[e-gold-list] RE: FW: Re: Re osgold.com
Saw this on another list -- for what it's worth.. Glimpse of the future maybe? ""OSGold -- I got paid ! Posted by: Cracker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 21 Mar 2001 at 8:35:28 PM Man, this OSGold is the coolest. Refferals kickass, I'm going to retire off what I'm making, this is the real thing!! Get in now, and take home tons of GOLD. I hear from a inside source if you have a low enough acct number that you will get first shot at any NEW hyip programs that OS will be running soon (as a reward for being one of the first) BEFORE the programs go public. Yah.. COUNT ME IN""" From: "Sidd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [e-gold-list] RE: FW: Re: Re osgold.com Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:40:12 +1200 Hi David, - Original Message - From: "David Reed" [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The legal requirements are on the site at http://www.osgold.com/services/terms.html) Yes, these tell me how *I* must behave, but I already trust myself! It gives me absolutely no idea how *you* will care for *my* money. A direct question: you say you have 2500 users already, where are the gold reserves that back their deposits? Can you give us evidence? (You write this as if it is included in the site description, but it is actually in the coming soon category where we discuss the future services which will be available. The gold you put into the OSGold site will remain as gold, and the goldbank is another site alltogether.) Ok, so presumably the existing site is the one where users store gold. Again, where is the gold and in what form is the gold? security is done by HEN Inc.??? (Just wondering, what is interesting about this?) Who the hell is HEN Inc? What is the point in mentioning it on the site without showing any credentials? My security is done by John who lives down the street from me... now would you send me your money please? You are basing a lot of trust issues on the fact that there is no contact information. With e-gold, the information is provided. Yet you may still wait a week or two to receive a reply from them. Actually, you may never receive a reply from them when asking questions about your account. In a little over 24 hours, our support team has answered/resolved over 500 inquiries and questions. We actually GUARANTEE a 24 hour turn around time for response to questions. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Cash Cards International
Hi: I will say we are impressed with Cash Cards International. They are signing up new Instant Anywhere accounts (with the ATM card) at a rapid rate, and some of our agents (MMs) are also benefiting with the exchanges. (I reported earlier the 350 accounts and $1.2 million inexchange with their first deal). And their REPs (Real-Time eCommerce Provider), who now number over 20,000 and growing, earn big commissions. On a conference call on Sunday, we had top producers from ten countries on the call. Ed Tam Sing, International Marketing Director, reported that selling as little as three accounts, could earn $1 million+ for a member (obviously that is not guaranteed, and in no way are we saying or implying that you will do that volume). Better yet, merchants are now interested in joining the program. Cash Cards has 700 merchants who expressed an interest in joining, and, many more will be coming on quickly. Another segment that works for Cash Cards and Standard Reserve is the payment of affiliates and/or payrolls for major companies. That is a win-win for everybody - we provide a way to pay easily and the employer/affialiator saves time and money. We are looking forward to some big numbers from Cash Cards International, and won't be surprised to see 1 million account holders at the rate they are going. Which is why we gave them an exclusive agreement for marketing the SR Instant Anywhere account to network marketing groups worldwide. Check them out at http://www.cashcards.net/?1009 Pretty soon, we will have a "World Wide Currency for the World Wide Web." George __ George Matyjewicz, President Standard Reserve Corp. -- Atlanta, GA World Wide Currency for the World Wide Web http://www.standardreserve.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] PECUNIX INCORPORATED Share Offer
Dear List Members Gocreative Ltd New Zealand are brokers of opportunity, we would makepromote to all e-gold market makers, and e-gold user on this list - PECUNIX INCORPORATED - The world's first serious competition to e-gold, a "100% Gold Backed Internet Currency". It has been fully researched, full legal structures based offshore in the Panama, and software and technology to deliver the world's best service. Deloitte Touche - Panama will act as Auditors and as Custodian for Pecunix Inc and Pecunix Venture Holdings Inc. -- PECUNIX is the provider of a 100% Gold Backed Internet Currency (GBIC) and payment solution, offering companies and individuals the abilityto make and receive payments electronically. PECUNIX's mission is to become the leading provider of Gold Backed Internet Currency (GBIC) services for all business-to-business, consumer-to-business and consumer-to-consumer transactions on the Internet. PECUNIX's "P-AUG" (One P-AUG has a value of one gram of gold) currency solution enables online merchants to accept secure payments from their customers on their web site, and allows "users" the ability to make secure person-to-person payments on the Internet. All payments made in "P-AUG" clear instantly. Payments can be settled instantly between globally remote parties. The payer cannot repudiate (reverse) a payment once payment is made. The system protects the parties' privacy and personal details by policy and law. The cost of transactions is very low. -- They also offer one of the world's first private 24-hour online Internet Share Trading Facilities to facilitate the sale of Shares between existing shareholders and new subscribers. It is called: Private Venture Capital Stock Exchange or PVCSE. The first share offering at this Stock Exchange is for PECUNIX Venture Holdings Inc which is offering THIRTEEN MILLION (13,000,000) Shares at US$0.50 per Share payable in full on application to raise between US$5,000,000.00 and US$6,500,000. PECUNIX Venture Holdings Inc will Negotiate the acquisition of 51% the Shares of PECUNIX INCORPORATED. The PVCSE Website has a FULL business plan, prospectus and an online presentation. I know the Directors personally; if you have any concerns you are welcome to e-mail me with questions. We hope you will seriously consider this exciting investment opportunity. There is a one level referral commission of 5% for brokers that wish to promote the offer. Regards Danny N. Mallinder Gocreative Ltd Click here: http://www.pvcse.com/id.cfm?ref=xep989 News: The Board has approved, in principle, the appointment of a further key Director on the Board. The gentleman concerned is an economist and policy analyst, lecturer to the business world, universities globally and to many governments, a lawyer, three-time Nobel Peace Prize nominee and an outstanding negotiator. Although this key appointment is yet to be finalised, we are very excited at the prospect. (from a notice to early investors) = Investment Opportunity Private Placement offer: PECUNIX Venture Holdings Inc is offering THIRTEEN MILLION (13,000,000) Shares at US$0.50 per Share payable infull on application to raise a total of US$6,500,000.00 The Company will contract to provide a 24-hour online Internet Share Trading Facility to facilitate the sale of Shares between existing shareholders and new subscribers. The Directors have identified the acquisition of 51% the Shares of PECUNIX INCORPORATED, a Panama based company as a potential Key Transaction. (see Appendix 3 - PANAMA - PRIVACY, PROTECTION AND PROFIT for more information about Panama) PECUNIX INCORPORATED is currently developing the software and business structure for a "100% Gold Backed Internet Currency" and intends to launch its web site facility in the second quarter of 2001. A full description of the business model, motivation and consolidated income statement for PECUNIX INCORPORATED can be found in "BUSINESS PLANFOR PECUNIX INCORPORATED" on a separate document. The Company intends to enter into the Key Transaction to acquire a 51% holding in the Shares of PECUNIX INCORPORATED, giving the Company a strong voting position in the future of PECUNIX INCORPORATED and the potential to earn substantial profit. A Prospectus and an Investment statement is available to download. Click here for full details: http://www.pvcse.com/id.cfm?ref=xep989 = Cheers! Graham Kelly CEO GoldNow Corporation http://www.GoldNow.St Phone/Fax +44 (0)709-233-7612 USA Phone/Fax +1(312)777-4270 Want a debit card linked to your e-gold account? Apply below! https://www.standardreserve.com/acct/instant_anywhere_application.asp?CID=10 https://www.e-gold.com/newacct/newaccount.asp?cid=103346 --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe
[e-gold-list] Re: PECUNIX INCORPORATED Share Offer
It is called: Private Venture Capital Stock Exchange or PVCSE. The first share offering at this Stock Exchange is for PECUNIX Venture Holdings Inc which is offering THIRTEEN MILLION (13,000,000) Shares at US$0.50 per Share payable in full on application to raise between US$5,000,000.00 and US$6,500,000. PECUNIX Venture Holdings Inc will Negotiate the acquisition of 51% the Shares of PECUNIX INCORPORATED. Why are they trying to raise 6.5 million dollars to build another Digital Currency, when E-Gold and GoldMoney did it for only a couple hundred thousand dollars? Craig --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] OSGOLD
I am a little sceptical of OSGOLD myself, mainly because of how I was introduced to it. I was doing a little gambling in a stupid game called Cash Over Time that supposedly pays a handsome return over 7 days, and naturally, after a few deposits to my acocunt, they ahve fallen over a week behind in payments... As they stopped paying, they mentioned that they were creating a new system called Osgold. They made it appear that the sponsors of the game were the founders of Osgold. Then they promised to catch up their payments into my new Osgold account, which they still have not. Besides, I don't see any way to get the gold out of Osgold once it is in there. They do mention that soon you will be able to transfer gold from Osgold back to egold, but of course I can't try that yet as they stil have not paid what they have owed. IN any event, I think that maybe these people are behind both things, and that the gamers have set this up as a way to pay the people playing the games without actually paying them anything. I saw a simillar scam a year or so ago with Big International, but that is another story. Fortunately, I was only playing around and lost only a few dollars, but I would be very careful about trusting these people with anything at this time. John !!!Our Offshore Website has been totally redesigned, and we now have web based banking, opening of accounts,deposits, and withdrawals! Go to: http://www.offshorearnings.com+)) --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: PECUNIX INCORPORATED Share Offer
Why are they trying to raise 6.5 million dollars to build another Digital Currency, when E-Gold and GoldMoney did it for only a couple hundred thousand dollars? Probably because they are trying the old maneuver of 'if a few hundred thousand dollar startup funds did this, then we should sweep the market with $6.5 million startup'. That was the one of the driving points behind the dot-com boom. They probably also don't want to wait the several years it took for e-gold to come into prominence. All these new gold-backed currencies are a signal that this is finally becoming something of a main-stream idea. Viking Coder Worth Two Cents? http://www.2cw.org/VikingCoder --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: PECUNIX INCORPORATED Share Offer
Viking Coder wrote: Probably because they are trying the old maneuver of 'if a few hundred thousand dollar startup funds did this, then we should sweep the market with $6.5 million startup'. That was the one of the driving points behind the dot-com boom. They probably also don't want to wait the several years it took for e-gold to come into prominence. They did however budget 1.2 mil for the first year advertising. If they spend it correctly they could be a boost for all gold based systems. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: PECUNIX INCORPORATED Share Offer
I seriously doubt that they did it for a couple hundred thousand. If they did, then no wonder about all the flaws. Maybe these people want to do it right? :-) Dagny Taggart Why are they trying to raise 6.5 million dollars to build another Digital Currency, when E-Gold and GoldMoney did it for only a couple hundred thousand dollars? Craig __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: PECUNIX INCORPORATED Share Offer
I seriously doubt that they did it for a couple hundred thousand. If they did, then no wonder about all the flaws. Maybe these people want to do it right? :-) Seriously... What flaws does e-gold have? Craig --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: e-Lottery's New Game
So you think that I am What? )(^(^^(^^ Sorry!!! I just got back from a great dinner that will make me a fortune and drank tooo much but I have to answer this email with great trouble in typing. Sorry! You said, "Everytime somebody won, you changed the rules." Yes, I may have or did. It is my game. Then you said " I won and you explicitly banned me and anybody who was a programmer with knowledge of e-gold scripts. You also told me that if I was honest, I would return the money." Again, I did. not because you were not honest, but because I could not afford the chance that you were not. Nothing wrong with that, I would think. Again, as you said "I was completely honest. I broke none of your rules; you didn't have any. Besides it doesn't take programming skills, or spending into your own account, to beat your old game. A person could spend into their friend's account, or even just be charitable and spend 0.1 ounces of silver into a random account. Then once the batch number is close, use your SCI to purchase ticket." I know you did not break the rules. I made them after you won BIG TIME. No Offence However, you did not reply to my email until now. Hmmm.. Then you said, again "Your (old) new rules also banned anybody from playing. "Anybody with software or hardware access to the e-gold server cannot play." In order to purchase a ticket, I must make an e-gold spend. This is a software connection over a hardware connection to the e-gold server." Well, All I can say is that I can have one of my programmers to a script to cheat the system that I had. He tried and I did not allow him to win because I had him try and if he had won, he would not of been paid because he was trying for me. he missed it by one However, others got paid, didn't they. Yes, I am honest and many on this list will state so I am sure. "Bladechaser won and you decreased the frequency of winning by 90% (added a preceeding '0' to all the winning batch numbers)." So??? As mentioned, My Rules. However, a better game is there now. "Carpet Shark won and you totally abandoned the batch number system." If I did, then I ask him to do the same as I asked you. If Carpet Shark cheated, then I him to give it back. You see, I am such the honest type that I give the benefit of the doubt. Money has less to do with it. What goes around, comes around. If you think me as a fool to think this way, then anyone thinking this will lose 10 fold. Rest assured. I may have lost almost 200 grams of gold here but please trust me, I have not lost... Then you stated. "You are honest. You did pay on every win. Although, your rules gave you the option to not pay if you so desired. However, how were supposed to contact any suspected cheaters? All you got from them was their acct#. The only way you could contact me is that I post quite frequently on this list. So if you suspected somebody was cheating, you just wouldn't pay them. They would have to wait, and wait, until they got annoyed enough that they either contacted you or posted some sort of flame directed at you on this list." Yes, I am honest. I live by that. As mentioned, money means nothing. Some may disagree. That is their problem, not mine. All I got war their acc#. Well, I could of gotten more, believe me. I could of not paid them as you mentioned. I did. Like I said, Honesty is best, in my books Your turn "So now, you just schlepping off of Vermont's lottery. Methinks that you didn't really think this game of yours through much. " Really??? MIKE == Try the e-Lottery for only .5 gram and you could win up to 1,000 grams of gold http://www.puregoldlottery.com - Original Message - From: "Viking Coder" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 12:50 AM Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: e-Lottery's New Game | | Due to the big winners of e-Lottery, I have decided to change the game. | | | Everytime somebody won, you changed the rules. | | I won and you explicitly banned me and anybody who was a programmer with | knowledge of e-gold scripts. You also told me that if I was honest, I | would return the money. | | I was completely honest. I broke none of your rules; you didn't have any. | Besides it doesn't take programming skills, or spending into your own | account, to beat your old game. A person could spend into their friend's | account, or even just be charitable and spend 0.1 ounces of silver | into a random account. Then once the batch number is close, use your SCI | to purchase ticket. | | Your (old) new rules also banned anybody from playing. "Anybody with | software or hardware access to the e-gold server cannot play." In order to | purchase a ticket, I must make an e-gold spend. This is a software | connection over a hardware connection to the e-gold server. | | Bladechaser won and you decreased the frequency of winning by 90% (added a | preceeding '0' to all the
[e-gold-list] Re: PECUNIX INCORPORATED Share Offer
--- "Viking Coder" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why are they trying to raise 6.5 million dollars to build another Digital Currency, when E-Gold and GoldMoney did it for only a couple hundred thousand dollars? Seriously, what makes you think that e-gold and GoldMoney started off with just a couple hundred thousand? GoldMoney had advertised on their website at one point that they secured atleast 2million in Seed Funding. e-gold probably needed similar funds or they wouldn't be in business today. Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] FW: (Fwd) Re: OSGOLD
This message is from Laurie at OSGOLD. She was having trouble getting her message through so I am forwarding it. Randy --- Forwarded message follows --- From: Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [e-gold-list] OSGOLD Date sent: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:23:13 -0800 My name is Laurie Dyke and I am a member of the OSGold team. I have been a member of this list for some time, and although I haven't been vocal, I have enjoyed, and in fact learned from, the many discussions here. Having been offline the last few days, due to a computer crash, this was among the 1st messages I read. I feel the need to respond. 1st of all, I must state that OSGold is not a scam. Although the system was tested completely before launch, some problems came to our attention after the traffic started, and they are being resolved as quickly as possible. I have never seen a launch without this frantic correction of errors. In this, we are no different. The unfortunate thing, is that it delayed our adding the features to the site which we had hoped to already have accessible, but our members come 1st, and so it was a necessary delay. Getting the links up for outexchange was one of the things that was delayed. We are adding Exchange Service Providers to the OSGold family now, and the links to these providers will be listed on the OSgold site as soon as they are ready. You will be pleased to find that some names you trust have done their homework and have decided to join the team. In regard to CashOverTime, I am also a member with them. I assure you that they are operated by a different person, someone in whom I have complete trust. I have received many of my back payments into my OSGold account, and if you have not, you want to verify that you have entered your OSGold account information correctly in their member profile. Once this is done, they will catch up quickly. With all the scams on the internet recently, it is perfectly understandable that people will be skeptical of something new. I understand this completely. I also know that OSGold is not one of them. We are real, and we are here to stay. Sincerely, Laurie On 22 Mar 01, at 11:51, Destiny Worldwide wrote: I am a little sceptical of OSGOLD myself, mainly because of how I was introduced to it. I was doing a little gambling in a stupid game called Cash Over Time that supposedly pays a handsome return over 7 days, and naturally, after a few deposits to my acocunt, they ahve fallen over a week behind in payments... As they stopped paying, they mentioned that they were creating a new system called Osgold. They made it appear that the sponsors of the game were the founders of Osgold. Then they promised to catch up their payments into my new Osgold account, which they still have not. Besides, I don't see any way to get the gold out of Osgold once it is in there. They do mention that "soon" you will be able to transfer gold from Osgold back to egold, but of course I can't try that yet as they stil have not paid what they have owed. IN any event, I think that maybe these people are behind both things, and that the gamers have set this up as a way to "pay" the people playing the games without actually paying them anything. I saw a simillar scam a year or so ago with Big International, but that is another story. Fortunately, I was only playing around and lost only a few dollars, but I would be very careful about trusting these people with anything at this time. John !!! Our Offshore Website has been totally redesigned, and we now have web based banking, opening of accounts, deposits, and withdrawals! Go to: http://www.offshorearnings.com +)) --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- End of forwarded message --- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: FW: (Fwd) Re: OSGOLD
In regard to CashOverTime, I am also a member with them. I assure you that they are operated by a different person, someone in whom I have complete trust. I have received many of my back payments into my OSGold account, and if you have not, you want to verify that you have entered your OSGold account information correctly in their member profile. Once this is done, they will catch up quickly. Why are back payments being made into the OSGold account, and not the originally agreed upon account? Do we all agree that HYIPs cannot go on forever? Probably not more than a few months, even? If so, then why the push to associate something that is supposed to be trustworthy, like OSGold, with an HYIP? This can only lead to disappointment when the unsuspecting customers realize that it must fail. Is OSGold developed to allow an HYIP to continue beyond its natural lifespan? If no one is allowed to withdraw any money, then an HYIP can go on forever. Is this what OSGold is supposed to perform for the HYIP: an alternative to e-gold, backed by LESS than 100% gold, so that an HYIP can pay for a longer period of time. Ultimately, though, it must come down, and the longer it takes to fail, the larger will be the disappointment of those who believed in it. If OSGold is officially promoting HYIPs then avoid it like the plague! Because the whole thing will come down when it fails. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: OSGOLD
After I sent my message I had a discussion with someone in person who told me the same thing, that COT was not the owner, but that it was someone else named David. However, he did tell me that this David was involved in something called ebiz and I seem to recall a discussion of it here. Anyway, he seemed pretty positive about Osgold, so once the market makers come aboard we may give it a try. And yes, I like cusotmer service too. John !!!Our Offshore Website has been totally redesigned, and we now have web based banking, opening of accounts,deposits, and withdrawals! Go to: http://www.offshorearnings.com+)) -Original Message-From: shupperd1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Destiny Worldwide [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Thursday, March 22, 2001 2:19 PMSubject: Re: [e-gold-list] OSGOLD Well I can tell you that Cashovertime is NOT the owners , nor do they have anything to do with the making of OSGold. They did switch to OSGold because of the simplicity of making multiple payments. Osgold does not owe you anything, so do not say they do. As far as getting osgold converted to egold, there are already a few market makers that are doing that. I am one. This is the future of online payment systems, They are not trying to take E-gold down, but they would like to see e-gold have better customer service. OSGold, Standard Reserve, GoldMoney , and E-gold are just the begining of what will probably be a saturated industry. I would rather have my money in a safe offshore haven, and have complete access to it. I also prefer Customer Service!! Give OSGold a try, soon it will be used by many more than you imagine. James Shupperd Money to Gold, and Gold to Money, Pays Referral Comissions Directly to Your eGold account.the FASTEST funding on the net. www.fastgold.net Stay informed about all the latest egold investments, games, and scams. BE INFORMED!!!http://www.e-told.com/?157585 for all of your internet shopping needs visit my mallwww.multiplexmall.com/js1460 God Bless You and Yours,James Shupperd Contact me anytimeICQ # 99212386 Aol Instant Messenger: James Shupperd - Original Message - From: Destiny Worldwide To: e-gold Discussion Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 9:51 AM Subject: [e-gold-list] OSGOLD I am a little sceptical of OSGOLD myself, mainly because of how I was introduced to it. I was doing a little gambling in a stupid game called Cash Over Time that supposedly pays a handsome return over 7 days, and naturally, after a few deposits to my acocunt, they ahve fallen over a week behind in payments... As they stopped paying, they mentioned that they were creating a new system called Osgold. They made it appear that the sponsors of the game were the founders of Osgold. Then they promised to catch up their payments into my new Osgold account, which they still have not. Besides, I don't see any way to get the gold out of Osgold once it is in there. They do mention that soon you will be able to transfer gold from Osgold back to egold, but of course I can't try that yet as they stil have not paid what they have owed. IN any event, I think that maybe these people are behind both things, and that the gamers have set this up as a way to pay the people playing the games without actually paying them anything. I saw a simillar scam a year or so ago with Big International, but that is another story. Fortunately, I was only playing around and lost only a few dollars, but I would be very careful about trusting these people with anything at this time. John !!!Our Offshore Website has been totally redesigned, and we now have web based banking, opening of accounts,deposits, and withdrawals! Go to: http://www.offshorearnings.com+))---You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: OSGOLD
Well John, I do hope that it is not the same David that was involved with ebiz as many people lost tons of money. I do think that OS Gold has a good chance and I have also referred about 400 people. Lets do give it a chance, MIKE ==Try the e-Lottery for only .5 gram and you could win up to 1,000 grams of goldhttp://www.puregoldlottery.com - Original Message - From: Destiny Worldwide To: e-gold Discussion Cc: e-gold Discussion Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 4:10 AM Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: OSGOLD After I sent my message I had a discussion with someone in person who told me the same thing, that COT was not the owner, but that it was someone else named David. However, he did tell me that this David was involved in something called ebiz and I seem to recall a discussion of it here. Anyway, he seemed pretty positive about Osgold, so once the market makers come aboard we may give it a try. And yes, I like cusotmer service too. John !!!Our Offshore Website has been totally redesigned, and we now have web based banking, opening of accounts,deposits, and withdrawals! Go to: http://www.offshorearnings.com+)) -Original Message-From: shupperd1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Destiny Worldwide [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Thursday, March 22, 2001 2:19 PMSubject: Re: [e-gold-list] OSGOLD Well I can tell you that Cashovertime is NOT the owners , nor do they have anything to do with the making of OSGold. They did switch to OSGold because of the simplicity of making multiple payments. Osgold does not owe you anything, so do not say they do. As far as getting osgold converted to egold, there are already a few market makers that are doing that. I am one. This is the future of online payment systems, They are not trying to take E-gold down, but they would like to see e-gold have better customer service. OSGold, Standard Reserve, GoldMoney , and E-gold are just the begining of what will probably be a saturated industry. I would rather have my money in a safe offshore haven, and have complete access to it. I also prefer Customer Service!! Give OSGold a try, soon it will be used by many more than you imagine. James Shupperd Money to Gold, and Gold to Money, Pays Referral Comissions Directly to Your eGold account.the FASTEST funding on the net. www.fastgold.net Stay informed about all the latest egold investments, games, and scams. BE INFORMED!!!http://www.e-told.com/?157585 for all of your internet shopping needs visit my mallwww.multiplexmall.com/js1460 God Bless You and Yours,James Shupperd Contact me anytimeICQ # 99212386 Aol Instant Messenger: James Shupperd - Original Message - From: Destiny Worldwide To: e-gold Discussion Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 9:51 AM Subject: [e-gold-list] OSGOLD I am a little sceptical of OSGOLD myself, mainly because of how I was introduced to it. I was doing a little gambling in a stupid game called Cash Over Time that supposedly pays a handsome return over 7 days, and naturally, after a few deposits to my acocunt, they ahve fallen over a week behind in payments... As they stopped paying, they mentioned that they were creating a new system called Osgold. They made it appear that the sponsors of the game were the founders of Osgold. Then they promised to catch up their payments into my new Osgold account, which they still have not. Besides, I don't see any way to get the gold out of Osgold once it is in there. They do mention that "soon" you will be able to transfer gold from Osgold back to egold, but of course I can't try that yet as they stil have not paid what they have owed. IN any event, I think that maybe these people are behind both things, and that the gamers have set this up as a way to "pay" the people playing the games without actually paying them anything. I saw a simillar scam a year or so ago with Big International, but that is another story. Fortunately, I was only playing around and lost only a few dollars, but I would be very careful about trusting these people with anything at this time. John !!!Our Offshore Website has been totally redesigned, and we now have web based banking, opening of accounts,deposits, and withdrawals! Go to:
[e-gold-list] Re: OSGOLD
That's what I thought. If it was, there would not of been an email a few days ago by someone on this list that every one trusts and respects. MIKE ==Try the e-Lottery for only .5 gram and you could win up to 1,000 grams of goldhttp://www.puregoldlottery.com - Original Message - From: shupperd1 To: Mike Poulos Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 4:16 AM Subject: Re: [e-gold-list] Re: OSGOLD It is not the same David Money to Gold, and Gold to Money, Pays Referral Comissions Directly to Your eGold account.the FASTEST funding on the net. www.fastgold.net Stay informed about all the latest egold investments, games, and scams. BE INFORMED!!!http://www.e-told.com/?157585 for all of your internet shopping needs visit my mallwww.multiplexmall.com/js1460 God Bless You and Yours,James Shupperd Contact me anytimeICQ # 99212386 Aol Instant Messenger: James Shupperd - Original Message - From: Mike Poulos To: e-gold Discussion Cc: e-gold Discussion Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 1:13 PM Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: OSGOLD Well John, I do hope that it is not the same David that was involved with ebiz as many people lost tons of money. I do think that OS Gold has a good chance and I have also referred about 400 people. Lets do give it a chance, MIKE ==Try the e-Lottery for only .5 gram and you could win up to 1,000 grams of goldhttp://www.puregoldlottery.com - Original Message - From: Destiny Worldwide To: e-gold Discussion Cc: e-gold Discussion Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 4:10 AM Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: OSGOLD After I sent my message I had a discussion with someone in person who told me the same thing, that COT was not the owner, but that it was someone else named David. However, he did tell me that this David was involved in something called ebiz and I seem to recall a discussion of it here. Anyway, he seemed pretty positive about Osgold, so once the market makers come aboard we may give it a try. And yes, I like cusotmer service too. John !!!Our Offshore Website has been totally redesigned, and we now have web based banking, opening of accounts,deposits, and withdrawals! Go to: http://www.offshorearnings.com+)) -Original Message-From: shupperd1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Destiny Worldwide [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Thursday, March 22, 2001 2:19 PMSubject: Re: [e-gold-list] OSGOLD Well I can tell you that Cashovertime is NOT the owners , nor do they have anything to do with the making of OSGold. They did switch to OSGold because of the simplicity of making multiple payments. Osgold does not owe you anything, so do not say they do. As far as getting osgold converted to egold, there are already a few market makers that are doing that. I am one. This is the future of online payment systems, They are not trying to take E-gold down, but they would like to see e-gold have better customer service. OSGold, Standard Reserve, GoldMoney , and E-gold are just the begining of what will probably be a saturated industry. I would rather have my money in a safe offshore haven, and have complete access to it. I also prefer Customer Service!! Give OSGold a try, soon it will be used by many more than you imagine. James Shupperd Money to Gold, and Gold to Money, Pays Referral Comissions Directly to Your eGold account.the FASTEST funding on the net. www.fastgold.net Stay informed about all the latest egold investments, games, and scams. BE INFORMED!!!http://www.e-told.com/?157585 for all of your internet shopping needs visit my mallwww.multiplexmall.com/js1460 God Bless You and Yours,James Shupperd Contact me anytimeICQ # 99212386 Aol Instant Messenger: James Shupperd - Original Message - From: Destiny Worldwide To: e-gold Discussion Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 9:51 AM Subject: [e-gold-list] OSGOLD I am a little sceptical of OSGOLD myself, mainly because of how I was introduced to it. I was doing a little gambling in a stupid game called Cash
[e-gold-list] Re: OSGOLD
Dave was not involved with Ebiz, He was not a staff member or even a rep. He was a player like the rest of us and lost money like the rest of us. Randy -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike PoulosSent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 4:14 PMTo: e-gold DiscussionCc: e-gold DiscussionSubject: [e-gold-list] Re: OSGOLD Well John, I do hope that it is not the same David that was involved with ebiz as many people lost tons of money. I do think that OS Gold has a good chance and I have also referred about 400 people. Lets do give it a chance, MIKE ==Try the e-Lottery for only .5 gram and you could win up to 1,000 grams of goldhttp://www.puregoldlottery.com - Original Message - From: Destiny Worldwide To: e-gold Discussion Cc: e-gold Discussion Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 4:10 AM Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: OSGOLD After I sent my message I had a discussion with someone in person who told me the same thing, that COT was not the owner, but that it was someone else named David. However, he did tell me that this David was involved in something called ebiz and I seem to recall a discussion of it here. Anyway, he seemed pretty positive about Osgold, so once the market makers come aboard we may give it a try. And yes, I like cusotmer service too. John !!!Our Offshore Website has been totally redesigned, and we now have web based banking, opening of accounts,deposits, and withdrawals! Go to: http://www.offshorearnings.com+)) -Original Message-From: shupperd1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Destiny Worldwide [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Thursday, March 22, 2001 2:19 PMSubject: Re: [e-gold-list] OSGOLD Well I can tell you that Cashovertime is NOT the owners , nor do they have anything to do with the making of OSGold. They did switch to OSGold because of the simplicity of making multiple payments. Osgold does not owe you anything, so do not say they do. As far as getting osgold converted to egold, there are already a few market makers that are doing that. I am one. This is the future of online payment systems, They are not trying to take E-gold down, but they would like to see e-gold have better customer service. OSGold, Standard Reserve, GoldMoney , and E-gold are just the begining of what will probably be a saturated industry. I would rather have my money in a safe offshore haven, and have complete access to it. I also prefer Customer Service!! Give OSGold a try, soon it will be used by many more than you imagine. James Shupperd Money to Gold, and Gold to Money, Pays Referral Comissions Directly to Your eGold account.the FASTEST funding on the net. www.fastgold.net Stay informed about all the latest egold investments, games, and scams. BE INFORMED!!!http://www.e-told.com/?157585 for all of your internet shopping needs visit my mallwww.multiplexmall.com/js1460 God Bless You and Yours,James Shupperd Contact me anytimeICQ # 99212386 Aol Instant Messenger: James Shupperd - Original Message - From: Destiny Worldwide To: e-gold Discussion Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 9:51 AM Subject: [e-gold-list] OSGOLD I am a little sceptical of OSGOLD myself, mainly because of how I was introduced to it. I was doing a little gambling in a stupid game called Cash Over Time that supposedly pays a handsome return over 7 days, and naturally, after a few deposits to my acocunt, they ahve fallen over a week behind in payments... As they stopped paying, they mentioned that they were creating a new system called Osgold. They made it appear that the sponsors of the game were the founders of Osgold. Then they promised to catch up their payments into my new Osgold account, which they still have not. Besides, I don't see any way to get the gold out of Osgold once it is in there. They do mention that "soon" you will be able to transfer gold from Osgold back to egold, but of course I can't try that yet as they stil have not paid what they have owed. IN any event, I think that maybe these people are behind both things, and that the gamers have set this up as a way to "pay" the people playing the games
[e-gold-list] someone is spamming with the intent to defraud PayPal and e-gold
Yeah, Somebody, but he put it on the Boston Linux Users list, a public list. I'm pretty shameless about that kind of thing. To quote Bluto Blutarski, um, well, you get the idea Cheers, RAH --- begin forwarded text To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: someone is spamming with the intent to defraud PayPal and e-gold Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:20:29 -0500 From: Somebody Note that this person had no intention of corresponding with your lists. I ask that you blind it well or contact the author (Seth) before proceeding. Perhaps asking your contacts at e-gold or paypal would be best. cheers, Somebody --- Forwarded Message Date: 22 Mar 2001 16:30:40 - From: Seth Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: someone is spamming with the intent to defraud PayPal and e-gold In the past week, I've gotten two HTML email messages, one imitating PayPal's login page and one imitating e-gold's login page. Apparently, someone is sending these out in the hope of collecting passwords from PayPal and e-gold customers. I've already contacted the two companies; PayPal's response made me wonder if any human being had actually read the text I typed into their Web form. Is there anyone else who should be notified? --sethg - Subcription/unsubscription/info requests: send e-mail with "subscribe", "unsubscribe", or "info" on the first line of the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Subject line is ignored). --- End of Forwarded Message --- end forwarded text -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: someone is spamming with the intent to defraud PayPal and e-gold
In the past week, I've gotten two HTML email messages, one imitating PayPal's login page and one imitating e-gold's login page. Apparently, someone is sending these out in the hope of collecting passwords from PayPal and e-gold customers. I have already been bitten by this one. Some guy hit the link, typed in his uername and password. I received 3 orders for e-gold. Fortunately I sent an email confirming the orders and they guy told me what happened. The bozo that actually placed the order sent me an extortion demand that I pay him 20 grams a day or he would shut down my paypal account. He tried to get them to close it, but fortunately paypal is starting to get its act together. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: OSGOLD
I hope you are right too, but the party I spoke to at lunch seemed to think it was the same David as was behind ebiz. Anyway, if Cash Over Time does finally deposit the money they owe me into that account, I will use that to play around with the system and test it out. John !!!Our Offshore Website has been totally redesigned, and we now have web based banking, opening of accounts,deposits, and withdrawals! Go to: http://www.offshorearnings.com+)) -Original Message-From: Mike Poulos [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Destiny Worldwide [EMAIL PROTECTED]; e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Thursday, March 22, 2001 3:09 PMSubject: Re: [e-gold-list] Re: OSGOLD Well John, I do hope that it is not the same David that was involved with ebiz as many people lost tons of money. I do think that OS Gold has a good chance and I have also referred about 400 people. Lets do give it a chance, MIKE ==Try the e-Lottery for only .5 gram and you could win up to 1,000 grams of goldhttp://www.puregoldlottery.com - Original Message - From: Destiny Worldwide To: e-gold Discussion Cc: e-gold Discussion Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 4:10 AM Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: OSGOLD After I sent my message I had a discussion with someone in person who told me the same thing, that COT was not the owner, but that it was someone else named David. However, he did tell me that this David was involved in something called ebiz and I seem to recall a discussion of it here. Anyway, he seemed pretty positive about Osgold, so once the market makers come aboard we may give it a try. And yes, I like cusotmer service too. John !!!Our Offshore Website has been totally redesigned, and we now have web based banking, opening of accounts,deposits, and withdrawals! Go to: http://www.offshorearnings.com+)) -Original Message-From: shupperd1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Destiny Worldwide [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Thursday, March 22, 2001 2:19 PMSubject: Re: [e-gold-list] OSGOLD Well I can tell you that Cashovertime is NOT the owners , nor do they have anything to do with the making of OSGold. They did switch to OSGold because of the simplicity of making multiple payments. Osgold does not owe you anything, so do not say they do. As far as getting osgold converted to egold, there are already a few market makers that are doing that. I am one. This is the future of online payment systems, They are not trying to take E-gold down, but they would like to see e-gold have better customer service. OSGold, Standard Reserve, GoldMoney , and E-gold are just the begining of what will probably be a saturated industry. I would rather have my money in a safe offshore haven, and have complete access to it. I also prefer Customer Service!! Give OSGold a try, soon it will be used by many more than you imagine. James Shupperd Money to Gold, and Gold to Money, Pays Referral Comissions Directly to Your eGold account.the FASTEST funding on the net. www.fastgold.net Stay informed about all the latest egold investments, games, and scams. BE INFORMED!!!http://www.e-told.com/?157585 for all of your internet shopping needs visit my mallwww.multiplexmall.com/js1460 God Bless You and Yours,James Shupperd Contact me anytimeICQ # 99212386 Aol Instant Messenger: James Shupperd - Original Message - From: Destiny Worldwide To: e-gold Discussion Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 9:51 AM Subject: [e-gold-list] OSGOLD I am a little sceptical of OSGOLD myself, mainly because of how I was introduced to it. I was doing a little gambling in a stupid game called Cash Over Time that
[e-gold-list] Re: e-Lottery's New Game
Hi, Because it slightly offended me when you questioned my honor. I didn't want to rip into you while I still in that state of mind. Is that what this list is really all about? "Ripping into people" that have different opinions or that you feel slighted by? I was under the impression this list was to further promote e-gold and its applications...not a place to settle personal vendettas. Of course, I could be wrong about that Eric - Original Message - From: "Viking Coder" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 4:51 PM Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: e-Lottery's New Game I know you did not break the rules. I made them after you won BIG TIME. No Offence However, you did not reply to my email until now. Hmmm.. Because it slightly offended me when you questioned my honor. I didn't want to rip into you while I still in that state of mind. Yes, I am honest and many on this list will state so I am sure. I am one of them. "Bladechaser won and you decreased the frequency of winning by 90% (added a preceeding '0' to all the winning batch numbers)." So??? As mentioned, My Rules. However, a better game is there now. Yeah... But you kept changing the rules every single time somebody won. Gambling institutions, or any business, do not stay in operation for long when they are constantly changing their rules. Rest assured. I may have lost almost 200 grams of gold here but please trust me, I have not lost... ... As mentioned, money means nothing. Some may disagree. A quote from one of my favorite movies. "You're either incredibly stupid, or incredibly intelligent." I'm now curious what this little experiment of your's was for and why it was worth 175 AUG. The only people who say that money means nothing are either extremely wealthy or have reached a state of utter futitily (in which case they usually don't casually throw ~$1,500 into the wind), or have reached a state of spiritual enlightenment that most people can't even comprehend. Viking Coder Worth Two Cents? http://www.2cw.org/VikingCoder --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] e-gold flaws Previously: PECUNIX INCORPORATED Share Offer
--- "GoldDirectory.com" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seriously... What flaws does e-gold have? 1. Someone can very easily write a script that continuosly tries to access an account with a bad passphrase and therefore locking any account perpetually. 2. There is no way to show a third party that you've actually sent gold into another account. Maybe a public batchnumber system can work here. 3. Negative Balances! 4. No third party counting the gold in the storage facility. 5. Absolutely no fraud prevention or resolution. PayPal may be horibble but they still have some kind of "Insurance" for its users. It may not be much.. but its something. 6. e-gold doesn't exist. Try calling somebody who works for e-gold. It won't happen. You'll have to call somebody that says they work for e-gold but at the end of the day, they are being paid by GSR. 7. Sole Bailee of metal into the storage facility. 8. Server located in beautiful Melbourne, Florida. 9. Conflict of interest for users because the people that control e-gold also control its sole Bailee. 10. No Marketing! Relying on users to bring in merchants instead of getting merchants that bring in users. 11. Bad website design. 12. Ploy to collect a large amount of precious metals incase Y2K didn't go too well.. - just kidding on that one. There are several pieces of evidence that point to that.. but I might discuss that at a later time. 13. Bad service. 14. Majority of user-base is involved in "questionable" activities. 15. Infringement of patents... from what I've heard. Just to name a few.. Have a nice day. Khurram Khan == 2 cents worth? http://two-cents-worth.com/?135153 _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Sell e-gold at IceGold with 1% premium!
A marvellous system!!! Go icegold! Hello everybody, I'm glad to announce that we have finished testing our "Sell e-gold" form and have released it for public use. Click here: http://www.icegold.com/sell_e-gold.php?list. Now you can change your e-gold into dollars or euros (or any other 15 currencies we accept) in your bank account for as low as 7 USD. If you are in hurry, you can buy Express wire and the money is in your account the next day. The choice is yours! Anyone can use this service, regardless of their location. All you need is a bank account, e-gold account and e-gold to sell. Currently we will pay 1% premium for your e-gold. So for 100 USD worth of e-gold you'll receive 101 USD (minus the wire fee). The premium will change from time to time in response to demand for this service. You can find our current premium displayed in the left column of our web site under "we buy". All comments are welcome. Response from customer support guaranteed. Sincerely, Paul Vahur --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] one of life's many mysteries.
At 3:38 PM -0500 3/22/01, wrote: Having been offline the last few days, due to a computer crash, Does anyone know why pyramid schemes, mlm companies etc, have a spectacular number of computer crashes? Is there special computer hardware and software sold to ponzi and "HYIP!" operators that is particularly unreliable? Do any of the technical folks on this list have answer? Mysterious isn't it? --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] pecunix fun.
Is it true that the bloke behind !!PECUINX!! is the SAME bloke behind CharityChase, EMutualFun, and DigitalStocks? Anyone know? JP! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] RE: e-gold flaws Previously: PECUNIX INCORPORATED Share Offer
3. Negative Balances! Anyone want to see negative balances in action. Just view the top account on e-gold's public balances page... http://www.e-gold.com/pub-bal.asp?pubid=100 -7.76 troy ounces of silver I'm proud of that one because I was able to send two (2) transactions back-to-back fast enough to have e-gold think my account still had funds in it. Meaning, the first transaction would have zeroed out the account, and the second transaction should have been rejected. But, instead, it accepted both because the first transaction didn't remove the amount of gold before it spent it to another account, so the second transaction was able to withdraw even more before the first transaction caught up. I believe they have corrected this, but they didn't want to give me 7.76 ounces of silver (a measley $33.63 US Dollars) for reporting their bug to them, so it remains on public display. Hehe. No, this was _not_ caused by their storage fees as some people may tell you. That would have required at least 9312 ounces of silver (over $40,000.00 USD) on the account--I'm sorry, but I did not have that much stashed in silver. It will remain on display until someone spends me 7.76 ounces of silver, or I need to use it for other purpose--which might be awhile, since our Gold-Escrow.com is closed temporarily. :^) Deen Foxx (CTO) [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] RE: pecunix fun.
Is it true that the bloke behind !!PECUINX!! is the SAME bloke behind CharityChase, EMutualFun, and DigitalStocks? Anyone know? Yes, I know! The guy behind the now defunct Charitychase.com was a guy from NZ called Danny. The guy behind emutualfun was a guy from Oregon called Kelly Chohan. Sorry I don't know who the guys behind DigitalStocks were But they definitely aren't me! Regards, Sidd. PS I did help them with their programming though. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] RE: pecunix fun.
OOOPs!!! It sounds like I helped DigitalStocks with their programming... not so! My company helped CharityChase and Emutualfun with their programming Sidd. Is it true that the bloke behind !!PECUINX!! is the SAME bloke behind CharityChase, EMutualFun, and DigitalStocks? Anyone know? Yes, I know! The guy behind the now defunct Charitychase.com was a guy from NZ called Danny. The guy behind emutualfun was a guy from Oregon called Kelly Chohan. Sorry I don't know who the guys behind DigitalStocks were But they definitely aren't me! Regards, Sidd. PS I did help them with their programming though. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] RE: e-gold flaws Previously: PECUNIX INCORPORATED Share Offer
I'm proud of that one because I was able to send two (2) transactions back-to-back fast enough to have e-gold think my account still had funds in it. Meaning, the first transaction would have zeroed out the account, and the second transaction should have been rejected. But, instead, it accepted both because the first transaction didn't remove the amount of gold before it spent it to another account, so the second transaction was able to withdraw even more before the first transaction caught up. Good grief! It's hard to believe there would be such a fundamental error in a financial database! Sidd. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: e-Lottery's New Game
Is that what this list is really all about? "Ripping into people" that have different opinions or that you feel slighted by? I apologize for the misconception. I wasn't ripping into him for all to see. He asked why I hadn't replied; I told him it was because if I did, I would have ripped into him (in private mail). I was bringing up several points about his way of running an e-gold based business. This is a forum for discussing e-gold the business which use e-gold. I was under the impression this list was to further promote e-gold and its applications...not a place to settle personal vendettas. I hope this list never degenerates into a series of flamewars. Viking Coder --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold flaws Previously: PECUNIX INCORPORATED Share Offer
Hello Khurram! As usual, I disagree! Seriously... What flaws does e-gold have? 1. Someone can very easily write a script that continuosly tries to access an account with a bad passphrase and therefore locking any account perpetually. This is a feature. Good security, to keep hackers from continually trying passphrases until they get lucky. 2. There is no way to show a third party that you've actually sent gold into another account. Maybe a public batchnumber system can work here. Why would you want to do this? Get the party you've sent it to, to make a statement. 3. Negative Balances! They only occur when the monthly agio fee is applied to an average balance, and the only entity affected in e-gold. The only alternative is to assess the fees on each spend, as GoldMoney does, and this is way to complicated. This is a feature. 4. No third party counting the gold in the storage facility. The Escrow Agent should start this soon. Hey, no one else even HAS an escrow agent. 5. Absolutely no fraud prevention or resolution. PayPal may be horibble but they still have some kind of "Insurance" for its users. It may not be much.. but its something. I agree! E-Gold needs an insurance policy against hackers who raid accounts, like PayPal! 6. e-gold doesn't exist. Try calling somebody who works for e-gold. It won't happen. You'll have to call somebody that says they work for e-gold but at the end of the day, they are being paid by GSR. Why does this bother you so much? You mention it all the time! 7. Sole Bailee of metal into the storage facility. Prevents fraud. Anytime you allow someone to bail gold into the system, you open a door for stolen gold, which would lead to counterfeit e-gold. The important function is to allow a third party to BAIL-OUT the gold on demand. This is a feature. 8. Server located in beautiful Melbourne, Florida. Under the protection of the USA. Another feature. 9. Conflict of interest for users because the people that control e-gold also control its sole Bailee. Why is this a problem? 10. No Marketing! Relying on users to bring in merchants instead of getting merchants that bring in users. With growth like they've had, they wouldn't be able to handle any more. This is a good business decision. 11. Bad website design. Excellent website design! 12. Ploy to collect a large amount of precious metals incase Y2K didn't go too well.. - just kidding on that one. There are several pieces of evidence that point to that.. but I might discuss that at a later time. No relevant. 13. Bad service. I AGREE!!! 14. Majority of user-base is involved in "questionable" activities. The only way to remedy this is to eliminate the idea of an internet currency, and replace it with a payment system, like PayPal. This is an unfortunate aspect of the entire premise, and cannot be avoided. 15. Infringement of patents... from what I've heard. You cannot claim an 'idea' as a patent and have it hold up in court. Just to name a few.. Have a nice day. hehe.. Talk Later, Craig --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] RE: pecunix fun.
Wander over to http://www.pvcse.com/, follow the link to "investor information", and download the business plan and prospectus. The primary principal behind Pecunix is Simon Davis, the gentleman in New Zealand who brought CharityChase, EMutualFun, and DigitalStocks to e-gold. The guy behind the now defunct Charitychase.com was a guy from NZ called Danny. The guy behind emutualfun was a guy from Oregon called Kelly Chohan. Sorry I don't know who the guys behind DigitalStocks were But they definitely aren't me! Regards, Sidd. PS I did help them with their programming though. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: e-Lottery's New Game
Hi Viking, First, I did not accuse you of anything. What I did say was "IF" and you said you did not so that is that. As for changing the rules, well, as you can see, I changed the game. The lost of the gold was what you can call a test. Would it work? Did it work? Well, yes and no. It was a chance I took that led me to do something totally different. With the Pick 4 game, here I can not lose but people can win up to 1,000 grams and you know what? I would like to see it be you. As for your last quote "I hope this list never degenerates into a series of flamewars.", I do not think it will. If you wish, you can even help me out with one little script that would take you about 1 minute. You up for it? MIKE == Try the e-Lottery for only .5 gram and you could win up to 1,000 grams of gold http://www.puregoldlottery.com - Original Message - From: "Viking Coder" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 9:10 AM Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: e-Lottery's New Game | Is that what this list is really all about? "Ripping into people" that | have different opinions or that you feel slighted by? | | | I apologize for the misconception. I wasn't ripping into him for all to | see. He asked why I hadn't replied; I told him it was because if I did, I | would have ripped into him (in private mail). I was bringing up several | points about his way of running an e-gold based business. This is a forum | for discussing e-gold the business which use e-gold. | | | I was under the impression this list was to further promote e-gold and | its applications...not a place to settle personal vendettas. | | | I hope this list never degenerates into a series of flamewars. | | | Viking Coder | | --- | You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] JMR's phone and email address
Guys, I urgently need Jim Ray's email address and phone... Jim? Cheers! Graham Kelly CEO GoldNow Corporation http://www.GoldNow.St Phone/Fax +44 (0)709-233-7612 USA Phone/Fax +1(312)777-4270 Want a debit card linked to your e-gold account? Apply below! https://www.standardreserve.com/acct/instant_anywhere_application.asp?CID=10 https://www.e-gold.com/newacct/newaccount.asp?cid=103346 --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] RE: pecunix fun.
At 01:40 PM 3/23/2001 +1200, Sidd wrote: Is it true that the bloke behind !!PECUINX!! is the SAME bloke behind CharityChase, EMutualFun, and DigitalStocks? Anyone know? Yes, I know! The guy behind the now defunct Charitychase.com was a guy from NZ called Danny. The solicitation spam for investing in PECUNIX came from Danny N. Mallinder of NZ. Same or coincidence? It amazes me to think that somebody believes that today's investors will invest in a dream. Now-a-days they want to see a working proof of concept - that the plan is developed, tested and it works. And, that you have experienced people who can carry out the plan, and continue to make the business grow. And, forget the costs of technology - it's what is needed to generate business that's important to investors. George --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: e-Lottery's New Game
Your 100% right. TGC is a great game. Since they launched, I played 26,283 hands, spent 2,656.70 grams of gold and received back in winnings 1,337.0291 grams. This give me a total lost of 1,319.7609 grams of gold and I am still playing. Why? Because it is fun. Also, when they started, I had asked about how I can go about getting my own version of TGC and if my memory servers me correctly, I was told that it would cost me about 100k or so. As for TGC, keep on SPINNING MIKE == Try the e-Lottery for only .5 gram and you could win up to 1,000 grams of gold http://www.puregoldlottery.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 9:05 AM Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: e-Lottery's New Game | Anyone interested in LOTTERY type of gambling may well want to look | at this alternative: | | http://interestingsoftware.com/lottery1.jpg | | | (fun graphics huh!) | | TENS OF THOUSANDS of pulls have been made on TGC's slot machine. (I | know, because I can peek at the database.) KILOGRAMS of gold have | been played into it and won out of it. | | It could not be more honest. My company, ISL, among other things | sells an online casino software package. We are one fo the half | dozen companies that supply software to online casinos. This is big | business (100s of thousands of bucks for a license). ISL's casino | software has played untold millions .. 50 or 60 million .. hands of | blackjack, slot machines, roulette etc on numerous of the major | online casinos. | | For anyone who does not know the story, my company convinced one of | our "normal" online casino clients to have a go at an e-gold based | online casino. (Obviously it is an irrelevancy compared to an | everyday credit card online casino, it would have to win ALL THE | EGOLD IN CIRCULATION, every COUPLE OF MONTHS, to compare to even a | mid-sized conventional online casino, but it is a fun | novelty/experiment for a regular online casino company to operate) | | Regarding the slot machine shown above, I see that NUMEROUS players | have won the 150 gram biggest jackpot, and EVERY DAY a prize of 5-10 | grams is won. I think that machine on TGC is our #3 four reel slot | engine which is a 96.212% machine, which is quite loose and it is | unlikely you wil find better odds elsewhere (except on a HYIP of | course -- where you HAVE TO win!) | | I think gambling is fairly dumb (although we all have a flutter on | stuff now and then) but if you must do it with e-gold, consider doing | it with an utterly honest, clean, working, reliable system! | | If you are one of the desperate types who go for a big win :), check | out the Let It Ride game which is a fun and simple card game | | http://interestingsoftware.com/lottery2.jpg | | TENS OF THOUSANDS of hands have been played. the biggest prize one | so far is THREE HUNDRED grams, I assume from a straight flush | | Plus the cowboy chic is hot. :) | | TGC is a magnificent example of how well e-gold works as a payment system. | | Yay e-gold! | | At other online casinos, getting "paid out" is a bit of a fantasy, | you have to wait days until your credit card is "credited". | | At TGC you can if you want just to prove a point, deposit a few | dollars of egold into your TGC account (TGC covers the spend fee), | and then instantly withdraw it, all instantaneously, losing nothing, | no hitches or screw ups. | | If you win gold, you can instantaneously withdraw it all. | | http://www.thegoldcasino.com -- play for "fun grams" if you just want | to see the games work. | | | | | | | | | | | --- | You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] RE: pecunix fun.
George Matyjewicz wrote: It amazes me to think that somebody believes that today's investors will invest in a dream. Now-a-days they want to see a working proof of concept - that the plan is developed, tested and it works. Yes, isn't it fantastic that e-gold has done this for us. And, that you have experienced people who can carry out the plan, and continue to make the business grow. Yes I agree, when you have the right people behind the business this is easy. Guys with solid qualifications and experience give investors great confidence. And, forget the costs of technology - it's what is needed to generate business that's important to investors. True, the technology is the easy part (see e-gold); its getting the business to fly that takes skill, determination, imagination and a bit of innovative flair... show that to the investors and they love you. Best regards, Sidd. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
