Re: [Elecraft] SSB<>CW VFO offset

2008-06-27 Thread Ian White GM3SEK

Tony Fegan VE3QF wrote:

Bill W5WVO wrote:
This is something I thought already behaved the way I want it to, but 
it doesn't seem to. I've read through the manual, so if I'm missing 
something, somebody please tell me.


If I'm copying a 6m CW signal in USB mode and switch the K3 to 
CW(REV) mode (which corresponds to USB), I want to see the VFO change 
frequency in the right direction (up, in this instance, or down when 
switching from CW(REV) to USB)) by the amount of the PITCH frequency. 
It doesn't. This means when switching from CW to SSB or back, I lose 
sync with the CW signal I was copying. We want to be able to stay in 
pitch-sync with a CW signal while switching back and forth between SSB 



If there is a setting that already sets the K3 up with this behavior, 
I'd like to know what it is. Otherwise, could we please have an 
implementation of this at the earliest opportunity? The CW-in-SSB mode 
behavior works great, and I love it! But we also need this VFO-offset 
behavior when switching between these modes as well. It should be an 
option you can set in Config -- "Auto offset VFO CW/SSB" or something 
like that. In the Kenwood TS-2000, it's called "Frequency correction 
for SSB-to-CW change (ON/OFF)". We VHF ops would be very grateful.





Hi Bill,

Firmware release 1.87 introduced this new feature:

* CW KEYING IN SSB MODES: While in SSB modes, you can now send CW without
changing modes or using an offset. The other station will hear the 
signal at your CW pitch.

This is especially useful on VHF bands when SSB signals can’t be copied.
To enable this feature, go into CONFIG:CW WGHT and tap ‘1’ until 
you see SSB +CW.


Just hit the key. No need to switch modes. It is very convenient. If 
your contact comes back on CW, make sure auto notch is off and you may 
want to change the filter width if copying gets tough.


Hope this helps.


Auto-CW does help, but the present version does not provide all the 
features that Bill and other VHF ops need.


At present we're working around it, and hoping that an upgrade is "on 
the list".



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Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]

2008-06-27 Thread Tony Fegan VE3QF

Wayne/Don,

	Maybe another solution could be to optionally (menu/config?) power up 
in TX-inhibit (Test mode). Tx-inhibit could then be reset by hitting the 
key/paddle, mic PTT or the TEST button.


73
Tony Fegan VE3QF


wayne burdick wrote:

Don,

By "a few seconds" I meant that it would have to detect the condition in 
that window, on power-up. But if it did detect key-down in this window, 
it would remain in the TX-inhibit condition for as long as the key-down 
persisted.


Wayne

On Jun 27, 2008, at 9:31 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:


Wayne,

Given the situation, reasons, and consequences, I believe something 
like what you suggested would be the best solution.  If you can extend 
the time beyond 'the first couple of seconds' (enough time to change 
the menu or power down), that would be helpful IMHO.


73,
Don W3FPR

wayne burdick wrote:

Dave,
I wanted to run a possible solution past you.
I could prevent the rig from being keyed (by any method) during the 
first couple of seconds that it's powered up. Instead, it could 
detect this case, and display a repeating message (something like: 
"KEYLINE IS ACTIVE") until you either remove the source of the keying 
or turn power off.

Thoughts on this?
73,
Wayne
N6KR




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[Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]

2008-06-27 Thread wayne burdick

Don,

By "a few seconds" I meant that it would have to detect the condition 
in that window, on power-up. But if it did detect key-down in this 
window, it would remain in the TX-inhibit condition for as long as the 
key-down persisted.


Wayne

On Jun 27, 2008, at 9:31 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:


Wayne,

Given the situation, reasons, and consequences, I believe something 
like what you suggested would be the best solution.  If you can extend 
the time beyond 'the first couple of seconds' (enough time to change 
the menu or power down), that would be helpful IMHO.


73,
Don W3FPR

wayne burdick wrote:

Dave,
I wanted to run a possible solution past you.
I could prevent the rig from being keyed (by any method) during the 
first couple of seconds that it's powered up. Instead, it could 
detect this case, and display a repeating message (something like: 
"KEYLINE IS ACTIVE") until you either remove the source of the keying 
or turn power off.

Thoughts on this?
73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]

2008-06-27 Thread Brett Howard
Sounds like a smart addition to me.  Protects people from transmitting
into something horrible on accident.  Always puts a smile on your face
when software protects you from doing something stupid on accident.


On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 19:51 -0700, wayne burdick wrote:
> Dave,
> 
> I wanted to run a possible solution past you.
> 
> I could prevent the rig from being keyed (by any method) during the 
> first couple of seconds that it's powered up. Instead, it could detect 
> this case, and display a repeating message (something like: "KEYLINE IS 
> ACTIVE") until you either remove the source of the keying or turn power 
> off.
> 
> Thoughts on this?
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> Dave Hachadorian, K6LL wrote:
> 
> > I've got my K3 set up for cw on Field Day with a laptop usb
> > port driving a usb to serial converter. Rig control and cw
> > keying are done over the serial cable, using the K3's
> > built-in ability to send cw from pin 4(?) of the rs-232
> > cable.
> >
> > Everything works fine, but I got quite a scare when I turned
> > on the K3 and it came up keyed-down 120 watts into no
> > antenna.  It seems that if the laptop is not running the
> > logging program, rs-232 pin 4 can very well be in a key-down
> > state.
> 
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[Elecraft] transverter cable

2008-06-27 Thread Johnny Siu
Thanks a lot to both Don and Ron.  I got the answer from the archive.

73

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Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]

2008-06-27 Thread Don Wilhelm

Wayne,

Given the situation, reasons, and consequences, I believe something like 
what you suggested would be the best solution.  If you can extend the 
time beyond 'the first couple of seconds' (enough time to change the 
menu or power down), that would be helpful IMHO.


73,
Don W3FPR

wayne burdick wrote:

Dave,

I wanted to run a possible solution past you.

I could prevent the rig from being keyed (by any method) during the 
first couple of seconds that it's powered up. Instead, it could detect 
this case, and display a repeating message (something like: "KEYLINE IS 
ACTIVE") until you either remove the source of the keying or turn power 
off.


Thoughts on this?

73,
Wayne
N6KR


Dave Hachadorian, K6LL wrote:


I've got my K3 set up for cw on Field Day with a laptop usb
port driving a usb to serial converter. Rig control and cw
keying are done over the serial cable, using the K3's
built-in ability to send cw from pin 4(?) of the rs-232
cable.

Everything works fine, but I got quite a scare when I turned
on the K3 and it came up keyed-down 120 watts into no
antenna.  It seems that if the laptop is not running the
logging program, rs-232 pin 4 can very well be in a key-down
state.



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Re: [Elecraft] SSB<>CW VFO offset

2008-06-27 Thread Tony Fegan VE3QF

Hi Bill,

Firmware release 1.87 introduced this new feature:

* CW KEYING IN SSB MODES: While in SSB modes, you can now send CW without
changing modes or using an offset. The other station will hear the 
signal at your CW pitch.

This is especially useful on VHF bands when SSB signals can’t be copied.
To enable this feature, go into CONFIG:CW WGHT and tap ‘1’ until you see 
SSB +CW.


Just hit the key. No need to switch modes. It is very convenient. If 
your contact comes back on CW, make sure auto notch is off and you may 
want to change the filter width if copying gets tough.


Hope this helps.

73
Tony Fegan VE3QF
K3 #137

Bill W5WVO wrote:

This is something I thought already behaved the way I want it to, but it 
doesn't seem to. I've read through the manual, so if I'm missing something, 
somebody please tell me.

If I'm copying a 6m CW signal in USB mode and switch the K3 to CW(REV) mode 
(which corresponds to USB), I want to see the VFO change frequency in the right 
direction (up, in this instance, or down when switching from CW(REV) to USB)) 
by the amount of the PITCH frequency. It doesn't. This means when switching 
from CW to SSB or back, I lose sync with the CW signal I was copying. We want 
to be able to stay in pitch-sync with a CW signal while switching back and 
forth between SSB and CW modes.

If there is a setting that already sets the K3 up with this behavior, I'd like to know what it is. 
Otherwise, could we please have an implementation of this at the earliest opportunity? The 
CW-in-SSB mode behavior works great, and I love it! But we also need this VFO-offset behavior when 
switching between these modes as well. It should be an option you can set in Config -- "Auto 
offset VFO CW/SSB" or something like that. In the Kenwood TS-2000, it's called "Frequency 
correction for SSB-to-CW change (ON/OFF)". We VHF ops would be very grateful.

Thanks,
Bill W5WVO
  



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RE: [Elecraft] how to build interface cable between K3 and XV144

2008-06-27 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Johnny, we are not talking about the same thing. 

I said I used the cable described in the Transverter owner's manual to
connect between the RS232 port on the K3 and my computer. That's true. 

However, the K3 does not use the same connector for transverter control. It
uses a DB-15 connector so you do need a different connector and pin
connections at the rig end. 

Obviously, I haven't had a chance to try interfacing my transverters to the
K3 yet. 

The Transverter Owner's manual has not been updated since the K3 was
announced. 

As Don W3FPR noted, there apparently have been a number of e-mails on the
subject on the reflector. Hopefully a search of the archives will give you
what you need.

My apologies for the confusion. 

Ron AC7AC



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From: Johnny Siu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 4:04 PM
To: 'Elecraft'; Ron D'Eau Claire
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] how to build interface cable between K3 and XV144



Hello Ron,

Thanks for your reply.

Yes, I did read p.9 of the XV144 operation manual.  However, it only shows
the interface cable from XV144 to KI02 of K2 and NOT K3.

>From reading of the K3 manual, the RS232 socket has a different usage 
>in K3 and the wiring is not similar to KI02. Is my understanding 
>correct?  If yes, where can I find similar diagram as that in p.9 of 
>the XV144 manual for building the interface cable between XV144 and K3.

cheers,

Johnny Siu VR2XMC

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[Elecraft] [K3] Turning filters off/on

2008-06-27 Thread W7TEA

I have the 500 and 200 hz filters installed.  Most of the time I prefer using
the 500 hz filter even when narrowing the DSP filtering to 200 hz or below. 
Is there an easy and fast way to engage the 200 hz roofing filter during
those rare occasions when it is needed without going into the config menu to
turn it on?  

tnx, Gary W7TEA
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[Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]

2008-06-27 Thread wayne burdick

Dave,

I wanted to run a possible solution past you.

I could prevent the rig from being keyed (by any method) during the 
first couple of seconds that it's powered up. Instead, it could detect 
this case, and display a repeating message (something like: "KEYLINE IS 
ACTIVE") until you either remove the source of the keying or turn power 
off.


Thoughts on this?

73,
Wayne
N6KR


Dave Hachadorian, K6LL wrote:


I've got my K3 set up for cw on Field Day with a laptop usb
port driving a usb to serial converter. Rig control and cw
keying are done over the serial cable, using the K3's
built-in ability to send cw from pin 4(?) of the rs-232
cable.

Everything works fine, but I got quite a scare when I turned
on the K3 and it came up keyed-down 120 watts into no
antenna.  It seems that if the laptop is not running the
logging program, rs-232 pin 4 can very well be in a key-down
state.



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic Connection

2008-06-27 Thread Brett Howard
Does anyone know of an adapter that some one sells to adapt an 8-pin mic
plug to the 1/8 / 3.5mm jack on the back?  Would be slick to get a
completely clean and empty front panel.  I'd even be happy if the PTT
wasn't connected.  The VOX works so well its not needed.  I'd not want
to use the button on the mic anyway.  I'll just wire up a foot pedal.
Perhaps if I end up having to make a connector I'll just buy some extra
connectors and see if anyone else is interested in buying the extras off
me

Any thoughts?

On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 15:34 -0700, nn5g wrote:
> I am in the process of trying to mate a Heil PR-40 to my new K3.  I do have a
> mic cable wired for Kenwood use. A couple of questions…..
> 
> 1.Is there any advantage to using the mic connection on the back, versus
> the front.
> 
> 2.If the back connection is made I assume I use the “mic mono” and “ PTT
> In” connections. How are these connectors configured from the kenwood cable?
> 
> Tnx & 73 de Paul NN5G
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?

2008-06-27 Thread Tom Childers, N5GE
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:34:23 -0600, "Bill W5WVO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I got used to this feature on the TS-2000. You can set "dash/dot ratio" to a 
>number less than or greater than 3.0 (where 3.0 is the default standard -- 
>i.e., the dash is three times the length of the dot). After experimenting, I 
>set mine to 3.7, which gave the transmitted CW a nice little bug-like "swing". 
>At first, I thought this was what the K3's "CW weight" parameter was for, but 
>I immediately discovered that wasn't the case. Would any of you other CW guys 
>out there use such an adjustment in the K3 if it were implemented? I find 
>that's how I naturally want to send, probably a holdover from my bug days 
>years ago.
>
>Bill W5WVO
[snip]

I would never use it.

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Re: [Elecraft] And yet even More K2 Distorted TX audio on 10m and 12m only

2008-06-27 Thread AJSOENKE
It sounds like you may have a spurious oscillation problem inside the box.  A 
spur can drain a high level of power, be off frequency, destroy finals, etc.  
The power on one band and none on the other sounds like you may have a 
component  misplaced or wrong value - including the tuning of the coil. Another 
possibility  is a bad solder joint so a critical capacitor value is not being 
seen.  I  suggest doing a real thorough visual on both sides of the board and 
maybe a  touch up on all the solder joints on those bands.
 
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I lied about lying about the power, after  realigning my filters my 12 and
10m power is normal. The signal is still  horrible, however.

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[Elecraft] SSB<>CW VFO offset

2008-06-27 Thread Bill W5WVO
This is something I thought already behaved the way I want it to, but it 
doesn't seem to. I've read through the manual, so if I'm missing something, 
somebody please tell me.

If I'm copying a 6m CW signal in USB mode and switch the K3 to CW(REV) mode 
(which corresponds to USB), I want to see the VFO change frequency in the right 
direction (up, in this instance, or down when switching from CW(REV) to USB)) 
by the amount of the PITCH frequency. It doesn't. This means when switching 
from CW to SSB or back, I lose sync with the CW signal I was copying. We want 
to be able to stay in pitch-sync with a CW signal while switching back and 
forth between SSB and CW modes.

If there is a setting that already sets the K3 up with this behavior, I'd like 
to know what it is. Otherwise, could we please have an implementation of this 
at the earliest opportunity? The CW-in-SSB mode behavior works great, and I 
love it! But we also need this VFO-offset behavior when switching between these 
modes as well. It should be an option you can set in Config -- "Auto offset VFO 
CW/SSB" or something like that. In the Kenwood TS-2000, it's called "Frequency 
correction for SSB-to-CW change (ON/OFF)". We VHF ops would be very grateful.

Thanks,
Bill W5WVO
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[Elecraft] K3 - Text Decode

2008-06-27 Thread Fred Jensen
Still learning my K3.  CW Text Decode works flawlessly on W1AW bulletins 
and code practice [OK, visual decode on code practice is sort of 
oxymoronic].  Quality of decode seems to be very sensitive to the THR 
setting, but when you get it right, it is nearly perfect.  Not so 
perfect on "real hams," but not bad.  Unfortunately, except for record 
traffic which I rarely do anymore, it is distracting to copying in my 
head, so I won't be using that feature much.


Couldn't find any RTTY stations on to test AFSK.

PSK31 was very good, once the old ham read the manual.

Haven't tried the CW to Data mode yet, I'm sure it works, just one thing 
at a time.


Firmware 2.10 has made a huge improvement in NR.  Not sure if it was 
supposed to change NB, but that's better too.


This is a cool radio!

73,

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Sensitivity drop between Low and Hi power

2008-06-27 Thread Vic K2VCO

max iw0gxy wrote:
Hi all, 
I connected the XG2 signal generator to my K3 and I've injected 50microV

into the antenna. I have the standard S9 but when I rise the power to 13 and
up signal drop down to S8. If I turn the knob to 12W or less signal turn
back to S9. 
I've noted this behavior on signals on air but to be sure I've used my
signal generator. 


I do not see any change in received signal levels here when switching 
between low and high power.

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RE: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?

2008-06-27 Thread Bill Johnson
Ron,

I have paralleled both an N3ZN and Begali signature to key my K2's.  I bit
expensive for keying SSB transmit, but I think very impressive if not
overkill.  Can't wait to do the same for the K3 on the order list.  Maybe
I'll use just one.  And move the only the Begali to the K3?!  A bit
obsessive, except that I actually operate C.W. here and there.  :-)


72,

Bill 

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I just use my Bug to key the rig! 


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RE: [Elecraft] how to build interface cable between K3 and XV144

2008-06-27 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Fb Jonny. I believe the same cable works. I use my transverter cable as an
RS-232 "extension cord" between my computer RS232 port and the K3. 

Yes, the K2 "AUX" connector is not a true RS232 port. But the three wires
used in the cable are compatible with either the AUX port or an RS232 port.
They have the three basic lines needed  for most communications. 

The real danger is in hooking a full RS232 cable to the K2 AUX port. That
often results in damaging voltages being applied to the K2 AUX port because,
other than the three lines + ground shown in the transverter cable, some of
the other connections are not the same as used in normal RS232 busses. 

Ron 


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To: 'Elecraft'; Ron D'Eau Claire
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Hello Ron,

Thanks for your reply.

Yes, I did read p.9 of the XV144 operation manual.  However, it only shows
the interface cable from XV144 to KI02 of K2 and NOT K3.

>From reading of the K3 manual, the RS232 socket has a different usage 
>in K3 and the wiring is not similar to KI02. Is my understanding 
>correct?  If yes, where can I find similar diagram as that in p.9 of 
>the XV144 manual for building the interface cable between XV144 and K3.

cheers,

Johnny Siu VR2XMC
--- 2008年6月27日 星期五,Ron D'Eau Claire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ��道�s

> 寄件人: Ron D'Eau Claire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 主�}: RE: [Elecraft] how to build interface cable between K3 and XV144
> 收件人: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "'Elecraft'" 
> 日期: 2008 6 27 星期五 下午 11:03
> Hello Johnny:
> 
> You should have received the "Elecraft Transverter
> Models XV50, XV144,
> XV222, XV432 Owner's Manual" with your transverter
> kit. It's separate  from
> the assembly manual. See page 9 of that manual for the details.
> 
> If you don't have it, it's available for download
> here:
> 
> http://www.elecraft.com/manual/XV%20Transverter%20Owner's%20Manual-D.p
> df
> 
> Ron AC7AC
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Re: [Elecraft] how to build interface cable between K3 and XV144

2008-06-27 Thread Don Wilhelm
Johnny

Check the reflector archives for the past 3 days.  The cable wiring
required was discussed then in several posts.

73,
Don W3FPR

Johnny Siu wrote:
> Hello Ron,
> 
> Thanks for your reply.
> 
> Yes, I did read p.9 of the XV144 operation manual.  However, it only shows 
> the interface cable from XV144 to KI02 of K2 and NOT K3.
> 
>>From reading of the K3 manual, the RS232 socket has a different usage in K3 
>>and the wiring is not similar to KI02. Is my understanding correct?  If yes, 
>>where can I find similar diagram as that in p.9 of the XV144 manual for 
>>building the interface cable between XV144 and K3.
> 
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[Elecraft] K3 - Sensitivity drop between Low and Hi power

2008-06-27 Thread max iw0gxy

Hi all, 
I connected the XG2 signal generator to my K3 and I've injected 50microV
into the antenna. I have the standard S9 but when I rise the power to 13 and
up signal drop down to S8. If I turn the knob to 12W or less signal turn
back to S9. 
I've noted this behavior on signals on air but to be sure I've used my
signal generator. 

Did someone noted the same behavior? 

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RE: [Elecraft] Power Amplifier Jumper Block

2008-06-27 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
You can install the KPAIO3 interface from your KPA3 Option kit. It will
replace the jumper block in any case. You can install it only, then finish
up with  your tests and calibrations before going back to finish the KPA3
installation. 

Ron AC7AC

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I almost finished my K3 tonight, but now there´s a problem. The assembly
manual on page 54 says, that the Power Amplifier Jumper Block is already
installed.Unfortunately there is no jumper installed in my K3 and I can´t
find it anywhere. I´d like to install the KPA 100 tomorrow, but I can´t go
on without doing the tests and calibrations(page 57) Did I miss anything or
is this jumper not required any more?


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[Elecraft] K3 - Sensibility drop when Hi Pwr

2008-06-27 Thread max iw0gxy

Hi all, 
I connected the XG2 signal generator to my K3 and I injected 50microV into
the antenna. I have the standard S9 but when I rise the power to 13 and up
signal drop down to S8. If I turn the knob to 12W or less signal turn back
to S9.
I've noted this behavior on signals on air but to be sure I've used my
signal generator.

Did someone noted the same behavior?

Max IW0GXY
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RE: [Elecraft] Power Amplifier Jumper Block

2008-06-27 Thread Bud Semon N7CW
Chris,

I just built s/n 1041 and it had the jumper block installed from the
factory.  It might still be early enough to call the factory and have them
send it tonight.

GL & 73, Bud N7CW

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I almost finished my K3 tonight, but now there´s a problem. The assembly
manual on page 54 says, that the Power Amplifier Jumper Block is already
installed.Unfortunately there is no jumper installed in my K3 and I can´t
find it anywhere.
I´d like to install the KPA 100 tomorrow, but I can´t go on without doing
the tests and calibrations(page 57) Did I miss anything or is this jumper
not required any more?


vy73 Chris-OE5CSP,K3 #1073
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[Elecraft] Power Amplifier Jumper Block

2008-06-27 Thread OE5CSP-Chris

I almost finished my K3 tonight, but now there´s a problem. The assembly
manual on page 54 says, that the Power Amplifier Jumper Block is already
installed.Unfortunately there is no jumper installed in my K3 and I can´t
find it anywhere.
I´d like to install the KPA 100 tomorrow, but I can´t go on without doing
the tests and calibrations(page 57) Did I miss anything or is this jumper
not required any more?


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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware 2.10,1.81 problems Update

2008-06-27 Thread G4ILO


Joe Subich, W4TV-3 wrote:
> 
> 
> FSK D and AFSK A receive in LSB while PSK D and DATA A receive in 
> USB for compatibility with the (backward) convention of most non-
> RTTY software writers (PSK32, MFSK, etc.). 
> 

... which makes it difficult for any program to know what to do since at the
moment it is (almost) impossible for a program to tell which of these data
mode options have been selected on the radio.

-
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RE: [Elecraft] how to build interface cable between K3 and XV144

2008-06-27 Thread Johnny Siu

Hello Ron,

Thanks for your reply.

Yes, I did read p.9 of the XV144 operation manual.  However, it only shows the 
interface cable from XV144 to KI02 of K2 and NOT K3.

>From reading of the K3 manual, the RS232 socket has a different usage in K3 
>and the wiring is not similar to KI02. Is my understanding correct?  If yes, 
>where can I find similar diagram as that in p.9 of the XV144 manual for 
>building the interface cable between XV144 and K3.

cheers,

Johnny Siu VR2XMC
--- 2008年6月27日 星期五,Ron D'Eau Claire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 寫道﹕

> 寄件人: Ron D'Eau Claire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 主題: RE: [Elecraft] how to build interface cable between K3 and XV144
> 收件人: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "'Elecraft'" 
> 日期: 2008 6 27 星期五 下午 11:03
> Hello Johnny:
> 
> You should have received the "Elecraft Transverter
> Models XV50, XV144,
> XV222, XV432 Owner's Manual" with your transverter
> kit. It's separate  from
> the assembly manual. See page 9 of that manual for the
> details. 
> 
> If you don't have it, it's available for download
> here:
> 
> http://www.elecraft.com/manual/XV%20Transverter%20Owner's%20Manual-D.pdf
> 
> Ron AC7AC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 PSK D

2008-06-27 Thread G4ILO


wb7ond wrote:
> 
> Thanks Julian
> 
> I can also see by http://aintel.bi.ehu.es/psk31theory.html that this
> PSK-31 waveform is a bit more complicated at keying than simple fsk on/off
> digital 1's and 0's.  
> 
> You mentioned an interesting aspect of the serial converter that is
> confusing for me:
> 
> "whether the USB serial ports most people would want to use are capable of
> working at the nonstandard baud rates such modes would require. Under
> Windows you would probably have to fight with the system to get access to
> the serial ports and set these nonstandard UART parameters, making the
> task much more difficult than it was in 1986 when I wrote my own MS-DOS
> RTTY terminal program. "
> 
> I purchased an old Belkin usb-serial converter that was recommended as
> being capable of running at 45.5 baud from the RTTY info web page.  <
> http://www.aa5au.com/gettingstarted/rtty_start8.htm >  Then I discovered
> that I did not have to use the "Tx Data" (which I believe is controlled
> thru the USART), I could have keyed the DTR or RTS control line at 45.5
> baud thru the EXT FSK dll.  Would not the baud rate of that control pin be
> controlled by the MMTTY/Ext FSK software, independant of USART standard
> buad rates?  When I used a "run of the mill" usb-serial converter in the
> DTR or DTS, it seemed as though it keyed just fine, i.e. I heard the
> diddle and fsk in the K3 "monitor".  I am using Xp on a Vostro laptop.  I
> use a serial adapter to tune the K3, and a second adapter to FSK thru an
> opto isolator.  I suspect that all the "Mixw type keyers" have somehow
> solved that problem.. 
> 
> I continued this post because I figured it may be of interest to other FSK
> Rtty folks.
> 
> 
Yep, that is interesting. I had my doubts about the USB to serial converters
because I haven't even managed to get one to work yet with normal serial
communications. (Fortunately my shack PC has a real serial port and I'm not
planning on replacing it with a laptop anytime soon.)

I did wonder whether you could press one of the other unused lines into
service to send the data, but assumed that it might be rather tricky getting
the right timing. However, obviously someone clever has already done that.

Still, I'm hoping that the KY command protocol will soon be fully
functional, which will achieve the same result without any extra wires or
DLLs. I'm particularly interested in being able to use it for PSK31, since
my KK7UQ IMD meter tells me that my IMD is 2dB better using the internally
generated modulation than it is using the soundcard.

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RE: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?

2008-06-27 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Well, gee, I can get those effects on my K3, even long telegraphic dashes
for zeros! 

I just use my Bug to key the rig! 

Any time we turn over to machines or "technology" the chore of doing
something, we are subservient to a fierce dictator of our own making. The
machine will always do what it does and never quite what we'd like it to do.
Our best hope is that it we like the advantages enough to offset the
inherent problems. 

Even my Bug. But I can always disassemble and clean it to give myself the
illusion that I am in charge, after all.

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

Bill W5WVO wrote:
> I got used to this feature on the TS-2000. You can set "dash/dot 
> ratio" to a number less than or greater than 3.0 (where 3.0 is the 
> default standard -- i.e., the dash is three times the length of the 
> dot). After experimenting, I set mine to 3.7, which gave the 
> transmitted CW a nice little bug-like "swing". At first, I thought 
> this was what the K3's "CW weight" parameter was for, but I 
> immediately discovered that wasn't the case. Would any of you other CW 
> guys out there use such an adjustment in the K3 if it were 
> implemented? I find that's how I naturally want to send, probably a 
> holdover from my bug days years ago.

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[Elecraft] Optivisor

2008-06-27 Thread TMorton
Many tnx for all the reply s about the Optivisor and other units 
available. I had a magnifying glass/light which attached to desk with a 
C clamp which I used to build the K2...unfortunately, it was 110v only 
and I have enough extraneous 110v units plugged into my transformer 
under the desk. I will be getting the Optivisior on my next trip to the 
statesalong with the loop...

Mucho gracias for todo.
73
Tom
CX7TT
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?

2008-06-27 Thread Vic K2VCO

Bill W5WVO wrote:

I got used to this feature on the TS-2000. You can set "dash/dot
ratio" to a number less than or greater than 3.0 (where 3.0 is the
default standard -- i.e., the dash is three times the length of the
dot). After experimenting, I set mine to 3.7, which gave the
transmitted CW a nice little bug-like "swing". At first, I thought
this was what the K3's "CW weight" parameter was for, but I
immediately discovered that wasn't the case. Would any of you other
CW guys out there use such an adjustment in the K3 if it were
implemented? I find that's how I naturally want to send, probably a
holdover from my bug days years ago.


An electronic keyer with an incorrect dot-dash ratio does not sound like 
a bug. It sounds like a misadjusted keyer! I wouldn't use this.


The Weight adjustment in the K2, by the way, is dot-space ratio.
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RE: [K3] [Elecraft] Transmit AM through FM Filter?

2008-06-27 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
We on this reflector have often "beat to death" the American FCC Amateur
service rules about bandwidth since they give no numbers about what is
acceptable as long as the emission stays within the Amateur band. Unlike
commercial frequencies, where specific technical standards avoid co-channel
interference with other services, the rules for Amateur emissions are vague
in keeping with the basic philosophy about not having rules where no rules
are required. 

>From a technical standpoint, the signal-to-noise ratio drops as the
bandwidth increases. The best signal to noise ratio for a given effective
radiated power is found at the narrowest bandwidths. That's why CW works
with signals that can't be heard at all on SSB, and why SSB gets clear copy
with signals unreadable on AM. Even if the receiver filter is tailored to
match the signal, the amount of noise power increases in direct proportion
to the bandwidth. 

The effect upon the listener is that the noise gets louder and the signal
weaker as the bandwidth is increased. 

So, without trying to argue the law, that is a solid technical reason to
maintain narrower bandwidths whenever possible. 

In free society, such as the USA, begins with the concept that citizens can
do *anything* that pleases them but, to avoid injury to others, we must
adopt laws prohibiting specific behavior. The objective is to have as few
laws as possible, and to write the laws to prohibit exactly the behavior
that is damaging. Of course we Yanks didn't invent the concept. One
predecessor was the Magna Carta.

Sure, some Americans don't understand that or they choose to "freeload",
taking advantage of anything they can get away with without respect to the
law. That injures the rest of us, then we're further put out by having to
pay to keep them locked up when they are caught. 

But the vast majority of Americans I've known over my lifetime are what we
call "honest, law-abiding citizens", in spite of what the movies suggest.
Indeed, like all good story tellers, novels and movies dwell on the
unexpected and unusual, not the commonplace. 

Ron AC7AC


-Original Message-
Of course, the FM filter can be used for AM transmit. All you need to do is
tell the radio it is an AM filter. It will not know otherwise.

There is really no reason not to transmit wide band AM, just like there is
no reason not to transmit wideband SSB. The modes are perfectly legal in
most of the world. For voice, it is a waste of spectrum but for digital
modes, especially on the higher bands having more audio bandwidth may be
useful.

I think it might be that, in the USA it is not legal to transmit 15kHz wide
AM or SSB. This is a difference between the USA rules and the rules
elsewhere. In the USA, people are expected to do foolish things unless they
are told not to, hence the limitations on transmitting out of band. Here in
Europe, we have just as many fools, but it is considered their
responsibility. We suffer greatly because of this but it also gives us a lot
of freedom.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware 2.10,1.81 problems Update

2008-06-27 Thread Jack Smith
Those of us who have been around RTTY before the days of electronic 
printers remember the second meaning of LSMFT - low space means fine 
teletype. (refers to the RF frequency, not the demodulated audio of course.)



Jack K8ZOA
www.cliftonlaboratories.com


Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
RTTY was based upon the frequency 
of Mark (2125) and Space (2295) and the surplus military 
equipment available, unless you could afford some of the high 
dollar HAL equipment (which was also used by the military). 



No, RTTY is always "Shift low" - that is Mark is the HIGHER 
RF frequency and space is the LOWER RF frequency.  When the 
audio tones 2215 and 2295 are applied to a LSB transmitter 
in AFSK this results in the correct shift. 

  
I have no idea what the protocol is for DATA (perhaps Elecraft 
can tell us.)  As an experiment, try switching rigs in MixW and 
observe what is happening to the signal frequency.  



FSK D and AFSK A receive in LSB while PSK D and DATA A receive in 
USB for compatibility with the (backward) convention of most non-
RTTY software writers (PSK32, MFSK, etc.). 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 





  

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As Julian suggested the problem is in MixW.  It has been 40 
years since I had the RTTY training course in the NAVY, but, 
it has to do with the convoluted history of RTTY.  Although 
SSB is on the LSB on the HF bands below 30 Meters and USB on 
those bands above 30 meters (Many reasons given for this most 
of which are not correct) RTTY was based upon the frequency 
of Mark (2125) and Space (2295) and the surplus military 
equipment available, unless you could afford some of the high 
dollar HAL equipment (which was also used by the military).  
Military protocol was to have the Mark the lowest tone in 
frequency. This was ok with most equipment made BPC (Before 
Personnel Computers).  The PC brought out the conversion of 
telephone modems, use of the modem IC’s and finally the PC 
sound card for generating these tones. If you built a TNC out 
of a modem chip and did not include a reverse switch you were 
stuck to either the low or high bands.  This was fixed on the 
PC with a button to reverse the signal that you could click 
on and copying.  Some of the Rigs treat RTTY as SSB, others 
put RTTY so that the Mark is always the lowest frequency 
transmitted regardless of the band selected, and RTTYR 
reverses this.  I have no idea what the protocol is for DATA 
(perhaps Elecraft can tell us.)  As an experiment, try 
switching rigs in MixW and observe what is happening to the 
signal frequency.  You wil not be able to chang frequency 
with MixW but you can see what happens to the signal as you 
turn the dial on the RIG.


Rich,
KE0X


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[Elecraft] K3 Update on Firmware

2008-06-27 Thread Gary Scott
 About 3 weeks ago I posted a problem with my K3 failing during a firmware 
update. I finally got around to finding the problem (yes I'm sloo) It 
turned out to be a faulty USB to Serial Cable.Today I picked up a Radio 
Shack 6 ft USB-A to Serial Cable (part number 26-949). This cable mates to 
the K3 connector (It has the screws ,not nuts) as I was ask by Dick,K6KR to 
watch for this. So now my K3 is working again!!  I would like to think Dick 
Dievendorff K6KR for his prompt help and the many many email he sent me to 
find the problem. Now back to playing radio!!


73 Gary W4GNS 


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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware 2.10,1.81 problems Update

2008-06-27 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

> RTTY was based upon the frequency 
> of Mark (2125) and Space (2295) and the surplus military 
> equipment available, unless you could afford some of the high 
> dollar HAL equipment (which was also used by the military). 

No, RTTY is always "Shift low" - that is Mark is the HIGHER 
RF frequency and space is the LOWER RF frequency.  When the 
audio tones 2215 and 2295 are applied to a LSB transmitter 
in AFSK this results in the correct shift. 

> I have no idea what the protocol is for DATA (perhaps Elecraft 
> can tell us.)  As an experiment, try switching rigs in MixW and 
> observe what is happening to the signal frequency.  

FSK D and AFSK A receive in LSB while PSK D and DATA A receive in 
USB for compatibility with the (backward) convention of most non-
RTTY software writers (PSK32, MFSK, etc.). 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 




> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich (KE0X)
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 4:49 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware 2.10,1.81 problems Update
> 
> 
> 
> As Julian suggested the problem is in MixW.  It has been 40 
> years since I had the RTTY training course in the NAVY, but, 
> it has to do with the convoluted history of RTTY.  Although 
> SSB is on the LSB on the HF bands below 30 Meters and USB on 
> those bands above 30 meters (Many reasons given for this most 
> of which are not correct) RTTY was based upon the frequency 
> of Mark (2125) and Space (2295) and the surplus military 
> equipment available, unless you could afford some of the high 
> dollar HAL equipment (which was also used by the military).  
> Military protocol was to have the Mark the lowest tone in 
> frequency. This was ok with most equipment made BPC (Before 
> Personnel Computers).  The PC brought out the conversion of 
> telephone modems, use of the modem IC’s and finally the PC 
> sound card for generating these tones. If you built a TNC out 
> of a modem chip and did not include a reverse switch you were 
> stuck to either the low or high bands.  This was fixed on the 
> PC with a button to reverse the signal that you could click 
> on and copying.  Some of the Rigs treat RTTY as SSB, others 
> put RTTY so that the Mark is always the lowest frequency 
> transmitted regardless of the band selected, and RTTYR 
> reverses this.  I have no idea what the protocol is for DATA 
> (perhaps Elecraft can tell us.)  As an experiment, try 
> switching rigs in MixW and observe what is happening to the 
> signal frequency.  You wil not be able to chang frequency 
> with MixW but you can see what happens to the signal as you 
> turn the dial on the RIG.
> 
> Rich,
> KE0X
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] HRD flxx selection sp3

2008-06-27 Thread Simon Brown (HB9DRV)
HRD hasn't changed here - it's the firmware in the K3 I think. There will 
soon be an upgrade to HRD which supports new CAT codes currently being 
developed by the dwarves in the Aptos software mines. Selecting a 
non-existent filter should not change anything, I've passed this on to 
Elecraft's software engineers.


I'm just back from the Friedrichshafen show and am still drooling - lots of 
nice radios and big hairy amps, sadly prices exceeding the funds in the 'DRV 
piggy bank.


Simon Brown, HB9DRV

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Anyone seen this with HRD 4 sp3
Select filter and pick anyone that you have installed. The selection 
immediately goes to fl 5 with min bandwidth.



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware 2.10,1.81 problems Update

2008-06-27 Thread Rich (KE0X)

As Julian suggested the problem is in MixW.  It has been 40 years since I had
the RTTY training course in the NAVY, but, it has to do with the convoluted
history of RTTY.  Although SSB is on the LSB on the HF bands below 30 Meters
and USB on those bands above 30 meters (Many reasons given for this most of
which are not correct) RTTY was based upon the frequency of Mark (2125) and
Space (2295) and the surplus military equipment available, unless you could
afford some of the high dollar HAL equipment (which was also used by the
military).  Military protocol was to have the Mark the lowest tone in
frequency. This was ok with most equipment made BPC (Before Personnel
Computers).  The PC brought out the conversion of telephone modems, use of
the modem IC’s and finally the PC sound card for generating these tones. If
you built a TNC out of a modem chip and did not include a reverse switch you
were stuck to either the low or high bands.  This was fixed on the PC with a
button to reverse the signal that you could click on and copying.  Some of
the Rigs treat RTTY as SSB, others put RTTY so that the Mark is always the
lowest frequency transmitted regardless of the band selected, and RTTYR
reverses this.  I have no idea what the protocol is for DATA (perhaps
Elecraft can tell us.)  As an experiment, try switching rigs in MixW and
observe what is happening to the signal frequency.  You wil not be able to
chang frequency with MixW but you can see what happens to the signal as you
turn the dial on the RIG.

Rich,
KE0X


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RE: [Elecraft] K3 for Field Day at 120W

2008-06-27 Thread Mack McCormick
Fern,
 
I own several linear and it was really a simple question. I was unaware the 
radio wasn't rated to run at 120W. Now I know.73, MackWB4MAK



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> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 for Field Day at 120W> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 
> 13:47:08 -0600> > Mark:> > The K3 is rated at 100 watts so why in the world 
> would you want to mess things up with its spectral purity by running it at a 
> higher power level. Nobody will ever notice a bit of difference in your 
> signal strength between 100 watts or 120 watts. This is like running an 
> engine that is rated at say 4,000 rpm but you want to run at 5,000 rpm. The 
> excellent specs on the K3 are garanteed at the 100 watt level so please don't 
> overdrive it unecessarily to the 120 watt level and give an excellent radio a 
> bad name. If you feel that you want more power then invest in a linear 
> amplifier.> Just my 2 cents.> > Fern with K3 serial #421> > > > - 
> Original Message - > From: "Mack McCormick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: 
> > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 11:26 AM> Subject: 
> [Elecraft] K3 for Field Day at 120W> > > Is there any problem with running my 
> K3 on CW at 120W for the 24 hours of field day? It will be in a semi air 
> conditioned trailer. I'm trying to give all the CW ops in my ham club the 
> opportunity to work the K3 on CW during a contest.73, 
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Re: [Elecraft] Optivisor?

2008-06-27 Thread Bob Cunnings
At work I use a 3 generally but also have one of the little 2.5x flip
down lenses attached so that I can zoom in closer when I need to. Very
handy.

Bob NW8L

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Jim Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have the same opinion.  I bought the 4s because I wanted all the
> magnification I could get.  I found that the focal length is too close to be
> comfortable to me.  The view is fine but the work is just too close.  I
> intend to get 3s and I suspect they will be a better fit for me.  Someone
> here explained the relationship of the number to the focal length.  Prior, I
> didn't realize the number was anything but just a number.  Thanks, Jim
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:48 PM
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Optivisor?
>
>
>> I'm sure distortion was a bad choice of words; it was not a cheap
> knock-off.  Field of view was far too short with the 4x for me.  The 3x has
> proven to be perfectly usable for me, with a much better field of view.  The
> fact that I'm accustomed to progressives with a high power *may* be a factor
> here.  As I said, I realize a lot of guys like the 4's.
>>
>> As an aside, I live less than 8 miles from the Optivisor company.
>>
>> --
>> 73,
>> de Mike, KC0KBC
>>
>>
>>  -- Original message --
>> From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > If you saw distortion, you had some defective lenses or a cheap
> knock-off
>> > "Optivisor". True Optivisors have very high quality lenses.
>> >
>> > I susptect that's why they are significantly more expensive than the
> other
>> > binocular-type magnifiers.
>> >
>> > I use 4's with no distortion at all.
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Re: [K3] [Elecraft] Transmit AM through FM Filter?

2008-06-27 Thread AD6XY - Mike

Of course, the FM filter can be used for AM transmit. All you need to do is
tell the radio it is an AM filter. It will not know otherwise.

There is really no reason not to transmit wide band AM, just like there is
no reason not to transmit wideband SSB. The modes are perfectly legal in
most of the world. For voice, it is a waste of spectrum but for digital
modes, especially on the higher bands having more audio bandwidth may be
useful.

I think it might be that, in the USA it is not legal to transmit 15kHz wide
AM or SSB. This is a difference between the USA rules and the rules
elsewhere. In the USA, people are expected to do foolish things unless they
are told not to, hence the limitations on transmitting out of band. Here in
Europe, we have just as many fools, but it is considered their
responsibility. We suffer greatly because of this but it also gives us a lot
of freedom.




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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Mic gain with Heil HC elements

2008-06-27 Thread Bill W5WVO
This question has been answered. Dumb newbie mistake, didn't set config to
rP.H by tapping the "1" button.

Bill W5WVO

Bill W5WVO wrote:
> I'm just now (finally!) in the process of learning, configuring, and
> adjusting my new K3 (S/N 888). I have a Heil Pro-Set with the
> standard dynamic HC-5 mic element, which is known to be kind of low
> in output compared to most other dynamic mics. It does work
> beautifully and the audio reports have been excellent -- but to get
> any ALC bars at all, I have to crank the mic input up to 60 (full
> scale). This is not a problem, except that there is no wiggle-room.
> It also makes me worry about there not being enough VOX gain, which I
> haven't gotten to yet in my setup tasks. Is this level of mic gain
> typical of what is required with the Heil HC-5 element?
>
> Bill W5WVO
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Re: [Elecraft] Optivisor?

2008-06-27 Thread Jim Miller
I have the same opinion.  I bought the 4s because I wanted all the
magnification I could get.  I found that the focal length is too close to be
comfortable to me.  The view is fine but the work is just too close.  I
intend to get 3s and I suspect they will be a better fit for me.  Someone
here explained the relationship of the number to the focal length.  Prior, I
didn't realize the number was anything but just a number.  Thanks, Jim

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:48 PM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Optivisor?


> I'm sure distortion was a bad choice of words; it was not a cheap
knock-off.  Field of view was far too short with the 4x for me.  The 3x has
proven to be perfectly usable for me, with a much better field of view.  The
fact that I'm accustomed to progressives with a high power *may* be a factor
here.  As I said, I realize a lot of guys like the 4's.
>
> As an aside, I live less than 8 miles from the Optivisor company.
>
> --
> 73,
> de Mike, KC0KBC
>
>
>  -- Original message --
> From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > If you saw distortion, you had some defective lenses or a cheap
knock-off
> > "Optivisor". True Optivisors have very high quality lenses.
> >
> > I susptect that's why they are significantly more expensive than the
other
> > binocular-type magnifiers.
> >
> > I use 4's with no distortion at all.
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: It's IT Cookies

2008-06-27 Thread w6jd
They are very good! Worth a trip! Besides we need the tourist
dollars.

73,
Doug, W6JD 

-- Original message -- 
From: "VE3GAM Allen McRorie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> just saw a program on Food Network the other day, apparently there is 
> a chocolate covered ice cream cookie called "It's It" in San Francisco, 
> they looked pretty good 
> 
> Al 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mike Morrow" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 2:28 PM 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Use of "ITS" vs "IT'S" (OT) 
> 
> 
> > Ron wrote: 
> > 
> >> Every time I write a phrase using _its_ or _it's_ I have to 
> >> stop and think about it. 
> > 
> > Other very common errors are: 
> > (1) Misuse of "your" and "you're", 
> > (2) Misuse of "their" and "there" and "they're", 
> > (3) Misuse "to" and "too". 
> > 
> > We all make such errors on occasion, but when any individual 
> > native English speaker commits these errors persistently, it 
> > reflects badly on that individual even in informal communication. 
> > For the sake of personal pride, I try to avoid these errors, 
> > even though I know that the message would still be understood. 
> > 
> > Keith wrote: 
> > 
> >> I'm just glad that CW is for the most part a punctuation-free 
> >> mode! 
> > 
> > Morse has a rich assortment of punctuation, including one for 
> > the apostrophe (..). I learned many 30 years ago while 
> > preparing for my commercial radiotelegraph license exam. When 
> > Notice to Mariner bulletins (NAVAREAs and HYDROLANTs) were still 
> > being sent in Morse on the maritime HF bands, one came across 
> > frequent use of the open parenthesis (-.--.), close parenthesis 
> > (-.--.-), and colon (---...). Today I still write "=" whenever 
> > I hear the -...- (BT) combination. Even Army MARS Morse bulletins 
> > 25 years ago sometimes used them, most likely due to inexperience 
> > on the part of someone using a Morse keyboard to prepare the 
> > broadcast. The general membership did not seem to like such 
> > surprises in the text that they were trying to copy! 
> > 
> > Mike / KK5F 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 for Field Day at 120W

2008-06-27 Thread Fern Rivard
Mark:

The K3 is rated at 100 watts so why in the world would you want to mess 
things up with its spectral purity by running it at a higher power level. 
Nobody will ever notice a bit of difference in your signal strength between 100 
watts or 120 watts. This is like running an engine that is rated at say 4,000 
rpm but you want to run at 5,000 rpm. The excellent specs on the K3 are 
garanteed at the 100 watt level so please don't overdrive it unecessarily to 
the 120 watt level and give an excellent radio a bad name. If you feel that you 
want more power then invest in a linear amplifier.
Just my 2 cents.

Fern with K3 serial #421



- Original Message - 
From: "Mack McCormick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 11:26 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 for Field Day at 120W


Is there any problem with running my K3 on CW at 120W for the 24 hours of field 
day? It will be in a semi air conditioned trailer. I'm trying to give all the 
CW ops in my ham club the opportunity to work the K3 on CW during a contest.73, 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Mic gain with Heil HC elements

2008-06-27 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft

Bill,

Do you have the mic menu parameter set to FP-H for higher mic gain? We 
have two ranges, FP-L for the MH2 and many mics and FP-H for mics like 
the Heil HC4/5 that are -8 dB lower in signal than standard.


73, Eric  WA6HHQ


Bill W5WVO wrote:

I'm just now (finally!) in the process of learning, configuring, and adjusting 
my new K3 (S/N 888). I have a Heil Pro-Set with the standard dynamic HC-5 mic 
element, which is known to be kind of low in output compared to most other 
dynamic mics. It does work beautifully and the audio reports have been 
excellent -- but to get any ALC bars at all, I have to crank the mic input up 
to 60 (full scale). This is not a problem, except that there is no wiggle-room. 
It also makes me worry about there not being enough VOX gain, which I haven't 
gotten to yet in my setup tasks. Is this level of mic gain typical of what is 
required with the Heil HC-5 element?

Bill W5WVO

  

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 for Field Day at 120W

2008-06-27 Thread S Sacco
I agree completely with Gary's comment.

I'd back it down to a nice, clean 80-90 watts, and spend my time
looking after the new ops.

73,
Steve NN4X


On 6/27/08, Gary D Krause <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why would you want to run it at 120 watts?  I'm just curious.  If it is a
> concern, why not run it at 100, 80, 50 or even 10 watts?
>
> Gary, N7HTS
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[Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?

2008-06-27 Thread Bill W5WVO
I got used to this feature on the TS-2000. You can set "dash/dot ratio" to a 
number less than or greater than 3.0 (where 3.0 is the default standard -- 
i.e., the dash is three times the length of the dot). After experimenting, I 
set mine to 3.7, which gave the transmitted CW a nice little bug-like "swing". 
At first, I thought this was what the K3's "CW weight" parameter was for, but I 
immediately discovered that wasn't the case. Would any of you other CW guys out 
there use such an adjustment in the K3 if it were implemented? I find that's 
how I naturally want to send, probably a holdover from my bug days years ago.

Bill W5WVO
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware 2.10,1.81 problems

2008-06-27 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

I suspect this is an issue of MixW not correctly interpreting the 
information received from the K3.  When in Data modes, the frequency 
reported by the K3 will vary depending on which data sub mode is in 
use. 

Data  Default
sub-mode  sideband   Reported frequency

 FSK D  LSB  RTTY MARK 
AFSK A  LSB  RTTY MARK 
DATA A  USB  USB/LSB "CARRIER" frequency 
 PSK D  USB  RF frequency (carrier +/- 1 KHz)

MixW assumes data modes from the K2 are LSB (there is no separate 
K3 driver).  The firmware "error" prior to the new beta caused 
MixW to get the sideband right for Data A by chance.  Mix W's K2 
setting assumes that the CAT data represents VFO frequency (or 
carrier) instead of 'MARK' as the K3 reports.  If you use FSK D 
and AFSK A with a "standard"  2125 Hz Mark, set the Digi "Cat 
correction" to -2125.  If you are using FSK D, set "FSK center 
fq" to 2210 [(2125 + 2295)/2] ... if you are using AFSK A, check 
"AFSK in place of FSK" 

With Data A, I’m afraid that the author of MixW will need to  
create a new K3 driver that assumes USB operation in data modes. 
Ideally, before then Wayne will have time to implement separate 
"mode" get/set commands (on the list) for the digital submodes 
(FSK D: MD6;/MD9;, AFSK A: MD8;/MDC;, and DATA A: MDA;/MDD;) so 
MixW (and other digital software) can tell which mode is being 
used from the IF; response.  Then when the authors of MixW (and 
other software) do K3 specific support they will be able to 
properly need to do a K3 setting to reflect carrier vs. RF and 
sideband for each of the digital sub-modes. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Forrest
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 6:31 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware 2.10,1.81 problems
> 
> 
> Dear All.
> 
> operating a K3 with latest beta firmware, using PSK on data 
> modes with MixW. The frequency display on MixW now shows 
> incorrect frequencies for the signals received in data mode. 
> On SSB frequencies displayed appear correct. On data they 
> appear about 3KHz low and on data reverse about 3KHz high. 
> This tested on 20m band.  Everything OK before update.
> 
> Anyone else seeing this behaviour? or is it me that has the 
> problem?
> 
> thanks
> 
>   73 Andrew M1KAZ
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Just hooked up my mic, no SSB out

2008-06-27 Thread Bill W5WVO
The radio comes with the front-panel mic input activated. If you  have
connected the mic to the rear-panel jack and haven't reconfigured the mic
input selection in the CONFIG menu, that's why you have no SSB.

Bill W5WVO

Phil & Debbie Salas wrote:
> Any chance you are in TEST mode?
>
> Phil - AD5X
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[Elecraft] [K3] Mic gain with Heil HC elements

2008-06-27 Thread Bill W5WVO
I'm just now (finally!) in the process of learning, configuring, and adjusting 
my new K3 (S/N 888). I have a Heil Pro-Set with the standard dynamic HC-5 mic 
element, which is known to be kind of low in output compared to most other 
dynamic mics. It does work beautifully and the audio reports have been 
excellent -- but to get any ALC bars at all, I have to crank the mic input up 
to 60 (full scale). This is not a problem, except that there is no wiggle-room. 
It also makes me worry about there not being enough VOX gain, which I haven't 
gotten to yet in my setup tasks. Is this level of mic gain typical of what is 
required with the Heil HC-5 element?

Bill W5WVO
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[Elecraft] OT: It's IT Cookies

2008-06-27 Thread VE3GAM Allen McRorie
just saw a program on Food Network the other day, apparently there is 
a chocolate covered ice cream cookie called "It's It" in San Francisco,

they looked pretty good

Al  
- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Morrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Use of "ITS" vs "IT'S" (OT)



Ron wrote:


Every time I write a phrase using _its_ or _it's_ I have to
stop and think about it.


Other very common errors are:
(1)  Misuse of "your" and "you're",
(2)  Misuse of "their" and "there" and "they're",
(3)  Misuse "to" and "too".

We all make such errors on occasion, but when any individual
native English speaker commits these errors persistently, it
reflects badly on that individual even in informal communication.
For the sake of personal pride, I try to avoid these errors,
even though I know that the message would still be understood.

Keith wrote:


I'm just glad that CW is for the most part a punctuation-free
mode!


Morse has a rich assortment of punctuation, including one for
the apostrophe (..).  I learned many 30 years ago while
preparing for my commercial radiotelegraph license exam.  When
Notice to Mariner bulletins (NAVAREAs and HYDROLANTs) were still
being sent in Morse on the maritime HF bands, one came across
frequent use of the open parenthesis (-.--.), close parenthesis
(-.--.-), and colon (---...).  Today I still write "=" whenever
I hear the -...- (BT) combination.  Even Army MARS Morse bulletins
25 years ago sometimes used them, most likely due to inexperience
on the part of someone using a Morse keyboard to prepare the
broadcast.  The general membership did not seem to like such
surprises in the text that they were trying to copy!

Mike / KK5F
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Re: [Elecraft] Use of "ITS" vs "IT'S" (OT)

2008-06-27 Thread Mike Morrow
Ron wrote:

> Every time I write a phrase using _its_ or _it's_ I have to
> stop and think about it.

Other very common errors are:
(1)  Misuse of "your" and "you're",
(2)  Misuse of "their" and "there" and "they're",
(3)  Misuse "to" and "too".

We all make such errors on occasion, but when any individual
native English speaker commits these errors persistently, it
reflects badly on that individual even in informal communication.
For the sake of personal pride, I try to avoid these errors,
even though I know that the message would still be understood.

Keith wrote:

> I'm just glad that CW is for the most part a punctuation-free
> mode!

Morse has a rich assortment of punctuation, including one for
the apostrophe (..).  I learned many 30 years ago while
preparing for my commercial radiotelegraph license exam.  When
Notice to Mariner bulletins (NAVAREAs and HYDROLANTs) were still
being sent in Morse on the maritime HF bands, one came across
frequent use of the open parenthesis (-.--.), close parenthesis
(-.--.-), and colon (---...).  Today I still write "=" whenever
I hear the -...- (BT) combination.  Even Army MARS Morse bulletins
25 years ago sometimes used them, most likely due to inexperience
on the part of someone using a Morse keyboard to prepare the
broadcast.  The general membership did not seem to like such
surprises in the text that they were trying to copy!

Mike / KK5F
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[Elecraft] [K3] Transmit AM through FM Filter?

2008-06-27 Thread Don Rasmussen
As far as I know, the K3 filters are not intelligent,
the K3 has no way of knowing what the filter is other
than by your setup. If the FM filter was defined as a
5 khz filter, the K3 would probably send the signal
through it and the signal would probably be spectrally
purer than the vast majority of the gear that's being
used on AM today. But the only way to find out would
be to put it on a spectrum analyzer. Elecraft has
spoken of removing the firmware block at some point in
the future. There is also a block that keeps you from
transmitting out of band, which is annoying when
you're
connected to a dummy load. 

[Elecraft] [K3] Transmit AM through FM Filter?
Lyle Johnson kk7p at wavecable.com 
Fri Jun 27 13:13:42 EDT 2008 

Previous message: [Elecraft] [K3] Transmit AM through
FM Filter? 


> Checked the archives, but unable to find an answer.
If I was to purchase 
> ONLY an FM filter, can I also TX AM through it
without issue?

The current firmware blocks the use of any foilter for
AM Tx other than 
6 kHz.

73,

Lyle KK7P
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 for Field Day at 120W

2008-06-27 Thread Gary D Krause
Why would you want to run it at 120 watts?  I'm just curious.  If it is a 
concern, why not run it at 100, 80, 50 or even 10 watts?


Gary, N7HTS


On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:26:06 -0400
 Mack McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Is there any problem with running my K3 on CW at 120W for the 24 hours of 
field day? It will be in a semi air conditioned trailer. I'm trying to give 
all the CW ops in my ham club the opportunity to work the K3 on CW during a 
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[Elecraft] K-2 For Sale

2008-06-27 Thread Terry ONeill
I have a nice K-2 for sale.

Excellent condition. Little Use. Works perfectly. Recently
professionally aligned.
Options include:
SSB
Internal Battery
160 meters
Auto. Antenna tuner
Heil Mic
$700 + shipping
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Key-down on power-up

2008-06-27 Thread Don Wilhelm

Dave and folks,

That behavior is a natural consequence of an unpowered RS-232 signal 
line.  The voltage on the RTS (or DTR) input to the K3 will be zero or 
close to it when the computer is not powered. If you check the R-232 
signal levels you will find that the region around zero volts (+3v to 
-3v) is "undefined" - the system is designed that way to include noise 
immunity - the RS-232 receiver output might be either ON or OFF when its 
input is at zero volts - it is not predictable and the real state 
depends on the behavior of the particular LT1039ACN driver/receiver chip 
in the K3.  Couple that with the fact that the RS-232 'no signal' or 
'Space' state must be between +3 and +15 volts to assure an OFF 
condition at the output of the RS-232 receiver - there is just no way to 
avoid the 'problem'.


As a result, if your K3 is set for PTT-KEY from the RTS or DTR lines, it 
would be prudent to power the computer on before the K3 so these input 
signals are at a defined state (hopefully 'space').  Even unplugging the 
cable will not help because that will also result in zero volts at the 
input.


73,
Don W3FPR

Dave Hachadorian wrote:
I've got my K3 set up for cw on Field Day with a laptop usb port driving 
a usb to serial converter. Rig control and cw keying are done over the 
serial cable, using the K3's built-in ability to send cw from pin 4(?) 
of the rs-232 cable.


Everything works fine, but I got quite a scare when I turned on the K3 
and it came up keyed-down 120 watts into no antenna.  It seems that if 
the laptop is not running the logging program, rs-232 pin 4 can very 
well be in a key-down state. I don't see any way to prevent this event 
from happening again, except to unplug the rs-232 cable, turn the rig 
on, make sure vox is off, turn off the K3, plug in the rs-232 cable, and 
then turn the K3 back on again.


Once it happens to you, you get gunshy about turning the rig on with 
rs-232 connected. Maybe there could be some sort of inhibit to prevent 
this from happening? Or maybe someone can suggest an easier way to 
prevent this from happening. On my old TS-850, there was an actual 
switch to disable vox, and I always disabled vox before turning on the rig.


My permanent setup back home uses LPT keying, so I can leave the 
computer key jack unplugged.


Thanks.

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Big Bear Lake, CA
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RE: [Elecraft] Optivisor?

2008-06-27 Thread Mike
LOL!

--
Mike, KC0KBC

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> 
> A word of warning to all the  young gentlemen who want to look "cool" out
> there...
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[Elecraft] K3 for Field Day at 120W

2008-06-27 Thread Mack McCormick
Is there any problem with running my K3 on CW at 120W for the 24 hours of field 
day? It will be in a semi air conditioned trailer. I'm trying to give all the 
CW ops in my ham club the opportunity to work the K3 on CW during a contest.73, 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 PSK D

2008-06-27 Thread wb7ond

Thanks Julian

I can also see by http://aintel.bi.ehu.es/psk31theory.html that this PSK-31
waveform is a bit more complicated at keying than simple fsk on/off digital
1's and 0's.  

You mentioned an interesting aspect of the serial converter that is
confusing for me:

"whether the USB serial ports most people would want to use are capable of
working at the nonstandard baud rates such modes would require. Under
Windows you would probably have to fight with the system to get access to
the serial ports and set these nonstandard UART parameters, making the task
much more difficult than it was in 1986 when I wrote my own MS-DOS RTTY
terminal program. "

I purchased an old Belkin usb-serial converter that was recommended as being
capable of running at 45.5 baud from the RTTY info web page.  <
http://www.aa5au.com/gettingstarted/rtty_start8.htm >  Then I discovered
that I did not have to use the "Tx Data" (which I believe is controlled thru
the USART), I could have keyed the DTR or RTS control line at 45.5 baud thru
the EXT FSK dll.  Would not the baud rate of that control pin be controlled
by the MMTTY/Ext FSK software, independant of USART standard buad rates? 
When I used a "run of the mill" usb-serial converter in the DTR or DTS, it
seemed as though it keyed just fine, i.e. I heard the diddle and fsk in the
K3 "monitor".  I am using Xp on a Vostro laptop.  I use a serial adapter to
tune the K3, and a second adapter to FSK thru an opto isolator.  I suspect
that all the "Mixw type keyers" have somehow solved that problem.. 

I continued this post because I figured it may be of interest to other FSK
Rtty folks.

Thanks again.

Dick
WB7OND

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Transmit AM through FM Filter?

2008-06-27 Thread Lyle Johnson
Checked the archives, but unable to find an answer. If I was to purchase 
ONLY an FM filter, can I also TX AM through it without issue?


The current firmware blocks the use of any foilter for AM Tx other than 
6 kHz.


73,

Lyle KK7P

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Key-down on power-up

2008-06-27 Thread Don Nesbitt
There IS an indication that one is in the "Test" mode.

The letters "TX" between the "A" and "B" VFO indicators on the right side of
the display BLINK on and off when in the "Test" mode - when NOT in the
"Test" mode, the "TX" is steady.

Admittedly, it is easy to miss!  -- '73 es gud dxing -- Don N4HH K3 #83

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To: Bob Cunnings; Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Key-down on power-up

 There is no indication that the radio is in 
Test mode, other than the failure to transmit.
  73, andy, ae6y


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Key-down on power-up

2008-06-27 Thread Lyle Johnson
I've got my K3 set up for cw on Field Day with a laptop usb port driving 
a usb to serial converter. Rig control and cw keying are done over the 
serial cable...
Once it happens to you, you get gunshy about turning the rig on with 
rs-232 connected. Maybe there could be some sort of inhibit to prevent 
this from happening?


If you have configured the K3 to look at RTS or DTR to activate the 
Transmitter, then it will do so.  It can't know that your computer is 
attached but turned off.


Two suggestions that might help:

1) change the CONFIG menu item if you are going to leave an unpowered 
RS232 device attached to the radio, or


2) run the USB-to-RS232 device through a USB HUB that has an external 
power supply which is powered whenever the K3 is powered.


73,

Lyle KK7P

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Key-down on power-up

2008-06-27 Thread G4ILO


Ed Muns, W0YK wrote:
> 
>> I would vote not to make Test mode persistent.  While I find 
>> it very useful, it can be a trap for an inexperienced K3 
>> user, to whom it might look like the radio simply isn't 
>> working.  There is no indication that the radio is in Test 
>> mode, other than the failure to transmit.
> 
> Actually, there is a (subtle) indication ... the TX icon blinks when in TX
> TEST mode.
> 

I don't think this would help. You'd still have to remember to put it into
TEST mode before switching it off.

There is perhaps a case for having an option for the radio to come up in
TEST mode and stay in that mode until it received a valid command over the
RS-232. This could be useful for those who rarely if ever use the radio
*without* a computer connected. Even if you don't have a serial port that
asserts key down when no logger is active, many PCs do toggle the serial
port control lines during the power-on tests at boot-up, causing the rig to
transmit a series of dashes. I've had this happen a few times, when I
switched on the radio before the computer.

Partly because I'm also developing software and prone to accidentally
transmitting test messages, I have got into the habit of always switching to
TEST whenever I turn on the radio. Except when I forget to, of course.

-
Julian, G4ILO  K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392
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KComm for K2/K3: www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Transmit AM through FM Filter?

2008-06-27 Thread Don Wilhelm

Dan,

The 'without issue' part is important here.  While it could possibly 
work, to work with spurs and other 'bad things happening' is not likely. 
 The 6kHz filter is for AM transmit.  The K3 may even prevent AM 
transmission if that filter is not installed, but I don't know that for 
certain.


73,
Don W3FPR

Dan Atchison wrote:
Checked the archives, but unable to find an answer. If I was to purchase 
ONLY an FM filter, can I also TX AM through it without issue? I know 
RXing is not a problem.


Thanks
73,
Dan - N3ND (anxiously awaiting a K3)

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Key-down on power-up

2008-06-27 Thread Ed Muns
> I would vote not to make Test mode persistent.  While I find 
> it very useful, it can be a trap for an inexperienced K3 
> user, to whom it might look like the radio simply isn't 
> working.  There is no indication that the radio is in Test 
> mode, other than the failure to transmit.

Actually, there is a (subtle) indication ... the TX icon blinks when in TX
TEST mode.

73,
Ed - W0YK


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[Elecraft] [K3] Transmit AM through FM Filter?

2008-06-27 Thread Dan Atchison
Checked the archives, but unable to find an answer. If I was to 
purchase ONLY an FM filter, can I also TX AM through it without issue? 
I know RXing is not a problem.


Thanks
73,
Dan - N3ND (anxiously awaiting a K3)
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RE: [Elecraft] On the subject of kit-building aids ..

2008-06-27 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Optivisor makes a knob-adjust headband too. I have one. At one point I
picked up a second Optivisor so I could leave one at work and it has the
slip-type head band adjuster. Perhaps it was cheaper. 

I agree, the knob adjust is worth getting even if it's a few bucks more!

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

Someone made mention of obtaining an Opti-visor (SP?) at a 
craft store.  Another quality brand is made by Magni-Focuser.  
This one has a handy feature in the form of a knob at the back 
of the headband that allows for easy size adjustment.  The Opti-visor's band
tends to slip and work loose.

Craft stores sell a nice light made by OTT-LITE.  They come in a wide
variety of sizes and forms, and several models have built-in magnifiers.
They tend to be "pricey" at craft stores, but can be found from other
sources.  OTT-LITE would like you to believe their bulbs are "special", and
they may well be, but Home Depot sells replacement lamps for -much- lower
prices.

There are four OTT-LITES here in my shack and Rose has two
in her sewing room that she uses in the making of her cases and covers.  One
is a floor stand version that's right above sewing head one of her machines.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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[Elecraft] K3: Just hooked up my mic, no SSB out

2008-06-27 Thread Phil & Debbie Salas

Any chance you are in TEST mode?

Phil - AD5X
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Distorted TX audio on 10m and 12m only

2008-06-27 Thread Don Ehrlich
I have a lot of distorted audio problems due to RF getting into my MH2 
microphone or the mic cable.  It is worse on 12M, 10M, and 6M.  The higher 
the frequency the worse RF pickup problems generally are.  If the rig sounds 
normal when connected to a dummy load (or with power turned down to zero) 
then it is certainly an RF pickup problem.


Don K7FJ



My K2 sounds fine on all bands on all modes, both TX and RX except for 10
and 12m. On those two bands, RX is fine, but TX sounds horrible on all
modes, LSB, USB, and CW. It puts out full power though. Any ideas?

I'd really like to use this at field day. Of course 12 and 10 probably 
won't

even be open...

Thanks,
Jeff



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Key-down on power-up

2008-06-27 Thread Andrew Faber
I would vote not to make Test mode persistent.  While I find it very useful, 
it can be a trap for an inexperienced K3 user, to whom it might look like 
the radio simply isn't working.  There is no indication that the radio is in 
Test mode, other than the failure to transmit.

 73, andy, ae6y
- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Cunnings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Elecraft Reflector" 
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Key-down on power-up



I've always wondered why TEST mode wasn't persistent - if I put the K3
into TEST to prevent inadvertent keying, it comes back up on next
powerup in normal mode.

Bob NW8L

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Dave Hachadorian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I've got my K3 set up for cw on Field Day with a laptop usb port driving 
a
usb to serial converter. Rig control and cw keying are done over the 
serial

cable, using the K3's built-in ability to send cw from pin 4(?) of the
rs-232 cable.

Everything works fine, but I got quite a scare when I turned on the K3 
and

it came up keyed-down 120 watts into no antenna.  It seems that if the
laptop is not running the logging program, rs-232 pin 4 can very well be 
in
a key-down state. I don't see any way to prevent this event from 
happening
again, except to unplug the rs-232 cable, turn the rig on, make sure vox 
is
off, turn off the K3, plug in the rs-232 cable, and then turn the K3 back 
on

again.

Once it happens to you, you get gunshy about turning the rig on with 
rs-232

connected. Maybe there could be some sort of inhibit to prevent this from
happening? Or maybe someone can suggest an easier way to prevent this 
from
happening. On my old TS-850, there was an actual switch to disable vox, 
and

I always disabled vox before turning on the rig.

My permanent setup back home uses LPT keying, so I can leave the computer
key jack unplugged.

Thanks.

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Big Bear Lake, CA
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[Elecraft] On the subject of kit-building aids ..

2008-06-27 Thread Ken Kopp
Someone made mention of obtaining an Opti-visor (SP?) at a 
craft store.  Another quality brand is made by Magni-Focuser.  
This one has a handy feature in the form of a knob at the back 
of the headband that allows for easy size adjustment.  The

Opti-visor's band tends to slip and work loose.

Craft stores sell a nice light made by OTT-LITE.  They come in
a wide variety of sizes and forms, and several models have built-in
magnifiers.  They tend to be "pricey" at craft stores, but can be
found from other sources.  OTT-LITE would like you to believe
their bulbs are "special", and they may well be, but Home Depot
sells replacement lamps for -much- lower prices.

There are four OTT-LITES here in my shack and Rose has two
in her sewing room that she uses in the making of her cases and
covers.  One is a floor stand version that's right above sewing head
one of her machines.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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RE: [Elecraft] Use of "ITS" vs "IT'S"

2008-06-27 Thread Darwin, Keith

-Original Message-
From: Ron D'Eau Claire

I'm a professional writer who makes that mistake a lot - in
quickly-composed e-mails! 

---

Every time I write a phrase using _its_ or _it's_ I have to stop and
think about it.  It's just not natural to me even after all these years.
"It's" looks like it shouldn't have its apostrophe and "its" is missing
its.

*sigh*

I'm just glad that CW is for the most part a punctuation-free mode!

- Keith N1AS -
- K3 711 -
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Key-down on power-up

2008-06-27 Thread Bob Cunnings
I've always wondered why TEST mode wasn't persistent - if I put the K3
into TEST to prevent inadvertent keying, it comes back up on next
powerup in normal mode.

Bob NW8L

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Dave Hachadorian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've got my K3 set up for cw on Field Day with a laptop usb port driving a
> usb to serial converter. Rig control and cw keying are done over the serial
> cable, using the K3's built-in ability to send cw from pin 4(?) of the
> rs-232 cable.
>
> Everything works fine, but I got quite a scare when I turned on the K3 and
> it came up keyed-down 120 watts into no antenna.  It seems that if the
> laptop is not running the logging program, rs-232 pin 4 can very well be in
> a key-down state. I don't see any way to prevent this event from happening
> again, except to unplug the rs-232 cable, turn the rig on, make sure vox is
> off, turn off the K3, plug in the rs-232 cable, and then turn the K3 back on
> again.
>
> Once it happens to you, you get gunshy about turning the rig on with rs-232
> connected. Maybe there could be some sort of inhibit to prevent this from
> happening? Or maybe someone can suggest an easier way to prevent this from
> happening. On my old TS-850, there was an actual switch to disable vox, and
> I always disabled vox before turning on the rig.
>
> My permanent setup back home uses LPT keying, so I can leave the computer
> key jack unplugged.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
> Big Bear Lake, CA
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[Elecraft] K3 Key-down on power-up

2008-06-27 Thread Dave Hachadorian
I've got my K3 set up for cw on Field Day with a laptop usb 
port driving a usb to serial converter. Rig control and cw 
keying are done over the serial cable, using the K3's 
built-in ability to send cw from pin 4(?) of the rs-232 
cable.


Everything works fine, but I got quite a scare when I turned 
on the K3 and it came up keyed-down 120 watts into no 
antenna.  It seems that if the laptop is not running the 
logging program, rs-232 pin 4 can very well be in a key-down 
state. I don't see any way to prevent this event from 
happening again, except to unplug the rs-232 cable, turn the 
rig on, make sure vox is off, turn off the K3, plug in the 
rs-232 cable, and then turn the K3 back on again.


Once it happens to you, you get gunshy about turning the rig 
on with rs-232 connected. Maybe there could be some sort of 
inhibit to prevent this from happening? Or maybe someone can 
suggest an easier way to prevent this from happening. On my 
old TS-850, there was an actual switch to disable vox, and I 
always disabled vox before turning on the rig.


My permanent setup back home uses LPT keying, so I can leave 
the computer key jack unplugged.


Thanks.

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Big Bear Lake, CA 


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[Elecraft] K3: Problems using N1MM on 6M

2008-06-27 Thread Tom Carney

I encountered a couple of problems with the K3 and N1MM while on 6M.  These
problems seem to be resolved by updating to beta version 2.10 of the
firmware.

In case others encounter them here is a description of the problems.  First
the mode listed in N1MM's band map would indicate CW-R when the K3 was in CW
mode.  Second problem, I was unable to interrupt the sending of a CW macro
by hitting the "esc" key.

The release notes for version 2.03 document a fix for the CW-R problem. 
This same fix may have resolved the "esc" problem.  In any case something in
2.10 resolved the problem.  

73,

Tom K6EU

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RE: [Elecraft] K2 Distorted TX audio on 10m and 12m only

2008-06-27 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Hi Jeff: 

First, note that 12 meters (along with 60, 30 and 17 meters) will NOT be
used for Field Day. Those bands are "off limits" to contests. 

But your K2 should work fine there and on 10 just the same. 

Does this occur with a good dummy load attached? That sounds a LOT like RF
feedback. Such feedback is often much worse on higher frequencies. The same
basic audio/modulator stages of the K2 are used on *all* bands, so if your
audio is good on the lower bands, they are working properly. 

The other possibility is some sort of instability in the output stages on
the higher frequencies. That is quite unusual in Elecraft rigs, but when it
happens it is often the result of a poor load at the antenna. Again a dummy
load might identify that by making the problem go away. 

When checking with a dummy load. Be certain you have a good 50 ohm coaxial
cable between the rig and the load (it's a good idea to use a different
cable).

Ron AC7AC 

-Original Message-

My K2 sounds fine on all bands on all modes, both TX and RX except for 10
and 12m. On those two bands, RX is fine, but TX sounds horrible on all
modes, LSB, USB, and CW. It puts out full power though. Any ideas?

I'd really like to use this at field day. Of course 12 and 10 probably won't
even be open...

Thanks,
Jeff

-- 
73 de n1ywb

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Clock time is off now with beta FW

2008-06-27 Thread Tom Childers, N5GE
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:21:37 +0100, Dave G4AON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>It must be a couple of weeks since I set my K3 clock, I installed f/w 
>2.10 as soon as it came out.
>
>My clock is currently within 5 seconds of being correct... I don't think 
>there is a problem here.
>
>73 Dave, G4AON
>K3/100 #80
[snip]

Same here.  No problem.

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Re: [Elecraft] Optivisor?

2008-06-27 Thread Rick Dettinger


On Jun 27, 2008, at 8:03 AM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:




A word of warning to all the  young gentlemen who want to look  
"cool" out
there, I've been wearing Optivisors for 30 years now, ever since I  
handled
my first SMDs. As a single fellow on the prowl I always wanted to  
look good.
One day I jumped up from the bench in the lab to head into the front  
office
at the company where I worked. As I walked through the facility,  
several
attractive young women smiled broadly at me. I winked back and  even  
chatted

up one or two, wondering why I was suddenly so noticeable.

My errand done, I returned to the lab to discover that I had   
flipped the
Optivisor up over my head without thinking about it. They work great  
that
way, getting the lenses out of the way without removing the nice  
padded head
band. So what the YLs were smiling about was me walking through the  
facility

with this ridiculous looking contraption sticking up on my head.

Sigh!

Ron AC7AC



Another word of warning.  Optivisors cut off peripheral vision.  But I  
"knew" just where my soldering iron was.  After a 2 hour wait in the  
emergency room, the doctor gave me a tube of silver sulfadiazine and  
told me to be careful.  700 degrees burns very fast.  Usually, I can  
adjust the optivisor up slightly, so that I can also see underneath  
with glasses only.

73
Rick Dettinger
K7MW 
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Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3: Just hooked up my mic, no SSB out

2008-06-27 Thread Joseph M. Durnal
Thanks Don,

Yeah, the bias was my problem, but you don't get it it by moving the
VFO knob, which is what got me confused.  You have to tap 2 :).

73 de Joseph Durnal NE3R

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Don Wilhelm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Joseph,
>
> Do you have the menu microphone selection correct?  It is the main menu.  Go
> to the MIC SEL entry and turn VFO A knob until it says FP.L bIAS. That is
> what I use for my MD2 and the MH2 should be similar.  I run with the Mic
> gain set at about 37 and the CMP set to about 24.  You could use FP.H bias,
> but your mic gain would be quite different than mine.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> Joseph M. Durnal wrote:
>>
>> Still having trouble.  It does seem to transmit SSB - I enabled the 2
>> tone test and that worked when I pushed the PTT.  But it doesn't seem
>> that the mic is putting audio into the rig.
>>
>> I'll need to run SSB for field day, I'd also be happy with suggestions
>> on what to do if this mic doesn't work.  I have a heil pro set with an
>> 8 pin connector, but that doesn't seem to work either.  I have an
>> alinco and icom hand mic that I could borrow.  I also have a foot
>> switch.  I wonder if I could use the proset by plugging it into the
>> back panel w/ RCA, and a foot switch to key it?
>>
>> Thanks & 73 de Joseph Durnal NE3R
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Joseph M. Durnal
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Got my Elecraft MH2 mic this morning, but it doesn't seem to be
>>> working the PTT works, but there is no power out when I speak into the
>>> it.  Any ideas?  Now I'll spend some time with my nose in the manual.
>>>
>>> (I should have probably done my field day prep a little more in advance)
>>>
>>> Thanks & 73 de Joseph Durnal NE3R
>
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RE: [Elecraft] Use of "ITS" vs "IT'S"

2008-06-27 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Ha, ha!

I'm a professional writer who makes that mistake a lot - in quickly-composed
e-mails! 

There's a huge difference between formal and informal writing! I'd be sorry
if anyone to hesitated to add a post because their English skills might not
be quite up to the highest standards of formal writing.

One of the beauties of human language, including English, is its (note the
lack of an apostrophe) high level of redundancy that allows us to use wrong
words, leave out words (one of my most common e-mail mistakes) or to
occasionally throw in a punctuation mark incorrectly, yet the meaning
remains crystal clear. 

E-mails are, to me, more like casual conversation than "writing".
Thankfully!

Hope your arm heals quickly.

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
Hello everyone,

It's been a long time since my last post to the reflector, but I currently
have lots of time on my hands (maybe too much)while my broken left arm
(upper end of humerus bone) mends.  I hope you will read this in the way it
is indended - - simply for information, not criticism.

The Elecraft reflector is one of the best I've ever read.  Its users are
thoughtful and well-informed IMHO.  But I cannot resist the urge to clarify
the difference between two frequently misspelled or misused homonyms: ITS
and IT'S. 

The contraction "it's" literally means "it is."  However, as I recall from
the tough syntax lessons I learned, the possessive pronoun "its" takes no
apostrophe to indicate the possessive sense we intend.

Thanks for the bandwidth, and drop me a note if you'd care to indulge me in
a CW QSO.  But be warned: even a broken left arm makes CW tough to generate,
even for a right-handed ham :~).

73,

Steve Banks
K0PQ

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Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3: Just hooked up my mic, no SSB out

2008-06-27 Thread Don Wilhelm

Joseph,

Do you have the menu microphone selection correct?  It is the main menu. 
 Go to the MIC SEL entry and turn VFO A knob until it says FP.L bIAS. 
That is what I use for my MD2 and the MH2 should be similar.  I run with 
the Mic gain set at about 37 and the CMP set to about 24.  You could use 
FP.H bias, but your mic gain would be quite different than mine.


73,
Don W3FPR

Joseph M. Durnal wrote:

Still having trouble.  It does seem to transmit SSB - I enabled the 2
tone test and that worked when I pushed the PTT.  But it doesn't seem
that the mic is putting audio into the rig.

I'll need to run SSB for field day, I'd also be happy with suggestions
on what to do if this mic doesn't work.  I have a heil pro set with an
8 pin connector, but that doesn't seem to work either.  I have an
alinco and icom hand mic that I could borrow.  I also have a foot
switch.  I wonder if I could use the proset by plugging it into the
back panel w/ RCA, and a foot switch to key it?

Thanks & 73 de Joseph Durnal NE3R


On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Joseph M. Durnal
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Got my Elecraft MH2 mic this morning, but it doesn't seem to be
working the PTT works, but there is no power out when I speak into the
it.  Any ideas?  Now I'll spend some time with my nose in the manual.

(I should have probably done my field day prep a little more in advance)

Thanks & 73 de Joseph Durnal NE3R

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Re: [Elecraft] Strange behavior

2008-06-27 Thread Gary D Krause

Hi David,

I have the 10 watt version and I've noticed that mine jumps between the 
frequency and power display setting every once in a while.  It will also jump 
between frequency and keyer speed setting too.  It doesn't happen very often 
and when it does, I just ignore it.  I figure it's just a glitch.  All part of 
having computers and radios mixed together. :-)  I know that may not be a 
satisfactory answer but, I just don't worry about it since it doesn't affect 
how my K2 operates.  If the power output and keying speed were to change 
because, of it then I would be concerned.


Gary, N7HTS


On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:24:56 -0700 (PDT)
 "David N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello all
My K2 has begun to flash back and forth between power reading and frequency. 
When the power setting is above 10 watts KPA ON I assume.

When you change the vfo it will flash between power and Freq sometimes.
Also with the power display showing it only reads 68 watts flickering 69 
watts. But it puts out full power. I assume it is in the KPA 100 but the only 
thing that I can see that controls the KPA 100 on off is U1 So what does this 
have to do with reporting? With KPA Off it operates as suppose to. My K2 is 
going to be the cw rig for our club field day. 3A NFL


Thanks
David KR4OW


 
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RE: [Elecraft] Optivisor?

2008-06-27 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Yeah, working on tiny stuff with loupes and strong magnifiers a lot I know
what you mean. 

For me, there's a point beyond which it becomes really clumsy keeping things
in focus because the depth of field is so tiny. 

I made that comment because I've seen a lot of bad lenses and their defects
are magnified right along with the object being studied. Often, it seems,
the defects grow larger faster than what we're trying to see! I've seem some
"Optivisor"-like binocular magnifiers at very low prices that are terrible! 

I normally wear reading glasses, so that may be why 4X is ideal for me. I do
a lot of work with only the Optivisor and then add my reading glasses when I
need really strong magnification (actually I have small reading glasses so I
can peer over the top of them then tilt my head slightly to add them to the
optical path instantly when needed, just like I do without the Optivisor). 

Like so many things, there is no "best" solution for everyone.

A word of warning to all the  young gentlemen who want to look "cool" out
there, I've been wearing Optivisors for 30 years now, ever since I handled
my first SMDs. As a single fellow on the prowl I always wanted to look good.
One day I jumped up from the bench in the lab to head into the front office
at the company where I worked. As I walked through the facility, several
attractive young women smiled broadly at me. I winked back and  even chatted
up one or two, wondering why I was suddenly so noticeable. 

My errand done, I returned to the lab to discover that I had  flipped the
Optivisor up over my head without thinking about it. They work great that
way, getting the lenses out of the way without removing the nice padded head
band. So what the YLs were smiling about was me walking through the facility
with this ridiculous looking contraption sticking up on my head. 

Sigh! 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:49 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Optivisor?


I'm sure distortion was a bad choice of words; it was not a cheap knock-off.
Field of view was far too short with the 4x for me.  The 3x has proven to be
perfectly usable for me, with a much better field of view.  The fact that
I'm accustomed to progressives with a high power *may* be a factor here.  As
I said, I realize a lot of guys like the 4's.

As an aside, I live less than 8 miles from the Optivisor company.

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RE: [Elecraft] how to build interface cable between K3 and XV144

2008-06-27 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Hello Johnny:

You should have received the "Elecraft Transverter Models XV50, XV144,
XV222, XV432 Owner's Manual" with your transverter kit. It's separate  from
the assembly manual. See page 9 of that manual for the details. 

If you don't have it, it's available for download here:

http://www.elecraft.com/manual/XV%20Transverter%20Owner's%20Manual-D.pdf

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

Hello Group,

Both the K3 and XV144 manuals do not give the details to build an interface
cable between K3 (with KXV3) and XV144.

Can anybody help and show me where to get the information?

TNX & 73

Johnny Siu VR2xmc

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RE: [Elecraft] Optivisor?

2008-06-27 Thread KM5Q

For local sources of Optivisor, try art and craft supply stores.

Windy KM5Q
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Just hooked up my mic, no SSB out

2008-06-27 Thread Joseph M. Durnal
Thanks Craig.

BIAS :)

73 de Joseph Durnal NE3R

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Craig D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Joseph ...
>
> Yes, a bad mic the day before Field Day would be a bummer.
>
> Your settings should be as follows - see the Menu Functions in your K3
> manual for details:
>
> I assume you will have MH2 connected to the front panel.  The Mic Sel menu
> item should be set to FRONT, either LOW or HIGH, and BIAS ON.  The Bias ON
> is needed because the MH2 is an electret mic.  Gain setting will work with
> either LOW or HIGH, you will just have a different gain setting depending on
> how you configure this.  I think I ended up with LOW for my MH2 ( I now use
> a Heil Proset plus connected to the rear, so I don't remember exactly).
>
> Good luck!
>
> 73
>   ... Craig
>
> Craig D. Smith
> PowerSmith Consulting
> 1009 Alder Way
> Longmont, CO  80503
> phone:  303-678-7958
> email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> web:  www.PowerSmithConsulting.com
>
>
> <> -Original Message-
> <> From: Joseph M. Durnal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 8:38 AM
> <> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Just hooked up my mic, no SSB out
> <>
> <> A bad mic would not make me happy - as I doubt they would have it
> <> replaced by tomorrow.
> <>
> <> I don't see a setting for bias.  Still new to the K3, not really going
> <> to use it much for SSB - except for on Field Day.
> <>
> <> Any suggestons?
> <>
> <> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Craig D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> <> > Joseph ...
> <> >
> <> > By all means check the mic settings on the K3 (bias, etc.).  But don't
> rule
> <> > out the possibility of a bad mic.  The MH2 I ordered with my K3 turned
> out
> <> > to be defective - same symptom as yours.  They replaced it,  of course.
> <> >
> <> > 73
> <> >   ... Craig   AC0DS
> <> > Craig D. Smith
> <> > PowerSmith Consulting
> <> > 1009 Alder Way
> <> > Longmont, CO  80503
> <> > phone:  303-678-7958
> <> > email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <> > web:  www.PowerSmithConsulting.com
> <> >
> <> >
> <> > <> -Original Message-
> <> > <> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <> > <> On Behalf Of Joseph M. Durnal
> <> > <> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 8:08 AM
> <> > <> To: Elecraft Reflector
> <> > <> Subject: [Elecraft] K3: Just hooked up my mic, no SSB out
> <> > <>
> <> > <> Got my Elecraft MH2 mic this morning, but it doesn't seem to be
> <> > <> working the PTT works, but there is no power out when I speak into
> the
> <> > <> it.  Any ideas?  Now I'll spend some time with my nose in the
> manual.
> <> > <>
> <> > <> (I should have probably done my field day prep a little more in
> advance)
> <> > <>
> <> > <> Thanks & 73 de Joseph Durnal NE3R
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[Elecraft] Optivisor

2008-06-27 Thread MASH
Hi Tom (and Everyone):
I use an Optivisor.  I bought it during my KX1 build. It made a
tremendous difference! You might want to get the magnifying
attachment too.  I got mine in the jewelery district.  It seems
to me Harbor Freight may have something like this on their
website, if not the exact brand.
I am excited as the next article on my series on the history of
the novice era for QCWA Journal is arriving in the mailboxes of
QCWA members. Its based on my novice website
www.Novice.bappy.com
Happy Field Day everyone!
73s, Cliff, WW6CC
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[Elecraft] Use of "ITS" vs "IT'S"

2008-06-27 Thread STEPHEN W BANKS
Hello everyone,

It's been a long time since my last post to the reflector, but I currently have 
lots of time on my hands (maybe too much)while my broken left arm (upper end of 
humerus bone) mends.  I hope you will read this in the way it is indended - - 
simply for information, not criticism.

The Elecraft reflector is one of the best I've ever read.  Its users are 
thoughtful and well-informed IMHO.  But I cannot resist the urge to clarify the 
difference between two frequently misspelled or misused homonyms: ITS and IT'S. 

The contraction "it's" literally means "it is."  However, as I recall from the 
tough syntax lessons I learned, the possessive pronoun "its" takes no 
apostrophe to indicate the possessive sense we intend.

Thanks for the bandwidth, and drop me a note if you'd care to indulge me in a 
CW QSO.  But be warned: even a broken left arm makes CW tough to generate, even 
for a right-handed ham :~).

73,

Steve Banks
K0PQ
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[Elecraft] Re: K3: Just hooked up my mic, no SSB out

2008-06-27 Thread Joseph M. Durnal
Still having trouble.  It does seem to transmit SSB - I enabled the 2
tone test and that worked when I pushed the PTT.  But it doesn't seem
that the mic is putting audio into the rig.

I'll need to run SSB for field day, I'd also be happy with suggestions
on what to do if this mic doesn't work.  I have a heil pro set with an
8 pin connector, but that doesn't seem to work either.  I have an
alinco and icom hand mic that I could borrow.  I also have a foot
switch.  I wonder if I could use the proset by plugging it into the
back panel w/ RCA, and a foot switch to key it?

Thanks & 73 de Joseph Durnal NE3R


On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Joseph M. Durnal
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Got my Elecraft MH2 mic this morning, but it doesn't seem to be
> working the PTT works, but there is no power out when I speak into the
> it.  Any ideas?  Now I'll spend some time with my nose in the manual.
>
> (I should have probably done my field day prep a little more in advance)
>
> Thanks & 73 de Joseph Durnal NE3R
>
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RE: [Elecraft] HRD flxx selection sp3

2008-06-27 Thread Ad Spaninks (pe1ftv)
Yep, same here ...

73,  Ad (pe1ftv) 

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Hi All:
Anyone seen this with HRD 4 sp3
Select filter and pick anyone that you have installed. The selection
immediately goes to fl 5 with min bandwidth.
This looks like a bug for Simon to fix, not apparent in SP2.
73's
Bob
KK6UE
K3 #681
Field day bound


  
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[K3] [Elecraft] [k3] Wattmeter calibration

2008-06-27 Thread Dave G4AON
I calibrated my K3 power meter against a calibrated (bought assembled & 
calibrated) LP100 that is only a few months old. My WMTR HP calibration 
is 062.


You mentioned the Acom 1000, I also have one of those. On mine (and it 
was mentioned in one of the reviews as well), the digital power level 
displayed on the Acom is over optimistic by quite a margin. From memory 
1 KW on the display was more like 850 or 900 Watts from the rear panel, 
if I was being cynical I would suggest it helps sell amplifiers!


73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
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[Elecraft] [K3] Clock time is off now with beta FW

2008-06-27 Thread Dave G4AON
It must be a couple of weeks since I set my K3 clock, I installed f/w 
2.10 as soon as it came out.


My clock is currently within 5 seconds of being correct... I don't think 
there is a problem here.


73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
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[Elecraft] K3: Just hooked up my mic, no SSB out

2008-06-27 Thread Joseph M. Durnal
Got my Elecraft MH2 mic this morning, but it doesn't seem to be
working the PTT works, but there is no power out when I speak into the
it.  Any ideas?  Now I'll spend some time with my nose in the manual.

(I should have probably done my field day prep a little more in advance)

Thanks & 73 de Joseph Durnal NE3R
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Re: [K3] [Elecraft] [k3] Wattmeter calibration

2008-06-27 Thread G4ILO


GW0ETF wrote:
> 
> Finally I got round to checking the wattmeter calibration as I've felt
> it's been giving out power levels below what the wattmeter on the front
> panel reports ever since I've had it.
> 
> First alerted when my Acom 1000 seemed to giving low output until I saw
> the amp's input reporting a significantly lower driving power eg 35w as
> against a K3 setting of 45w into a dummy load. Also 2 independant power
> meters seemed to agree even though admittedly they weren't lab standard.
> 
> So I did the configuration while measuring voltage across a dummy load
> with my 40MHz 'scope and found I needed to wind the  setting way
> down to minimum (010) to get the power up to 50 watts on the 'scope (and
> yes I did remember the RMS to peak conversion ;-). Seeing that the default
> setting is 100 I thought I might ask others what setting seems to be the
> norm.
> 
> Needless to say I've not noticed anything odd about running 80 or 85 watts
> instead of 100 these past few months but (wrong) numbers do have a habit
> of bugging you eventually
> 
I was a bit worried about doing this setting as I didn't have any accurately
calibrated wattmeter other than my home made QRP ones. In the end I used my
DL1 module. It didn't seem to mind handling 50W for the few seconds needed
to get the reading on my voltmeter. I think the lowest I needed to wind the
setting down to was somewhere in the 70s. If I'd had to go down as low as 10
I would have worried that there was something wrong with my calculations.

-
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware 2.10,1.81 problems Update

2008-06-27 Thread G4ILO

No, the TS-2000 option doesn't work either. I have a feeling that the issue
with the K2 that I referred to affected only certain bands, where the K2
switched the sideband used by default. It only became apparent to me because
I used a macro to bring a selected signal to the center of the passband and
on some bands the signal moved the wrong way.

I can't find an option that works right with the K3 at the moment. However,
the K3 is now correctly reporting the data modes as mode 6 = normal and mode
9 = reversed, as defined in the reference manual. Previously it had them
reversed. I think that rather than redefine the mode values so that they are
the opposite of the K2, MixW needs to be updated. I expect that Simon has
already updated HRD to take account of the change, as he was told about it a
couple of weeks ago.

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Clock time is off now with beta FW

2008-06-27 Thread Don Wilhelm

Mike,

Something in your post suggests to me that you are expecting the K3 to 
pick up and use the time from your PC. AFAIK, the K3 does not do that. 
You must use the CONFIG:TIME - see manual page 44.


73,
Don W3FPR

Mike Scott wrote:

I am using new beta FW v02.10 / v01.81

Time now is 12:47 UTC (5:47AM Pacific), clock reads 01:47:xx, either 11
hours off or 13 hours off.

I use the K3 time for logging, er, I used to anyway.

I know that the rig is communicating with the PC because HRD is controlling
the K3 fine. I also know the PC is hooked to the internet and has
successfully synchronized with time-b.nist.gov.



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[Elecraft] Re: Optivisor?

2008-06-27 Thread Chris Kantarjiev
One accessory that most people don't seem to know about is the swing-down
loupe. I have this and love it - it's the perfect thing for very
close inspection of solder joints and PC board traces.

The only downside is that it makes changing out the binocular lenses
a bit more fiddly - but I rarely change from my #4.

73 de chris K6DBG
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[Elecraft] HRD flxx selection sp3

2008-06-27 Thread Robert Paull
Hi All:
Anyone seen this with HRD 4 sp3
Select filter and pick anyone that you have installed. The selection 
immediately goes to fl 5 with min bandwidth.
This looks like a bug for Simon to fix, not apparent in SP2.
73's
Bob
KK6UE
K3 #681
Field day bound


  
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[K3] [Elecraft] [k3] Wattmeter calibration

2008-06-27 Thread GW0ETF

Finally I got round to checking the wattmeter calibration as I've felt it's
been giving out power levels below what the wattmeter on the front panel
reports ever since I've had it.

First alerted when my Acom 1000 seemed to giving low output until I saw the
amp's input reporting a significantly lower driving power eg 35w as against
a K3 setting of 45w into a dummy load. Also 2 independant power meters
seemed to agree even though admittedly they weren't lab standard.

So I did the configuration while measuring voltage across a dummy load with
my 40MHz 'scope and found I needed to wind the  setting way down to
minimum (010) to get the power up to 50 watts on the 'scope (and yes I did
remember the RMS to peak conversion ;-). Seeing that the default setting is
100 I thought I might ask others what setting seems to be the norm.

Needless to say I've not noticed anything odd about running 80 or 85 watts
instead of 100 these past few months but (wrong) numbers do have a habit of
bugging you eventually

73, Stewart Rolfe, GW0ETF (K3 145)
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware 2.10,1.81 problems Update

2008-06-27 Thread G4ILO


A.K.Forrest wrote:
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> did some more on the problem. With MixW using modes RTTY or RTTYR when 
> controlled by a K3 in data mode
> the frequency scale moves to the right but the signal moves to the left. 
> They should obviously be in step i.e the
> display should show a signal at a constant frequency as the radio is 
> tuned. This works
> correctly in USB and LSB.  MixW thinks the radio mixer frequency is on 
> the opposite side of the signal to reality.
> 
> To attempt to solve the problem I reloaded the K3 software; no change. I 
> then went back to the-non beta 2.02 etc
> software; everything now working correctly.  I am pretty sure that this 
> is a real problem but maybe only for MixW
> users using the RTTY modes. It is a problem for us though, because by 
> using USB or LSB modes in MixW
> automatically switches the K3 to the same modes. This prevents use of 
> the K3 data mode features such as prevention
> of compression and other data special settings.
> 
> Julian (G4ILO) thanks for your interest. All my CAT corrections are zero 
> in MixW also. Interesting that you say there
> was some change in the last release - "K3 was erroneously reporting the 
> data modes as reversed" This looks very much
> like the problem but in the case of RTTY it seems it was correct but is 
> now incorrect.
> 
> Hope this all gets sorted in version 2.11  Keep up the good work on the 
> software and I agree with the release of beta
> software so that we can test all the nooks and crannies.
> 
>  73 Andrew M1KAZ
> 
> 
I think this is a problem with MixW, not the K3 firmware, which may have
inadvertently been correct due to the K3's reversal of its mode reporting.

In my version of MixW the radio type is set to Elecraft K2. There is no K3
option. The K2 option was a derivative of the Kenwood option, in fact it is
listed under Kenwood on the CAT selection dialog.

I was one of the first K2 owners to use MixW, many years ago. Unfortunately
my memory now is not very good, but I seem to recall that I originally had
the exact same problem as you with the K2 and MixW. I think that the K2 used
opposite sidebands to the Kenwood radios (and probably to the K3 as well.) I
emailed Nick, the developer of MixW, about it, and he fixed it in the next
release. So if my supposition is correct, the K2 option in MixW works right
for the K2, but not for the K3.

I think MixW needs to be corrected to work with the current K3 firmware,
which is now correctly reporting the data modes in software to correspond
with what is shown on the front panel. In the meantime, you might find that
switching to the TS-2000 option solves the problem. I very much doubt if
MixW uses any commands that are exclusive to the Elecraft radios, so this is
almost certain to be OK.

-
Julian, G4ILO  K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392
G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com
KComm for K2/K3: www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Clock time is off now with beta FW

2008-06-27 Thread hank k8dd
I downloaded and installed 2.10 beta FW last night - the K3 was turned on 
for a couple of hours and then off the rest of the night. Just checked 
and the time is within 20 sec of my atomic clock in the shack.  So I don't 
see that problem here.

Maybe it's the difference between Pacific time and Eastern time zones?!

73HankK8DD


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Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] Clock time is off now with beta FW



I am using new beta FW v02.10 / v01.81

Time now is 12:47 UTC (5:47AM Pacific), clock reads 01:47:xx, either 11
hours off or 13 hours off.

I use the K3 time for logging, er, I used to anyway.

I know that the rig is communicating with the PC because HRD is 
controlling

the K3 fine. I also know the PC is hooked to the internet and has
successfully synchronized with time-b.nist.gov.

Mike Scott - AE6WA
Tarzana, CA (DM04 / near LA)
K3-100 #508/ KX1  #1311



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