Re: [Elecraft] OT: Distinguishable angular momentum in radio photons?

2012-05-03 Thread Erik Basilier
Oh, and the first thing I looked at was whether it was in the April issue.
It was not. Maybe the IEEE got it from another publication's April issue?

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Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Distinguishable angular momentum in radio photons?

The May 2012 issue of the IEEE Spectrum magazine reports that researchers in
Italy and Sweden were able to conduct two separate instances of radio
communication on the exact same frequency, without increasing bandwidth, and
without time-division multiplexing, be making the transmissions differ in
angular momentum. One transmission used linear polarization, and the other
was given angular momentum by means of a dish with a radial cut, where the
metal  was bent backwards/forwards on the two sides of the cut. Apparently
this is not just a case of linear vs circular polarization, as circular
polarization can be readily picked up by a linearly polarized antenna, and
apparently the two channels did not interfere with each other. The
researchers claim that this demonstration points to the possibility that the
radio photons can be given multiple, quanized levels of angular momentum,
making possible several more communication channels without increased
bandwidth. Other researchers say that this is just a form of MIMO. Wikipedia
describes MIMO as the technique of using multiple antennas as in diversity
reception or in gain increases obtained by phasing the antennas. 

 

My apologies if this is too far OT.

 

73,

Erik K7TV

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[Elecraft] OT: Distinguishable angular momentum in radio photons?

2012-05-03 Thread Erik Basilier
The May 2012 issue of the IEEE Spectrum magazine reports that researchers in
Italy and Sweden were able to conduct two separate instances of radio
communication on the exact same frequency, without increasing bandwidth, and
without time-division multiplexing, be making the transmissions differ in
angular momentum. One transmission used linear polarization, and the other
was given angular momentum by means of a dish with a radial cut, where the
metal  was bent backwards/forwards on the two sides of the cut. Apparently
this is not just a case of linear vs circular polarization, as circular
polarization can be readily picked up by a linearly polarized antenna, and
apparently the two channels did not interfere with each other. The
researchers claim that this demonstration points to the possibility that the
radio photons can be given multiple, quanized levels of angular momentum,
making possible several more communication channels without increased
bandwidth. Other researchers say that this is just a form of MIMO. Wikipedia
describes MIMO as the technique of using multiple antennas as in diversity
reception or in gain increases obtained by phasing the antennas. 

 

My apologies if this is too far OT.

 

73,

Erik K7TV

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3} CocoaModem & MacLoggerDX

2012-05-03 Thread Bill Frantz
I have been using cocoaModem for a couple of years now on 3 
separate rigs, including a K3. My favorite trick for not having 
it work is to forget to press the "activate" button in the 
Config dialog. Also be sure to set both the input and output 
codecs in that dialog.

I use a Signalink USB and am not familiar with the iMic dongle. 
However, you should see it in the dialogs as an alternative to 
"Built-in input/output".

When debugging these things, seeing any kind of audio input on 
the waterfall tells you that input is working. Hook up a 
microphone or play a CD/iPod etc and be sure you can see it. (If 
you can see the input you can also hear when you turn up the AF 
control on the radio, than that path should be working and you 
should be able to decode digital signals.

On output, it sounds like the output of the sound card isn't 
getting to the K3. Check the cable between the card and line-in 
on the K3. Also check that the multitude of K3 config settings 
are correct. (The manual is quite good for getting them right.) 
You should be in Data-A mode on the K3.

I have been using RumLog, but I don't have the interface to 
cocoaModem set up and just transfer the data with cut/paste. Two 
years ago, on a much slower mac, the automatic connection tended 
to freeze both of them requiring force-quit to recover, 
embarrassing during a QSO. I think a faster computer makes this 
problem much less likely.

Cheers - Bill, AE6JV


On 5/3/12 at 16:33, n...@nf4l.com (Mike) wrote:

>I'm shifting from a Win 'puter to a Mac. I'm trying to get CM 
>set up and not having a lot of luck.
>
>I have an iMic dongle. The sound card is putting out tones, but 
>I can't get the rig to key(VOX so far). It doesn't decode either.
>
>I'd like to get it working with MacLoggerDX or Rumlog.
>
>The integration seems to be better with RumLog, but that may be 
>my ignorance.
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[Elecraft] K3 Sold

2012-05-03 Thread Mike Short
Sold.
Thanks!
Mike
AI4NS

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3} CocoaModem & MacLoggerDX

2012-05-03 Thread Michael Schulz
If you use Maclogger DX and have cat control working, you can tell CM to key 
the radio via ML DX. 

73 Mike K5TRI



On May 3, 2012, at 6:33 PM, Mike  wrote:

> I'm shifting from a Win 'puter to a Mac. I'm trying to get CM set up and 
> not having a lot of luck.
> 
> I have an iMic dongle. The sound card is putting out tones, but I can't 
> get the rig to key(VOX so far). It doesn't decode either.
> 
> I'd like to get it working with MacLoggerDX or Rumlog.
> 
> The integration seems to be better with RumLog, but that may be my 
> ignorance.
> 
> ANy help greatly appreciated.
> 
> 73, Mike NF4L
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] question for psk users

2012-05-03 Thread david Moes
Its true that most modern rigs have  narrow filters for CW etc but most 
rigs use DSP in the final IF stage to do this. This narrow passband is 
not protected with narrow roofing filters.   look at the FT950,   AGC 
comes after the roofing filter and before the second and third IF.   the 
narrowest option for the roofing filter is 3Khz  and 20khz for the 
FT450A strong signal outside the dsp passband but still within the 
passband of the roofing filter will still knock out the week signals no 
matter how hard you try.   This holds true for many of the the rigs in 
the big three linup excluding some of the high end ones that most of us 
cant afford.one of the advantages of the K3 is its ability to use 
any roofing filter in any mode.  making it awsome for digital.   most of 
the other in its price range don't have this ability or even offer 
narrow roofing filters.

Not everyone can afford a K3 or FT5000mp   I consider myself lucky to 
have a K3.   before I had it  I often just shut down  as my older rig 
could not filter out that guy 400hz down bragging that he was running 
200W psk to the guy that just gave him a 599 ++ report.   yea it was 20 
years old and wouldnt let me use the CW filter in ssb.  It all boils 
down to the same thing.  operate with consideration  don't shout when 
you don't need to. you should operate the minimum power that is 
needed to maintain communications.
> On 5/2/2012 1:07 PM, David Moes wrote:
>   >  You are assuming that everyone has the luxury of narrow roofing
>   >  filters and can filter out the week and reject unwanted strong
>   >  signals.  most PSK stations are not blessed with a K3 and are not able
>   >  to suppress strong signals. before I had a K3 2.4 was the narrowes I
>   >  could do.   most afordable rigs today still stop at 3khz (FT950) and
>   >  some even wider.
>
> That's not true.  Every rig manufactured today provides a CW filter
> option that works very well for reducing/controlling the AGC blocking
> issue.  The FT-950 provides selectivity down to 500 Hz in its "PKT"
> modes as do many other "affordable" rigs.
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] FW: Windows4P3 Status

2012-05-03 Thread tomb18
I've managed to get recording of spectrum video with compression.  My first
try was giving 1GB per minute. I am now at 18mB for 1 minute.
This does require that one downloads fddshow and installs it on your system. 
Available in next release.


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Re: [Elecraft] P3: No workee - almost fixed

2012-05-03 Thread Matt Zilmer
Try the REF LVL control.

matt W6NIA


On Thu, 03 May 2012 22:50:23 +, you wrote:

>Well, more-or-less fixed.
>W4TV was the first to suggest setting all the RS-232 rates to 38400, and
>now the communications problem is fixed. Hooray!!
>Now to download the new firmware (it came with 1.13).
>
>One last problem:
>The IF display is off the bottom of the screen - I can only see the peaks
>of the stronger signals (and not 7O6T).
>I just did the IF output gain mod, and at one point the displayed spectrum
>rose above the baseline, but it's gone back down again. I don't seem to be
>able to find a setting that would change the 'vertical position' of the trace.
>While adjusting the "SCALE", the trace pops up for a second or so, then
>disappears back down again.
>
>Tnx for all your help.
>
>Ralph, VE7XF
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K7SVV Estate Sale--K2

2012-05-03 Thread Dyarnes
Hi all,

The K2 I listed on behalf of the estate has been sold, pending receipt of 
funds.  Thanks for the interest and inquiry.  I will have more stuff soon.

Dave W7AQK 

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[Elecraft] K3, KX3 case shoulder straps

2012-05-03 Thread Rose
I've just learned that -some- of the 1-1/2" wide shoulder
straps that I've shipped with K3 and KX3 cases were not
assembled correctly by the supplier, making them too
long for most users.

The "fix" is to first completely remove the rubber pad from
the strap.  It will only come off one end of strap, and this
is done by cocking the hook assembly so that it will slip
through the two slots in the ends of the pad.

With the pad removed, adjust the strap for the shortest
possible length ... about 50".  Re-thread the end -without-
the rectangular sliding buckle through the slots in the pad,
thus pulling -two- layers of the strap through the slots.
Re-adjust the length of the strap to suit.

Be sure you have the pad on the strap(s) so that the flat side
is facing inward and the adjustment buckle is facing outward
when the strap is in place on your shoulder.

I don't know how many straps have been sent with the pad
on the strap incorrectly, hence this posting to the reflector.
I apologize for the bandwidth.

73!
Rose - N7HKW
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[Elecraft] [K3} CocoaModem & MacLoggerDX

2012-05-03 Thread Mike
I'm shifting from a Win 'puter to a Mac. I'm trying to get CM set up and 
not having a lot of luck.

I have an iMic dongle. The sound card is putting out tones, but I can't 
get the rig to key(VOX so far). It doesn't decode either.

I'd like to get it working with MacLoggerDX or Rumlog.

The integration seems to be better with RumLog, but that may be my 
ignorance.

ANy help greatly appreciated.

73, Mike NF4L

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 utility on OSX

2012-05-03 Thread Mike
Thanks, Jack.

I think I'll leave it to a manual unzip too.

73, Mike NF4L

On 5/3/12 11:17 AM, Jack Brindle wrote:
> In Safari Preferences, look at the "General" pane. Checking "Open "safe" 
> files after downloading" will enable unzipping. Unfortunately it also enables 
> lots of other things. I leave mine unchecked to get the best security. Thus I 
> have to specifically unzip those files also. Better to be safe than sorry.
>
> Jack B, W6FB
>
>
>
> On May 2, 2012, at 8:14 AM, Mike wrote:
>
>> No auto un-zip in my Safari, if there's a setting I'm unaware of it. But
>> then I'm unaware of a lot of things.
>>
>> It does go to my Downloads folder.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On 5/2/12 9:28 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
>>> If you use Safari, it should automatically unzip it for you and place the 
>>> folder in whichever location you're using for Downloads (this may be 
>>> different in Lion or it may be some option of S/W I've got installed).
>>>
>>> There used to be a problem with downloading to the desktop (the default I 
>>> think) and I download to a 'Downloads' folder in my home directory.
>>> 73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108)
>>>
>>> On 2 May 2012, at 14:24, Mike wrote:
>>>
 Hi David,

 Yes Lion, all updated.

 Since the download is, as you note, a .zip, I have to un-zip it first, 
 which gives me the .app and the help folder.

 Yes, the download is K3UtilityOSX_1_12_3_28.zip

 Mike

 On 5/2/12 7:17 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
> Hmmm - I've had it running for some time with no problems - but I'm on 
> Snow Leopard, your presumably on Lion (10.7.x).
> Has anybody else done a clean install into Lion?
>
> It should just run, you shouldn't even have to unzip it, it should 
> download (assuming you used Safari), and you get a 
> 'K3UtilityOSX_1_12_3_28' folder with the Elecraft K3 Utility and the Help 
> folder, in it.
> You just run the Utility and you should get the dialog asking if you want 
> to run this for the first time (that comes from Apple OSX, not the app), 
> and then it pops the app.
>
> However, I didn't get a license agreement dialogue, but that might be 
> because I already have a copy. You did download the Mac version, from 
> http://www.elecraft.com/K3/software/K3UtilityOSX_1_12_3_28.zip ?
>
> 73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108)
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Re: [Elecraft] P3: No workee - almost fixed

2012-05-03 Thread Rowland R Johnson
Just to be sure; Did you try the Ref Lvl adjustment?

On 5/3/2012 3:50 PM, Ralph Parker wrote:
> Well, more-or-less fixed.
> W4TV was the first to suggest setting all the RS-232 rates to 38400, and
> now the communications problem is fixed. Hooray!!
> Now to download the new firmware (it came with 1.13).
>
> One last problem:
> The IF display is off the bottom of the screen - I can only see the peaks
> of the stronger signals (and not 7O6T).
> I just did the IF output gain mod, and at one point the displayed spectrum
> rose above the baseline, but it's gone back down again. I don't seem to be
> able to find a setting that would change the 'vertical position' of the trace.
> While adjusting the "SCALE", the trace pops up for a second or so, then
> disappears back down again.
>
> Tnx for all your help.
>
> Ralph, VE7XF
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Off list responses

2012-05-03 Thread Phil Kane
On 5/3/2012 1:43 PM, Kevin Cozens wrote:

> With Thunderbird (the program I'm using) and the way the list is
> now configured, hitting Reply to a message sends the reply only
> to the originator of a message. I have to hit Reply To List to
> have the reply go back to the mailing list.

  As contrasted to all the other lists/groups/forums that I read
  and reply to (a dozen or more), where hitting "Reply" in T-Bird
  sends it to the list/group/forum rather than to the individual.
  It gets frustrating, and contributes to my not posting as much
  as I want/should in this reflector because I start a reply,
  notice the undesired To: entry, and just dump it.   'Nuff said.

--  73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

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[Elecraft] P3: No workee - almost fixed

2012-05-03 Thread Ralph Parker
Well, more-or-less fixed.
W4TV was the first to suggest setting all the RS-232 rates to 38400, and
now the communications problem is fixed. Hooray!!
Now to download the new firmware (it came with 1.13).

One last problem:
The IF display is off the bottom of the screen - I can only see the peaks
of the stronger signals (and not 7O6T).
I just did the IF output gain mod, and at one point the displayed spectrum
rose above the baseline, but it's gone back down again. I don't seem to be
able to find a setting that would change the 'vertical position' of the trace.
While adjusting the "SCALE", the trace pops up for a second or so, then
disappears back down again.

Tnx for all your help.

Ralph, VE7XF

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Recommendations for Receiver Audio Equalisation

2012-05-03 Thread Fred Jensen
Joe alluded to it in his second paragraph, "experimenting."  Go slowly 
and in small increments.*  You need time to try out a new setting in 
varying conditions, and our brains need some time to adapt to the new 
sounds.  I was getting nowhere with it, often changing settings in the 
middle of a QSO and getting frustrated.  Jim, K9YC, finally told me to 
slow down, make a small change, try it out for a few days or a week.  I 
started to see improvement, and ended up with my CW and SSB settings 
after maybe a month or so.  The RX EQ really does do good things, you 
just can't go to the right settings for you in the first 5 minutes.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
- www.cqp.org

On 5/3/2012 11:31 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
> For SSB I set the lowest two bands to -16 and set the two highest
> bands for -2 (2.4) and -3 (3.6).  This gets rid of LF trash and
> takes the edge off of the hiss.
>
> I'm currently experimenting with the lowest two at -16, the next two
> flat, 1600 at +3, 2400 at -3 and 3600 at -6 to provide some boost to
> intelligibility (the +3 at 1600) and maintaining the hiss reduction.
>
> For CW I set the lowest two bands to -16, then next three bands flat
> and the top three to -6, -10, -12.  Leaving the middle three bands
> flat allows the full "width" of almost 1000 Hz for off frequency
> callers but still gets rid of low frequency trash and high frequency
> hiss

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[Elecraft] won't stop scanning

2012-05-03 Thread JWKIMBALL
 
My K3 started scanning the frequency all of a sudden and nothing I do will  
stop it from scanning down freq. I loaded latest updates. did a parameter  
initialization, restored to config from last year. Nothing helps. I want to 
take  on a trip in my rv this week. Can you help???
 
 
Jim
K5AUP
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Re: [Elecraft] P3: new unit no workee - addendum

2012-05-03 Thread Tom Azlin N4ZPT
I think the P3 to K3 needs to be 38400 bps as you can not change that 
part. While the P3 to your computer can be any slower speed - I use 
19,200 bps for computer to P3.

73, tom n4zpt

On 5/3/2012 4:43 PM, Ralph Parker wrote:
> I forgot to say that the RS-232 rate for K3, P3 and logging program are all
> set to 4800 baud.
>
> Ralph, VE7XF

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Re: [Elecraft] P3: new unit no workee

2012-05-03 Thread Alan Bloom
The P3 is supposed to auto-baud the K3 to figure out what baud rate it
is using and then reset it to 38,400 automatically.  However autobaud
was broken in P3 firmware versions 1.06 through 1.13.  Either upgrade to
1.15 or later or manually set the K3 to 38400 in the "RS232" config
menu.

Alan N1AL


On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 20:34 +, Ralph Parker wrote:
> New P3, assembled last night.
> Basic display is Ok - IF information from K3 gets to P3.
> Freq. info does not get from the K3 to the P3 (not displayed on center of
> screen or at MKR A:).
> Unable to switch to 'fixed-tune'.
> Freq. info does not pass through the P3 from K3 to logging program (via
> microHam).
> However, freq. info does pass from K3 to logging program if P3 power is off.
> Re-examination of cables inside P3 shows all OK.
> 
> I assume that the default menu functions should produce a working display.
> I need Fred's book.
> Meanwhile, any suggestions?
> 
> Ralph, VE7XF
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[Elecraft] K2/100 For Sale

2012-05-03 Thread Steve Dyer
This was a project that got set aside and just recently finished.

K2 base with all  updates and latest firmware (2.04 MCU and 1.09 IOC) 
S/N 2388
Includes K2ATOBKT, K2KEYMODKT, BFOMDKT, E850006, XFILMDKT
KPA100 - just built with latest mods KPA100UPKT and KPA100SHLDKT
KSB2 - just built with matching crystal set
KNB2
KAF2 - unbuilt
KDSP2 - unbuilt
KAT100-1 - just built

Just professionally aligned April 2012 by Don Wilhelm. He also installed 
the key click mod. Full doc upon request.

All manuals.

Radio is hardly used. Works perfectly.

Over $2000 spent on this radio.

$1349 well packaged shipping included.

Reply off list to w1...@arrl.net.

73,
Steve



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Re: [Elecraft] P3: new unit no workee - addendum

2012-05-03 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ralph,

Set all to 38,400.  Then use P3 Utility to download the latest P3 
firmware.  There was a recent update to fix the "multiple baud rates" 
problem.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/3/2012 4:43 PM, Ralph Parker wrote:
> I forgot to say that the RS-232 rate for K3, P3 and logging program are all
> set to 4800 baud.
>
> Ralph, VE7XF
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] WIndows4P3 Center mode questions

2012-05-03 Thread tomb18
Ok, but there is still a bug where the SVGA display and the P3 display do not
show the same things.  Thus I won't enable it just yet.


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Re: [Elecraft] WIndows4P3 Center mode questions

2012-05-03 Thread tomb18


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Re: [Elecraft] P3: new unit no workee

2012-05-03 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

> Freq. info does not pass through the P3 from K3 to logging program
> (via microHam).
> However, freq. info does pass from K3 to logging program if P3 power
> is off. Re-examination of cables inside P3 shows all OK.

Set the K3, P3, microHAM interface and your logger all for 38,400 bps.

The P3 sets (forces) data rate between it and the K3 to 38,400 and
defaults to 38,200 for data rate to the interface/logging software.
While you *can* use other speeds by setting the P3 "RS232" menu to
a different speed, operation an speeds other than 38,400 has shown
to be unreliable.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 5/3/2012 4:34 PM, Ralph Parker wrote:
> New P3, assembled last night.
> Basic display is Ok - IF information from K3 gets to P3.
> Freq. info does not get from the K3 to the P3 (not displayed on center of
> screen or at MKR A:).
> Unable to switch to 'fixed-tune'.
> Freq. info does not pass through the P3 from K3 to logging program (via
> microHam).
> However, freq. info does pass from K3 to logging program if P3 power is off.
> Re-examination of cables inside P3 shows all OK.
>
> I assume that the default menu functions should produce a working display.
> I need Fred's book.
> Meanwhile, any suggestions?
>
> Ralph, VE7XF
>
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Re: [Elecraft] WIndows4P3 Center mode questions

2012-05-03 Thread Adrian
Tom,  As the span is varied sometimes the center is not where you would like
it.
Working a dxpedition on cw at a 30 -40 kc span the center is adjusted to see
the balanced view of the tx and rx signals.
If the screen could be clicked or an indicator dragged to position with the
mouse etc, that would be cool.

Adrian ... vk4tux

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Subject: [Elecraft] WIndows4P3 Center mode questions

Hi,  I would like to get an idea of how people use the Center mode of the P3
and for what purpose.

Also I would like to know what the preference would be in implementing this
in the windows environment.  Would you like to have a trackbar to allow you
to slide the frequency up and down?  Or would it be better to just select
center mode and then use the mouse to point to where you would like it to
be?

Thanks for your help.
Tom VA2FSQ

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility for Mac

2012-05-03 Thread David Fleming
Hi Ray,

Any Intel-based Mac with OS X 10.4 or later. 1GB RAM minimum, 2GB recommended.

David, W4SMT

--- On Thu, 5/3/12, Ray Sills  wrote:

> Hi Gang:
> 
> Glad to see that there is one available.  What's the OS
> requirement?
> 
> 73 de Ray
> K2ULR

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Re: [Elecraft] Off list responses

2012-05-03 Thread Kevin Cozens
On 12-05-02 07:28 AM, Bill wrote:
> Yesterday I posed a question and received eight (8) email responses. I
> note that only one response was on the list. Is this the norm? I thought
> responses should be made on the list for all to learn from.

Responses to a mailing list message should go back to the mailing list 
unless the original message requested private reply or for some off-topic 
discussions.

With Thunderbird (the program I'm using) and the way the list is now 
configured, hitting Reply to a message sends the reply only to the 
originator of a message. I have to hit Reply To List to have the reply go 
back to the mailing list.

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[Elecraft] P3: new unit no workee - addendum

2012-05-03 Thread Ralph Parker
I forgot to say that the RS-232 rate for K3, P3 and logging program are all
set to 4800 baud.

Ralph, VE7XF
 
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[Elecraft] KX3 Utility for Mac

2012-05-03 Thread Ray Sills
Hi Gang:

Glad to see that there is one available.  What's the OS requirement?

73 de Ray
K2ULR
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[Elecraft] P3: new unit no workee

2012-05-03 Thread Ralph Parker
New P3, assembled last night.
Basic display is Ok - IF information from K3 gets to P3.
Freq. info does not get from the K3 to the P3 (not displayed on center of
screen or at MKR A:).
Unable to switch to 'fixed-tune'.
Freq. info does not pass through the P3 from K3 to logging program (via
microHam).
However, freq. info does pass from K3 to logging program if P3 power is off.
Re-examination of cables inside P3 shows all OK.

I assume that the default menu functions should produce a working display.
I need Fred's book.
Meanwhile, any suggestions?

Ralph, VE7XF

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Re: [Elecraft] K3-PSK/RTTY Question

2012-05-03 Thread Tom Azlin N4ZPT
Hi Bill,

Good deal on the order in!  As soon as they get past midnight then you 
should be close.

I have a whole handful of small transformers both from digikey and radio 
shack we got for club interface project. And bunches of optical coupled 
Darlingtons. And perfboard I used in the past. Also have a breadboard 
that just has three transformers ( for dual receive) with pairs of RCA 
connectors.

I first just connected the cables directly to my laptop but the 
hum/noise was not acceptable. Even pulled the AC cord on the laptop and 
ran on batteries. But then I expected that based on early interfaces for 
my other pre-K3 radios.

and back to the start of this thread. yes, the SignaLin-USB should be 
fine also. Especially if you happen to have one handy.

73, tom n4zpt

On 5/3/2012 3:35 PM, Bill Conkling wrote:
> Welll
>
> My KX3 is on the list, I'm near the top of Dec 28 (00:23:59) so I am not
> sure at this point.  I have a circuit board that has holes for a couple of
> iso transformers, and a pot.  Will prob put something together using it when
> it gets here.
>
> Anxious in Williamsburg,
>
> bill   nr4c
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Azlin N4ZPT [mailto:t...@n4zpt.org]
> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 12:49 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3-PSK/RTTY Question
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> For my K3 I do just as you say. A serial cable plus two audio cables
> connected to the line in/out of my computer sound card and my K3. Tossed
> my homebrew interface I used with my FT-1000 in the parts box.
>
> However my laptop does not have line in/out and so far the KX3 does not
> have line in/out. I get odd noise that looks like hum plus some scruff
> when I connect my KX3 directly to my laptop. It works but do not want to
> transmit the noise. So some sort of isolation and level adjusting is
> needed beyond just the computer sliders and KX3 mike gain and speaker
> level adjustment. Seems to me that is.
>
> So for my KX3 I just picked up the TRRS and TRS right angle connectors
> and plan to hook up one of my unterminated SL-USB cables ( short
> Ethernet cut in half) to play. Given the SL-USB is in my go kit anyway
> with my laptop.  May use one of the inexpensive interface boards I found
> on eBay with a couple transformers and transistor switch. Or just grab
> some resistors and audio isolation transformers out of my parts boxes,
> i.e. dust off my old interface board.
>
> So yes, with the KX3 seems an interface is needed. Was very happy to
> read that in the future a firmware update might include having the
> speaker out and microphone in be switched to line out and in for  the
> data modes.
>
> What do you use with your KX3???
>
> 73, tom n4zpt
>
>
> On 5/3/2012 9:32 AM, nr4c wrote:
>> Hi, Steve,
>> \
>> I really think the SL-USB is a real nice interface if you need an
>> interface.  But in my opinion, for the K3/KX3 it is over-kill.  I use
>> two stereo audio cables between the sound card and the K3 and it works
>> just fine.  The K3 is already buffered and isolated with transformers
>> (KX3 will not be).  Unless you need the sound card for computer sounds
>> and/or other audio uses, I'd just use the computer sound card.  PTT can
>> be handled via the serial CAT cable.
>>
>> bill  nr4c
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 03 May 2012 07:32:45 -0400, Steve wrote:
>>> Good Morning All,
>>> I have a K3 and am awaiting my KX3soon I hope...
>>> My question is that I am wanting to put the K3 on
>>> PSK and RTTY and I'm wondering if
>>> my choice of the Signalink USP  is a good choice
>>> for these modes with the K3 and hopefully the KX3
>>> Tnx es VY73'
>>> Steve W8CRH
>>> SEMPER FI

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[Elecraft] KX3 - Format of Pre-Shipping E-mail?

2012-05-03 Thread Bill Gerth
To Those Lucky KX3 Owners:

Since I receive several hundred e-mails per day from the Elecraft,  
KX3, CWops, etc. reflectors, it would be helpful to know what that  
hoped-for inbound e-mail message might look like that says that my KX3  
should ship in a few days.   I'd sure hate to miss it.

FROM ADDRESS = ?

SUBJECT LINE = ?

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

73,
BILL
W4RK



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Re: [Elecraft] K3-PSK/RTTY Question

2012-05-03 Thread Bill Conkling
Welll

My KX3 is on the list, I'm near the top of Dec 28 (00:23:59) so I am not
sure at this point.  I have a circuit board that has holes for a couple of
iso transformers, and a pot.  Will prob put something together using it when
it gets here.

Anxious in Williamsburg, 

bill   nr4c

-Original Message-
From: Tom Azlin N4ZPT [mailto:t...@n4zpt.org] 
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 12:49 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3-PSK/RTTY Question

Hi Bill,

For my K3 I do just as you say. A serial cable plus two audio cables 
connected to the line in/out of my computer sound card and my K3. Tossed 
my homebrew interface I used with my FT-1000 in the parts box.

However my laptop does not have line in/out and so far the KX3 does not 
have line in/out. I get odd noise that looks like hum plus some scruff 
when I connect my KX3 directly to my laptop. It works but do not want to 
transmit the noise. So some sort of isolation and level adjusting is 
needed beyond just the computer sliders and KX3 mike gain and speaker 
level adjustment. Seems to me that is.

So for my KX3 I just picked up the TRRS and TRS right angle connectors 
and plan to hook up one of my unterminated SL-USB cables ( short 
Ethernet cut in half) to play. Given the SL-USB is in my go kit anyway 
with my laptop.  May use one of the inexpensive interface boards I found 
on eBay with a couple transformers and transistor switch. Or just grab 
some resistors and audio isolation transformers out of my parts boxes, 
i.e. dust off my old interface board.

So yes, with the KX3 seems an interface is needed. Was very happy to 
read that in the future a firmware update might include having the 
speaker out and microphone in be switched to line out and in for  the 
data modes.

What do you use with your KX3???

73, tom n4zpt


On 5/3/2012 9:32 AM, nr4c wrote:
> Hi, Steve,
> \
> I really think the SL-USB is a real nice interface if you need an
> interface.  But in my opinion, for the K3/KX3 it is over-kill.  I use
> two stereo audio cables between the sound card and the K3 and it works
> just fine.  The K3 is already buffered and isolated with transformers
> (KX3 will not be).  Unless you need the sound card for computer sounds
> and/or other audio uses, I'd just use the computer sound card.  PTT can
> be handled via the serial CAT cable.
>
> bill  nr4c
>
>
> On Thu, 03 May 2012 07:32:45 -0400, Steve wrote:
>> Good Morning All,
>> I have a K3 and am awaiting my KX3soon I hope...
>> My question is that I am wanting to put the K3 on
>> PSK and RTTY and I'm wondering if
>> my choice of the Signalink USP  is a good choice
>> for these modes with the K3 and hopefully the KX3
>> Tnx es VY73'
>> Steve W8CRH
>> SEMPER FI
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Nova "Secrets of the Sun"

2012-05-03 Thread Stephen Prior
Arghh, not available in Europe!  Rights restrictions...  Would have been
ideal for one of my physics classes tomorrow.

73 Stephen G4SJP

On 3 May 2012 20:24, Bob  wrote:

> Off Topic I know, but this is too good not to share with my fellow
> Elecrafters as we head toward the peak of Solar Cycle 24.  This PBS/Nova
> Special, "Secrets of the Sun" has a great explanation of the workings of
> our sun, with great images provided by the new Solar Dynamics Observatory
> that launched two years ago.  As a ham I found this to be a fascinating
> explanation of what is going on with our closest star and it was being
> filmed during last year's February solar event.  You can watch this by
> clicking on the link below, or check your local PBS station for show times
> -- it is outstanding in HD.  (And if you really like it, the Blu-ray and
> DVDs are on sale.)
>
> http://video.pbs.org/video/2226474716
>
> My thanks to K1SEA for sharing this with me originally.
>
> 73, Bob, WB4SON
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[Elecraft] OT: Nova "Secrets of the Sun"

2012-05-03 Thread Bob
Off Topic I know, but this is too good not to share with my fellow
Elecrafters as we head toward the peak of Solar Cycle 24.  This PBS/Nova
Special, "Secrets of the Sun" has a great explanation of the workings of
our sun, with great images provided by the new Solar Dynamics Observatory
that launched two years ago.  As a ham I found this to be a fascinating
explanation of what is going on with our closest star and it was being
filmed during last year's February solar event.  You can watch this by
clicking on the link below, or check your local PBS station for show times
-- it is outstanding in HD.  (And if you really like it, the Blu-ray and
DVDs are on sale.)

http://video.pbs.org/video/2226474716

My thanks to K1SEA for sharing this with me originally.

73, Bob, WB4SON
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Recommendations for Receiver Audio Equalisation

2012-05-03 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

For SSB I set the lowest two bands to -16 and set the two highest
bands for -2 (2.4) and -3 (3.6).  This gets rid of LF trash and
takes the edge off of the hiss.

I'm currently experimenting with the lowest two at -16, the next two
flat, 1600 at +3, 2400 at -3 and 3600 at -6 to provide some boost to
intelligibility (the +3 at 1600) and maintaining the hiss reduction.

For CW I set the lowest two bands to -16, then next three bands flat
and the top three to -6, -10, -12.  Leaving the middle three bands
flat allows the full "width" of almost 1000 Hz for off frequency
callers but still gets rid of low frequency trash and high frequency
hiss


73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 5/3/2012 6:13 AM, Ray Spreadbury wrote:
> I wonder if there any recommendations for the initial settings to try for
> both the CW and SSB modes in the K3 ?


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Recommendations for Receiver Audio Equalisation

2012-05-03 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Ray,

You should be aware of something that affects CW RX Equalization. On very
narrow DSP widths the RX EQ is turned off. I believe it turns on at 150Hz
and wider and it is off for 50 and 100Hz. Because of this, you never want to
set any of the equalization values to a positive DB on CW. Only use zero or
negative values. Let's say your CW pitch is set to a value between 400 Hz
and 800 Hz and you set the 400 Hz and 800 Hz RX EX adjustments to +6db. Then
when you turn the DSP width to 100Hz or less you would notice a 6db decrease
in audio level.

73,
Mike K2MK


Ray G3XLG wrote
> 
> I wonder if there any recommendations for the initial settings to try for
> both the CW and SSB modes in the K3 ?
> 
> 73 de Ray G3XLG
> 


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Re: [Elecraft] Problem with Elecraft's built in 2 meter receiver

2012-05-03 Thread N5GE
Mr. Royster et al,

I hope other readers of this topic will not be influenced by your ill founded
post, because you are accusing Elecraft of having a poor product, when those of
us who use the internal 2m modules know it is not true.  

You are entitled to your opinion, but there is no solution to be found.  The
product is a good one.  Did you ask them to replace the module for you?  I'm
sure they will do it at no charge.

Having had a K3 with the internal 2m module since the first month they shipped
the modules, I have never experienced, nor have I heard of anyone saying they
were having the trouble you describe, except you.

I read your first post about your "Problem", and at the time I suspected you had
never used a transceiver with a VFO on 2m FM and don't know how tune an FM
signal with a VFO.  That is still my opinion.

Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
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On Thu, 03 May 2012 08:42:19 -0400, Larry Royster  wrote:

>Although Elecraft  personnel has been very helpful in trying to fix our  
>problem with 2 meter reception in our local repeaters, no solution has 
>been found. Until a solution is found, no one should purchase a K3 with 
>this option. Otherwise the K3 has been great up to now.

[snip]

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[Elecraft] Kaf2 anti ringing mod

2012-05-03 Thread William Schmidt

I have seen mention of an anti ringing modification for the kaf2 that was 
published several years ago by ki6wx.
Has anyone done this mod or know where I can find the details?  The link often 
mentioned no longer works.

Thanks,
Bill WV1N
  
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Re: [Elecraft] Off list responses [Thread closed]

2012-05-03 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
Guys, in the future, please self moderate and resist the urge to comment when a 
thread has a lot of replies like this.  Let's close it off now in the interest 
of improving list Signal to Noise Ratio.

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On May 3, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Michael Schulz  wrote:

> Nope, that's the beauty of it. You still only get the message once :) As
> you can see now.
> So Reply-all is a workaround but the Reply-To setting would be the more
> elegant and client
> independent solution. Thunderbird for example can recognize from the
> headers of a list email
> that it is a list and offers to reply to either list or sender.
> 
> 73 Mike K5TRI
> 
> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Jim Dunstan  wrote:
> 
>> At 09:22 AM 5/3/2012 -0500, Michael Schulz wrote:
>> 
>>> There's an easy fix for that :)
>>> 
>>> Short term: just hit Reply-all which will also put the list address in cc
>>> Long term: change the settings for the Reply-To: field in the mailman
>>> configuration (has to be done by
>>> the list owner) and all replies automatically go to the list.
>>> 
>>> 73 Mike K5TRI
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi Mike
>> 
>> I just hit Reply-all and you will read this message twice Hi Hi  once
>> directly and then on the list ... one of the few times I have used
>> Reply-all ... I'll have to remember that in the future.
>> 
>> Tnx
>> 
>> Jim, VE3CI
>> 
>> 
>>> I don't believe it is purposeful ... that is, the personal rather than
 public response.  Someone already noted that when they respond from
>>> their
 Email client it addresses to the individual rather than the public
>>> list.  I
 subscribe to a number of different lists and the reply from my Email
>>> client
 (Eudora) always goes to the public list  except for this one.  I
>>> have
 to remember to make the effort to substitute the list address instead of
 the that of the sender of the original post.  The way my email client is
 setup works with all other lists.
 
 No big deal ... just an observation.
 
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>>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Soliticing Comments on the P3

2012-05-03 Thread Tony Estep
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Arthur Burke  wrote:

> the DX in left ear, pileup in the right ear, tuning fairly quickly
> with the VFO B knob, watching..
>
==
I agree with all the comments in Art's previous post. I have CW Skimmer but
I rarely fire it up, not even in the case of the massive piles of 7O6T. In
this case Skimmer would probably be at its best, since the pileup doesn't
stop calling no matter what. The pan screen shows more or less the same
weed patch when the DX is transmitting, and when someone is working him, as
it does during the calling intervals. But even so, the pan picture plus
some guesswork can get you in the right place enough times to eventually
snag the guy, even with a peanut whistle in the RF-free zone. Without that
picture, it's pretty hard to guess where to go when the pile is 15 kc wide
with many hundreds of signals audible.

Tony KT0NY

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Recommendations for Receiver Audio Equalisation

2012-05-03 Thread Jim Brown
On 5/3/2012 6:13 AM, Ray Spreadbury wrote:
> I wonder if there any recommendations for the initial settings to try for
> both the CW and SSB modes in the K3 ?

I operate CW, SSB, and several digital modes. I find that I generally 
want to leave the RXEQ set flat in CW modes so that I hear off-frequency 
signals under contest conditions.  I generally roll off the lower two 
octave bands for SSB because those bands provide no contribution to 
intelligibility, and I leave the rest set flat.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Problem with Elecraft's built in 2 meter

2012-05-03 Thread Tom Azlin N4ZPT
Thanks Julie,

Strong and weak are then their audio levels?  Given that you are 
listening to the repeater output the RF carrier level should be the same 
for some that are fine and some that are clipping. Are all the ones 
clipping on the same repeater?  Perhaps then strong means loud means 
higher deviation but not so as to clip the repeater receiver since I 
presume the same talkers are fine on your 706. My 706 had pretty wide FM 
filters, something like 20-30 KHz wide. ( we used to have a local 
repeater that clipped with excessive input deviation.)

Using your panadapter are the ones that clip clearly wider than 13 KHz? 
Or offset?  Perhaps the repeaters being used by those talkers are older 
ones with wide filters that allow wide deviation input?

So is a puzzle. Strong and weak alike are fine on my K3 with internal 
transverter but my local repeaters are all on 15KHz centers and do not 
seem to be much wider than 13-15KHz on my P3 ( or my LP-PAN or SDR-I/Q ).

I am wondering then if you have a bad filter?

73, tom n4zpt

On 5/3/2012 10:31 AM, Julie Royster wrote:
> Larry K4MWE and I are hearing lots of distortion (clipping probably) on the
> K144XV tuned to local repeaters for anyone with strong signals.  Weak
> stations are OK.  Dale and Howard have made numerous suggestions but the
> problem appears to be that the FM filter is too narrow to allow some
> real-world repeaters to be received well.  In contrast, the same repeaters
> sound just fine on our old Icom 706.  We had hoped to be able to use the K3
> for all bands.
>
> Has anyone else had this problem?
>
> Would the external tranverter be any different or does it use the very same
> filter?
>
> 73, Julie KT4JR, wife of Larry K4MWE
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Re: [Elecraft] question for psk users

2012-05-03 Thread Jim Brown
On 5/3/2012 5:51 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> That's not true.  Every rig manufactured today provides a CW filter
> option that works very well for reducing/controlling the AGC blocking
> issue.  The FT-950 provides selectivity down to 500 Hz in its "PKT"
> modes as do many other "affordable" rigs.

Yes, but some rigs are more versatile than others, and some operators 
don't bother to learn enough about their radios to use the options that 
they provide.  Some rigs may not allow digital transmission at the 
frequency where that filter is centered, or may not allow it  to be 
switched in for SSB modes.  In other cases, the architecture of the rig 
may require that a different input of the radio be used for the digital 
modulation.  For example, I think I remember correctly that I had to 
feed the Patch input of my FT1000MP for AFSK to center it in my RX 
filters and for VOX to work. Or maybe it was the Packet input as you 
noted for the FT-950.  There's also the matter of learning to use all 
the controls on the radio to best advantage, including, as others have 
suggested, the RF gain control.  Back in the old days, AGC was rarely 
used on CW, we set AF gain to a suitable level and rode the RF gain 
control as needed, and switched in a crystal filter  to bring out the 
signal we were interested in.

One of the things about becoming a better operator is taking the time to 
learn these things. Those who choose not to do so will continue to be 
limited by their ignorance.

73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] OT: Hearing Aid Advice

2012-05-03 Thread Chuck Smallhouse
A big thanks to all who took the time away from speculating when they 
would win the KX3 lottery and receive their prize, to help me resolve 
my dilemma, and overcome my procrastination.

The response was tremendous both on and off the reflector, and I was 
greatly encouraged to learn of so many other hams with reduced 
hearing abilities that have successfully coped with this 
handicap.   I feel that I've met some new friends and allies from 
both far and near, although I doubt if any have convinced their 
doctors to prescribe, so that the DMV will issue them a "Handicap" 
parking permits for their vehicles, HI.

Several sent me articles and/or links with further information about 
hearing aid techniques and use.  Others have pointed out that COSTCO 
(a big box warehouse store, at least in the west) has very good price 
reductions for several name brands and models (including their 
own).   My wife has personally experienced their knowledgeable 
audiologists and good service.  So I presently have picked up their 
literature and brochures and made an appointment to see her "man".

Again Thank You, GL es 73,

Chuck,  W7CS



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Recommendations for Receiver Audio Equalisation

2012-05-03 Thread Bill
I am into armchair listening on 75 and 40 meters and use a Behringer 
audio mixer to a pair of Behringer Ms40 speakers. My EQ settings for RX 
are:  +3  +3  +9  +12  +6  +5  -16  -16

Bill W2BLC


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Re: [Elecraft] k1

2012-05-03 Thread Rick Lloyd
Ron,

I recently completed a K1 and mine drifts for the first minute or so..then is 
stable.

I wasn't surprised when it did. I just turn it on while I am getting things 
hooked up and arranged and by that time it's pretty much rock solid.

Rick
AA4W



Ron,

I would expect something of that nature to happen.
If you look at the specifications, drift in the first 5 minutes after 
power on is *not* specified.  It is less than 200 Hz per hour after that 
first 5 minute warm up.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/2/2012 3:26 PM, ron wrote:
> Does anyone experience slight drift (downward) in the first minutes
> (maybe up to 4 minutes) from power on?
> After that, the K1 appears stable.
>


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Re: [Elecraft] K3-PSK/RTTY Question

2012-05-03 Thread Tom Azlin N4ZPT
Hi Bill,

For my K3 I do just as you say. A serial cable plus two audio cables 
connected to the line in/out of my computer sound card and my K3. Tossed 
my homebrew interface I used with my FT-1000 in the parts box.

However my laptop does not have line in/out and so far the KX3 does not 
have line in/out. I get odd noise that looks like hum plus some scruff 
when I connect my KX3 directly to my laptop. It works but do not want to 
transmit the noise. So some sort of isolation and level adjusting is 
needed beyond just the computer sliders and KX3 mike gain and speaker 
level adjustment. Seems to me that is.

So for my KX3 I just picked up the TRRS and TRS right angle connectors 
and plan to hook up one of my unterminated SL-USB cables ( short 
Ethernet cut in half) to play. Given the SL-USB is in my go kit anyway 
with my laptop.  May use one of the inexpensive interface boards I found 
on eBay with a couple transformers and transistor switch. Or just grab 
some resistors and audio isolation transformers out of my parts boxes, 
i.e. dust off my old interface board.

So yes, with the KX3 seems an interface is needed. Was very happy to 
read that in the future a firmware update might include having the 
speaker out and microphone in be switched to line out and in for  the 
data modes.

What do you use with your KX3???

73, tom n4zpt


On 5/3/2012 9:32 AM, nr4c wrote:
> Hi, Steve,
> \
> I really think the SL-USB is a real nice interface if you need an
> interface.  But in my opinion, for the K3/KX3 it is over-kill.  I use
> two stereo audio cables between the sound card and the K3 and it works
> just fine.  The K3 is already buffered and isolated with transformers
> (KX3 will not be).  Unless you need the sound card for computer sounds
> and/or other audio uses, I'd just use the computer sound card.  PTT can
> be handled via the serial CAT cable.
>
> bill  nr4c
>
>
> On Thu, 03 May 2012 07:32:45 -0400, Steve wrote:
>> Good Morning All,
>> I have a K3 and am awaiting my KX3soon I hope...
>> My question is that I am wanting to put the K3 on
>> PSK and RTTY and I'm wondering if
>> my choice of the Signalink USP  is a good choice
>> for these modes with the K3 and hopefully the KX3
>> Tnx es VY73'
>> Steve W8CRH
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[Elecraft] Ham related items for sale

2012-05-03 Thread John Cooper
Have a KRM 0-130V Variac from Frys for $50. Heavy
Have a BK Precision 100mhz Counter. $25
Have a Ramsey DTMF tone decoder assembled kit. If a tone sounds over a repeater 
it displays the number or ABCD tag. $20
Have a Elecraft K2 Speaker in a small wood box with plug for the inside of a 
K2.  Instead of laying the K2 top beside it you just plug in this. $5
Have a Elenco Audio Generator 10Hz-1Mhz  Model SG-9200  $10
Have a Tektronix 2215 60Mhz Scope with 2 new probes with attachments.  Have 
printed out copy of manual.  $60

Prices do not include shipping.  Pics available upon request. Just thinning out 
the shack.  

Thanks for your time.

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Re: [Elecraft] Soliticing Comments on the P3

2012-05-03 Thread N8LP
That's funny, I heard that the K9 was gonna be a real DOG ;-) 
(cue rim shot)

73,
Larry N8LP





The Elecraft Electro-Wonder K9 will solve some of those problems. There's a
feature being developed on that rig that will identify the continuous
non-listening callers and send them a 36v jolt that will hopefully shock
them to their senses.

1984 has long come and gone and Big Brother is no longer watching the
pileup!

Art - N4PJ



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Re: [Elecraft] KAF2 or KDSP2 for K2?

2012-05-03 Thread Wayne Conrad
On 05/01/12 09:26, Stephen Roberts wrote:
 > Can any of you folks tell me the real life difference between these 
two options and whether or not either one of them is worth the expense?

If you live in the city, I wonder if you might prefer either the KDSP2 
or the KNB2 over the KAF2.  I live on a busy intersection in a big city, 
so 've got pulse noise more often than not.  The KNB2 takes it out 
pretty well.  I think the KDSP2 will deal with pulse noise, also, but 
the KAF2 alone won't do any more than dull the high frequency component 
of pulse noise.

Also (but this is probably just me), I find that the KAF2 blurs the 
edges of the dits and dahs, making signals harder to copy rather than 
easier.

Regards,
Wayne Conrad KF7QGA
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Recommendations for Receiver Audio Equalisation

2012-05-03 Thread Pierfrancesco Caci
> "Ray" == Ray Spreadbury  writes:


Ray> I wonder if there any recommendations for the initial settings to try 
for
Ray> both the CW and SSB modes in the K3 ?

I kept mine at the default for several months. So many new things to
learn that I preferred to concentrate on learning how to use a DSP radio
and all the other settings. 
Now have it set for a peak around 800 Hz for CW (i.e. the same as the
sidetone of my liking), and I'm experimenting the pink-noise setup that
someone else recommended for SSB. 


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Re: [Elecraft] Problem with Elecraft's built in 2 meter

2012-05-03 Thread Julie Royster
Hi David and thanks for your answer.  I don't think the repeater is doing
the clipping as the same signals sound fine on our Icom 706.  I think the
K144XV is doing the clipping.
Yes, we have checked the AGC and tried every possible setting for that.
Thanks,
Julie

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From: David Pratt [mailto:da...@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 10:47 AM
To: Julie Royster
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Problem with Elecraft's built in 2 meter

In a recent message, Julie Royster  writes
>Larry K4MWE and I are hearing lots of distortion (clipping probably) on 
>the K144XV tuned to local repeaters for anyone with strong signals.  
>Weak stations are OK.

Julie - What you say suggests that the strong signals going through the
repeater are the problem if the weaker ones are okay.  Perhaps those strong
stations are over-deviating and are hence being clipped by the repeater's
receiver.

The K3 is a precision transceiver so maybe the fault lies with remote
transmitters. I presume you have your AGC on the K3 correctly set.

No problems with 2 metre repeater use with my K144XV here, nor with
repeaters on 6 metres.

73/88

de David G4DMP

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Re: [Elecraft] Problem with Elecraft's built in 2 meter

2012-05-03 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
A defective FM filter for the K3 can be

1) Well off frequency and a loud station well into normal limiting will
"fill" the filter's skewed bandwidth, and present a badly distorted signal
to the following IF.
2) can have defective internal crystal mounts, or defective crystals.
 Being non-linear, these have been known to generate IMD all by themselves.

3) Not defective, but somehow the offset for the filter has been set to
some wild value, and that part of K3 setup utility needs redoing.

Call the support staff and get help.

73, Guy.

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Bruce Beford
wrote:

>
> > Would the external transverter be any different or does it use the very
> > same filter?
>
> The filter in question is part of the radio, not the transverter. So yes,
> it
> would use the same filter. You _may_ have a defective 13 KHz FM filter, or
> it is not configured properly, or the FM Deviation parameter is not set
> properly. I would imagine the Elecraft support team has gone through these
> various possibilities with you.
>
> In any event, it is NOT a design problem, or a widespread one. I am sure it
> can be resolved. As a last resort, you could send the radio to Elecraft to
> get it corrected.
>
> good luck,
> Bruce, N1RX
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 utility on OSX

2012-05-03 Thread Jack Brindle
In Safari Preferences, look at the "General" pane. Checking "Open "safe" files 
after downloading" will enable unzipping. Unfortunately it also enables lots of 
other things. I leave mine unchecked to get the best security. Thus I have to 
specifically unzip those files also. Better to be safe than sorry.

Jack B, W6FB



On May 2, 2012, at 8:14 AM, Mike wrote:

> No auto un-zip in my Safari, if there's a setting I'm unaware of it. But 
> then I'm unaware of a lot of things.
> 
> It does go to my Downloads folder.
> 
> Mike
> 
> On 5/2/12 9:28 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
>> If you use Safari, it should automatically unzip it for you and place the 
>> folder in whichever location you're using for Downloads (this may be 
>> different in Lion or it may be some option of S/W I've got installed).
>> 
>> There used to be a problem with downloading to the desktop (the default I 
>> think) and I download to a 'Downloads' folder in my home directory.
>> 73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108)
>> 
>> On 2 May 2012, at 14:24, Mike wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi David,
>>> 
>>> Yes Lion, all updated.
>>> 
>>> Since the download is, as you note, a .zip, I have to un-zip it first, 
>>> which gives me the .app and the help folder.
>>> 
>>> Yes, the download is K3UtilityOSX_1_12_3_28.zip
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> On 5/2/12 7:17 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
 Hmmm - I've had it running for some time with no problems - but I'm on 
 Snow Leopard, your presumably on Lion (10.7.x).
 Has anybody else done a clean install into Lion?
 
 It should just run, you shouldn't even have to unzip it, it should 
 download (assuming you used Safari), and you get a 
 'K3UtilityOSX_1_12_3_28' folder with the Elecraft K3 Utility and the Help 
 folder, in it.
 You just run the Utility and you should get the dialog asking if you want 
 to run this for the first time (that comes from Apple OSX, not the app), 
 and then it pops the app.
 
 However, I didn't get a license agreement dialogue, but that might be 
 because I already have a copy. You did download the Mac version, from 
 http://www.elecraft.com/K3/software/K3UtilityOSX_1_12_3_28.zip ?
 
 73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108)
>>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Hearing Aid Advice

2012-05-03 Thread James MacMillan
Hello all,

Thanks for sharing the Hearing Aid thread on the list.
It is one of my favorite topics where my techie interest crosses being
married to a teacher of the hearing handicapped.  It is great when your
spouse knows about decibels and is licensed too.

I was browsing for DSP, eq and related topics many months ago and dug this
out of the archives to share with you.  It is a presentation about "Using
Audio Equalizers to
Improve SSB Communications".  It won't replace a modern DSP hearing aid but
may be of value to some folks.

FT-817 owner watching the KX3 arena.
73
Jim
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Re: [Elecraft] Off list responses

2012-05-03 Thread Michael Schulz
Nope, that's the beauty of it. You still only get the message once :) As
you can see now.
So Reply-all is a workaround but the Reply-To setting would be the more
elegant and client
independent solution. Thunderbird for example can recognize from the
headers of a list email
that it is a list and offers to reply to either list or sender.

73 Mike K5TRI

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Jim Dunstan  wrote:

> At 09:22 AM 5/3/2012 -0500, Michael Schulz wrote:
>
>> There's an easy fix for that :)
>>
>> Short term: just hit Reply-all which will also put the list address in cc
>> Long term: change the settings for the Reply-To: field in the mailman
>> configuration (has to be done by
>> the list owner) and all replies automatically go to the list.
>>
>> 73 Mike K5TRI
>>
>
> Hi Mike
>
> I just hit Reply-all and you will read this message twice Hi Hi  once
> directly and then on the list ... one of the few times I have used
> Reply-all ... I'll have to remember that in the future.
>
> Tnx
>
>  Jim, VE3CI
>
>
>  > I don't believe it is purposeful ... that is, the personal rather than
>> > public response.  Someone already noted that when they respond from
>> their
>> > Email client it addresses to the individual rather than the public
>> list.  I
>> > subscribe to a number of different lists and the reply from my Email
>> client
>> > (Eudora) always goes to the public list  except for this one.  I
>> have
>> > to remember to make the effort to substitute the list address instead of
>> > the that of the sender of the original post.  The way my email client is
>> > setup works with all other lists.
>> >
>> > No big deal ... just an observation.
>> >
>> > Jim, VE3CI
>>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] k1

2012-05-03 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ron,

I would expect something of that nature to happen.
If you look at the specifications, drift in the first 5 minutes after 
power on is *not* specified.  It is less than 200 Hz per hour after that 
first 5 minute warm up.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/2/2012 3:26 PM, ron wrote:
> Does anyone experience slight drift (downward) in the first minutes
> (maybe up to 4 minutes) from power on?
> After that, the K1 appears stable.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Problem with Elecraft's built in 2 meter

2012-05-03 Thread David Pratt
In a recent message, Julie Royster  writes
>Larry K4MWE and I are hearing lots of distortion (clipping probably) on the
>K144XV tuned to local repeaters for anyone with strong signals.  Weak
>stations are OK.

Julie - What you say suggests that the strong signals going through the
repeater are the problem if the weaker ones are okay.  Perhaps those
strong stations are over-deviating and are hence being clipped by the
repeater's receiver.

The K3 is a precision transceiver so maybe the fault lies with remote
transmitters. I presume you have your AGC on the K3 correctly set.

No problems with 2 metre repeater use with my K144XV here, nor with
repeaters on 6 metres.

73/88

de David G4DMP

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Re: [Elecraft] Problem with Elecraft's built in 2 meter

2012-05-03 Thread Don Wilhelm
Julie,

It does sound like you may have a bad 13 kHz filter installed - that is 
only a guess.
Work with Elecraft support to get it resolved.

The external transverter will not help, I believe it has to do with your 
FM filtering, and that will not change whether the transverter is 
internal or external.

73,
Don W3FPR



On 5/3/2012 10:31 AM, Julie Royster wrote:
> Larry K4MWE and I are hearing lots of distortion (clipping probably) on the
> K144XV tuned to local repeaters for anyone with strong signals.  Weak
> stations are OK.  Dale and Howard have made numerous suggestions but the
> problem appears to be that the FM filter is too narrow to allow some
> real-world repeaters to be received well.  In contrast, the same repeaters
> sound just fine on our old Icom 706.  We had hoped to be able to use the K3
> for all bands.
>
> Has anyone else had this problem?
>
> Would the external tranverter be any different or does it use the very same
> filter?
>
> 73, Julie KT4JR, wife of Larry K4MWE
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Off list responses

2012-05-03 Thread Don Wilhelm
For all the mailman.qth lists I subscribe to Reply goes only to the 
sender, Reply all goes to the list and to the sender.

All the Yahoo groups (I hate that arrangement)  Reply goes to the list, 
you have to do Reply All and delete the list to send a personal comment.
Furthermore, with the Yahoo groups, there are some "links" at the bottom 
of the post that allow you to reply to the sender or to the list.  
Unfortunately, those links do not copy any of the prior text, so there 
is no "mind-jogger" to tell the public list reader what is being 
responded to.  If you do the email client Reply or Reply all and attempt 
to trim the prior text, you get a whole screenfull of garbage after what 
you tried to trim.

Give me the simple email list like we have here, and lobby to change 
Yahoo groups to be more like this list.
Do "Reply All" and delete the individual sender if the reply is public.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/3/2012 10:18 AM, Jim Dunstan wrote:
> At 02:13 PM 5/2/2012 -0700, you wrote:
>> Public responses to public questions is just good list etiquette.
>>
>> 73, Ron AC7AC
>>
>> -Original Message-
>>
>> Yesterday I posed a question and received eight (8) email responses. I note
>> that only one response was on the list. Is this the norm? I thought
>> responses should be made on the list for all to learn from.
>>
>> Bill W2BLC
> Hi,
>
> I don't believe it is purposeful ... that is, the personal rather than
> public response.  Someone already noted that when they respond from their
> Email client it addresses to the individual rather than the public list.  I
> subscribe to a number of different lists and the reply from my Email client
> (Eudora) always goes to the public list  except for this one.  I have
> to remember to make the effort to substitute the list address instead of
> the that of the sender of the original post.  The way my email client is
> setup works with all other lists.
>
> No big deal ... just an observation.
>
> Jim, VE3CI
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Off list responses

2012-05-03 Thread Jim Dunstan
At 09:22 AM 5/3/2012 -0500, Michael Schulz wrote:
>There's an easy fix for that :)
>
>Short term: just hit Reply-all which will also put the list address in cc
>Long term: change the settings for the Reply-To: field in the mailman
>configuration (has to be done by
>the list owner) and all replies automatically go to the list.
>
>73 Mike K5TRI

Hi Mike

I just hit Reply-all and you will read this message twice Hi Hi  once 
directly and then on the list ... one of the few times I have used 
Reply-all ... I'll have to remember that in the future.

Tnx

  Jim, VE3CI

> > I don't believe it is purposeful ... that is, the personal rather than
> > public response.  Someone already noted that when they respond from their
> > Email client it addresses to the individual rather than the public list.  I
> > subscribe to a number of different lists and the reply from my Email client
> > (Eudora) always goes to the public list  except for this one.  I have
> > to remember to make the effort to substitute the list address instead of
> > the that of the sender of the original post.  The way my email client is
> > setup works with all other lists.
> >
> > No big deal ... just an observation.
> >
> > Jim, VE3CI

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Re: [Elecraft] Problem with Elecraft's built in 2 meter

2012-05-03 Thread Bruce Beford

> Would the external transverter be any different or does it use the very 
> same filter?

The filter in question is part of the radio, not the transverter. So yes, it
would use the same filter. You _may_ have a defective 13 KHz FM filter, or
it is not configured properly, or the FM Deviation parameter is not set
properly. I would imagine the Elecraft support team has gone through these
various possibilities with you. 

In any event, it is NOT a design problem, or a widespread one. I am sure it
can be resolved. As a last resort, you could send the radio to Elecraft to
get it corrected.

good luck,
Bruce, N1RX




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Re: [Elecraft] WIndows4P3 Center mode questions

2012-05-03 Thread Arthur Burke
 P3 Tips for Fixed Tune or Track Mode
(courtesy of Mike, K2MK)

When you’re in Fixed-Tune mode you will find that sometimes the signal you
are interested in is close to one side or the other. By pressing the Center
button you can turn the knob and move the station back to the center. I
also found it useful when chasing a split DX to put the DX station’s signal
on the left side of the screen and looking at the pileup (up in frequency)
on the right side of the screen. The Center button is useful for this
purpose.

And another trick when in Fixed-Tune mode to get the signal back to the
middle of the screen: Set up a top row function key (FN1-FN4) that will
toggle between Fixed-Tune and Tracking modes. Then if the station you are
watching is not on center just press your function button twice. The first
press changes it to Tracking mode which will put the signal at screen
center. The second press changes it back to Fixed-Tune mode.

Using some of the above techniques (which helped me one day to discover my
P3 wasn't working properly and needed a firmware update!), I also found
that by running in the Fixed-Tune mode, you could "re-center" the cursor
very easily to one side or the other (using CENTER and turning the "SELECT"
knob appropriately).
Then as you tune across signal peaks (like during a RTTY contest), you can
sort of "step" your way across the band, 10 or 20 kHz with each pass.

One of the greatest benefits I personally derived from the above (reprinted
by courtesy and credit to Mike, K2MK), is making one of my "commands" on
the front buttons of the P3 the ability to toggle between Tracking and
Fixed-Tune mode - it tends to act like a "reset" button - a couple of quick
jabs to the button and the cursor is re-centered, but, because of the
second push, is still in the same mode as when I first pressed it.

Hope that makes sense - I had to play with it for a few minutes before it
became obvious what was going on.

Art - N4PJ



On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:49 AM, tomb18  wrote:

> Hi,  I would like to get an idea of how people use the Center mode of the
> P3
> and for what purpose.
>
> Also I would like to know what the preference would be in implementing this
> in the windows environment.  Would you like to have a trackbar to allow you
> to slide the frequency up and down?  Or would it be better to just select
> center mode and then use the mouse to point to where you would like it to
> be?
>
> Thanks for your help.
> Tom VA2FSQ
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Re: [Elecraft] Loading inductor Question

2012-05-03 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Ken,

When you do the research and math, worth bearing in mind that powdered iron 
(and ferrite) cores can generate intermodulation products.  Usually this 
problem will affect the "receive" performance of an antenna matching 
network, or a receiver's front end filters, if exposed to strong signals 
e.g. SW Broadcast.

The root cause of this IMD problem can be traced back to the magnetic flux 
generated in a core by the incoming signals.  The flux density is 
proportional to the applied voltage (vector sum of incoming signals), and 
inversely proportional  to the core's cross section (area), the number of 
turns and the frequency.  Thus the number of active turns should be as large 
as possible, the loaded Q of the network should be kept low, the core's mu 
low in value, and a large core used.

Sorry to be late with this comment.

73,

Geoff
LX2AO


On May 01, 2012 at 15:23 +0200, Ken Alexander wrote:


Many thanks for all the helpful responses! I do have many toroid cores in 
stock already but almost all are FT-50-xx and T-50-xx. I'll do the research 
and the math and give it a try when antenna building season arrives. It's 
still a little too cold and wet for that at the moment.

73 - Ken



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[Elecraft] Problem with Elecraft's built in 2 meter

2012-05-03 Thread Julie Royster
Larry K4MWE and I are hearing lots of distortion (clipping probably) on the
K144XV tuned to local repeaters for anyone with strong signals.  Weak
stations are OK.  Dale and Howard have made numerous suggestions but the
problem appears to be that the FM filter is too narrow to allow some
real-world repeaters to be received well.  In contrast, the same repeaters
sound just fine on our old Icom 706.  We had hoped to be able to use the K3
for all bands.

Has anyone else had this problem?

Would the external tranverter be any different or does it use the very same
filter?

73, Julie KT4JR, wife of Larry K4MWE

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Re: [Elecraft] Off list responses

2012-05-03 Thread Michael Schulz
There's an easy fix for that :)

Short term: just hit Reply-all which will also put the list address in cc
Long term: change the settings for the Reply-To: field in the mailman
configuration (has to be done by
the list owner) and all replies automatically go to the list.

73 Mike K5TRI

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Jim Dunstan  wrote:

> At 02:13 PM 5/2/2012 -0700, you wrote:
> >Public responses to public questions is just good list etiquette.
> >
> >73, Ron AC7AC
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >
> >Yesterday I posed a question and received eight (8) email responses. I
> note
> >that only one response was on the list. Is this the norm? I thought
> >responses should be made on the list for all to learn from.
> >
> >Bill W2BLC
>
> Hi,
>
> I don't believe it is purposeful ... that is, the personal rather than
> public response.  Someone already noted that when they respond from their
> Email client it addresses to the individual rather than the public list.  I
> subscribe to a number of different lists and the reply from my Email client
> (Eudora) always goes to the public list  except for this one.  I have
> to remember to make the effort to substitute the list address instead of
> the that of the sender of the original post.  The way my email client is
> setup works with all other lists.
>
> No big deal ... just an observation.
>
> Jim, VE3CI
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Soliticing Comments on the P3

2012-05-03 Thread Arthur Burke
There are many I've encountered who argue that Skimmer (including Reverse
Beacon Networks) is the best tool for the pileup. But it's also been
pointed out that newer technology has made it possible for the DX to work a
station 10.35 kHz up from where he's listening and within 12 nanoseconds
(quickly!) 40 other stations are zero beat with that frequency - and then
with all of them jammed on top of that same frequency, reading a single
call is virtually impossible, forcing the DX op to tune elsewhere.

This is not my opinion, this is a comment from G3TXF, an acknowledged
expert.

While one could *still* argue the merits of the Skimmer technology (and
I've been struggling to make mine work properly!), I've found great success
with my P3. I can't always immediately tell where the DX is currently
listening, but, with the SUB RX on, listening to the DX in left ear, pileup
in the right ear, tuning fairly quickly with the VFO B knob, watching the
P3, etc., I've followed the station through the pileup on numerous
occasions.

My personal "best reward" has been by using the P3 to identify "...where
they ain't..." and more or less camp out there until the DX stumbles across
me.

There are times when the pileup discipline is awesome - only the guy being
called responds - one could only wish this would happen more often! Then
the signal spike on the P3 leads one to the proverbial well. Unfortunately,
many, many times, the DX calls for "PJ?" and a bunch of guys with nothing
resembling a "P" or a "J" just keep right on calling. Then the pileup, like
life, becomes a little more difficult!

The Elecraft Electro-Wonder K9 will solve some of those problems. There's a
feature being developed on that rig that will identify the continuous
non-listening callers and send them a 36v jolt that will hopefully shock
them to their senses.

1984 has long come and gone and Big Brother is no longer watching the
pileup!

Art - N4PJ



On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Tony Estep  wrote:

> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:22 PM, W5RDW  wrote:
>
> > With 7O6T on the air for a few days, its usefulness really shines...
>
> 
> Definitely true. Without a panadaptor it would be really, really hard to
> track down his listening frequency. (Even with one it's hard in all that
> chaos.)  The pileups have been even wider than they were for ST0R. I worked
> him on CW 11 up on one band and 12 up on another, and the pile extended for
> many kc above that. I guess one thing that modern technology has made
> possible is bigger pileups.
>
> Tony KT0NY
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Re: [Elecraft] Off list responses

2012-05-03 Thread Jim Dunstan
At 02:13 PM 5/2/2012 -0700, you wrote:
>Public responses to public questions is just good list etiquette.
>
>73, Ron AC7AC
>
>-Original Message-
>
>Yesterday I posed a question and received eight (8) email responses. I note
>that only one response was on the list. Is this the norm? I thought
>responses should be made on the list for all to learn from.
>
>Bill W2BLC

Hi,

I don't believe it is purposeful ... that is, the personal rather than 
public response.  Someone already noted that when they respond from their 
Email client it addresses to the individual rather than the public list.  I 
subscribe to a number of different lists and the reply from my Email client 
(Eudora) always goes to the public list  except for this one.  I have 
to remember to make the effort to substitute the list address instead of 
the that of the sender of the original post.  The way my email client is 
setup works with all other lists.

No big deal ... just an observation.

Jim, VE3CI


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[Elecraft] WIndows4P3 Center mode questions

2012-05-03 Thread tomb18
Hi,  I would like to get an idea of how people use the Center mode of the P3
and for what purpose.

Also I would like to know what the preference would be in implementing this
in the windows environment.  Would you like to have a trackbar to allow you
to slide the frequency up and down?  Or would it be better to just select
center mode and then use the mouse to point to where you would like it to
be?

Thanks for your help.
Tom VA2FSQ

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Re: [Elecraft] Soliticing Comments on the P3

2012-05-03 Thread Tony Estep
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:22 PM, W5RDW  wrote:

> With 7O6T on the air for a few days, its usefulness really shines...


Definitely true. Without a panadaptor it would be really, really hard to
track down his listening frequency. (Even with one it's hard in all that
chaos.)  The pileups have been even wider than they were for ST0R. I worked
him on CW 11 up on one band and 12 up on another, and the pile extended for
many kc above that. I guess one thing that modern technology has made
possible is bigger pileups.

Tony KT0NY



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Re: [Elecraft] Not receiving posts

2012-05-03 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A
Yes,

there was a hick-up.

73
Arie PA3A


> I haven't received any posts since 8:46AM this morning.  I see many on the 
> QTH listing.  Anyone else?
> Monty K2DLJ
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Re: [Elecraft] K3-PSK/RTTY Question

2012-05-03 Thread nr4c
Hi, Steve,
\
I really think the SL-USB is a real nice interface if you need an 
interface.  But in my opinion, for the K3/KX3 it is over-kill.  I use 
two stereo audio cables between the sound card and the K3 and it works 
just fine.  The K3 is already buffered and isolated with transformers 
(KX3 will not be).  Unless you need the sound card for computer sounds 
and/or other audio uses, I'd just use the computer sound card.  PTT can 
be handled via the serial CAT cable.

bill  nr4c


On Thu, 03 May 2012 07:32:45 -0400, Steve wrote:
> Good Morning All,
> I have a K3 and am awaiting my KX3soon I hope...
> My question is that I am wanting to put the K3 on
> PSK and RTTY and I'm wondering if
> my choice of the Signalink USP  is a good choice
> for these modes with the K3 and hopefully the KX3
> Tnx es VY73'
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Re: [Elecraft] Problem with Elecraft's built in 2 meter receiver

2012-05-03 Thread Tom Azlin N4ZPT
Hi Larry,

Mine works fine with the local 2m repeaters. Based on my experience have 
been telling those in my area it is a good option. Plus I used it with a 
2m input transverter.

What is happening with your 2m transverter?

73, tom n4zpt

On 5/3/2012 8:42 AM, Larry Royster wrote:
> Although Elecraft  personnel has been very helpful in trying to fix our
> problem with 2 meter reception in our local repeaters, no solution has
> been found. Until a solution is found, no one should purchase a K3 with
> this option. Otherwise the K3 has been great up to now.

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Re: [Elecraft] Off list responses

2012-05-03 Thread Mike Harris
The legend on that particular button can vary with circumstances and you 
might need to select from a drop down list.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

On 03/05/2012 10:23, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Mozilla Thunderbird has a "Reply to List" which makes that easy.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 5/2/2012 9:14 AM, Adrian wrote:
>> Note: If you click reply at least with outlook, it will address to the
>> poster instead of the group address. I have to manually change it to the
>> group
>> in the to field.
>>
>> I can use reply all, and that sends to the poster and the group. It would be
>> good if the default reply goes to the group, Not sure if that can be
>> configured?
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Re: [Elecraft] Off list responses

2012-05-03 Thread Don Wilhelm
Mozilla Thunderbird has a "Reply to List" which makes that easy.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/2/2012 9:14 AM, Adrian wrote:
> Note: If you click reply at least with outlook, it will address to the
> poster instead of the group address. I have to manually change it to the
> group
> in the to field.
>
> I can use reply all, and that sends to the poster and the group. It would be
> good if the default reply goes to the group, Not sure if that can be
> configured?
>
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[Elecraft] KAT500 Isolation

2012-05-03 Thread Phil & Debbie Salas
Can anyone tell me what isolation I can expect between KAT500 antenna ports 
1-2, 1-3 and 2-3?

Thanks,
Phil - AD5X 

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Re: [Elecraft] KAF2 or KDSP2 for K2?

2012-05-03 Thread Andrew Moore
For most CW work, the K2 is fine without either, in my experience. I got
the KAF2 to give me an extra edge in tough conditions, QRP, etc. but most
of the time I just use XFIL1-4.  That's not to say the KAF2 isn't useful in
some conditions; I still love having it.

--Andrew, NV1B
..


On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 7:46 PM, John  wrote:

> One question I have about the choice between the KAF2 and KDSP2 is what
> about having neither.
>
> How would one describe the receiver/filter capabilities of the bare K2?
>
> Thanks.
>
> John, kx4o
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Off list responses

2012-05-03 Thread K2GN
Having run lists for a several organization, I found that the default of
"Reply to Sender" works best.
Why? Well, on more than one occasion, someone would "Reply to the group"
with comments directed at only the sender. This often resulted in someone
getting upset, most the originator of the message, but often others who
continue to reply to the group about the person who made the remarks.
So rather than the administrator have to deal with this, 
it is the standard that list operations use the "Reply only to sender".

Larry/K2GN - http://k2gn.com

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Elecraft K3
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:49 AM
To: Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Off list responses

Bill,

My mail browser by default replies to the sender only.  This is the only
list I subscribe to that has that default and I always forget that.

73 de Eric KG6MZS

On May 2, 2012, at 4:28 AM, Bill wrote:

> Yesterday I posed a question and received eight (8) email responses. I 
> note that only one response was on the list. Is this the norm? I 
> thought responses should be made on the list for all to learn from.
> 
> Bill W2BLC

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[Elecraft] K3 Recommendations for Receiver Audio Equalisation

2012-05-03 Thread Ray Spreadbury
I wonder if there any recommendations for the initial settings to try for
both the CW and SSB modes in the K3 ?

 

73 de Ray G3XLG

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Re: [Elecraft] Frequency Calibration

2012-05-03 Thread DGB
Thanks to all ... worked great.

73 Dwight NS9I

On 5/3/2012 7:24 AM, Mark Stennett wrote:
> WWV is a great signal generator.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SWRlTUG5RM
>
> -Original Message-
>   From: DGB
>   To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>   Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 05:43:37 -0500
>   Subject: [Elecraft] Frequency Calibration
>
>
> My K-3's frequency appears to be off. I didn't notice it until I worked
>   a couple of locals on our net freq. of 28.355 and had to use the RIt to
>   tune them to my freq.
>
>   Zero-beating WWV at 10khz actually reads 9.999.6.
>
>   The rig had been on most the day and I did try Method 2 (zero beating)
>   on page 50 of the manual but didn't seem to make much of a difference.
>
>   Is there a way to calibrate K-3  without a signal generator.
>
>   73 Dwight NS9I
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Re: [Elecraft] Frequency Calibration

2012-05-03 Thread drewko
A 400 Hz difference is way off! 

Method-2 works, no problem. I set mine months ago and it is still
within a few Hz of WWV. Make sure you are doing the zero beating with
the RIT off. 

FWIW, my ref osc is at 49.379.918. (Not sure how much that figure
might vary from unit to unit...)

73,
Drew
AF2Z


On Thu, 03 May 2012 05:43:37 -0500, Dwight NS9I wrote:

>My K-3's frequency appears to be off. I didn't notice it until I worked 
>a couple of locals on our net freq. of 28.355 and had to use the RIt to 
>tune them to my freq.
>
>Zero-beating WWV at 10khz actually reads 9.999.6.
>
>The rig had been on most the day and I did try Method 2 (zero beating) 
>on page 50 of the manual but didn't seem to make much of a difference.
>
>Is there a way to calibrate K-3  without a signal generator.
>
>73 Dwight NS9I

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Re: [Elecraft] question for psk users

2012-05-03 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

On 5/2/2012 1:07 PM, David Moes wrote:
 > You are assuming that everyone has the luxury of narrow roofing
 > filters and can filter out the week and reject unwanted strong
 > signals.  most PSK stations are not blessed with a K3 and are not able
 > to suppress strong signals. before I had a K3 2.4 was the narrowes I
 > could do.   most afordable rigs today still stop at 3khz (FT950) and
 > some even wider.

That's not true.  Every rig manufactured today provides a CW filter
option that works very well for reducing/controlling the AGC blocking
issue.  The FT-950 provides selectivity down to 500 Hz in its "PKT"
modes as do many other "affordable" rigs.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 5/2/2012 1:07 PM, David Moes wrote:
> You are assuming that everyone has the luxury of narrow roofing
> filters and can filter out the week and reject unwanted strong
> signals.  most PSK stations are not blessed with a K3 and are not able
> to suppress strong signals. before I had a K3 2.4 was the narrowes I
> could do.   most afordable rigs today still stop at 3khz (FT950) and
> some even wider.  You should use as little power as possible to
> conduct your QSO.   where I come from that is the law.   using high
> power to conduct a PSK31 qso is rarely necessary.  most other PSK
> users are running less than 30 W and if you can hear them you probably
> don't need 100+ watts to talk back.I agree that it is needed in
> some cases but one should only shout when you need to and talk normal
> or even whisper if you can.
>
>
>
> David Moes
> VE3DVY
>
>>
>> The reason why a strong signal will "annihilate all the other PSK
>> signals" is that most users are trying to receive an entire 2.5kHz
>> bandwidth in one gulp. This means that even one strong signal within
>> that bandwidth will activate the AGC and drive all the other signals
>> down.
>>
>> Regrettably most PSK users don't understand what is happening, so they
>> have to rationalize it into simpler terms like "It's a crime to be
>> loud."
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Re: [Elecraft] Problem with Elecraft's built in 2 meter receiver

2012-05-03 Thread Bruce Beford
I have had no problems with the internal 2M transverter for the K3. It works
fine for my local FM repeaters.

Bruce, N1RX

 

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[Elecraft] Problem with Elecraft's built in 2 meter receiver

2012-05-03 Thread Larry Royster
Although Elecraft  personnel has been very helpful in trying to fix our  
problem with 2 meter reception in our local repeaters, no solution has 
been found. Until a solution is found, no one should purchase a K3 with 
this option. Otherwise the K3 has been great up to now.
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Re: [Elecraft] Frequency Calibration

2012-05-03 Thread Mark Stennett
WWV is a great signal generator.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SWRlTUG5RM

-Original Message-
 From: DGB 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 05:43:37 -0500
 Subject: [Elecraft] Frequency Calibration


My K-3's frequency appears to be off. I didn't notice it until I worked
 a couple of locals on our net freq. of 28.355 and had to use the RIt to
 tune them to my freq.

 Zero-beating WWV at 10khz actually reads 9.999.6.

 The rig had been on most the day and I did try Method 2 (zero beating)
 on page 50 of the manual but didn't seem to make much of a difference.

 Is there a way to calibrate K-3  without a signal generator.

 73 Dwight NS9I
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Re: [Elecraft] K3-PSK/RTTY Question

2012-05-03 Thread John Ragle
Steve...

 Although some argue that adjuncts like the SignaLink are not 
needed. I have used SignaLinks on a K2, an ICOM 910H, and now my 
K3/100+P3. I am very pleased with the way in which it gives me that 
extra little degree of control, and in particular in the way in which it 
enhances FLDIGI/FLRIG for both RTTYand PSK of all speeds. For $67 it has 
been worth every nickel of the price, especially vis-a-vis the costs of 
the other parts of my HF station.

 I run FLDIGI/FLRIG and the screen-captured P3 screen on one of my 
two monitors, which leaves the other one free for any other need. On the 
various PSK speeds, I run at 25 watts on the K3, and on RTTY I move the 
output up to 75-80 watts. If I want to run CW, I just shut down FLDIGI 
(it is not a sterling performer on CW) and run without a decoder. Even 
on my forays into SSB (usually on VHF or UHF, where I run >350 watts) I 
leave FLRIG running, as it gives very nice semi-remote access to many of 
the K3 parameters, but that has little to do with the "issue" of using a 
SignaLink.

John Ragle -- W1ZI

=

On 5/3/2012 7:32 AM, Steve wrote:
> Good Morning All,
> I have a K3 and am awaiting my KX3soon I hope...
> My question is that I am wanting to put the K3 on
> PSK and RTTY and I'm wondering if
> my choice of the Signalink USP  is a good choice
> for these modes with the K3 and hopefully the KX3
> Tnx es VY73'
> Steve W8CRH
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Re: [Elecraft] Soliticing Comments on the P3

2012-05-03 Thread Mike Markowski
At work we have a 2 or 3 decade old Watkins Johnson receiver with a panadapter. 
Original price tag: $20k.  Granted, that wasn't just because of a built in
panadapter but the P3 puts it to shame.  Technology is cruising along!

73,
Mike ab3ap

On 05/03/2012 07:06 AM, Arthur Burke wrote:
> [...]
>
> Can't believe I operated all these years without some kind of panadapter!
>
> Art - N4PJ
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[Elecraft] KAF2 or KDSP2 for K2?

2012-05-03 Thread Johnny Siu
Hello John,
 
From time to time, there are used KAF2 available for sale in this reflector at 
a much lower price.  I got mine at US$49.
 
I don't like the KDSP2.  The artifact of the sound is just annoying to me.    
This topic was well discussed in the past and you can find it from the archive. 

TNX & 73,


Johnny VR2XMC

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主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] KAF2 or KDSP2 for K2?

Thanks to everyone for the comments and thoughts.

I'll start with the bare K2 (I really don't have a choice at the moment) 
and see how it goes.

Later I will refer to your comments again in the archives for the next step.

73
John, kx4o

On 5/2/12 8:45 AM, Mike Harris wrote:
> In my opinion the KAF2 is essential.  The always in-line low pass filter
> significantly reduces the high frequency audio hiss and makes SSB in
> particular much nicer to listen to.  Assuming that your hearing extends
> above 3kHz.
>
> Note that there is a daughter board add on for earlier versions of the
> K3 which does the same thing.  This filter was incorporated into the DSP
> board in a later revision.  See the Elecraft web site for info.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike VP8NO
>
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[Elecraft] K3-PSK/RTTY Question

2012-05-03 Thread Steve
Good Morning All,
I have a K3 and am awaiting my KX3soon I hope...
My question is that I am wanting to put the K3 on 
PSK and RTTY and I'm wondering if
my choice of the Signalink USP  is a good choice 
for these modes with the K3 and hopefully the KX3
Tnx es VY73'
Steve W8CRH
SEMPER FI
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Re: [Elecraft] Soliticing Comments on the P3

2012-05-03 Thread Arthur Burke
My P3 is new enough that I'm learning more and more about it as well.

In chasing 7O6T I too have found my P3 valuable. A couple of days ago, 7O6T
was on 12 CW and the signal was wy down in the mud. The P3 didn't do
diddly to help me identify where "the pack" was spread out.

I came within a gnat's heinie of querying the group to see why the
sensitivity on 12 seemed to be so low. Then, later that evening (I did get
through to them on 12 CW by the way!), I was sitting there, staring at the
front of the P3. I remembered futzing with a number of the controls the
first few days I had it. My first change was probably to make the scale
read in "S-units" (it still needs to be calibrated, but it gives me the
warm fuzzies and besides, it's all relative).

Then I realized what I probably needed was REF LVL. Pressed the button for
that function and went into a strange mode - that mode is known as the
"...the heck with the directions, just push some buttons, twirl some knobs
and see what happens!" mode. The REF LVL was *exactly* what I was looking
for. I moved mine down so that S2 was pretty much on the bottom. S9 is off
the top of the screen at the moment, but I figure if they're S5 or S6
they're going to be reasonably loud anyway.

Can't believe I operated all these years without some kind of panadapter!

Art - N4PJ



On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:22 PM, W5RDW  wrote:

> I have had the P3 long enough to really appreciate it. With 7O6T on the air
> for a few days, its usefulness really shines for CW. At first, I was not
> use
> to combating so many signals at once calling a station! What a huge pileup!
>
> Somewhat by accident, I have found the "magic" button to greatly increase
> my
> chances in finding the station being called: the AVERAGE function. By
> adjusting the AVERAGE setting to 8 or so slows down the action enough to
> make spotting the station he is calling much easier to find. It took only 2
> calls on 20 meters earlier and 15 meters was maybe 5 minutes calling and
> hunting.
>
> The propagation today has been very good on 15 /17/20 meters and the signal
> density was impressive as seen on the P3! If you have never heard your call
> sent at speeds greater than 30 wpm, the 20 meter ops have been putting on a
> show the last few days.
>
> -
> Roger W5RDW
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Re: [Elecraft] Off list responses

2012-05-03 Thread Mike
Many e-mail clients have the option of customizing the toolbar(s). Try 
right clicking on it and see if you get a menu with more buttons.

73, Mike NF4L

On 5/2/12 9:14 AM, Adrian wrote:
> Note: If you click reply at least with outlook, it will address to the
> poster instead of the group address. I have to manually change it to the
> group
> in the to field.
>
> I can use reply all, and that sends to the poster and the group. It would be
> good if the default reply goes to the group, Not sure if that can be
> configured?
>
> Adrian ... vk4tux
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Arthur Burke
> Sent: Wednesday, 2 May 2012 10:06 PM
> To: Bill
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Off list responses
>
> Absolutely! It's selfish to come to *any* forum, ask for help and
> specifically request that answers be provided offline. That said, there are
> a number of responses I get offline as well, but many of them are either
> private, semi-private, or responses from those individuals to whom I had
> sent something in a similar manner.
>
> It's only fair to post answers here where *everyone* can see them. I'm not a
> shy person (I'm the only one in my family who has any modesty ha ha joke
> joke!) and I tend to speak up (even when I shouldn't!), but there are many
> who are less voluble than I. They may be too shy to ask the same question
> that was asked and they, too, want to know the answer.
>
> My other pet peeve? The guys who want all the previous BS deleted because
> they have a 1200 baud modem and it takes too long to get it. Then,
> consequently, some kind soul strips the dadgum (insert stronger expletive
> here) thing to the point where you have no idea what the original question
> was!
>
> Other than that, this is day # (fill in the blank) of awaiting my new KX3.
> Been chasing 7O6T in the meantime - fun stuff!
>
> Art - N4PJ
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Bill  wrote:
>
>> Yesterday I posed a question and received eight (8) email responses. I
>> note that only one response was on the list. Is this the norm? I
>> thought responses should be made on the list for all to learn from.
>>
>> Bill W2BLC
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Re: [Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients

2012-05-03 Thread Fred Smith
If I might add on other very good speaker choice they are Bendix/King
originally King Radio aircraft radios and radar they have a speaker about
the same size as the Motorola speaker and mount. Excellent audio and
response meant for communications use. I found several new ones recently at
a hamfest in boxes for $25 each only bought 2 should have bought more.

73,
Fred/N0AZZ

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Randy Farmer
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:02 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients

At the risk of resurrecting the "Speakers" thread, my experience is that
I've never been able to make any full range speaker, powered or otherwise,
sound acceptable on any amateur rig. No matter what I try, I keep returning
to my trusty pair of unpowered Motorola 2 way radio speakers. The Moto guys
knew what they were doing when they wrote the specs for those.

Just for clarification, I was making an observation,  not complaining, about
the power transient. Just like with any number of cheap stereo amps I had
before I got my good ones, I make it a practice to turn the amp off/down
before powering the K3 on or off. Works for me.

73...
Randy, W8FN

On 05/02/2012 05:23, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
> Probably of more consequence in the powered speakers is that they all 
> are targeted at music use on PC's.  They are in tiny enclosures and 
> have a huge bass pre-emphasis to keep them from sounding "tinny".  The 
> pre-emphasis will increase with increasingly lower frequency, likely 
> meaning that something with components around 5-20 Hz at the amplitude 
> of turn-on pops is hugely emphasized.
>
> 73, Guy
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[Elecraft] Frequency Calibration

2012-05-03 Thread DGB
My K-3's frequency appears to be off. I didn't notice it until I worked 
a couple of locals on our net freq. of 28.355 and had to use the RIt to 
tune them to my freq.

Zero-beating WWV at 10khz actually reads 9.999.6.

The rig had been on most the day and I did try Method 2 (zero beating) 
on page 50 of the manual but didn't seem to make much of a difference.

Is there a way to calibrate K-3  without a signal generator.

73 Dwight NS9I
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Re: [Elecraft] Off list responses

2012-05-03 Thread W2RU - Bud Hippisley
Every mail program I've used on PCs or Macs in the past decade has EASILY 
provided the user the option of "Reply" and "Reply All".  On my Mac's "Mail" 
program, they're EQUALLY available and right next to each other, so it is only 
a matter of YOU DECIDING which one you want. Far, far easier than the amateur 
radio license exam you had to take at some point.  Perhaps those having trouble 
accessing the "Reply All" feature on their e-mail programs should consider 
finding a different program.

 If you change "Reply" on this reflector to mean "Reply All", replying to a 
single individual becomes a whole lot more difficult — and circumvents the 
flexibility built into modern e-mail clients.

Changing the meaning of "Reply" to "Reply All" is akin to making the "A/B" 
button on the K3 do the same thing as the "A->B" button and eliminating the 
"A/B" function from easy access; pray tell, what is the sense of having TWO 
buttons that do the SAME thing?

Also, I don't think it's the role of anyone on a reflector to suggest to other 
participants that it's not "ethical" to respond to the original poster off 
line.  If, for instance, a poster has offered up a rig or list of equipment for 
sale, s/he has created a competitive opportunity and I don't believe that my 
response with an offer to buy any of that equipment is anyone else's business 
but mine and the seller's.

There are many reasons for choosing to reply only to the original poster; 
please don't tell me they're not valid for me.   I'd like the opportunity to 
make my own decisions about that. 

Bud, W2RU


On May 2, 2012, at 9:14 AM, Adrian wrote:

> Note: If you click reply at least with outlook, it will address to the
> poster instead of the group address. I have to manually change it to the
> group
> in the to field.
> 
> I can use reply all, and that sends to the poster and the group. It would be
> good if the default reply goes to the group, Not sure if that can be
> configured?
> 
> Adrian ... vk4tux
> 
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[Elecraft] Sat or eme with k3?

2012-05-03 Thread Jim Miller
Is there any sites or reflectors where folks discuss sat or eme that are using 
k3?

Thanks

Jim ab3cv
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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft email list

2012-05-03 Thread Tony Read

Hi is the email list down?
Tony 

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Re: [Elecraft] Off list responses

2012-05-03 Thread John_N1JM
The thing is, this list is set up so that when hit reply, it replies to the
author only. You need to reply to all for it to go to the reflector/list. A
lot of people forget that and so many replies go to the author only. Other
mailing lists are the other way around. I guess it depends on the preference
of the moderator. There are advantages/disadvantages of doing it either way.

73, John N1JM

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[Elecraft] test

2012-05-03 Thread John Cooper
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[Elecraft] K7SVV Estate Sale

2012-05-03 Thread Dyarnes
Hi All,

First rig to sell is a K2.  This is a relatively late model (serial # 5K+). 
It is the QRP version, and has the SSB option and 160 meter option.  I also 
have the ATU option, but it is not installed--it does come with the rig, 
however.  NOT a difficult add-on.

I checked the radio out today, and it works super FB.  Neat, clean, and 
assembled by a guy who was fastidious!  He was an IBM tech, so that might 
give you some comfort.  I looked hard, but found no issues.  Not surprising, 
though, since this guy loved to build stuff, but didn't use them much. 
Anyway, I think it's a good buy, and if I didn't already have two K2's, I'd 
buy it myself!

List for what he had in it is around $1100+.  I think a more than fair price 
for this rig is $675 plus shipping.

Let me know if you are interested.

Dave W7AQK


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