[e-gold-list] How is the market in Brazil
Looks like Brazil is trying to stop laundering. below is some stuff snipped from http://www.narconews.com/Issue30/article803.html Item 2 might be a motivator for people to get an e-gold account instead. They have until June 25. cya, Andrew... According to the Attorney General, this problem tackles the true power behind organized crime. We have to create a culture against money laundering in Brazil, he said. For this to happen, we have to make our efforts more productive and efficient. Its a long job ahead. The plan is composed with twelve measures, of which the first four were announced at a press conference last Tuesday: 1) Banks must notify the Central Bank of all deposits or withdrawals over $100,000 Reals (slightly over $30,000 US dollars); 2) The creation of a general registry of bank accounts; 3) A new Department of Recuperation of Illicit Profits, and; 4) The restructuring of the Council of Control of Financial Activities (COAF, in its Portuguese initials). Henrique Meirelles emphasized the ethical commitment of the Central Bank toward the legality of the origin of funds that circulate in the banks. These measures will affect barely a thousand bank transactions a day from a universe of 120,000 bank accounts, and only on transactions of this species, so as not to harm the common citizen, he added. The measures have already been published in the Official Record of the government, and according to Justice Department official Cláudia Chagas they will take effect in 15 days (by June 25th). All cases of suspected money laundering that come under the Justice Ministers scrutiny will be dealt with rapidly. And the focus will be on the largest transactions. The rest of the 12 new measures will be announced on a yet undetermined date. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: gold giveaway madness
At the risk of not getting a lump, I must say I am not all that amazed. I probably would trust jpm more than whatever checking equifax did. I am amazed that so much gold is being given away, such enthusiasim! I truely wish I could afford to give as much away. I am also a little surprised that it is taking so long to be soaked up. 1MDC, gotta love it. 188428amc should you feel then need to send me a gram, disclaimer- I'm not a new account. cya, Andrew... SIX of the TEN 1mdc prizes of one gram of free gold have been given away. that means four to go! free gold! PS: as a 1mdc wish list, could you show a total number somewhere of all 1mdc holdings so it can be compared to how much is in the e-gold account, just like bamdex? Also what about having accounts that need not specify an e-gold account, as more and more use 1mdc, it could end up that some people never even want to open an e-gold account. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] electronic parts by proxy (Australia)
Just a post to see if anyone would want to make use of buying electronic parts using e-gold. Places I frequent are. http://members.iinet.net.au/~worcom/ http://www.jaycar.com.au http://www.altronics.com.au/ and http://www.dse.com.au/ Customs is probably painfull but you never know, so primarily looking to see if there are any ozzies with gold who need bits. cya,Andrew... --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Malaysian e-gold walk-in funding needed
I Have someone in Malaysia who needs to just get a couple of grams into e-gold. Does anyone have some details I can pass along? e-dinar.com 's business page seemd very blank and I am trying to avoid any wire fees etc... cya, Andrew... --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Independant media vheadline.com now takes e-gold (691509)
Worth reading what about what happens by people actually there, they now take e-gold (although not on their web page yet). I urge everyone to throw a couple of bucks their way to keep the independent news flowing. e-metal® payment confirmation: Batch 10428347 Paid To: 691509 (VHeadline.com Venezuela) cya,Andrew... --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Sites using e-gold
I have done well on bamdex but I feel kind of guilty about it. Would be better if I could suck money off lots of people rather than just the few that trade now and then. Out of many trades I have never lost (except to myself ;) many apologies to those less cautious, I am spending your money well! cya, Andrew... Has anyone had any experience with either the $1000 gold contract website bamdex.com or xodds.com that they would like to comment on? Thanks B Pate http://two-cents-worth.com/?109406EG --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-gold.com/stats.html lets you observe the e-gold system's activity now!
[e-gold-list] Metal coins evil (if not precious metals that is)
Since th Euro is flavour of the month, here is a reason not to taste it ;) http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/nm/20011126/od/eurocoins_dc_1.html STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - Two of the eight euro coins due to come into circulation in January release so much nickel that people allergic to the metal could develop hand eczema, according to a study obtained by Reuters on Friday. Just five minutes of contact with one-euro (88 U.S. cents) and two-euro coins containing nickel alloy could trigger symptoms, including skin inflammation or itching, the study by a Swedish dermatologist and British laboratory scientist said. cya, Andrew... --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-gold.com/stats.html lets you observe the e-gold system's activity now!
[e-gold-list] Bank Correspondent Accounts, gold, U.S. Treasury
New banking guidlines are out at http://www.treas.gov/press/releases/po813.htm In an attempt to prevent terrorists from moving money. While aimed at deposit taking banks, the general aim is to kill anything that aids money movement from US banks to 'shell banks' here is a quote at the end The Treasury Department intends to issue expeditiously a proposed rule that would also prohibit broker-dealers from maintaining accounts with foreign shell banks and from using accounts to provide banking services indirectly to such shell banks. Treasury also intends to propose a rule requiring broker-dealers to keep records of the owners of foreign banks to which they provide accounts and the foreign banks' agents for service of legal process. Could gold based systems be viewed as 'indirectly' providing banking services? cryptome http://cryptome.org/treas112001.htm also has a copy with a bit more info. cya, Andrew... http://two-cents-worth.com/?188428EG --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-gold.com/stats.html lets you observe the e-gold system's activity now!
[e-gold-list] Re: How Penny Per Page Might Work
snip CONCLUSION: To really do something about untraceability you need to be untraceable. Draw this graph I outlined. Think about where the markets are for tools for privacy and untraceability. Realize that many of the far out' sweet spot applications are not necessarily immoral: think of freedom fighters For sweetspot applications that are considered immoral in *any* place in the world then you get at least a potential problem for those that promote/encourage/use depending on the reach and proportional power of those offended in communist-controlled regimes, think of distribution of birth control information in Islamic countries, think of Jews hiding their assets in Swiss bank accounts, think of revolutionaries overthrowing bad governments, think of people avoiding unfair or confiscatory taxes, think of people selling their expertise when some guild says they are forbidden to. I can think of evil 'guilds' that should be defied yet how do you protect against them when they have increadibly large power? It is these very large 'guilds' that object, they notice even if the ones you are truely against are smaller and powerless. Most of all, think about why so many efforts to sort of deploy digital cash or untraceability tools have essentially failed due to a failure of nerve, a failure to go for the brass ring. - steve Traffic analysis is the bamboo spike in the bottom of the financial crypto pit, find a way to avoid the spike, win the prize. Remember you might only want to beat the small bad guys, but you must also be able to beat the biggest because they wont be on your side. cya, Andrew... --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-gold.com/stats.html lets you observe the e-gold system's activity now!
[e-gold-list] sale sale sale
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ok its not much of a sale but here goes. In order to convince the author that e-gold can get some transactions I'll refund my cut on the first 2 e-gold purchases at http://welcome.to/annebrabant 'The Pawn' is a romantic thriller set in Australia. review the first chapter free. Then if you like buy and get a copy by e-mail. Complete book is a 1.4M PDF costing AUS$6 (about US$3 and only about US$2.40 for the first two purchases by e-gold right now thats just a quarter of a gram!) Even if you don't buy, I'd still like to know if anything about the site sucks and needs fixing, colour scheme is the book authors not mine ;) cya,Andrew... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBO6/q3rGgm4xSOhJaEQIdOgCggTLn+Ca0AN/JmkxGUNrzoaqiUGIAoO03 ODQH120U5bCPKnwIomUWTJa+ =E83P -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that you can spend e-gold to help the victims of terror at: http://www.freedomhound.com:80/servlet/echannel?Request=RenderID=443149Data=1292
[e-gold-list] transit numbers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Folks, e-gold account http://www.e-gold.com/pub-bal.asp?pubid=313216 is collecting donations for an ICANN Individuals Constituancy. Someone has offered funds but needs an exchanger that can provide a transit number for electronic transfer. Could someone who can offer as close to zero fees as possible please facilitate this exchange by emailing me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with banking details, this is a good cause (more net.fair.representation ) This particular donar is located in Grapevine Texas, just in case there is someone nearby. cya, Andrew... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBO18jELGgm4xSOhJaEQK+rACbBw6yPk4C704g4Ya9Gi2tlT876B4AoNe0 l75GRZj3aCYVJ5SGmy+iaebP =ELWZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: IFGETD contract
Perhaps this might encourage e-gold to update their exchange rates on a more regular basis (every hour?) The big problem with Bamdex is it is stopping me from going home because I am stuck to this computer watching the gold price and checking to see when e-gold will update. Something automatic somewhere is needed... I am also wondering how bamdex makes any money out of this setup? cya,Andrew... Right -- I think they do tend to change it a couple of times during the day actually (or, maybe that's just what i've noticed the last few days) e-gold usually changes their exchanges rates an avg. of 11 times a day. Then there are times when e-gold's rates don't change for days at a time. http://www.e-gold.com/unsecure/metaldata.asp Viking Coder Worth Two Cents? http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?VikingCoder --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] China and Gold
A while back was some rumors about the gold situation in China. here is a link (registration required, but joecypher and a password of cypherpunk, works ;) http://biz.scmp.com/ZZZX15R7EOC.html quick bit of interestJust over a week ago, as part of its ongoing deregulation drive, the government began setting gold prices on a weekly basis. This replaced the previous policy of resetting prices every six months, a system that had allowed large gaps between international and domestic prices to develop and encouraged exports. For the past 50 years, gold trading has been controlled strictly by the central People's Bank of China, which requires gold producers to sell their output to the PBOC at fixed prices. Analysts estimate that with deregulation, annual demand in China could triple to as much as 600 tonnes within the next few years, a volume that could pressure producers, judging by the planned output of 175 tonnes for this year. Growing affluence in the richer coastal cities, which has driven up sales of gold jewellery, has also squeezed demand for the metal. PS:Thanks to all who offered to help out with the MS-gold the winning bid was 4.015g for 4.015g --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: technocash
Is technocash an account based system or digital cash? Does anybody know anyone who works at Technocash? Closer to digital cash, you can do splits and joins. you could treat it like an account by keeping all the value in one chunk and password protected, but its not really. Spend me a couple of bucks if you want to play with some. cya,Andrew... --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Metalsavings
Does anyone have the name and e-mail address for the operator of metalsavings.com? I have not had luck contacting him lately, but have collected a fair bit of info. I think metal savings is a good idea, but it has never been properly launched. It has always been in a constant state of beta-release. Once you start to dig its amazing the names that turn up with possibly co-incidental associations. People seem to have full confidence in MS long term as I was able to get my full amount out through a helpful soul ;) Probably not so good short term if you need to get in touch with them in a hurry. cya, Andrew... --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: MetalSavings withdrawals
I notice that MetalSavings has zero in its account, so that withdrawals are obviously impossible. Isn't zero a rather slim reserve? I would have thought twenty to fifty percent would be more like it. I agree, it has been at zero for a while now. Would anyone more patient than me like to make an offer on 4.015g I have stuck in metalsavings? cya, Andrew... --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: it is likely that messages in spends are not the answer for General Electric
Since it is impossible to *make* some one read a message (mail filters always evolve) never mind act on it, the best that can be done is to *buy* attention. If you offer enough money to e-gold users you will get your moneys worth of attention. I suggest someone sets up a big list where everyone who wants to recieve gold can stick their account number in, perhaps a bonus amount for email/personal details. If its not opt-in its not going to work. Then make that 0.10 ounce spend to say 99 accounts (not too expensive if you are trying to build up a list of suckers^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hcustomers) offering free gold for their clicks. If you build it they will come. Some of them any way. The rest will say leave me alone as is their right. No one could possible object to someone wanting their privacy could they? account 188428 is more than happy to recieve 50Kg of gold. I don't however promise to follow any link to claim it ;) cya, Andrew... It won't happen until there is a way to reach e-gold users. I shall have to remember that when you say reach or announce you do not mean only get a message to but also make them read it and act on it. CCS --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] My Vistit to the Perth Mint
Well I finally got around to dropping in on the Perth Mint. after looking over the various bars and coins I ended up buying a gramms of 99.99% gold (0.03 oz) in three little lumps. I then found a slightly unpleasent surprise, precious metals in Australia are now only GST exempt in they are coins or have the '' stamped on them, so instead of paying 1% over spot I got lumped with a 10% tax on top. Still, pretty yellow lumps. Got to save up for one of the bars now. Just thought I'd share the experience with everyone. cya, Andrew... PS:metalsavings keeps saying they have no gold to do withdrawals with lately, am I just logging on at bad times? --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: FAGWANE
Perth Mint (perthmint.com) has unallocated storage with no agio, but a fee for re-issuing ownership certificates whenever the amount has to change. http://perthmint.com/depository/pmcp/product.shtml I really need to go and visit these guys and see how hard it is set up. I am however thinking of keeping a couple of bars of lead in my garage, if anyone wants to invest in lead I will not charge any agio (I doubt anyone would even think of stealing it) and transaction fees will be small ;) unfortunately buying lead incures GST but I will bail bars in if you ship them to me. (1 gram e-gold buys about 9Kg of lead) This is my plan to turn lead into gold. cya,Andrew... JP wrote: Does anyone have a good term for e-gold like entities? What about fungible actual gold, with agio, no encumberances (FAGWANEs). What happens to the agio part when a system without a storage fee deploys? Thinking about it, it would be impossible to not charge for storge. (How?) I guess the storage fees could be incorporated in the spend fee. Or, I suppose, it could be supported by advertising? But, if the gold is truly unencumbered, the operating compnay has to be paying storage fees - agio Viking referred once or twice to GBC for gold based currency, which is succinct, but perhaps GBPS for gold based payment system would be almost as succinct but sufficiently inclusive. -=Steve=- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] e-gold promotional material required
Recently there has been a renewed push for an Individuals Constituency to operate within the ICANN/DNSO/NC structure. This push was reinforced by a recent vote withing the GA of the DNSO. What that means for those who do not normally put up with the bickering that surrounds internet politics, is that smaller internet people may start to get a voice! Like everything else funding has a big effect on how well things happen. To help raise those funds a public ballance account has been created (313216) What is now needed is to get people to use e-gold ;) Does anyone know of someway to get promotional material like e-gold buttons/stickers (preferably ones that are or can be customised with an acct#) fast? The GA meeting is about to happen in Stockholm http://www.icann.org/stockholm/ Since they are all an international bunch the idea of e-gold would probably get a good reception with most I note with interest that sponsors for the meeting are still needed ;) cya, Andrew... Flagrantly stolen message follows - Sorry dude but you need to make buttons and stickers for us to wear in Stockholm. Yes you have to design them and order them and get them to us there is Stockholm. That my friend is the easy part, I have to make sure Vint is wearing one along with Karl and folk. Sincerely, McMeikan, Andrew wrote: Greetings all GA members. This is just to advise the population of the general assembly about a fund set up to take donations for the up coming Individuals constituency. At least 75 members of this list would like to see the IC take off, going on some of the comments I suspect that number is really higher. If you want to flame me for this please keep the noise off list, If you don't trust me to hold this money for the purpose I've stated then don't send any money, this post is for the info of those that will wish to support an IC. I realise that the IC is not yet in existence so some may not want to fund it until they can see better where their money goes, this is fine by me. I just wanted those who are keen (like me ;) to be able to put some money up in good faith. This basis of creation of this fund is detailed here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wg-review/message/495 as always there were some questions to be answered, they can be seen here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wg-review/message/501 rather than ask 101 questions here read those links first, they should cover it. I do not claim this fund as the only way to get money into this cause, but it may be an easy way for many and I would like everyone to have the opportunity to make a donation. Hopefully those links explain it enough for everyone, the brief summary is I will hand over control of this account to the official IC once established, failing an official established IC it will go towards that effort (IDNO looking like the default should nothing else get together) I also would not like this to be taken as an IC not needing funding via ICANN, the IC will be much pressed for expenses as it will not have the big money behind it as some of the other constituencies do, this is just to help and there is very little money in it so far. The main links pertaining to this fund as detailed in the messages referenced above are detailed again below for your convenience. If you know of other groups that might have an interest in or desire to donate towards the IC please distribute this information to them. The public balance http://www.e-gold.com/pub-bal.asp?pubid=313216 if any one wants to put some more money in http://two-cents-worth.com/?313216 provides an easy way, just up the donation amount to what feels good to you ;) If you do not have an e-gold account yet you can get a free one here https://www.e-gold.com/newacct/newaccount.asp?cid=313216 You can find someone to convert your local currency to e-gold here http://www.e-gold.com/unsecure/links.htm or http://www.golddirectory.com/e-gold.htm and the e-gold questions and answers page http://www.e-gold.com/unsecure/qanda.html If all this still does not help enough for you to put money in, mail me and I will see how I can help. cya,Andrew... --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] East Timor currency dictated by UN as US Dollar only.
see http://www.smh.com.au/news/0105/11/world/world1.html it seems any other currency is now outlawed, majority have been using Australian dollar and Indonesian Rupiah. Does anyone know of links to what the actual licensing rules are? Would it affect e-gold? I would like to hear from anyone that knows what is happening over there. cya, Andrew... --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Anyone in Israel ?
I need to pay someone there but could not see any market makers listed. Would be nice to save a couple of bucks by not getting a US cheque cashed. cya, Andrew... --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: You can now buy TECHNOCASH online!!!!
For those allergic to any sort of registering (for me the nice thing about technocash is no ID totally anonymous purchase) or using your bank account for such things, feel free to contact me anonymously and I will post details on the http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goldenagents list my public key is at http://www.keyserver.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x523A125A Given the lousy Ausiee dollar this could be a good investment ;) How about I auction one technocash dollar with both the winner and second last bid paying! cya,Andrew... snip Banking. All you have to do is register online with us at www.technocash.com.au so that we know where to send your TECHNOCASH - which is password protected for your safety. Now as well as over 2,900 Australia Post outlets you can also buy TECHNOCASH at home or at work - ANY TIME. snip --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: small point about e-gold velocity
This just seemed like a really good opourtunity to remind everyone of http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goldenagents and http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goldenagents/files/Anonmoney.txt for those that want to move e-gold in privacy, even when your out of the system its nice to get even further out ;) In fact it seems so far out that the expected heavy use just does not seem to be happening much :\ of course it could be happening even further out that I can't see it in which case its working best! Never assume that money velocity can be measured, some of it just can not be seen. MS seems to work pretty well, has anyone ever had a bad experience? cya, Andrew... snip Here's an interesting thing. It is NOT TRUE that the e-gold server tracks ALL use, spends, of e-gold Erich's MS server now does a LOT of spending of e-gold that e-gold knows nothing about and never will -- in fact, I have often used it as a privacy measure so that Jim can't look up my spends! (Just joking Jim! :)) If A says to B "I want to be paid in e-gold, but I don't want e-gold to know about it", A then simply opens an MS account, and gets paid from one MS account to another. snip --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: updated e-gold related pages
You might want to add to your directory page http://www.egroups.com/group/goldenagents for globaly distributed individual e-gold to local fiat currency exchangers (or Technocash, Metalsavings, whatever) and vise-versa. Personally I am a good cause (open source hardware/software ;) http://opendesign.cx e-gold acct 188428 cya, Andrew... If anyone would like to be included on these pages, e-mail me the appropriate links and acct. nos. . forrest http://members.tripod.com/~lowell_potter/char http://members.tripod.com/~lowell_potter/egodir .. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: egold sale
one or more of the many Ponzi scams? It is not as if there was much else (with the notable exception of the gambling sites) that anyone could be doing to generate a large, periodic income in e-gold in anxious need to be anonymously converted back to fiat money. While I don't agree with much of what the US government does, I do agree with much of what it is based upon. Namely, in this case, a person is innocent until proven guilty. Circumstantial evidence doesn't hold up in any court of law (that isn't corrupt). Viking Coder Carefull you just called the Australian government corrupt ;) We have this wonderful law that allows assets to be frozen on suspicion then when found innocent in court you are given 28 days to explain where all your money came from. if you can not justify it, they take what seems to be excessive then unfreeze the rest. I wonder how successful they would be in tracking down all e-gold related accounts and getting them frozen? cya,Andrew... --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]