Re: [Elecraft] what am I doing wrong?

2012-04-23 Thread KC6CNN
You Are the Man DON. 
Changed Jumper jp4 and got alc movement. 
Set it to 4 bars solid and the fith just blinking and got alc movement. 


Now to make a psk contact. 

Thank all of you for your help. 

Gerald - KC6CNN

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Re: [Elecraft] Keypad for frequency entry

2012-04-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
Gary,

True, but add the "other element" - the VFO knob on the "pod".  The 
advent of spots and other similar would want the advantage of quick and 
direct frequency entry not far from the keyboard, but still there is a 
need for "fine tuning" by a rotary knob.

TenTec has long offered its Pod, and IMHO is the design that is to be 
duplicated.  Yes, it is simplistic - a VFO knob with a bunch of buttons 
that can serve either as a numerical keypad or as 10 "PF" buttons.

That functionality allows one's hand to easily move from the computer 
keyboard to the Pod and back to the computer.  Certainly computer 
keyboard and mouse actions can do the same thing, but there is a strong 
contingency of K3 users who would prefer separate (and more analog-like) 
controls.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/24/2012 12:12 AM, Gary Hinson wrote:
> Hi Bill.
>
> Using Logger32 (and probably others - I'm pretty sure N1MM does this too), I
> just type the frequency into the callsign entry field, hit return, and the
> rig QSYs instantly.  Easier,  more accessible, and less fiddly  than the K3
> front panel 'freq ent' malarkey, and one less gadget on the desk since I
> need a PC keyboard regardless.   Handy when someone suggests "QSY ten - try
> 28035?".
>
> 73,
> Gary  ZL2iFB
>
> www.G4iFB.com
>
>
>
>> -Original Message-
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>> boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill
>> Sent: Tuesday, 24 April 2012 8:46 a.m.
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Keypad for frequency entry
>>
>> Over the years, I have used several rigs that offered keypad frequency
> entry
>> - NOT from the front panel. Rather, from a third party keypad.
>>
>> Any such available for the K3?
>>
>> My mind is sharp enough to remember the frequencies I wish to use - just
>> not educated sufficiently to design my own keypad system/device.
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] what am I doing wrong?

2012-04-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
Gerald,

Your SignaLink by default is plugged for Mic level output - and if you 
have the SignaLink line out cable connected to the K3 Line-in, you need 
to change a jumper to increase the audio out to line level (see the 
SignaLink instructions).  Currently, you do not have enough audio coming 
into the K3.

Whatever the situation with SignaLink and the K3 connections, you need 
to see 4 bars solid on the ALC scale with the 5th bar flickering.

Set the K3 into TX TEST (no RF output) while you play with those level 
settings.  Once you have achieved the correct audio drive levels, all 
should be downhill from there - adjust the power knob for the desired RF 
output power and make contacts.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/23/2012 11:57 PM, KC6CNN wrote:
> Ok, Let me start again, but this time from the computer.
> I have a Elecraft K3 and it is hooked up to a signalink. Going to my lap top
> which is running a older version of HRD. I decode PSK31 fine business. I am
> putting out about 25 watts and have yet to make a contact. I did name a
> contact on CW, but everything I try in PSK doesnt work.
> I check out what Don had told me and I do not have anything showing on the
> ALC in Data A mode.
> No matter if I turn up the line in gain or the tx knob on the signalink.
> My output meter shows 25 watts, but no alc. The compression is off. and I
> have the center marker set for 1500 on the software.
>
> agc is fast. atu in active, swr on 40 meters is 1.0 - 1 and am using fl1 2.8
> as the transmit filter.
>
> hope this helps explain some, so I can try to figure this out.
> Thanks for all the replies and help. nice to have this reflector and a great
> bunch of hams on here.
>
> any and all ideals are greatly appreciated.
> Gerald - KC6CNN
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Re: [Elecraft] Keypad for frequency entry

2012-04-23 Thread Gary Hinson
Hi Bill.

Using Logger32 (and probably others - I'm pretty sure N1MM does this too), I
just type the frequency into the callsign entry field, hit return, and the
rig QSYs instantly.  Easier,  more accessible, and less fiddly  than the K3
front panel 'freq ent' malarkey, and one less gadget on the desk since I
need a PC keyboard regardless.   Handy when someone suggests "QSY ten - try
28035?".

73,
Gary  ZL2iFB

www.G4iFB.com 



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> boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill
> Sent: Tuesday, 24 April 2012 8:46 a.m.
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Keypad for frequency entry
> 
> Over the years, I have used several rigs that offered keypad frequency
entry
> - NOT from the front panel. Rather, from a third party keypad.
> 
> Any such available for the K3?
> 
> My mind is sharp enough to remember the frequencies I wish to use - just
> not educated sufficiently to design my own keypad system/device.
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] what am I doing wrong?

2012-04-23 Thread KC6CNN
Ok, Let me start again, but this time from the computer. 
I have a Elecraft K3 and it is hooked up to a signalink. Going to my lap top
which is running a older version of HRD. I decode PSK31 fine business. I am
putting out about 25 watts and have yet to make a contact. I did name a
contact on CW, but everything I try in PSK doesnt work. 
I check out what Don had told me and I do not have anything showing on the
ALC in Data A mode. 
No matter if I turn up the line in gain or the tx knob on the signalink. 
My output meter shows 25 watts, but no alc. The compression is off. and I
have the center marker set for 1500 on the software. 

agc is fast. atu in active, swr on 40 meters is 1.0 - 1 and am using fl1 2.8
as the transmit filter. 

hope this helps explain some, so I can try to figure this out. 
Thanks for all the replies and help. nice to have this reflector and a great
bunch of hams on here. 

any and all ideals are greatly appreciated. 
Gerald - KC6CNN


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Re: [Elecraft] what am I doing wrong?

2012-04-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
Data A is the proper sub-mode for PSK31.

Do you have your audio level set correctly? Compression should be zero, but
Increase the audio until you see 4 bars illuminated with the 5th bar 
flickering on the ALC scale.
Use the power knob to set the desired power level.
With the K2, K3 and KX3, ignore the setup information that you often see 
on the web - the way Elecraft controls power is different.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/23/2012 8:53 PM, Gerald Manthey wrote:
> Using K3. I'm using data a for mode. Is that maybe the problem?
> On Apr 23, 2012 7:30 PM, "Matt Zilmer"  wrote:
>
>> Are you using PSK31 "normal" frequencies?  You can find these at
>> http://www.podxs070.com/common-psk31-operating-frequencies.
>> There is a good explanation about why these common frequencies are
>> best to use for trying to make PSK31 contacts.
>>
>> If you can't get anyone else by CQing, drop me a line at this email
>> address and we'll set up a sked.
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] what am I doing wrong?

2012-04-23 Thread Ian Kahn - Ham
OK.  You're using the K3 set to DATA - DATA A mode.  So far so good.  
How is the rig connected to your computer?  Directly or through an 
interface?  How are you keying the rig?  This sounds like the big 
question here.  Are you using VOX, DTR/RTS, or direct COM port keying?  
What software are you using?

We need a bit more information so we can help you out.

73,

--Ian

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On 4/23/2012 9:07 PM, Gerald Manthey wrote:
> No problem and I decode them fine.
> On Apr 23, 2012 8:07 PM, "Jim Dunstan"  wrote:
>
>> At 05:30 PM 4/23/2012 -0700, you wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> First thing is to listen in to PSK conversations.  I assume you have no
>> problem hearing PSK signals.
>>
>> Jim, VE3CI
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 intermittent problem

2012-04-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
Igor,

After giving your question some thought - I would suggest making another 
attempt with the K2 set to receive on the FL1 filter (the same filter as 
used for transmit).

If you still have the shift between TX and RX, the problem is most 
likely in the way the the sidetone shift offset is being handled (Wayne 
would have to answer that situation, I do not have a clue to what goes 
on inside the firmware)

However, if the shift is absent with that setup, you can solve the 
problem with the BFO settings for the filter.

I really don't think that limited shift will make a great difference in 
actual use, but I must admit it could be annoying.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/23/2012 3:44 PM, Igor Sokolov wrote:
> Did it with well aligned and checked K3 in CW mode plus external frequency
> counter.
> Transmit on K2, receive on K3 tuned to the same pitch as set in the menu.
> Then TX on the K3 RX on K2. TX frequency in both cases checked by the
> external counter.
>
> 73, Igor UA9CDC
>
>> Igor,
>>
>> What mode?  How are you determining that the TX and RX frequencies are
>> different?
>> There should be no difference in SSB, and in CW the difference should be
>> equal to the sidetone pitch.
>>
>>   73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>>
>> On 4/23/2012 1:23 PM, Igor Sokolov wrote:
>>> The problem was finally tracked down to X3,X4 crystals. Changing one of
>>> them
>>> (only one was found in a local shop) cured the intermittent frequency
>>> change. BFO frequency range is within the accepted limits (a bit more
>>> then
>>> 3.6 kHz). VFO linearization and CAL FIL is done. Now I have  another
>>> problem. TX and RX frequencies do not coincide. The difference is band
>>> dependant. It is 30Hz on 80m and 260Hz on 28 MHz. Although the radio is
>>> usable with engaged RIT (OR XIT) I would like to cure the new problem.
>>> Can somebody root me in the right direction please
>>>
>>> 73, Igor UA9CDC
>>>
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Re: [Elecraft] what am I doing wrong?

2012-04-23 Thread Greg
Gerald,

Are you using a digital mode program or trying to use psk direct from the
radio?  If software, what program?

73
Greg
AB7R
 On Apr 23, 2012 6:08 PM, "Gerald Manthey"  wrote:

> No problem and I decode them fine.
> On Apr 23, 2012 8:07 PM, "Jim Dunstan"  wrote:
>
> > At 05:30 PM 4/23/2012 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > First thing is to listen in to PSK conversations.  I assume you have no
> > problem hearing PSK signals.
> >
> > Jim, VE3CI
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Re: [Elecraft] HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION

2012-04-23 Thread Fred Jensen
On 4/23/2012 3:16 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

> If your Realtor isn't helpful, contact
> the company who insured your title to the property.

No Ron, find a new Realtor who is helpful

73,

Fred K6DGW
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Re: [Elecraft] what am I doing wrong?

2012-04-23 Thread Gerald Manthey
No problem and I decode them fine.
On Apr 23, 2012 8:07 PM, "Jim Dunstan"  wrote:

> At 05:30 PM 4/23/2012 -0700, you wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> First thing is to listen in to PSK conversations.  I assume you have no
> problem hearing PSK signals.
>
> Jim, VE3CI
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Re: [Elecraft] what am I doing wrong?

2012-04-23 Thread Jim Dunstan
At 05:30 PM 4/23/2012 -0700, you wrote:

Hi

First thing is to listen in to PSK conversations.  I assume you have no 
problem hearing PSK signals.

Jim, VE3CI

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Re: [Elecraft] what am I doing wrong?

2012-04-23 Thread Gerald Manthey
Using K3. I'm using data a for mode. Is that maybe the problem?
On Apr 23, 2012 7:30 PM, "Matt Zilmer"  wrote:

> Are you using PSK31 "normal" frequencies?  You can find these at
> http://www.podxs070.com/common-psk31-operating-frequencies.
> There is a good explanation about why these common frequencies are
> best to use for trying to make PSK31 contacts.
>
> If you can't get anyone else by CQing, drop me a line at this email
> address and we'll set up a sked.
>
> 73,
> matt W6NIA
>
> On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 16:58:26 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
>
> >I have been trying to make a contact in psk31 mode for two weeks. I have
> not
> >had any luck. Settings are good on software. Signalink works had a CW
> >contact with it. But call CQ and answer cq's and both luck on 20 , 30, or
> 40
> >meters.
> >Is there anyone who experienced this and located a problem. I'm stumped.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] what am I doing wrong?

2012-04-23 Thread Matt Zilmer
Are you using PSK31 "normal" frequencies?  You can find these at
http://www.podxs070.com/common-psk31-operating-frequencies.
There is a good explanation about why these common frequencies are
best to use for trying to make PSK31 contacts.

If you can't get anyone else by CQing, drop me a line at this email
address and we'll set up a sked.

73,
matt W6NIA

On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 16:58:26 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

>I have been trying to make a contact in psk31 mode for two weeks. I have not
>had any luck. Settings are good on software. Signalink works had a CW
>contact with it. But call CQ and answer cq's and both luck on 20 , 30, or 40
>meters. 
>Is there anyone who experienced this and located a problem. I'm stumped. 
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[Elecraft] XV144MDKT

2012-04-23 Thread Sebastian, W4AS
I noticed this today, good for those who have older XV144s:

Addition of L19 to the XV144 to allow pulling of osc. frequency.


73 de Sebastian, W4AS



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Re: [Elecraft] what am I doing wrong?

2012-04-23 Thread Ian Kahn - Ham
What rig type?

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On 4/23/2012 7:58 PM, KC6CNN wrote:
> I have been trying to make a contact in psk31 mode for two weeks. I have not
> had any luck. Settings are good on software. Signalink works had a CW
> contact with it. But call CQ and answer cq's and both luck on 20 , 30, or 40
> meters.
> Is there anyone who experienced this and located a problem. I'm stumped.
>
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[Elecraft] what am I doing wrong?

2012-04-23 Thread KC6CNN
I have been trying to make a contact in psk31 mode for two weeks. I have not
had any luck. Settings are good on software. Signalink works had a CW
contact with it. But call CQ and answer cq's and both luck on 20 , 30, or 40
meters. 
Is there anyone who experienced this and located a problem. I'm stumped. 

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Re: [Elecraft] [XV222] Ease of assembly?

2012-04-23 Thread kp4md
Having had Heathkit building experience, I would agree with the Oct 2004 QST
review's estimated 15-20 hours for assembly.  I am up to page 30 of the
assembly manual after 7 hours, and can only imagine doing it much faster if
my eyesight was sharp enough not to need a magnifying lens. 

I've posted an unboxing video at 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdJzRTR7DDU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdJzRTR7DDU 
and still photos at 
https://picasaweb.google.com/114032640816757126398/ElecraftXV144TransverterKit
https://picasaweb.google.com/114032640816757126398/ElecraftXV144TransverterKit 


Don Wilhelm-4 wrote
> 
> Jim.
> 
> Thru-hole only.  If you are reasonaly efficient, it will take you from 4 
> to 6 hours to finish the assembly.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 4/16/2012 10:38 PM, Jim Lowman wrote:
>> I suppose this question pertains to any of the XV-series transverters.
>>
>> How long should the assembly/alignment/testing take?
>> I've been assembling kits since the Heathkit days.
>>
> 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 control with HRD

2012-04-23 Thread Ian Kahn - Ham
Steve,

If you are not running digital modes, you shouldn't need any other 
cables.  If you are running digital modes (PSK, RTTY, OLIVIA, etc.) you 
will need either a sound card interface between the K3 and the computer, 
which will require its own cabling, or cables to connect the Line In and 
Line Out on the K3 to the Line Out and Line In, respectively, on the 
computer sound card.

Hope this helps.

73,

--Ian

Ian Kahn, KM4IK
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K3 #281, P3 #688
HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team


On 4/23/2012 3:31 PM, Steve wrote:
> Greetings,  I'd like to use Ham Radio Deluxe 5.11
> to control and do logging with my
> Elecraft K3.  I have the KUSB cable from
> Elecraft.  Is this the only cable I need to have
> my computer take control of the K3 using HRD?
> Thanks es VY73'
> Steve W8CRH
> SEMPER FI
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Re: [Elecraft] HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION

2012-04-23 Thread Phil Hystad
I have frequently seen real estate ads that actually say "No HOAs" as a 
selling point.  Just the opposite of what it was like 20 years ago or so.


On Apr 23, 2012, at 3:16 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

> My XYL is a real estate broker here in Oregon and one of the things most
> often found on a buyer's "must have" list for a home is *NO HOA*. 
> 
> As a result, HOA's here tend to bring down the value of a property. 
> 
> CC&Rs (Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions on what you can do with
> property you buy) may exist even with no HOA. They often have expiration
> dates written into them, and they are frequently voided by state and federal
> laws. For example, I once owned a home built in the 1920's whose CC&Rs
> included a prohibition from hanging my laundry out on a clothesline on
> Sundays. Having no clothesline I didn't test it.
> 
> Anyone owning or contemplating owning property should know what CC&Rs are
> attached to it or if there are none. If your Realtor isn't helpful, contact
> the company who insured your title to the property.
> 
> 73, Ron AC7AC
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> 
> However, It's almost impossible to buy a new home, or a home that was built
> in the last several years, without running into this restriction.
> 
> I've never quite understood why these restrictions don't expire when all of
> the homes in a given development have passed ownership from the developer to
> the individual homeowners.
> That is, in absence of a HOA.
> 
> 73 de Jim - AD6CW
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Re: [Elecraft] KN5DB controller

2012-04-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dave,

One little "catch" to putting it on my website - I don't have permission 
from the owner to do that, and it is not my material.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/23/2012 5:24 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote:
> Robert Brown kindly sent me the pdf's of Don's notes and Don W (w3fpr) will 
> probably put them up on his site.
>
>
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[Elecraft] HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ??!!! - ARRL Method

2012-04-23 Thread Jim Miller KG0KP

This is a VALID way of responding and is likely our ONLY chance.  If you 
don't care about your hobby, don't do a thing.

This has been in process by the ARRL for 3 years and the FCC said they would 
not address the "private contract" (CC&Rs) SO, the ARRL went to congress and 
THEY TOLD THE FCC to gather information about the impediments to amateur 
radio communications and emergency communications in particular by the home 
owners restrictions (CC&Rs).

We have never had a chance like this and will not likely have one again in 
our lifetime to supply them with what they are being forced to "study" (and 
WITH the help and assistance of the ARRL).

I do not think much of this "petition" having any effect at all except to 
make people think they did something and prevent them from doing what we 
have been requested to do by the ARRL.

Go to www. arrl.org
 - click on Regulatory and Advocacy
 - on the left side, click on Federal
 - on the left side, click on CCR Study Information
 - Please read about "Overview of FCC Land Use Restriction Study"
- PLEASE respond.
- The deadline is April 25 for getting your information to the ARRL.

There is a form you can fill out online and there is an email for you to 
attach your CC&Rs and an explanation of your radio installation as well as 
how well/poorly it functions and what you were prevented from installing. 
url is www.arrl.org/ccr-regulations and the email is ccri...@arrl.org .

This is a VALID way of responding and is likely our ONLY chance.  If you 
don't care about your hobby, don't do a thing.

73, de Jim KG0KP 


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Re: [Elecraft] HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION TO VOID ANTENNA PROHIBITIONS [End of thread]

2012-04-23 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
This thread (with a slightly different subject line) is also closed.

73,
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On 4/23/2012 2:40 PM, Tony Estep wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Steve Reed  wrote:
>
>> ...What the CC&Rs lack is "reasonable accommodation" -- for example, I
>> could easily string up a
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION [END of Thread]

2012-04-23 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Folks - This OT thread is exceeding our max posting quantity threshold. 
Please take it to direct email.

[Thread closed]

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On 4/23/2012 3:16 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
> My XYL is a real estate broker here in Oregon and one of the things most
> often found on a buyer's "must have" list for a home is *NO HOA*.
>
> As a result, HOA's here tend to bring down the value of a property.
>
> CC&Rs (Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions on what you can do with
> property you buy) may exist even with no HOA. They often have expiration
> dates written into them, and they are frequently voided by state and federal
> laws. For example, I once owned a home built in the 1920's whose CC&Rs
> included a prohibition from hanging my laundry out on a clothesline on
> Sundays. Having no clothesline I didn't test it.
>
> Anyone owning or contemplating owning property should know what CC&Rs are
> attached to it or if there are none. If your Realtor isn't helpful, contact
> the company who insured your title to the property.
>
> 73, Ron AC7AC
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> However, It's almost impossible to buy a new home, or a home that was built
> in the last several years, without running into this restriction.
>
> I've never quite understood why these restrictions don't expire when all of
> the homes in a given development have passed ownership from the developer to
> the individual homeowners.
> That is, in absence of a HOA.
>
> 73 de Jim - AD6CW
>
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Re: [Elecraft] HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION

2012-04-23 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
My XYL is a real estate broker here in Oregon and one of the things most
often found on a buyer's "must have" list for a home is *NO HOA*. 

As a result, HOA's here tend to bring down the value of a property. 

CC&Rs (Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions on what you can do with
property you buy) may exist even with no HOA. They often have expiration
dates written into them, and they are frequently voided by state and federal
laws. For example, I once owned a home built in the 1920's whose CC&Rs
included a prohibition from hanging my laundry out on a clothesline on
Sundays. Having no clothesline I didn't test it.

Anyone owning or contemplating owning property should know what CC&Rs are
attached to it or if there are none. If your Realtor isn't helpful, contact
the company who insured your title to the property.

73, Ron AC7AC


-Original Message-

However, It's almost impossible to buy a new home, or a home that was built
in the last several years, without running into this restriction.

I've never quite understood why these restrictions don't expire when all of
the homes in a given development have passed ownership from the developer to
the individual homeowners.
That is, in absence of a HOA.

73 de Jim - AD6CW

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Re: [Elecraft] HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION TO VOID ANTENNA PROHIBITIONS

2012-04-23 Thread Tony Estep
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Steve Reed  wrote:

> ...What the CC&Rs lack is "reasonable accommodation" -- for example, I
> could easily string up a
> multiband wire antenna...


I'm sure all hams would agree with Steve. A clarification of the existing
regs would give hams much more leverage in attempts to cram down a
"reasonable accommodation" over the objections of local officials. Some
have succeeded, and whenever one does QST crows about it -- but many have
failed.

My town is kinda snooty but there have been some hams on zoning boards etc
and a precedent was established a long time ago that antennas are okay if
they aren't too obtrusive (whatever that may mean). My solution was to
mount a hex-beam on my chimney. It's hardly visible from the road. In
general, antennas mounted on a house seem to be out of the purview of the
vigilantes. Some of my buddies even have roof tripods and tri-banders. If
some standard could be set so that every ham could have the same rights we
enjoy here, 'twould be a consummation devoutly to be wished.

Tony KT0NY


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Re: [Elecraft] HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION

2012-04-23 Thread Jim Lowman
Thanks for jumping in, Phil.

I did not respond with comments because these private contracts do not 
affect me - yet.
This is an established neighborhood with no HOA or CC&Rs, so no problem 
putting up antennas.
In fact, my neighbor to the west is also a ham and has higher VHF 
antennas than I have HF antennas.
Also, I do not currently participate in emergency communications.

However, It's almost impossible to buy a new home, or a home that was 
built in the last several years, without running into this restriction.

I've never quite understood why these restrictions don't expire when all 
of the homes in a given development have passed ownership from the 
developer to the individual homeowners.
That is, in absence of a HOA.

73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 4/23/2012 12:18 PM, Phil Kane wrote:
> Actually the FCC does have jurisdiction over local lawsthat's what 
> "PRB-1" is all about. The situation here is jurisdiction over 
> unreasonable private land use contract restrictions, commonly known as 
> "CC&Rs",not local laws. I am an attorney who deals with that 
> professionally. I'll be glad to post info about what is going on if 
> the moderators feel that it is worthwhile. There's a lot of 
> misinformation floating around right now. --- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane 
> Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 ARRL Volunteer Counsel >From a Clearing in 
> the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon 
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Re: [Elecraft] KN5DB controller

2012-04-23 Thread Dave KK7SS
Matt,

Thank you for the pdf...
I remember discussing this one with Don quite a few years ago.

The Micro M controller is quite a different beast from KN5DB's controller.
More parts, different controlling methodology with quite a lot of built-in 
safety stuff.

IIRC, Don's design was originally for charging the K2 battery.
I'll get corrected on this if I'm in error.

Robert Brown kindly sent me the pdf's of Don's notes and Don W (w3fpr) will 
probably put them up on his site.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 ATU Tune

2012-04-23 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

> The thing that prompted me to ask send the message was the first
> question about the fold back on power and if it needs the K3 ATU
> Tune button to be pressed to reset even though the load is well
> matched and should not fold back at all.

I don't understand this question.  If you have engaged the KAT3 and
it has been unable to tune the load satisfactorily and the K3 goes
into foldback, the load will remain improperly tuned until the KAT3
is tuned again to find a satisfactory set of matching conditions (if
such a set exists).

If one tunes a mismatched load then substitutes a properly matched
load for the mismatched one without readjusting the tuner, the K3 may
fold back because the "good" load is being transformed to a bad one
just the way the "bad" one had been transformed to a "good" load.

I *think* the answer to your question is that the tuner must be
bypassed (or adjusted for a 50 Ohm to 50 Ohm transformation) any
time you connect a "well matched" load.  If you fail to bypass the
tuner, the "well matched load" is no longer matched to the output
condition of the KAT3.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 4/23/2012 4:08 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
> About my second question on the different readings of the K3 ATU and the 
> LP-100A.  Gosh Darn It -- I knew that.  I was not thinking.  I had been doing 
> so many different measurements this morning that when that came about (the 
> different readings), I was surprised but it was obviously not a problem.  I 
> just repeated the measurement and yes, the raw SWR is 1.73:1 and the K3 Tuned 
> to a flat 1:1 yet the LP-100A is reading the raw SWR.
>
> But, actually that was not my main question.  The thing that prompted me to 
> ask send the message was the first question about the fold back on power and 
> if it needs the K3 ATU Tune button to be pressed to reset even though the 
> load is well matched and should not fold back at all.
>
> 73, phil, K7PEH
>
>
> On Apr 23, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
>>
>> Phil,
>>
>> The LP-100A (or any external SWR/power measurement device) is not
>> accurate when you are using the KAT3 (K3 internal ATU) since it is
>> on the *output* of the tuner and not the *input*.
>>
>> A tuner *DOES NOT CHANGE THE SWR BETWEEN THE TUNER AND ANTENNA* it
>> only changes the SWR seen by any device looking at the *input* of
>> the tuner.  With the KAT3 the *input* to the tuner is "inside* the
>> K3.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> ... Joe, W4TV
>>
>>
>> On 4/23/2012 3:17 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
>>> I am trying to learn the behavior of the K3 ATU Tune.  I am switching 
>>> between two loads.  One is dummy load with SWR of about 1.1.  The other is 
>>> a mismatch on an antenna with a measured SWR of about 4.9 (as read off of 
>>> the LP-100A meter).  I am attempting to use the ATU Tune button to bring 
>>> this unmatched SWR load into a match of 1.5 or under.
>>>
>>> So, I am getting strange results.  I can use my external AT1KM tuner to 
>>> bring this into a flat 1:1 SWR.  If I press the K3 ATU Tune button I also 
>>> get the 1:1 SWR reading (or close to it, one bar on the K3 SWR display plut 
>>> the LP-100A reads 1:1).  If I switch the tuner out of service (into a 
>>> bypass mode where the K3 is looking at a 4.9:1 SWR), I use the K3 to hit 
>>> XMIT briefly and read out the 4.9 SWR.  At this point, it looks like I get 
>>> a fold back on power of about 50 percent (operating at 10 watts so fold 
>>> back to 5 watts I guess).  The next thing I do is switch the AT1KM tuner 
>>> back into service without changing anything.  When I key down I am getting 
>>> SWR of 1:1 on the LP-100A and the K3 but the power is still folded back.  
>>> If I hit the K3 Tune button, it quickly tunes and the power is back to full 
>>> power (or, 10 watts).
>>>
>>> So, my question --- If the K3 folds back power due to high SWR then is it 
>>> required to hit the tune button to reset power when you now have a matched 
>>> load, 1:1 in this case?
>>>
>>> I hope I have explained the situation, it is a little involved in set up 
>>> but I ran across this accidentally while measuring some different antenna 
>>> loads.
>>>
>>> Also, I am not sure I am reading the SWR on the K3 correctly.  If I hit the 
>>> tune button for one of my antennas (in this case different from above 
>>> scenario) and NO EXTERNAL TUNER, The K3 tunes and a single bar shows up on 
>>> the SWR display which I figure is either 1:1 or close to it.  But, I have 
>>> an LP-100A sitting on the output of my K-line (I have a KPA500 in there but 
>>> it is not on during these tests) and the LP-100A gives an SWR reading of 
>>> 1.73:1.  Who do I believe? The LP-100A was calibrated at the factory (not a 
>>> kit).
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> 73, phil, K7PEH
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Re: [Elecraft] HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION TO VOID ANTENNA PROHIBITIONS

2012-04-23 Thread Steve Reed
The CC&Rs that are effectively shutting down Amateur Radio in many
residential areas desperately need to be superseded by the FCC.  I would
also add that although towers and beams are nice, they really aren't
necessary for effective communication and in some situations aren't
advisable.  In my neighborhood, for example, high winds and the proximity
of other homes are enough to keep a tower off my my wish list -- the
liability alone would keep me up at night.  What the CC&Rs lack is
"reasonable accommodation" -- for example, I could easily string up a
multiband wire antenna across the back of my house and it wouldn't even
remotely be an eyesore.  Or I could use a ground-mounted vertical.  Or
both.  But under the present set of circumstances, I have to hide the fact
that I'm a ham in order to keep from being severely penalized by the HOA
nannies.

I really hope the FCC finally mans up and does something about the CC&R
problem.  There have been efforts to fix this at the state level, and most
of those fail.  A federal mandate is what is needed!

Steve, AI7AZ
Vail, AZ

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Grant Youngman  wrote:

>
> On Apr 23, 2012, at 2:31 PM, David Christ wrote:
>
> > Once in place no Association is willing to
> > change them for fear of reducing values.  Since they are so prevalent
> > in new developments and have been for many years it has the effect of
> > red lining for hams.
>
> My experience with these things, is that it ends up having virtually
> nothing to do with home values.  The typical "no radio transmitters
> allowed" clauses would ban garage door openers, cell phones, and Wifi, but
> they don't of course.  HA's bring out the worst in the power hungry
> individuals and control freaks who typically populate them, and who would
> be happy to foreclose on your house because the color of your awnings
> offend them personally.
>
> I'd love to see the FeeCee tell these groups to pound sand.  As much as we
> scream about "freedom", we seem to be willing to give it up anytime time
> abrogation is offered.   I suspect the NRA would be willing to go broke
> supporting any homeowner who wanted to put a 16" gun turret on his roof as
> a 2nd Amendment right, but of course an antenna of any kind is a problem :)
>
> (I suspect this is going to hit "end of thread" any minute):)
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[Elecraft] kx3 update for addtional itmes

2012-04-23 Thread Robert Galambos
wondering what the estimated time for the availability of both the 
battery charger and the RAM mount for the KX3


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[Elecraft] Keypad for frequency entry

2012-04-23 Thread Bill
Over the years, I have used several rigs that offered keypad frequency 
entry - NOT from the front panel. Rather, from a third party keypad.

Any such available for the K3?

My mind is sharp enough to remember the frequencies I wish to use - just 
not educated sufficiently to design my own keypad system/device.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 control with HRD

2012-04-23 Thread Bill
I use HRD for some control of my K3. All I have is a standard serial 
cable from the K3 to the computer. I am using version 5.0 build 2893.

Offering far less control of the K3 than for some other rigs, I mostly 
use HRD for the memory features and markers on the slide rules. Far too 
few features are controllable.

That said, there is nothing else out there that will do the memories so 
elegantly.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 control with HRD

2012-04-23 Thread Gerald Manthey
Are you using a interface? Such as a  Signalink etc.
On Apr 23, 2012 2:31 PM, "Steve"  wrote:
>
> Greetings,  I'd like to use Ham Radio Deluxe 5.11
> to control and do logging with my
> Elecraft K3.  I have the KUSB cable from
> Elecraft.  Is this the only cable I need to have
> my computer take control of the K3 using HRD?
> Thanks es VY73'
> Steve W8CRH
> SEMPER FI
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Re: [Elecraft] HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION TO VOID ANTENNAPROHIBITIONS

2012-04-23 Thread Mike Sanders
I live out of town on 40 acres. My two towers are in easy view of a state
highway out front. They can be seen for over a mile. Around here my
towers and antennas are landmarks. It's nice to have a little antenna
farm and have it appreciated by others...8>)
Used to live in a sub division that had a nuisance ordinance. They
were up in arms about a little 40 foot Rohn with a tribander and couple
v/uhf antennas above. The crack pro next door who was in and out
her place all night long with various johns was obviously not as much
a nuisance as I was. Not to mention her brother who was arrested 26
times in one year. The cops were there a few times a month for one
thing or another. Amazing how these control freaks disappear when
something really unsavory shows up. One of the freaks called me
out one night with a pistol in his back pocket. A brief conversation
with him resulted in me not getting shot and him never getting very
close to me again..8>)
I truly sympathize with those fighting antenna restrictions. I lived that
life most of mine. Now I consider myself a lucky guy. My closest
neighbor is just over a quarter mile away. And what great folks they
are.  GL es 73 all.



Mike Sanders
KOAZ





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On Apr 23, 2012, at 2:31 PM, David Christ wrote:

> Once in place no Association is willing to
> change them for fear of reducing values.  Since they are so prevalent
> in new developments and have been for many years it has the effect of
> red lining for hams.

My experience with these things, is that it ends up having virtually nothing
to do with home values.  The typical "no radio transmitters allowed" clauses
would ban garage door openers, cell phones, and Wifi, but they don't of
course.  HA's bring out the worst in the power hungry individuals and
control freaks who typically populate them, and who would be happy to
foreclose on your house because the color of your awnings offend them
personally.

I'd love to see the FeeCee tell these groups to pound sand.  As much as we
scream about "freedom", we seem to be willing to give it up anytime time
abrogation is offered.   I suspect the NRA would be willing to go broke
supporting any homeowner who wanted to put a 16" gun turret on his roof as a
2nd Amendment right, but of course an antenna of any kind is a problem :)

(I suspect this is going to hit "end of thread" any minute):)
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 ATU Tune

2012-04-23 Thread Phil Hystad
About my second question on the different readings of the K3 ATU and the 
LP-100A.  Gosh Darn It -- I knew that.  I was not thinking.  I had been doing 
so many different measurements this morning that when that came about (the 
different readings), I was surprised but it was obviously not a problem.  I 
just repeated the measurement and yes, the raw SWR is 1.73:1 and the K3 Tuned 
to a flat 1:1 yet the LP-100A is reading the raw SWR.

But, actually that was not my main question.  The thing that prompted me to ask 
send the message was the first question about the fold back on power and if it 
needs the K3 ATU Tune button to be pressed to reset even though the load is 
well matched and should not fold back at all.

73, phil, K7PEH


On Apr 23, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

> 
> Phil,
> 
> The LP-100A (or any external SWR/power measurement device) is not
> accurate when you are using the KAT3 (K3 internal ATU) since it is
> on the *output* of the tuner and not the *input*.
> 
> A tuner *DOES NOT CHANGE THE SWR BETWEEN THE TUNER AND ANTENNA* it
> only changes the SWR seen by any device looking at the *input* of
> the tuner.  With the KAT3 the *input* to the tuner is "inside* the
> K3.
> 
> 73,
> 
>... Joe, W4TV
> 
> 
> On 4/23/2012 3:17 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
>> I am trying to learn the behavior of the K3 ATU Tune.  I am switching 
>> between two loads.  One is dummy load with SWR of about 1.1.  The other is a 
>> mismatch on an antenna with a measured SWR of about 4.9 (as read off of the 
>> LP-100A meter).  I am attempting to use the ATU Tune button to bring this 
>> unmatched SWR load into a match of 1.5 or under.
>> 
>> So, I am getting strange results.  I can use my external AT1KM tuner to 
>> bring this into a flat 1:1 SWR.  If I press the K3 ATU Tune button I also 
>> get the 1:1 SWR reading (or close to it, one bar on the K3 SWR display plut 
>> the LP-100A reads 1:1).  If I switch the tuner out of service (into a bypass 
>> mode where the K3 is looking at a 4.9:1 SWR), I use the K3 to hit XMIT 
>> briefly and read out the 4.9 SWR.  At this point, it looks like I get a fold 
>> back on power of about 50 percent (operating at 10 watts so fold back to 5 
>> watts I guess).  The next thing I do is switch the AT1KM tuner back into 
>> service without changing anything.  When I key down I am getting SWR of 1:1 
>> on the LP-100A and the K3 but the power is still folded back.  If I hit the 
>> K3 Tune button, it quickly tunes and the power is back to full power (or, 10 
>> watts).
>> 
>> So, my question --- If the K3 folds back power due to high SWR then is it 
>> required to hit the tune button to reset power when you now have a matched 
>> load, 1:1 in this case?
>> 
>> I hope I have explained the situation, it is a little involved in set up but 
>> I ran across this accidentally while measuring some different antenna loads.
>> 
>> Also, I am not sure I am reading the SWR on the K3 correctly.  If I hit the 
>> tune button for one of my antennas (in this case different from above 
>> scenario) and NO EXTERNAL TUNER, The K3 tunes and a single bar shows up on 
>> the SWR display which I figure is either 1:1 or close to it.  But, I have an 
>> LP-100A sitting on the output of my K-line (I have a KPA500 in there but it 
>> is not on during these tests) and the LP-100A gives an SWR reading of 
>> 1.73:1.  Who do I believe? The LP-100A was calibrated at the factory (not a 
>> kit).
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 73, phil, K7PEH
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Re: [Elecraft] HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION TO VOID ANTENNA PROHIBITIONS

2012-04-23 Thread Grant Youngman

On Apr 23, 2012, at 2:31 PM, David Christ wrote:

> Once in place no Association is willing to 
> change them for fear of reducing values.  Since they are so prevalent 
> in new developments and have been for many years it has the effect of 
> red lining for hams.

My experience with these things, is that it ends up having virtually nothing to 
do with home values.  The typical "no radio transmitters allowed" clauses would 
ban garage door openers, cell phones, and Wifi, but they don't of course.  HA's 
bring out the worst in the power hungry individuals and control freaks who 
typically populate them, and who would be happy to foreclose on your house 
because the color of your awnings offend them personally.

I'd love to see the FeeCee tell these groups to pound sand.  As much as we 
scream about "freedom", we seem to be willing to give it up anytime time 
abrogation is offered.   I suspect the NRA would be willing to go broke 
supporting any homeowner who wanted to put a 16" gun turret on his roof as a 
2nd Amendment right, but of course an antenna of any kind is a problem :)

(I suspect this is going to hit "end of thread" any minute):)
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Re: [Elecraft] HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION

2012-04-23 Thread Ray Sills
Hi Joe:

My HOA had to add an addendum to it's rules to accommodate the use of  
a dish up to 1 meter in diameter, per the FCC ruling.  Prior to that,  
the rules only "permitted" a dish up to 18" in diameter.  Federal law  
will always pre-empt state or local laws, including CC&Rs.

73 de Ray
K2ULR

On Apr 23, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

>
>> this is a waste of time as they (FCC) have no jurisdiction over local
>> laws which differ from community to community.
>
> That is not true.  Several years ago the FCC's OTARD (over the air
> reception device) ruling overturned restrictions against television
> antennas, satellite dishes, wireless internet antennas, etc.  The
> FCC (and any federal agency) has the authority to preempt private
> contracts (and land use restrictions) when they are "contrary to  
> public
> policy).
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>

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Re: [Elecraft] HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION

2012-04-23 Thread Tony Estep
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:

>
> ...Several years ago the FCC's OTARD (over the air
> reception device) ruling overturned restrictions against television
> antennas, satellite dishes, wireless internet antennas, etc.  The
> FCC (and any federal agency) has the authority..

==
Yep. This has been the case for many years and QST has reports frequently
about this or that case wherein a ham's attorney has used the federal
regulation to overturn some local law and allow antenna construction. The
ARRL has an in-house legal adviser to help hams use the federal regs for
this purpose.

The specific purpose of at least one currently proposed petition is to
strengthen the existing protection that hams are supposed to have against
local legislation, by citing specific instances in which a ham's inability
to put up an antenna was deemed to have prevented effective emergency
communications. Our DX club recently asked members to send in specific
examples of this sort of clash, if they know of any.

Tony KT0NY

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 intermittent problem

2012-04-23 Thread Igor Sokolov
Did it with well aligned and checked K3 in CW mode plus external frequency 
counter.
Transmit on K2, receive on K3 tuned to the same pitch as set in the menu. 
Then TX on the K3 RX on K2. TX frequency in both cases checked by the 
external counter.

73, Igor UA9CDC

> Igor,
>
> What mode?  How are you determining that the TX and RX frequencies are 
> different?
> There should be no difference in SSB, and in CW the difference should be 
> equal to the sidetone pitch.
>
>  73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
> On 4/23/2012 1:23 PM, Igor Sokolov wrote:
>> The problem was finally tracked down to X3,X4 crystals. Changing one of 
>> them
>> (only one was found in a local shop) cured the intermittent frequency
>> change. BFO frequency range is within the accepted limits (a bit more 
>> then
>> 3.6 kHz). VFO linearization and CAL FIL is done. Now I have  another
>> problem. TX and RX frequencies do not coincide. The difference is band
>> dependant. It is 30Hz on 80m and 260Hz on 28 MHz. Although the radio is
>> usable with engaged RIT (OR XIT) I would like to cure the new problem.
>> Can somebody root me in the right direction please
>>
>> 73, Igor UA9CDC
>> 

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Re: [Elecraft] HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION

2012-04-23 Thread Barry LaZar
PRB-1 is not a law. It was a recommendation to local jurisdictions that 
they allow reasonable antenna accommodation for ham radio. When the FCC 
acted to allow antennas for satellite TV, the commission chose not to 
include ham radio.

In recent years, ham radio has proven itself so useful/helpful during 
disasters that apparently the commission has chosen to review its past 
decision. I'm not aware of what kicked this off, but it sure is about time.

73,
Barry

On 4/23/2012 3:26 PM, Scott Manthe wrote:
> While that may be true in some kind of libertarian fantasy land, in
> reality the FCC (through PRB-1) and the rest of the federal government
> has a wide range of authority which can impact (or invalidate) local
> laws. This is why one can't legally buy a newly manufactured machine gun
> in any state, or start a marijuana commune, even in states where the
> cannabis has been decriminalized.
>
> That the FCC has chosen not to enforce PRB-1 doesn't mean that the
> agency doesn't have the authority to do so. The current administration
> seems to have a more traditional view of the FCC's place  in the
> regulatory landscape than has been the case since Reagan.
>
> 73,
> Scott, N9AA
>
>
> On 4/23/12 2:45 PM, ron wrote:
>>> RADIO LAW: HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION TO VOID ANTENNA PROHIBITIONS
>> this is a waste of time as they (FCC) have no jurisdiction over local
>> laws which differ from community to community.
>>
>> 72,
>> Ron, wb1hga
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION TO VOID ANTENNA PROHIBITIONS

2012-04-23 Thread David Christ
I'll not disagree with you but my view is more cynical.  It's all 
about the money.  From what I see, many of the things in CC&Rs are 
put there by the developer to ensure no one does anything to reduce 
his ability to sell units for top dollar.  Things like permitted 
colors, no cars parked outside, no chain link fences, no split level 
and on and on.  Since most people are not affected by these they 
willingly accept them.  Once in place no Association is willing to 
change them for fear of reducing values.  Since they are so prevalent 
in new developments and have been for many years it has the effect of 
red lining for hams.

My views - your delete key

David  K0LUM

At 2:36 PM -0400 4/23/12, Kevin Cozens wrote:
>A
>lot (most?) of local antenna restrictions were to originally to stop the
>sprouting up of TV antennas that could "spoil the look" of a neighbourhood.
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[Elecraft] K3 control with HRD

2012-04-23 Thread Steve
Greetings,  I'd like to use Ham Radio Deluxe 5.11 
to control and do logging with my
Elecraft K3.  I have the KUSB cable from 
Elecraft.  Is this the only cable I need to have
my computer take control of the K3 using HRD?
Thanks es VY73'
Steve W8CRH
SEMPER FI
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 ATU Tune

2012-04-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
Phil,

Actually you can believe both the K3 and the LP-100A.

The KAT3 is inside the K3, and the SWR it reads is that at the INPUT to 
the tuner.  Tuning the internal K3 tuner will *not* change the SWR on 
the outside of the K3, it will still be whatever you read on the LP-100A 
- that is the impedance of your antenna or whatever is connected to the 
LP-100 output.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/23/2012 3:17 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
> I am trying to learn the behavior of the K3 ATU Tune.  I am switching between 
> two loads.  One is dummy load with SWR of about 1.1.  The other is a mismatch 
> on an antenna with a measured SWR of about 4.9 (as read off of the LP-100A 
> meter).  I am attempting to use the ATU Tune button to bring this unmatched 
> SWR load into a match of 1.5 or under.
>
> So, I am getting strange results.  I can use my external AT1KM tuner to bring 
> this into a flat 1:1 SWR.  If I press the K3 ATU Tune button I also get the 
> 1:1 SWR reading (or close to it, one bar on the K3 SWR display plut the 
> LP-100A reads 1:1).  If I switch the tuner out of service (into a bypass mode 
> where the K3 is looking at a 4.9:1 SWR), I use the K3 to hit XMIT briefly and 
> read out the 4.9 SWR.  At this point, it looks like I get a fold back on 
> power of about 50 percent (operating at 10 watts so fold back to 5 watts I 
> guess).  The next thing I do is switch the AT1KM tuner back into service 
> without changing anything.  When I key down I am getting SWR of 1:1 on the 
> LP-100A and the K3 but the power is still folded back.  If I hit the K3 Tune 
> button, it quickly tunes and the power is back to full power (or, 10 watts).
>
> So, my question --- If the K3 folds back power due to high SWR then is it 
> required to hit the tune button to reset power when you now have a matched 
> load, 1:1 in this case?
>
> I hope I have explained the situation, it is a little involved in set up but 
> I ran across this accidentally while measuring some different antenna loads.
>
> Also, I am not sure I am reading the SWR on the K3 correctly.  If I hit the 
> tune button for one of my antennas (in this case different from above 
> scenario) and NO EXTERNAL TUNER, The K3 tunes and a single bar shows up on 
> the SWR display which I figure is either 1:1 or close to it.  But, I have an 
> LP-100A sitting on the output of my K-line (I have a KPA500 in there but it 
> is not on during these tests) and the LP-100A gives an SWR reading of 1.73:1. 
>  Who do I believe? The LP-100A was calibrated at the factory (not a kit).
>
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Re: [Elecraft] HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION

2012-04-23 Thread Scott Manthe
While that may be true in some kind of libertarian fantasy land, in 
reality the FCC (through PRB-1) and the rest of the federal government 
has a wide range of authority which can impact (or invalidate) local 
laws. This is why one can't legally buy a newly manufactured machine gun 
in any state, or start a marijuana commune, even in states where the 
cannabis has been decriminalized.

That the FCC has chosen not to enforce PRB-1 doesn't mean that the 
agency doesn't have the authority to do so. The current administration 
seems to have a more traditional view of the FCC's place  in the 
regulatory landscape than has been the case since Reagan.

73,
Scott, N9AA


On 4/23/12 2:45 PM, ron wrote:
>> RADIO LAW: HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION TO VOID ANTENNA PROHIBITIONS
> this is a waste of time as they (FCC) have no jurisdiction over local
> laws which differ from community to community.
>
> 72,
> Ron, wb1hga
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 ATU Tune

2012-04-23 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Phil,

The LP-100A (or any external SWR/power measurement device) is not
accurate when you are using the KAT3 (K3 internal ATU) since it is
on the *output* of the tuner and not the *input*.

A tuner *DOES NOT CHANGE THE SWR BETWEEN THE TUNER AND ANTENNA* it
only changes the SWR seen by any device looking at the *input* of
the tuner.  With the KAT3 the *input* to the tuner is "inside* the
K3.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 4/23/2012 3:17 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
> I am trying to learn the behavior of the K3 ATU Tune.  I am switching between 
> two loads.  One is dummy load with SWR of about 1.1.  The other is a mismatch 
> on an antenna with a measured SWR of about 4.9 (as read off of the LP-100A 
> meter).  I am attempting to use the ATU Tune button to bring this unmatched 
> SWR load into a match of 1.5 or under.
>
> So, I am getting strange results.  I can use my external AT1KM tuner to bring 
> this into a flat 1:1 SWR.  If I press the K3 ATU Tune button I also get the 
> 1:1 SWR reading (or close to it, one bar on the K3 SWR display plut the 
> LP-100A reads 1:1).  If I switch the tuner out of service (into a bypass mode 
> where the K3 is looking at a 4.9:1 SWR), I use the K3 to hit XMIT briefly and 
> read out the 4.9 SWR.  At this point, it looks like I get a fold back on 
> power of about 50 percent (operating at 10 watts so fold back to 5 watts I 
> guess).  The next thing I do is switch the AT1KM tuner back into service 
> without changing anything.  When I key down I am getting SWR of 1:1 on the 
> LP-100A and the K3 but the power is still folded back.  If I hit the K3 Tune 
> button, it quickly tunes and the power is back to full power (or, 10 watts).
>
> So, my question --- If the K3 folds back power due to high SWR then is it 
> required to hit the tune button to reset power when you now have a matched 
> load, 1:1 in this case?
>
> I hope I have explained the situation, it is a little involved in set up but 
> I ran across this accidentally while measuring some different antenna loads.
>
> Also, I am not sure I am reading the SWR on the K3 correctly.  If I hit the 
> tune button for one of my antennas (in this case different from above 
> scenario) and NO EXTERNAL TUNER, The K3 tunes and a single bar shows up on 
> the SWR display which I figure is either 1:1 or close to it.  But, I have an 
> LP-100A sitting on the output of my K-line (I have a KPA500 in there but it 
> is not on during these tests) and the LP-100A gives an SWR reading of 1.73:1. 
>  Who do I believe? The LP-100A was calibrated at the factory (not a kit).
>
> Thanks,
>
> 73, phil, K7PEH
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Re: [Elecraft] HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION

2012-04-23 Thread Phil Kane
On 4/23/2012 11:45 AM, ron wrote:
> 
>>
>> RADIO LAW: HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION TO VOID ANTENNA PROHIBITIONS
> 
> this is a waste of time as they (FCC) have no jurisdiction over local 
> laws which differ from community to community.

Actually the FCC does have jurisdiction over local lawsthat's what
"PRB-1" is all about.  The situation here is jurisdiction over
unreasonable private land use contract restrictions, commonly known as
"CC&Rs",not local laws.

I am an attorney who deals with that professionally.  I'll be glad to
post info about what is going on if the moderators feel that it is
worthwhile.  There's a lot of misinformation floating around right now.

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[Elecraft] K3 ATU Tune

2012-04-23 Thread Phil Hystad
I am trying to learn the behavior of the K3 ATU Tune.  I am switching between 
two loads.  One is dummy load with SWR of about 1.1.  The other is a mismatch 
on an antenna with a measured SWR of about 4.9 (as read off of the LP-100A 
meter).  I am attempting to use the ATU Tune button to bring this unmatched SWR 
load into a match of 1.5 or under.

So, I am getting strange results.  I can use my external AT1KM tuner to bring 
this into a flat 1:1 SWR.  If I press the K3 ATU Tune button I also get the 1:1 
SWR reading (or close to it, one bar on the K3 SWR display plut the LP-100A 
reads 1:1).  If I switch the tuner out of service (into a bypass mode where the 
K3 is looking at a 4.9:1 SWR), I use the K3 to hit XMIT briefly and read out 
the 4.9 SWR.  At this point, it looks like I get a fold back on power of about 
50 percent (operating at 10 watts so fold back to 5 watts I guess).  The next 
thing I do is switch the AT1KM tuner back into service without changing 
anything.  When I key down I am getting SWR of 1:1 on the LP-100A and the K3 
but the power is still folded back.  If I hit the K3 Tune button, it quickly 
tunes and the power is back to full power (or, 10 watts).

So, my question --- If the K3 folds back power due to high SWR then is it 
required to hit the tune button to reset power when you now have a matched 
load, 1:1 in this case?

I hope I have explained the situation, it is a little involved in set up but I 
ran across this accidentally while measuring some different antenna loads.

Also, I am not sure I am reading the SWR on the K3 correctly.  If I hit the 
tune button for one of my antennas (in this case different from above scenario) 
and NO EXTERNAL TUNER, The K3 tunes and a single bar shows up on the SWR 
display which I figure is either 1:1 or close to it.  But, I have an LP-100A 
sitting on the output of my K-line (I have a KPA500 in there but it is not on 
during these tests) and the LP-100A gives an SWR reading of 1.73:1.  Who do I 
believe? The LP-100A was calibrated at the factory (not a kit).

Thanks,

73, phil, K7PEH

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 cursor position

2012-04-23 Thread VE3WDM
Good afternoon Joe, Thanks for taking the time to post an answer. That was
the odd thing the rig was in CW and not USB LSB or DATA. After reading your
post I just paced the K3 through the different modes from USB down to DATA
and back. After doing that all was good. 
Thanks for the feedback
Mike
VE3WDM

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Re: [Elecraft] HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION

2012-04-23 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

 > this is a waste of time as they (FCC) have no jurisdiction over local
 > laws which differ from community to community.

That is not true.  Several years ago the FCC's OTARD (over the air
reception device) ruling overturned restrictions against television
antennas, satellite dishes, wireless internet antennas, etc.  The
FCC (and any federal agency) has the authority to preempt private
contracts (and land use restrictions) when they are "contrary to public
policy).

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 4/23/2012 2:45 PM, ron wrote:
>
>>
>> RADIO LAW: HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION TO VOID ANTENNA PROHIBITIONS
>
> this is a waste of time as they (FCC) have no jurisdiction over local
> laws which differ from community to community.
>
> 72,
> Ron, wb1hga
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION

2012-04-23 Thread ron

>
> RADIO LAW: HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION TO VOID ANTENNA PROHIBITIONS

this is a waste of time as they (FCC) have no jurisdiction over local 
laws which differ from community to community.

72,
Ron, wb1hga


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Re: [Elecraft] HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION TO VOID ANTENNA PROHIBITIONS

2012-04-23 Thread Kevin Cozens
On 12-04-23 01:44 PM, Allen Brier N5XZ wrote:
> This, in an attempt to get the regulatory agency to void antenna
> prohibitions by developers and Home Owners Associations. EP2C8Q208C8N

It would also help to pass along information about antenna use in relation 
to amateur radio to the developers and Home Owners Associations to point out 
they are trying to restrict something that is licensed at a federal level. A 
lot (most?) of local antenna restrictions were to originally to stop the 
sprouting up of TV antennas that could "spoil the look" of a neighbourhood.

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[Elecraft] KN5DB Solar charger instructions anyone??

2012-04-23 Thread Dave KK7SS
Sorry to 'bomb' the lists...

I know that Don became a SK last year. 
Does anyone have a copy of his solar charger controller instructions?
I built it some time ago, but never got to use it.
The KX3 is the oportunity to use it..
But I've lost the paperwork..

Anyone??
Direct reply is ok...

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Re: [Elecraft] first post test and kx1 power issues

2012-04-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
What is your DC voltage?  The KX1 specification is 3-4 watts with 12 
volts, so you are close to the spec right now.  If you have an antenna 
analyzer, check you dummy load to be certain it is the same 50 ohm pure 
resistive load on both bands.  Your wattmeter may also be frequency 
sensitive - many are.

Yes, look at the toroids and the capacitor values in the LPF.

Don't push the power too far - the LPF componentscan be stressed with 
power level much over 4 watts (that depends on the SWR).

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/23/2012 1:11 PM, AC8JW wrote:
> I have just assembled s/n 2626 and have found low power output. Mine is a two
> band version with no options.  With a bench supply, I get 4 Watts on 20M and
> 3 Watts on 40M into a dummy load. This measured with an electaft W1.  I will
> look again at my LP toroids, but looks like I may need to do the power mod.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 intermittent problem

2012-04-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
Igor,

What mode?  How are you determining that the TX and RX frequencies are 
different?
There should be no difference in SSB, and in CW the difference should be 
equal to the sidetone pitch.

  73,
Don W3FPR


On 4/23/2012 1:23 PM, Igor Sokolov wrote:
> The problem was finally tracked down to X3,X4 crystals. Changing one of them
> (only one was found in a local shop) cured the intermittent frequency
> change. BFO frequency range is within the accepted limits (a bit more then
> 3.6 kHz). VFO linearization and CAL FIL is done. Now I have  another
> problem. TX and RX frequencies do not coincide. The difference is band
> dependant. It is 30Hz on 80m and 260Hz on 28 MHz. Although the radio is
> usable with engaged RIT (OR XIT) I would like to cure the new problem.
> Can somebody root me in the right direction please
>
> 73, Igor UA9CDC
>
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Advice re: blocking RF from rx-only antenna

2012-04-23 Thread Edward R. Cole
As one who deals with isolating very sensitive low-noise preamps from 
QRO levels at VHF I can offer a little more background on receiving 
on the same antenna as one transmits.  At HF probably most coaxial 
relays exhibit adequate isolation, but most eme'rs are familiar with 
the situation that it isn't necessarily so at VHF and higher where 
relay specs are derated.

Your goal should be that the receiver never sees RF above 0 dBm (1 
mw).  So how much isolation does the relay require if you run 
500w?  500w = 57 dBm, so you need at least 57 dB isolation.  Many 
relays only offer about 45-dB isolation so check the specs.  They may 
state good for a Kw or more but that is the transmit rating and not 
isolation.  I initially used Tohtsu CX-600NL relays rated at 1200w 
(but only had 45 dB isolation).  That meant my expensive low-noise 
preamp was seeing +7dBm (5mw) which is marginal.

I upgraded to relays with over 100-dB isolation for use with my 1400w 
2m-8877 amp.  At these levels it is most important that the relay is 
not switched while 1400w RF is flowing thru it (called hot 
switching).  A sequencer is the absolute solution for that.  MY 
sequencer also detects relay position to enable the K3 via the 
inhibit line.  Last week I had a failure on that ckt and no RF was 
transmitted (worked as designed).  I had forethought and added an 
inhibit bypass switch which allowed me to verify if it was a relay 
issue of just control failure ( SWR was fine indicating a failure in 
the inhibit control ckt).

Locating preamps at the tower top inside the near field of QRO 
antenna arrays has additional problems.  I ended up using 
double-shielded coax from the TR relay to the input of the preamp and 
shielded 12vdc cable to prevent RF pickup on the power leads.  This 
in addition to RF chokes and bypass caps being used on the preamp 12v 
connection.

At <600w I did not encounter these issues!

73, Ed

-
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 20:32:17 -0400
From: Don Wilhelm 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Advice re: blocking RF from rx-only
 antenna
To: David Herring 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: <4f94a311.5050...@embarqmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Dave,

That situation is dealt with routinely by VHF folks with mast mounted
preamps.
Using a coax relay to connect the amplifier to the antenna and a second
relay to connect the preamp to a 50 ohm load will usually provide
adequate isolation.

73,
Don W3FPR




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[Elecraft] HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION TO VOID ANTENNA PROHIBITIONS

2012-04-23 Thread Allen Brier N5XZ
PLEASE CROSS-POST THIS TO AS MANY REFLECTORS, SEND TO AS MANY HAMS AND NON-HAMS 
AND PRINT IN AS MANY NEWSLETTERS AS POSSIBLE!!

FROM QRZ.COM:

RADIO LAW: HAM GATHERING SIGNATURES ON PETITION TO VOID ANTENNA PROHIBITIONS

N4UM tells Newsline that he has begun a petition drive to the FCC. This, in an 
attempt to get the regulatory agency to void antenna prohibitions by developers 
and Home Owners Associations. 

As of this report the petition has garnered over 1000 signatures. N4UM says 
that he is doing this now because the FCC is currently requesting formal 
comments on emergency communications in amateur radio. The agency also wants to 
know the effects of impediments to the amateur radio service as part of the 
Docket GN 12-91 inquiry. 

Comments on this federal study close on May 17th. N4UM says that his petition 
will also close on this same day. You can find his petition on-line at 
tinyurl.com/antenna-rights (N4UM)


I don't know how much good this will do, but I can't see how it could hurt any 
pending efforts. At minimum it will bring some more attention to the subject by 
all concerned. In any case, PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION!


Allen N5XZ / KL5DX
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 intermittent problem

2012-04-23 Thread Igor Sokolov
The problem was finally tracked down to X3,X4 crystals. Changing one of them 
(only one was found in a local shop) cured the intermittent frequency 
change. BFO frequency range is within the accepted limits (a bit more then 
3.6 kHz). VFO linearization and CAL FIL is done. Now I have  another 
problem. TX and RX frequencies do not coincide. The difference is band 
dependant. It is 30Hz on 80m and 260Hz on 28 MHz. Although the radio is 
usable with engaged RIT (OR XIT) I would like to cure the new problem.
Can somebody root me in the right direction please

73, Igor UA9CDC

- Original Message - 
From: "Don Wilhelm" 
To: "Igor Sokolov" 
Cc: "Elecraft Reflector" 
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2012 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 intermittent problem


> Igor,
>
> An intermittent problem of that nature is usually associated with a bad 
> solder connection.
> Reflow the soldering (adding a little bit of flux from new solder) with a 
> hot (400 degC) iron.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 4/8/2012 4:28 AM, Igor Sokolov wrote:
>> Just discovered that knocking RF board in the region of the K14 and K15
>> relays makes the problem to appear or disappear. The offset does not 
>> depend
>> on the CW pitch  setting and is close to 1 khz.
>>
>> __
>> My K2 developed a problem. In CW mode TX frequency is off the RX 
>> frequency
>> by about 1 kHz. The problem is intermittent. Sometimes it manifests 
>> itself,
>> sometimes it does not.
>> Can anybody give me a hint where to look? I was about to see if changing 
>> CW
>> pitch changes the offset but so far cannot make the problem to appear 
>> again.
>> So far there were no evidence that the problem is temperature dependant.
>>
>> 73, Igor UA9CDC
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] first post test and kx1 power issues

2012-04-23 Thread AC8JW
I have just assembled s/n 2626 and have found low power output. Mine is a two
band version with no options.  With a bench supply, I get 4 Watts on 20M and
3 Watts on 40M into a dummy load. This measured with an electaft W1.  I will
look again at my LP toroids, but looks like I may need to do the power mod.



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Re: [Elecraft] first post test and kx1 power issues

2012-04-23 Thread AC8JW
I have just assembled s/n 2626 and have found low power output. Mine is a two
band version with no options.  With a bench supply, I get 4 Watts on 20M and
3 Watts on 40M into a dummy load. This measured with an electaft W1.  I will
look again at my LP toroids, but looks like I may need to do the power mod.



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 shipping pace

2012-04-23 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka
On Mon, 23 Apr 2012, Jim Brown wrote:

> On 4/21/2012 10:59 AM, Dennis Haarsager wrote:
>> I understand that there is a plan to pick up the pace,
>
> Dennis,
>
> Elecraft is a small company, and although they have been slowly adding
> people for several years as needed to support their growth, it takes
> time to work out the many details of putting a new product into
> production, and to building them more quickly and efficiently.  A little
> bird told me that while KX3s are still not "roaring" off the line,
> things are coming along nicely.
>
> Relax, take a deep breath, and chill.  Our KX3s will arrive when they're
> ready.

Completely off-topic, but do you know how long I waited for an IC2AT? A
synthesized handheld! For less than $300!

I was in high school then. Waiting was torture.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 shipping pace

2012-04-23 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/21/2012 10:59 AM, Dennis Haarsager wrote:
> I understand that there is a plan to pick up the pace,

Dennis,

Elecraft is a small company, and although they have been slowly adding 
people for several years as needed to support their growth, it takes 
time to work out the many details of putting a new product into 
production, and to building them more quickly and efficiently.  A little 
bird told me that while KX3s are still not "roaring" off the line,  
things are coming along nicely.

Relax, take a deep breath, and chill.  Our KX3s will arrive when they're 
ready.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 cursor position

2012-04-23 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

>> Good morning all, this morning turned on the K3, P3 and ext monitor
>> and noticed the frequency cursor was outside the green bandwidth
>> indicator. I tried to normalize, move the shift and width on the K3
>> but the cursor still stayed on the outside of the green bandwidth
>> indicator. I then shut everything down and restarted now the cursor
>> is within the green bandwidth but to the far right side?? Not sure
>> if I mucked around with settings and did this or if there is an
>> easy explanation as to why this is happening.

Sure, when you are in USB/LSB or DATA A the "cursor" indicates dial
(suppressed carrier) frequency while the "bandwidth area" represents
the audio passband.   If you have your passband defined with LO=1000
and HI=3000 (for example) the "cursor" will be 1 KHz outside the
"bandwidth" area.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 4/23/2012 9:04 AM, Mike Weir wrote:
>
> Good morning all, this morning turned on the K3, P3 and ext monitor and 
> noticed the frequency cursor was outside the green bandwidth indicator. I 
> tried to normalize, move the shift and width on the K3 but the cursor still 
> stayed on the outside of the green bandwidth indicator. I then shut 
> everything down and restarted now the cursor is within the green bandwidth 
> but to the far right side?? Not sure if I mucked around with settings and did 
> this or if there is an easy explanation as to why this is happening.
> Mike
> VE3WDM
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (4/22/12)

2012-04-23 Thread k5oai
correction
W5OAI Sam TX K3 4123 

W5OAI is actually K5OAI

73 & GB
K5OAI
Sam

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[Elecraft] P3 cursor position

2012-04-23 Thread Mike Weir

Good morning all, this morning turned on the K3, P3 and ext monitor and noticed 
the frequency cursor was outside the green bandwidth indicator. I tried to 
normalize, move the shift and width on the K3 but the cursor still stayed on 
the outside of the green bandwidth indicator. I then shut everything down and 
restarted now the cursor is within the green bandwidth but to the far right 
side?? Not sure if I mucked around with settings and did this or if there is an 
easy explanation as to why this is happening. 
Mike
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