Re: [Elecraft] K3 2 meter capability: internal K144XV or XV144 transverter?

[AD6XY]

It is really up to you but a 100W VHF amplifier should not need more than 10W
of drive, typically much less. A 300W will amplifier perhaps need more
drive. Of course the output will be cleaner if under run, so a 25W amplifier
running 10W ought to be cleaner than when running 25W.

You only really need 25W of drive if you are using a large triode and hoping
for 1500W, indeed perhaps more like 50W would be appropriate. For a 300w
solid state PA like the reccomended by me Tokyo Hi Power HL-350Vdx it makes
no difference. It has 10W, 25W and 50W input settings.

Mike



Phil Hystad wrote:
> 
> What is the better solution for adding 2 meter capability to the K3, the
> new internal K144XV or the XV144 transverter.  I see that the power output
> of the K144XV is 10 watts and that the power output of the transverter is
> about 20 to 25 watts.  Let's assume I would want a 100 watt PA, does it
> make a difference on whether I have 10 watts drive or 25 watts drive? 
> Since I have not looked at any such linear amplifier I am not sure what
> the drive requirement would be.
> 
> I have not exhaustively read all the documentation available on these two
> but I was curious if there were any "stand out" reasons for choosing one
> over the other.
> 
> Thanks,
> phil, K7PEH
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 with Heil PR781 Speech Processor or Pre-Amp?

[Jim Brown]

On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:25:14 -0500, Don Wilhelm wrote:

>I don't have any first hand experience with external speech processors 
>and the K3, but with the controls available in the K3 itself - TXEQ, mic 
>level, and compression, I wonder why anyone would want to use additional 
>processing.

I strongly agree, Don. The K3 has everything built in to transmit very high 
quality and very aggressive communications audio. There is NO need to add 
ANYTHING external to a K3 other than a good mic, and the Heils would be at 
the bottom of my list of recommended products. 

73,

Jim K9YC



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Re: [Elecraft] [k3] NB & Chirp

[Vic K2VCO]

Wes Stewart wrote:
> I worked and have since been listening to J79WE on 40m CW for some time.  The 
> wind is
> blowing about 40 mph so the power lines are acting up and I've been tweaking 
> the noise
> blanker.
> 
> While playing around I noted that his signal had developed some chirp.  I 
> thought that
> strange, since he was clean when I worked him.  I fired up old reliable, my 
> TS870 and
> listened to him and he was T9 with no chirp (and no audio distortion).  On 
> the K3 he
> definitely had chirp, then I happened to turn off the noise blanker and the 
> chirp went
> away.
> 
> The Noise blanker setting were IF=MED4 and DSP=T3-7.  The chirp seems to be 
> related to
> the DSP part of it.
> 
> Anyone else notice this?

Are you sure it was chirp -- a change in frequency when keying? Or was it a 
softening of 
the leading edge of the keyed elements?

The latter is characteristic of the DSP noise blanker when it's at an advanced 
setting, 
like T3-7. Some distortion is part of the tradeoff for noise blanking.

I used to say "you know, it sounds like a guy with a slow-starting crystal 
oscillator" 
until I realized that you very rarely hear any crystal-controlled rigs these 
days.
-- 
73,
Vic, K2VCO
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[Elecraft] [k3] NB & Chirp

[Wes Stewart]

I worked and have since been listening to J79WE on 40m CW for some time.  The 
wind is blowing about 40 mph so the power lines are acting up and I've been 
tweaking the noise blanker.

While playing around I noted that his signal had developed some chirp.  I 
thought that strange, since he was clean when I worked him.  I fired up old 
reliable, my TS870 and listened to him and he was T9 with no chirp (and no 
audio distortion).  On the K3 he definitely had chirp, then I happened to turn 
off the noise blanker and the chirp went away.

The Noise blanker setting were IF=MED4 and DSP=T3-7.  The chirp seems to be 
related to the DSP part of it.

Anyone else notice this?

Wes Stewart,  N7WS




  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 with Heil PR781 Speech Processor or Pre-Amp?

[Bill W5WVO]

Sorry, my bad. I meant the H or L gain range settings in the MIC
SEL entry of the main menu. In MIC SEL, tap "1" to toggle between
Low and High mic gain range for the selected mic. Use the High
setting for most Heil mics.

That's what I get for answering a question off the top of my head.
Sorry.

Bill W5WVO


- Original Message - 
From: "Radio Amateur N5GE" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 with Heil PR781 Speech Processor or
Pre-Amp?


> On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 17:36:52 -0700, "Bill W5WVO"

> wrote:
>
> Bill please explain to me how the AF Gain changes the Mic input
level
> to the TX.  Did you mean to say Mic Gain?
>
> Tom, N5GE
>
> n...@n5ge.com
> K3 #806 with SUB RX, K3 #1055, PR6,
> XV144, XV432, KRC2,
> W1, 2 W2's and other small kits
>
> 1 K144XV on order
>
> http://www.n5ge.com
> http://www.swotrc.net
>
> >You probably have the AF GAIN parameter in CONFIG set to LOW
> >(which I believe is the default). Set it to HIGH, and you
should
> >have plenty of audio from Heil mics, which tend to be a little
on
> >the low-output side.
> >
> >Bill W5WVO
> >
> >
> [snip]
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Questions posted

[Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft]

Guys,
Please take the personal comments off list.

Eric 
Elecraft list moderator 

James Sarte  wrote:

>Are you writing this in response to my encoder noise question?
>
>If so, what exactly was the point of this message?
>
>Too bad about not being able to handle a little sarcasm as well...
>
>Cheers,
>James K2QI
>
>-Original Message-
>From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
>[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of rfenab...@gmail.com
>Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:17 PM
>To: Elecraft
>Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Questions posted
>
>IMHO
>
>1. I didn't think questions posted on the reflector HAD to be answered or
>commented on
>
>2. When a touch of sarcasm is detected I for one, immediately reach for the
>Delete key
>
>But it is a lovely day and my construction is going well so the smile is
>firmly planted across my face, as rough looking as that may be...(:-))
>
>73's
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Re: [Elecraft] [HAM] Windows 7 and LoTW

[Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft]

Guys, please drop the Elecraft list from this OT thread.

Eric 
Elecraft List moderator 

WILLIS COOKE  wrote:

>Mike and Dan, I finally got the Certificate Expired warning to see what you 
>were talking about.  It appears to me to be generated by Microsoft Internet 
>Explorer rather than anything at ARRL LOTW.  I have been getting such warnings 
>when I try to download any software that did not give Microsoft its cut for 
>some time, but this appears to be a new revenue enhancement attempt by MS to 
>me.  I now have a message on Yahoo that states "To help protect your security, 
>Internet Explorer has blocked this website from displaying content tiwh 
>securith certificate errors.  Click here for options.  I will click and write 
>another email.
> Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
>K5EWJ 
>
>
>
>
>
>From: WILLIS COOKE 
>To: AB3EN 
>Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 9:04:29 PM
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [HAM] Windows 7 and LoTW
>
>
>I had no difficulty installing a certificate on Windows 7 64 bit Home 
>Premium.  I downloaded a new tQSL program from the web site, made a transfer 
>certificate and intalled it per directions.  I made a new ADIF from 
>XMlog, made a .tq8 file and certified it then uploaded it.  I did nothing 
>unusual in regards to Administrator other than log into my account which is an 
>administrator account.
> Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
>K5EWJ 
>
>
>
>
>
>From: AB3EN 
>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 4:01:02 PM
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [HAM] Windows 7 and LoTW
>
>
>The error appears to be related to the way tQSL writes to its own data files.
>I have checked all the permission issues and tried running it as the Admin
>and even as an XP SP3 program. No luck. 
>
>I hope to find someone who has found the secret formula. This is in Win 7
>Professional. The tQSL program and the LoTW setup has never been my
>favorite. 
>
>Dan AB3EN 
>
>
>
>
>AD6XY wrote:
>> 
>> I have just requested a new certificate. I had an error message that mine
>> had expired when I tried to import into the new Windows 7 system. The
>> error message was variable though so it might not be that.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
>
>-
>
>Dan AB3EN
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 in diversity mode

[Vic K2VCO]

Richard Zwirko wrote:

> However, I kept having one minor annoyance. With the K3 in the diversity
> mode the VFO's are locked so they track the exact same frequency. More than
> a few times during the contest,  when I used the RIT, I would accidentily
> bump the VFO-B knob. To get VFO-B back to the same frequency required
> tapping the A>B button. Is there any reason why the VFO-B knob could be not
> be deactivated when the K3 is in the diversity mode? I can think of no
> reason why I'd want to tune VFO-B while in this mode. Deactivating VFO-B
> would prevent it accidentily unlocking the two VFOs.

It sounds to me as if you were not in diversity mode, but rather LINK mode. If 
you hold 
the SUB button for about a second, it links the vfos so that they will tune 
together. But 
the frequencies need not be the same. To get diversity mode, hold the SUB 
button for a 
longer time until you see DVRSTY on the screen. Then you can use VFO B for a 
transmit VFO 
for split operation.
-- 
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Vic, K2VCO
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[Elecraft] K3 in diversity mode

[Richard Zwirko]

I received my new K3 a few days before the ARRL 160 Meter Contest. (Thanks
to wife Phyllis, K1WSN for early Christmas/Birthday presents for the next 5+
years). I used it a few days earlier in the ARCI 160M QRP Sprint and in the
ARRL 160M test, both in the diversity mode with a NE/SW Beverage on the sub
receiver. It worked great. In the ARRL 160M contest, running low power I
managed to make 1047 QSOs in 74 sections and 21 countries. It was great
being able to copy weak signals as the faded up and down in level from one
ear to the other.

However, I kept having one minor annoyance. With the K3 in the diversity
mode the VFO's are locked so they track the exact same frequency. More than
a few times during the contest,  when I used the RIT, I would accidentily
bump the VFO-B knob. To get VFO-B back to the same frequency required
tapping the A>B button. Is there any reason why the VFO-B knob could be not
be deactivated when the K3 is in the diversity mode? I can think of no
reason why I'd want to tune VFO-B while in this mode. Deactivating VFO-B
would prevent it accidentily unlocking the two VFOs.

73 de Rich - K1HTV
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[Elecraft] K3 2 meter capability: internal K144XV or XV144 transverter?

[Phil Hystad]

What is the better solution for adding 2 meter capability to the K3, the new 
internal K144XV or the XV144 transverter.  I see that the power output of the 
K144XV is 10 watts and that the power output of the transverter is about 20 to 
25 watts.  Let's assume I would want a 100 watt PA, does it make a difference 
on whether I have 10 watts drive or 25 watts drive?  Since I have not looked at 
any such linear amplifier I am not sure what the drive requirement would be.

I have not exhaustively read all the documentation available on these two but I 
was curious if there were any "stand out" reasons for choosing one over the 
other.

Thanks,
phil, K7PEH

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Re: [Elecraft] [HAM] Windows 7 and LoTW

[Craig WØLV]

Yep no problem

Craig WØLV



AB3EN wrote:
> 
> Has anyone been able to install a TQSL certificate under Windows 7? I have
> been trying to get the certificate request to function and ARRL folks have
> not been helpful. I get the should work...duh response. Looks like a
> security flaw in the TQSL program that taking ownership, or run as, or XP
> SP3 compat does not fix. Suggestions please.
> 
> Dan AB3EN
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 with Heil PR781 Speech Processor or Pre-Amp?

[Radio Amateur N5GE]

On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 17:36:52 -0700, "Bill W5WVO" 
wrote:

Bill please explain to me how the AF Gain changes the Mic input level
to the TX.  Did you mean to say Mic Gain?

Tom, N5GE

n...@n5ge.com
K3 #806 with SUB RX, K3 #1055, PR6,
XV144, XV432, KRC2,
W1, 2 W2's and other small kits

1 K144XV on order

http://www.n5ge.com
http://www.swotrc.net

>You probably have the AF GAIN parameter in CONFIG set to LOW
>(which I believe is the default). Set it to HIGH, and you should
>have plenty of audio from Heil mics, which tend to be a little on
>the low-output side.
>
>Bill W5WVO
>
>
[snip]

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Re: [Elecraft] [HAM] Windows 7 and LoTW

[Iain MacDonnell - N6ML]

What you're describing is completely separate from the LoTW
certificate expiration problem, which has nothing to do with IE or
Microsoft, and everything to do with ARRL and the TrustedQSL software
(the LoTW issuing certification authority's certificate expired, and
they apparently were unable to renew it).

In any case, the ARRL-LOTW Yahoo! group is the right venue, and AB3EN
has already taken his problem there.

~Iain / N6ML


On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 6:01 PM, WILLIS COOKE  wrote:
> I read the warning note and it is from Microsoft.  Apparently they have 
> started blocking web sites that don't pay their certificate fees.  This is a 
> bad omen in my view.
>  Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
> K5EWJ
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: WILLIS COOKE 
> To: AB3EN ; Elecraft Reflector 
> Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 7:51:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [HAM] Windows 7 and LoTW
>
> Mike and Dan, I finally got the Certificate Expired warning to see what you 
> were talking about.  It appears to me to be generated by Microsoft Internet 
> Explorer rather than anything at ARRL LOTW.  I have been getting such 
> warnings when I try to download any software that did not give Microsoft its 
> cut for some time, but this appears to be a new revenue enhancement attempt 
> by MS to me.  I now have a message on Yahoo that states "To help protect your 
> security, Internet Explorer has blocked this website from displaying content 
> tiwh securith certificate errors.  Click here for options.  I will click and 
> write another email.
>  Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
> K5EWJ
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: WILLIS COOKE 
> To: AB3EN 
> Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 9:04:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [HAM] Windows 7 and LoTW
>
>
> I had no difficulty installing a certificate on Windows 7 64 bit Home 
> Premium.  I downloaded a new tQSL program from the web site, made a transfer 
> certificate and intalled it per directions.  I made a new ADIF from 
> XMlog, made a .tq8 file and certified it then uploaded it.  I did nothing 
> unusual in regards to Administrator other than log into my account which is 
> an administrator account.
>  Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
> K5EWJ
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: AB3EN 
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 4:01:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [HAM] Windows 7 and LoTW
>
>
> The error appears to be related to the way tQSL writes to its own data files.
> I have checked all the permission issues and tried running it as the Admin
> and even as an XP SP3 program. No luck.
>
> I hope to find someone who has found the secret formula. This is in Win 7
> Professional. The tQSL program and the LoTW setup has never been my
> favorite.
>
> Dan AB3EN
>
>
>
>
> AD6XY wrote:
>>
>> I have just requested a new certificate. I had an error message that mine
>> had expired when I tried to import into the new Windows 7 system. The
>> error message was variable though so it might not be that.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> -
>
> Dan AB3EN
> --
> View this message in context: 
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Re: [Elecraft] [HAM] Windows 7 and LoTW

[WILLIS COOKE]

I read the warning note and it is from Microsoft.  Apparently they have started 
blocking web sites that don't pay their certificate fees.  This is a bad omen 
in my view.
 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ 





From: WILLIS COOKE 
To: AB3EN ; Elecraft Reflector 
Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 7:51:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [HAM] Windows 7 and LoTW

Mike and Dan, I finally got the Certificate Expired warning to see what you 
were talking about.  It appears to me to be generated by Microsoft Internet 
Explorer rather than anything at ARRL LOTW.  I have been getting such warnings 
when I try to download any software that did not give Microsoft its cut for 
some time, but this appears to be a new revenue enhancement attempt by MS to 
me.  I now have a message on Yahoo that states "To help protect your security, 
Internet Explorer has blocked this website from displaying content tiwh 
securith certificate errors.  Click here for options.  I will click and write 
another email.
 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ 





From: WILLIS COOKE 
To: AB3EN 
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 9:04:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [HAM] Windows 7 and LoTW


I had no difficulty installing a certificate on Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium.  
I downloaded a new tQSL program from the web site, made a transfer certificate 
and intalled it per directions.  I made a new ADIF from XMlog, made a .tq8 file 
and certified it then uploaded it.  I did nothing unusual in regards to 
Administrator other than log into my account which is an administrator account.
 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ 





From: AB3EN 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 4:01:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [HAM] Windows 7 and LoTW


The error appears to be related to the way tQSL writes to its own data files.
I have checked all the permission issues and tried running it as the Admin
and even as an XP SP3 program. No luck. 

I hope to find someone who has found the secret formula. This is in Win 7
Professional. The tQSL program and the LoTW setup has never been my
favorite. 

Dan AB3EN 




AD6XY wrote:
> 
> I have just requested a new certificate. I had an error message that mine
> had expired when I tried to import into the new Windows 7 system. The
> error message was variable though so it might not be that.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [Elecraft] [HAM] Windows 7 and LoTW

[WILLIS COOKE]

Mike and Dan, I finally got the Certificate Expired warning to see what you 
were talking about.  It appears to me to be generated by Microsoft Internet 
Explorer rather than anything at ARRL LOTW.  I have been getting such warnings 
when I try to download any software that did not give Microsoft its cut for 
some time, but this appears to be a new revenue enhancement attempt by MS to 
me.  I now have a message on Yahoo that states "To help protect your security, 
Internet Explorer has blocked this website from displaying content tiwh 
securith certificate errors.  Click here for options.  I will click and write 
another email.
 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
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From: WILLIS COOKE 
To: AB3EN 
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 9:04:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [HAM] Windows 7 and LoTW


I had no difficulty installing a certificate on Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium.  
I downloaded a new tQSL program from the web site, made a transfer certificate 
and intalled it per directions.  I made a new ADIF from XMlog, made a .tq8 file 
and certified it then uploaded it.  I did nothing unusual in regards to 
Administrator other than log into my account which is an administrator account.
 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ 





From: AB3EN 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 4:01:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [HAM] Windows 7 and LoTW


The error appears to be related to the way tQSL writes to its own data files.
I have checked all the permission issues and tried running it as the Admin
and even as an XP SP3 program. No luck. 

I hope to find someone who has found the secret formula. This is in Win 7
Professional. The tQSL program and the LoTW setup has never been my
favorite. 

Dan AB3EN 




AD6XY wrote:
> 
> I have just requested a new certificate. I had an error message that mine
> had expired when I tried to import into the new Windows 7 system. The
> error message was variable though so it might not be that.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Questions posted

[James Sarte]

Are you writing this in response to my encoder noise question?

If so, what exactly was the point of this message?

Too bad about not being able to handle a little sarcasm as well...

Cheers,
James K2QI

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Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:17 PM
To: Elecraft
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Questions posted

IMHO

1. I didn't think questions posted on the reflector HAD to be answered or
commented on

2. When a touch of sarcasm is detected I for one, immediately reach for the
Delete key

But it is a lovely day and my construction is going well so the smile is
firmly planted across my face, as rough looking as that may be...(:-))

73's
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Shift/Width encoder pulse noise?

[James Sarte]

Hi Joe,

Thanks for the reply.  I don't think it's much of an issue either.  Only
reason I asked is I recently replaced front panels.  I didn't know if I
screwed something up during the transplant.  I do not recall hearing the
same ticking/pulse noise with the previous hardware.  Good to know I'm in
the clear.

73 de James K2QI


-Original Message-
From: Joe Planisky [mailto:jp...@jeffnet.org] 
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:26 PM
To: James Sarte
Cc: Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Shift/Width encoder pulse noise?

Hi James,

As far as the noise when you turn shift/width, yes, I hear it too.  I  
assume it's the result of changing the DSP filter parameters.  If done  
while it's processing a strong signal it seems there's bound to be  
some artifacts.  I don't know if anything can be done to quiet them.   
I personally don't consider it a problem, but others might object to it.

As for the shift/width not altering the sub-RX settings unless you're  
in B-set, I think that's normal unless you're in diversity mode.

As for the different feel of the encoders, I can't comment.  Haven't  
had to replace mine.

73
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Shift/Width encoder pulse noise?

[Joe Planisky]

Hi James,

As far as the noise when you turn shift/width, yes, I hear it too.  I  
assume it's the result of changing the DSP filter parameters.  If done  
while it's processing a strong signal it seems there's bound to be  
some artifacts.  I don't know if anything can be done to quiet them.   
I personally don't consider it a problem, but others might object to it.

As for the shift/width not altering the sub-RX settings unless you're  
in B-set, I think that's normal unless you're in diversity mode.

As for the different feel of the encoders, I can't comment.  Haven't  
had to replace mine.

73
--
Joe KB8AP


On Dec 7, 2009, at 4:54 PM, James Sarte wrote:

>
> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:18 PM, James Sarte   
> wrote:
>
>> whenever I turn the filter shift or
>> width knobs now, I get a fairly loud encoder pulse noise.

[snip]

>> Also, when switching over to the sub receiver, rotating the width/ 
>> shift
>> knobs don't have an effect unless I enter the B-set menu.
>>

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[Elecraft] K3 Questions posted

[rfenabled]

IMHO

1. I didn't think questions posted on the reflector HAD to be answered or 
commented on

2. When a touch of sarcasm is detected I for one, immediately reach for the 
Delete key

But it is a lovely day and my construction is going well so the smile is firmly 
planted across my face, as rough looking as that may be...(:-))

73's
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 Distorted Sound while using AM, now, speaking of AM..

[Steve Ellington]

Personally I would feel more at home with this bunch by just buying an old 
6m tube rig like the Clegg 99er or Gonset Communicator. One could probably 
obtained for the same or less cost of a K3 filter.
Steve
N4LQ
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To: "'Elecraft Reflector'" 
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 Distorted Sound while using AM, now, 
speaking of AM..


>Speaking of AM. There is a group that runs a weekly AM net on 50.400
> here in West Michigan. Almost all are using vintage tube gear, which is
> OK, but I would like to check in with the K3. Right now, all I have is
> the 2.7 KHz SSB filter, and I can listen to them, but these radios are
> many times 2-4 kHz off frequency, so I have to tune around. Time to get
> a filter so I can transmit.
>
>So would I do better in listening and transmitting with the 6 or the
> 13 Khz filter? I won't have the low band interference like I would on
> 75. And doesn't the K3 limit the audio response on TX to around 3 Khz?
>
>Anyone else spend any amount of time on 6 AM?
>
>  73 de tom K8TB
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Re: [Elecraft] OT--A Suggestion About Printers [END of thread]

[Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft]

Let's end the printer thread.

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 Distorted Sound while using AM, now, speaking of AM..

[K8TB]

Speaking of AM. There is a group that runs a weekly AM net on 50.400 
here in West Michigan. Almost all are using vintage tube gear, which is 
OK, but I would like to check in with the K3. Right now, all I have is 
the 2.7 KHz SSB filter, and I can listen to them, but these radios are 
many times 2-4 kHz off frequency, so I have to tune around. Time to get 
a filter so I can transmit.

So would I do better in listening and transmitting with the 6 or the 
13 Khz filter? I won't have the low band interference like I would on 
75. And doesn't the K3 limit the audio response on TX to around 3 Khz?
   
Anyone else spend any amount of time on 6 AM?

  73 de tom K8TB

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Shift/Width encoder pulse noise?

[James Sarte]

Odd... a few days have passed and not a single response to my query.  I did
some searching and noticed people have mentioned "ticks" or "ticking" when
rotating the width knob, but I'm not sure if what I've described can be
considered the same thing.

Anyway, does anyone care to comment or should I forget about it? Obviously
my question doesn't seem to be as important as others.

73 de James K2QI

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:18 PM, James Sarte  wrote:

> Greetings reflector fans,
>
> I noticed something odd tonight with my K3; something I've never noticed
> before.  I decided to do some SWL'ing around 40m and test out the relatively
> new Sync-AM feature.  All works well but whenever I turn the filter shift or
> width knobs now, I get a fairly loud encoder pulse noise.  This is similar
> to the VFO encoder hash on 5 MHz that I used to get prior to the
> hardware/software mod implementation.  This enoder pulse/hash sounds loudest
> when the received signal is strongest, or when using an antenna jack that
> has an antenna connected.  I can't seem to replicate the problem on 20m.
> Also, when switching over to the sub receiver, rotating the width/shift
> knobs don't have an effect unless I enter the B-set menu.
>
> The noise seems to be present in all modes (AM, CW, Data, USB, and LSB).
>
> This is with the latest beta firmware; 3.63.  I've just reverted back to
> 3.42 to see if there's a change, and there isn't (perhaps the hash isn't as
> loud, but it's still there).
>
> I recently replaced my FP due to my original FP's encoders going bad.  I
> have a new FP that I replaced myself.  The encoders used in the new FP
> have a stiffer resistance to turning and don't have the detent feel any
> more.  I'm not sure if something could have happened when I replaced the
> panel, but I doubt it as everything else seems to work FB.
>
> Anyway, just thought I'd toss this out there.  Anyone have any
> suggestions?  Anyone notice anything similar?
>
> --
> 73 de James K2QI
>



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 with Heil PR781 Speech Processor or Pre-Amp?

[Bill W5WVO]

You probably have the AF GAIN parameter in CONFIG set to LOW
(which I believe is the default). Set it to HIGH, and you should
have plenty of audio from Heil mics, which tend to be a little on
the low-output side.

Bill W5WVO


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Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:42 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 with Heil PR781 Speech Processor or
Pre-Amp?




To the List:

I just brought my new kit K3 on line using
the Heil PR781. The microphone has great tone; however, it seems
that
I need a little more signal going into the K3. I'd like to know
what
more experienced (which is everyone in comparison to me)
Elecraft users have to say on the subject of speech processors and
pre-amps used with the K3.

Thanks,

Brian KD0HII

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 Distorted Sound while using AM

[Bill W5WVO]

Even if you do have a wide roofing filter, this method is
oftentimes superior when listening to weak-signal HF broadcast
signals at 5 kHz (or less) channel spacing. Typically, one
sideband will present significantly less interference than the
other, providing intelligible copy that is unattainable listening
to full-bandwidth double-sideband AM in the usual fashion.

Bill W5WVO

- Original Message - 
From: "Guy Olinger K2AV" 
To: "Richard Jones - KJ5QY" 
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 Distorted Sound while using AM


> ...If you do not have a 6.0 or 13 kHz filter, the only
> good sounding demodulation of an AM signal is SSB
> on one or the other sideband. This is surprisingly
> good sounding, and I use it for listening to BC that
> is down in the noise ... I actually use as narrow as
> 1.8 kHz SSB with the shift and width adjusted for
> best voice versus noise...

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[Elecraft] [K3] RE: K3: SWR meter adjustment

[N0SA]

I have contacted Elecraft support to see what they have to say.
My radio has no internal tuner and I move the coax from device to device so
there is no difference in connections or coax lengths. The coax goes
straight out to the antenna which is a ground mounted vertical fed at the
base with an SGC autotuner.
On all three bands the SWR readings are  very close and low on the K3, the
Icom and Palstar analyzer both read about .5 higher and match closely to
each other.
Larry
N0SA

 

 

Hi, 

Do you have the internal antenna tuner option installed? 

AB2TC - Knut 

N0SA wrote:

I just noticed that the SWR meter readings on my K3 do not match my IC-7000
or my Palstar antenna analyzer. The Icom and the Palstar both read the same
but the K3 reads lower. 
The K3 reads 1.0:1 the others read 1.5:1. 
Is there an adjustment for the K3, or am I just being too critical here? 
Larry 
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Re: [Elecraft] How can one shut down a K3 radio remotely?

[Don Wilhelm]

John,

Use the PS cat command - see the K3 Programmer's Reference.
Power on must be external to the K3 - pull pin 8 of the ACC connector 
low with some external device (or press the POWER switch)..

Please note: Even if you ask a question in the subject line, please 
repeat it in the body of your post - IMHO it is more meaningful just to 
make a brief reference in the subject line and ask the question in the text.

73,
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[Elecraft] How can one shut down a K3 radio remotely?

[John K9UWA]

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 with Heil PR781 Speech Processor or Pre-Amp?

[Don Wilhelm]

Brian,

I don't have any first hand experience with external speech processors 
and the K3, but with the controls available in the K3 itself - TXEQ, mic 
level, and compression, I wonder why anyone would want to use additional 
processing.

I might add a cautionary note - using two speech compressors in tandem 
can easily cause problems with distortion (by compressing an already 
compressed waveform).  So if you use compression in the external 
processor, turn it off (to zero) in the K3 - or if you want the K3 
compressor on, tun it off in the external processor.

73,
Don W3FPR

br...@brianlinn.com wrote:
> To the List:
>
> I just brought my new kit K3 on line using
> the Heil PR781. The microphone has great tone; however, it seems that
> I need a little more signal going into the K3. I'd like to know
> what
> more experienced (which is everyone in comparison to me)
> Elecraft users have to say on the subject of speech processors and
> pre-amps used with the K3.
>   
>
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[Elecraft] [K3] RE: K3: SWR meter adjustment

[N0SA]

NO

 

From: ab2tc [via Elecraft] [mailto:ml-node+4128755-2035094...@n2.nabble.com]

Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:57 PM
To: N0SA
Subject: Re: K3: SWR meter adjustment

 

Hi, 

Do you have the internal antenna tuner option installed? 

AB2TC - Knut 

N0SA wrote:

I just noticed that the SWR meter readings on my K3 do not match my IC-7000
or my Palstar antenna analyzer. The Icom and the Palstar both read the same
but the K3 reads lower. 
The K3 reads 1.0:1 the others read 1.5:1. 
Is there an adjustment for the K3, or am I just being too critical here? 
Larry 
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[Elecraft] K3 with Heil PR781 Speech Processor or Pre-Amp?

[brian]

To the List:

I just brought my new kit K3 on line using
the Heil PR781. The microphone has great tone; however, it seems that
I need a little more signal going into the K3. I'd like to know
what
more experienced (which is everyone in comparison to me)
Elecraft users have to say on the subject of speech processors and
pre-amps used with the K3.

Thanks,

Brian KD0HII

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3: SWR meter adjustment

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

It's possible the K3's SWR indication is off. I'm trying to help you remove
the other possibilities for error first.

If you have a KAT3 it must be in BYPASS. If you need it to obtain the match
at the K3 the K3 SWR reading will not indicate the actual SWR on the coax,
only the SWR the K3 "sees" through the tuner. 

If you don't have a 1:1 match with the KAT3 in BYPASS, you'll need a good 50
ohm dummy load to compare meters. 

If you're still concerned, post a query to K3support at elecraft dot com.
You'll find a wealth of help from the Elecraft technical team, including the
engineers themselves. 

Ron AC7AC 


-Original Message-

Here are the results on three bands:
Each radio or antenna analyzer is connected to the exact same coax, there
are
no added switches or connections, the coax goes straight to the antenna.
  K3   IC-7000  Palstar Antenna analyzer
40M1.1:1 1.5:1  1.6:1
30M 1.2:11.5:1  1.6:1
20M1.1:1 1.5:1  1.4:1

Sure looks like the K3 is off to me comparedf to the other two 
Larry
N0SA

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: incrementing Power level

[Ian White GM3SEK]

Wayne Burdick wrote:

 If this area of code is to be revisited, the gap in available power
 settings on 50MHz also needs to be addressed.

>This is on my firmware list.

Thank you, that's what I was hoping to hear.



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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3: SWR meter adjustment

[N0SA]

Here are the results on three bands:
Each radio or antenna analyzer is connected to the exact same coax, there
are
no added switches or connections, the coax goes straight to the antenna.
  K3   IC-7000  Palstar Antenna analyzer
40M1.1:1 1.5:1  1.6:1
30M 1.2:11.5:1  1.6:1
20M1.1:1 1.5:1  1.4:1

Sure looks like the K3 is off to me comparedf to the other two 
Larry
N0SA


Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
> 
> Is that on all bands? 
> 
> How long is the coaxial cable between the K3 and the external meter? 
> 
> Both of those things will have a pronounced effect on the SWR. Even though
> the K3 has found a 1.0:1 match, that says nothing about the SWR on the
> coaxial line. The readings you see on an external SWR meter may vary
> widely
> if the system is not terminated in a 50-ohm non-reactive load. An antenna
> seldom presents a 50 ohm non-reactive load. 
> 
> First put a known good dummy load on the rig. That will keep the SWR on
> the
> coax low. Now compare your external meters with the K3 using a very short
> piece of coax (a few inches) and do the comparison at a fairly low
> frequency
> - 160 or 80 meters - to reduce the effects of any remaining stray
> reactance.
> Check one meter at a time since the SWR meter itself adds a little
> reactance. They should agree fairly well under those conditions. A range
> of
> 0.2 is pretty common (i.e. 1.0:1 and 1.2:1), but I'd start to question the
> meter if one read 1.5:1 and the other 1.0:1 under those conditions. 
> 
> Ron AC7AC
> 
> -Original Message-
> I just noticed that the SWR meter readings on my K3 do not match my
> IC-7000
> or my Palstar antenna analyzer. The Icom and the Palstar both read the
> same
> but the K3 reads lower.
> The K3 reads 1.0:1 the others read 1.5:1.
> Is there an adjustment for the K3, or am I just being too critical here?
> Larry
> N0SA
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3: SWR meter adjustment

[ab2tc]

Hi,

Do you have the internal antenna tuner option installed?

AB2TC - Knut


N0SA wrote:
> 
> I just noticed that the SWR meter readings on my K3 do not match my
> IC-7000 or my Palstar antenna analyzer. The Icom and the Palstar both read
> the same but the K3 reads lower.
> The K3 reads 1.0:1 the others read 1.5:1.
> Is there an adjustment for the K3, or am I just being too critical here?
> Larry
> N0SA
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: incrementing Power level

[Wayne Burdick]

This is on my firmware list.

Wayne


http://www.elecraft.com

On Dec 7, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Ian White GM3SEK   
wrote:

> Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>>
>> Ian,
>>
>>> If this area of code is to be revisited, the gap in available power
>>> settings on 50MHz also needs to be addressed.
>>>
>>> The maximum available power without the KPA3 is 8W on 50MHz, but the
>>> minimum available power with the KPA3 activates is about 13W
>>> - a jump of more than 60%.
>>
>> The "gap" is not a matter of code, it is a matter of the power
>> available from the LPA on six meters.  The LPA can not make more
>> than about 8 watts and stay "clean."  However, the gain (ca. 12 dB)
>> of the HPA is such that 13W is a minimum practical output.  This
>> leaves the gap.
>>
>
> Only the lower end of the gap, 8W, is a hardware limitation. The upper
> end of the gap, 13W, is set by DSP.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: incrementing Power level

[Ian White GM3SEK]

Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
>Ian,
>
>> If this area of code is to be revisited, the gap in available power
>> settings on 50MHz also needs to be addressed.
>>
>> The maximum available power without the KPA3 is 8W on 50MHz, but the
>> minimum available power with the KPA3 activates is about 13W
>> - a jump of more than 60%.
>
>The "gap" is not a matter of code, it is a matter of the power
>available from the LPA on six meters.  The LPA can not make more
>than about 8 watts and stay "clean."  However, the gain (ca. 12 dB)
>of the HPA is such that 13W is a minimum practical output.  This
>leaves the gap.
>

Only the lower end of the gap, 8W, is a hardware limitation. The upper 
end of the gap, 13W, is set by DSP.

On 1.8-30MHz the KPA3 comes online above 12W. The excitation level is 
automatically reduced in DSP (by ca. 12dB, equal to the gain of the 
KPA3) so that the next notch of the PWR control will be a smooth 
transition from 12W to 13W. Then the excitation level is ramped up again 
to cover the 'high' power range from 13 to 100W.

The only thing wrong with 50MHz is that the 'high' power range appears 
to be using the same code as the lower bands. Nobody outside Elecraft 
knows how easy or difficult it would be to change the excitation levels 
for 50MHz to bring the next available step down to 9W... hence the 
respectful request to see if this problem can be addressed.


>If the external 50 MHz amplifier needs only 10 W for full output
>(e.g., a grid driven tetrode) additional grid swamping on an
>attenuator would be a wise investment.
>
That statement is only valid for some people's amplifiers and some 
countries' power limits. But regardless of all that, modifying the 
amplifier would be a clumsy external patch for a problem that resides 
strictly in the transceiver.

The real issue is that a gap of 60% in the available power level, from 
any transmitter, on any band, simply ain't elegant.



73 from Ian GM3SEK


>> -Original Message-
>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
>> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ian
>> White GM3SEK
>> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 1:39 PM
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: incrementing Power level
>>
>>
>> DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote:
>> >Well, if this can be a user selection fine.  But I really like the
>> >"tiny steps" below 12 watts.  Please retain that.
>>
>> If this area of code is to be revisited, the gap in available power
>> settings on 50MHz also needs to be addressed.
>>
>> The maximum available power without the KPA3 is 8W on 50MHz, but the
>> minimum available power with the KPA3 activates is about 13W
>> - a jump of
>> more than 60%.
>>
>> This isn't important when the K3 is operating barefoot... but
>> with some
>> power amplifiers, in some countries, the legal power limit
>> falls right
>> into the hole.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] OT--A Suggestion About Printers

[wham727]

Most of us get a little hot under the collar when you we learn the truth about 
inkjet printers.  The time I researched it, inkjet ink costs about $3000-$5000 
a gallon at the retail prices.  
 
The printer manufacturers have used the "Gillette" model for several years now. 
 
Not only do they charge outrageous ink prices, they also make sure they get 
their money by embedding page counters in their printers or ink cartridges.  
Usually this takes the form of an embedded chip.
You may have 30% more ink when you get the out of ink warning.  Inkjets are the 
most expensive type of printing you can do.  The “Gillette model” assures them 
a steady revenue stream for as long as you own the printer.

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[Elecraft] Help

[Richard Thorpe]

I put my  kit together, everything went smoothly.  Plugged it in  
started up, almost everything works ( relay chatter when switching in  
the SUB receive) and it sounds like there is no antenna attached on  
every band on every antenna port with all kinds of antennas. There are  
plenty of "birdies" especially on 40 meters.  I pulled the second  
receive and checked the connection and routing of the coax ( the only  
area where I think the kit is lacking, especially the rear connection  
to the second receive from the bnc) put the "receive box" back and the  
radio is the same.  What have I done wrong? please help.  Thank you.

R Thorpe KD6LAZ radio #3697
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[Elecraft] W2 Utility Programs now available for Mac & Linux!

[Brian]

Attention users of Mac OS X & Linux:

Thanks to the excellent work of Dick Dievendorff (K6KR), and David 
Fleming (W4SMT), we now have available W2 Utility Programs for these 
systems.  Now you can upgrade your W2 firmware to the latest revs 
(currently at 0.91).

Check out...

http://www.elecraft.com/software/W2/elecraft_w2_software.htm

...for details.

73,
Brian Broggie (W6FVI)
Elecraft, Inc.



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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3: SWR meter adjustment

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Is that on all bands? 

How long is the coaxial cable between the K3 and the external meter? 

Both of those things will have a pronounced effect on the SWR. Even though
the K3 has found a 1.0:1 match, that says nothing about the SWR on the
coaxial line. The readings you see on an external SWR meter may vary widely
if the system is not terminated in a 50-ohm non-reactive load. An antenna
seldom presents a 50 ohm non-reactive load. 

First put a known good dummy load on the rig. That will keep the SWR on the
coax low. Now compare your external meters with the K3 using a very short
piece of coax (a few inches) and do the comparison at a fairly low frequency
- 160 or 80 meters - to reduce the effects of any remaining stray reactance.
Check one meter at a time since the SWR meter itself adds a little
reactance. They should agree fairly well under those conditions. A range of
0.2 is pretty common (i.e. 1.0:1 and 1.2:1), but I'd start to question the
meter if one read 1.5:1 and the other 1.0:1 under those conditions. 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
I just noticed that the SWR meter readings on my K3 do not match my IC-7000
or my Palstar antenna analyzer. The Icom and the Palstar both read the same
but the K3 reads lower.
The K3 reads 1.0:1 the others read 1.5:1.
Is there an adjustment for the K3, or am I just being too critical here?
Larry
N0SA
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[Elecraft] knobs - becomes Custom clearing in France

[Raymond METZGER]

Hi,

 

Your vision of the delivery timing in France doesn't match at all my own
experience. My K3, sent at 4 p.m. local time in California, has been
delivered by UPS 2 days later, 9 a.m. Paris time.

Smaller items, sent by Aptos through the US Mail, have always (4 or five
times) arrived in  less than 1 week.

 

Think positive !

 

de Raymond, F4FNT

 

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[Elecraft] [K3] K3: SWR meter adjustment

[N0SA]

I just noticed that the SWR meter readings on my K3 do not match my IC-7000
or my Palstar antenna analyzer. The Icom and the Palstar both read the same
but the K3 reads lower.
The K3 reads 1.0:1 the others read 1.5:1.
Is there an adjustment for the K3, or am I just being too critical here?
Larry
N0SA
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: incrementing Power level

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

Ian, 

> If this area of code is to be revisited, the gap in available power 
> settings on 50MHz also needs to be addressed.
> 
> The maximum available power without the KPA3 is 8W on 50MHz, but the 
> minimum available power with the KPA3 activates is about 13W 
> - a jump of more than 60%.

The "gap" is not a matter of code, it is a matter of the power 
available from the LPA on six meters.  The LPA can not make more 
than about 8 watts and stay "clean."  However, the gain (ca. 12 dB) 
of the HPA is such that 13W is a minimum practical output.  This 
leaves the gap.  

If the external 50 MHz amplifier needs only 10 W for full output 
(e.g., a grid driven tetrode) additional grid swamping on an 
attenuator would be a wise investment. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
  



> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ian 
> White GM3SEK
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 1:39 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: incrementing Power level
> 
> 
> DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote:
> >Well, if this can be a user selection fine.  But I really like the
> >"tiny steps" below 12 watts.  Please retain that.
> 
> If this area of code is to be revisited, the gap in available power 
> settings on 50MHz also needs to be addressed.
> 
> The maximum available power without the KPA3 is 8W on 50MHz, but the 
> minimum available power with the KPA3 activates is about 13W 
> - a jump of 
> more than 60%.
> 
> This isn't important when the K3 is operating barefoot... but 
> with some 
> power amplifiers, in some countries, the legal power limit 
> falls right 
> into the hole.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - N1MM - RTTY

[Richard Ferch]

Jim,

This is not a mode question, it's a matter of how you set your filters. 
What you see in the MMTTY waterfall/spectrum display is controlled by 
how you have set the Shift and Width controls on the K3 (and the dual 
tone filter, if you are using it), not by what mode the radio is in. I'd 
suggest you try turning the dual tone filter off while you are S&Ping, 
and opening up the width control if you want to see what is on either 
side of you.

MMTTY's X-Y display can be very useful for tuning in signals accurately. 
You can set it to "reverse rotation" in MMTTY, which I find easier to 
use than the default.

On receive, FSK D and AFSK A are basically the same. The difference is 
in how you key the transmitter. For RTTY, AFSK A and FSK D both have 
tuning, filtering and decoding aids that aren't available in DATA A. 
Also, DATA A is on the opposite sideband to AFSK A, so you have to set 
MMTTY to "Rev" when using DATA A.

73,
Rich VE3KI


> I'm just trying to figure this out for the first time.  What mode (best) does 
> one use \
> for Search and Pounce on the K3 for RTTY when using N1MM with MMTTY viewer 
> (No \
> panadapter(yet)) ???  
> 
> HRD/DM780 works great in DataA mode for general contacts but doesn't have the 
> log \
> entry panel set up for the needed exchanges for the individual contests so 
> not able \
> to upload the log file to the contest site.  Can upload ADIF to LOTW just 
> fine.
> 
> On N1MM it is hard to tune with Data mode FSK with the RTTY filter because 
> you can't \
> see much when going to the "next" station.  I was having trouble using Data A 
> mode.
> 
> TIA ex 73, de JIm KG0KP
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: incrementing Power level

[Ian White GM3SEK]

DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote:
>Well, if this can be a user selection fine.  But I really like the 
>"tiny steps" below 12 watts.  Please retain that.

If this area of code is to be revisited, the gap in available power 
settings on 50MHz also needs to be addressed.

The maximum available power without the KPA3 is 8W on 50MHz, but the 
minimum available power with the KPA3 activates is about 13W - a jump of 
more than 60%.

This isn't important when the K3 is operating barefoot... but with some 
power amplifiers, in some countries, the legal power limit falls right 
into the hole.



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Re: [Elecraft] M1-M4: Can a CW Paddle that has four memory switches be wired directly to the K3?

[Wayne Burdick]

Short answer is: not a good idea.

The K3 front panel PC board has top-surface gold-plated "landing pads"  
for each of the pushbutton switches. It might be possible to find  
appropriate vias (holes) at which to attach discrete wires to activate  
the switches externally. But this could introduce noise into the A-to- 
D switch read channels, and also cause radiated noise (RFI) to  
increase into the receiver.

A better approach would be to use an external pad of some kind to send  
commands via RS232 to the K3.

Better yet: An Elecraft accessory keypad that plugs into the front- 
panel jack under the VFO B and RIT controls. That's certainly  
something we're considering.

73,
Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] OT--A Suggestion About Printers

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

I have a Brother HL-2170W wireless laser printer in our office here:
2400/600 dpi on letter size paper, wireless 802.11b/g or wired (Ethernet)
network interfaces, 32 Mb internal memory. Costs less than $150 new from
most sources. Easy on toner. Fast. Been keeping pace with our needs - appx
200 sheets/week - for two years so far without a problem. For color work I
have an HP Photosmart 3210 "All in one" Printer-Scanner-Copier. It replaced
a 5-year old Epson that finally wore it's little gears to nubs. 

The HP does an excellent job when color photographs or printing is needed,
but I forgot to check on one important point when I bought it: the HP inks
are *not* waterproof like the Epson inks. It's not a big issue for routine
use, but you wouldn't want to address an envelope with it - not in the
Northwest anyway ;-)

But the Brother does 99% of the copy work. 

Ron AC7AC

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 Distorted Sound while using AM

[Guy Olinger K2AV]

I have utterly clear AM reception. And am so far unable to reproduce
your symptoms.

I'm not sure what firmware you are using but with last couple beta
versions it is possible to drive the DAC circuits into overrange
"blast" protection muting.

It is possible to accentuate the lows on AM to the point that it
overdrives the range of the DAC, regardless of what the AGC is doing.
When this happens the DSP programs goes into mute mode to keep from
creating garbage numbers in the program that blow your ears off. This
feature has been very strongly requested by K3 owners (not a
"mistake") and is decidedly on purpose. (See the very long threads
related to "blast".)

Set all of your equalizer settings to flat. Make sure that you are not
receiving the carrier at the edge of your passband, as full carrier is
needed to demodulate without distortion on regular AM signals (not a
K3 requirement, just physics). Even with synchronous AM, the carrier
must still be in the passband to participate in the continuous
sychronizing process.

On synchronous AM the SHIFT control only displays USB or LSB to let
you know which sideband is being used plus the carrier for synchronous
demodulation.

On non-synchronous, the SHIFT control is fairly useless as all it does
is shift the passband at a minor rate versus the tuning knob.  On AM
the sideband demodulation is provided by the carrier, so the SSB shift
effect does not work.  If it is moving the audio into distortion then
the AM carrier is being moved out of the passband and its level being
reduced below that of the sidebands.  Standard AM demodulation
requires that the carrier be a greater level than the sidebands.

Since the carrier has a fixed relationship to its sidebands, the
typical SSB shift effects for low or high audio do not apply for
standard AM demodulation, only if demodulating it as SSB. In order to
use shift to reduce lows in standard AM demodulation you would first
need to tune through one sideband's low audio, leaving the low on the
other side of carrier still providing lows. Then through the carrier
and only then through the other lows.  However since you tuned out the
carrier, the demodulation will go into distortion before you can slice
the lows on the other side of carrier.

The only audio range you can tune out in standard AM demodulation
without distortion is highs, and that requires reducing bandwidth with
the carrier in the center of the passband.

On one level your issues sound like trying to demodulate AM using a
2.7 or 2.8 SSB filter, which really sounds pretty awful. Just for
jollies make sure with the current K3 utility that you have the proper
filter chosen in the filter configuration menu, and that there is not
a mistake in the slot being used for your filters.

If you do not have a 6.0 or 13 kHz filter, the only good sounding
demodulation of an AM signal is SSB on one or the other sideband.
This is surprisingly good sounding, and I use it for listening to BC
that is down in the noise (e.g afternoon Yankee games on WCBS 880). I
actually use as narrow as 1.8 kHz SSB with the shift and width
adjusted for best voice versus noise. The NR usually has a setting
which improves it further.

This is the most attention given to AM by hams that I've seen in 40
years.  I've gone back to listening to AM broadcasts on my K3 (BC and
HF) while I'm workbenching.  There is some high grade stuff out there
to be found, and for me the K3's rendition is superior. At my age I
don't hear the 60 dB down 8 kHz buzzy artifact stuff that some people
complain about. IMHO that's something that needs to be fixed in the
analog by reducing the analog bandwidth above 4 or 5 kHz. Or fixed by
providing an actual hi-fi demod/audio board as an option for those who
want such.

73, Guy.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Richard Jones - KJ5QY  wrote:
>
> I think I found at least one of the problems.
>
> If you go into the "RX EQ" (by clicking the "MENU" button,  then turning the
> knob until you see the "RX EQ 1").  Next,  turn the lowest base control
> (Number 1) up from the "0" EQ position until you here the distortion on AM.
> It will not take much.  On my rig,  just taking it a few levels (Db) above
> the "reference" the distortion on AM is there in a vengeance.
>
> The following is the most important as I have found:  If you have/get the
> distortion and you raise the "Shift Control" (While in AM or AM Sync) from
> "*150" to "155",  the distortion completely goes away!!!  I am not sure what
> is going on here.
>
> I hope this,  and the posts above will give some additional information on
> what I am experiencing, and hopefully an answer.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> Richard Jones - KJ5QY wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am having a problem when I go into AM, or AM sync.  Example:  I go to an
>> AM Shortwave station.  If I turn the AF gain past approximately 3/4 or
>> farther the radio starts to "Stutter, Distort, and finally the audio
>> disappears.  I cannot make out what is coming out from m

Re: [Elecraft] OT--A Suggestion About Printers

[Doug Person]

g of a pain
>> in the neck when you are just trying to quickly print off a
>> couple of pages, etc.  You can also set the resolution
>> lower, to save ink, but how many of us take the time to do
>> it?  Then there is the constant (or seemingly so) prompting
>> you get that one cartridge or another is running low.  Some
>> printers has 4 or 5 different color cartridges, and they
>> never really seem to deplete at the same rate.
>>
>> A while back I started investigating laser printers, and
>> found that one model (wireless) by Brother was very highly
>> rated.  This is the model HL-5370DW.  Consumer Reports gave
>> it a very favorable review, as did a couple of computer
>> magazines.  It's black and white only, but I don't think I
>> care about color, and I can always use my HP for that.  Best
>> of all, the cost per copy was estimated at just over one
>> cent per copy, versus 5 or 6 cents per copy on most ink jet
>> models.  On my HP, I pay about $90 for a combo cartridge
>> package that will maybe get me between 500 and 1000
>> copies--if I'm lucky!  That may seem like a lot of copies,
>> but if you have kids, it isn't!  Besides, I think those
>> "estimates" are very optimistic.  A high capacity cartridge
>> for the Brother laser model, costs about $80 (on Amazon),
>> and will supposedly deliver 8,000 copies!  I take that
>> estimate with a grain of salt as well, but clearly that is
>> miles cheaper than for an inkjet printer.  There are
>> "aftermarket" suppliers that are even a lot cheaper, but I
>> don't know whether those are of sufficient quality or not.
>> Eventually you have to replace the drum on a laser printer,
>> but those are supposedly good for at least 25,000 copies, so
>> I don't expect to have to worry about that for a long time.
>>
>> Anyway, I looked into prices for the HL-5370DW, and the best
>> price I could find for it was about $220 (it "lists" for
>> about $250).  Not bad, but I deferred.  This past weekend,
>> Office Depot advertised it for $180!  I couldn't find an
>> internet price anywhere close to that.  Since the printer is
>> wireless capable, I decided it would be a good bet at that
>> price, so I picked one up.  I like it!  The setup process to
>> get it "hooked" into my WiFi system was somewhat more
>> convaluted than with my HP, but it now works fine, and I
>> have everyone's computer directed to it.  I may be kidding
>> myself, but I think I'm saving money already!
>>
>> Another big benefit was speed.  My HP is supposedly pretty
>> high end, but still it seems to go at a snail's pace--even
>> on much of the straight black and white stuff.  I just
>> printed out Jim Brown's (K9YC) treatise on RFI (61 pages) in
>> less than 2 minutes!  If I had done that on my HP I would
>> still be waiting.  Also, I did it "duplex", so only 31
>> pieces of paper, and it will go nicely into a soft binder
>> for future reference.  Unfortunately, this is a topic I need
>> to refer to frequently here because of an issue that has
>> arisen, and going back and forth to my computer was getting
>> to be a pain.  I also like to print off pertinent topics in
>> the new ARRL Handbook instead of lugging that 5 pound
>> monster around all the time.  Also, there is so much great
>> info on the internet, and sometimes you really need "hard
>> copy" to comfortably read it.
>>
>> Anyway, FWIW, I think this is a much better way to go if you
>> do much printing at all.  You can always supplement with a
>> much cheaper inkjet printer for those times when you have to
>> have color, and even the cheaper inkjets these days are
>> pretty darn good on color.  Many of the cheaper ones also
>> function as copiers, scanners, and fax machines too--they
>> are just SLOW!  I just think that perhaps as much as 95% of
>> most printing needs don't really need color, and I firmly
>> believe HP and Canon and other manufacturers have been
>> milking us dry selling us color capable printers.  It might
>> take me a year or two to recoup my investment, but in the
>> meantime I can at least enjoy the incredibly faster speed
>> from the laser printer.
>>
>> Hopefully, some of you will think this post has been
>> worthwhile.
>>
>> Dave W7AQK
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] OT--A Suggestion About Printers

[Alan Bloom]

Since this is off-topic I'll try to keep it short.

On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 08:34 -0700, David Yarnes wrote:
> I 
> think printers have become like safety razors--cheap to buy 
> on the front end, but very expensive to keep properly 
> supplied.

That's been exactly the business model of printer manufacturers for a
long time.  People think of HP as a computer company, but I have heard
that based on dollars of profit it is actually a printer cartridge
company.

> A while back I started investigating laser printers, and 
> found that one model (wireless) by Brother was very highly 
> rated.  This is the model HL-5370DW.  

I bought a Brother model HL-2170W laser printer a while back and have
been very pleased with it so far.

One tip for saving on toner:  HP is especially notorious for this but I
think they all do it.  The low-toner detector goes off long before the
toner is completely used up.  They force you to buy a new cartridge when
there is still quite a bit of life left in it.  The solution is to put a
piece of (non-transparent) tape over the toner sensor window when you
install the cartridge.  If you forget, then when the sensor trips you
have to find the secret lever to reset the cartridge so you can cover up
the window and continue to use it.  Info on modifying Brother cartridges
is here:  http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/forums/laser/39806

Also, when you start to notice faint areas on your copies you can
redistribute the toner by removing the cartridge and shaking it.  That
along will get you a couple hundred more copies.

Alan N1AL


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[Elecraft] K3: incrementing Power level

[DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL]

Well, if this can be a user selection fine.  But I really like the
"tiny steps" below 12 watts.  Please retain that.

Thanks,
de Doug KR2Q
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Re: [Elecraft] OT--A Suggestion About Printers

[Dick Williams]

I pay about $90 for a combo cartridge
> package that will maybe get me between 500 and 1000
> copies--if I'm lucky!  That may seem like a lot of copies,
> but if you have kids, it isn't!  Besides, I think those
> "estimates" are very optimistic.  A high capacity cartridge
> for the Brother laser model, costs about $80 (on Amazon),
> and will supposedly deliver 8,000 copies!  I take that
> estimate with a grain of salt as well, but clearly that is
> miles cheaper than for an inkjet printer.  There are
> "aftermarket" suppliers that are even a lot cheaper, but I
> don't know whether those are of sufficient quality or not.
> Eventually you have to replace the drum on a laser printer,
> but those are supposedly good for at least 25,000 copies, so
> I don't expect to have to worry about that for a long time.
>
> Anyway, I looked into prices for the HL-5370DW, and the best
> price I could find for it was about $220 (it "lists" for
> about $250).  Not bad, but I deferred.  This past weekend,
> Office Depot advertised it for $180!  I couldn't find an
> internet price anywhere close to that.  Since the printer is
> wireless capable, I decided it would be a good bet at that
> price, so I picked one up.  I like it!  The setup process to
> get it "hooked" into my WiFi system was somewhat more
> convaluted than with my HP, but it now works fine, and I
> have everyone's computer directed to it.  I may be kidding
> myself, but I think I'm saving money already!
>
> Another big benefit was speed.  My HP is supposedly pretty
> high end, but still it seems to go at a snail's pace--even
> on much of the straight black and white stuff.  I just
> printed out Jim Brown's (K9YC) treatise on RFI (61 pages) in
> less than 2 minutes!  If I had done that on my HP I would
> still be waiting.  Also, I did it "duplex", so only 31
> pieces of paper, and it will go nicely into a soft binder
> for future reference.  Unfortunately, this is a topic I need
> to refer to frequently here because of an issue that has
> arisen, and going back and forth to my computer was getting
> to be a pain.  I also like to print off pertinent topics in
> the new ARRL Handbook instead of lugging that 5 pound
> monster around all the time.  Also, there is so much great
> info on the internet, and sometimes you really need "hard
> copy" to comfortably read it.
>
> Anyway, FWIW, I think this is a much better way to go if you
> do much printing at all.  You can always supplement with a
> much cheaper inkjet printer for those times when you have to
> have color, and even the cheaper inkjets these days are
> pretty darn good on color.  Many of the cheaper ones also
> function as copiers, scanners, and fax machines too--they
> are just SLOW!  I just think that perhaps as much as 95% of
> most printing needs don't really need color, and I firmly
> believe HP and Canon and other manufacturers have been
> milking us dry selling us color capable printers.  It might
> take me a year or two to recoup my investment, but in the
> meantime I can at least enjoy the incredibly faster speed
> from the laser printer.
>
> Hopefully, some of you will think this post has been
> worthwhile.
>
> Dave W7AQK
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Is this feature in the K3? Have I missed it?

[Wes Stewart]

Having it set dBw would make more sense.  



--- On Mon, 12/7/09, Don Ehrlich  wrote:

> From: Don Ehrlich 
> Subject: [Elecraft] Is this feature in the K3?  Have  I missed it?
> To: "Lee Buller" , "Elecraft Reflector" 
> 
> Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 9:46 AM
> Way back in early K3 days there was a
> request for speed-sensitive power 
> setting, I think.  Faster spinning of the knob would
> move the power setting 
> faster.  I think such a feature is on the
> "list."   Of course, I could be 
> thinking of some other similar feature .. don't remember
> for sure.
> 
> Don K7FJ
> 
> 
> Is there a feature in the K3 that changes the PWR control
> from fine to 
> course? I am not complaining, but it seems that at times I
> would like to 
> have a course adjustment on the PWR control to set up an
> amplifier quickly.
> 
> Just a thoughtPWR- FINE/COURSE
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] OT--A Suggestion About Printers

[Rick Hiller]

Suggestion:  What about printing to a PDF file for most of the informational
downloads from the web.  Agreed, there are times when you must have a hard
copy, but most times a PDF will do quite nicely and you can set up your file
storage a management system to reflect different categories, topics, etc.
Heck, most down loads are PDF to begin with, so just a right mouse click
"Save Target As" works well.

 

Find a FREE...read it againFREE, PDF Printer driver.Google "Primo
PDF".  This PDF tool is meant to be free and does a great job getting PDF
out of ANY Windows based application.  I have been using it for years in my
business and "printing" is my business.

 

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Re: [Elecraft] OT--A Suggestion About Printers

[Hank Garretson]

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Bob Maser, W7AQK,  wrote:

> When you print, when the print screen comes up and before you hit the OK to
> Print key, click preferences, set the quality level to "Fast Draft" and then
> go to the Color tab and click on grayscale.  Your printer will print faster
> and use much less ink.  Try it.

Even better.  Under Control Panel, go to Printers and select your
printer.  Under preferences, select "Fast Draft" and "Grayscale."
This will now be the default for your printer and you won't have to
select it every time you print.  If you want high quality and/or color
for something, you can select it as W7AQK suggests for the individual
job, but your default will stay the same.

73,

Hank, W6SX

Mammoth Lakes, California

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[Elecraft] Is this feature in the K3? Have I missed it?

[Don Ehrlich]

Way back in early K3 days there was a request for speed-sensitive power 
setting, I think.  Faster spinning of the knob would move the power setting 
faster.  I think such a feature is on the "list."   Of course, I could be 
thinking of some other similar feature .. don't remember for sure.

Don K7FJ


Is there a feature in the K3 that changes the PWR control from fine to 
course? I am not complaining, but it seems that at times I would like to 
have a course adjustment on the PWR control to set up an amplifier quickly.

Just a thoughtPWR- FINE/COURSE


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Re: [Elecraft] OT--A Suggestion About Printers

[Bob Maser]

When you print, when the print screen comes up and before you hit the OK to 
Print key, click preferences, set the quality level to "Fast Draft" and then 
go to the Color tab and click on grayscale.  Your printer will print faster 
and use much less ink.  Try it.

Bob W6TR
- Original Message - 
From: "David Yarnes" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:34 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] OT--A Suggestion About Printers


> Hi All,
>
> I don't know how many of you share my frustration about
> printing needs, but I find it to be a fairly expensive
> process.  I've been using an HP printer that is wireless for
> about 3 years, and it does a very nice job.  However, it is
> a constant battle as those printer cartridges don't seem to
> last all that long.  I try to keep things like my K3 manual,
> and accessories, updated in a notebook, along with all the
> firmware updates, etc.  Often something you print off has
> some color in it, and the color cartridges seem to go really
> fast!  Replacements are very expensive for just about all
> makes and models, even at my favorite supplier--Costco!  I
> think printers have become like safety razors--cheap to buy
> on the front end, but very expensive to keep properly
> supplied.
>
> As I indicated above, a lot of what comes off the internet
> has color in it, but printing it in black and white would
> not be a very significant loss in most cases.  I know you
> can set your printer to do just black and white--at least
> most of them--but that does tend to be something of a pain
> in the neck when you are just trying to quickly print off a
> couple of pages, etc.  You can also set the resolution
> lower, to save ink, but how many of us take the time to do
> it?  Then there is the constant (or seemingly so) prompting
> you get that one cartridge or another is running low.  Some
> printers has 4 or 5 different color cartridges, and they
> never really seem to deplete at the same rate.
>
> A while back I started investigating laser printers, and
> found that one model (wireless) by Brother was very highly
> rated.  This is the model HL-5370DW.  Consumer Reports gave
> it a very favorable review, as did a couple of computer
> magazines.  It's black and white only, but I don't think I
> care about color, and I can always use my HP for that.  Best
> of all, the cost per copy was estimated at just over one
> cent per copy, versus 5 or 6 cents per copy on most ink jet
> models.  On my HP, I pay about $90 for a combo cartridge
> package that will maybe get me between 500 and 1000
> copies--if I'm lucky!  That may seem like a lot of copies,
> but if you have kids, it isn't!  Besides, I think those
> "estimates" are very optimistic.  A high capacity cartridge
> for the Brother laser model, costs about $80 (on Amazon),
> and will supposedly deliver 8,000 copies!  I take that
> estimate with a grain of salt as well, but clearly that is
> miles cheaper than for an inkjet printer.  There are
> "aftermarket" suppliers that are even a lot cheaper, but I
> don't know whether those are of sufficient quality or not.
> Eventually you have to replace the drum on a laser printer,
> but those are supposedly good for at least 25,000 copies, so
> I don't expect to have to worry about that for a long time.
>
> Anyway, I looked into prices for the HL-5370DW, and the best
> price I could find for it was about $220 (it "lists" for
> about $250).  Not bad, but I deferred.  This past weekend,
> Office Depot advertised it for $180!  I couldn't find an
> internet price anywhere close to that.  Since the printer is
> wireless capable, I decided it would be a good bet at that
> price, so I picked one up.  I like it!  The setup process to
> get it "hooked" into my WiFi system was somewhat more
> convaluted than with my HP, but it now works fine, and I
> have everyone's computer directed to it.  I may be kidding
> myself, but I think I'm saving money already!
>
> Another big benefit was speed.  My HP is supposedly pretty
> high end, but still it seems to go at a snail's pace--even
> on much of the straight black and white stuff.  I just
> printed out Jim Brown's (K9YC) treatise on RFI (61 pages) in
> less than 2 minutes!  If I had done that on my HP I would
> still be waiting.  Also, I did it "duplex", so only 31
> pieces of paper, and it will go nicely into a soft binder
> for future reference.  Unfortunately, this is a topic I need
> to refer to frequently here because of an issue that has
> arisen, and going back and forth to my computer was getting
> to be a pain.  I also like to print off pertinent topics in
> the new ARRL Handbook instead of lugging that 5 pound
> monster around all the time.  Also, there is so much great
> info on the internet, and sometimes you really need "hard
> copy" to comfortably read it.
>
> Anyway, FWIW, I think this is a much better way to go if you
> do much printing at all.  You can always supplement with a
> much cheaper inkjet printer for those times when you have to

Re: [Elecraft] (Fwd) Re: Droid

[Mike, ks7d]

Hi Brett,

It will require a server program to be developed for the PC, Mac or Linux 
computer that is connected to the K3. So, to provide access for Windows, Mac 
and Linux users there will need to be three different server versions 
developed. Then a client side application needs to be written to operate on 
the Android phone (and another for the iPhone for Wayne ;-) ). That client 
should be able to work through any of the server programs whether they are 
Windows, Mac or Linux based.

The biggest challenge in my mind is how to put a user friendly interface on 
the small screen of a Droid or iPhone. It is much easier to design a client 
side interface for a laptop or desktop PC because there is so much more 
screen 'real estate' available.

Mike, ks7d

--
From: "Brett Howard" 
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:01 AM
To: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] (Fwd) Re:  Droid

> I'd really dig seeing an Android K3 client however in order to work
> right it will probably require a PC side client.  I can only hope that
> we get to maintain cross platform compatibility so that Linux and Mac
> users can use the Android client...  I've been quite happy with the
> Linux K3 utility and only have to run the windows one in a VM for short
> bits while waiting for the Linux one to catch up...
>
> Any chance of the utilities being open sourced?
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Re: [Elecraft] Is this feature in the K3? Have I missed it?

[Vic K2VCO]

Lee Buller wrote:
> Is there a feature in the K3 that changes the PWR control from fine to 
> course?  I am
> not complaining, but it seems that at times I would like to have a course 
> adjustment on
> the PWR control to set up an amplifier quickly.

You can easily create a macro that will set the power in one button-press. For 
example, 
PC065; will set the power output to 65 watts.
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Re: [Elecraft] OT--A Suggestion About Printers

[Jeff KB2M]

 I wish all my radio manufactures that frequently update their manuals, send
out change pages, in addition to full copies. This would save a lot of
trees. I know you could just print out the change pages, but then you would
have a problem indexing inserts of 2 pages or more. There are obvious ways
around this indexing problem, that are acceptable as long as it is presented
correctly in the index.

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[Elecraft] OT--A Suggestion About Printers

[David Yarnes]

Hi All,

I don't know how many of you share my frustration about 
printing needs, but I find it to be a fairly expensive 
process.  I've been using an HP printer that is wireless for 
about 3 years, and it does a very nice job.  However, it is 
a constant battle as those printer cartridges don't seem to 
last all that long.  I try to keep things like my K3 manual, 
and accessories, updated in a notebook, along with all the 
firmware updates, etc.  Often something you print off has 
some color in it, and the color cartridges seem to go really 
fast!  Replacements are very expensive for just about all 
makes and models, even at my favorite supplier--Costco!  I 
think printers have become like safety razors--cheap to buy 
on the front end, but very expensive to keep properly 
supplied.

As I indicated above, a lot of what comes off the internet 
has color in it, but printing it in black and white would 
not be a very significant loss in most cases.  I know you 
can set your printer to do just black and white--at least 
most of them--but that does tend to be something of a pain 
in the neck when you are just trying to quickly print off a 
couple of pages, etc.  You can also set the resolution 
lower, to save ink, but how many of us take the time to do 
it?  Then there is the constant (or seemingly so) prompting 
you get that one cartridge or another is running low.  Some 
printers has 4 or 5 different color cartridges, and they 
never really seem to deplete at the same rate.

A while back I started investigating laser printers, and 
found that one model (wireless) by Brother was very highly 
rated.  This is the model HL-5370DW.  Consumer Reports gave 
it a very favorable review, as did a couple of computer 
magazines.  It's black and white only, but I don't think I 
care about color, and I can always use my HP for that.  Best 
of all, the cost per copy was estimated at just over one 
cent per copy, versus 5 or 6 cents per copy on most ink jet 
models.  On my HP, I pay about $90 for a combo cartridge 
package that will maybe get me between 500 and 1000 
copies--if I'm lucky!  That may seem like a lot of copies, 
but if you have kids, it isn't!  Besides, I think those 
"estimates" are very optimistic.  A high capacity cartridge 
for the Brother laser model, costs about $80 (on Amazon), 
and will supposedly deliver 8,000 copies!  I take that 
estimate with a grain of salt as well, but clearly that is 
miles cheaper than for an inkjet printer.  There are 
"aftermarket" suppliers that are even a lot cheaper, but I 
don't know whether those are of sufficient quality or not. 
Eventually you have to replace the drum on a laser printer, 
but those are supposedly good for at least 25,000 copies, so 
I don't expect to have to worry about that for a long time.

Anyway, I looked into prices for the HL-5370DW, and the best 
price I could find for it was about $220 (it "lists" for 
about $250).  Not bad, but I deferred.  This past weekend, 
Office Depot advertised it for $180!  I couldn't find an 
internet price anywhere close to that.  Since the printer is 
wireless capable, I decided it would be a good bet at that 
price, so I picked one up.  I like it!  The setup process to 
get it "hooked" into my WiFi system was somewhat more 
convaluted than with my HP, but it now works fine, and I 
have everyone's computer directed to it.  I may be kidding 
myself, but I think I'm saving money already!

Another big benefit was speed.  My HP is supposedly pretty 
high end, but still it seems to go at a snail's pace--even 
on much of the straight black and white stuff.  I just 
printed out Jim Brown's (K9YC) treatise on RFI (61 pages) in 
less than 2 minutes!  If I had done that on my HP I would 
still be waiting.  Also, I did it "duplex", so only 31 
pieces of paper, and it will go nicely into a soft binder 
for future reference.  Unfortunately, this is a topic I need 
to refer to frequently here because of an issue that has 
arisen, and going back and forth to my computer was getting 
to be a pain.  I also like to print off pertinent topics in 
the new ARRL Handbook instead of lugging that 5 pound 
monster around all the time.  Also, there is so much great 
info on the internet, and sometimes you really need "hard 
copy" to comfortably read it.

Anyway, FWIW, I think this is a much better way to go if you 
do much printing at all.  You can always supplement with a 
much cheaper inkjet printer for those times when you have to 
have color, and even the cheaper inkjets these days are 
pretty darn good on color.  Many of the cheaper ones also 
function as copiers, scanners, and fax machines too--they 
are just SLOW!  I just think that perhaps as much as 95% of 
most printing needs don't really need color, and I firmly 
believe HP and Canon and other manufacturers have been 
milking us dry selling us color capable printers.  It might 
take me a year or two to recoup my investment, but in the 
meantime I can at least enjoy the incredibl

Re: [Elecraft] Config:Wattmeter

[Robert Dorchuck]

I have built two K3's (the last one in March 09) and the calibration worked 
fine
then.

As you say, there are work arounds but it would sure be nice if the K3 
worked
as the manual shows.

Bob  W6VY




This bug in the wattmeter calibration still exists in the latest firmware.
Pressing XMIT during the wattmeter calibration does not transmit, and
pressing TUNE does not permit a change of the calibration paramter. On the
other hand keying the rig via a keyer does allow the calibration to be
performed.

Steve N9SZ

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Re: [Elecraft] Is this feature in the K3? Have I missed it?

[Gary, VE1RGB]

That's a feature I have often wanted to see as well.  My contest buddy Al
VA1MM lives 1/8 mile away and I work him to get the NS/MAR mult some times
or just to say hello, and I hate to hit him with 100W.  Unfortunately in a
contest one has no time to adjust the K3 output power to a reasonable level
for this circumstance as it is currently designed.  

Mind you, it does rather even the score for the couple times he has whacked
me with 600W in DX contests when I have had the AGC turned OFF.

73,
Gary, VE1RGB



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Sent: December 7, 2009 8:32 AM
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Subject: [Elecraft] Is this feature in the K3? Have I missed it?


Is there a feature in the K3 that changes the PWR control from fine to
course?  I am not complaining, but it seems that at times I would like to
have a course adjustment on the PWR control to set up an amplifier quickly.

Just a thoughtPWR- FINE/COURSE

Lee - K0WA




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[Elecraft] ERR TXG on 160

[Tom (HB9DOD)]

hi Guys,

My new, second K3, gives me a 5 watt calibration failure on 160 -> only 4.3 w 
with results in an err txg

all other bands OK

and a 50 w calibration on 52mhz.. -> 19 w

all others bands OK.

How do I get 160 in line...?'

Any idea welcome

73 de Tom

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Can transmit RX segment recorded on DVR?

[Oscar, WB5GCX]

Thanks Tom, I had found the user guide reference - but since it didn't
address transmitting a recorded segment (at a 5th grade level :)  I wasn't
sure if it could transmit or not.

Ah!  Geoffrey got me the key:  the monitor must be turned on/up in order to
hear the segment being transmitted.  Yes, it would be good if the monitor
could come on automatically when PTT is pressed and one plays a DVR
recording.

Is this a great radio or what??

thanks,

Oscar

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Geoffrey Downs-2 [via Elecraft] <
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> wrote:

> Oscar, Hold AF Play while PTT is pressed.
>
> You may wish to have MON on at a comfortable level so you can hear when the
>
> bit of recording you want to tx comes to an end. I believe firmware to turn
>
> MON on autmatically in these circumstances (if not on already) is on
> Wayne's
> list.
>
> 73 to all
>
> Geoff
> G3UCK
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Oscar, WB5GCX" <[hidden 
> email]>
>
> >
> > I recorded a few seconds of another ham's signal using the DVR so he
> could
> > hear what he sounds like on the air.  Is there some way I can transmit
> > that
> > audio segment back out?  I couldn't find a way, or find anything in the
> > archive.
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Re: [Elecraft] Is this feature in the K3? Have I missed it?

[Julian, G4ILO]

Lee Buller wrote:
> 
> Is there a feature in the K3 that changes the PWR control from fine to
> course?  I am not complaining, but it seems that at times I would like to
> have a course adjustment on the PWR control to set up an amplifier
> quickly.
> 
If there is I have also missed it. I'd be happy to have 1W increments below
12W and 5W increments above. Perhaps the new macro feature could be used to
set the power to a convenient level?

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Re: [Elecraft] Config:Wattmeter

[Ken K3IU]

Hi Steve:

You're right. There is a disconnect between the manual and how the 
firmware acts. There is a work-around, though. If you set up per the 
instructions with the external wattmeter in line to a dummy load, set 
power to precisely 5.0 watts for LP adjustment, go to CONFIG:WMTR, you 
will see a number above (mine 073) and WMTR  LP below. The work around 
goes like this...

*Press/Hold* the XMIT/TUNE button. This puts K3 in transmit mode. Look 
at the external wattmeter and note the reading. If it does NOT read 5 
watts, then *Tap* the XMIT/TUNE button and you will be back in the 
CONFIG:WMTR menu. Adjust the Number by rotating VFO A knob. [I think if 
the power on the external meter was greater than 5 watts, you increase 
the number, but you can check]. Then repeat the above...Press/Hold 
XMIT/TUNE, note reading, Tap XMIT/TUNE to get back to the CONFIG:WMTR 
for additional adjustment if any is necessary. When you are done, Tap 
the Menu button.

Hope this helps...

73,
Ken K3IU


steven.zabarn...@notes.udayton.edu wrote:
> This bug in the wattmeter calibration still exists in the latest firmware.
> Pressing XMIT during the wattmeter calibration does not transmit, and
> pressing TUNE does not permit a change of the calibration paramter. On the
> other hand keying the rig via a keyer does allow the calibration to be
> performed.
>
> Steve N9SZ
>
>   
>> Using the latest 2.80 firmware, I find a problem I didn't have with
>> prior versions.  It may be unrelated to the firmware change.  I have
>> only been using the radio for two weeks.
>> 
>
>   
>> TECH MD set to ON and select CONFIG: WMTR LP or HP.  The display shows a
>> three digit number.  When I hold TUNE, the display changes and shows
>> SWR.   The VFO A knob does nothing.
>> 
>
>   
>> I had set the wattmeter calibration earlier and all went as described in
>> the manual.
>> 
>
>   
>> Firmware bug??  Operator error??
>> 
>
>   
>> 73 de K1ESE
>> John
>> 
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[Elecraft] OT: Wall Warts: OK...stop the comments! :-)

[DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL]

Thanks to everyone for all their input.  My inbox was (and still is)
inundated with replies.

I got the message!!!  LOL

What a group...clearly #1.

de Doug KR2Q
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: wall wart for RX-only PS?

[Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy]

Doug,

As Mel has suggested a laptop supply is an option, I used one to power my K2 
in RX mode 24/7 over a period of almost 3 years during a propagation study. 
The supply I used outputs 15V @ 500mA, so I used a LM317 regulator after the 
supply to obtain the required output voltage for the K2 and a VHF converter. 
The LM317 is not a low dropout regulator, but I had some in my junkbox.

73,
Geoff
GM4ESD


Mel Farrer  wrote:



Hello Doug,

Most of the wall warts are just rectified AC. Very little if any filtering. 
I would not advise it unless you put it across a battery, however, I would 
be more comfortable getting a surplus laptop switching power supply and 
adjust the voltage down to 13.5 VDC or so. Most of the laptop supplies are 
about 15 VDC and VERY good on filtering and capacity. I
used two silicon diodes in series to drop the voltage to run my 817 on both 
RX and TX. It was the size of a double deck of cards. I got mine for $15. 
Good luck.

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[Elecraft] Is this feature in the K3? Have I missed it?

[Lee Buller]

Is there a feature in the K3 that changes the PWR control from fine to course?  
I am not complaining, but it seems that at times I would like to have a course 
adjustment on the PWR control to set up an amplifier quickly.

Just a thoughtPWR- FINE/COURSE

Lee - K0WA




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Re: [Elecraft] [HAM] Windows 7 and LoTW

[AB3EN]

Thanks for the input. My issues are related to a fresh install of the tQSL
programs on a fresh Win 7 and the request for a new cert (TQ5) and load
failures for the generated TQ6. 

73
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 on 160 Meters

[Julian, G4ILO]

Lee Buller wrote:
> 
> Had one issuethe K3 did not go back to receive one time.  Deaf radio. 
> Hit the Xmit again and it came back alive.  Did not have that issue again. 
> I wonder what that was?
> 
There have been a few reports of this in the last few weeks, though I think
all previous incidences were using HRD. I think there can be a conflict
between CAT PTT control and hardware PTT control. You need to set the PTT
menu option to OFF OFF. Alternatively you need to make sure that the logger
is not using both CAT and hardware PTT.

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[Elecraft] K2: CAT PTT and CW

[Julian, G4ILO]

Jim Dunstan wrote:
> 
> Is it possible to send a PTT and,or the  CW keying commands to the K2 via 
> the RS232 port if the K2 has the KIO2 module installed . using
> software 
> such as MixW.
> 
> 
Most software that supports CAT control can use it for PTT control so you
don't need a switching transistor driven by RTS or DTR to control hardware
PTT.

CW keying by CAT on the K2 and K3 uses a protocol that is unique to Elecraft
which is not supported by any software apart from the K3 utility and KComm.
A similar protocol is available on some Kenwood rigs but because it does not
provide a way to test if the buffer is full or to abort sending in
mid-transmission it is not really usable and is not supported by any
programs including MixW. Some programs that support sending CAT commands in
macros can be made to send CW via RS232 by programming the CAT commands like
"KY CQ TEST DE ;" into macros, but the text must not exceed 24
characters, the buffer length. I'm not sure if you can do that in MixW as I
no longer use it.

To send CW using MixW you need a transistor switch driven by RTS or DTR
connected to the K2 Key jack (which must be set to straight key not paddle).
I think MixW also supports Winkey keying which is more reliable.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Can transmit RX segment recorded on DVR?

[Geoffrey Downs]

Oscar, Hold AF Play while PTT is pressed.

You may wish to have MON on at a comfortable level so you can hear when the 
bit of recording you want to tx comes to an end. I believe firmware to turn 
MON on autmatically in these circumstances (if not on already) is on Wayne's 
list.

73 to all

Geoff
G3UCK

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>
> I recorded a few seconds of another ham's signal using the DVR so he could
> hear what he sounds like on the air.  Is there some way I can transmit 
> that
> audio segment back out?  I couldn't find a way, or find anything in the
> archive.

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Re: [Elecraft] [HAM] Windows 7 and LoTW

[Jon K Hellan]

Roger Marrotte wrote:
> Dan,
> 
> I have Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit.  It is an upgraded system from Vista.
> I just uploaded my latest contacts to LOTW without any problem.  This is the
> first time I've tried it with Windows 7.  I use DX4WIN for my log.  I used a
> filter in DX4WIN to select only the latest entries.  I then created an ADIF
> file and was then able to create a tq8 file without any problem.  LOTW
> accepted it.  I haven't touched any LOTW stuff on my computer since the
> upgrade to Windows 7.
> 
> About a year ago I had trouble creating a tq8 file.  Come to find out my
> certificate had expired.  The error messages I was seeing didn't give any
> indication that the problem was with an expired certificate.  It's been long
> enough that I forget just what the messages said.
> 
> I'm not sure what is wrong for you, but I can say that LOTW seems to work
> fine on my Windows 7 computer.

Are we sure we're all talking about the same problem? There is a well known 
problem re
certificate expiry, and it has nothing to do with Windows 7. Existing 
certificates work
fine on the computer they're installed on, but it's impossible to export them 
to the export
format (tq8?) in order to use them on another computer, unless you resort to 
date trickery.
LotW support advised me to get a new certificate instead, this was painless.

Here's how I understand what happened: My own certificate was still valid, but 
the ARRL seems to
have let its own certificate expire, the one they use to sign our certificates.

As you see, nothing to do with Windows 7, but you *will* be bit by the bug when 
you try to move
certificates to a new computer, no matter what operating system it is running.

Obviously, there can also be Windows 7 specific issues. I have no experience 
with Windows 7.

73

Jon LA4RT, Trondheim, Norway
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