Re: [Elecraft] K3 Variable amp keying delay >>not long enough!!??
I would be tempted to replace the 120VAC relay with a dc relay and key it directly from the rig. Don't forget to fit a diode across it to squash the back emf. This may have other ramifications and might not be this simple, but it's well worth consideration. David G3UNA The FAQ for the K3 promised a 0-50 ms amp keying delay. We got only 0-20 ms in the latest release.I don't think 20 ms is enough in my case, based on my primitive research. Several "experts" have said mine might need as much as 30-35 ms. My amp's relay is a 30 yr old Potter & Brumfield open frame model with a 120vac coil. To make things worse, since the K3 will not switch 120vac, I must use another relay with a 12vdc coil in the line between the K3 and the amp, which in turn pulls in the P&B relay. This exacerbates the matter by taking even more time, and I'm afraid to try anything for fear it will damage the K3 and the amp. Am I wrong?? Anyone care to comment?? One of the many reasons I bought the K3 was to be able to operate at least semi break in CW and VOX with my old amp without hot switching, by virtue of having ample switching delay. I've waited months for the feature and am disappointed.. However, I hasten to add this: As a K2 user/owner/builder, I expected much in the K3. I got much more than I expected. I gave up a nice Icom Pro 3 for the K3 and don't miss the Pro 3 one iota. The K3 is unbelievable in what it can do and how superbly it does it. And getting new firmware is icing on the cake. But I sure wish I had 0-50ms amp delay capability! How about it, Wayne? George, N4YM K2 # 4758 K3 # 340 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] no issues with output power on ssb!
Fern Rivard wrote: I fail to understand what the big complaint is with low ssb power with your K3. My K3 is serial 4XX and have had it for approximately 2 months. My output power is identical on ssb as it is on cw. I have refused to download any of the new firmware as my radio has been working great as it. I am anxiously waiting a version of firmware that doesn't have any bugs left in it and I will then upgrade. My word Fern, you are going to be waiting for some time :) 73 Ian -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC DX Cluster Member RSGB, GQRP K2 #4044 |K3 #455 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Bluetooth to RS232
Hi, I don't know, but if you stay around your rig, I think you don't need much. With an antenna, bluetooth standard area is around 10m. So, I would guess that very near, within a meter, only a small wire should do the job. Just a guess And yes, this is really cool. Because I have only one serial port on my laptop, I can now use my SCS PTC-IIe with my K2 and have the control feature by using bluetooth. Less cable is something quite useful. If you try it with this interface, let us know !!! :-) 73 J-F VA2SS Mike Scott-7 wrote: > > I wonder how I would mount an antenna on a K3; if it were internal > it seems to me that the case would severely impede signal. > - === de J-F VA2SS -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Bluetooth-to-RS232-tp17136429p17141326.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Filter set up.
Well SN 790 is built no real mechanical issues. One large inner tooth lockwasher was missing and a longer black screw to fix the transistor to the bottom cover. I was performing some of the set up at the end and was having trouble setting the bandwith for the filters that were installed. The menu shows the 2.7 filter in FL1. I have a 250Hz filter in FL4 but when I tap 4 to select that slot, vfo a doesnt let me select 250 for the bandwidth. Am I missing something step wise? Been building for abt 7-8 hours straight so I may be a bit foggy. Mike/aj9c ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: ERR VCO Problem Activity Log
Greg wrote:
Don made a good point. When you assembled the power pole, did you make sure
when inserting the pins that you heard a distinct click? If not, they may
not be completly seated. Try pushing them in more to see if they click.
Greg
-Original Message-
From: Dick Roth KA1OZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 6:55 PM
To: Greg
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ERR VCO Problem Activity Log
Greg wrote:
So Dick...what is it doing now? When the VCO CAL went slowly and the
speeding up some toward the end is correct behavior.
Are you hearing normal signals now? Have you done the REF CAL and TX Gain
CAL?
Greg
{snip}
I successfully ran the REF CAL and TX Gain last night while the radio
was in its glory. Now if I can only turn it on and off when I want
to...(pardon the whine).
What else can I do to provide hints of the radio's health?
--
73,
Dick ka1oz
Middleborough, MA
K3/100(Kit) SN 000859
Titan-DX (to come)
I started with DC. APP connectors are firm in their sockets and no
wiggling causes outages. When I installed the front panel, I was keenly
aware from list traffic that great care had to be taken during this
process. I looked at each connecting point of each connector. I've
also given the baby "therapeutic taps" to see if anything was loose.
If you guys don't mind...its 2317 here and I rise at 0500 to pay the
mortgage, so I'll follow up tomorrow.
ttfn &
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Dick ka1oz
Middleborough, MA
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Titan-DX (to come)
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Fw: [Elecraft] K3 no issues with output power on ssb!
Is the K3's wattmeter a "peak reading" type? If so, it only kicks up to about 50 watts until I increase the TXG VCE to 3 db which makes it double to 100 watts. So far, audio reports are good. Someone here reported distortion of some kind when doing this however. I really need a proper external peak reading meter to check this. Most of them I read about are not accurate. I might order the Palstar. It seems to have a good reputation. Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Fern Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Elecraft Reflector" Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:07 PM Subject: [Elecraft] no issues with output power on ssb! I fail to understand what the big complaint is with low ssb power with your K3. My K3 is serial 4XX and have had it for approximately 2 months. My output power is identical on ssb as it is on cw. I have refused to download any of the new firmware as my radio has been working great as it. I am anxiously waiting a version of firmware that doesn't have any bugs left in it and I will then upgrade. Just my 2 cents worth from FernVE7GZ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.10/1421 - Release Date: 5/7/2008 5:23 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] no issues with output power on ssb!
I fail to understand what the big complaint is with low ssb power with your K3. My K3 is serial 4XX and have had it for approximately 2 months. My output power is identical on ssb as it is on cw. I have refused to download any of the new firmware as my radio has been working great as it. I am anxiously waiting a version of firmware that doesn't have any bugs left in it and I will then upgrade. Just my 2 cents worth from FernVE7GZ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Dayton Contest University
I'll be there. Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julius Fazekas Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 8:51 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Dayton Contest University Any Elecraft owners attending CU at Dayton this time around? Would like to meet anyone who feels so inclined. 73, Julius Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #3311 Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2: What do you have in your portable/travel kit?
Summer is around the corner (finally here, up at the arctic circle). Those of you organized enough to have the K2 ready to be taken on the road or on the trail on a short notice, what do you have in that travel kit, aside from the K2 itself? CW-key, mike, headphones, log book, pre-cut antenna wire, telescoping pole,...? 73 - Kristinn, TF3KX -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K2%3A-What-do-you-have-in-your-portable-travel-kit--tp17140215p17140215.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: ERR VCO Problem Activity Log
Check DC - start at the powerpole. Elecraft] Re: ERR VCO Problem Activity Log Dick Roth KA1OZ raroth7 at comcast.net Thu May 8 21:36:44 EDT 2008 News flash!!! While tilting the radio on its hind feet and pressing the power button, while attempting to read a possibly unlit LCD, the damn thing turned on!! I will not turn it off unless I must until I have performed whatever adjustment you recommend. ttfn & -- 73, Dick ka1oz Middleborough, MA K3/100(Kit) SN 000859 Titan-DX (to come) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: ERR VCO Problem Activity Log
Greg wrote:
Dick,
Even though the FP LCD does not light up, Do you see anything on the display
like MCU LD?
Greg
-Original Message-
From: Dick Roth KA1OZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 6:04 PM
To: Greg; Elecraft Reflector
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ERR VCO Problem Activity Log
Greg wrote:
Dick. Any luck on this yet? If not, you may need to adjust the
spacking of the L1 winding on the SYN board that is attached to the DSP
shield. If that's the case, when we hear back (please use reply all)
and Gary or I will send you exactly what to do.
Greg
- Original Message - From: "Dick Roth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:26 PM
Subject: ERR VCO Problem Activity Log
Hi Support--
SN 859, here!
Here's the FW list and the Activity Log:
{snip}
:24:14 DSP1 verification succeeded
19:24:14 DSP1 firmware load is complete
19:24:14 Setting K3 RS-232 to 4800 bits per second
19:24:15 Elapsed time: 273 seconds
19:24:15 Ready
There you go!
73,
Dick ka1oz
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Until yesterday morning, I hadn't gotten past the VCO test. It was
consistent with the following error messages:
E 5
ERR VCO
E 00255
ERR VC4
I ran the test this morning with no error message, however instead of
clicking along at a very good clip, it began with the word "busy" and
then a slow count up to cal 127 and then to frequency readout normally.
I can now hear traffic (net on 3.905 mc)!
Well then I got home this evening and found the K3 doa. When I push the
"Power" button, there's a bit of a draw on the power supply and I hear a
relay clicking, but the front panel will not light and no functions are
available. I tried going through the Theory in the manual and scoured
the schemagics, but can't figure out the power distribution architecture.
This bums me out since I finally got the REF and SYN to play nice and I
was getting into listening to ssb net traffic (and the ball game).
I have a call in to Aptos, but they're on the other coast and I think
they probably went home (if they have any sense). Does anyone on the
list have any ideas?
ttfn &
--
73,
Dick ka1oz
Middleborough, MA
K3/100(Kit) SN 000859
Titan-DX (to come)
News flash!!! While tilting the radio on its hind feet and pressing the
power button, while attempting to read a possibly unlit LCD, the damn
thing turned on!!
I will not turn it off unless I must until I have performed whatever
adjustment you recommend.
ttfn &
--
73,
Dick ka1oz
Middleborough, MA
K3/100(Kit) SN 000859
Titan-DX (to come)
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[Elecraft] RE: ERR VCO Problem Activity Log
Dick,
Even though the FP LCD does not light up, Do you see anything on the display
like MCU LD?
Greg
-Original Message-
From: Dick Roth KA1OZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 6:04 PM
To: Greg; Elecraft Reflector
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ERR VCO Problem Activity Log
Greg wrote:
> Dick. Any luck on this yet? If not, you may need to adjust the
> spacking of the L1 winding on the SYN board that is attached to the DSP
> shield. If that's the case, when we hear back (please use reply all)
> and Gary or I will send you exactly what to do.
>
> Greg
>
> - Original Message - From: "Dick Roth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:26 PM
> Subject: ERR VCO Problem Activity Log
>
>
>> Hi Support--
>>
>> SN 859, here!
>>
>> Here's the FW list and the Activity Log:
>>
{snip}
:24:14 DSP1 verification succeeded
>> 19:24:14 DSP1 firmware load is complete
>> 19:24:14 Setting K3 RS-232 to 4800 bits per second
>> 19:24:15 Elapsed time: 273 seconds
>> 19:24:15 Ready
>>
>> There you go!
>>
>> 73,
>> Dick ka1oz
>>
>>
>>
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>> Release Date: 5/5/2008 5:11 PM
>>
>>
>
>
Until yesterday morning, I hadn't gotten past the VCO test. It was
consistent with the following error messages:
E 5
ERR VCO
E 00255
ERR VC4
I ran the test this morning with no error message, however instead of
clicking along at a very good clip, it began with the word "busy" and
then a slow count up to cal 127 and then to frequency readout normally.
I can now hear traffic (net on 3.905 mc)!
Well then I got home this evening and found the K3 doa. When I push the
"Power" button, there's a bit of a draw on the power supply and I hear a
relay clicking, but the front panel will not light and no functions are
available. I tried going through the Theory in the manual and scoured
the schemagics, but can't figure out the power distribution architecture.
This bums me out since I finally got the REF and SYN to play nice and I
was getting into listening to ssb net traffic (and the ball game).
I have a call in to Aptos, but they're on the other coast and I think
they probably went home (if they have any sense). Does anyone on the
list have any ideas?
ttfn &
--
73,
Dick ka1oz
Middleborough, MA
K3/100(Kit) SN 000859
Titan-DX (to come)
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[Elecraft] Re: ERR VCO Problem Activity Log
Greg wrote:
Dick. Any luck on this yet? If not, you may need to adjust the
spacking of the L1 winding on the SYN board that is attached to the DSP
shield. If that's the case, when we hear back (please use reply all)
and Gary or I will send you exactly what to do.
Greg
- Original Message - From: "Dick Roth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:26 PM
Subject: ERR VCO Problem Activity Log
Hi Support--
SN 859, here!
Here's the FW list and the Activity Log:
{snip}
:24:14 DSP1 verification succeeded
19:24:14 DSP1 firmware load is complete
19:24:14 Setting K3 RS-232 to 4800 bits per second
19:24:15 Elapsed time: 273 seconds
19:24:15 Ready
There you go!
73,
Dick ka1oz
--
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.9/1416 -
Release Date: 5/5/2008 5:11 PM
Until yesterday morning, I hadn't gotten past the VCO test. It was
consistent with the following error messages:
E 5
ERR VCO
E 00255
ERR VC4
I ran the test this morning with no error message, however instead of
clicking along at a very good clip, it began with the word "busy" and
then a slow count up to cal 127 and then to frequency readout normally.
I can now hear traffic (net on 3.905 mc)!
Well then I got home this evening and found the K3 doa. When I push the
"Power" button, there's a bit of a draw on the power supply and I hear a
relay clicking, but the front panel will not light and no functions are
available. I tried going through the Theory in the manual and scoured
the schemagics, but can't figure out the power distribution architecture.
This bums me out since I finally got the REF and SYN to play nice and I
was getting into listening to ssb net traffic (and the ball game).
I have a call in to Aptos, but they're on the other coast and I think
they probably went home (if they have any sense). Does anyone on the
list have any ideas?
ttfn &
--
73,
Dick ka1oz
Middleborough, MA
K3/100(Kit) SN 000859
Titan-DX (to come)
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[Elecraft] Re: K3 Variable amp keying delay >>not long enough!!??
George, Before settling on a max of 20 ms we looked at a number of amplifiers and got input from several "experts. If yours (or others) really need more than 20 ms, I can increase the delay with some additional work. Please contact me directly if you find out any more about your particular delay time requirements. tnx Wayne N6KR On May 8, 2008, at 5:53 PM, George wrote: The FAQ for the K3 promised a 0-50 ms amp keying delay. We got only 0-20 ms in the latest release.I don't think 20 ms is enough in my case, based on my primitive research. Several "experts" have said mine might need as much as 30-35 ms. My amp's relay is a 30 yr old Potter & Brumfield open frame model with a 120vac coil. --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Variable amp keying delay >>not long enough!!??
The FAQ for the K3 promised a 0-50 ms amp keying delay. We got only 0-20 ms in the latest release.I don't think 20 ms is enough in my case, based on my primitive research. Several "experts" have said mine might need as much as 30-35 ms. My amp's relay is a 30 yr old Potter & Brumfield open frame model with a 120vac coil. To make things worse, since the K3 will not switch 120vac, I must use another relay with a 12vdc coil in the line between the K3 and the amp, which in turn pulls in the P&B relay. This exacerbates the matter by taking even more time, and I'm afraid to try anything for fear it will damage the K3 and the amp. Am I wrong?? Anyone care to comment?? One of the many reasons I bought the K3 was to be able to operate at least semi break in CW and VOX with my old amp without hot switching, by virtue of having ample switching delay. I've waited months for the feature and am disappointed.. However, I hasten to add this: As a K2 user/owner/builder, I expected much in the K3. I got much more than I expected. I gave up a nice Icom Pro 3 for the K3 and don't miss the Pro 3 one iota. The K3 is unbelievable in what it can do and how superbly it does it. And getting new firmware is icing on the cake. But I sure wish I had 0-50ms amp delay capability! How about it, Wayne? George, N4YM K2 # 4758 K3 # 340 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft email List Official Guidelines
- Original Message - From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 6:47 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft email List Official Guidelines Elecraft Mail LIST GUIDELINES For those of you who are new to the list, (and for those of us who have rapidly failing memories..), here is a quick list of things to remember when posting to this list. Please save this for future reference. The most important thing to remember is that this is only a hobby - Let's have fun! Thanks for the reminder Eric. Some of the recent posts were starting to get my goat _HI! I was tempted, but didn't respond. I shouldn't read this reflector aftter being out to "dinner" with the neighbors _HI! Sorry guys, lets lighten up. 73, John, W2GW ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 836 noTX
charles-70 M0BIN wrote: > > ERR TXF error message received when attempting low power calibration. > > No power out on CW or SSB. > > I have studied the trouble shooting pages in the Owner's manual but cannot > find the answer. > ERR TXF normally indicates CONFIG: FXTX is not set correctly (p.44 and 51 of manual). It should be set to 2.7 or 2.8 for both CW and SSB. 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-836-noTX-tp17124215p17125107.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] A Better Way?
It seems like many folks on here have THEIR "better way" for Elecraft to do just about anything and everything. Instead of being satisfied with all of the good things that Elecraft does do, they find all kinds of things to whine and complain about. They seem to have a better way to do the firmware upgrades, design the hardware, update the documentation and manuals, etc, etc. How about letting Wayne, Eric and company do what we already know they do best? Suggestions are fine and they seem to appreciate them. However, just plant the seed and don't go on for paragraph after paragraph of just how it should be done. I'm sure many, like myself, get tired of paging through all of this junk while looking for things that might be helpful. What other radio manufacturer even offers a forum like this? Focus on the good, make a straight to the point suggestion if necessary, and stop whining and complaining. It seems like many must spend more time thinking about posts than operating their K3s and other Elecraft radios. Get on the air. Well done Wayne and Eric. Keep doing things your way. It works. 73, Dave N8AG Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 DVD?
I agree, it would be great to see a video of the K3 demonstrating its abilities. A DVD could work, or they could make them even more convenient to watch and take the approach that TenTec did and put the videos up on their website. See http://radio.tentec.com/video (Or do both!) 73 de Greg N3ZL Gary D Krause wrote: It would be great if Elecraft would sell a DVD of the K3. Since it's hard to get a good picture of exactly how it sounds and how it operates. A nice demo would be good for those of us considering it. You Tube videos just don't do it justice. I would like to hear it as well as see it since I can't get my hands on one. Of course, I'm sure they are so busy right now that there would be very little time to produce one. But, it's just a thought. Gary, N7HTS ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 - Linking the VFOs for CW - SSB switching
I doubt that processor (or its family) is going away any time soon. As long as there is strong demand for the K2, we will continue manufacturing it. 73, Eric WA6HHQ Darrell Bellerive wrote: The consensus to my last enquiry regarding future K2 firmware upgrades was that K2 development is dead. There will not be anymore K2 firmware upgrades, and once the MCU is discontinued by the manufacturer, the K2 be discontinued. On Saturday 03 May 2008 03:49, David Pratt wrote: I wonder whether Elecraft would consider this with the next K2 MCU upgrade? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 troubles
Scott, Did you take good care to observe proper anti-static measures (wrist strap and anti-static pad) when handling and installing the new microprocessor? If not, the new microprocessor may have been damaged. Try putting the old on back in (observing antistatic precautions) and see if it restores proper operation - you will, of course, have the original problem back. 73, Don W3FPR Scott McDowell wrote: Hello My K2 has worked really good since I finished building and trouble shooting it about three weeks ago. It had excellent receive and transmit and everything worked fine except for one thing. The low battery info message kept coming on every eight minutes. I should have left it like that, but the message got to bugging me so I ordered another micrprocessor (ctrl board U6) and installed it. The microprocessor was only six weeks older than the original one, so I thought that all I would have to do is swap them out. (Wrong) Since I installed the new microprocessor three days ago nothing works except the display. No sound and no transmitt. Now, three days later the display has started acting up. It doesn't work on forty meters, but works on the other bands, at least for now. I was very careful to install it correctly with no bent pins. Could this be another bad microprocessor, or could something else be causing all these problems? Anyone have any ideas? Thanks Scott N5SM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.9/1419 - Release Date: 5/7/2008 7:46 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 - Linking the VFOs for CW - SSB switching
The consensus to my last enquiry regarding future K2 firmware upgrades was that K2 development is dead. There will not be anymore K2 firmware upgrades, and once the MCU is discontinued by the manufacturer, the K2 be discontinued. On Saturday 03 May 2008 03:49, David Pratt wrote: > I wonder whether Elecraft would consider this with > the next K2 MCU upgrade? -- Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft email List Official Guidelines
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 836 noTX
Charles, ERR TXF indicates that you have not selected the 2.7k (or 2.8k) filter for CW and SSB transmit. The transmit filters are to be set up per mode. See page 44 of the operator's manual. 73, Don W3FPR charles wrote: ERR TXF error message received when attempting low power calibration. No power out on CW or SSB. I have studied the trouble shooting pages in the Owner's manual but cannot find the answer. Any suggestions please? Charles - M0BIN Sorry I should have stated that firmware revisions are: MCU 1.88DSP 1.70 Using Elecraft Utility version 1.1.4.1 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Manuals
I agree with using PDF, a manual with page number as suggested and the manual rev on each page as a footer so you know when a paged changed is a good idea. God, takes me back to my early DEC years! -- Everything secret degenerates, even the administration of justice; nothing is safe that does not show how it can bear discussion and publicity. -Lord Acton, historian (1834-1902) On 5 May 2008, at 23:48, David Pratt wrote: In a recent message, David Yarnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes I think the manual should be downloadable in Word, Gosh, I sincerely hope not, David; I for one do not wish to have to start installing another Microsoft product. How about Corel WordPerfect? No! Let's stick with Adobe Acrobat Portable Document Files. Most people have Acrobat on their PC and can print out in whatever size of paper they choose. Just my humble opinion! Mine too. 73 -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Manuals
you can annotate pages (and much more) with Preview - standard software on a Mac :-) 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- A bit of fragrance always clings to the hand that gives the rose. -Chinese proverb On 6 May 2008, at 03:23, David Yarnes wrote: You can actually accomplish much the same thing using PDF files. The problem with most PDF stuff is whether or not you can actually modify the document itself. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 836 noTX
Your 2.7 / 2.8 filter is not setup for the transmit mode. I found the filter setup in the K3 firmware updater application much easier to use than the config menus. Take a look at your filter settings with that, and the issue will likely be obvious. You must have the 2.7 or 2.8 filter (which ever you have) set as your transmit filter for each of the modes. Dave Wilburn K4DGW K2/100 - S/N 5982 K3/100 - S/N 766 "For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know." charles wrote: ERR TXF error message received when attempting low power calibration. No power out on CW or SSB. I have studied the trouble shooting pages in the Owner's manual but cannot find the answer. Any suggestions please? Charles - M0BIN Sorry I should have stated that firmware revisions are: MCU 1.88DSP 1.70 Using Elecraft Utility version 1.1.4.1 Charles - M0BIN ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 v K3
I still like my K2, but I am very happy with the K3. I had never gotten around to setting the K2 up to work digital modes, or so I could use N1MM and send CW from the computer during a contest. All those have already been done on the K3 in a short period of time. In the past, I was often running with the pre-amp on in my K2, and until I got lower impedance headsets, and kicked up the audio gain on the DSP, I was always at a want for audio. I have yet to turn the AF much above half on the K3, and the RF gain tends to stay at about 2 o'clock. I can quickly and easily change the sidetone frequency if I like without having to re-align the rig. After most of a week of playing with the K3, last night (the bands were noisy) I broke down and played with the NR. I haven't even turned it on up to this point. Before getting the K3, I could never of considered parting with the K2. It will now be a travel rig. While it is now conceivable to part with the K2, it would only be done to replace it with another K3. Something I'm sure I won't be able to accomplish in the near future. Dave Wilburn K4DGW K2/100 - S/N 5982 K3/100 - S/N 766 "For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know." Gary D Krause wrote: Hi Bill, That's a good point. I guess I didn't really think about that since I've rarely noticed it. Both of my other HF rigs are from the 80's and my K2 #6113 is the newest that I have. I'm use to fighting QRM. Hi! Hi! To me, the K2 is way better than my other rigs. Now it makes me wonder what I'm missing or perhaps I should say, not missing, when it comes to QRM. I love to work weak signals and QRP. I did own Ten Tec rig with DSP for a short time and then sold it before buying my K2. I didn't like the DSP. If I had a radio that made it easier, I might get bored with ham radio. I keep looking at the K3 but, that little voice inside keeps telling me to wait. I'm not sure why. I'm widowed, I have not children, I can afford it, and if my xyl were still here, she would tell me to get it. I think I've become my own worse enemy! Hi! Gary, N7HTS On Wed, 7 May 2008 09:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Bill W4ZV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Gary Krause N7HTS wrote: It's funny you should post at this time. I don't have a K3 but, I was looking at the test results on the Elecraft web site just yesterday. I was wondering how much difference there really is since the numbers are pretty close. Gary the numbers might be close at 5 kHz but the K2 (I have #4119) badly falls apart at less than 5 kHz spacings. I remember the first time I tried using mine versus my Orion on 160m and it was a HUGE disappointment. I was listening to an extremely weak YA8G on 1814.0 and could not believe my ears when I began to hear W1AW code practice on 1817.5 leaking through from 3.5 kHz away. Check out the closer spaced test results by independent testers like Sherwood and ARRL. Sherwood's IMD results at 2 kHz: K2 S/N 1140 - 70 dB K2 S/N 3170 - 80 dB K3 (S/N in the 100s) - 95 to 101 dB (depending on XFIL) http://www.sherweng.com/table.html The K2 is a great little rig but it's frankly out of its league when you start prowling 160 for weak signals in the presence of very strong local signals. 73, Bill W4ZV -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K2-v-K3-tp17106006p17108421.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band switch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Now, you have complained about having to button-push through every intermediate band to get to a desired ham band. Could this be alleviated somewhat using the VFO knob as a ham band only switch? Say, by holding the FINE button you could step through the ham bands using the VFO knob, perhaps more conveniently than "PUSH PUSH PUSH...", In other words, map the ham bands to VFO knob rotation while the FINE button is being held. The same button is used for FINE (tap) and COARSE (hold), therefore you can't "hold" FINE. 73, Gus Hansen KB0YH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 836 noTX
On Thursday 08 May 2008 12:38:18 Alexandr Kobranov wrote: > check TX filter for SSB/CW in config. Setting is must for TX. Thanks Alexa - see my reply to Larry Charles ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band switch
I originally suggested the [VFO dial + HOLD COARSE] combination to do the 1 MHz stepping because I thought it might be easy to do with just one hand. Not having a K3 in front of me yet, I don't know if that is so. Anyhow, in general I prefer knob turning to button pushing, given a choice (analog vs digital, so to speak...) Ok," what success do you expect in hitting 10.101..." Say you're on 6.035: You hold COARSE while turning the VFO; the display changes to 7.035, then 8.035, then 9.035, then 10.035 (about half a turn in all, at the 5 MHZ/turn rate); you then let up on the COARSE button and tune the VFO normally to 10.101 where, having entered the 30m band limits, your settings for this band are restored. The Band+ and Band- are fine for ham band switching. But for general coverage navigation a real band switch, as above, would be preferable. Now, you have complained about having to button-push through every intermediate band to get to a desired ham band. Could this be alleviated somewhat using the VFO knob as a ham band only switch? Say, by holding the FINE button you could step through the ham bands using the VFO knob, perhaps more conveniently than "PUSH PUSH PUSH...", In other words, map the ham bands to VFO knob rotation while the FINE button is being held. Anyhow, these are just suggestions, not necessarily feature requests. My only request is to get my K3 (few more weeks!) 73, Drew AF2Z On Wed, 07 May 2008 21:01:15 +, Brian/K3KO wrote: >Augie, > >And what success do you expect in hitting 10.101 or 18.068? > >Unfortunately the ham bands don't all start with .000 lower limits. > >What is really needed is one button press to get to the band you want. >Two to six button presses alone or in combo with knob twisting simply >isn't acceptable. >Standing on your head while twisting a knob behind one's back isn't either. > >73 de Brian/K3KO > >Augie Hansen wrote: > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 836 noTX
On Thursday 08 May 2008 13:11:04 Don Wilhelm wrote: > ERR TXF indicates that you have not selected the 2.7k (or 2.8k) filter > for CW and SSB transmit. The transmit filters are to be set up per > mode. See page 44 of the operator's manual. Thanks Don, the 2.7 KHz filter is selected for CW and SSB. Also FL1 FRQ is defined as -0.89. I get no change in received tone when switching from CW to CWR. I have also received the error message ERR TXG when attempting to set transmitter gain on 160 metres. I have a Bird thruline wattmeter in line with a dummy load and I have never yet seen the K3 move the needle on the Bird dial :-) I have the KAT3 ATU and when tapping ATU TUNE 5watts appears on the K£ RF watt meter but there is no movement on the Bird needle. I have the KPA3 but I presume that there is no point in installing it until thie problem is resolved. Charles ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Vox works here
I read the posts about VOX breakage in the most recent firmware so I decided to test mine. Mine seems to work okay. VOX gain = 76 Anti VOX = 30 $10 ham fest mic (Hisonic HM800) connected to rear panel, RPH mic gain = 30 Good audio reports on this mic by the way. It comes with a cheap XLR connector/cable that could probably use an upgraded connector. I find that the connector contacts are a bit loose. No PTT, here is what it looks like: http://www.hisonic.net/HM800.htm I have seen them at two swap meets (Pacificon, TRW) for $10. Mike Scott - AE6WA Tarzana, CA (DM04 / near LA) K3-100 #508/ KX1 #1311 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 DVD?
It would be great if Elecraft would sell a DVD of the K3. Since it's hard to get a good picture of exactly how it sounds and how it operates. A nice demo would be good for those of us considering it. You Tube videos just don't do it justice. I would like to hear it as well as see it since I can't get my hands on one. Of course, I'm sure they are so busy right now that there would be very little time to produce one. But, it's just a thought. Gary, N7HTS ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 836 noTX
Maybe stupid Question - have you Jumper installed if you are without PA yet? I mean jumper close to rear panel which has to be removed during install of PA 100W. Normally K3/10 are coming with this installed (as mine) I do not know if you have k3/100 Lexa, -dst- charles napsal(a): On Thursday 08 May 2008 13:49:00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll ask the obvious question and forgive me for doing so. In the CONFIG menu is setting for PA at nor? This should enable the PA. Thanks for the reply Ed. I have not yet installed the KPA3. The Installation Manual calls for a low power test prior to installing the KPA3. I have not been able complete this test so far :-( Page 51 of the Owner's Manual requires the setting of PA NOR only if the KPA3 is installed. The same paragraph also refers to a KPAIO3 transition PC board but I can find no mention of this item on the Elecraft web site. Charles - M0BIN ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: Firmware Fatigue - was K2 v K3
> Software isn't bug free until you stop using it. "The only way to know your program is correct is to never find the first error" -- Harlan Mills ca. 1969 (back when the comp sci guys were seriously working on formal methods to prove program correctness) Mark AD5SS ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 836 noTX
On Thursday 08 May 2008 13:49:00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'll ask the obvious question and forgive me for doing so. In the CONFIG > menu is setting for PA at nor? This should enable the PA. Thanks for the reply Ed. I have not yet installed the KPA3. The Installation Manual calls for a low power test prior to installing the KPA3. I have not been able complete this test so far :-( Page 51 of the Owner's Manual requires the setting of PA NOR only if the KPA3 is installed. The same paragraph also refers to a KPAIO3 transition PC board but I can find no mention of this item on the Elecraft web site. Charles - M0BIN ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 836 noTX
On Thursday 08 May 2008 20:33:24 you wrote: > You're correctI thought you may have already installed it. > > Are you holding TUN (not ant tun) long enough? Maybe you are just > activating the XMIT button with a tap. You need to HOLD the button for at > least 1/2 a second for the button to perform its secondary function (TUN in > this case). Greg, it doesn't matter how long I hold the TUNE button for - it doesn't produce any power. The rig has never produced any power at all. When the TUNE button is pressed for two or three seconds then VFO A shows zero power - zero meaning 00 watts. When the rig is in TEST mode there is no power out - as expected. When the TEST mode is normal there is one bar showing on the rig RF meter. During ATU TUNE there is five watts showing on the rig RF meter. At no time is there any indication of power transmission on the Bird meter. I've been trying to solve this problem since yesterday. I went through the configuration very carefully before I reported the problem to the reflector in order to ensure that it was not a simple mistake on my behalf. No one on the reflector has made a suggestion that I had not already condidered. The receive quality on SSB is superb, as is the CW and AM, it is the best receiver I have ever heard apart from the Drake R-4C which I have. But you don't need me to tell you that. In my opinion the only people who have the equipment and the knowledge to find the fault quickly are working in your premises. I may be wrong and it could be a simple error in configuration that I have overlooked, I would be delighted if someone could inform me of that. The current firmware has been installed three times in case there was a glitch. The rig was put together very carefully and slowly using an anti-static mat and a grounded wrist strap.No problems were encountered - it is a masterpiece of design. I have carfully assembled two K2's SN's 413 and 5901 without any problems at all. I am currently using K2 5901 on CW and frequently receive unsolicited comments on the quality of the tone. It is a fine little rig that gives me great pleasure. I consider the the five month wait for the K3 has been well worthwhile but now I am faced with disappointment and worry as to how this issue is going to be resolved. Charles Rodgers - M0BIN ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Scanning doesn't stop at strong signals
The manual doesn't actually say scanning should stop, but it should "unmute" for "interesting" signals. I presume that means stop! Mine doesn't unmute or stop, even for S9 signals. Also, "channel hop" scanning (mainly for 30m) doesn't work. I suspect these are waiting for future firmware - ? Windy KM5Q K3 #746 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: Firmware Fatigue - was K2 v K3
I may be the eternal optomist, but with regard to the K3 I an not particularly worried about these software glitches. I got scared away from the original Orion because of problems like these, but Ten-Tec seemed very obviously to be floundering as to what to do next. Not so with Elecraft. I can only imagine the difficulty in getting things right, but Elecraft is putting a lot of effort into doing just that. Ten-Tec, on the other hand, has left a bunch of folks hanging while their attention was diverted elsewhere. If you watch that reflector you will know what I mean. I know, for example, that a lot of folks are using a much earlier version of the Orion I software because it sort of works for them, while the later version still has big issues apparently. Wayne and Lyle, and others, are pretty much focused specifically on getting the K3 just right. Knowing that, I don't seem much reason to kick and scream or throw darts. Their "pride of authorship" will get us what we want and need a lot quicker than spears thrown in their direction. And I know Wayne doesn't punch out at 5 p.m. He takes his work home with him! I happened to work him on 40 CW a while back--late at night by the way--and he mentioned he had been working on the software. I have a sneaking hunch that some of that so called vacation time he just had was spent doing the same thing. I know these glitches are frustrating. But I am reasonably sure this stuff isn't all that easy. I'm equally sure that these folks are smart enough to figure it out successfully. Remember, we are kind of plowing new ground with some of this radio software stuff. Personally, I think it's fascinating what apparently can, and will be, achieved in due time. As for myself, I have been sort of dragging my feet on some of the software upgrades. I'm still using 1.75, which generally works pretty well. I'm letting everyone else shake things out first. I know I'll be upgrading soon enough. I'm anxious to see things work better, but I'm not losing any sleep over it. I have been assured that the things I've noticed as being less than satisfactory will be dealt with. I have no reason to doubt that, so I'm content to give them time to do it. And although it has been said before, I'll repeat it--there isn't any other radio I know of where the users are communicating so openly with the designers to obtain desired changes. Maybe there will come a day when I feel some disappointment with the K3, but I'm sure nowhere close to that point currently. I could probably be critical of Elecraft about several things, but being responsive to their customers sure isn't one of them. Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: "VR2BrettGraham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Re: Firmware Fatigue - was K2 v K3 Software isn't bug free until you stop using it. 73, VR2/KBrett7Graham/p. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 836 noTX
On Thursday 08 May 2008 12:24:22 Ian J Maude wrote: > Make sure you are in band Thanks Ian - I am definitely in band. Charles ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 836 noTX
Charles, This means that somehow you do not have a correct filter setup for TX. Go to the FLTX config menu item and make sure you have it set to the FLx slot where either your 2.7 or 2.8 filter is installed. Do this for ALL MODES...including the ALT modesUSB/LSB, CW and CW REV, Data and Data Rev. AM and FM must use their respective filters for TX. That SHOULD clear your problem. - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 On Thu May 8 3:07 , charles sent: >ERR TXF error message received when attempting low power calibration. > >No power out on CW or SSB. > >I have studied the trouble shooting pages in the Owner's manual but cannot >find the answer. > >Any suggestions please? > >Charles - M0BIN > >Sorry I should have stated that firmware revisions are: > >MCU 1.88DSP 1.70 > >Using Elecraft Utility version 1.1.4.1 > >Charles - M0BIN >___ >Elecraft mailing list >Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Bluetooth to RS232
I liked the K2 Bluetooth serial adapter project. I Googled Bluetooth serial adapters (there are quite a few) and ran into an A7 Engineering product. http://www.a7eng.com/products/embeddedblue/serial/eb501-SER.htm It is lower cost than the Socket Bluetooth adapter. It looks ready to embed (doesn't have to be disassembled). It needs an antenna. I wonder how I would mount an antenna on a K3; if it were internal it seems to me that the case would severely impede signal. Mike Scott - AE6WA Tarzana, CA (DM04 / near LA) K3-100 #508/ KX1 #1311 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: K3 836 - no TX
On Thursday 08 May 2008 21:05:59 you wrote: > OK Charles. Somewhere along the TX signal path is where the problem is. > The RF voltage tests I sent in that document should help narrow down where > it is. How can this be done without the detailed circuit diagram ? If a fault were found then what would you expect me to do about it ? Charles - M0BIN ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 836 noTX
> ERR TXF indicates you have not chosen the 2.7 or 2.8Khz filter as your > transmit filter. Until one or the other filter is assigned to the mode the > radio will not transmit. I don't have my radio yet but I know this is the > problem from reading the reflector the past 6 months! HI HI Thanks Larry, the TX filter for CW and SSB is set as 2.7 KHz. I also have the error code ERR TXG when attempting to set transmitter gain. Charles ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3: MDS Measurement
It's been awfully quiet here this morning so thought I'd toss this out to the reflector. I had the XG-1 out today for another reason and decided to run the MDS test that is described in the instuction sheet on my K3 (#202). Using the built-in AFV on the Alternate display made it easy to measure. PreAmp - ON - -137 db [S+N=667uV; N=20uV] PreAmp - OFF - -134 db [S+N=173uV; N= 7uV] 73, Ken K3IU Portsmouth, RI ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 836 noTX
charles wrote: ERR TXF error message received when attempting low power calibration. No power out on CW or SSB. I have studied the trouble shooting pages in the Owner's manual but cannot find the answer. Any suggestions please? ERR TXF is a recently added error code (see the errata pages). It means "The crystal filter selected for transmit in the present mode is either too narrow or too wide." Be sure to specify the correct filters in your configuration on a per mode basis. See page 44 in the Owner's Manual. Gus Hansen KB0YH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 836 noTX
ERR TXF error message received when attempting low power calibration. No power out on CW or SSB. I have studied the trouble shooting pages in the Owner's manual but cannot find the answer. Any suggestions please? Charles - M0BIN Sorry I should have stated that firmware revisions are: MCU 1.88DSP 1.70 Using Elecraft Utility version 1.1.4.1 Charles - M0BIN ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 836 noTX
ERR TXF error message received when attempting low power calibration. No power out on CW or SSB. I have studied the trouble shooting pages in the Owner's manual but cannot find the answer. Any suggestions please? Charles - M0BIN ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: Firmware Fatigue - was K2 v K3
Software isn't bug free until you stop using it. 73, VR2/KBrett7Graham/p. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 v K3
Don,
Perhaps you have suggested one possible solution to making the output from
DSP sound less harsh ('yucky' is a better term IMHO), add some harmonics of
the desired output signal. I can't at the moment see how this could be done
with relatively simple circuitry which would have to distinguish between the
desired output signal and any unwanted artifacts at the DSP's output, and
not introduce any additional undesired artifacts. Just a thought not aimed
at any particular radio which uses DSP.
73,
Geoff
GM4ESD
Don Wilhelm wrote:
Mike,
I believe it is all in the perception. The K2 is all analog (unless the
KDSP2 is active), but the K3 processing is digital. Each has its own
advantages and artifacts to contend with. Analog can soften the
background noise while the digital DSP can reproduce it 'in all its
glory'.
I equate this perception to the folks in the audiophile world who claim
that vacuum tube amplifiers are better because they are 'warmer'. Actual
measurement will show that solid state amplifiers can better duplicate
the input waveform while vacuum tube gear adds 2nd and 3rd harmonic
distortion to the output.
To each his own. Remember that perception is 99% of reality.
73,
Don W3FPR
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[Elecraft] K2 vs K3
I have adjusted the RX EQ to alter the sound of the audio and in particular when using the 1.0Khz filter. I have now achieved a somewhat rich tone (to my poor old ears) that is pleasant to listen too. I had no idea just how good I could make it when using the 1.0Khz filter on ssb when I started but it sounds pretty good to me. Anyway, I was surprised just how nice it sounded compared to my K3. > The audio seems softer and warmer somehow. Same bandwidth (400Hz), > same phones. The K3 background noise just sounded harder, more harsh. > I've had this feeling from day one. cheers, Gary VK4WT...#679 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
