[e-gold-list] Postings

[Michael Moore]

Reid is correct.  This is a discussion board relating to the gold economy.

Notwithstanding the efficacy of the product,   the posting I made
was off subject and not related to gold, e-gold or the gold economy.

My enthusiasm got the better of me.   I hope my sincere apologies to any I
may have offended,  including Angela-  a very fine person,  are acceptable

Kind regards,

Michael Moore
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[e-gold-list] Re: Credit of the state; mutual credit of people

[CCS]

It is a good thing that an understanding of money (or derivative
markets) is not necessary for trading e-gold.

> The government does have something that it can redeam the IOUs 
> for.  They redeam it for more IOUs which are valuable because I 
> can go to my neighborhood grocery store and buy food to eat.

That is not redemption.
 
> In the world of money, "Redeam" and "Trade" have the same meaning. 

No, they are not.  Redeem means to fulfill the contract (in the 
promissory note).

> Consider this example, you have an ounce of e-gold in your 
> account.  Can you redeam it? 

Yes.  The current redemption pledge for e-gold is that 1 ounce of 
it is good for 1/400 of delivery of a 400 ounce bar.  If they will 
keep that pledge then you can redeem an ounce of e-gold.

> No, but you can trade it to GoldFinger Coin for an ounce of 
> physical metal.

And the only reason GoldFinger will continue to do that is the
expectation that the redemption pledge will be honored.  If it
ever appears that that pledge will not be honored no one will
trade anything for an ounce of e-gold any longer. 

CCS

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[e-gold-list] Re: funding E-Gold

[Ann Smith]

JP and "ALL"
Now that's the kind of impart a person can sink their teeth into!!! 
It has taken me about 6 months, but finallySOMETHING I CAN SINK MY
TEETH INTO.   JP you are a fortunate man..to be so highly thought and
spoken of in your world.And congrats on the wedding
Thank you for telling me about "coconutgold"be talking with you
when I recover the money being held by FlatRateGold's bank, (which I am
really hoping is not gone for good), or get some more
HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE.
ANN SMITH

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[e-gold-list] Re: Credit of the state; mutual credit of people

[Khurram Khan]

>

>A citation by Greco, of E. C. Riegel, 1944: “That the Government can

>issue money for the people, is an utter fallacy.” 

>  That is, we lack any explanation of how a central authority -- being

>neither the producer of commodities, nor having anything of value with

>which to redeem the currency it issues -- might come to issue and 

>redeem money."

>

   The government does have something that it can redeam the IOUs for.  They redeam it 
for more IOUs which are valuable because I can go to my neighborhood grocery store and 
buy food to eat.

   In the world of money, "Redeam" and "Trade" have the same meaning.  You can redeam 
your money for something such as Gold, Silver, Platinum, Bread, Clothes, a House, 
etc.. or you can trade for the same thing.

   Consider this example, you have an ounce of e-gold in your account.  Can you redeam 
it? No, but you can trade it to GoldFinger Coin for an ounce of physical metal.

 Khurram Khan

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[e-gold-list] RE: Visa Card

[B Ray]

Posts about credit cards are welcome so long as they are related to the
topic of e-gold.  The post you reference most definitely did not fall into
this category.

 - Reid -

a.k.a. owner-e-gold-list
(who is capable of selective moderation if sufficiently provoked)

--Original Message--
From: "PR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: January 2, 2001 12:04:41 AM GMT
Subject: [e-gold-list] RE: Visa Card

Posts about credit cards are welcome so long as they are related to the topic of 
e-gold.  The post you reference most definitely did not fall into this category.

 - Reid -
a.k.a. owner-e-gold-list
(who is capable of selective moderation if sufficiently provoked)

I sincerely apologize for the post.  

That being said what about the post promoting the cards asking us to sign up and give 
the referer credit so they can get paid?
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[e-gold-list] RE: Visa Card

[B Ray]

--Original Message--
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Sent: January 1, 2001 9:36:11 PM GMT
Subject: RE: [e-gold-list] RE: Visa Card

Sovereigns, and there are a few of them around, I always thought were understanding 
and far seeing people.  Suprising to see the colours of one that apparently is not.  I 
wonder now is this a typical example of what a sovereign is?

Could or Would someone please define for me exactly what a Sovereign is, and how one 
becomes one?
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[e-gold-list] RE: Freedoms

[Reid Jackson]

B Ray said on Monday, January 01, 2001 4:48 PM:

> Just thought some might be interested.
> Boyd
>
> >From the February 1999 Idaho Observer:
>

[...]


Lest Michael feel unfairly singled out...

I'm sure that there are some readers who are interested; however, posts to
e-gold-list should be both interesting and *on-topic*.

 - Reid -

a.k.a. owner-e-gold-list


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[e-gold-list] RE: Visa Card

[PR]

B Ray said on Monday, January 01, 2001 12:15 PM:

> I am somewhat puzzled by the promotion of a CC by some who are
> stauch supporters of e-gold, an asset back by a real commodity as
> a means of exchange.  Is not, as stated in an earlier post a
> credit card just another way of creating money out of thin air by
> using the debt concept?  How will we win the war if we detour off
> our objective by  promoting something that has and does cause so
> much grief to MM and others?

Posts about credit cards are welcome so long as they are related to the
topic of e-gold.  The post you reference most definitely did not fall into
this category.

 - Reid -

a.k.a. owner-e-gold-list
(who is capable of selective moderation if sufficiently provoked)


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[e-gold-list] Call For Presentations - EFCE 2001 - 22-23 June

[R. A. Hettinga]

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Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 12:52:18 -0400 (AST)
From: Ian Grigg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Call For Presentations - EFCE 2001 - 22-23 June
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 The  Second
  Edinburgh
Financial Cryptography
Engineering Conference


   22-23 June, 2001

  The Signet Library
  Parliament  Square
  Edinburgh, Scotland


 C  A  L  L F  O  R  P  R  E  S  E  N  T  A  T  I  O  N  S



Edinburgh is again host to the international *engineering* conference
on Financial Cryptography.  Individuals and companies active in the
field are invited to present and especially to demonstrate Running
Code that pushes forward the "state of the art".


STATEMENT OF INTENT

  "The study of money, above all other fields in economics,
  is one in which complexity is used to disguise truth or
  to evade truth, not to reveal it."
 -- John Kenneth Galbraith,
Money: Whence it came, where it went - 1975, p15

This is a technical, practical meet.  Presentations of demonstrable
technology in the field of Financial Cryptography are invited.  As this
is a practical conference, we are hoping to accept every demonstrator.


THE VENUE

Our Venue is the Upper Library, within the Signet Library, which is a
listed building housing the Society of Writers to Her Majesty's Signet.
This exclusive conference venue is located in the centre of Edinburgh,
within the Royal Mile.


ADMINISTRATION

Included in the conference admission will be breakfast, lunch and
tea & coffee breaks.  Also included will be the conference dinner
in a local Edinburgh establishment.

The conference administration will block-book a convenient hotel
in the centre of town.  Details to be advised.


NEXT STEPS FOR PRESENTERS

1. Save the dates 22/23 June, Friday and Saturday on your calendar.

   It is good to plan on a few extra days, and especially, leaving on
   the day after, Sunday, will help to get the best fares.

2. Prepare your presentation.  Check the
   http://www.efce.net/programme.html">evolving programme.
   Propose your presentation by mailing the Programme Chair,
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"> Ian Grigg .

3. Book passage to Edinburgh. Don't forget to stay a few days on either
   side to see the sights.  Check the site for Locatives and Logistics.

4. Work on your presentation.  Remember, the main rule is that you
   demo working code.

5. Get your budget approved / allocated / applied for.  Whilst a
   commercial conference, accepted presenters will pay a deeply
   discounted fee, to be announced in a forthcoming release.  For
   planning purposes, 200 GBP (approximately 300 dollars or 320
   euros) should cover presenter's admission; the hotel should be
   about 100 GBP ($150 or E160) per night.

   Also include travel and incidentals in your budget.

6. The call for delegates -- attendees who do not present -- will
   by published at a later date.  If there is someone in your
   organisation who needs to survey the state of the financially
   cryptographic art, they can attend as a delegate.  For planning
   purposes, 500 GBP ($750 or E800) should cover the delegate's
   admission.

7. If you think the conference can benefit your organisation,
   consider sponsoring.  Contact the Sponsorship Chair
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"> Rachel Willmer 
   for more details.

8. Keep an eye on the http://www.efce.net/"> conference web site 
   for evolving details.


EFCE2000 COMMITTEE

Fearghas McKay  General Chair<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Ian Grigg   Programme Chair  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Rachel Willmer  Press and Sponsorship Chair  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


SPONSORSHIP

EFCE is supported by these companies active in Financial Cryptography:

   * Intertrader Ltd, an Edinburgh-based e-payments middleware and
 applications company.
 http://www.intertrader.com/

   * Systemics Inc, a builder of financial cryptography applications.
 http://www.systemics.com/

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experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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[e-gold-list] Freedoms

[B Ray]

Just thought some might be interested.
Boyd

>From the February 1999 Idaho Observer:



by T. Allen Hoover


These laws violate Section 7 of Public Law

93-579 (Privacy Act of 1974): 

(a)(1) It shall be unlawful for any Federal, State or local government agency to deny 
to any individual any right, benefit or privilege provided by law becauseof such 
individual's refusal to disclose his social security account number.

National Identification Cards are control tools in totalitarian police states. Our 
laws, supposedly to find deadbeat dads, create a defacto National ID with this law. 
Will other freedom-restricting laws soon follow?

Like roadblocks to check child car seats, or suspected failure to use seatbelts as 
probable cause to effect a car stop (and a search)?

As Mark Twain said, The last refuge of a scoundrel is the children.


Ridiculing those who question our seduction into a police state is Politically Correct 
-- a phrase coined not by the liberal left, but by the late Chairman Mao Tse Tung of 
Communist China, whose tradition of executing political dissidents continues and whose 
money influences our elections.

There is no law requiring one to obtain a SSN, so why has the legislature passed 
statutes demanding them? Why are children, at birth, forced to have a SSN to be an 
exemption on income taxes? Elsewhere, police have, despite other ID's, arrested people 
who refuse to give a SSN upon demand. Before boarding an airplane a Government Issued 
Photo ID is demanded, even though this is not law, merely an FAA recommendation. You 
cannot travel without papers.

After WWII, Germans were asked how they had let it all happen, they answered, We all 
had jobs and the trains ran on time.


Tacitus, the Roman General, from whence we get the word 'Tactics,' once said that, The 
corruption of a society can be measured by the number of its laws.

My old SSN card states "For Social Security and Tax purposes-Not for Identification."


Mr. Hoover is a Boise-area businessman who specializes in preparedness supplies. He is 
also an "armorer" who has been supplying the police and the public with body armor for 
several years.

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P.O. Box 1353
Rathdrum, Idaho 83858-1353
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[e-gold-list] RE: Visa Card

[markab23]

People seem to get confused between the tools and the intention of the user or 
promoter.I am  not a particular proponent of the  'credit institution' but 
like many people do possess a credit card.  I pay it out each month and so 
incur no interest.  I use it as a tool. I am not bound, 'because I have a 
credit card, to the NWO.  I simply use the tools provided to my advantage.  I 
do not deny the tools as 'bad' because the system is blatently designed to 
induce slavery through economic dependence.

Tools are tools are tools.

I use egold as well.  another tool.  I use it however not for transactional 
exchange so much as for investment.  I have been looking at Mr Cloose?  is it?
 sorry if i got the name wrong.  but his concept of an annuity is brilliant!


And another thing.

people like Angela who 'professes' to be a high and mighty 'sovereign',  yet 
make snide personal attacks on people needs to learn the lesson that this is 
not the way to promote what you believe in but only serves to make people 
think that is what you do.

Sovereigns, and there are a few of them around, I always thought were 
understanding and far seeing people.  Suprising to see the colours of one that 
apparently is not.  I wonder now is this a typical example of what a sovereign 
is?


egold needs to live side by side with the current credit institution.  You 
cannot just deny what already exists especially if you want to influence it in 
any way.  You just become considered an odd ball and not taken seriously  and 
I believe that we all want egold to be taken seriously by the commercial 
community

I for one will be taking up Mr Moores offer.  I am not on a mission to change 
the world. i was just offered another useful tool to use. And I took the time 
to read the web site and not dismiss it out of hande due some fixed ideas I 
had.   and I will continue to use egold of course.   and I will continue to 
purchase from Gold Today as well.

Happy New Year !

Chuck (Chucky)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>--Original Message--
>From: "Michael Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: e-gold Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: January 1, 2001 12:14:14 PM GMT
>Subject: [e-gold-list] Visa Card
>
>
>Some information about the Free Visa Card is in order.
>
>I am somewhat puzzled by the promotion of a CC by some who are stauch 
supporters of e-gold, an asset back by a real commodity as a means of 
exchange.  Is not, as stated in an earlier post a credit card just another way 
of creating money out of thin
>air by using the debt concept?  How will we win the war if we detour off our 
objective by  promoting something that has and does cause so much grief to MM 
and others?
>Boyd Pate
>Play for fun or for Real, Win Gold
>http://www.thegoldcasino.com/win.cgi?3202416
>
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[e-gold-list] Credit of the state; mutual credit of people

[Cal Schindel]

Dale Pond made a very good post re the 5th plank of the Communist
Manifesto. The centralization of power in the hands of a few is
clearly tied to the creation of money. In order to recapture freedom
we have to learn how to create and control a decentralized system.

Few writers can offer better understanding of what a money system is
and who should really create money than Thomas Greco. His book is
online and free. A newer version is near printing stage and I for one
will definitely buy a copy. These lines are from the online version:

  

If you have studied money at all you already know that all paper
currencies are IOUs. But the IOU has a very important and much ignored
feature which was observed by Greco. 

Greco: “. . .one must first recognize this essential fact, that [paper]
money has a beginning and an ending; it is created and it is
extinguished.” 

“The money issued may be thought of as an IOU which the buyer uses to
pay for the goods and services he bought. That IOU might be passed 
along from hand-to-hand as each recipient in turn uses it to pay for
his/her own purchase.”

“Eventually, it must come back to the originator of the IOU who redeems
it by selling something of value.” 

“As an example, The originator, Mr. Able, buys something of value from
Mr. Baker. He gives Mr. Baker his IOU Baker then uses the IOU to buy
something from Mr. Cook, who, in turn uses it to buy something from Ms.
Drew. The IOU may continue to change hands any number of times as 
others use it to buy and sell, but eventually, it must return to Mr.
Able. At that point, Able has fulfilled his commitment to redeem the
money he issued (the IOU).” 

And this from J Walter Plinge of France that adds to the above:

"So, keeping to the fundamentals, we can deduce that any legitimate 
paper money which can be called “commodity backed” is issued as an IOU
to the producer of real goods or commodities and that money must 
return to the issuer for payment with something of equivalent value.
That brings us to the logical conclusion. . .

A citation by Greco, of E. C. Riegel, 1944: “That the Government can
issue money for the people, is an utter fallacy.” 
  That is, we lack any explanation of how a central authority -- being
neither the producer of commodities, nor having anything of value with
which to redeem the currency it issues -- might come to issue and 
redeem money."

 end of Plinge material 

>From Cal: I mostly lurk on the egold list as I regard egold as one
approach to building a decentralized world currency. I personally do
not regard gold as the only possibility. Understanding and implementing
a mutual credit system is another possibility.

I have a word document of eight pages which will cause some of you to
rethink your positions on money in general which I will send to any
request. Sends at 60 Kb. Send an email to calsch(at)montana.com Called
"Theoretical on Nature of Money"

Cal

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[e-gold-list] EFCE

[Bob]

Quote from The Second Edinburgh Financial Cryptography 
Engineering Conference home page:

"The study of money, above all other fields in economics,
 is one in which complexity is used to disguise truth or
 to evade truth, not to reveal it."
 -- John Kenneth Galbraith,
 Money: Whence it came, where it went - 1975, p15

http://www.efce.net/index.html

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[e-gold-list] RE: Visa Card

[Dale Pond]

B Ray wrote:

>
> I am somewhat puzzled by the promotion of a CC by some who are stauch supporters of 
>e-gold, an asset back by a real commodity as a means of exchange.  Is not, as stated 
>in an earlier post a credit card just another way of creating money out of thin air 
>by using the debt concept?  How will we win the war if we detour off our objective by 
> promoting something that has and does cause so much grief to MM and others?

I concur. Maybe the lure of dollars overshadows other concerns? Was it Kruschev (sp?) 
who said circa 1947 communism would be implemented in America by Americans through 
their love of money? And it would be the grandchildren of those he spoke to that would 
willing raise the socialist flag in America?

The 5th plank of the Communist Manifesto:

 5. "Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank 
with state capital and an exclusive monopoly."

More comments on the Communist Manifesto can be seen here:

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/7006/com-man.html

The world Communist movement has posted their ostentatious intents here:

http://www.anu.edu.au/polsci/marx/classics/manifesto.html

By the way the "State" is most likely the privately controlled "United States of 
America", a subset or "agency" of the original government called "United States". You 
can read about this incredible fraud here:

http://www.LawResearch-Registry.org/tyranny.htm

If one promotes or encourages credit are they promoting communism? America was founded 
in part on the principle of property ("rights" are property). Communism does not 
recognize property (property includes your "rights"). Credit is not based on property 
but upon commerical contracts. Hard asset based currencies are about property 
including the right to own and control property. Does this indicate there is a
conflict looming on the horizon? Or are we in it already?

--
Regards,
Dale Pond
Delta Spectrum Research
http://www.SVPvril.com
Sympathetic Vibratory Physics
Sacred Science - Sacred Life
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[e-gold-list] ATM Card

[Albert]

I would like to bring up an old discussion again.

Not so long ago many discussed the subject ATM Card.
Because with an ATM Card, E-Gold can fund your bank account through your card number.

Some advertise the card for 30 USD others for 300 USD.

My question is, what is the meaning of ATM.
As I am from Holland we do not have a bank (?) called like that.

But I saw in Indonesia ATM money machine (to withdraw money from your own bank 
account).
For what I understood is that they get the card when they open an account (no extra 
costs).

The call it Automatic Teller Machine. Because I do  business in Indonesia and I do not 
want my Big Brother in Holland to find out that I have a E-Gold account. I am thinking 
about opening an account in Indonesia.

Thanks for the help.


About buying all kinds of things from a web-site shop with E-gold.
Is that not a perfect oppertunity for Big Brother (IRS) to find out you have an E-Gold 
account?
As the IRS asks the shop owner to have a look in to its administration??
Or am I Missing something.

Thanks,

albert.




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[e-gold-list] RE: Visa Card

[B Ray]

--Original Message--
From: "Michael Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: e-gold Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: January 1, 2001 12:14:14 PM GMT
Subject: [e-gold-list] Visa Card


Some information about the Free Visa Card is in order.

I am somewhat puzzled by the promotion of a CC by some who are stauch supporters of 
e-gold, an asset back by a real commodity as a means of exchange.  Is not, as stated 
in an earlier post a credit card just another way of creating money out of thin air by 
using the debt concept?  How will we win the war if we detour off our objective by  
promoting something that has and does cause so much grief to MM and others?
Boyd Pate
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[e-gold-list] Visa Card

[Michael Moore]

Some information about the Free Visa Card is in order.

The Advisory Board   to www.VisaRebate.com  includes the following
distinguished people.

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Mr. Wead has researched, written, and guest lectured for the Network
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sold over 3 million copies in 15 languages. He has been quoted in Time,
Newsweek, US News, The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, and THE New
York Times and has appeared as a guest with Dan Rather on The CBS Evening
News. Mr. Wead serves as an industry spokesperson and government relations'
resource. Mr. Wead served as a Special Assistant to the President in the
senior Bush White House, and played an integral role in George W. Bush's
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the United States. Mr. Wead brings a renowned industry and governmental
voice to VisaRebates.com. In 1979, along with Pat Boone, Boston Archbishop
Bernard, and Cardinal Law, he co-founded Mercy Corps International, which
has distributed over $73 million worth of medicines and famine relief.

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Mr. Smiley retired from the US Air Force after 24 years to pursue business
interests after having been selected as Chief Master Sergeant. This position
represents the US Air force's highest administrative position for
non-commissioned officers.

Neil Bush
Mr. Bush is the Chairman and CEO of Ignite!, an education-literacy company
formed to deliver interactive education over the Internet using innovative
new technologies developed by Ignite!. This project is being hailed by some
as the most practical and innovative use of the Internet to date. Mr. Bush
is also the Chairman of Interlink, an international cable communications
company. Mr. Bush is son of the 41st President of the United States George
Bush, and the brother of George W. Bush, 43rd President-elect of the United
States.

Jonathan W. Brodeur
Mr. Brodeur has been a director of Egghead.com since August 1997 and has
served as their Chief Marketing Officer since February 1998. Since July
1995, Mr. Brodeur has served as a director and President of Surplus Direct.
>From June 1993 to July 1995, Mr. Brodeur was the Chief Operating/Operations
Improvement Officer for Connecticut Spring and Stamping, a high-precision
manufacturing company. Mr. Brodeur served as Senior Manager at KPMG Peat
Marwick LLP's National Consulting Practice from August 1988 to June 1993.

Some further information about VisaRebate.
VisaRebates.com is an internet solution and marketing company. We deliver a
critical ingredient to the e-commerce community-new and loyal customers. The
high cost of acquiring each new customer and the challenge of earning their
repeat business has most online companies chasing elusive profits.
VisaRebates.com is changing that picture. We deliver more than "sticky
customers". We deliver profits from the other 90+% of purchases that these
customers do OFF-LINE. Harnessing the powerful customer incentive of Network
BrokerageT (Patent Pending), we connect high margin off-line businesses to
our consumer force. These local merchants are happy to share their profits
from new customers as well as promote the growth of the customer community.
We bring them more profits and more new customers, the repeat business from
these more loyal customers, and a new source of residual income from tapping
into the 90+% of their existing customer's purchases that are repeated month
after month off-line. We call it the "click & mortar" business.

We host a virtual community of three economic segments: buyers, sellers
(both on and off line Merchants), and Agents who promote the growth and
process. The VisaRebates.com core technology architecture provides a private
label Internet Bridge to the "Brick & Mortar" main street market place
delivering a unique expansion of an Internet web site's commercial
opportunity and product line offering. Linked directly or through a
www.xyzCompanyMall.com portal, VisaRebates provides a seamless website
extension for Internet leaders desiring to expand their customer offerings
without adding additional risk or demands to their technology or operational
infrastructure.

Redistributing the Marketing Dollars

Through VisaRebates.com, the community of consumers and suppliers are allied
through the unique revenue sharing structure of Network BrokerageT. The
Merchant's traditional marketing dollar is redistributed to provide both
Agent's and customers a rebate or commission incentive to remain loyal and
expand through referral of both new consumers and merchants.

Today's market globalization and rapid technology growth has created a need
to develop new methods of gaining and maintaining customer loyalty. As
finding the lowest price is getting easier with Internet searches, something
other than price will determine where people shop. This unique model spans
both on-line and off