[e-gold-list] Re: exchange?

2001-02-17 Thread SnowDog

 Are you volunteering.  You will need a 400 oz gold bar to be a combio for
 goldmoney however

No you don't! 

You just need some gold-grams.

Craig



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[e-gold-list] RE: inquiring minds

2001-02-17 Thread LaMarr Dell



Hi, would some one please MAKE SURE that the person who uses the pseudonym
"Viking Coder" takes a look at this web url, below ?

This "Coder" person (who won't reveal identity) makes quick judgements as
to whether (or not) a site is "legal" .. or, in "its" (don't know if "he"
or "she") opinion is a SCAM ... here's what "Viking" said:

quote:
Game sites are different than scam sites. I am fully supportive of
gambling sites, as long as they sell it as gambling. Once they begin to
call it HYIP (High Yield Investment Program) or any form of "investment
opportunity", it becomes a scam. It is a scam because they claim to
guarantee the payouts. Have you ever been to a legitimate casino that
guarantees a significant payout on every bet made?
end quote

Now, just to set the record straight, please, ALL of you (but especially
"Viking Coder") go to this url and check out the CLAIM as to what is
offered .

And, next time (before you drag out the hangman for a midnight stint)
check out YOUR facts before YOU go ranting and raving about who YOU don't
want using your precious e-gold.

http://costagold.com/members/index.htm

**

I find that "Costa" is VERY "up front" with information about how THEY
work and what one may expect from them .. the fact that I don't know the
owners by name doesn't bother me one bit.  I don't know the owners of even
one tenth of the stores that I "shop" here in town.

Most folks, these days, don't bother to do a lot of research into things
so it's easy to fall into the trap of repeating the last witty sound that
we heard.  THAT is the reason that I'm posting the Costa site url .. so
that ALL of you can take just TWO MINUTES and see, for yourself, the truth
as to WHAT "Costa" is all about ...

All of us are different. Different tastes in food and different tastes in
"entertainment".  Some of you surf the porn sites for "entertainment",
some of you surf the "chat rooms" for entertainment .. some of us play the
"game" sites.  Perhaps YOU would NOT put YOUR money into "Costa" .. but,
just because YOU don't like it, should I be cut off from it also?

Where does it all end?  Who gets the FINAL say about WHICH sites stay on
the inet and which get tossed out? In the end, doing it THIS way, the inet
will have a handful of sites for you to go to and they MAY not touch on
YOUR interests at all ... personally, I DO NOT like the "hangman" justice
of "Viking Coder" and hope that "it" NEVER gets in a position to have ANY
say over who "goes" and who "stays".

Personally, I've got several thousand tied up in this "frozen asset" GOD
play of OMNIPAY/EGOLD/G$SR, whoever, .. and MY payout is being held up by
"them", whoever .. yes, I'm a "winner", but "they" have MY PAYDAY funds.

I have seen the documents (posted on the Costa site) that Costa sent to
e-gold as "proof of identity" .. and I'M satisfied ... If egold would
release the funds to the LAWYER that presented those documents I could get
paid ..

Who, really NEEDS "satisfaction" at this point?  Costa, is an agent/owner.
 E-gold, is an agent.  The "escrow" folks, are agents.  Isn't it the
Ltd./players of the Costa game ?

We had some postings here as to why e-gold uses an offshore IBC (to
seperate the "real people" from the "business"), doesn't this apply to
Costa just as well ?  Why can't the lawyer for the COMPANY get the funds?
E-gold, whoever, wants the PEOPLE also, WHY ?

 We (the players) were satisfied with our agent, Costa, enough to buy
tickets to the game .. and we TRUST OUR AGENT, Costa, to make the payouts.
 Once distribution of the funds is completed we will find that MOST of it
goes to the "players", but some of it stays with Costa it's right
there on the site folks, the WHOLE explaination is there.

Now, again, back to WHOMEVER is making this decision to HOLD the funds
that belong to others, what is your TRUE agenda? WHY aren't YOU satisfied
when the rightful owner is ?  How much do you plan to KEEP FOR YOURSELF in
"FEES" ?  Do you see this as an OPPORTUNITY FOR INCOME for YOURSELF ? Do
you feel that you can do this, over and over, and have ANOTHER SOURCE OF
INCOME for the e-gold/GSR/OP kitty ?  Doesn't your collective conscience
bother you, even a LITTLE bit, for the THOUSANDS of Costa winners that are
being made to wait for their "paydays" ?  Do you feel that you can "KILL"
Costa by holding these funds and making the players mad at COSTA (why
would we get mad at THEM for something YOU are doing)? Do you feel that by
stopping the flow at Costa the players will feel that something is "wrong"
with the game and NOT go back to it (should they start up again) ?

Truthfully, e-gold, aren't you REALLY trying to "kill" the Costa game ..?
Don't you have enough backbone to come out from behind YOUR veil of
secrecy and make a statement about your TRUE intentions or are you going
to CONTINUE your SNEAKY, BACK ALLEY type of political justice?  Playing
GOD over OTHER folks 

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[e-gold-list] RE: inquiring minds

2001-02-17 Thread Jeff Fitzmyers

LaMarr Dell wrote:

 This "Coder" person (who won't reveal identity) makes quick judgments as
 to whether (or not) a site is "legal"

A dead worm could figure out if Costa is legal within a minute. Hello?!

 I find that "Costa" is VERY "up front" with information about how THEY
 work and what one may expect from them .. the fact that I don't know the
 owners by name doesn't bother me one bit.

Then why do you care who VC is?
Why do you defend 'someone' that just stole 1,000,000?

 Most folks, these days, don't bother to do a lot of research into things
 so it's easy to fall into the trap of repeating the last witty sound that
 we heard.

Your the best!

 THAT is the reason that I'm posting the Costa site url .. so
 that ALL of you can take just TWO MINUTES and see, for yourself, the truth
 as to WHAT "Costa" is all about ...

Truth: Give us all your money :) Thanks buddy!

 some of us play the "game" sites.

If it was JUST a game no one would really care about the outcome.

 Personally, I've got several thousand tied up in this "frozen asset" GOD
 play of OMNIPAY/EGOLD/G$SR, whoever, .. and MY payout is being held up by
 "them", whoever .. yes, I'm a "winner", but "they" have MY PAYDAY funds.

That's right, blame someone else. YOU are the one who gave your money to a
scam that broke their own rules. OmniPay and e-gold have followed their rules.

 I have seen the documents (posted on the Costa site) that Costa sent to
 e-gold as "proof of identity" .. and I'M satisfied

How can you prove that those documents were sent?

 ... If egold would
 release the funds to the LAWYER that presented those documents I could get
 paid ..

I'm a lawyer (trust me, I have a fancy web site that says so ;) if I send some
documents can I get the gold?

 We (the players) were satisfied with our agent, Costa,

Very logical. Translation: I am satisfied you stole my money, thank you.

 Now, again, back to WHOMEVER is making this decision to HOLD the funds
 that belong to others, what is your TRUE agenda?

Maybe to run a business and follow their posted User Agreement. Pretty simple
really.

You got scammed, we all do (my running total is about 15,000 annoying
dollars), just learn from it :) If you ever do get any money back it will be
because Omnipay had a pretty good user agreement that they are sticking to.
And hear you are yelling at them, tsk, tsk. Send them some flowers and movie
tickets and thank them for doing the best they can.





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[e-gold-list] Re: DigiGold's AUG vs. the ECB's EUR

2001-02-17 Thread Bob

Claude Cormier wrote:
 
 On 16 Feb 2001, at 20:47, Bob wrote:
 
  I don't know if this is what you had in mind, but. If somebody sends
  you a *bearer* payment by email, you can print this out and put it
  in your pocket. There's the disadvantage of having to copy the
  characters by hand again into a file or email, or OCR copying.
 
 Bob, How this can work?
 
 I don't know everything aboit Digigold but it seems to me that you
 end up with two copies the bearer payment. 

Yes. You can make a bunch of copies on paper, floppies, etc.
and put them places for safe keeping. WebFunds has provisions
for backing up your contracts on your HD, too. Money in WebFunds 
being a contract. A safe place is different for different people.

If somebody got a copy of your bearer payment, and made a deposit
with it in their WebFunds wallet, and "Updated" their copy with
the server, then you would have lost your cash (bearer payment).

With WebFunds you also have the option of making a direct payment
to a specific account.

Different people have different needs. Or their needs can change
from time to time.

Digital gold is to the
 net what dollars bills are to your wallet!  They are very handy as
 you can transert them without the interference of a third party. On
 the other hand, you can also lose them.  My biggest worry is the
 need for backing and your digital certificate and make sure you can
 recover from a crash.
 
 Definitively not for all users.

Right. It's for those who are not afraid of being responsible for
their own money actions.

Bob

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[e-gold-list] RE: inquiring minds

2001-02-17 Thread SnowDog

 This site, that involves 'GAMING'; does it have a license from any
 jurisdiction?  If it had no license, does it have a fixed place of
business?

Also, this idea that Costa Gold is a GAME just started a couple of weeks ago
when Stock Generation won their case against the SEC, where the judge ruled
that as long as the site indicated that it was a GAME then the charges
against Stock Generation would not apply.

Costa Gold has not been advertised as a GAME for very long. I doubt if all
the people that sent money to them thought that it was a game.

Craig



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[e-gold-list] RE: inquiring minds

2001-02-17 Thread gary


- Original Message -
From: "Jeff Fitzmyers" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 You got scammed, we all do (my running total is about 15,000 annoying
 dollars), just learn from it :) If you ever do get any money back it
will be
 because Omnipay had a pretty good user agreement that they are
sticking to.
 And hear you are yelling at them, tsk, tsk. Send them some flowers and
movie
 tickets and thank them for doing the best they can.

Just one question, assuming that CG doesn't ever supply enough of
whatever Omnipay wants, how will anyone ever get their money back?

Looks to me as if it doesn't matter a bit whether Costa takes it out and
runs off with it, as is being implied without any evidence of that
actually being the case, or Omnipay just keeps it forever.

Please don't try to make anyone think that Omnipay/e-gold are concerned
about protecting those who put that money in the CG account, they are
only concern about protecting themselves from being sued for giving it
to the wrong person.

I don't blame Omnipay for putting a stop on the transfer when they
received the conflicting instructions for the transfer but, I believe
they are well aware now that it is the account owners who are requesting
the release of the funds.

Perhaps, if Omnipay where to release the funds, Costa MIGHT run off with
it and they might NOT, at least there would be SOME chance that those
who paid in could get something back.  As it stands now, those who paid
in are definately NOT getting their money back.

Gary


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[e-gold-list] RE: inquiring minds

2001-02-17 Thread Dagny Taggart

What business do you do?



--- Viking Coder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 LaMarr Dell wrote
  This "Coder" person (who won't reveal identity)
 makes quick judgements as
  to whether (or not) a site is "legal" .. or, in
 "its" (don't know if "he"
  or "she") opinion is a SCAM ... here's what
 "Viking" said:
  
 
 This is the second time I've posted this spiel.
 
 I hide (I wish I could express sarcasm in plaintext)
 behind the psudeonym
 "Viking Coder" because I am being truthful. I could
 lie and call myself
 "Melissa Jackson" or "Brent Spencer" or "John Jacob
 Jingleheimer Smit"
 because that name is my name too. How would you know
 the difference? Once
 you have done business with me, you will learn my
 'secret identity'.
 
 Viking Coder
 (very proud of my psuedoANOnymITY)
 
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[e-gold-list] RE: inquiring minds

2001-02-17 Thread Viking Coder

David Hillary wrote
 If it costs 1% p.a. for metal storeage then how come goldmoney stores it
 for 0.5% p.a.?
 

I suspect they are going to be subsidizing their storage costs with funds
received from their transaction fees. Their transaction fee is capped at 1
gg (their term for an AUG). This means that their transaction fees are
potentially much larger than e-gold's.

1% capped at 50 US cents vs. 0.1% capped at 1 gg (currently US$8.30)

 I suspect that e-gold will reduce its agio eventually.

Probably not, unless they change their transaction fee structure.

Viking Coder

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[e-gold-list] Re: exchange?

2001-02-17 Thread Sidd

Find another market maker who has plenty to sell maybe even has a
gold bar or two and negotiate a good price for what you want.  Find
people you can trust, who also want gg and pool your money to get
$5000 and buy some gg for all of you.

Sidd.


Will you enlighten us on how to get them without
spending either $ 5000 or byuing a 400 oz bar from our
spare
milk money?

--- SnowDog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Are you volunteering.  You will need a 400 oz gold
 bar to be a combio for
  goldmoney however

 No you don't!

 You just need some gold-grams.

 Craig



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[e-gold-list] now that would be clever..

2001-02-17 Thread jpm

Jay!

http://use.e-gold.com  right?  marvellous!

imagine if THIS worked:

http://241164.e-gold.com
http://400400.e-gold.com

etc

took you directly to your own account's log in page!

second best would be http://use.e-gold.com/400400



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[e-gold-list] Re: there you go Michael Moore!

2001-02-17 Thread Khurram Khan





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What I was trying to say was that e-gold seems to attract a larger

proportion of  cc fraud than would otherwise occur.





The reason for this is quite simple acutally.  The best thing to buy with stolen money 
is more money.

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[e-gold-list] Captain Euro

2001-02-17 Thread Bob

Captain Euro raises support for the EU:
http://www.captain-euro.com/

And the site is in English?

Bob

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