Re: [Elecraft] Transmit audio monitor level control
I didn't see anything in the K3 FAQ regarding the way CW sidetone and phone transmit audio monitor levels are controlled. Push and hold MON. Then adjust it. If you are in SSB, it'll adjust your SSB monitor volume. If you are in CW, it'll adjust your sidetone level. The radio remembers your selection until you change it. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter widths re: speech intelligibility
The definitive paper on noise, bandwidth and their relationships in a communications channel is still Claude Shannon's 1948 paper A Mathematical Theory of Communication: http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/ms/what/shannonday/paper.html It's the signal to noise ratio in the channel that will determine if a given voice bandwidth will get through, and how much of the power in that bandwidth will actually be useful to communicate information. It's also why DXers tend to favor narrower TX bandwidths, since they tend to operate in marginal S/N conditions. Most modern USAF fixed station radios use 2.8 kHz as a default bandwidth (at least all the Motorola MiComm II we use). The PolyComm article is based on a noiseless channel, BTW, so it is not surprising that it concludes that the wider bandwidths are best for intelligibility. Unfortunately, this is not the case on HF comm channels much of the time due to fading, interference, and noise. 73, Chuck KE3KR begin quoted mail Interesting, although I have to take into account the fact that the publisher of the report has a vested interest in showing that more bandwidth is appreciably better for voice communication. 73, doug Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:09:34 -0400 From: DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.polycom.com/common/documents/whitepapers/ effect_of_bandwidth_on_speech_intelligibility_2.pdf Don't confuse single single intelligibility of speech (and especially speech quality) with speech intelligibility during heavy band qrm. It's always a balancing act. Argh. This is why I have forgotten the phone and concentrate on cw. de Doug KR2Q end quoted mail ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Transmit audio monitor level control
Gus, Of the four knobs to the left of the main tuning knob, the lower right one has a HOLD function of MON (Monitor). This adjusts both the sidetone level and monitor level in other modes. 73 Greg AB7R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Augie Hansen Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 6:51 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] Transmit audio monitor level control I didn't see anything in the K3 FAQ regarding the way CW sidetone and phone transmit audio monitor levels are controlled. Some rigs allow setting a monitor level that is independent of the receive audio level. Others allow setting a base monitor level that is then altered by the receive audio level setting. Each method has benefits and drawbacks, but I prefer being able to set TX monitor levels independently to avoid accidentally blasting my ears in the headphones. Which method is used in the K3? Or is this a configurable option like almost everything else on the K3? Gus Hansen KB0YH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/880 - Release Date: 6/29/2007 2:15 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/880 - Release Date: 6/29/2007 2:15 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Popping noise on my K2
Hello My K2 makes a popping noise when keying it on cw. I remember when I was a kid my mother would wash the bed sheets and hang them on an outside clothes line, and if the wind was blowing the sheets would make a popping sound. That sounds exactly the same as the noise I am hearing on the K2. It's almost as loud as the side tone. This happens at all power output levels from 1 watt through 100 watts. Has anyone had this same problem, and if so, how did you cure it? Thanks Scott N5SM _ Picture this share your photos and you could win big! http://www.GETREALPhotoContest.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Transmit audio monitor level control
AB7R wrote: ... Of the four knobs to the left of the main tuning knob, the lower right one has a HOLD function of MON (Monitor). This adjusts both the sidetone level and monitor level in other modes. Hi Greg, Thanks to both you and Lyle for the timely responses. I had assumed there is a way to set the desired monitoring levels and I appreciate the description of the means by which this is done. However, there is still a question about the effect of changes to the receive audio levels (AF and SUB) on those monitor levels. If the K3 is like the K2, there will be no effect, which is what I hope will be the case. I don't want the TX monitor level to change when I adjust RX audio levels. Examples of rigs that do alter the TX monitor level when the RX audio level is changed are all of the Icom transceivers that I have owned. They inject the TX monitor into the audio stream before the AF gain control circuit and treat that control as a master level control for both RX and TX. On the other hand, my Yaesu FT-1000mp injects the TX monitor signal into the audio chain on its own input, separate from the RX audio, as in a mixer with individual level controls. That way, I can crank the RX audio way up to hear the weak ones and not blow out my eardrums with monitor audio when I transmit. Much safer in my view. Cheers, Gus Hansen KB0YH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Transmit audio monitor level control
The monitor levels are independent of and not changed by the main and sub volume controls. 73, Eric Augie Hansen wrote: AB7R wrote: ... Of the four knobs to the left of the main tuning knob, the lower right one has a HOLD function of MON (Monitor). This adjusts both the sidetone level and monitor level in other modes. I had assumed there is a way to set the desired monitoring levels and I appreciate the description of the means by which this is done. However, there is still a question about the effect of changes to the receive audio levels (AF and SUB) on those monitor levels. If the K3 is like the K2, there will be no effect, which is what I hope will be the case. I don't want the TX monitor level to change when I adjust RX audio levels. Examples of rigs that do alter the TX monitor level when the RX audio level is changed are all of the Icom transceivers that I have owned. They inject the TX monitor into the audio stream before the AF gain control circuit and treat that control as a master level control for both RX and TX. On the other hand, my Yaesu FT-1000mp injects the TX monitor signal into the audio chain on its own input, separate from the RX audio, as in a mixer with individual level controls. That way, I can crank the RX audio way up to hear the weak ones and not blow out my eardrums with monitor audio when I transmit. Much safer in my view. Cheers, Gus Hansen KB0YH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Popping noise on my K2
Hi Scott: Check the t-r delay in the menu. If it is set to 0.0, then try it with the delay set to 0.1. 73, Ken K3IU Scott McDowell wrote: Hello My K2 makes a popping noise when keying it on cw. I remember when I was a kid my mother would wash the bed sheets and hang them on an outside clothes line, and if the wind was blowing the sheets would make a popping sound. That sounds exactly the same as the noise I am hearing on the K2. It's almost as loud as the side tone. This happens at all power output levels from 1 watt through 100 watts. Has anyone had this same problem, and if so, how did you cure it? Thanks Scott N5SM _ Picture this – share your photos and you could win big! http://www.GETREALPhotoContest.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Transmit audio monitor level control
Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: The monitor levels are independent of and not changed by the main and sub volume controls. Thanks Eric, That's music to my ears, so to speak. Gus KB0YH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 Popping noise
Hello Thanks to Sam Kl7V and Ken K3IU, my popping noise on my K2 is cured. I had the T-R set on 0.02, so moved it to 0.04 and that stopped the noise. I sure appreciate your help. Thanks Scott N5SM _ Picture this share your photos and you could win big! http://www.GETREALPhotoContest.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K2 4922] IF Amplifier Alignment
Clark Macaulay wrote: build process was unable to get 3.80: my dmm reads 3.76 but only at the extreme end of R1's range. I forgot to mention that I can only get 3.79, but that seems to be a bug in the manual. If one assumes U2b (i.e. got the a and b mixed before) doesn't load the voltage, I think the end stop voltage with all components nominal is 3.82; that means that 3.76 is less than 2% out, so within the component tolerances. It looks as though the manual should really have said set R1 at the end stop. At first, I didn't think much of it and have started on the Phase II of the RF board. Your message would imply that the desired 3.80 is probably a minimum and I can't even reach that! Since I've always had It's a maximum. The original design didn't have a variable, but it was found that many people wanted to lower R1 slightly. The material that describes the mod to the old version gives a better description of how one should vary R1; the current manual simply says you may want to adjust it, without any clue as to why. -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] gMFSK and K2 configuration
Due to a hard disk problem I have switched to Linux on the shack computer. I know there are a few people using Linux with their K2s. Perhaps they could give me a bit of help. I have installed gMFSK. I am using a K2 serial cable which has the addition of a transistor switch on DTR. With MixW under Windows this allowed me to use the computer as a CW keyer, and PTT was done by software. I have enabled the Hamlib interface. It appears to me that the key input is providing the PTT (since on the K2 the PTT and straight key connections are one and the same) but there is no CW keying. When I try to TX in CW, the K2 goes key down all the time and audio CW is emitted by the speaker. There seems to be no way to send CW from gMFSK. If I'm wrong, perhaps someone could help me out with the configuration. Also, what's the best logging program under Linux? Preferably something integrated with gMFSK and with eQSL support. 73, -- Julian, G4ILO G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? www.Ham-Directory.com: the best ham resources on the net ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] KIO2 Virtual Keying and WriteLog
Does anyone know if WriteLog supports Virtual Keying of CW/PTT through the K2 KIO2 interface? I've used N1MM in the past with other rigs but it doesn't support Elecrafts Virtual Keying. Thanks - JT ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KIO2 Virtual Keying and WriteLog
On 6/30/07, Philip Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PTT doesn't go through the KIO2. You would be better off using it through the KEY line. I don't use writelog, so I don't know your unique situation. Thanks for your reply but I do read manuals before I post and it says I can key CW/PTT through the KIO2 using virtual keying as it is called. From page 20 in the manual: Virtual keying, using computer commands sent to the KIO2's serial port: In this case, no connection to the key or mic jacks is required for keying the K2. In SSB mode, the computer sends the K2 TX and RX commands, which the K2 responds to by turning PTT on and off internally. In CW mode, the computer sends typed characters to the K2 using a KY command, and the K2 converts the characters to dots and dashes internally. This method of keying is supported by only a few remote control applications, including RCP570 and Elecraft's K2REMOTE program. (For details on the TX, RX, and KY commands, refer to the KIO2 Programmer's Reference.) However, it doesn't look like many third party programs support it at this time so I will most likely have to split off a line and use PTT through the KEY jack like you suggest. Thanks - JT ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KIO2 Virtual Keying and WriteLog
JT, You are correct, not many applications support the K2 virtual keying. I do wish that would change, and perhaps it will now that Elecraft has gotten more attention with the K3 (well, wishful thinking sometimes produces results G). I can only believe that it is not supported because the applications attempt to support multiple transceivers with the same code - the K2 is unique in this function (as far as I know), and the programmers would have to branch off into routines that are specific for the K2 - that means more code in their programs. Perhaps one of the application authors could respond and provide his reasons, but for the time being, it is prudent to use whatever conversion hardware is necessary to activate the K2 key line. 73, Don W3FPR John Tobias Croteau wrote: Virtual keying, using computer commands sent to the KIO2's serial port: In this case, no connection to the key or mic jacks is required for keying the K2. In SSB mode, the computer sends the K2 TX and RX commands, which the K2 responds to by turning PTT on and off internally. In CW mode, the computer sends typed characters to the K2 using a KY command, and the K2 converts the characters to dots and dashes internally. This method of keying is supported by only a few remote control applications, including RCP570 and Elecraft's K2REMOTE program. (For details on the TX, RX, and KY commands, refer to the KIO2 Programmer's Reference.) However, it doesn't look like many third party programs support it at this time so I will most likely have to split off a line and use PTT through the KEY jack like you suggest. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 or K3
As some of you know, I've been looking at putting together a K2 station for portable RTTY/PSK31 operation. However, as I am looking at the cost differences, I am now wondering if I might better off with a K3. Here is my dilemma: I am disabled and unable to solder because the medications I am on make my hands shake like crazy. The person who normally builds kits for me is unable to take on this task due to family and work commitments. I have contacted three of the builders in the Elecraft community and have received quotes ranging from $350 to $450 to do what I want. Therefore, by the time I buy the kits from Elecraft and pay for assembly, I am looking at $1270 to $1370 for a basic K2 with what I need for data ops.For $1399, I can get a K3/10 with the same features plus many extras and better performance. Maybe I should also look for a used K2 but I am real picky on build quality. Any advice guys? Thanks - JT ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 or K3
It is a simple answer, really. A factory built K3 and you're all set. de Joe, aa4nn - Original Message - From: John Tobias Croteau [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 8:23 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K2 or K3 As some of you know, I've been looking at putting together a K2 station for portable RTTY/PSK31 operation. However, as I am looking at the cost differences, I am now wondering if I might better off with a K3. Here is my dilemma: I am disabled and unable to solder because the medications I am on make my hands shake like crazy. The person who normally builds kits for me is unable to take on this task due to family and work commitments. I have contacted three of the builders in the Elecraft community and have received quotes ranging from $350 to $450 to do what I want. Therefore, by the time I buy the kits from Elecraft and pay for assembly, I am looking at $1270 to $1370 for a basic K2 with what I need for data ops.For $1399, I can get a K3/10 with the same features plus many extras and better performance. Maybe I should also look for a used K2 but I am real picky on build quality. Any advice guys? Thanks - JT ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K2 or K3
Therefore, by the time I buy the kits from Elecraft and pay for assembly, I am looking at $1270 to $1370 for a basic K2 with what I need for data ops. For $1399, I can get a K3/10 with the same features plus many extras and better performance. Maybe I should also look for a used K2 but I am real picky on build quality. Keep an eye on eBay. There has been a regular stream of K2's up there. I haven't been watching the selling prices closely, but you can expect to pick one up for at least 20% less than the kit price and perhaps as much as 30% off. You may end up with an accessory or two that you don't want, but you'll save a lot of money vs. buying a kit and having it built. The K2 isn't that hard to build. If it's been working for the previous owner, it will work for you. You can ask for close-up pictures if you want. The K2 is a lot different than say the old Heathkit days. With all the point-to-point wiring and stacks of components soldered to terminals, the skill of the builder could dramatically affect appearance and performance. And I don't think I ever built a Heathkit that worked right when I got done. They required a lot of debugging after they were complete. With the Elecraft kits you just build them and they work (with a few exceptions as some here will testify). But the point is I don't think there is as much variability in quality as you might find with other kits and homebrew projects. Of course, they're designed that way. :-) Craig NZ0R KX1 #1499 K1 #1966 K2/100 #4941 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tobias Croteau Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 7:23 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K2 or K3 As some of you know, I've been looking at putting together a K2 station for portable RTTY/PSK31 operation. However, as I am looking at the cost differences, I am now wondering if I might better off with a K3. Here is my dilemma: I am disabled and unable to solder because the medications I am on make my hands shake like crazy. The person who normally builds kits for me is unable to take on this task due to family and work commitments. I have contacted three of the builders in the Elecraft community and have received quotes ranging from $350 to $450 to do what I want. Therefore, by the time I buy the kits from Elecraft and pay for assembly, I am looking at $1270 to $1370 for a basic K2 with what I need for data ops.For $1399, I can get a K3/10 with the same features plus many extras and better performance. Maybe I should also look for a used K2 but I am real picky on build quality. Any advice guys? Thanks - JT ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 or K3
On 6/30/07, Mike Short [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The basic 10W rig is about 1400. More than the K2, though. What were you getting with the K2? Yup, that's my dilemma. K2 + KAF2 + KSB2 + KIO2 is $925 delivered. Builders want between $350 and $450 for assembly. According to my doctor and social security, I am disabled but I refuse to accept it and the handout of free assembly from these often unappreciated builders. I simply can't hold an iron steady any more to do it myself. Base K3/10 is looking like the better option at this point. - JT ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] KAT2 Manual Issue - Page 10
Is the green wire supposed to go to J8 pin 1 (next to arrow) as show on page 10 diagram, or is it to go to pin 2 as described in the manual text? How about the rest of the wires, do they go as the diagram indicates? Thanks ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K2 or K3
People charge money to build a K2? I thought it was fun. I just sold my KPA100 for less then I paid for it, as I figured the person who bought it did not get the fun of building it, and that's worth something... I would do it for free, but summer is busy time for me, work, yard work, paint the sisters house, motorcycle stuff, etc. I think a used working K2 would be fine, if you did have any problems, they are easy to fix (compared to regular rigs). The K3 is likely much better in most respects, but add the options and the price goes up just like the K2... Brett N2DTS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tobias Croteau Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 9:07 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 or K3 On 6/30/07, Mike Short [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The basic 10W rig is about 1400. More than the K2, though. What were you getting with the K2? Yup, that's my dilemma. K2 + KAF2 + KSB2 + KIO2 is $925 delivered. Builders want between $350 and $450 for assembly. According to my doctor and social security, I am disabled but I refuse to accept it and the handout of free assembly from these often unappreciated builders. I simply can't hold an iron steady any more to do it myself. Base K3/10 is looking like the better option at this point. - JT ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 or K3
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007, John Tobias Croteau wrote: On 6/30/07, Mike Short [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The basic 10W rig is about 1400. More than the K2, though. What were you getting with the K2? Yup, that's my dilemma. K2 + KAF2 + KSB2 + KIO2 is $925 delivered. Builders want between $350 and $450 for assembly. According to my doctor and social security, I am disabled but I refuse to accept it and the handout of free assembly from these often unappreciated builders. I simply can't hold an iron steady any more to do it myself. Base K3/10 is looking like the better option at this point. Depends on where you are. I'd do it for free for the fun of it. There are those of us who do it for fun. -- Hisashi T Fujinaka - [EMAIL PROTECTED] BSEE(6/86) + BSChem(3/95) + BAEnglish(8/95) + MSCS(8/03) + $2.50 = latte ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
Good Evening, Field Day was fun last week. I did not make as many contacts as the years before but I got to be around people. That was nice; they even fed me :) The weather was pleasant with only a little rain. It did not get too hot nor too cold either. The new park was much nicer than I had expected. Unfortunately the short way home had been blocked. Maybe I should petition for a key to the logging gate so my trek would only be four miles instead of the twenty mile round-about route. The deer have been moving around. I saw one buck whose antlers are getting large near my neighbor's property. I also saw one doe with a very small fawn. My front yard deer population has dropped to one doe; the others have not made an appearance in almost two weeks. Turk's cap lilies are gradually working their way up the mountain as are the foxglove. It is time to start cutting the cold deck into firewood for this winter. I have four cords so far from the trees felled by the windstorm but cannot burn that until late winter or early spring. The cold deck has been sitting for two seasons so it is quite dry. Conditions on twenty were not so hot during the morning but early evening listening has been good. I did listen a little on forty during the week but mostly I have been too busy to monitor the bands. There are a few sunspots visible but I am not sure of their activity level. We have two new interns at work so my throughput has dropped drastically as I monitor and train them. In a few weeks I should be able to do my own work again :) My office space went from very quiet and productive to noisy and unproductive. Three people in my 'space' does not help me write software! Tomorrow: 1) Hail signs (first letter or two of the suffix of your call) 2) NCS help (as well as QSP/QNP relay help) Please join us: Sunday 2300z (Sunday 4 PM PDT) 14050 kHz Monday 0200z (Sunday 7 PM PDT) 7045 kHz 73, Kevin. KD5ONS ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT2 Manual Issue - Page 10
Joey (I assume - you did not sign your name or call), The green wire connects with Control Board P4 pin 2. And YES, it will look like the manual diagram when correctly completed. The green wire goes toward the top of P4. Yes, in this case, the arrow is closest to J8 pin 2. The rest of the wires do connect as indicated in the diagram. 73, Don W3FPR joey mcg wrote: Is the green wire supposed to go to J8 pin 1 (next to arrow) as show on page 10 diagram, or is it to go to pin 2 as described in the manual text? How about the rest of the wires, do they go as the diagram indicates? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K2 or K3
One of the differences between the K2 and K3 is that, being in a bigger box, the K3 has bigger knobs, bigger buttons and a bigger display with bigger letters. Those are a huge so what? for many young ops, but it sounds to me like they might making operating the K3 much more pleasant for you, not to mention all of the other features of the K3. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- As some of you know, I've been looking at putting together a K2 station for portable RTTY/PSK31 operation. However, as I am looking at the cost differences, I am now wondering if I might better off with a K3. Here is my dilemma: I am disabled and unable to solder because the medications I am on make my hands shake like crazy. The person who normally builds kits for me is unable to take on this task due to family and work commitments. I have contacted three of the builders in the Elecraft community and have received quotes ranging from $350 to $450 to do what I want. Therefore, by the time I buy the kits from Elecraft and pay for assembly, I am looking at $1270 to $1370 for a basic K2 with what I need for data ops.For $1399, I can get a K3/10 with the same features plus many extras and better performance. Maybe I should also look for a used K2 but I am real picky on build quality. Any advice guys? Thanks - JT ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
