[Elecraft] K3: cw rise time mod.

2008-03-29 Thread Mike

K3 #0215 has C222 valued 1uFd.
Mike.

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[Elecraft] Spectrum Analyzer and Panoramic Adapter SDR-IQ

2008-03-29 Thread W7is
Anyone had any experience with the below and whether it would  interface
with the K3?   
 
SDR-IQ™ Software Defined Radio, Spectrum Analyzer and Panoramic  Adapter

_http://www.rfspace.com/SDR-IQ.html_ (http://www.rfspace.com/SDR-IQ.html) 
 
 



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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net news

2008-03-29 Thread Kevin Rock
I am working on the ecn.visionseer.com website.  I am trying to figure out a 
way to post a .xls (Excel spreadsheet) so it is accessible.  I think I can post 
it as an href link and have the user right click and download it.  Since I 
don't use Excel this has been translated from the original spreadsheet 
document.  However, I know this works because of others using my translated 
files.  Now to make it accessible via the web.  I may, or may not, get it 
working tonight.  I did get the roster, preamble, and notes updated.  


Disregard the times posted for ECN on the zerobeat site.  They are wrong ECN is 
still at these times:

Sunday 2300z (Sunday 4 PM PDT) 14050 kHz
Monday 0100z (Sunday 6 PM PDT)  7045 kHz


Side note:

Remember, while attempting to QNI  ECN if you send while I am sending it is 
only so much QRM.  Wait for the ? K and send your sign.  Last week I was told 
there was an ** being sent while I was sending.  I did hear a little but since 
I was sending I knew it was not for my ears.  When I sent ** ? there was no 
response which only enhanced the notion that ** was QRM.  There is often QRM 
during ECN but I work others around it.  Please only send your call after the 
DE KD5ONS ? K.


See you tomorrow,
   Kevin.  KD5ONS



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RE: [Elecraft] CW rise time mod

2008-03-29 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I  certainly did not notice it on K3 S/N 10, nor did anyone I worked on CW.
But I seldom operate CW above 25 WPM. IIRC, it was a high speed operator who
noticed the 'soft' keying, probably working at rates well above 25 WPM.

Still, I made the change because, as the notes on the web page suggest,
there will be the ability to adjust the characteristic using the MENU
commands in the future. But that firmware will assume a particular hardware
configuration, and I wanted my hardware to match what the firmware expects. 

Ron AC7AC 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Reiser
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 5:33 PM
To: Lyle Johnson; Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW rise time mod


People,

8 ms.- 5 ms.= 3 ms., does it matter in any practical sense?  I would really 
like to know who cares, and why?  Can anyone hear the difference? 
Three-thousanths of a second?  Not my old brain.

73,
John, W2GW
K3 #384


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RE: [Elecraft] K3 1.78 Firmware Power Output

2008-03-29 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Every question worth asking is asked at least 50 times (and answered nearly
as often!) 

Ron AC7AC

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike N8XPQ
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 5:49 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 1.78 Firmware Power Output



Mike . . .

You need to pay more attention to the reflector.  This has been noted ad 
nauseum and will be corrected in the 1.79 which is due out shortly.

K9ZTV

(REPLY OFF-LINE)
WOW...I guess I have been truly told I wasn't aware there were appointed
frequency and reflector cops!! :-)




Mike N8XPQ wrote:
> 
> Has anyone noticed the power output with the 1.78 version does not 
> seem to be a "punchy or responsive"? It seems to be very sluggish. I 
> have attempted all parameter possibilities and still have had no luck. 
> I am certain that with the previous versions, the output was much more 
> responsive and was not like this. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear 
> possible to revert back to a prior version.
> 


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Re: [Elecraft] Key Line - My Mistake

2008-03-29 Thread Phil Kane

On 3/29/2008 4:57 PM, Jim Miller wrote:


   What  I  cannot  find  in  the  Elecraft  documentation is the maximum
   current and voltage that it can switch.


Look in the K3 FAQs - if you were to print it out, it is on page 27 of 34 -
it is the last item prior to the heading "other".

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3FAQ.htm
(search for 6 amps)

"What is the voltage and current limit to control TX amp relays?
The keying device is rated at 200 volts, 6 amps."


That is for the K3.  The original question - and the one that I have - 
is for the K2/100.  Are they the same?


73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402
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[Elecraft] K2 operation with internal battery

2008-03-29 Thread Arthur Gunn

Jerry

In reply to your question, I operate the K2 with internal battery and  
a charger connected all the time. Hearing concern about improper  
charging from many on the reflector, I searched out a power supply for  
this application.


I operate the K2 with the battery on and on transmit power is taken  
from the battery. In receive or with K2 off, the battery charges. It  
works for me.


Bob Lewis AA4PB wrote an article in 2001-5 QST about his K2 and  
battery along with his journey in understanding how to charge these  
SLA batteries. It is educational reading about charging mistakes. The  
power supply in the article can be built from a premade circuit board  
and your parts purchase from suppliers. Not a difficult build!


Mine has been in use for 7 months and it is a joy to use.

73

Art VE9BP
Arthur Gunn

74 Mill Bank Road
Nasonworth NB  E3C 2C6

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CORRECTION!!! Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Times and Frequencies *********

2008-03-29 Thread Kevin Rock
I am not sure where this time and frequency listing originated but I did not 
write it.  

Each week there is an announcement of the Elecraft Net on the Reflector.  Times 
change with the seasons and as we in the US go through another offset of 
Daylight Savings Time.  

The nets are being held tomorrow at:
Sunday 2300z (Sunday 4 PM PDT) 14050 kHz
Monday 0100z (Sunday 6 PM PDT)  7045 kHz

One way to tell I did not create that list of times and frequencies is the odd 
way the frequencies are noted.  I NEVER use MHz. 
   
Kevin.  KD5ONS
 

-Original Message-
>From: Jim Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Mar 29, 2008 5:34 PM
>To: KM5Q <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Times and Frequencies *
>
>Yes, but what "time"?
>
>xxx
>CW
>
>14.050 MHz Sunday Aptos Time 4pm PDT (Sunday 2300z)
>
>7.045 MHz Sunday Aptos Time 7pm PDT (Monday 0200z)
>
>SSB
>
>MONDAY & THURSDAY EVENINGS (Americas)
>
>TUESDAY & FRIDAY MORNINGS (Europe) 0100 UTC 7.188-7.190 MHz
>
>SUNDAY 1800 UTC 14.316 MHz
>
>xxx
>
>SSB:
>On the web page (above) it looks like the 0100Z applies to Europe only.
>The "Americas" time is specified as "evening".
>
>I guess I am old or something - maybe the 0100Z is supposed to apply to the
>"Americas" also???
>
>73, Jim
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "KM5Q" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: 
>Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 7:09 PM
>Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Times and Frequencies *
>
>
>> People keep asking me when the net is, so here is the current schedule:
>>
>> ELECRAFT SSB NET
>>
>> 40m
>> MONDAY & THURSDAY EVENINGS (Americas)
>>  TUESDAY & FRIDAY MORNINGS (Europe)
>> 0100 UTC   7.190 MHz
>>
>> 20m
>> SUNDAY 1800 UTC   14.316 MHz
>>
>> You will also find the net schedule posted and updated at:
>> http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
>> The CW Net is posted there too.
>>
>> If the frequency is in use, please tune up and down as necessary. If
>> you hear nobody, please call the net yourself. There is not always an
>> "official" net control.
>>
>> Hope to CU,
>> Windy KM5Q
>> Net Catalyst
>> Santa Fe, NM
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 1.78 Firmware Power Output

2008-03-29 Thread K9ZTV

Mike . . .

Anyone with a new K3 would be well advised to be monitoring the 
reflector every day ... things are happening that quickly.  Plus, 
knowing many others were having the same problem could have saved you a 
lot of time fooling around with "parameter possibilities."


If you haven't had time to check out the website lately, you may also 
wish to avail yourself of the three factory hardware modifications that 
are available.


K9ZTV


Mike Koetje wrote:

Kent,

I wasn't aware that you were designated the position of reflector 
police chief.  I stand grossly corrected, scolded, and put-in-my 
place. I was mealy asking a simple question deserving a simple, 
non-degrading reply. I  don't have time to keep completely up to date 
on the reflector posting as it appears you do. Please keep your snide 
and inappropriate comments to yourself. I will however keep your name 
and call I the back of my hat the next time I feel the need for a good 
slap in the face or firm "smack your mama put ya' in the corner" 
response or comment.

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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2008-03-29 Thread Kevin Rock
Good Evening,
   I spent some time on the ECN website and got one thing changed.  There is 
now a roster of all who have checked in over the years.  I'll work on a few 
other parts of it now that I've got my tools working again.  I have forgotten 
too much html code over the years and my partner trained in the arts is no 
longer available to help.  Miss you Pat!  But I will relearn from the books 
lying around the house.  
   The sun finally broke through a few minutes ago.  We have been getting more 
snow this week.  I had six inches today to go with the other six from the last 
few days.  I thought I was going to be rid of the last of the winter's snow 
when this storm started.  I heard it is even falling in the valley.  Good thing 
I have supplies because the natives have no clue how to drive when there is 
even a dusting of snow.  Keeps the fender repair folks and the insurance 
companies in business!  
   I was able to get on the air a little this week and call CQ.  20, 40, and 80 
meters all elicited at least one contact.  I am glad my antenna is still up and 
working after all the snow.  I felt lonely so I got on the air.  There are some 
folks out there willing to chat and I found them.  I need to try 80 meters more 
often because I can then meet the locals :)  Normally I work folks too far away 
to visit.  Field Day plans are shaping up as well as QRP to the Field.  Looks 
like I won't have to go too far to get on the air.  FD will be about five miles 
from here.  That is if I could drive right to it.  However, the county has 
gated off those roads.  I am thinking of just hiking over the 12 inch minus 
gravel road.  
   I had better send this while I still have power and the phones are still 
working.  Yesterday I lost power many times; today only a couple.  I'll reset 
the blinking clocks when the snow decides to quit falling.  The phone service 
has been intermittent over the last week and yesterday dropped out around 9 PM. 
 It finally returned about an hour ago.  The heavy, wet snow is not helping 
things.  Even though my phone and power lines are underground they are not so 
further down the mountain.  Most of the breaks occur within a mile before they 
go beneath the road.  

Please join us tomorrow evening.
 
1) Hail signs  (first letter or two of the suffix of your call)
2) NCS help (as well as QSP/QNP  help)
 
Sunday 2300z (Sunday 4 PM PDT) 14050 kHz
Monday 0100z (Sunday 6 PM PDT)  7045 kHz
 
   Stay warm,
  Kevin.  KD5ONS

ecn.visionseer.com

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 1.78 Firmware Power Output

2008-03-29 Thread Mike N8XPQ

Mike . . .

You need to pay more attention to the reflector.  This has been noted ad 
nauseum and will be corrected in the 1.79 which is due out shortly.

K9ZTV

(REPLY OFF-LINE)
WOW...I guess I have been truly told I wasn't aware there were appointed
frequency and reflector cops!! :-)




Mike N8XPQ wrote:
> 
> Has anyone noticed the power output with the 1.78 version does not seem to
> be a "punchy or responsive"? It seems to be very sluggish. I have
> attempted all parameter possibilities and still have had no luck. I am
> certain that with the previous versions, the output was much more
> responsive and was not like this. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear
> possible to revert back to a prior version.
> 


-
Mike Koetje N8XPQ
-- 
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http://www.nabble.com/K3-1.78-Firmware-Power-Output-tp16376546p16376864.html
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Times and Frequencies *********

2008-03-29 Thread Jim Miller
Yes, but what "time"?

xxx
CW

14.050 MHz Sunday Aptos Time 4pm PDT (Sunday 2300z)

7.045 MHz Sunday Aptos Time 7pm PDT (Monday 0200z)

SSB

MONDAY & THURSDAY EVENINGS (Americas)

TUESDAY & FRIDAY MORNINGS (Europe) 0100 UTC 7.188-7.190 MHz

SUNDAY 1800 UTC 14.316 MHz

xxx

SSB:
On the web page (above) it looks like the 0100Z applies to Europe only.
The "Americas" time is specified as "evening".

I guess I am old or something - maybe the 0100Z is supposed to apply to the
"Americas" also???

73, Jim

- Original Message - 
From: "KM5Q" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 7:09 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Times and Frequencies *


> People keep asking me when the net is, so here is the current schedule:
>
> ELECRAFT SSB NET
>
> 40m
> MONDAY & THURSDAY EVENINGS (Americas)
>  TUESDAY & FRIDAY MORNINGS (Europe)
> 0100 UTC   7.190 MHz
>
> 20m
> SUNDAY 1800 UTC   14.316 MHz
>
> You will also find the net schedule posted and updated at:
> http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
> The CW Net is posted there too.
>
> If the frequency is in use, please tune up and down as necessary. If
> you hear nobody, please call the net yourself. There is not always an
> "official" net control.
>
> Hope to CU,
> Windy KM5Q
> Net Catalyst
> Santa Fe, NM
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Re: [Elecraft] CW rise time mod

2008-03-29 Thread John Reiser

People,

8 ms.- 5 ms.= 3 ms., does it matter in any practical sense?  I would really 
like to know who cares, and why?  Can anyone hear the difference? 
Three-thousanths of a second?  Not my old brain.


73,
John, W2GW
K3 #384


- Original Message - 
From: "Lyle Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Elecraft Reflector" 
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW rise time mod


Or do Rev A RF boards have a lower value for C222 than that shown on the 
schematic?


Early production K3 RF boards have a 1 uF capacitor instead of a 0.1 uF 
capacitor installed at C222.  Yes, the published schematics show a 0.1 uF 
capacitor.  The effect of the larger capacitor is to increase the TX 
waveform rise time to about 8 ms instead of 5 ms.


Rev B RF boards have the correct 0.1 uF value installed.  Sometime during 
Rev A RF board production, the value installed on the board was changed 
from 1 uF to 0.1 uF.


Surface mount ceramic capacitors are not marked with a value, so you 
cannot tell which you have by visual inspection.


You can determine if you have a 1 uF rather than a 0.1 uF by:

1) Measuring the capacitance if you have a capacitance meter.

2) Looking at the Tx output RF envelope on an oscilloscope or "station 
monitor" scope.  If the fall time and the rise time look very similar in 
duration, you have the 0.1 uF cap. If the rise time is about 50% longer 
than the fall time, you have the 1 uF capacitor.  You don't need an 
oscilloscope with an accurate time base to make this comparative 
measurement.  If your oscilloscope has a low bandwidth (2 to 10 MHz), use 
the 160 meter band.


3) If you are concerned that your unit may have the 1 uF capacitor and you 
have no way to determine it otherwise, you can just replace it with the 
0.1 uF part and sleep better at night :-)


If you don't change it, you will not damage anything.  Your K3 will just 
have slightly softer keying and an upcoming firmware adjustment of the 
keying time will be less accurate.


73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 1.78 Firmware Power Output

2008-03-29 Thread Bob Cunnings
http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/Firmware_Reverting

Bob NW8L

>  ... Unfortunately, it doesn't appear possible to revert back to a prior
>  version.
>
>  -
>  Mike Koetje N8XPQ
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[Elecraft] PSK31/Digital interface for within the K2

2008-03-29 Thread Paul W. Van Dyke
Is there anyone that is MAKING a interface that goes INTO the K2 for
PSK/Digital modes?? Not a box outside. As I only have USB, I am looking at
that.

Thank You
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Paul KB9AVO #6363

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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Times and Frequencies *********

2008-03-29 Thread KM5Q

People keep asking me when the net is, so here is the current schedule:

ELECRAFT SSB NET

40m
MONDAY & THURSDAY EVENINGS (Americas)
TUESDAY & FRIDAY MORNINGS (Europe)
0100 UTC   7.190 MHz

20m
SUNDAY 1800 UTC   14.316 MHz

You will also find the net schedule posted and updated at:
http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
The CW Net is posted there too.

If the frequency is in use, please tune up and down as necessary. If  
you hear nobody, please call the net yourself. There is not always an  
"official" net control.


Hope to CU,
Windy KM5Q
Net Catalyst
Santa Fe, NM
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Re: [Elecraft] Key Line - My Mistake

2008-03-29 Thread Jim Miller
>What  I  cannot  find  in  the  Elecraft  documentation is the maximum
>current and voltage that it can switch.

Look in the K3 FAQs - if you were to print it out, it is on page 27 of 34 -
it is the last item prior to the heading "other".

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3FAQ.htm
(search for 6 amps)

"What is the voltage and current limit to control TX amp relays?
The keying device is rated at 200 volts, 6 amps."

73, de Jim KG0KP


- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen W. Kercel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 6:11 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Key Line - My Mistake


>
>I  did not look closely enough. I have a K2/100 and it does have a key
>line for external amplifiers.
>What  I  cannot  find  in  the  Elecraft  documentation is the maximum
>current and voltage that it can switch.
>I  am  thinking  of  building  the  QSK  switch  shown on p. 76 of the
>February  2008  QST to run an old tube-type amplifier QSK. That device
>requires a key line that can switch +52VDC at 100 mA.
>My  question  is,  can  Q9  in the 100 Watt module handle those levels
>directly,  or  do I need to use an isolating device like the Ameritron
>ARB-704?
>73,
>Steve Kercel
>AA4AK
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[Elecraft] K3 1.78 Firmware Power Output

2008-03-29 Thread Mike N8XPQ

Has anyone noticed the power output with the 1.78 version does not seem to be
a "punchy or responsive"? It seems to be very sluggish. I have attempted all
parameter possibilities and still have had no luck. I am certain that with
the previous versions, the output was much more responsive and was not like
this. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear possible to revert back to a prior
version.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Enhancements and Application Notes Page (CW risetime)

2008-03-29 Thread Bill W5WVO

Bill W4ZV wrote:


If yours is near 211 (+/-), you may need to check the capacitance of
C222 using a capacitance meter.  It should read ~0.1 uF (or ~100 pF)


Just to prevent any confusion...  0.1 uF is 100 nF, not 100 pF.

Bill W5WVO, the Compulsive Copyeditor
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[Elecraft] Pictures of KRX3 posted yet?

2008-03-29 Thread paul hendershott
Just curious if pictures of the new version of the KRX3 have been posted 
anywhere? 


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[Elecraft] Key Line - My Mistake

2008-03-29 Thread Stephen W. Kercel

   I  did not look closely enough. I have a K2/100 and it does have a key
   line for external amplifiers.
   What  I  cannot  find  in  the  Elecraft  documentation is the maximum
   current and voltage that it can switch.
   I  am  thinking  of  building  the  QSK  switch  shown on p. 76 of the
   February  2008  QST to run an old tube-type amplifier QSK. That device
   requires a key line that can switch +52VDC at 100 mA.
   My  question  is,  can  Q9  in the 100 Watt module handle those levels
   directly,  or  do I need to use an isolating device like the Ameritron
   ARB-704?
   73,
   Steve Kercel
   AA4AK
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Re: [Elecraft] CW rise time mod

2008-03-29 Thread Vic K2VCO

David Pratt wrote:

Elecraft says.
"Some owners prefer a faster CW keying waveform rise time. The rise time 
can be reduced from about 8 milliseconds to 5 milliseconds without 
affecting the fall time by replacing capacitor C222 on the K3 main RF 
board with a 0.1 uF capacitor. This change will also allow a future 
firmware revision to further reduce rise time via a menu entry."


But the schematics of the RF Board Rev. A4 (Sheet 3 of 4), dated 
9/19/07, show C222 as being 0.1 already.  The instructions recommend 
removing the existing 0.1 and replacing it with another 0.1 !!  Surely 
to reduce the rise time the existing capacitor should be shunted with 
another one.


Or do Rev A RF boards have a lower value for C222 than that shown on the 
schematic?


As I understand it, Wayne called for the modification earlier, but for 
some reason it didn't get reflected in production. That's why the 
schematic doesn't agree.


The old value was 1 uf and it the new, correct value is 0.1 uf.
--
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco
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[Elecraft] K3 - ERR PL1

2008-03-29 Thread Mike Harris
Good day,

Recently I noticed a brief flash of ERR PL1 when changing from 17M to 15M. 
It happened maybe a dozen times.  Not noticed before, not noticed since. 
I didn't record the exact frequency this was happening on.

PLL 1 voltage on 15M:

21.000  5.2
21.050  5.5
21.100  5.8
21.150  6.0
21.200  6.3
21.250  6.6
21.284.399  6.9
21.284.400  2.4
21.300  2.4
21.350  2.5
21.400  2.7
21.450  2.8

Looks like there is a VFO range switch near the middle of the band.  I 
assume this is normal.  I just might have been right on the transition 
point, though I believe I altered the tuning to see if the RX was working 
OK between tests.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO


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[Elecraft] K2 operation with internal battery

2008-03-29 Thread n0jrn

Hey gang:

Just a quick question. I've been reading the K2 manuals and have 
some minor confusion about the operation of the K2 using a power supply.


Can I operate the rig via a power supply with the internal
battery switch turned on???

Just want to be sure I'm not going to hurt something.  :-)

Manuals say I can charge the internal battery from a power supply with the 
battery switch in either position.


Just curious if I need to use caution while operating.

Thanks and 72:

Jerry N0JRN 


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Re: [Elecraft] Key line

2008-03-29 Thread Stephen W. Kercel

Tom:

This looks very well suited to my intended application.

73,

Steve



At 04:29 PM 3/29/2008, Tom Hammond wrote:

Steve:

See:  http://www.n0ss.net/k2_t-r_rly_drvr.pdf

73,

Tom   N0SS


At 15:06 03/29/2008, you wrote:

Elecrafters:

I was wondering how one gets a keyed line out of the K2 for keying 
an external QSK amplifier.


On the back of the K2 there is no "Key Out" or "Amp" jack or whatever.

Thanks and 73,

Steve Kercel
AA4AK


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Re: [Elecraft] Key line

2008-03-29 Thread Stephen W. Kercel

Ken:

This is just the sort of thing I was looking for.

73,

Steve


At 04:25 PM 3/29/2008, Ken Wagner wrote:

http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/Amp_keying_ckt.htm

73, Ken K3IU

Stephen W. Kercel wrote:

Elecrafters:

I was wondering how one gets a keyed line out of the K2 for keying 
an external QSK amplifier.


On the back of the K2 there is no "Key Out" or "Amp" jack or whatever.

Thanks and 73,

Steve Kercel
AA4AK


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Re: [Elecraft] CW rise time mod

2008-03-29 Thread Joseph Trombino Jr

Measured C222 in my K3 s/n 285 a while back and it is .1uf.

   73, Joe W2KJ
QRP, therefore I am
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RE: [Elecraft] CW rise time mod

2008-03-29 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Oops, make that originally a 1 uFD cap at C222. Now the recommended value is
0.1 uFd

Ron 

-Original Message-
From: Ron D'Eau Claire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 2:26 PM
To: 'David Pratt'; 'Elecraft Reflector'
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] CW rise time mod


Hi, David:

The original value for C222 was 0.01 uF. Wayne asked that it be changed to
0.1 uFd. 

I wasn't privy to the source of the comment that the rise time might be
further shortened in firmware. If Wayne plans to control the keying in
firmware, it's probably important that all the hardware be consistent with a
0.1uFd cap at C222 so the firmware works as planned. 

Ron AC7AC

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RE: [Elecraft] K2 KDSP2

2008-03-29 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A
I agree on this, that is if you have to change the settings of the NR.

For the AF filtering it's another case. After I set the AF filtering for
CW and SSB, it's a joy to use.

Another 2 cents...


73 Arie PA3A



-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens George Victor
Verzonden: zaterdag 29 maart 2008 19:00
Aan: Ken K3IU
CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; TWC
Onderwerp: Re: [Elecraft] K2 KDSP2


I hate that module. There is no reset, and once installed it is the most
unfriendly filter to use. In fact I pretty much put my K2 on the shelf
after putting in the KDSP2. Just my 2 cents. George
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RE: [Elecraft] CW rise time mod

2008-03-29 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Hi, David:

The original value for C222 was 0.01 uF. Wayne asked that it be changed to
0.1 uFd. 

I wasn't privy to the source of the comment that the rise time might be
further shortened in firmware. If Wayne plans to control the keying in
firmware, it's probably important that all the hardware be consistent with a
0.1uFd cap at C222 so the firmware works as planned. 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

Elecraft says.
"Some owners prefer a faster CW keying waveform rise time. The rise time 
can be reduced from about 8 milliseconds to 5 milliseconds without 
affecting the fall time by replacing capacitor C222 on the K3 main RF 
board with a 0.1 uF capacitor. This change will also allow a future 
firmware revision to further reduce rise time via a menu entry."

But the schematics of the RF Board Rev. A4 (Sheet 3 of 4), dated 
9/19/07, show C222 as being 0.1 already.  The instructions recommend 
removing the existing 0.1 and replacing it with another 0.1 !!  Surely 
to reduce the rise time the existing capacitor should be shunted with 
another one.

Or do Rev A RF boards have a lower value for C222 than that shown on the 
schematic?

73
-- 
David G4DMP
Leeds, England, UK


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Re: [Elecraft] CW rise time mod

2008-03-29 Thread Ken Wagner K3IU

I guess I didn't say... my K3 is #202
73,
Ken KIU

Don Ehrlich wrote:
That was me .. My actual measurement was 0.985 microfarad when I 
checked the RF board in S/N 195 I rounded it up to 1 microfarad in 
my earlier report.


Don K7FJ


Someone else here mentioned that  C222 was 1 uF, but I don't remember 
who it was.


73,
Ken K3IU






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Re: [Elecraft] CW rise time mod

2008-03-29 Thread Lyle Johnson
Or do Rev A RF boards have a lower value for C222 than that shown on the 
schematic?


Early production K3 RF boards have a 1 uF capacitor instead of a 0.1 uF 
capacitor installed at C222.  Yes, the published schematics show a 0.1 
uF capacitor.  The effect of the larger capacitor is to increase the TX 
waveform rise time to about 8 ms instead of 5 ms.


Rev B RF boards have the correct 0.1 uF value installed.  Sometime 
during Rev A RF board production, the value installed on the board was 
changed from 1 uF to 0.1 uF.


Surface mount ceramic capacitors are not marked with a value, so you 
cannot tell which you have by visual inspection.


You can determine if you have a 1 uF rather than a 0.1 uF by:

1) Measuring the capacitance if you have a capacitance meter.

2) Looking at the Tx output RF envelope on an oscilloscope or "station 
monitor" scope.  If the fall time and the rise time look very similar in 
duration, you have the 0.1 uF cap. If the rise time is about 50% longer 
than the fall time, you have the 1 uF capacitor.  You don't need an 
oscilloscope with an accurate time base to make this comparative 
measurement.  If your oscilloscope has a low bandwidth (2 to 10 MHz), 
use the 160 meter band.


3) If you are concerned that your unit may have the 1 uF capacitor and 
you have no way to determine it otherwise, you can just replace it with 
the 0.1 uF part and sleep better at night :-)


If you don't change it, you will not damage anything.  Your K3 will just 
have slightly softer keying and an upcoming firmware adjustment of the 
keying time will be less accurate.


73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] CW rise time mod

2008-03-29 Thread Don Ehrlich
That was me .. My actual measurement was 0.985 microfarad when I checked the 
RF board in S/N 195 I rounded it up to 1 microfarad in my earlier 
report.


Don K7FJ


Someone else here mentioned that  C222 was 1 uF, but I don't remember who 
it was.


73,
Ken K3IU




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Re: [Elecraft] CW rise time mod

2008-03-29 Thread David Pratt

In a recent message, Ken Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
I measured C222 *in place* with my aade cap checker and it measured ~1 
uF(actually 0.965 uF)... not the 0.1 in the schematic. I'm guessing 
that the schematic available for download is not current with 
production. Someone else here mentioned that  C222 was 1 uF, but I 
don't remember who it was.


Thanks Ken, and Dave G4AON, it looks as though a batch of RF boards were 
fitted with the wrong value of C222 SMD.  Perhaps we should all measure 
C222 before changing the capacitor.


73
--
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Leeds, England, UK


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Re: [Elecraft] Key line

2008-03-29 Thread Tom Hammond

Steve:

See:  http://www.n0ss.net/k2_t-r_rly_drvr.pdf

73,

Tom   N0SS


At 15:06 03/29/2008, you wrote:

Elecrafters:

I was wondering how one gets a keyed line out of the K2 for keying 
an external QSK amplifier.


On the back of the K2 there is no "Key Out" or "Amp" jack or whatever.

Thanks and 73,

Steve Kercel
AA4AK


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Re: [Elecraft] Key line

2008-03-29 Thread Ken Wagner

http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/Amp_keying_ckt.htm

73, Ken K3IU

Stephen W. Kercel wrote:

Elecrafters:

I was wondering how one gets a keyed line out of the K2 for keying an 
external QSK amplifier.


On the back of the K2 there is no "Key Out" or "Amp" jack or whatever.

Thanks and 73,

Steve Kercel
AA4AK


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Re: [Elecraft] CW rise time mod

2008-03-29 Thread Ken Wagner

Hi David:

I measured C222 *in place* with my aade cap checker and it measured ~1 
uF(actually 0.965 uF)... not the 0.1 in the schematic. I'm guessing that 
the schematic available for download is not current with production. 
Someone else here mentioned that  C222 was 1 uF, but I don't remember 
who it was.


73,
Ken K3IU

David Pratt wrote:

Elecraft says.
"Some owners prefer a faster CW keying waveform rise time. The rise 
time can be reduced from about 8 milliseconds to 5 milliseconds 
without affecting the fall time by replacing capacitor C222 on the K3 
main RF board with a 0.1 uF capacitor. This change will also allow a 
future firmware revision to further reduce rise time via a menu entry."


But the schematics of the RF Board Rev. A4 (Sheet 3 of 4), dated 
9/19/07, show C222 as being 0.1 already.  The instructions recommend 
removing the existing 0.1 and replacing it with another 0.1 !!  Surely 
to reduce the rise time the existing capacitor should be shunted with 
another one.


Or do Rev A RF boards have a lower value for C222 than that shown on 
the schematic?


73

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[Elecraft] CW rise time mod

2008-03-29 Thread Dave G4AON
It's easy, read the revision marked on the board edge in marker pen 
(ouch, couldn't resist that one).


Confusion seems to surround this whole issue, my K3 serial 80, which was 
shipped as a kit in November definitely didn't have a 100nF capacitor at 
C222 as the rise time dropped from 8mS to 5mS when I replaced the 
surface mount capacitor with one from a pack of 100nF ones. Others have 
mentioned the change not having been done on K3s with serial numbers in 
the 300 range.


The safe bet is to check the waveform with an oscilloscope.

73 Dave G4AON
K3/100 #80
-

Elecraft says.
"Some owners prefer a faster CW keying waveform rise time. The rise time
can be reduced from about 8 milliseconds to 5 milliseconds without
affecting the fall time by replacing capacitor C222 on the K3 main RF
board with a 0.1 uF capacitor. This change will also allow a future
firmware revision to further reduce rise time via a menu entry."

But the schematics of the RF Board Rev. A4 (Sheet 3 of 4), dated
9/19/07, show C222 as being 0.1 already. The instructions recommend
removing the existing 0.1 and replacing it with another 0.1 !! Surely
to reduce the rise time the existing capacitor should be shunted with
another one.

Or do Rev A RF boards have a lower value for C222 than that shown on the
schematic?

73
--
David G4DMP
Leeds, England, UK
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[Elecraft] Key line

2008-03-29 Thread Stephen W. Kercel

Elecrafters:

I was wondering how one gets a keyed line out of the K2 for keying an 
external QSK amplifier.


On the back of the K2 there is no "Key Out" or "Amp" jack or whatever.

Thanks and 73,

Steve Kercel
AA4AK


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[Elecraft] CW rise time mod

2008-03-29 Thread David Pratt

Elecraft says.
"Some owners prefer a faster CW keying waveform rise time. The rise time 
can be reduced from about 8 milliseconds to 5 milliseconds without 
affecting the fall time by replacing capacitor C222 on the K3 main RF 
board with a 0.1 uF capacitor. This change will also allow a future 
firmware revision to further reduce rise time via a menu entry."


But the schematics of the RF Board Rev. A4 (Sheet 3 of 4), dated 
9/19/07, show C222 as being 0.1 already.  The instructions recommend 
removing the existing 0.1 and replacing it with another 0.1 !!  Surely 
to reduce the rise time the existing capacitor should be shunted with 
another one.


Or do Rev A RF boards have a lower value for C222 than that shown on the 
schematic?


73
--
David G4DMP
Leeds, England, UK


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[Elecraft] K3 VFO rubber grip

2008-03-29 Thread Mike Scott
Thanks for the replies on getting my rubber grip off of my VFO A knob. I
needed to get it started with a wooden tool. I remember when I put the grip
on in the original build I thought it was tight. I was able to remove it
early on to adjust friction. This time it was much more difficult. Judging
from other replies I think mine is tighter than others. Anyway I am good to
go with a tightened VFO A encoder shaft.

Mike Scott - AE6WA
Tarzana, CA (DM04 / near LA)
K3-100 #508/ KX1  #1311



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[Elecraft] Z10000 Buffer Amplifier 2nd Run

2008-03-29 Thread Jack Smith
The second run of the Z1 IF sample buffer amplifiers is moving along 
well. I assembled one of  the new PCBs  today and have posted photos and 
measurement results at http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/Updates.htm 
under  the 29 March entry.


I'm looking for one or two Z1 purchasers with test equipment to 
assemble a kit and verify my reverse isolation measurements, which are 
significantly improved over the 70 dB figure I've been quoting. Details 
at the updates page.


Full availably of the Z1 kits is on track for mid-April or perhaps a 
few days earlier.



Jack K8ZOA
www.cliftonlaboratories.com
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 KDSP2

2008-03-29 Thread DW Holtman

George,

It is easy to remove, it you like the rig otherwise. Just my $0.02

Best,
DW Holtman
WB7SSN
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 KDSP2



I hate that module. There is no reset, and once installed it is the
most unfriendly filter to use.
In fact I pretty much put my K2 on the shelf after putting in the KDSP2.
Just my 2 cents.
George
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 KDSP2

2008-03-29 Thread George Victor
I hate that module. There is no reset, and once installed it is the
most unfriendly filter to use.
In fact I pretty much put my K2 on the shelf after putting in the KDSP2.
Just my 2 cents.
George
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Re: [Elecraft] Selecting An Iabic Key

2008-03-29 Thread Windy Dankoff KM5Q

There are so many to choose from that I had to find something really unique. 
It has NO moving parts, NO mechanical contacts:
http://www.cwtouchkeyer.com/

I got the vertical-motion Touch Tapper:
http://www.cwtouchkeyer.com/TT1.htm

I built it from a kit, and I love it. Nothing to fool with, it just works
perfectly by touch, at least for me. I find the vertical finger motion to be
much more natural than a paddle, like the motion of using a keyboard. I put
extra rubber feet right under the touch plates. My grandson can pound on it
and it doesn't walk around on the desk. But they make paddle-style also.
eHam reviews are mostly 5 (including mine).

This is the "solid state" approach  :-)

Windy KM5Q / Santa Fe, NM


   There are so many to choose from ... it's hard to make a single 
   recommendation
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[Elecraft] K3 Enhancements and Application Notes Page (CW rise

2008-03-29 Thread Phil & Debbie Salas
I'll have to open it up again and check.  My SN308 was shipped on 1/24/08, 
which I think is early for the Rev B board.  Maybe someone from Elecraft can 
tell us when the Rev B boards began shipping?


Phil - AD5X

"Hi Phil:  Did you check to see if you have a Rev B RF Board? The App Note 
says

that all Rev B RF Boards have the already have this incorporated... I'm
guessing without the leaded resistor between C196 and C197.  73, Ken K3IU" 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Enhancements and Application Notes Page (CW rise

2008-03-29 Thread Stewart Baker
Same here. My Serial # 307, didn't have it.

73
Stewart G3RXQ
On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:57:38 -0500, Phil & Debbie Salas wrote:
> My K3, Ser. No 308, does NOT have the HAGC mod.  So the SN 211
guestimate
> appears pretty far off.
>
> Phil - AD5X
>
> "Correct...units prior to ~211 will need it and afterwards will
not.  If
> yours is near 211 (+/-), you may need to check the capacitance
of C222 using
> a capacitance meter.  It should read ~0.1 uF (or ~100 pF) if the
mod has
> been installed (if not it will read ~1 uF).
>
> I'm guessing on this, and hopefully Eric or Wayne should
confirm, but I
> would expect that both the HAGC and keying mods were implemented
in
> production at the same time, since the S/N transition is the
same for both
> (i.e. ~211).  If this is true, you can easily determine if your
unit was
> modified by looking for a discrete 1.8k resistor installed
between C196 and
> C197 as shown in the HAGC mod instructions.  If that resistor is
in place,
> it's a good bet that C222 has been replaced as well, but a
capacitance meter
> will tell for sure.  73,  Bill  W4ZV"
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RE: [Elecraft] KX1 #2009 on air

2008-03-29 Thread

Hey Ron

I was reading all these great posts as I wait for my K3 (4 months from now
maybe) and a few KX1 posts got me to fire up the little KX1 and I am having
a blast again. Now I have the K1, KX1, and the K2 and don't think I can part
with any of them. Sure hope Elecraft doesn't come out with any new radio's,
my wife will kill me.

Werner  N8BB


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Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KX1 #2009 on air


Congratulations Hans!!

You are proof that there is life with Elecraft rigs other than the K3 ;-) 

My KX1 S/N 0004 is still an active little rig on 80/40/30/20. It's hard to
beat for a very portable, very capable and tremendously fun QRP CW rig. 

Ron AC7AC



-Original Message-

Hi Elecrafters,

Today KX1 # 2009 including 80/30 meters came succesfully alive...

Hans PC8E
K1 # 2308 K2 # 5793  K2 # 6332
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Enhancements and Application Notes Page (CW rise

2008-03-29 Thread Ken Wagner

Hi Phil:

Did you check to see if you have a Rev B RF Board? The App Note says 
that all Rev B RF Boards have the already have this incorporated... I'm 
guessing without the leaded resistor between C196 and C197.


73,
Ken K3IU
~

Phil & Debbie Salas wrote:
My K3, Ser. No 308, does NOT have the HAGC mod.  So the SN 211 
guestimate appears pretty far off.


Phil - AD5X


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[Elecraft] power troubles

2008-03-29 Thread Phil & Debbie Salas
How are you measuring power?  As stated before, unless you are using an 
active peak power reading wattmeter, you will not be correctly reading your 
peak SSB output.  My Diamond SX-1000 reads about 25% of the peak power on 
SSB.  My Array Solutions Powermaster reads the same peak power on SSB and 
CW.


Phil - AD5X 


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[Elecraft] K3 Enhancements and Application Notes Page (CW rise

2008-03-29 Thread Phil & Debbie Salas
My K3, Ser. No 308, does NOT have the HAGC mod.  So the SN 211 guestimate 
appears pretty far off.


Phil - AD5X

"Correct...units prior to ~211 will need it and afterwards will not.  If
yours is near 211 (+/-), you may need to check the capacitance of C222 using
a capacitance meter.  It should read ~0.1 uF (or ~100 pF) if the mod has
been installed (if not it will read ~1 uF).

I'm guessing on this, and hopefully Eric or Wayne should confirm, but I
would expect that both the HAGC and keying mods were implemented in
production at the same time, since the S/N transition is the same for both
(i.e. ~211).  If this is true, you can easily determine if your unit was
modified by looking for a discrete 1.8k resistor installed between C196 and
C197 as shown in the HAGC mod instructions.  If that resistor is in place,
it's a good bet that C222 has been replaced as well, but a capacitance meter
will tell for sure.  73,  Bill  W4ZV" 


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RE: [Elecraft] KX1 #2009 on air

2008-03-29 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Congratulations Hans!!

You are proof that there is life with Elecraft rigs other than the K3 ;-) 

My KX1 S/N 0004 is still an active little rig on 80/40/30/20. It's hard to
beat for a very portable, very capable and tremendously fun QRP CW rig. 

Ron AC7AC



-Original Message-

Hi Elecrafters,

Today KX1 # 2009 including 80/30 meters came succesfully alive...

Hans PC8E
K1 # 2308 K2 # 5793  K2 # 6332
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Kit vs. Factory - difference in delivery time?

2008-03-29 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Two weeks and counting ... 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 

> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hank k8dd
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> delivery time?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Darwin, Keith wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > How long was it from Katie-gram to rig-in-hand for your K3?
> >  
> > - Keith N1AS -
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> Three days from Katie-gram to a box being handed in the door
> in Michigan by the USPS rural mail lady.
> 
> 73HankK8DD
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] power troubles

2008-03-29 Thread Lee Buller

Todd...

More information please.  From readying your posts I am not sure what rig you 
have and what mode you are in and what exactly you are doing.  Could you be a 
little more specific as to the parameters you are using.

I have no issue with power with my K3 and my amp.  Perfect control on drive.  
Everything is grounded as per one post too.

Lee - K0WA



In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply.  If you don't 
have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it.  If you can't find 
any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense.  Is 
Common Sense divine?
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[Elecraft] power troubles

2008-03-29 Thread Ron Durie
Todd,

I had the exact same problem when I tried to use my K3 with my
amplifier.

I did not have a ground on the K3.  This was a test in a high RF
environment.  

When I grounded the K3 the problem disappeared.
When I grounded the power supply the problem disappeared.  
I now have both grounded.  

The K3 is performing as it should.   

73's Ron WB4OOA K3/100 #604




 



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Re: [Elecraft] power troubles

2008-03-29 Thread Ken, KA0W
I'll sell you my K2/100. It will run your AL-1200 to
full limit. I cannot use it with a high gain amp, such
as a HF-2500 Magnum (20w for 1.5kw), because of the
unstable K2/100 output. 

Ken, KA0W



  
--- Todd Ruby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well my problem is persisting. I TUNE to full power
> key the mike and  
> only peak 60 % of the 1.5 kw. Then I will TUNE again
> and quickly key  
> the mike and it will peak at the full 1.5 kw only to
> revert to a  
> lower level on subsequent keying of the mike.
> 
> this has not happened on any  other of the day since
> the radio went QRV
> 
> any help appreciated
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 73
> de
> todd
> WB2ZAB
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Re: [Elecraft] RE: Elecraft SSB Net on 40m - Calling Europe

2008-03-29 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Yes, I've made the same mistake they did in the US - I had no  
intention of excluding any SSB capable Elecraft.


I'm open to suggestions on time and freq - in fact, I don't have  
enough experience to know the best band at a given time - but thought  
I'd poll anyway.

73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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Anyone can do any amount of work, provided it isn't the work he is  
supposed

to be doing at that moment. -Robert Benchley

On 29 Mar 2008, at 14:24, Benny Aumala wrote:

How about net on 20m.
I cannot reach on 20m to the destinations
k3-boxes have landed.
Another idea: let us call it Elecraft-net.
K2 would be welcome, K3s are not so numerous, after all.

Benny  OH9NB

K2 #3969
K2 #119


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO A knob grip removal

2008-03-29 Thread Tom Hammond

Mike:

At 08:03 03/29/2008, you wrote:

I have found that my VFO A knob is loose and I suspect I need to tighten the
front-panel nut. It wiggles from side-to-side excessively. To do this I need
to remove the rubber grip. I have seen the procedure in the operator's
manual using my fingernails but this approach isn't going to work. Perhaps
the grip becomes stiff with age (one month). Short of cutting it off and
ordering a replacement grip what can I do? I don't know how I would cut it
off by the way. I might need to get a whole new knob and rubber grip; of
course I still would need to find a way to remove the knob but I at least
could use some tools to remove it in that case.

I tried some gentle warming with hot air directed on the knob, maybe I
should get more aggressive with this approach. I removed the grip once when
I first built the K3 in order to adjust friction so I do understand the
procedure offered in the manual. It was difficult at that time but doable.


I've had my (Field Test) K3 since JUNE '07, and the rubber ring still comes
off just as readily today as it did when I received the rig.

Try to use a fingernail (at the back edge of the ring, NOT at the back
edge of the KNOB itself) to slide the ring forward just a small amount,
then repeat this at several other points around the ring. Once you have
accomplished this, removing the ring the rest of the way should be a snap.

FAILING THIS, use a WOODEN toothpick to slightly wedge between the FRONT edge
of the ring and the knob. Once you get a bit of the rubber 'wedged' up, deposit
one (two max.) drops of isopropyl (medicine chest) alcohol in between the
ring and the knob. Repeat at a couple more spots around the knob. The alcohol
acts as a great lubricant and should allow the ring to slide off readily,
while the alcohol will evaporate quickly leaving no residue.

73,

Tom   N0SS

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit vs. Factory - difference in delivery time?

2008-03-29 Thread hank k8dd



Darwin, Keith wrote:
> 
> 
> How long was it from Katie-gram to rig-in-hand for your K3?
>  
> - Keith N1AS -
> 
> 


Three days from Katie-gram to a box being handed in the door
in Michigan by the USPS rural mail lady.

73HankK8DD

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[Elecraft] power troubles

2008-03-29 Thread Todd Ruby
Well my problem is persisting. I TUNE to full power key the mike and  
only peak 60 % of the 1.5 kw. Then I will TUNE again and quickly key  
the mike and it will peak at the full 1.5 kw only to revert to a  
lower level on subsequent keying of the mike.


this has not happened on any  other of the day since the radio went QRV

any help appreciated




73
de
todd
WB2ZAB

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[Elecraft] RE: Elecraft SSB Net on 40m - Calling Europe

2008-03-29 Thread Benny Aumala

How about net on 20m.
I cannot reach on 20m to the destinations
k3-boxes have landed.
Another idea: let us call it Elecraft-net.
K2 would be welcome, K3s are not so numerous, after all.

Benny  OH9NB

K2 #3969
K2 #119

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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 and Solar Panel

2008-03-29 Thread Ian Stirling
On Thursday 27 March 2008 05:53:48 pm Edward R. Breneiser wrote:

> I plan to conduct some tests. I have a small solar panel that puts out
> 50ma maximum. I'll connect it to my "pimped-out KX1" and see how it
> charges the 11.8v Li-Poly Battery. More to come...

  I wouldn't do it.
I am an AMA member and receive Model Aviation monthly.
I've read that Lithium Polymer batteries incorrectly
charged can burst into flames. Some model flyers charge
those batteries in a fireproof box or the domestic
fireplace even with a proper charger.

Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR, K2 #4962
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[Elecraft] power troubles

2008-03-29 Thread Dave G4AON
K3/100, firmware 1.78 MCU/1.58 DSP, mine gives plenty of RF envelope 
with a peak of 100W on my 100 MHz scope.
No issue with peaks, overshoot or anything at all, the audio reports 
from several stations are also very complimentary. There's nothing wrong 
with either the "loudness" of the signal or anything else.


Mic gain 30 (front panel, high gain setting), compression 20, microphone 
Kenwood MC-43S.


Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
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There have been numerous posts on this topic.

I wish somebody using current firmware would get out an oscilloscope and see
if the K3 putting out peak power or not on SSB. A study with various gain
and compression levels would help.

You can bet when my K3 arrives, I'll test this.

Meters (even "PEP" LED displays) can't be trusted to read peak power for
SSB.

K3KO
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 60m ERR TXG

2008-03-29 Thread Stewart Baker
On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 13:38:57 +, David Pratt wrote:
> In a recent message, Stewart Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
> ..
>> I am having difficulties getting a sufficient  bandwidth for
the
>> UK allocation which is 5405kHz to 5260kHz i.e 145kHz.
>> The bandwidth between ERR TXG messages is approximately 120kHz.
>>
>> Has anybody else had this problem ?
>>
> I had the problem with ERR TXG at 5260kHz (FA) initially when I
received
> my K3 s/n 0186, but after I peaked the two trimmers at 5290kHz
(FC) the
> K3 calibrates at 5W and 50W without any problem and runs full
power over
> the whole range from 5258.5 to 5406.5kHz.
>
> 73

Thanks David. Another one for support I think ...

73
Stewart G3RXQ

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 60m ERR TXG

2008-03-29 Thread David Pratt
In a recent message, Stewart Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote 
...

I am having difficulties getting a sufficient  bandwidth for the
UK allocation which is 5405kHz to 5260kHz i.e 145kHz.
The bandwidth between ERR TXG messages is approximately 120kHz.

Has anybody else had this problem ?


I had the problem with ERR TXG at 5260kHz (FA) initially when I received 
my K3 s/n 0186, but after I peaked the two trimmers at 5290kHz (FC) the 
K3 calibrates at 5W and 50W without any problem and runs full power over 
the whole range from 5258.5 to 5406.5kHz.


73

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[Elecraft] WA3WSJ: Footsteps Into Maryland

2008-03-29 Thread Edward R. Breneiser
Hello all,

I've revised my hike schedule. As I looked at the distance I need to
cover this season, it was obvious to me that I needed to start in April.
This gives me some room to move the dates back or forward -hi! If you
would like to see the new four-hike series that I call my Footsteps Into
Maryland Hike," click on the link below. As always, I plan to take my
KX1 on the trail with me.

http://wa3wsj.homestead.com/Hiking.html

72,
Roo Bear Ed, WA3WSJ

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[Elecraft] K3 VFO A knob grip removal

2008-03-29 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
Mike:

My K3 (#295) is now almost exactly 2 months old.  The "fingernail"
method still works here (just tried it).  I cannot say if Elecraft
changed the grip material between yours and mine, cuz I don't know.

Alternatively, I tired (just now):

Using the "cap" from a ball point pen and pushing the part of the cap
that "hangs onto your shirt pocket" between the knob and the grip.  It
worked fine.  This "separates" the two and allows for "access" to the
rubbery grip.

Then I also tried using a small "blade type" screwdriver (as opposed
to a phillips, etc) and that worked much better, but you risk marring
up the knob.

After using either method (or both, depending upon what you have
around the shack), you can use a needle-nosed or long-nosed pliers to
grab the "rubbery grip" and gently pull it forward a little.  Then you
can easily go back to the fingernail method.

And with respect to the fingernail method, try using two hands at
once.  Place your thumb(s) on the flat surface of the knob, then place
your hands around the knob/grib (one "left" and one "right").  Then
reach back to where the rubbery grip meets (met) the back of the knob
(there should now be a "gap" there, since you pulled it the grip
forward a little with a pliers), and continue to slid it off of the
knob.

Good Luck!
de Doug KR2Q (supposedly in the WPX contest right now, but gosh, the
bands are bad).
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Re: [Elecraft] power troubles

2008-03-29 Thread K3KO

There have been numerous posts on this topic.

I wish somebody using current firmware would get out an oscilloscope and see
if the K3 putting out peak power or not on SSB.   A study with various gain
and compression levels would help.  

You can bet when my K3 arrives, I'll test this.

Meters (even "PEP" LED displays) can't be trusted to read peak power for
SSB.

K3KO


Todd Ruby wrote:
> 
> here is the situation: I hold xmit to tune the ameritron al 1200 to  
> 1400 watts.Then when  I key the mike all i am getting is 300 watts  
> out. i hold tune again and it is showing hi power.
> 
> help pse!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 73
> de
> todd
> WB2ZAB
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO A knob grip removal

2008-03-29 Thread AD6XY - Mike

Don't cut it off. If it will not come loose, work out where the hole is for
the grub screw and carefully make some holes in the grip at the same place.
Figure 45 in the assembly manual shows where the screw hold is relative to
the dimple.

Mike



Mike Scott-7 wrote:
> 
> I have found that my VFO A knob is loose and I suspect I need to tighten
> the
> front-panel nut. It wiggles from side-to-side excessively. To do this I
> need
> to remove the rubber grip. I have seen the procedure in the operator's
> manual using my fingernails but this approach isn't going to work. Perhaps
> the grip becomes stiff with age (one month). Short of cutting it off and
> ordering a replacement grip what can I do? I don't know how I would cut it
> off by the way. I might need to get a whole new knob and rubber grip; of
> course I still would need to find a way to remove the knob but I at least
> could use some tools to remove it in that case.
> 
> I tried some gentle warming with hot air directed on the knob, maybe I
> should get more aggressive with this approach. I removed the grip once
> when
> I first built the K3 in order to adjust friction so I do understand the
> procedure offered in the manual. It was difficult at that time but doable. 
> 
> Mike Scott - AE6WA
> Tarzana, CA (DM04 / near LA)
> K3-100 #508/ KX1  #1311
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO A knob grip removal

2008-03-29 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF

It certainly hasn't become stiff after 3 months on my K3.
not sure why fingernail won't work for you?
I can just put both thumbs on the front of the knob at about 10-to-2  
and put 2 fingers from each hand 'over' the know and us my nails to  
gently pull the rubber grip forward. As I do that I can move my  
fingers futher over the rubber and it gets easier too.


How about a plastic knife or wooden implement - a lolly-pop stick we'd  
say, you might say popsicle (if I understand the item correctly),  
perhaps a gentle prizing around the rubbish at the back?


I'm guessing you didn't build the kit otherwise you would know how it  
went on and how easy it actually is to remove.
Take a look at the on-line assembly manual if you haven't got one to  
see.

73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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On 29 Mar 2008, at 13:03, Mike Scott wrote:
I have found that my VFO A knob is loose and I suspect I need to  
tighten the
front-panel nut. It wiggles from side-to-side excessively. To do  
this I need

to remove the rubber grip. I have seen the procedure in the operator's
manual using my fingernails but this approach isn't going to work.  
Perhaps
the grip becomes stiff with age (one month). Short of cutting it off  
and
ordering a replacement grip what can I do? I don't know how I would  
cut it
off by the way. I might need to get a whole new knob and rubber  
grip; of
course I still would need to find a way to remove the knob but I at  
least

could use some tools to remove it in that case.

I tried some gentle warming with hot air directed on the knob, maybe I
should get more aggressive with this approach. I removed the grip  
once when
I first built the K3 in order to adjust friction so I do understand  
the
procedure offered in the manual. It was difficult at that time but  
doable.


Mike Scott - AE6WA
Tarzana, CA (DM04 / near LA)
K3-100 #508/ KX1  #1311


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[Elecraft] K3 VFO A knob grip removal

2008-03-29 Thread Mike Scott
I have found that my VFO A knob is loose and I suspect I need to tighten the
front-panel nut. It wiggles from side-to-side excessively. To do this I need
to remove the rubber grip. I have seen the procedure in the operator's
manual using my fingernails but this approach isn't going to work. Perhaps
the grip becomes stiff with age (one month). Short of cutting it off and
ordering a replacement grip what can I do? I don't know how I would cut it
off by the way. I might need to get a whole new knob and rubber grip; of
course I still would need to find a way to remove the knob but I at least
could use some tools to remove it in that case.

I tried some gentle warming with hot air directed on the knob, maybe I
should get more aggressive with this approach. I removed the grip once when
I first built the K3 in order to adjust friction so I do understand the
procedure offered in the manual. It was difficult at that time but doable. 

Mike Scott - AE6WA
Tarzana, CA (DM04 / near LA)
K3-100 #508/ KX1  #1311


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Enhancements and Application Notes Page (CW rise time)

2008-03-29 Thread Bill W4ZV



michael taylor-3 wrote:
> 
> 
> I thought it is meant to be read, any K3 _up to_ S/N 211 may need the
> modification. I take it that after that point in time a change was
> made. Or am I just reading things backwards? Similar to how a number
> of modifications were available/needed for early model K2s whereas a
> late model K2 had very few mods / re-work needed.
> 

Correct...units prior to ~211 will need it and afterwards will not.  If
yours is near 211 (+/-), you may need to check the capacitance of C222 using
a capacitance meter.  It should read ~0.1 uF (or ~100 pF) if the mod has
been installed (if not it will read ~1 uF).

I'm guessing on this, and hopefully Eric or Wayne should confirm, but I
would expect that both the HAGC and keying mods were implemented in
production at the same time, since the S/N transition is the same for both
(i.e. ~211).  If this is true, you can easily determine if your unit was
modified by looking for a discrete 1.8k resistor installed between C196 and
C197 as shown in the HAGC mod instructions.  If that resistor is in place,
it's a good bet that C222 has been replaced as well, but a capacitance meter
will tell for sure.

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Re: [Elecraft] power troubles

2008-03-29 Thread Jim Cox
Are you using a true peak reading wattmeter?  An average meter will only 
read about what your seeing.  Jim K4JAF



- Original Message - 
From: "Todd Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 7:54 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] power troubles


here is the situation: I hold xmit to tune the ameritron al 1200 to  1400 
watts.Then when  I key the mike all i am getting is 300 watts  out. i hold 
tune again and it is showing hi power.


help pse!




73
de
todd
WB2ZAB

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[Elecraft] KX1 #2009 on air

2008-03-29 Thread Hans van de Wijgerd
Hi Elecrafters,

Today KX1 # 2009 including 80/30 meters came succesfully alive...

Hans PC8E
K1 # 2308 K2 # 5793  K2 # 6332
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[Elecraft] K3 60m ERR TXG

2008-03-29 Thread Dave G4AON

Stewart

Mine works fine from 5.150 to 5.419 MHz with 95 Watts output when set to 
"100W" on the K3 and no sign of ERR TXG messages. The alignment is set 
at the factory.


On another 5 MHz issue, the spurious levels are poor and below 
specification on frequencies below the point where a relay clicks (5.250 
MHz), above that point they are OK.  There are spurious signals approx 1 
MHz either side of the main signal that are -46 dBc when the output is 
95 Watts on 5.150 MHz.


73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
==
Following the recent posting of the European 60m BPF adjustments,
I decided to set mine up.

I am having difficulties getting a sufficient bandwidth for the
UK allocation which is 5405kHz to 5260kHz i.e 145kHz.
The bandwidth between ERR TXG messages is approximately 120kHz.

I think that the US allocation runs between 5405kHz and 5332kHz
i.e 73kHz, so that should not give any errors.

Has anybody else had this problem ?

73
Stewart G3RXQ
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[Elecraft] K3 60m ERR TXG

2008-03-29 Thread Stewart Baker
Following the recent posting of the European 60m BPF adjustments,
I decided to set mine up.

I am having difficulties getting a sufficient  bandwidth for the
UK allocation which is 5405kHz to 5260kHz i.e 145kHz.
The bandwidth between ERR TXG messages is approximately 120kHz.

I think that the US allocation runs between 5405kHz and 5332kHz
i.e 73kHz, so that should not give any errors.

Has anybody else had this problem ?

73
Stewart G3RXQ
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[Elecraft] power troubles

2008-03-29 Thread Dave G4AON

Todd

Since the original manual was written, there's been a subtle change to 
the operation of the TUNE button on the K3:


Originally the TUNE button gave a power level as set by the PWR control, 
in the more recent firmware the way it operates is different.


There is a menu setting of "TUN PWR" which I have set to 09.0, this 
gives 9 Watts when TUNE is pressed, I can still alter the power under 
TUNE by turning the PWR control (it reverts to 9 Watts after releasing 
the TUNE button). When I release TUNE the power returns to the normal 
use of the PWR control. With my Acom I normally drive it with about 25 
Watts for 400 Watts output.


If you set the menu item to "TUN PWR" to "nor" it will work at the same 
level as PWR is set.


Not sure if that was/is the issue or not...

73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
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here is the situation: I hold xmit to tune the ameritron al 1200 to
1400 watts.Then when I key the mike all i am getting is 300 watts
out. i hold tune again and it is showing hi power.

help pse!

73
de
todd
WB2ZAB
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[Elecraft] k2 - low sensitivity/audio - me too

2008-03-29 Thread sergio


i have  been trying to post my issues with K2... but the spam filters  
keep kicking it back out..


if anyone has any experience with this issue, can you take a look at  
this link?


http://www.village-buzz.com/2008/03/29/k2-low-sensitivityaudio-me-too/

this is the only way i can get this to go through.. sorry about  
posting the link..



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