[e-gold-list] Re: pool for a share

2003-06-21 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Saturday, June 21, 2003, at 05:19 PM, Sidd wrote:

Patrick wrote:
: Damn, I gotta fund my Dbourse account again and you have to go 
through
: an actual human at the service desk.  I don't dare just spend into 
the
: Dbourse account without giving them a heads-up first.  Besides, they
: still have to fund my share account manually anyway.

Patrick, use Pecunix and give them the heads up in the payment 
field... they
will receive the payment notification e-mail and fund your account... 
their
payment address is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


That's good information.  However, Dbourse is on a funding schedule 
where they only check a couple times per day.  I sent them funds very 
early in the morning yesterday (about 4 o'clock) but didn't get funded 
until about 7 in the evening.  But it was Saturday here, and I was glad 
that they funded on weekends at all.  Just not in time to pick up that 
99 g share though.

-- Patrick

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[e-gold-list] What happened to proxystore.com ?

2003-06-21 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
What happened to proxystore.com?  It's just a placeholder page for an 
empty site now!

http://proxystore.com/

-- Patrick

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[e-gold-list] missed it by that much

2003-06-21 Thread Patrick Chkoreff


Darn, the Dbourse people couldn't fund my account in time for me to buy 
that 99 gram share!  Somebody else beat me to it.

-- Patrick

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[e-gold-list] Re: storm pay

2003-06-21 Thread Ragnar

Gordon,

--- "Gordon H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> just looking for feedback on the below info I found posted on:
> http://paypalsucks.com/options.shtml
> 
> StormPay - Good grief! We had lots of people telling us they
> were great.
> Then today, June 5th 2003, we get an email from someone
> unhappy with
> StormPay. Seems the just changed their TOS in a big way,
> accounts are
> frozen, they claim to no longer accept gold exchanges and the
> site is
> completely different. No longer recommended!

Gold Age investigated StormPay early on.  We were disappointed. 
We do not recommend them.  Besides being a repudiable payment
system similar to PayPal, their principals are dishonest as
well.



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[e-gold-list] Re: New Bourse - a few notes

2003-06-21 Thread Arik Schenkler
Shalom,

> > It looks to me that TGC is offering some kind of bond (if they'll keep
> > paying the promised dividend).
> 
> 
> If it pays a fixed return it's known as Preferred Stock here in the USA.

How much of the business is represented by those shares?
Is this shares? Assume I buy all (or 50.1%), do I own the company?

Arik Schenkler - Chief Money Maker
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[e-gold-list] Daddy, daddy can I nuke the scammer?

2003-06-21 Thread Robert S.Z.
Serious, I don't understand why people get away with attacking exchangers?

We do have some of the best brains subscribe to the list and between Katz
ourselves and a few others we have enough computer power to sink a
continent if we so choose.

A few weeks ago it was AnyGoldNow, recently GoldEx and now Metal-Escrow.
And these are only the more prominent cases we know about. Then come all
those shadowy creatures who set up spoof sites, highjack domains and
whathaveyou.

We are in Cyberspace and if we don't help ourselves and each other, who
will? By the time the cavalary arrives and makes more of a mess tahn
actually helping, the culprits are usually long gone.

As a host, I can tell you that we let a lot of stuff happen, because we
rarely look. After all, we are not the police and it's a free country and
all. But if someone spams he's off the box faster than he can click
"Send". And if he's messing with IP spoofing, runs an open scam that tries
to steal pass words or similar, then we have the nasty habit of
confiscating his domain name and send him packing unless he provides sworn
affidavits, certified IDs etc.

Now, why doesn't anyone hit people who waste exchangers' time where it
hurts them the most? Resetting a BIOS or two, mail bombing his provider,
frying a hard drive, etc. You'd be surprised how fast exchangers get a
reputation of 'not be messed with'.

How about it? Anyone up for a GoldPosse.org?

Not that I'm saying I endorse lynch justice, because that would be
illegal, of course... To think that I'm a pacifist...

Cheers,
Robert.

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[e-gold-list] Re: New Bourse - a few notes

2003-06-21 Thread Craig Spencer
On 21 Jun 2003, at 18:51, Cambist.net wrote:

> > From: Arik Schenkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > 
> > It looks to me that TGC is offering some kind of bond (if they'll
> > keep paying the promised dividend).
> 
> If it pays a fixed return it's known as Preferred Stock here in the
> USA.

A bond, anywhere, has a fixed return and would have a date at which 
it matures and repays the principal.  TGC "stock" doesn't do that.
The dividends on a preferred stock would be obliged to be paid prior 
to any distribution to the owners of the business.  If TGC "stock"
does that it is not public knowledge. 

Best,

CCS


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[e-gold-list] Re: New Bourse - a few notes

2003-06-21 Thread Cambist.net


> From: Arik Schenkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 14:41:52 +0200
> To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: New Bourse - a few notes
> 

> 
> It looks to me that TGC is offering some kind of bond (if they'll keep
> paying the promised dividend).


If it pays a fixed return it's known as Preferred Stock here in the USA.



- John
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[e-gold-list] Re: Newbie Alert: Anybody Still Accepting Credit Cards?

2003-06-21 Thread Admin
we do accept credit cards

marco
www.paybygold.com


- Original Message - 
From: "Frank Mottley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 1:18 AM
Subject: [e-gold-list] Newbie Alert: Anybody Still Accepting Credit Cards?


> Haven't heard this oldie in a while, but a new-to-e-gold person asked me
> today ow to fund his account with a credit card.  I told him I was pretty
> sure he was s.o.l. but that I would ask, just in case anybody on the list
is
> still accepting them for in-exchanges.
>
>
> Anyone?


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[e-gold-list] Newbie Alert: Anybody Still Accepting Credit Cards?

2003-06-21 Thread Frank Mottley
Haven't heard this oldie in a while, but a new-to-e-gold person asked me 
today ow to fund his account with a credit card.  I told him I was pretty 
sure he was s.o.l. but that I would ask, just in case anybody on the list is 
still accepting them for in-exchanges.

Anyone?

Frank  

"With numbing regularity good people were seen to knuckle under the demands 
of authority and perform actions that were callous and severe. Men who are 
in everyday life responsible and decent were seduced by the trappings of 
authority, by the control of their perceptions, and by the uncritical 
acceptance of the experimenter's definition of the situation, into 
performing harsh acts. .A substantial proportion of people do what they are 
told to do, irrespective of the content of the act and without limitations 
of conscience, so long as they perceive that the command comes from a 
legitimate authority."

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[e-gold-list] Re: Metal-Escrow

2003-06-21 Thread Joris Bontje
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On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 10:39:52AM +1200, Sidd wrote:
> Metal-Escrow is also about to re-launch with integrated PGP security
> (another world first)... and other enhancements. We are currently also
> planning another major innovation to the IG exchange paradigm. This will be
> finalised after our feasibility studies are completed in a few weeks, and
> could become reality before the end of the year.

I am glad to see that metal-escrow / Pecunix takes security serious, too
bad that it is only one of the rare parties that does so in DGC-land.

Thanks,
Joris Bontje
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[e-gold-list] Re: Metal-Escrow

2003-06-21 Thread Sidd
: On Friday, June 20, 2003, at 06:10 PM, PrivaGold wrote:
: > Just curious if anyone knows anything about Metal-Escrow.com?
:
: Patrick Wrote:
: I know that their automated currency exchange ROCKS!
:
: http://metal-escrow.com/c_c.cfm
: You can swap between Pecunix, Goldmoney, and E-gold.
:
: They also have a metal to metal exchange:
: http://metal-escrow.com/m_m.cfm
:
: This lets you swap between e-gold, e-silver, e-platinum, and
: e-palladium.
:

Yes, thanks Patrick, they do ROCK! Metal-Escrow has the longest running auto
exchange on the internet (although it was not the first one). It is THE
FAST,RELIABLE, ECONOMICAL AND SECURE WAY TO INTERCHANGE CURRENCIES. We are
currently working to add e-bullion to the currencies on offer, and soon
after that 1mdc.

Metal-Escrow is also about to re-launch with integrated PGP security
(another world first)... and other enhancements. We are currently also
planning another major innovation to the IG exchange paradigm. This will be
finalised after our feasibility studies are completed in a few weeks, and
could become reality before the end of the year.

The recent dbourse discussions have been interesting... as you may know,
Pecunix was funded through the Private Venture Capital Stock Exchange
http://pvcse.com beginning over 2 years ago. It was in fact exactly what The
Gold Casino are doing now on dbourse, the only difference being that there
was no web trading floor, the trades were done manually.

Pecunix has been planning a second round of share sales to raise capital for
marketing and business development. This is to be done through an online
trading floor such as dbourse. Perhaps we will approach dbourse and ask them
to list Pecunix ...

The PVCSE platform will also allow funding directly from your Pecunix
account...

Regards,

Sidd.


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[e-gold-list] Re: Metal-escrow

2003-06-21 Thread Sidd
- Original Message - 
From: "PrivaGold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


: Well another message received - Sidd, thought you might want to see this.
: Has anyone else received emails like this?
:
: ***
: Dear [EMAIL PROTECTED],
:
: You've got cash!
:
: Stephen Stowell just sent you money with PayPal.
:
: --
: Payment Details
: --


Yes, we also received this, even though we don't have a paypal account... if
you received this message, and do use paypal, I would suggest you contact
paypal and refuse the payment (if any). There is no doubt that the money for
the payment comes from stolen credit cards and if you accept the payment you
will find your account frozen soon. The moral is "Don't Use PayPal!"

It astounds me how much time these idiot thieves and scammers waste trying
to upset the business of the various exchangers they attack! It shows how
very stupid they actually are.

We stopped this thief from completing a fraudulent transaction and now he
wastes immense amounts of his time with this nonsense... Obviously he is too
stupid to realise that all the time he spends on this ridiculous attack is
time he could be setting up other scams and stealing money... our business
is not really affected by this nonsense, and we will certainly not stop
preventing theft if we see it, so what can the thief possibly gain from this
attack?

I guess we should all be glad he is so stupid, as long as he is wasting his
time on us, he can't be stealing from the rest of you... Metal-Escrow is
happy to provide this service to the gold economy :-)

Regards,

Sidd.




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[e-gold-list] Re: Metal-escrow

2003-06-21 Thread Sidd
- Original Message - 
From: "PrivaGold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


: OK Now it is getting interesting.
: I just received 3 different emails.
: 1 supposedly from Metal-Escrow and the others supposedly from Pecunix.

Looking at the headers of the e-mails you posted, it is clear that the
messages did come from metal-escrow and pecunix... note that they originated
on the siddley.net network.

If you take the time to read the e-mail, you will see that the messages
tells you that you have received a pecunix payment... check your pecunix
account and you will see the payment there...

The payment was made through the metal-escrow auto exchange and came from EG
account 311166... I am sure that e-gold will be taking a look at that
account soon, since this person is violating the e-gold antispam rule.

So yes, you did receive those e-mails from our network, but you have
actually been paid to receive them... it is unlikely that the criminal will
continue to pay to send you e-mail, and if he does... well perhaps you will
get rich...

OR, here is an interesting fact:

The initiating IP address for the exchange in question was 198.104.131.196,
and the privagold IP address is 161.58.223.246. These are both on the Verio
network... is this merely a coincidence? Network Whois records below.

Sidd.


Network Whois record
Querying whois.arin.net with "198.104.131.196"...

OrgName:Verio, Inc.
OrgID:  VRIO
Address:8005 South Chester Street
Address:Suite 200
City:   Englewood
StateProv:  CO
PostalCode: 80112
Country:US

NetRange:   198.104.0.0 - 198.104.255.255
CIDR:   198.104.0.0/16
NetName:VRIO-198-104
NetHandle:  NET-198-104-0-0-1
Parent: NET-198-0-0-0-0
NetType:Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS0.VERIO.NET
NameServer: NS1.VERIO.NET
NameServer: NS2.VERIO.NET
Comment:ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
etc.


Network Whois record
Querying whois.arin.net with "161.58.223.246"...

OrgName:Verio, Inc.
OrgID:  VRIO
Address:8005 South Chester Street
Address:Suite 200
City:   Englewood
StateProv:  CO
PostalCode: 80112
Country:US

NetRange:   161.58.0.0 - 161.58.255.255
CIDR:   161.58.0.0/16
NetName:VRIO-161-058
NetHandle:  NET-161-58-0-0-1
Parent: NET-161-0-0-0-0
NetType:Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS0.VERIO.NET
NameServer: NS1.VERIO.NET
NameServer: NS2.VERIO.NET
Comment:
Comment:Reassignment information for this block is
Comment:available at rwhois.verio.net port 4321
Comment:


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[e-gold-list] Re: pool for a share

2003-06-21 Thread Sidd
"Patrick Chkoreff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

: Damn, I gotta fund my Dbourse account again and you have to go through
: an actual human at the service desk.  I don't dare just spend into the
: Dbourse account without giving them a heads-up first.  Besides, they
: still have to fund my share account manually anyway.

Patrick, use Pecunix and give them the heads up in the payment field... they
will receive the payment notification e-mail and fund your account... their
payment address is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cheers,

Sidd.


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[e-gold-list] FREE Shipping from Shop With Gold!

2003-06-21 Thread Shop With Gold
Shop With Gold is currently offering free shipping on all orders.

www.shopwithgold.com

Blessings,
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[e-gold-list] storm pay

2003-06-21 Thread Gordon H.


just looking for feedback on the below info I found posted on:
http://paypalsucks.com/options.shtml

StormPay - Good grief! We had lots of people telling us they were great.
Then today, June 5th 2003, we get an email from someone unhappy with
StormPay. Seems the just changed their TOS in a big way, accounts are
frozen, they claim to no longer accept gold exchanges and the site is
completely different. No longer recommended!

The "C" company - (aka citibank) Participated in PayPal's IPO and demanded
ALL mention of the "C" company to be removed for this site. Their reason:
"Advertiser is using damaging language regarding our competitor" Read the
thread here .

Firepay - too many negative emails/comments 

Ikobo - Read the thread here . Make up your own mind. 

Yahoo - Intent on ruling the world. Don't worry though, their system is so
kludgy, no one will use it.

GoldMoney - Nice site, nice layout. Good ideas. But you have to snail-mail
them certified copies of your passport and utility bills before you can do
anything in their system. They are in the Bahamas. I'm sure your customers
won't mind a bit!Oh, they do pattern themselves after PayPal in another
way: They can freeze your account at any time for any reason. Quote:
"GoldMoney may in its entire discretion cancel this Agreement and
terminate the User's rights and obligations in terms of this Agreement,
for any reason whatsoever, including, without limiting the extent of the
aforegoing, any breach of this Agreement by the User."

The post office has a plan too, but there's a monthly fee and I don't
recall it being easy for the customer.

Western Union also has a program, but it's another kludge. 

We really are scratching our heads... Don't any of these companies know
the real potential here? e-gold has been around for years, and look where
they have gone? GoldMoney even compares themselves to PayPal, but they
miss the boat by a mile. I gotta hand it to PayPal. In terms of "ease of
use" for the customer, they win hands down.


Gordon H.
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[e-gold-list] Re: Metal-escrow

2003-06-21 Thread PrivaGold
OK Now it is getting interesting.

I just received 3 different emails.

1 supposedly from Metal-Escrow and the others supposedly from Pecunix.

Here is the first email with header info:

Received: from mail.siddley.net (mail.siddley.net [210.54.148.4]) 
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 08:26:02 -0600 (MDT)
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from ([])
by mail.siddley.net (Sendmail 8.12.5 ) with SMTP id 84E8BA1A
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 14:25:54 -
Content-type: text/plain
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 14:25:42 +
From: Metal-Escrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Importance: High
Subject: Your Metal-Escrow currency exchange details.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-mailer: Siddley Inc.
X-msmail-priority: High
X-priority: 1
X-UIDL: P)^"!]ZU"!%II!!~Z?"!


Thank you for using the metal-escrow.com instant gold currency exchange!

Your Spend to the metal-escrow.com currency exchange: 
Batch#: 18589653   ref: 249841758
Value: 0.0087 grams of e-gold

Commission and spend fees paid by: payee 
Our commission: 0.00% (0.00 grams)
EG fees: 0.0001 grams
PX fees: 0. grams

The total spend to Pecunix account ID [EMAIL PROTECTED] including
fees:
Batch#:  5054ref: 249841758
Value: 0.0086 grams of Pecunix

If you have any questions about this transaction please contact us 


Our PGP key is here: https://metal-escrow.com/pgp_key.cfm
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://metal-escrow.com

Metal-escrow.com is a a Pecunix PREO (Preferred Retail Exchange 
Organisation) and an e-gold AGIO (accredited gold interchange operator).

copyright 2001 metal-escrow.com - all rights reserved.
**


Now you tell me where the above came from?


Here is the 2nd email:

Received: from mail.siddley.net (mail.siddley.net [210.54.148.4]) 
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 08:26:05 -0600 (MDT)
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from ([])
by mail.siddley.net (Sendmail 8.12.5 ) with SMTP id 84E8BA1A
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 14:25:52 -
Content-type: text/plain
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 14:25:40 +
From: PECUNIX Payments <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Importance: High
Subject: You've received a Pecunix payment!
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-mailer: PECUNIX-Money.Refined
X-msmail-priority: High
X-priority: 1
X-UIDL: 4eZ!!N![!!j5Z!!~02"!

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Go shopping today!http://Garzoo.com

Payment Details
Receipt Id: 5054
Date: 2003-06-21 14:25:42
TransferId: 249841758

Payee: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Payer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Payer Name: Metal-Escrow Auto Exchange 

Amount: 0.0086 GAU
Fee: 0.
Fee paid by: Payee  
Metal-Escrow.com exchange EG to PX - 249841758

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Still using siddley.net

The 3rd email also from "pecunix" is the same except for amount.

To add to this, I also received 4 e-gold list account setting emails.
Supposedly sent "as I requested"  I never requested anything.

Ian
PrivaGold




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[e-gold-list] E-gold Excess!!

2003-06-21 Thread Guido Farrugia


Hi All,

We have too much e-gold at the moment and are willing to sell amounts of
$10,000 or over at just 0.5 over spot.  Anyone who needs e-gold please
contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Guido


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[e-gold-list] Re: Metal-escrow

2003-06-21 Thread Robert S.Z.
Yep, I got the same thing.
How stupid can people be? I mean why would anybody remotely affiliated
with the gold community use PayPal? Hence, why would anybody believe the
mail?

Anyway, this one came from safe-mail.net, so it's a mere nuisance.

Cheers,
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[e-gold-list] Re: Metal-Escrow

2003-06-21 Thread David Ewaku

Hullo Everyone

I also got the email from Stephen. What could be going
on?


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[e-gold-list] Re: Metal-escrow

2003-06-21 Thread PrivaGold
Sorry meant to include message header:


Received: from smtp2.nix.paypal.com (smtp2.nix.paypal.com [65.206.228.75])
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sat, 21 Jun 2003 06:55:23 -0600 (MDT)
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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 05:55:11 -0700
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Thank you for support metal-escrow
X-UIDL: HLG!!9<$"!'+c!!/aO!!


PrivaGold




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[e-gold-list] Re: Metal-escrow

2003-06-21 Thread PrivaGold
Well another message received - Sidd, thought you might want to see this. 
Has anyone else received emails like this?

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Dear [EMAIL PROTECTED],

You've got cash!

Stephen Stowell just sent you money with PayPal.

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Payment Details
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Amount: EUR 10.00
Subject: Thank you for support metal-escrow

Note:
Thanks !


Simply click https://www.paypal.com/links/uni and complete 
PayPal's one-page registration form to claim your money. For a 
limited time, if you sign up and complete the bonus requirements, 
you will receive a $5 New Account Bonus.

You may withdraw your money at any time by requesting a check
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send the money to your friends.

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For more information about PayPal, go to:

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Welcome to PayPal!

The PayPal Team

Note: If you are already a PayPal member, click the link below to 
add and confirm this email address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) so 
this payment can be credited to your account.

https://www.paypal.com/EMAIL-ADD



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[e-gold-list] Re: pool for a share

2003-06-21 Thread Robert S.Z.
> 
> Anyway, I suppose the DBourse folks will answer this
> and other questions eventually. (MP poker, anyone?)
>
Hello JM,

Joel (www.gold-price.net) says he talked to DBourse/TGC and they are cool
with it. I guess it always depends on 'who' is setting up a pool or fund
;o)

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[e-gold-list] Re: pool for a share

2003-06-21 Thread James M. Ray
At 5:26 PM -0500 6/20/03, Jim Davidson wrote:
>Dear Friends,
>
>Some of you may have concluded that the excellent
>opportunity of buying a share of The Gold Casino
>at dBourse was great, but out of reach due to the
>100 gg price.  If you are interested in pooling...

...
While this might be a good idea, there could be some
issues for DBourse with shareholder-confidentiality. As
TGC itself has said, casinos are secretive and don't
wish to give info to their competitors. (Of course, a real
competitor could just pony-up 100 grams and buy a
whole share, I guess!)

Anyway, I suppose the DBourse folks will answer this
and other questions eventually. (MP poker, anyone?)
JMR

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[e-gold-list] Re: Metal-escrow

2003-06-21 Thread PrivaGold
I am done with it - On a positive note the users ISP has cancelled the
perpetrator's account.

My open apology to metal-escrow.

PrivaGold




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[e-gold-list] Golden opportunity with largest e-commerce portal of Asia

2003-06-21 Thread Yog Yatry
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[e-gold-list] Re: Metal-escrow

2003-06-21 Thread Admin
From: "PrivaGold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Sidd, Robert,
>
> I am not going to let you flip this back on me.  I didn't send the email I
> received over 12.  In addition I had 4 people look at the emails and they
> all came from the same place!

Right, they all came from the same place, except it was NOT from
Metal-Escrow, was it?? Is it so difficult to say : "Sorry folks, I was
wrong?"

How would YOU feel if some creep starting sending insulting abusive emails
to the whole universe forging your email address???
I have gone through this and it is not pleasant, so I think you should
either admit you did jump the gun, or stop insinuating that the mail did
come from the folks at Metal-Escrow, else we may start thinking you do have
an hidden agenda .??

marco
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>
> Robert - forgive my first post in which I merely questioned
> Metal-Escrow...next time I will be sure to just jump straight to the
> point.
>
> I have done nothing but report what I have experienced.
>
> You people are unreal.
>
> PrivaGold


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[e-gold-list] Re: Metal-escrow

2003-06-21 Thread PrivaGold
Sidd, Robert,

I am not going to let you flip this back on me.  I didn't send the email I
received over 12.  In addition I had 4 people look at the emails and they
all came from the same place!

Robert - forgive my first post in which I merely questioned
Metal-Escrow...next time I will be sure to just jump straight to the
point.

I have done nothing but report what I have experienced.

You people are unreal.

PrivaGold




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[e-gold-list] Re: pool for a share

2003-06-21 Thread Robert S.Z.
I got sun-burnt from sitting in the shine of my own glory :o)

Serious, the clearing platform is the thing that makes your 'form' work.
Of course, it does a bit more than that, but taken down to it's simplest
funtion, then a clearing system is exactly what you described.

Now, imagine that members of the 'pools or funds' would be able to deposit
into a 'brokerage' account which in turn credits the member's account and
passes the funds straight through to DBourse.

The imagine brokerages are starting deal directly with and for their
clients. One wants to buy 15 shares at 110gg another wants to sell 20 at
108gg or better.
The brokerage gives 15 of the 20 to the buyer, pockets the difference and
places the remaining 5 shares on the open market.

All this is tedious, prone to human error and so not error-related
disappointments which wasn't necesary if a clearing platform was inn place
into which proprietary trading desks could be plugged.

I better go and get some sun screen and an umbrella before the nay sayers
log in.

Cheers,
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[e-gold-list] Re: promising new cover blurb - letdown in content...

2003-06-21 Thread Robert S.Z.
> 
> off to write a letter to the editor...
> 
So, will you post the letter you sent the editor? Might be the type of
thing good to have 'in stock' for when clients ask endless questions.
Which reminds me, any plans to at least have the public areas of e-gold
translated into a few other major languages?
Spanish, Chinese, Arabic, Suaheli, just to name a few of the largest
growth markets...

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[e-gold-list] Re: pool for a share

2003-06-21 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Saturday, June 21, 2003, at 03:13 AM, Robert S.Z. wrote:


So that's the first glaringly obvious feature Dbourse needs -- direct,
immediate, automated funding.  I bet they'd sell more shares quicker
that way.
Patrick,
Don't say you are saying that they need "A CLEARING PLATFORM / SYSTEM" 
???
Which would be the exact thing I said when they first CBourse first
announced the begin of trading.
Gosh, don't know about them fancy terms, I'm just talking about a web 
form and a stinkin' link to the e-gold (or 1mdc) spend page.  Then 
their server validates the payment hash and credits your account.

Is that a clearing platform / system?  Then by golly, you're right!  
And why I am I not surprised?  Robert S. Z. is quite a brilliant 
fellow, and I don't mean that sarcastically.


At the time most supporters were rather unhappy about my remark...
I wasn't unhappy, I just didn't understand.  Now I do.  Although I fear 
I'm being flippant and there's a lot more to it I don't know.  :-(  But 
until then, yeah, a web form and a link to e-gold (or 1mdc) spend page 
would be great!

Of course, there also needs to be a way to remove residual unspent 
funds from a dbourse account back to e-gold (or 1mdc).  You know, like 
if I had 100 g in there and then bought JP's 99g share, an automated 
way to pick up my 1g in change.


It sure feels good to be right.
So that's what this "clearing" thing is all about then!

It sure feels good to have a fancy new term for such a prosaic 
function.  I thought "clearing" was some strange NYSE-style magic that 
had to happen at precisely 16:45 ET each day to "settle accounts" or 
some primitive dinosauric style thing like that.

-- Patrick

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[e-gold-list] Re: pool for a share

2003-06-21 Thread Robert S.Z.
> So that's the first glaringly obvious feature Dbourse needs -- direct, 
> immediate, automated funding.  I bet they'd sell more shares quicker 
> that way.
> 
Patrick,
Don't say you are saying that they need "A CLEARING PLATFORM / SYSTEM" ???
Which would be the exact thing I said when they first CBourse first
announced the begin of trading.

At the time most supporters were rather unhappy about my remark...

It sure feels good to be right.

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[e-gold-list] Re: pool for a share

2003-06-21 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Saturday, June 21, 2003, at 02:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Well, I'd say it's as close to eating your cake and having it too as 
it
gets.
The reason I didn't jump in yet was the expected drop in the spot 
price.
An outstanding point Robert.  You ROCK!

I had not, really, thought of the effect of POG on demand for 
DBOURSE:TGC until you mentioned it, i must say


My sentiment exactly -- it never even occurred to me.  That's because I 
already had the gold grams for the share purchase.  If I had to wire in 
some USD to buy the gold grams first, I'd be thinking exactly as Robert 
described in his previous email.


No one has bought my 99 gram share yet!
Damn, I gotta fund my Dbourse account again and you have to go through 
an actual human at the service desk.  I don't dare just spend into the 
Dbourse account without giving them a heads-up first.  Besides, they 
still have to fund my share account manually anyway.

So that's the first glaringly obvious feature Dbourse needs -- direct, 
immediate, automated funding.  I bet they'd sell more shares quicker 
that way.

-- Patrick

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[e-gold-list] Re: pool for a share

2003-06-21 Thread Robert S.Z.
Thanks for the flowers :o) At times like this my parents must appreciate
all the cash they blew on my education...
> 
> I had not, really, thought of the effect of POG on demand for 
> DBOURSE:TGC until you mentioned it, i must say
> 
Oh, does that mean I get a higher percentage on 1MDC lodgements in future?
> 
> No one has bought my 99 gram share yet!
> 
I wonder hoe DBourse feels about private trades :p 
I'd let you take 99gg off a 1MDC depositjust to make you happy. Maybe in a
couple of days I'd let you have the share back at 101gg :o)

Did you realize, that in theory you could use 'some' shares to back 1MDC
term lodgements? It's still gold after all... I know, I know, you'd never
do it, but you 'could', you know.

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[e-gold-list] Re: Metal-escrow

2003-06-21 Thread Robert S.Z.
Hasn't it appeard to anyone that it's pretty strange how PrivaIan first
asks for info, then bad mouthes and then starts talking about the email?
I mean, we all know that it's somewhat questionable that of nine feedbacks
about metal-escrow.com 6 would be bad, innit?

And if indeed Ian was wondering about metal-escrow (so shortly after there
was a post and brief discussion about one of our hosting clients) because
of negative feed back, why didn't he mention the feedback right away, or
the email, for that matter?

No ruling entered or judgement made. 
Just the thoughts of an innocent bystander :o)

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