[e-gold-list] Re: First ZKS, now PGP (Network Associates)

[Ian Green]

on 13/10/2001 9:21 am, Julian Morrison at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
> What amazes me is that hushmail has survived their disastrous "version
> 2" release which needs one specific patchlevel of internet explorer to
> run at all. Before they did that, I was a fan. If only there were a
> "don't wanna upgrade" option...


After wasting hours on more than one occasion I have never been able to
login to Hushmail since the upgrade. (PC: IE5.5 or Netscape 4.7 and later 6
| Mac: IE5) I did want *an* upgrade, because speed of initial login was
never satisfactory. So a better option would be "undo my upgrade!"

Regards,

Ian Green


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[e-gold-list] Re: Euro Stirs Y2K-Like Concerns (1 of 2)

[GoldCom Admin.]

>"The introduction of the euro represents a golden opportunity for
>organized crime," said John Abbott, director general of Great Britain’s
>National Criminal Intelligence Service (NCIS). "During conversion, from 1
>January 2002 to midway through the year, criminals will exploit public,
>commercial and institutional confusion to their advantage."
-

Especially when you consider that a several sets of plates (used in
printing) for the new Euros are already missing, along with several
loads of their "special" paper. At least that's what I heard on a
news-blurb on the radio a few months ago (it may have been as long as a
year now, I don't quite remember) and as a humorous little snippet on
Paul Hary. For those that have heard Paul Harvey's show, and know his
understated humor, imagine him reading the tag line ". . . we don't know
what happened to the plates. They were on the plane when we took off."

PECB

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[e-gold-list] Re: First ZKS, now PGP (Network Associates)

[Michael Moore]

I could not run it at all and consequently missed quite  few emails.

However now I have msie 6.0 and the applett  running it is fine.

msie  seems to be the correction for msie 5 series seems to me
- Original Message - 



> "James M. Ray" wrote:
> > 
> > http://www.nai.com/other/jump/customer-faq.asp

> 
> What amazes me is that hushmail has survived their disastrous "version
> 2" release which needs one specific patchlevel of internet explorer to
> run at all. Before they did that, I was a fan. If only there were a
> "don't wanna upgrade" option...



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[e-gold-list] Re: First ZKS, now PGP (Network Associates)

[Julian Morrison]

"James M. Ray" wrote:
> 
> http://www.nai.com/other/jump/customer-faq.asp
> 
> It's interesting (to me, anyway...) that Hushmail somehow finds
> a way to survive. It's probably just a coincidence Hush accepts
> e-gold -- and was the only one that ever did, right? ;^)

What amazes me is that hushmail has survived their disastrous "version
2" release which needs one specific patchlevel of internet explorer to
run at all. Before they did that, I was a fan. If only there were a
"don't wanna upgrade" option...

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[e-gold-list] Re: Warning

[Frank Zuchristian]

This just arrived in one of my other mail boxes
courtesy of Financial Prosperity.
Subject SCAM WARNING

DO NOT ATTEMPT to believe the following email SHOULD
you receive it.
This is a continuing scam being sent out by someone
pretending to be
Douglas Jackson of E-gold.

E-Gold is NOT closing and E-Gold will NEVER request
you to login at 
any web site. PLEASE READ carefully and DO NOT believe
it.



Dear E-GOLD Customer,

As such, I regret to inform you taht E-GOLD service,
will be 
discontinued as of october 22nd 2001. Please refer to
the detailed 
E-GOLD shutdown timetable at : 

This decision was not taken lightly. It reflects the
ongoing high 
cost and limited returns of operating the E-GOLD
Network.
For the past five years we have worked very hard to
develop and 
mantain a sustainable private online banking system
and we thank you 
for all your support of our endeavor.

We share your disappointment and we apologize for the
impact this 
decision will have on your online activities. We
deeply regret that 
we are unable to maintain the E-GOLD Network and we
wish to thank you 
for your loyalty and for your understanding of this
difficult decision 
we had to make.

Please follow the link : 

REMOVED 

The timetable for shutting down the E-GOLD network and
the REFUND 
POLICY, for all the customers.

Sincerely,

Douglas Jackson
Gold & Silver Reserve

*

The above is a fake and a SCAM. DO NOT even attempt to
login to the
url that is given in the above SHOULD you receive it.
You will be
giving your passphrase away to a scammer. You have
been earned, now
please do not be stupid!!!


Frank
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[e-gold-list] Fw: Euro Stirs Y2K-Like Concerns (2 of 2)

[Fidex Marketing]

JMR,

I know you are not a fan of the Euro and if you are asking for a political opinion, 
neither am I.

But it is a reality that all interbank settlements within the Euro zone and all credit 
card transactions have been settled in Euros for nearly 2 years now already and it 
works fine. The only change in January is that it will exist in CASH form - which will 
make absolutely no difference to anyone who is dealing in DGCs or wire transfers or 
checks. 

It is really inconvenient at this time that the e-gold interface is still expressed in 
DEM and FRF. What is the reason for this?

Regards
Nick
Fidex



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[e-gold-list] Euro Stirs Y2K-Like Concerns (2 of 2)

[James M. Ray]

Part two.
JMR

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Status:  U
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 14:07:00 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Skywave News Service <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (by way of
[EMAIL PROTECTED])
Subject: ip: Euro Stirs Y2K-Like Concerns (2 of 2)


http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,47252-2,00.html

Euro Stirs Y2K-Like Concerns
2:00 a.m. Oct. 9, 2001 PDT
(page 2)

"Whenever there is a social discontinuity, there is massive cyber-fraud,"
Valentine said. "This first happened in the Y2K scare. Now, with the
arrival of the euro, there will be a substantial increase of new Web-based
scams because cyber criminals, like all fraud artists, need periods of
change to prosper," he said.

Peter Vogel, a partner with the law firm Gardere Wynne Sewell in Dallas,
agreed that the potential for cyber-fraud during the euro changeover is
mind-boggling.

"In the U.S., for example, there is a bank transfer system called Fedwire
that transfers $3 trillion per day, and the U.S. Government Accounting
Office (GAO) claims that at any time $40 million to $50 million are
unaccounted for, meaning it is either lost or stolen. That's just one
country, so imagine the potential criminal opportunities to transfer euros
on the Internet between 15 countries," he said.

Vogel added that the "code of silence" that prevails among enterprises when
it comes to cyber crime only makes it harder to nab the criminals.

"The criminal vulnerability for the euro is made worse by the fact that
less than 10 percent of computer/Internet crimes are reported because of
the potential adverse publicity and lack of public confidence if a major
bank admitted that a major theft had occurred," Vogel said.

Patrick O'Beirne, a euro consultant with Systems Modelling and author of a
book on information systems and the euro, said that the new currency
undoubtedly presented an opportunity for white-collar crime or "inside
jobs." The challenge for companies will be detecting whether conversion
mistakes have been the result of human error, a software glitch or
deliberate fraud, O'Beirne said.

Such confusion has already been evident this year in some European
countries as company payrolls, financial institutions and government bodies
began calculating amounts in euros.

In France, Electricité de France (EDF) was underpaid by 50,000 of its
customers because they confused francs with euros on electricity bills,
while workers in a Spanish computer firm were surprised when their
paychecks of 200,000 pesetas a month (about $1,100) were mistakenly printed
as 200,000 euros (about $184,000).

The countdown to the euro comes at a time when politicians have been
calling for tougher measures to tackle cyber crime.

Douglas Alexander, the United Kingdom's minister of state for e-commerce,
recently warned that businesses used by hackers to attack other enterprises
must take a share of the blame.

"The terrorist attack on America has put a new and intense focus on
information security," Alexander said. "Businesses that have gaps in their
security and act as a platform for denial-of-service attacks must be held
responsible for their role in the attack."

The Belgian government has also been pushing EU members to support its
plans for an early warning system for computer viruses. The idea is to
create a Web of computer virus and cyber-crime centers that would swap
intelligence and give advance warning of emerging threats.

That, however, will come too late to help enterprises deal with the euro
conversion. In the meantime, companies are advised to reinforce their
cybersecurity measures before Jan. 1 –- or face the consequences.

Gartner's Jones recommended that IT systems should be fully checked for
conversion functionality, antivirus protection and backup strategies in the
event of a problem. He also advised enterprises to draw up a contingency
plan covering scenarios such as power cuts, lack of staff and hardware
failure.

"The apocalypse scenario hopefully won't happen, but it's better to be safe
than sorry," Jones said.


<
44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA
"... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity,
[predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to
experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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[e-gold-list] Euro Stirs Y2K-Like Concerns (1 of 2)

[James M. Ray]

Forwarded from the Hettinga lists.
JMR

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Status:  U
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 14:06:56 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Skywave News Service <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (by way of
[EMAIL PROTECTED])
Subject: ip: Euro Stirs Y2K-Like Concerns (1 of 2)


http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,47252,00.html

Euro Stirs Y2K-Like Concerns
By Dermot McGrath

2:00 a.m. Oct. 9, 2001 PDT

PARIS -- Introducing a new currency may not be the kind of event to inspire
Hollywood blockbusters, but security experts and intelligence agencies warn
that the arrival of the euro in January 2002 has the potential for at least
a B-grade disaster movie.

Denial-of-service attacks, rampant viruses, terrorist atrocities,
cyber-fraud and money-laundering are just some of the sinister scenarios
that euro program managers are having to factor in to their contingency
plans for the currency changeover.

No one has mentioned a plague of locusts -– for the moment.

"At the time of the recent terror attacks, most enterprises had just about
finalized their preparations for the euro changeover," said Nick Jones, an
analyst and euro implementation expert with the Gartner Group. "Now the
landscape in which this final changeover will occur has changed drastically
and enterprises must revise their plans accordingly."

Jones claims that a similar terrorist attack in Europe during the euro
transition could be particularly disruptive, as could the consequences of
an actual war.

"The introduction of the euro is unprecedented in economic terms, and it
would be naive to think that there won't be individuals or groups who could
try to take advantage of the inevitable confusion stemming from the phasing
out of national currencies," Jones said.

While cyber terrorism is not believed to be a major threat come next
January, denial-of-service or virus attacks targeting Europe's financial
infrastructure and high-profile organizations cannot be ruled out, Jones
warned.

"Enterprises should be prepared for every eventuality," Jones said. "One
can just imagine the potential for chaos if Europe was struck by
denial-of-service attacks or a virus like the Nimda worm at exactly the
time that financial institutions and corporations are depending heavily on
their computer systems. Data could become corrupted during a conversion,
the unavailability of a trading partner's website could prevent end-to-end
testing, or enterprise websites for providing changeover information to
customers and employees could go down," he said.

Noel Hepworth, euro project director with the European Federation of
Accountants (FEE) said that the large number of enterprises -– estimated at
between 20 percent and 40 percent -- that had left their euro conversion
projects until the last minute was a source of concern.

"Viruses or denial-of-service attacks are undoubtedly a worry, but I think
the lack of preparedness from companies is the biggest threat to a smooth
changeover," Hepworth said. "This obviously has serious repercussions for
trade and commerce. These enterprises will be more vulnerable to whatever
problems might arise in the initial changeover period, since they'll be too
busy firefighting to worry about some of the wider concerns of the euro
changeover."

Dennis Keeling, chief executive of BASDA, the Business Application Software
Developers Association, stressed the need for all companies who do business
in Europe to remain vigilant.

"Any company trading with the euro-zone over the next few months will need
to be cautious, particularly if its customers or suppliers are not already
using the euro as a trading currency," Keeling said. "The many businesses
unprepared for the changeover risk collapse, perhaps taking their trading
partners’ money with them."

Others have warned about the massive potential for fraud when the euro
makes its official appearance in the new year.

"The introduction of the euro represents a golden opportunity for organized
crime," said John Abbott, director general of Great Britain’s National
Criminal Intelligence Service (NCIS). "During conversion, from 1 January
2002 to midway through the year, criminals will exploit public, commercial
and institutional confusion to their advantage."

Jay Valentine, ex-CEO of Infoglide Software, knows a thing or two about the
sophistication of online fraudsters; he led the team that built the
real-time cyber-fraud system for auction house eBay. He says that cyber
criminals will be rubbing their hands with glee at the prospect of the euro
changeover.

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experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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[e-gold-list] Re: new reading

[SnowDog]

> Fascinating. On a different subject, has anyone yet heard if they've
> gotten down to the Comex gold/silver which was buried in the attack
> on the WTC? I've seen nothing and it's been a month, but I guess
> they'd only announce finding it AFTER it's fully recovered & secured.

I heard at the beginning of the week that they still have YET to recover
over $200 million in gold, stored by Scotia Mocatta at the World Trade
Center.

SnowDog




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[e-gold-list] Re: new reading

[Jeff Fitzmyers]

> >PS How are all the babies (JP, Julian and Jeff!)?
> 
> My one is good --- but she needs more gold man :)

Glad to hear that! After a bit of a rough (and scary) start, mom and
baby are now doing excellently. We are really lucky that Chloe is a
happy and easy baby (and a great excuse to squirrel away more gold).

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[e-gold-list] SV: First ZKS, now PGP (Network Associates)

[Junk]

Its Intresting - since we work closley with hush
http://www.hush.com/about_hush/media_center/press/28_august_01.shtml

- we know for a fact they have alot of "wood in the fire"  - they are
working very hard in the banking sector in sweden for instance.

With the new services they are going to offer  - For instance the
partnership with Xdrive :
http://www.hush.com/about_hush/media_center/press/17_september_01.shtml

They have alot of "things" happening:))) they will survive...:)) trust
me..:))

Best regards
Patrik Isacsson
CEO
Net-guide.nu / InterActive Networks




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http://www.nai.com/other/jump/customer-faq.asp

It's interesting (to me, anyway...) that Hushmail somehow finds
a way to survive. It's probably just a coincidence Hush accepts
e-gold -- and was the only one that ever did, right? ;^)

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/10/12/0129228&mode=thread

paints a much less rosy picture than the NAI FAQ, of course. I
can't believe they had 300! employees working on it, but that's
what's alleged. Oh well, there's still lots of easy to use crypto
software out there these days, no matter what Network
Associates does with their property, but this is still sad.
JMR


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