Re: [Elecraft] What Would it Take to Use P3 as O-Scope for Audio Modulation?

2011-10-21 Thread Tim Tucker
Sign me up for this feature too :)

On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 4:59 PM, CRAIG W BEHRENS craig...@msn.com wrote:


 Thanks, Andy -- I'll go check it out.

 72/73  DX, Craig W. Behrens -- NM4T
   Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:22:36 -0700
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  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What Would it Take to Use P3 as O-Scope for Audio
Modulation?
 
  Hi Craig,
 
  This was discussed previously and Eric agreed it was a good feature.
 Maybe
  he can confirm if it is on the list
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: PSK mixed mode

2011-10-21 Thread Ken Chandler
6 weeks ago I had a machine built to a high spec, I asked for Win XP Pro, but 
got a call saying Microsoft don't supply a stand alone xp pro  os software 
anymore.
When I picked up my new PC the builder said MS supplied an official OS software 
disc with XP Pro and with licensed Win7  software onboard.


Ken..G0ORH

Sent from my iPhone


 


On 21 Oct 2011, at 04:13, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:

 
 Don,
 
 I was specifically speaking to *new* installations ... try to find
 a fresh copy of Windows XP - particularly Windows XP Professional
 which is the only version worth having - for sale at any reputable
 dealer.  You certainly will not find it at New Egg or Tiger Direct.
 
 Second, I don't know where people are coming up with an end of
 support date in 2014 for Windows XP.  This Microsoft site
 http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/help/end-support says: 
 Support for Windows XP with Service Pack 2 (SP2) ended on July 13, 2010.*
 
 Considering that new Windows 7 systems with 2 GHz dual or quad core
 processors and 4 GB of RAM are regularly available for less than
 $500, I don't understand why anyone would spend more than half that
 for a 500 MB/1 GHz single core system with Windows XP ... it simply
 is not long term thinking.  The recycled XP box will have no support
 and gather dust while the higher performance system is still a
 mainstream performer.
 
 73,
 
... Joe, W4TV
 
 
 On 10/20/2011 10:04 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Joe,
 
 What you say is partially correct (it all depends on your definition of
 dead).  WinXP is still supported for security updates from Microsoft.
 Although, MS will no longer answer specific questions relating to WinXP,
 they are still providing support in the form of security updates.
 
 While I can agree that official support for a particular OS may be
 important, to some hams who want to run legacy applications, that is
 not possible with Win7 because it prevents applications from storing
 into their application folder - instead, insist that that data be stored
 into each users Documents and Settings folder.
 
 Which is better - it all depends on what you want to do.  If the author
 for the application that you wish to use is worth his salt, then the
 most recent download of that application will work on Win7 - and will
 likely run on WinXP (there may be exceptions).  But if the application
 author has not been keeping up with updates in the MS OS migration
 )legacy applications), those applications may work under WinXP and
 fail under Win7.
 
 So each user must make a choice of the OS to be used.  Make that choice
 based on your need for legacy applications - if you have no need for
 those, then Win7 is the clear winner.  I stick with WinXP for reasons
 unrelated to this discussion.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 10/20/2011 8:48 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
 
 
 If you are serious about doing digital modes, I would highly
 recommend a dedicated PC for the hamshack, and I would further
 recommend a desktop running Windows XP. Most all ham applications
 will run on XP, but some have trouble on Vista or Win7.
 
 I would strongly urge anyone considering a new computer installation
 to give up on Windows XP.  XP is a dead operating system - it has
 been out of support by Microsoft for more than a year.  Any developer
 worth his salt is no longer coding for XP and many current releases
 have features not supported on XP (if the software will even load
 and run).
 
 In spite of it's differences in audio handling, Windows 7 is much
 more stable and capable than Windows XP ... Vista is not worth
 having on any system.
 
 73,
 
... Joe, W4TV
 
 
 
 On 10/20/2011 8:11 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Jim,
 
 If you are serious about doing digital modes, I would highly recommend a
 dedicated PC for the hamshack, and I would further recommend a desktop
 running Windows XP.  Most all ham applications will run on XP, but some
 have trouble on Vista or Win7.  A desktop allows you to install real
 serial ports (which work better than USB adapters, and support multiple
 soundcards.
 
 I would suggest a re-furbished off-lease PC - they are often available
 with WinXP Pro and are priced in the $200 range (monitor not included).
 I particularly like the IBM desktops, but there are many others that
 will serve quite well - one source is www.tigerdirect.com.  For most ham
 applications a 1.5 GHz processor with 512MB (or 1 GB) of RAM and a 40 GB
 Hard drive is plenty of 'horsepower' - yes, there are some combinations
 of applications, like HRD with LP Bridge and PowerSDR that will bog that
 size computer down, but most ham applications will run with ease.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 10/20/2011 1:29 PM, Jim Miller wrote:
 I don't have a dedicated ham shack PC. My one laptop serves multiple
 purposes and not fiddling with the audio to ensure it is properly
 setup for
 PSK would be nice.
 
 Jim ab3cv
 
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[Elecraft] W1 Meter ( FOUND )

2011-10-21 Thread edward kacura
Good Morning,
 Yesterday I was looking for a W1 meter, and have found one ! So there 
is no further need . Thanks again to those who replyed.73 de Ed N7EDK
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Re: [Elecraft] Now General RF Issue WAS 160m loop experiment a big failure

2011-10-21 Thread Jim Brown
On 10/20/2011 6:21 PM, gold...@charter.net wrote:
 I apparently have a bigger problem with RF in the shack and it has
 nothing to do with the loop.

Hi Don,

Your email, and some of the solutions offered, reflect some common 
misconceptions about RFI, including an earth connection as a solution 
(it is NOT), and SWR as a cause (it is NOT).  The usefulness of noting 
changes from the original SWR values is that it tells you SOMETHING HAS 
CHANGED in the antenna, so that you know to go looking for something 
that is broken.

I strongly suggest that you download and study my tutorial on RFI for 
Hams. Nearly all problems blamed on RF in the shack are really caused 
by Pin One Problems in equipment where the RF is detected, and by 
antenna systems that put RF on the outside of the coax.

Study   http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf

One question to ask is, What ELSE, besides that coax, might have 
changed between before when everything worked, and now, when I have 
RFI.  Think about cable connections between equipment in the shack that 
might be acting as antennas to bring that RF that your antennas are 
radiating into the equipment.  And think about this -- your antennas 
SHOULD be putting a lot of RF in your shack -- they must do this if they 
are working as antennas. Any cables connected to your equipment will act 
as receiving antennas. When equipment has a Pin One Problem, the RF 
current those antennas (interconnect cables) receive will flow into your 
equipment.

Sometimes you can modify equipment to correct the Pin One Problem, but 
usually the better fix is simply make the cables a lousy RX antenna by 
adding a common mode choke to them. That's what you're doing when you 
wind some turns of the cable through a ferrite cores.

Study the tutorial to understand this. And when I say study I mean 
STUDY, don't just read it through once.

73, Jim Brown K9YC


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[Elecraft] K2-P3 Interface Project

2011-10-21 Thread Heinz Bärtschi
Eric, Wayne, Alan, K2 owners, PIC experts, et al.

As a very satisfied K2 line owner I did recently add the Z1B-K2 Buffer 
Amplifier and the high-performance P3.
The most important part missing now (and with me maybe hundreds/thousands? of 
other satisfied K2 owners) is a tiny PIC
based interface.

This K2-Interface should emulate/execute the P3-specific command set of the 
K3 and the P3-K3 communications
protocol, so that the P3 acts as a best possible integrated extension of the 
K2 (integration as far as
technically/economically reasonable).

If I understand aright the situation at Elecraft, they don't aim now/further on 
to allocate any resources to realize
this project. So could this definite project eventually be done by 
students/trainees (to intern at Elecraft or at a
college of technology)? Another solution could be to outsource this project to 
a well skilled/equiped PIC expert?
If such a solution should be sponsored, could a call for donations be published 
on this list server?

Contributions and proposals to realize this project (quickly...) would be very 
appreciated.

73,
Heinz HB9BCB



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[Elecraft] P3 as a TDR

2011-10-21 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
For those of us unlucky enough to have many runs of coax, each of
considerable length, often going through switch boxes,
having a TDR would be heaven in helping search out issues on the line.

Seems like a stretch to make a P3 into a TDR, but hey, I work in
healthcare, not ee, so what do I know?

Sign me up for this one!

de Doug KR2Q
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 as a TDR

2011-10-21 Thread Brendan Minish
Not sure about the P3 doing TDR service but I have had great results
with this circuit 
http://www.epanorama.net/circuits/tdr.html


On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 06:59 -0400, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote:
 For those of us unlucky enough to have many runs of coax, each of
 considerable length, often going through switch boxes,
 having a TDR would be heaven in helping search out issues on the line.
 
 Seems like a stretch to make a P3 into a TDR, but hey, I work in
 healthcare, not ee, so what do I know?
 
 Sign me up for this one!
 
 de Doug KR2Q
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: PSK mixed mode

2011-10-21 Thread Don Wilhelm
You are correct about WinXP SP2, but support continues for WinXP SP3.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/20/2011 11:13 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
 Second, I don't know where people are coming up with an end of
 support date in 2014 for Windows XP.  This Microsoft site
 http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/help/end-support says:
 Support for Windows XP with Service Pack 2 (SP2) ended on July 13, 2010.*


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Re: [Elecraft] Spot button QSYs K3

2011-10-21 Thread Robby.VY2SS
I spent some more time with this and find that if I tune to the low side
(tone lower than my pitch setting) and push spot it tunes the way it should
but if I turn the dial to hear a higher note than my 680 hz pitch setting
the VFO takes off down the band. It will sail right past S9 signals without
stopping.

I have 250 and 500 hz filters installed (both 8 pole) and my DSP width set
at 350 where I normally have it. 
I am using version 4.39 as previously mentioned. 
My sub RX is off. 
I don't like turning the P3 off because it's like going blind but doing so
has no effect on the problem.
Pressing TEXT DEC I have AUTO OFF and Threshold set to 1. Setting it to a
higher value does not give me a relialbe tuning bar.
VFO CRS is set to 0.1
VFO CTS is set to 400
VFO FST is set to 50
VFO IND is set to NO
VFO OFS is set to ON
Pitch is set to 680 but other settings have produced similar results.
I don't always use SPOT as the P3 allows me to tune just as accurately and I
am usually already looking at it. 
I did not notice this SPOT problem before my last F/W upgrade although it
could be a coinsidence.

-Robby
VY2SS

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Re: [Elecraft] 160m loop experiment a big failure

2011-10-21 Thread Steve Walter WA3A
I use only open-wire fed antennas here.  I have 3 feedlines that come right
into the shack to balanced tuners (Palstar BT1500A) and run the legal limit
with few RFI problems.  My house is in the middle of a large rhombic
(unterminated) antenna.  I don't have a station ground other than the AC
safety ground at my shack. 
My shack is in the basement but Ive had this same setup on the second floor
with good results.  IMO, an outside ground thats brought to the 2nd floor is
not needed and in fact will cause problems.  If I had any coax feeds I would
follow the SPG design for lightning protection but with open wire I have
disconnects where they enter the house and ALWAYS disconnect and ground them
(common ground to AC entrance) about 20' from the house.
A balanced tuner will help a lot.  
Open-wire feedline probably isnt the cause of your RFI.
It sounds like you may be on to something with your latest post.
73, Steve

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Re: [Elecraft] 160m loop experiment a big failure

2011-10-21 Thread Tony Estep
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Steve Walter WA3A w...@arrl.net wrote:

 IMO, an outside ground thats brought to the 2nd floor is
 not needed and in fact will cause problems

=
Don, I think that Steve's comment above may be on the right track. First
things first: cobble up a good star-system for tying everything together
with short fat wire or strapping to get all the chassis at the same RF
potential. Then kill off the common mode currents that run on the outside of
your coax; I've had great luck with RF isolators from
http://www.radioworks.com/ct-4.html  I have one between K3 and amp, and
another between my tuner and the balun that goes to my antenna system. I
have a simple counterpoise system from the second-floor window to the garage
roof, and that connects to the cold side of the balun. It is also where the
outside grounding system connects. If there are still some strays, you can
use snap-on ferrites, but I have found in a couple of different
installations that once the common-mode currents on the coax are dealt with,
there aren't any further RF problems. Steve also mentions that his shack is
in the middle of a rhombic antenna, which suggests that your loop
arrangement may work fine once you get the shack setup tamed.

73 and good luck,
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 dimensions?

2011-10-21 Thread Dave KK7SS
Wayne wrote:
 I usually carry 1 oz. of #26 antenna wire and a 1-oz.
 fishing weight to get the wire into a tree

This part of WA state is famous for having the highest tree-less 
mountains/trees in the USA  :( 
It was part of the sea-bed of the prehistoric lake that covered NW USA.
If there's a tree on it... someone planted it :) And there's not many of those 
open to the public. !

So... BYO poles !  
I have an ATX Walkabout and a very old MP1.

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Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

PS We also have lots of tumbleweed covered desert!
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[Elecraft] [K2] Amidon BN43-302 for K2 T2 - correction

2011-10-21 Thread Chip Stratton
I trusted my memory with my earlier post and got the part number wrong.
These are cheap, but Amidon has a $20 order minimum and I dont need 30 of
them. There were posts a few years back talking about using one of these
instead of the supplied toroid to improve coupling and power output on 15,
12, and 10 meters.  If anyone has a spare they would let go, I would be
obliged.

If anyone on the list has experience with this mod, please share!

Chip
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[Elecraft] K3 transport box ?

2011-10-21 Thread DK5EW
Hi all,
I guess many of you use the K3 as well portable. As I have only a /p QTH 
where I use my K3 I'm looking for a nice transport box or suitcase with 
K3 fitted foam or foamed material.
I'm interested what kind of transport box you use ?
best regards
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 dimensions?

2011-10-21 Thread Rick Dettinger
On this side of the State we have the opposite problem.  Too many  
trees.  Its often hard to get a line over one tree without getting a  
hang up in another.  This is true in the mountains as well as my back  
yard!

73,
Rick Dettinger   K7MW
Mount Vernon,  Wa.


On Oct 21, 2011, at 8:09 AM, Dave KK7SS wrote:

 Wayne wrote:
 I usually carry 1 oz. of #26 antenna wire and a 1-oz.
 fishing weight to get the wire into a tree

 This part of WA state is famous for having the highest tree-less  
 mountains/trees in the USA  :(
 It was part of the sea-bed of the prehistoric lake that covered NW  
 USA.
 If there's a tree on it... someone planted it :) And there's not  
 many of those open to the public. !

 So... BYO poles !
 I have an ATX Walkabout and a very old MP1.

 --
 Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

 PS We also have lots of tumbleweed covered desert!
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 transport box ?

2011-10-21 Thread Nick Garner
Hi Erwin,
I use a Pelican 1510 http://pelican.com/cases_detail.php?Case=1510. It's
made to be a carrry-on for travel with wheels and a retractable tow handle.
 I had to remove the handle from the K3 to get it to fit.  I don't miss that
handle though.

Here's a picture of it:
http://i.imgur.com/YbHHL.jpg

That's a Gamma Research power supply (
http://www.gammaresearch.net/hps-1a.html) on the left and I put everything
else (mic, key, cables, etc.) in the open area on the right. I was forced to
gate check it one time and it made it through with just a few scratches;
works great for me.

73,
Nick
N3WG


On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:45 AM, DK5EW dk...@mmmonvhf.de wrote:

 Hi all,
 I guess many of you use the K3 as well portable. As I have only a /p QTH
 where I use my K3 I'm looking for a nice transport box or suitcase with
 K3 fitted foam or foamed material.
 I'm interested what kind of transport box you use ?
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 dimensions?

2011-10-21 Thread Dyarnes
Hi All,

Shortly after the KX3 was announced and described, I started contemplating 
just what radios I own that it could replace.  Several radios I own were 
obvious candidates for replacement, but the FT-817 wasn't immediately that 
obvious.  That was due to the exceptionally small size of the FT-817, plus 
it's equally exceptional all band capabilities.  However, I did a rough 
calculation of volume for each radio, and I came up with approximately the 
same results that Wayne has posted (his calculations are surely more precise 
than mine).  The KX3 is, indeed, smaller!  It's perhaps a bit counter 
intuitive when you just look at the two, since the KX3 is wider and higher. 
The weight differential, which favors the KX3, is substantial.  Performance 
wise, I'm sure the KX3 will blow the FT-817 away.

Different people will have different priorities, so there's no right 
answer.  For me, the FT-817 will probably lose 95% of it's appeal once I 
get my hands on a KX3.  The concession will be access to VHF/UHF, but I find 
my HT to be more than adequate as a supplement, and what I use mostly 
anyway.  Besides, I've always felt the FT-817 was almost too small--the 
display is hard to read, and the controls are difficult to access.  I've 
never liked the menu system on most Yaesu's anyway.  Still, my FT-817 has 
been a very frequent companion for me.  It's been a relatively flawless 
performer for a good while, and well worth every nickel I spent on it.  It's 
no surprise to me that this has been one of the most successful pieces of 
ham gear ever produced.  Nevertheless, the KX3 looks to me like the perfect 
radio for QRP Field Day and similar activities.

I will be most interested to see how the HF Packer folks respond to the KX3. 
I'm not one myself, but they are a very innovative group when it comes to 
implementing small radios.  Since radios like the FT-817 and IC-703 are 
relative power hogs compared to the KX3, I suspect that will be another very 
significant factor.  It's always a lot of fun watching these folks do their 
thing, as was the case most recently at Pacificon.  Bonnie, KQ6XA, was 
putting out a very potent signal with her setup at Pacificon, and knocking 
off contacts one right after another.  She was getting better signal reports 
than I was using my 100 watt mobile setup!  Anyway, I can already visualize 
how HF Packers will fabricate a way of mounting a KX3 in front of them and 
having substantially enhanced operating ergonomics in the process.

As Terry, WA0ITP says, I love this stuff!  Even as a spectator!

Dave W7AQK






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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 dimensions?

2011-10-21 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Dave,

I did a presentation at the Pacificon HFpack forum titled HFpack Lite  
and the Elecraft KX3, in which I proposed a 5-pound (total) variation  
on HFpack. It is based on the KX3, a very lightweight antenna,  
external Li battery, and a hypothetical mic-on-steroids that could  
control the radio while it is in the backpack -- including turning it  
on/off. The talk was very well received, with lots of input on  
possible antennas, etc., from the audience. Bonnie was there, and  
later stopped by our booth, which I interpreted as a celebrity  
endorsement.

I'd be happy to send you my powerpoint presentation, although it is  
long on illustrations and short on explanations. You'll have to use a  
bit of imagination.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


 I will be most interested to see how the HF Packer folks respond to  
 the KX3.
 I'm not one myself, but they are a very innovative group when it  
 comes to
 implementing small radios.  Since radios like the FT-817 and IC-703  
 are
 relative power hogs compared to the KX3, I suspect that will be  
 another very
 significant factor.  It's always a lot of fun watching these folks  
 do their
 thing, as was the case most recently at Pacificon.  Bonnie, KQ6XA,  
 was
 putting out a very potent signal with her setup at Pacificon, and  
 knocking
 off contacts one right after another.  She was getting better signal  
 reports
 than I was using my 100 watt mobile setup!  Anyway, I can already  
 visualize
 how HF Packers will fabricate a way of mounting a KX3 in front of  
 them and
 having substantially enhanced operating ergonomics in the process.

 As Terry, WA0ITP says, I love this stuff!  Even as a spectator!

 Dave W7AQK


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 dimensions?

2011-10-21 Thread Buddy Brannan
By very lightweight antenna, do you mean the aforementioned 1oz of 26 gauge 
wire with the also aforementioned 1oz fishing weight? 

I'm really going to have to do something king on pedestrian mobile, or 
pedestrian portable. The loop I got (mentioned earlier) looks like it'll be 
great for portable, easy to set up if you're not going to move around a lot, 
but not so easy to walk with fully deployed. Well, probably not, anyway. I'll 
have to give it some thought, anyway. However. Remote control head with mic has 
some interesting possibilities, hasn't it? I suppose if the mic and serial 
jacks are mounted close enough together, or even mic, speaker, and serial 
jacks. I hadn't even thought of this. Wow….
--
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Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY



On Oct 21, 2011, at 12:19 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

 Hi Dave,
 
 I did a presentation at the Pacificon HFpack forum titled HFpack Lite  
 and the Elecraft KX3, in which I proposed a 5-pound (total) variation  
 on HFpack. It is based on the KX3, a very lightweight antenna,  
 external Li battery, and a hypothetical mic-on-steroids that could  
 control the radio while it is in the backpack -- including turning it  
 on/off. The talk was very well received, with lots of input on  
 possible antennas, etc., from the audience. Bonnie was there, and  
 later stopped by our booth, which I interpreted as a celebrity  
 endorsement.
 
 I'd be happy to send you my powerpoint presentation, although it is  
 long on illustrations and short on explanations. You'll have to use a  
 bit of imagination.
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
 
 I will be most interested to see how the HF Packer folks respond to  
 the KX3.
 I'm not one myself, but they are a very innovative group when it  
 comes to
 implementing small radios.  Since radios like the FT-817 and IC-703  
 are
 relative power hogs compared to the KX3, I suspect that will be  
 another very
 significant factor.  It's always a lot of fun watching these folks  
 do their
 thing, as was the case most recently at Pacificon.  Bonnie, KQ6XA,  
 was
 putting out a very potent signal with her setup at Pacificon, and  
 knocking
 off contacts one right after another.  She was getting better signal  
 reports
 than I was using my 100 watt mobile setup!  Anyway, I can already  
 visualize
 how HF Packers will fabricate a way of mounting a KX3 in front of  
 them and
 having substantially enhanced operating ergonomics in the process.
 
 As Terry, WA0ITP says, I love this stuff!  Even as a spectator!
 
 Dave W7AQK
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Re ham shack computers...

2011-10-21 Thread Bert Craig
Soundly seconded. Speaking as a fmr. IT professional, I have two machines;
One high-end Lenovo W520 ThinkPad running Win 7 Pro that stays home in the
shack and another older IBM R51 ThinkPad running XP that gets batted about
mobile. The R51 used to be my shack computer and its reliability and
performance was responsible for my purchasing the newer ThinkPad. Honestly,
there is very little, ham radio-wise, one can do on the newer and faster
duo/quad core units that cannot be done on a 1.6GHz or 1.7GHz Centrino
processor running Win XP SP3 and 2GB of DDR1 RAM. On the ThinkPad forums, it
is often said that $400 or less will buy you a much higher quality older
refurbished (or even sometimes a new old stock or NOS) ThinkPad rather than
the shiny newer faster units of dubious quality. In any event, best of luck
with whatever you choose. To all, take care es...

Vy 73 de Bert
WA2SI

-Original Message-
From: John Ragle [mailto:tpcj1...@crocker.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:02 PM
To: Don Wilhelm; elecraft
Subject: [Elecraft] Re ham shack computers...

I think your recommendation of XP (Pro) on a refurbished machine with half a
gig of core and a modest hard drive is right on target. The idea that XP is
dead is no more true than the idea that the PC is also dead.

John Ragle -- W1ZI 


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Re: [Elecraft] Re ham shack computers...

2011-10-21 Thread Phil Kane
On 10/20/2011 7:11 PM, Dave Perry wrote:

 I'm an XP fan, but it does look like XP is close to coming to an
 end. Mainstream support is for consumers.  Extended support is
 for commercial users.  I'm still getting updates and patches for
 my XP machines, but who knows how long that will last.

   The last bunch of patches appear to be security stuff for
   either the main OS, Windows Firewall, or for IE.

   For those of us who don't use the Windows Firewall or IE,
   would not the robust firewall/anti-virus program that I do use
   do the same thing?

--  73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 dimensions?

2011-10-21 Thread Wayne Burdick
Buddy Brannan wrote:

 By very lightweight antenna, do you mean the aforementioned 1oz of  
 26 gauge wire with the also aforementioned 1oz fishing weight?

No. I'm searching for the ultimate lightweight whip material. I'd like  
a 7' untuned whip that is self-supporting and straight in normal use,  
bends without being damaged if it hits a tree branch, weighs only a  
few ounces, and is nearly invisible.

Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 dimensions?

2011-10-21 Thread Buddy Brannan
 
On Oct 21, 2011, at 1:32 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
 
 No. I'm searching for the ultimate lightweight whip material. I'd like a 7' 
 untuned whip that is self-supporting and straight in normal use, bends 
 without being damaged if it hits a tree branch, weighs only a few ounces, and 
 is nearly invisible.

Huh. That could be interesting. Definitely sounds like fun times. :)
--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY





 Buddy Brannan wrote:
 
 By very lightweight antenna, do you mean the aforementioned 1oz of 26 
 gauge wire with the also aforementioned 1oz fishing weight?
 
 No. I'm searching for the ultimate lightweight whip material. I'd like a 7' 
 untuned whip that is self-supporting and straight in normal use, bends 
 without being damaged if it hits a tree branch, weighs only a few ounces, and 
 is nearly invisible.
 
 Wayne
 N6KR
 

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Re: [Elecraft] Re ham shack computers...

2011-10-21 Thread Jim Lowman
There is also the question of whether older ham applications will work 
correctly on the
newer OS, but then there's the question of whether the latest versions 
of ham software
will work on older XP-based machines.

With some SDRs, like the FlexRadio offerings, more CPU horsepower and 
memory are
a definite advantage, since we're talking about real-time processing.

73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 10/21/2011 10:11 AM, Bert Craig wrote:
 Soundly seconded. Speaking as a fmr. IT professional, I have two machines;
 One high-end Lenovo W520 ThinkPad running Win 7 Pro that stays home in the
 shack and another older IBM R51 ThinkPad running XP that gets batted about
 mobile. The R51 used to be my shack computer and its reliability and
 performance was responsible for my purchasing the newer ThinkPad. Honestly,
 there is very little, ham radio-wise, one can do on the newer and faster
 duo/quad core units that cannot be done on a 1.6GHz or 1.7GHz Centrino
 processor running Win XP SP3 and 2GB of DDR1 RAM. On the ThinkPad forums, it
 is often said that $400 or less will buy you a much higher quality older
 refurbished (or even sometimes a new old stock or NOS) ThinkPad rather than
 the shiny newer faster units of dubious quality. In any event, best of luck
 with whatever you choose. To all, take care es...

 Vy 73 de Bert
 WA2SI

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 dimensions?

2011-10-21 Thread Peter Wollan
The penultimate whip:  the two or three thinnest sections of a 16'
crappie pole ($10 from Cabella's).  It fails the invisibility
criterion, but otherwise seems to fit.

What do you do with it then?  drag a wire behind as a counterpoise?

Peter W0LLN

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:
  I'm searching for the ultimate lightweight whip material. I'd like
 a 7' untuned whip that is self-supporting and straight in normal use,
 bends without being damaged if it hits a tree branch, weighs only a
 few ounces, and is nearly invisible.
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Re: [Elecraft] 160m loop experiment a big failure

2011-10-21 Thread W8JH
I have an 80m horizontal loop which is above and encircles my house.  It is
fed with 600 ohm ladder line which I bring into the basement shack and use a
Palstar BT 1500 tuner.  With the tuner I use it on 6m-80m. The loop is only
broken where it enters the house to an ICE ground which is attached to a
ground rod and to the service ground.  I also have no RF problems even after
adding the KPA-500 to the mix.  K3, KPA-500, Palstar and computer all
grounded and tied to service ground.

The house is made of 9 thick exterior walls and 14 thick roof.  Both made
of a steel exterior frame and steel interior frame which is fully filled
with styrofoam.  Basically panels made with steel studs inside and out.  I
have no idea if that helps with RFI or not but it does help with utility
bills!

73,

Joe,  W8JH
K3 1713, KPA 132

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 transport box ?

2011-10-21 Thread Win Kriegl DK9IP/KH7CD
Hi Erwin,

I use a Leitz Vaultz Mobile Folder Box
http://direkt.jacob-computer.de/Multimedia_Divers_Leitz_VAULTZ_MOBILE_FOLDER_Box_Farbe_schwarz_silber_Abmessungen_366x322x178mm_%286716-00-95%29_artnr_136778.html?direkt=1ref=124

The box measures 366 x 322 x 178 mm and the K3 fits in just fine with 
some foam, manual, mic and PS cable.
http://dk9ip.de/pics/k3_transport_box.jpg

73, Win DK9IP



Am 21.10.2011 17:45, schrieb DK5EW:
 Hi all,
 I guess many of you use the K3 as well portable. As I have only a /p QTH
 where I use my K3 I'm looking for a nice transport box or suitcase with
 K3 fitted foam or foamed material.
 I'm interested what kind of transport box you use ?
 best regards
 Erwin/DK5EW



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 dimensions?

2011-10-21 Thread Wayne Burdick
Peter Wollan wrote:

 The penultimate whip:  the two or three thinnest sections of a 16'
 crappie pole ($10 from Cabella's).  It fails the invisibility
 criterion, but otherwise seems to fit.

 What do you do with it then?  drag a wire behind as a counterpoise?

Yes. This is SOP for HFpack. RG174 makes a good counterpoise, although  
I've had good luck with that same #26 wire, too.

I've had no trouble making 2000-mile-plus CW contacts on 20 m running  
2 W into a 4' Mizuho loaded whip, dragging a 13' counterpoise.

Wayne
N6KR


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[Elecraft] OT- Coax for ground wire?

2011-10-21 Thread W8JH
I have learned quite a bit about grounding from K9YC and others on the list
over the years and thank you all for making my shack a better place.

I have been tying together outside grounds where antennas enter the house
back to the service ground as part of my improvements and have run out of
heavy wire to do so.  I do have some old RG 8X or 213 around and have been
thinking about using that for grounding.  My questions are:
1.  Good idea/bad idea?
2.  Should I use just the shield or is there any downside to bonding the
shield and center conductor at each end?

Thanks in advance for any advice offered.

73,

Joe, W8JH
K3 1713, KPA 132

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[Elecraft] OT- Coax for ground wire?

2011-10-21 Thread W8JH
I have learned quite a bit about grounding from K9YC and others on the list
over the years and thank you all for making my shack a better place.

I have been tying together outside grounds where antennas enter the house
back to the service ground as part of my improvements and have run out of
heavy wire to do so.  I do have some old RG 8X or 213 around and have been
thinking about using that for grounding.  My questions are:
1.  Good idea/bad idea?
2.  Should I use just the shield or is there any downside to bonding the
shield and center conductor at each end?

Thanks in advance for any advice offered.

73,

Joe, W8JH
K3 1713, KPA 132

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[Elecraft] KX3

2011-10-21 Thread Lance Collister, W7GJ
Hi Wayne,

I already put in a vote for this with Eric, but wanted to ask if there 
would/could be 
some way to:


1. Add an external preamp for 6m, as is done with the K3.  If I am to use this 
as a 
portable radio for 6m EME DXpeditions, it will be imperative to be able to add 
a 
preamp in the receive line.

2. Control the PTT line on the KX3 from the computer's Serial Port RTS or CTS 
lines. 
  JT65A switches the radio into transmit by first raising RTS and CTS lines on 
the 
computer's serial port.  After about half a second the JT65A tones begin, 
leaving 
enough time to switch the antenna relays and turn on the amplifier without hot 
switching anything.  This works great in the K3, and I hope there will be the 
same 
logic in the KX3.

Please let me know if you are making, or have already made provisions for 
these, or 
if I am better off to look elsewhere for a more portable rig than the K3.

MNI TNX and VY 73, Lance
(K3 # 1540)
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Re: [Elecraft] Re ham shack computers...

2011-10-21 Thread Bob
I've had really good experiences going right to the source.   I've bought 
laptops, desktops and
monitors and in most cases it would be hard to tell from brand new.  Even on  
the slightly
blemished I've had to look some to find it.

https://www-304.ibm.com/shop/americas/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/default/CategoryDisplay?categoryId=2576396storeId=1catalogId=-840langId=-1
 
https://www-304.ibm.com/shop/americas/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/default/CategoryDisplay?categoryId=2576396storeId=1catalogId=-840langId=-1

Older models also can have the advantage of real serial ports.

73,
Bob
K2TK


On 10/21/2011 1:11 PM, Bert Craig wrote:
 Soundly seconded. Speaking as a fmr. IT professional, I have two machines;
 One high-end Lenovo W520 ThinkPad running Win 7 Pro that stays home in the
 shack and another older IBM R51 ThinkPad running XP that gets batted about
 mobile. The R51 used to be my shack computer and its reliability and
 performance was responsible for my purchasing the newer ThinkPad. Honestly,
 there is very little, ham radio-wise, one can do on the newer and faster
 duo/quad core units that cannot be done on a 1.6GHz or 1.7GHz Centrino
 processor running Win XP SP3 and 2GB of DDR1 RAM. On the ThinkPad forums, it
 is often said that $400 or less will buy you a much higher quality older
 refurbished (or even sometimes a new old stock or NOS) ThinkPad rather than
 the shiny newer faster units of dubious quality. In any event, best of luck
 with whatever you choose. To all, take care es...

 Vy 73 de Bert
 WA2SI

 -Original Message-
 From: John Ragle [mailto:tpcj1...@crocker.com]
 Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:02 PM
 To: Don Wilhelm; elecraft
 Subject: [Elecraft] Re ham shack computers...

 I think your recommendation of XP (Pro) on a refurbished machine with half a
 gig of core and a modest hard drive is right on target. The idea that XP is
 dead is no more true than the idea that the PC is also dead.

 John Ragle -- W1ZI

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3

2011-10-21 Thread Wayne Burdick

Hi Lance,

 ...wanted to ask if there would/could be some way to:

 1. Add an external preamp for 6m, as is done with the K3.  If I am  
 to use this as a portable radio for 6m EME DXpeditions, it will be  
 imperative to be able to add a preamp in the receive line.

We can't tap into the KX3's internal RX path directly. However, a  
preamp could be inserted externally in conjunction with a T/R switch.  
We have enough general-purpose outputs on the KX3 to control such a  
unit. Also, we're looking into the possibility of integrating a 6- 
meter LNA into the BPF array to obtain a very low 6-m NF.


 2. Control the PTT line on the KX3 from the computer's Serial Port  
 RTS or CTS lines.  JT65A switches the radio into transmit by first  
 raising RTS and CTS lines on the computer's serial port.  After  
 about half a second the JT65A tones begin, leaving enough time to  
 switch the antenna relays and turn on the amplifier without hot  
 switching anything.  This works great in the K3, and I hope there  
 will be the same logic in the KX3.

You'd have to split the RTS or CTS line out from the computer's RS232  
connector and route it to the mic jack's PTT line. If there were  
enough demand for such a cable, we might offer one as an option.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



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Re: [Elecraft] K2-P3 Interface Project

2011-10-21 Thread Alan Bloom
Hi Heinz,

K2 support for the P3 has been on my list for a long time.  I have a K2
with RS-232 interface option and the Z1 kit which I still need to
install.  There are a couple other features ahead of it in the list, but
I would really like to get to it.  When it happens, it will only require
a firmware upgrade to the P3.

The K3 has several P3-specific commands that don't exist in the K2.
That means in particular that fixed-tune mode is not possible with the
K2.  Also the K3 uses a special protocol to talk to the P3 which is not
implemented in the K2.  However, I think I should be able to get
reasonably-good integration between the two so that you can read out the
proper frequency on the P3 display, click-to-QSY etc.

73,

Alan N1AL

On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 12:24 +0200, Heinz Bärtschi wrote:
 Eric, Wayne, Alan, K2 owners, PIC experts, et al.
 
 As a very satisfied K2 line owner I did recently add the Z1B-K2 Buffer 
 Amplifier and the high-performance P3.
 The most important part missing now (and with me maybe hundreds/thousands? of 
 other satisfied K2 owners) is a tiny PIC
 based interface.
 
 This K2-Interface should emulate/execute the P3-specific command set of the 
 K3 and the P3-K3 communications
 protocol, so that the P3 acts as a best possible integrated extension of the 
 K2 (integration as far as
 technically/economically reasonable).
 
 If I understand aright the situation at Elecraft, they don't aim now/further 
 on to allocate any resources to realize
 this project. So could this definite project eventually be done by 
 students/trainees (to intern at Elecraft or at a
 college of technology)? Another solution could be to outsource this project 
 to a well skilled/equiped PIC expert?
 If such a solution should be sponsored, could a call for donations be 
 published on this list server?
 
 Contributions and proposals to realize this project (quickly...) would be 
 very appreciated.
 
 73,
 Heinz HB9BCB
 
 
 
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[Elecraft] K3: PSK mixed mode

2011-10-21 Thread Bill Mader

You can find suitable XP-Pro machinces for well under $100 at PacificGeeks.com. 
 I purchased a refurbished HP PC with one serical and one parallel plus a 
handful of USB ports for $59.95 recently.   I'm a broadcast engineer 
(electronics and IT) for a nation-wide company where we still use XP on older 
machines and purchase new ones with Windows 7.  XP is not yet dead and will 
continue to be viable even after Microsoft stops supporting it.  However, when 
one can't find up-to-date antivirus and firewall products for XP I would stop 
using it on-line.  Off-line use will remain safe. I have three computers with 
Vista and have had no problems with any of them.  One is my TV DVR, gets used 
for browsing, and has been 100% reliable for over three years. I also use 
Windows 7 which is no more or no less stable than Windows XP.  Some ham radio 
programs are less stable on Windows 7 than Windows XP, even with an appropriate 
installation to avoid the more current security issues (UAC).  XP 
 support (Windows Update) will continue through 2014 for all users.  If one 
Googles Windows XP support, the first link is to Microsoft's page where they 
try to sell you Windows 7.  If I were they, I would too! 73, Bill, K8TE   I 
would strongly urge anyone considering a new computer installation
  to give up on Windows XP.  XP is a dead operating system - it has
  been out of support by Microsoft for more than a year.  Any developer
  worth his salt is no longer coding for XP and many current releases
  have features not supported on XP (if the software will even load
  and run).
 
  In spite of it's differences in audio handling, Windows 7 is much
  more stable and capable than Windows XP ... Vista is not worth
  having on any system.
 
  73,
 
 ... Joe, W4TV
 
 This is from Microsoft's website:
 
 Desktop operating systems  Windows XP
  End of mainstream support April 14, 2009
  End of extended supportApril 8, 2014
  
  
  I'm an XP fan, but it does look like XP is close to coming to an end. 
  Mainstream support is for consumers.  Extended support is for commercial 
  users.  I'm still getting updates and patches for my XP machines, but who 
  knows how long that will last.
  
  Dave, N4QS
  
  
  
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Re: [Elecraft] OT- Coax for ground wire?

2011-10-21 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
For RF, you want the lowest possible inductance in the ground lead since
inductance has reactance and reactance is what you do *not* want. 

For a given length, a bigger conductor has lower inductance. I don't know
why full coax would not be as good as just the shield, although it is a lot
more bulky. The center conductor is a relatively small wire, so it would not
carry nearly as much of the RF current as the outer braid due to its
reactance. I'd not expect any benefit from connecting it. There might be a
slight advantage to having the braid round (on the coax) rather than flat.
I've not investigated that. 

FWIW, in my installation I run a 100+ foot inverted L that terminates at a
shelf in the shack above the rig where I have a large, manual, L-net tuner.
All the equipment is tied together and then to ground. I use a sheet of
copper mounted on the wall (with thumbtacks) behind the rig and tuner that
runs to where the outside ground comes through the wall. The equipment all
connects to this copper sheet through short wire pig-tails. 

Got the copper sheet for a few bucks from a hobby store. It's about twice
the thickness of heavy-duty aluminum foil and came in a roll several feet
long.

73,

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W8JH
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:05 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] OT- Coax for ground wire?

I have learned quite a bit about grounding from K9YC and others on the list
over the years and thank you all for making my shack a better place.

I have been tying together outside grounds where antennas enter the house
back to the service ground as part of my improvements and have run out of
heavy wire to do so.  I do have some old RG 8X or 213 around and have been
thinking about using that for grounding.  My questions are:
1.  Good idea/bad idea?
2.  Should I use just the shield or is there any downside to bonding the
shield and center conductor at each end?

Thanks in advance for any advice offered.

73,

Joe, W8JH
K3 1713, KPA 132

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Re: [Elecraft] Now General RF Issue WAS 160m loop experiment a big failure

2011-10-21 Thread Fred Jensen
On 10/20/2011 8:24 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
 I wholeheartedly endorse Don's comments.

I do too.

 A good practice with any antenna installation is to check the SWR on each
 band for which it is used, and make a note of that.

While in Comm Officers' School at Keesler AFB many years ago, I was 
active in the radio club [K5TYP].  We had a tribander up about 40 feet 
or so that never worked.  We borrowed some test equipment and measured 
the impedance on 20, 15, and 10, and it was almost exactly 50 ohms [and 
the same on all bands which should have been a clue].  After several 
weekends of work including several trips up the tower, one of the guys 
said, Let's do this one more time, and cranked the frequency of the 
impedance bridge down to 20m again.  Nothing changed.  The bridge saw 50 
ohms at 14 MHz, 15 MHz, 18 MHz [which wasn't a ham band then], ... 
everywhere else, including 80m.  We finally figured out we had the 
longest 50 ohm dummy load in Harrison County.

I'm not real clear on how faulty coax could cause his RFI symptoms, 
unless maybe none of the power is actually getting to the antenna and is 
backing up [a technical plumbing term] into the shack.  That it 
started with the propane tank episode is certainly suspicious.  OT's may 
remember the old adage, Note carefully from which corner of the chassis 
the smoke comes, that's where you want to begin troubleshooting.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
- www.cqp.org
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Re: [Elecraft] K2-P3 Interface Project

2011-10-21 Thread Heinz Bärtschi
Hi Alan,

Exactly! Please let it happen soon!

To speedup the project, I could provide the built K2 IF Buffer Interface with 
cables/connectors (including the noise blanker if desired). A picture of my 
installation will be sent to your direct e-mail address.
Ok?

73,
Heinz  HB9BCB


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Alan Bloom [mailto:n...@sonic.net]
Gesendet: Freitag, 21. Oktober 2011 21:04
An: Heinz Bärtschi
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] K2-P3 Interface Project


Hi Heinz,

K2 support for the P3 has been on my list for a long time.  I have a K2 with 
RS-232 interface option and the Z1 kit which I still need to install.  
There are a couple other features ahead of it in the list, but I would really 
like to get to it.  When it happens, it will only require a firmware upgrade to 
the P3.

The K3 has several P3-specific commands that don't exist in the K2. That means 
in particular that fixed-tune mode is not possible with the K2.  Also the K3 
uses a special protocol to talk to the P3 which is not implemented in the K2.  
However, I think I should be able to get reasonably-good integration between 
the two so that you can read out the proper frequency on the P3 display, 
click-to-QSY etc.

73,

Alan N1AL


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Re: [Elecraft] OT- Coax for ground wire?

2011-10-21 Thread Jim Brown
On 10/21/2011 12:25 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
 For RF, you want the lowest possible inductance in the ground lead since
 inductance has reactance and reactance is what you do*not*  want.

Yes, BUT -- the principal function of the EARTH connection is lightning 
safety.  With any antenna that loads like a long wire and ends in the 
shack,  the ground wire is part of the antenna unless it has been 
decoupled from the ground wire by a lot of radials that end in the 
shack.  Further, the other end of that wire goes to lossy earth, and the 
equivalent resistance of the earth connection reduces the power that 
gets radiated -- UNLESS there are radials.

Bottom line -- low inductance is important for lightning safety, but 
it's primary effect on behavior of a long wire antenna (including 
inverted L, Tee vertical) is to lengthen the antenna a bit and add 
loss.  And yes, the braid of coax makes a nice ground conductor.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Now General RF Issue WAS 160m loop experiment a big failure

2011-10-21 Thread Ian White GM3SEK

As Jim Brown says: if all these problems came on suddenly, focus on what 
parts of the installation have CHANGED.

You may well have identified one:


Right now I am thinking that I have a bad coax line outside of the 
house.  The reason for this is that I had a new propane tank installed 
and they needed to back the truck up and had to drive over the buried 
coax.  I did put boards down to spread out the load and protect the 
lawn and also the coax.  However the problem has started since this 
incident.

I pulled the coax out of the ground and it has bend marks at the edges 
where the boards were which to means that it was deformed and maybe it 
is now crushed.


Is there any chance that the shield has been pulled apart, and is now 
completely open-circuit? A broken shield connection can be a major cause 
of RFI, as RF currents can appear in very odd places in their search for 
a new return path.

How would a TDR respond to a broken shield? Installation-dependent, I 
suppose...


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http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek
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Re: [Elecraft] Now General RF Issue WAS 160m loop experiment a big failure

2011-10-21 Thread Mel Farrer
Take a antenna analyzer and put it at the end of the coax.  Regardless of the 
reading, run your hand up and down the outside of the coax.  If the shield is 
open or bad, the readings will go all over the place.  


Mel




From: Ian White GM3SEK gm3...@ifwtech.co.uk
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Now General RF Issue WAS 160m loop experiment a big 
failure


As Jim Brown says: if all these problems came on suddenly, focus on what 
parts of the installation have CHANGED.

You may well have identified one:


Right now I am thinking that I have a bad coax line outside of the 
house.  The reason for this is that I had a new propane tank installed 
and they needed to back the truck up and had to drive over the buried 
coax.  I did put boards down to spread out the load and protect the 
lawn and also the coax.  However the problem has started since this 
incident.

I pulled the coax out of the ground and it has bend marks at the edges 
where the boards were which to means that it was deformed and maybe it 
is now crushed.


Is there any chance that the shield has been pulled apart, and is now 
completely open-circuit? A broken shield connection can be a major cause 
of RFI, as RF currents can appear in very odd places in their search for 
a new return path.

How would a TDR respond to a broken shield? Installation-dependent, I 
suppose...


-- 

73 from Ian GM3SEK
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek
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Re: [Elecraft] Now General RF Issue WAS 160m loop experiment a big failure

2011-10-21 Thread Jim Brown
On 10/21/2011 1:12 PM, Ian White GM3SEK wrote:
 Is there any chance that the shield has been pulled apart, and is now
 completely open-circuit? A broken shield connection can be a major cause
 of RFI, as RF currents can appear in very odd places in their search for
 a new return path.

I also like the broken shield hypothesis, Ian.


 How would a TDR respond to a broken shield? Installation-dependent, I
 suppose..

It should.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Now General RF Issue WAS 160m loop experiment a big failure

2011-10-21 Thread Wayne Burdick
Is this a helpful list, or what?

Wayne


On Oct 21, 2011, at 1:21 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

 On 10/21/2011 1:12 PM, Ian White GM3SEK wrote:
 Is there any chance that the shield has been pulled apart, and is now
 completely open-circuit? A broken shield connection can be a major  
 cause
 of RFI, as RF currents can appear in very odd places in their  
 search for
 a new return path.

 I also like the broken shield hypothesis, Ian.


 How would a TDR respond to a broken shield? Installation- 
 dependent, I
 suppose..

 It should.

 73, Jim K9YC



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Re: [Elecraft] Re ham shack computers...[END of Thread]

2011-10-21 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
Let's let this topic rest. We are over the posting limit for the list on a 
single topic in a short period.

73,
Eric
List Moderator
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: PSK mixed mode [END of Thread]

2011-10-21 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
This thread and related computer OS threads have been closed.

73,
Eric
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On Oct 21, 2011, at 12:13 PM, Bill Mader bill_ma...@hotmail.com wrote:

 
 You can find suitable XP-Pro machinces for well under $100 at 
 PacificGeeks.com.  I purchased a refurbished HP PC with one serical and one 
 parallel plus a handful of USB ports for $59.95 recently.   I'm a broadcast 
 engineer (electronics and IT) for a nation-wide company where we still use XP 
 on older machines and purchase new ones with Windows 7.  XP is not yet dead 
 and will continue to be viable even after Microsoft stops supporting it.  
 However, when one can't find up-to-date antivirus and firewall products for 
 XP I would stop using it on-line.  Off-line use will remain safe. I have 
 three computers with Vista and have had no problems with any of them.  One is 
 my TV DVR, gets used for browsing, and has been 100% reliable for over three 
 years. I also use Windows 7 which is no more or no less stable than Windows 
 XP.  Some ham radio programs are less stable on Windows 7 than Windows XP, 
 even with an appropriate installation to avoid the more current security 
 issues (UAC).  X
 P 
 support (Windows Update) will continue through 2014 for all users.  If one 
 Googles Windows XP support, the first link is to Microsoft's page where they 
 try to sell you Windows 7.  If I were they, I would too! 73, Bill, K8TE   I 
 would strongly urge anyone considering a new computer installation
 to give up on Windows XP.  XP is a dead operating system - it has
 been out of support by Microsoft for more than a year.  Any developer
 worth his salt is no longer coding for XP and many current releases
 have features not supported on XP (if the software will even load
 and run).
 
 In spite of it's differences in audio handling, Windows 7 is much
 more stable and capable than Windows XP ... Vista is not worth
 having on any system.
 
 73,
 
   ... Joe, W4TV
 
 This is from Microsoft's website:
 
 Desktop operating systems  Windows XP
 End of mainstream support April 14, 2009
 End of extended supportApril 8, 2014
 
 
 I'm an XP fan, but it does look like XP is close to coming to an end. 
 Mainstream support is for consumers.  Extended support is for commercial 
 users.  I'm still getting updates and patches for my XP machines, but who 
 knows how long that will last.
 
 Dave, N4QS
 
 
 
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[Elecraft] N2CQ QRP Contest Calendar: Oct 22 - Nov 21, 2011

2011-10-21 Thread Ken Newman
~
N2CQ QRP CONTEST CALENDAR  
October 22 to November 21, 2011 
~
STEW PERRY TOPBAND DISTANCE CHALLENGE WARMUP - QRP CATEGORY
Oct 22, 1500z to Oct 23, 1500z
Rules: http://jzap.com/k7rat/stew.rules.txt
~
UBA Foxhunt (CW/PSK31/SSB) *** QRP Contest ***
Oct 24, 1930z to 2030z
Rules: http://www.on5ex.be/foxhunt/foxhunt.html
~
SKCC Sprint (Straight Key CW)  ... QRP Awards
Oct 26, z to 0200z
Rules: http://www.skccgroup.com/sprint/sks/
~
CWops Mini-CWT Test (CW) ... QRP Category
Oct 26, 1300z to 1400z and
Oct 26, 1900z to 2000z and
Oct 27, 0300z to 0400z
Rules: http://www.cwops.org/onair.html
~
Zombie Shuffle (CW) *** QRP CONTEST ***
Oct 28, Local Sundown to Local Midnight (Any 4 hour period)
Rules: http://www.zianet.com/QRP/
~
CQ WW DX Contest (SSB)  ... QRP Category
Oct 29, z to Oct 30, 2359z
Rules: http://www.cqww.com/rules.php
~
Ten-Ten Fall QSO Party (Digital) ... QRP Category
Oct 29, 0001z to Oct 30, 2359z
Rules: http://www.ten-ten.org/Forms/QSOPartyRules_082710.pdf
~
UBA Foxhunt (CW/PSK31/SSB) *** QRP Contest ***
Oct 31, 1930z to 2030z
Rules: http://www.on5ex.be/foxhunt/foxhunt.html
~
HA-QRP Contest (CW - 80 Meters) *** QRP Contest***
Nov 1, z to Nov 7, 2400z
Rules: http://www.radiovilag.hu/haqrp2.htm
~
ARRL Sweepstakes (CW) ... QRP Category 
Nov 5, 2100z to Nov 7, 0259z
Rules: http://www.arrl.org/sweepstakes
~
NA Collegiate ARC Championship (CW) .. QRP Category
Nov 5, 2100z to Nov 7, 0259z
Rules: http://www.collegiatechampionship.org/rules/
~
Daylight Savings Time Ends Nov 6, 0200 AM 
~
High Speed Club Contest (CW) ... QRP Category
Nov 6, 0900z to 1100z and 1500z to 1700z
Rules: http://www.highspeedclub.org/
~
UBA Foxhunt (CW/PSK31/SSB) *** QRP Contest ***
Nov 7, 1930z to 2030z
Rules: http://www.on5ex.be/foxhunt/foxhunt.html
~
Adventure Radio Spartan Sprint (CW) *** QRP Event! ***
Nov 8, 0100z to 0300z (First Monday 9 PM EDT)
Rules: 
http://adventure-radio.org/wiki/index.php?title=Spartan_Sprints
~
80 METER FOXHUNT (CW) *** QRP Contest ***
Nov 9, 0200z to 0329z
Info: http://www.qrpfoxhunt.org/
~
CWops Mini-CWT Test (CW) ... QRP Category
Nov 9, 1300z to 1400z and
Nov 9, 1900z to 2000z and
Nov 10, 0300z to 0400z
Rules: http://www.cwops.org/onair.html
~
40 METER FOXHUNT (CW) *** QRP Contest ***
Nov 11, 0200z to 0329z
Info: http://www.qrpfoxhunt.org/
~
WAE RTTY Contest ... 100W Category
Nov 12, z to Nov 13, 2359z
Rules: http://www.darc.de/referate/dx/contest/waedc/en/rules/
~
Japan International DX Contest (phone)... 100w category
Nov 12, 0700z to Nov 13, 1300z
Rules: http://jidx.org/jidxrule-e.html
~
OK/OM DX Contest (CW) ... QRP Category!
Nov 12, 1200z to Nov 13, 1200z 
Rules: http://okomdx.crk.cz/g.html
~
CWops Mini-CWT Test (CW) ... QRP Category
Nov 12, 1300z to 1400z and
Nov 12, 1900z to 2000z and
Nov 13, 0300z to 0400z
Rules: http://www.cwops.org/onair.html
~
Kentucky QSO Party (CW/Ph) 
Nov 12, 1400z to Nov 13, 0200z
Rules: http://www.wkdxa.com
~
SKCC Weekend Sprintathon (Straight Key CW) ... QRP Category
Nov 13, z to 2359z
Rules: http://www.skccgroup.com/sprint/wes/index-wes.html
~
NAQCC-EU Monthly Sprint (CW) *** QRP Contest ***
Nov 14, 1800z to 2000z
Rules: http://naqcc-eu.org/sprints

UBA Foxhunt (CW/PSK31/SSB) *** QRP Contest ***
Nov 14, 1930z to 2030z
Rules: http://www.on5ex.be/foxhunt/foxhunt.html
~
80 METER FOXHUNT (CW) *** QRP 

Re: [Elecraft] OT- Coax for ground wire?

2011-10-21 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I think Jim accidentally reversed his meaning about ground lead inductance.
Lowering the inductance of the ground connection does *not* lengthen the
effective radiator or add loss.  Allowing the ground system to be part of
the radiator by letting the ground lead have significant inductance and so
add to the overall length of the antenna system may well increase losses and
promote coupling to house wiring, etc. That's good reason to use a
low-inductance ground connection. 

When running an end-fed wire as I do, it's useful to keep the rig chassis at
a low RF potential. If the rig is allowed to have significant RF voltage on
it (as when the feed point of the wire is near a voltage loop), the rig adds
my body to the active antenna, changing the tuning. 

Also, significant RF voltage floating around the DC supply chassis (because
it's connected to the rig) can do weird things to the voltage regulation if
a junction in the regulator starts rectifying the RF. 

In my case the copper sheet terminates in an RF ground system that enters
through the wall a few feet from the operating position, so extending the
sheet to where it enters ensures that the entire copper sheet stays at a
very low RF potential at all times, and having the sheet extend behind the
equipment allows very short ground connections to each chassis, keeping
everything at the same low RF potential.

73, 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
On 10/21/2011 12:25 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
 For RF, you want the lowest possible inductance in the ground lead since
 inductance has reactance and reactance is what you do*not*  want.

Yes, BUT -- the principal function of the EARTH connection is lightning 
safety.  With any antenna that loads like a long wire and ends in the 
shack,  the ground wire is part of the antenna unless it has been 
decoupled from the ground wire by a lot of radials that end in the 
shack.  Further, the other end of that wire goes to lossy earth, and the 
equivalent resistance of the earth connection reduces the power that 
gets radiated -- UNLESS there are radials.

Bottom line -- low inductance is important for lightning safety, but 
it's primary effect on behavior of a long wire antenna (including 
inverted L, Tee vertical) is to lengthen the antenna a bit and add 
loss.  And yes, the braid of coax makes a nice ground conductor.

73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] OT- Coax for ground wire?

2011-10-21 Thread Mel Farrer
And that my friends is why the broadcast stations have extended amounts of 
sheet copper tying everything to ground that should be.  IMHO.

Mel, K6KBE




From: Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT- Coax for ground wire?

I think Jim accidentally reversed his meaning about ground lead inductance.
Lowering the inductance of the ground connection does *not* lengthen the
effective radiator or add loss.  Allowing the ground system to be part of
the radiator by letting the ground lead have significant inductance and so
add to the overall length of the antenna system may well increase losses and
promote coupling to house wiring, etc. That's good reason to use a
low-inductance ground connection. 

When running an end-fed wire as I do, it's useful to keep the rig chassis at
a low RF potential. If the rig is allowed to have significant RF voltage on
it (as when the feed point of the wire is near a voltage loop), the rig adds
my body to the active antenna, changing the tuning. 

Also, significant RF voltage floating around the DC supply chassis (because
it's connected to the rig) can do weird things to the voltage regulation if
a junction in the regulator starts rectifying the RF. 

In my case the copper sheet terminates in an RF ground system that enters
through the wall a few feet from the operating position, so extending the
sheet to where it enters ensures that the entire copper sheet stays at a
very low RF potential at all times, and having the sheet extend behind the
equipment allows very short ground connections to each chassis, keeping
everything at the same low RF potential.

73, 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
On 10/21/2011 12:25 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
 For RF, you want the lowest possible inductance in the ground lead since
 inductance has reactance and reactance is what you do*not*  want.

Yes, BUT -- the principal function of the EARTH connection is lightning 
safety.  With any antenna that loads like a long wire and ends in the 
shack,  the ground wire is part of the antenna unless it has been 
decoupled from the ground wire by a lot of radials that end in the 
shack.  Further, the other end of that wire goes to lossy earth, and the 
equivalent resistance of the earth connection reduces the power that 
gets radiated -- UNLESS there are radials.

Bottom line -- low inductance is important for lightning safety, but 
it's primary effect on behavior of a long wire antenna (including 
inverted L, Tee vertical) is to lengthen the antenna a bit and add 
loss.  And yes, the braid of coax makes a nice ground conductor.

73, Jim K9YC

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[Elecraft] P3

2011-10-21 Thread Robert Garceau
I saw a P3 in action today. I think I got to have one.

 

I have the KPA500 and K3.

The RS232 on the K3 is hooked up to the Microham KII.

I assume I need to get a Y cable to get the P3 and MKII into the RS232 at
the K3?

 

I must say I was impressed with how that little box works.

 

73

 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3

2011-10-21 Thread Lyle Johnson
The MKII will connect to the P3 and a daisy-chain cable, included with 
the P3, will go between the P3 and the K3.

73,

Lyle KK7P

 I assume I need to get a Y cable to get the P3 and MKII into the RS232 at
 the K3?

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Re: [Elecraft] OT- Coax for ground wire?

2011-10-21 Thread Rose
Most sheet metal shops can sheer copper sheets into almost any width one
would want, and the cost is reasonable.  I had about half of a 4 x 8 sheet
sut into 1 and 2 inch x 4 foot strips several years ago and that's used
throughout my station's grounding system.
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Re: [Elecraft] OT- Coax for ground wire?

2011-10-21 Thread Don Wilhelm
Copper strap is better for lightning protection grounding than braid 
(more surface area).
DX Engineering and GeorgiaCopper are two sources that I know about, 
there are certainly others (use Google).

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/21/2011 8:25 PM, Rose wrote:
 Most sheet metal shops can sheer copper sheets into almost any width one
 would want, and the cost is reasonable.  I had about half of a 4 x 8 sheet
 sut into 1 and 2 inch x 4 foot strips several years ago and that's used
 throughout my station's grounding system.

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[Elecraft] North American SOTA Day - 10/22/2011

2011-10-21 Thread Phillip Shepard
Tomorrow is North America's Summits on the Air (SOTA) Day.  There will be a
much larger than usual amount of SOTA activity tomorrow in the US and
Canada.  Over 30 different summit activations are already publicized, and
more are being added hourly.  These stations will be set up on prominent
mountain tops.  The hams hiked there and set up portable stations, and a lot
of Elecraft rigs will be heard.  I use a K2 and wire antennas.  The
activations will start around 1400z and run throughout the day.  The SOTA
Watch site, www.sotawatch.org, lists the activations - The Alerts page
lists those planned, and the Spots page shows the spots for those already
on the air.  More information about SOTA can be found at www.sota.org.uk.

Chasing summits is an informal and very enjoyable ham radio activity.  Why
not join in by working some summits tomorrow!  As the SOTA Watch site shows,
the activations are often centered around QRP frequencies.  There will be
activations from HF through VHF/UHF, with FM, SSB and CW operation.  Keep
track of the stations that you work - you can log them into the SOTA
database and work toward certificates and trophies.  It's fun - give it a
try!

See you from the summits.

73,

Phil, NS7P

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[Elecraft] OT- Coax for ground wire?

2011-10-21 Thread Ken G Kopp
Most sheet metal shops can sheer copper sheets into almost any width one
would want, and the cost is reasonable.  I had about half of a 4 x 8 sheet
sut into 1 and 2 inch x 4 foot strips several years ago and that's used
throughout my station's grounding system.

73! Ken - K0PP
elecraftcov...@gmail.com
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[Elecraft] K3 Transmitter Gain Cal Failure at 1mW with KXV3a

2011-10-21 Thread N2ZDB
Hello K3 Support,
 
I installed the KXV3a tonight into my K3 and when I went to do the 
Gain Calibration it failed on 6 Meters as it was unable to get the required 
 output.
 
Any idea why this output could be low on this band (I believe it only  
reached an 8 out of the expected 10)?
 
Thank you,
 
73's Michael
n2zdb
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Transmitter Gain Cal Failure at 1mW with KXV3a

2011-10-21 Thread Shane DeSeranno
If you have an external wattmeter (a lot of antenna tuners/dummy loads 
should have this), then go through the wattmeter calibrations to ensure your 
internal wattmeter is reading correctly.

-Original Message- 
From: n2...@aol.com
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 7:54 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Transmitter Gain Cal Failure at 1mW with KXV3a

Hello K3 Support,

I installed the KXV3a tonight into my K3 and when I went to do the
Gain Calibration it failed on 6 Meters as it was unable to get the required
output.

Any idea why this output could be low on this band (I believe it only
reached an 8 out of the expected 10)?

Thank you,

73's Michael
n2zdb



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Re: [Elecraft] OT- Coax for ground wire?

2011-10-21 Thread Jim Brown
On 10/21/2011 4:07 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
 I think Jim accidentally reversed his meaning about ground lead inductance.
 Lowering the inductance of the ground connection does*not*  lengthen the
 effective radiator or add loss.

No, I didn't accidently reverse my meaning. You missed my point.  ANY 
length of lead in the ground wire adds inductance.  The difference in 
inductance between a #22 wire and RG8 isn't enough to matter.

Repeat after me (or write it 100 times on the blackboard).  A 
connection to earth has NOTHING to do with RF ground, nor does it cure 
RFI issues, nor does it make an antenna work better. What DOES matter (a 
lot) is the connection of a cable shield to the shielding enclosure of 
equipment.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3]_[KRC2]_Is_there_a_KRC3_in_the_w orks?

2011-10-21 Thread Gary K9GS
Anyone??

On 10/19/2011 9:58 PM, Gary K9GS wrote:
 So, if I was going to purchase a monitor, say 23-25 diagonal, what
 should I look for besides the 1920 X 1080P resolution?

 Pixel response time?  5ms seems to be the norm.
 I assume a 16:9 aspect ratio?
 Does contrast ratio make a difference?
 I assume I'll want one with a VGA interface, not DVI or HDMI?



 On 10/17/2011 1:01 AM, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft wrote:
 Its a -very- active current project. :-) We have finished SVGA hardware on 
 completed pc boards. The firmware is being finished and tested in the lab as 
 I type this.

 The SVGA adapter for the P3 plugs into the  existing rear IO board inside 
 the P3. It can be added to any existing P3 very easily.

 We are currently displaying P3 data on the external monitor at up to 1920 x 
 1080p. It looks very cool. Stay tuned!

 73,
 Eric

 www.elecraft.com
 _..._



 On Oct 14, 2011, at 10:44 PM, Bobk...@att.net   wrote:

 Leave it at or??   Please expand on the or.

 Is the P3 a finished project or we ever see the ability to attach a larger
 screen as was
 mentioned here on the reflector.   That ability was a consideration in the
 original purchase.

 73,
 Bob
 K2TK

 On 10/14/2011 3:01 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
 We're trying to line up a resource to update it. Everyone seems to be
 working on the K3, or the KX3, or the KAT500, or... well, let's just
 leave it at or.

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR


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73,

Gary K9GS

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Transmitter Gain Cal Failure at 1mW with KXV3a

2011-10-21 Thread Anndel
Michael,

1. Is the dummy load rated for 50 mhz plus 10-160m?

2. Is the dummy load rated for at least 50 watts?  I'm guessing yes since it
passed the other bands with the KXV3.

73 Delwyn KH6DC

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Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 4:55 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Transmitter Gain Cal Failure at 1mW with KXV3a

Hello K3 Support,
 
I installed the KXV3a tonight into my K3 and when I went to do the 
Gain Calibration it failed on 6 Meters as it was unable to get the required 
 output.
 
Any idea why this output could be low on this band (I believe it only  
reached an 8 out of the expected 10)?
 
Thank you,
 
73's Michael
n2zdb
 
 
 
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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB net announcement

2011-10-21 Thread Phillip Shepard
The weekly Elecraft SSB net will meet Sunday (10/23/11) at 1800Z on 14.3035
MHz +/- QRM. I will be net control from western Oregon, and we'll try relays
to pull in the stations that I can't hear.  Saturday, I will be on a summit
in the central Oregon Cascades for NA SOTA day.  Hope to hear some of you.
Check SOTA Watch at www.sotawatch.org.

See you there.

73,

Phil, NS7P

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