[Elecraft] Sub RX Filters choice

2012-12-18 Thread mm0gpz
Hi.

My K3 has a standard 2.7 Khz ssb filter, a narrow 2.1 Khz ssb filter and a
400 hz cw filter.


I am planning to purchase the sub RX KRX3 and would like some filter advice
please. I am much more interested in CW.

Do I have to match up all these filters on the Sub RX for diversity? I know
the 2.7 Khz is standard but for diversity I seem to remember reading the
same filters should be in place? I also seem to recall that the filters are
not cascaded so in essence, only one filter is in line at a time. So if I
purchase only the 400 hz filter for the sub RX, it diversity reception will
work fine as long as the 400 hz filter is selected for CW or SSB will be
fine between  2100 and 2700?

What would happen if I engaged the 2.1 SSB filter in main RX and I don't
have same filter in Sub RX.

Thanks for your time.


Gordon
MM0GPZ
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[Elecraft] [K3] SO2V?

2012-12-18 Thread Richard Ferch

Jim,

I use SO2V in contests with my K3, both unassisted and assisted. My hot 
tip would be to familiarize yourself with the actions of the ` key and 
Ctrl+Shift+Up/Down arrow keys in N1MM Logger.


My comments on using SO2V with N1MM Logger are at 
http://n1mm.hamdocs.com/tiki-index.php?page=SO2V#More_advice_on_using_SO2V_-_from_VE3KI. 
Also, look at 
http://n1mm.hamdocs.com/tiki-index.php?page=Supported+Radios#K3 for 
keystrokes and other information specific to the K3. If you are 
operating assisted (with the RBN, for example), the Available Mults and 
Qs window 
(http://n1mm.hamdocs.com/tiki-index.php?page=Available+Mults+and+Qs+Windowstructure=N1MM+Logger+Documentation) 
is useful. There are some mouse-click options in this window that are 
specific to SO2V, and even without the mouse this window is important 
for making decisions like when to use the second RX on the current band 
vs. switching to a new band.


73,
Rich VE3KI


Jim Miller wrote:


I've been looking at the N1MM docs on SO2V wrt the K3. Anyone here contest
in that fashion? FWIW, I'm mostly interested in CW and assisted with RBN
spots.

Any hot tips?

jim


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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] SO2V?

2012-12-18 Thread John K3TN
Hi, Jim - I do SO2V with my K3 and subRX, with N1MM and RBN spots quite
often. My station is not competitive - single wire, KPA500. So, my
strategies are to maximize my rate and a big part of that is avoiding
calling when louder stations will likely beat me. The rates are pretty
amazing - it is more like running but instead of hitting F1 you are clicking
on spots.

Here are some ideas:

1. I use VE7CC's AR software to create filters for RBN spots that limit what
I see to nearby skimmers. In my case that means only those in MD, PA, VA and
WV. That keeps my bandmap full without overloading things with spots I won't
likely hear.

2. I created a macro to swap VFOA and VFOB, but you can also use ALT F10.

3. Learn how to use the `, \ and PAUSE keys - look  here
http://n1mm.hamdocs.com/tiki-index.php?page=SO2V  . 

4. Learn how to use the Available Mult/Q window - look  here
http://n1mm.hamdocs.com/tiki-index.php?page=Available+Mults+and+Qs+Window 
. Set that window to only show spots appropriate for the Contest Mode.

Now, you are ready to go. I usually have 2 modes of operation:

A. Left click on the first spot in the Available Mult/Q window. If that spot
is ready to be worked, work it. If not, right click on the second spot in
that window to fill VFO B - then work whichever one is ready first by using
your favorite way in (2) or (3) to switch N1MM focus or swap VFOs.

B. Left click on a bandmap spot. If that spot is ready to be worked, work
it. If not, right click on some other spot in that window - then work
whichever one is ready first. I like to either hop around the bandmap, or
start from the highest freq and work down the band because most people seem
to go the other way and I want to avoid getting in synch with someone else.

(A) can be a killer strategy, it is amazing how often you get there before
the CQ has even ended. But the big multis or the top Assisted stations are
often using this strategy - so I sometimes switch to the 2nd spot in that
window vs. the first. But if you are totally focused on that window you can
often beat W3LPL, K3LR, AA3B, etc to the spot. That is almost worth the
price of admission right there...

On dead bands, or later in the day on Sunday, there is a feeding frenzy on
new mults. Then I actually do a lot of old fashioned dial twisting on VFO B
while listening to a spot pileup on VFO A - I can usually find a few new
calls to work while either throwing my call into some poor fresh meat
guy's unruly pileup, or just waiting for it to die down.

Always stay around to hear the spotted station send his call - the RBN is
pretty accurate, but not 100%. Especially on the 2nd day of a contest, there
are always busted calls.

The RBN will usually crash at least once in the big contests. Either have a
backup cluster connection ready in the Packet/Telnet window, or use K1TTT's
WinTelnetX software to mix RBN feeds with other cluster feeds. I used to do
that, but the RBN reliability has gone way up - I haven't felt the need to
do so recently.

Hope that helps - 73, John K3TN



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Re: [Elecraft] K-Line Faultless Operation ?

2012-12-18 Thread Don Wilhelm

Phil,

Have you loaded the latest KPA500 firmware?  If not do so.  The new amp 
firmware delays fault detection until the KAT500 has a chance to tune.  
You will still see a soft fault condition, but that will clear as the 
KAT500 tunes.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/17/2012 11:30 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:

So, after adding the KAT500, I am enjoying the ever expanding K-Line:  
K3+P3+KPA500+KAT500 but I seem to be at fault more often lately.

I mean, before I got the KAT500 I relied on my Palstar AT1KM manual tuner and 
could easily tune to close to 1:1 and always under 1.5:1 for every band and 
frequency of my operations 80 through 10.  Antennas are 80-meter doublet fed 
with 450-ohm ladder line to 4:1 Balun to Coax for 80-40-30 and then a Traffie 
Hexbeam for 20-17-15-12-10 (no, usually do not need a tuner with the traffie 
but it does improve SWR).

Using the manual tuner, it was very rare, maybe twice a month or so, that I 
would fault the KPA500 due to high SWR.

Now, using the KAT500, faulting the KPA500 is a daily occurrence.  I now almost 
expect that red fault light to come on the KPA500 and the amp switch into 
Standby mode.

What am I doing wrong?  Here is a typical scenario.  I am operating on 3970 KHz 
with a 1.2:1 SWR using the KAT500 and the KPA500 in operation pushing about 475 
watts or so.  Then, I switch to 3569 KHz for some CW traffic net action and now 
with key-down (just a brief dit) I get two very closely related events.  One, the 
KPA500 faults due to high SWR and, two, the KAT500 detects the new frequency and 
changes LC from memory.  These two events are neck-and-neck within one or 
one-and-a-half seconds time.

So, I know how to avoid this.  I can put the amp in standby first.  Or, I can 
force the KAT500 to retune which inhibits the amplifier.  But, is it necessary 
to put the amp in standby?  Is this what others do?  Also, what good is the 
memory on the KAT500 if I can't make use of it.

I am using all the standard recommended cabling for the KAT500 with a K3 and 
KPA500.




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Re: [Elecraft] [KX1] Alignment Question

2012-12-18 Thread Don Wilhelm

Chris,

Are you certain the dial calibration is really off on only 40 meters?
The KX1 frequency is controlled by the data sent to the DDS by the firmware.
If indeed the frequency is off by 685 Hz only on 40 meters, I would 
suspect the firmware.
Replacement is the only fix - but you will have to enter new BFO and DDS 
menu parameters to get the dial calibration correct.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/18/2012 2:09 AM, Chris Johnson wrote:

I took my XG3 to a friend who had a very expensive service monitor.   To all of 
our surprise,  the XG3 was only a few Hz off up to about 15m and then up past 6M 
it was still  10hz off.   This was surprising!  What a great tool.

The reason I checked it was I was seeing an issue with my KX1 that I have never 
solved.   Hooking up the KX1 to the same service monitor,  I noticed that my KX1 is 
acceptably aligned within +/-10hz on 80m, 30m,  20m.   On 40m, it is ~685hz 
above the dialed frequency.Does anyone have any tips on adjusting just 40m?   
It seems the calibration procedure would impact all bands.   685hz is pretty 
noticeable, or am I just expecting too much?

Thx

Chris
K6OZY
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Re: [Elecraft] Sub RX Filters choice

2012-12-18 Thread Fred Smith
Gordon

I faced the same decision as you just a couple of weeks ago but note I'm not
a big CW op by any means so my filter choices reflect that. In my main I
have a 6Khz for AM, 2.8, 2.1,.400. 250Hz I do Digital also all are 8 pole
filters. First be sure that you don't want any more filters in the main
receiver as it's much more work to remove the sub-receiver to add filter to
the main later.

I decided for the sub to use 2 filters and they would cover everything with
the DSP filtering they were the 2.8 and the 400 8 pole filters. So far it
has worked out extremely well and I would not change anything nor add any
other. filters for my operating needs.

I do have 1 regret that when I ordered this K3 I had 1 already. I ordered it
fully loaded all options except one the sub receiver that I should have done
first off instead of waiting.

73,
Fred/N0AZZ

 

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Subject: [Elecraft] Sub RX Filters choice

Hi.

My K3 has a standard 2.7 Khz ssb filter, a narrow 2.1 Khz ssb filter and a
400 hz cw filter.


I am planning to purchase the sub RX KRX3 and would like some filter advice
please. I am much more interested in CW.

Do I have to match up all these filters on the Sub RX for diversity? I know
the 2.7 Khz is standard but for diversity I seem to remember reading the
same filters should be in place? I also seem to recall that the filters are
not cascaded so in essence, only one filter is in line at a time. So if I
purchase only the 400 hz filter for the sub RX, it diversity reception will
work fine as long as the 400 hz filter is selected for CW or SSB will be
fine between  2100 and 2700?

What would happen if I engaged the 2.1 SSB filter in main RX and I don't
have same filter in Sub RX.

Thanks for your time.


Gordon
MM0GPZ
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[Elecraft] Sub RX Filters choice

2012-12-18 Thread mm0gpz
Fred/Mike/Gary.

Thanks for useful replies.

Other than the 2.7 Khz, the 2100 and 400 are both 8 pole filters so no
offset required, hopefully.

Thanks for the tip re inserting any further filters in main RX prior to
installing sub RX.

I was considering a filter for RTTY contesting in the main RX and I
intended to purchase a second 400 Khz filter for 2nd RX if it is required
for diversity reception?

Gary. I had just been looking at all the filter curves and trying to
ascertain if the the 200 filter is actually narrower than the 250. It is
shown on a different graph scale that makes it difficult to determine? It
certainly looks narrower at the peak but I'm not sure the skirts are as
tight? If the 200 is wide enough for RTTY (170 shift), then I suppose that
is an option if it is in fact usefully narrower than the 250?  I am
considering when I am trying to run on RTTY and being squeezed out, would
the 200 or 250 filter be useful in that scenario?

I had also just been reading about your 700 Hz filter and wonded why is was
so popular. I will do a bit more reading on that now.

73

Gordon
MM0GPZ
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[Elecraft] 10 Watt DX

2012-12-18 Thread Tony Castellano
I have been following this thread and decided it was time I included my 
comments.
First of all, I operate only CW only QRP and never more that 5 Watts.
About a year and one half ago I built a K2 and put up a 135 foot OCF dipole 
antenna.
Since then, I have worked 168 countries CW, QRP. This includes South Shetland 
Island the other day.
With my K2 and more recently my KX3, I have worked France, Brazil and Hawaai 
with 100 milliWatts. The Hawaai QSO
equates to 50,000 miles per Watt.
I have worked Japan with 1 Watt and Australia with 3 Watts.
All it takes is patience and determination and of course great rigs such as the 
Elecrafts.
I encourage any one who hasn't done so  to put your high power amps aside, try 
QRP and discover the fun you are missing.

73

Tony Castellano W1ZMB
tcaste...@optonline.net
Hopewell Junction, NY
RV-6
N401TC
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[Elecraft] K3 VFO tuning noise on 10m RF gain

2012-12-18 Thread Jussi Eloranta

Hi,

I have a recent K3 (SN 6527, FW 4.51) and I see fairly strong VFO tuning 
noise on 10m.
More specifically this is centered around 28.004 MHz and spreads around 
for about +- 3 kHz.
With the preamp on this can reach S3 on the meter while tuning (well 
above the noise level with antenna on).
Not that it is going to prevent me from working there since it only 
comes while tuning but it is annoying.
There might also be other spots on the band but I work CW only, so the 
above is something I run into frequently.

Any ideas how to fix this?

Another small problem that I have is that the RF gain behaves in a bit 
unpredictable way when
turned all the way down. When I start turning it down, I see the normal 
behavior, the S-meter starts
going up. When I reach a position (about 10% of minimum), I see the 
S-meter drop down and
it seems like the RF gain is going up again. Is this a problem with RF 
gain calibration (googling around suggests this)?
And if it is, what could have caused it to go out of whack? (this was a 
factory assembled K3 that I bought

about 6 months ago). I probably need a signal source to recalibrate?

Other than these two issues, what a great radio! Really enjoying it!

Thanks,

Jussi Eloranta (AA6KJ)


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Re: [Elecraft] 10 Watt DX

2012-12-18 Thread stan levandowski
I agree with Tony.  I've earned QRP DXCC, QRP WAC, all states except ID 
and MT, and through patience and careful timing I've worked all the big 
DXpeditions over the last couple years.  My main antenna is a 44' 
doublet in my attic.  I generally use 3 watts.  I credit Elecraft's 
introduction of the KX3 *without* concurrently offering the 100 watt 
amplifier with exposing many new folks to the world of QRP.  It's great 
to hear so much exuberance being expressed for QRP.  I hope it sticks 
after the 100 watt amp hits the market.  73, Stan WB2LQF


On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Tony Castellano wrote:

I have been following this thread and decided it was time I included 
my comments.

First of all, I operate only CW only QRP and never more that 5 Watts.
About a year and one half ago I built a K2 and put up a 135 foot OCF 
dipole antenna.
Since then, I have worked 168 countries CW, QRP. This includes South 
Shetland Island the other day.
With my K2 and more recently my KX3, I have worked France, Brazil and 
Hawaai with 100 milliWatts. The Hawaai QSO

equates to 50,000 miles per Watt.
I have worked Japan with 1 Watt and Australia with 3 Watts.
All it takes is patience and determination and of course great rigs 
such as the Elecrafts.
I encourage any one who hasn't done so  to put your high power amps 
aside, try QRP and discover the fun you are missing.


73

Tony Castellano W1ZMB
tcaste...@optonline.net
Hopewell Junction, NY
RV-6
N401TC
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] SO2V?

2012-12-18 Thread Carl Clawson
Great tips, John and Rich! I've used SO2V quite a bit but can't add
anything to what you said, except:

The one thing that would make it PERFECT would be for the P3 to have a VFO
B tracking mode. Because sometimes there's life in between the spots, and
even if not it's good to know what the neighborhood's like.

Swapping VFOs to run on B and S+P on A makes the audio come out wrong --
you can't quickly cut your S+P audio and put the run frequency in both
ears, which you need when a weak one calls you. Unless there's a trick I've
missed.

73, Carl WS7L
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[Elecraft] new KPA 500 question

2012-12-18 Thread Bruce McLaughlin
I finally succumbed to temptation and ordered a KPA 500 which will arrive
tomorrow.  This may be a question that can't be answered on this reflector
but I thought I would try.  I have an HF 2500 Commander, the Palstar
version, which I have been using with the k3 and other radios.  I am not
sure about how I will integrate the KPA 500 into the station.  I have been
switching between three different radios and the Commander amplifier using a
coax switch to switch the output of the various radios to the input of the
Commander.  I have been thinking about pulling the output of the k3, running
it through the KPA 500 and then running the output of the KPA 500 to the
coax switch.  With that arrangement the switching would be exactly the same
as before.

However, I am a little concerned about running 500 Watts into the input Of
the Commander even when that amplifier is turned off.  I am wondering
whether that might damage the input circuits Of the Commander.  Does anyone
have any suggestions.  I should mention That the Commander works just fine
with all of the radios but I wanted to complete the K line and experience
integrated, completely automatic operation.  The lower power from the KPA
500 should not make any significant difference for most contacts.  I would
appreciate any thoughts on the subject.

Bruce-W8FU

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[Elecraft] KXPA100

2012-12-18 Thread P.J.Hicks


So sorry, I forgot to delete the main body of the email in the responce. Damn! 

PJH, N7PXY 

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] SO2V?

2012-12-18 Thread Igor Sokolov


The RBN will usually crash at least once in the big contests. Either have 
a
backup cluster connection ready in the Packet/Telnet window, or use 
K1TTT's
WinTelnetX software to mix RBN feeds with other cluster feeds. I used to 
do

that, but the RBN reliability has gone way up - I haven't felt the need to
do so recently.

Hope that helps - 73, John K3TN


John, I do not understand why do you need WinTelnetX while VE7CC inself 
easily combine as many clusters as one may need.


73, Igor UA9CDC

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Re: [Elecraft] 10 Watt DX

2012-12-18 Thread Ariel Jacala
I agree with both Stan and Tony.  Elecraft's introduction of the KX3 ahead of 
the 100 watt amp introduced a lot of folks to QRP.  I worked All States  QRP on 
the K2 and managed 45 DX entities with it.  Ever since getting the KX3 in 
August ( and since I had to sell 3 radios to get it), I strived to get QRP 
DXCC.  I finally got my certificate in the mail.  Thanks to my Elecraft rigs - 
I now have two certificates on the wall for QRP operation.  I can't believe 
there are already over 3000 KX3s now operating.  QRP Is loads of fun.  Just try 
the twice a year NAQCC milliwatt sprints. It takes a little patience and 
operating smarts but DXCC at 5 watts is very doable even with simple wire 
antennas - mine is a ZS6BKW.

Ariel NY4G

K2 7205
KX3 1211

Sent from my iPad

On Dec 18, 2012, at 11:40 AM, stan levandowski sjl...@optonline.net wrote:

 I agree with Tony.  I've earned QRP DXCC, QRP WAC, all states except ID and 
 MT, and through patience and careful timing I've worked all the big 
 DXpeditions over the last couple years.  My main antenna is a 44' doublet in 
 my attic.  I generally use 3 watts.  I credit Elecraft's introduction of the 
 KX3 *without* concurrently offering the 100 watt amplifier with exposing many 
 new folks to the world of QRP.  It's great to hear so much exuberance being 
 expressed for QRP.  I hope it sticks after the 100 watt amp hits the 
 market.  73, Stan WB2LQF
 
 On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Tony Castellano wrote:
 
 I have been following this thread and decided it was time I included my 
 comments.
 First of all, I operate only CW only QRP and never more that 5 Watts.
 About a year and one half ago I built a K2 and put up a 135 foot OCF dipole 
 antenna.
 Since then, I have worked 168 countries CW, QRP. This includes South 
 Shetland Island the other day.
 With my K2 and more recently my KX3, I have worked France, Brazil and Hawaai 
 with 100 milliWatts. The Hawaai QSO
 equates to 50,000 miles per Watt.
 I have worked Japan with 1 Watt and Australia with 3 Watts.
 All it takes is patience and determination and of course great rigs such as 
 the Elecrafts.
 I encourage any one who hasn't done so  to put your high power amps aside, 
 try QRP and discover the fun you are missing.
 
 73
 
 Tony Castellano W1ZMB
 tcaste...@optonline.net
 Hopewell Junction, NY
 RV-6
 N401TC
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] SO2V?

2012-12-18 Thread jpescatore

Yes, Igor - good point. You really don't need WinTelnetX anymore unless you 
have other streams to consolidate.

73 John K3TN.



-Original Message-
From: Igor Sokolov ua9...@gmail.com
To: John K3TN jpescat...@aol.com; elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tue, Dec 18, 2012 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] SO2V?



 The RBN will usually crash at least once in the big contests. Either have 
 a
 backup cluster connection ready in the Packet/Telnet window, or use 
 K1TTT's
 WinTelnetX software to mix RBN feeds with other cluster feeds. I used to 
 do
 that, but the RBN reliability has gone way up - I haven't felt the need to
 do so recently.

 Hope that helps - 73, John K3TN
John, I do not understand why do you need WinTelnetX while VE7CC inself 
asily combine as many clusters as one may need.
73, Igor UA9CDC

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 guestion

2012-12-18 Thread Adi Andrei

Better hold off until the VFO tunning noise is fixed, or you will be quite 
surprized and once you hear it you won't be able to ignore it.

Adi
M0THX



On Dec 17, 2012, at 7:47 AM, WN8HGZ wrote:


Wayne and Elecraft team . I have been holding off purchasing kx3
until  most of the bugs both software and hardware have been worked
out. Could some from elecraft give a written summary of what's been
fixed and maybe what might be left. There has been so much traffic
on this problem and that problem not sure what's fact and fiction.

Thank you Brian Mcinerney WB8IDY


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Re: [Elecraft] new KPA 500 question

2012-12-18 Thread bill ny9h


bruce , I also have two amps...which I flip 
between  using  two  topten a/b switches.


works like a charm...

used to be a TT titan  and a Hercules...

now an ACOM and the kpa500

easy to automate  or just put a little toggle  led array
see bottom center of pix
https://picasaweb.google.com/Bill.SteffeySr/NY9HIllinois?authkey=Gv1sRgCKON572GnoqrVA#5159160399932323138 


bill


At 12:44 PM 12/18/2012, Bruce McLaughlin wrote:

I finally succumbed to temptation and ordered a KPA 500 which will arrive
to


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 guestion

2012-12-18 Thread Phil Hystad
How come I don't hear this VFO tuning noise on my KX3?  As far as I know, I do 
not have
this problem.

phil, K7PEH


On Dec 18, 2012, at 10:12 AM, Adi Andrei e.adi.and...@gmail.com wrote:

 Better hold off until the VFO tunning noise is fixed, or you will be quite 
 surprized and once you hear it you won't be able to ignore it.
 
 Adi
 M0THX
 
 
 
 On Dec 17, 2012, at 7:47 AM, WN8HGZ wrote:
 
 Wayne and Elecraft team . I have been holding off purchasing kx3
 until  most of the bugs both software and hardware have been worked
 out. Could some from elecraft give a written summary of what's been
 fixed and maybe what might be left. There has been so much traffic
 on this problem and that problem not sure what's fact and fiction.
 
 Thank you Brian Mcinerney WB8IDY
 
 
 Sent from my iPad Brian Mc Inerney
 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 guestion

2012-12-18 Thread Bob Stephens
Probably for the same reason I don't here it.  At my location the atmospheric 
noise exceeds the VFO noise.  When I go out to the state park near here then I 
can hear it a little but with VFO NR on it doesn't bother me.My IC706MkIIG 
and FT-817 don't have any tuning noise but they can't pull the weak ones out of 
the noise like the KX3 can. 

73 de AF9W
Bob Stephens




On Dec 18, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:

 How come I don't hear this VFO tuning noise on my KX3?  As far as I know, I 
 do not have
 this problem.
 
 phil, K7PEH
 
 
 On Dec 18, 2012, at 10:12 AM, Adi Andrei e.adi.and...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Better hold off until the VFO tunning noise is fixed, or you will be quite 
 surprized and once you hear it you won't be able to ignore it.
 
 Adi
 M0THX
 
 
 
 On Dec 17, 2012, at 7:47 AM, WN8HGZ wrote:
 
 Wayne and Elecraft team . I have been holding off purchasing kx3
 until  most of the bugs both software and hardware have been worked
 out. Could some from elecraft give a written summary of what's been
 fixed and maybe what might be left. There has been so much traffic
 on this problem and that problem not sure what's fact and fiction.
 
 Thank you Brian Mcinerney WB8IDY
 
 
 Sent from my iPad Brian Mc Inerney
 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 guestion

2012-12-18 Thread Phil Hystad
OK, I probably wouldn't notice it then unless I was on 10 meters where it is 
very quiet usually.

Maybe I will look for it this afternoon -- is it just white noise when you turn 
the VFO ??

phil

On Dec 18, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Bob Stephens a...@bobandgloria.com wrote:

 Probably for the same reason I don't here it.  At my location the atmospheric 
 noise exceeds the VFO noise.  When I go out to the state park near here then 
 I can hear it a little but with VFO NR on it doesn't bother me.My 
 IC706MkIIG and FT-817 don't have any tuning noise but they can't pull the 
 weak ones out of the noise like the KX3 can. 
 
 73 de AF9W
 Bob Stephens
 
 
 
 
 On Dec 18, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:
 
 How come I don't hear this VFO tuning noise on my KX3?  As far as I know, I 
 do not have
 this problem.
 
 phil, K7PEH
 
 
 On Dec 18, 2012, at 10:12 AM, Adi Andrei e.adi.and...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Better hold off until the VFO tunning noise is fixed, or you will be quite 
 surprized and once you hear it you won't be able to ignore it.
 
 Adi
 M0THX
 
 
 
 On Dec 17, 2012, at 7:47 AM, WN8HGZ wrote:
 
 Wayne and Elecraft team . I have been holding off purchasing kx3
 until  most of the bugs both software and hardware have been worked
 out. Could some from elecraft give a written summary of what's been
 fixed and maybe what might be left. There has been so much traffic
 on this problem and that problem not sure what's fact and fiction.
 
 Thank you Brian Mcinerney WB8IDY
 
 
 Sent from my iPad Brian Mc Inerney
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO tuning noise

2012-12-18 Thread WO0W
I notice noise when tuning near 28.004 when on a dummy load.  When on an 
antenna, the background noise at S1 level masks it.


73, Red
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[Elecraft] K3: SPKR+PH - not sticky

2012-12-18 Thread Jack Berry

I use headphones on SSB most of the time through the front PHONES jack. I
 have the SPKR+PH option set to 'no'. MCU 4.6 installed.
Not 
always, but too often when I have been listening through the speaker and
 decide to plug in the headphones I get audio in both headphones and 
speaker.
If I go back to CONFIG: SPKR+PH and toggle between 'yes' and
 'no', the problem is cured for that session. I have no identified any 
other actions that precede the event but I'm certain it shouldn't be 
happening.

Any others with this experience or a fix for the problem?


 
God Bless  73!
Jack - WE5ST
 
God Bless  73!
Jack - WE5ST
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Re: [Elecraft] new KPA 500 question

2012-12-18 Thread Vic K2VCO
This will depend on the input relay or other switching circuit used in the Commander. Some 
QSK circuits use a small reed relay in the input and a vacuum relay for the output. In 
that case it's possible that 500-600w from the KPA500 will be too much for it. Others use 
a pair of vacuum relays, which would not be a problem. It may also use a single large 
open-frame relay, which would also be OK (although not QSK). Or it might have a PIN diode 
switch, in which case it would depend on the details of the circuit.


I think the best thing for you to do is to call Command Technologies and ask them about 
your particular model and serial number.


On 12/18/2012 9:44 AM, Bruce McLaughlin wrote:

I finally succumbed to temptation and ordered a KPA 500 which will arrive
tomorrow.  This may be a question that can't be answered on this reflector
but I thought I would try.  I have an HF 2500 Commander, the Palstar
version, which I have been using with the k3 and other radios.  I am not
sure about how I will integrate the KPA 500 into the station.  I have been
switching between three different radios and the Commander amplifier using a
coax switch to switch the output of the various radios to the input of the
Commander.  I have been thinking about pulling the output of the k3, running
it through the KPA 500 and then running the output of the KPA 500 to the
coax switch.  With that arrangement the switching would be exactly the same
as before.

However, I am a little concerned about running 500 Watts into the input Of
the Commander even when that amplifier is turned off.  I am wondering
whether that might damage the input circuits Of the Commander.  Does anyone
have any suggestions.  I should mention That the Commander works just fine
with all of the radios but I wanted to complete the K line and experience
integrated, completely automatic operation.  The lower power from the KPA
500 should not make any significant difference for most contacts.  I would
appreciate any thoughts on the subject.

Bruce-W8FU

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 guestion

2012-12-18 Thread Robert Vargas (KP4Y)
Wow, I wonder if this only a issue with certain units. I have a KX3 and I love 
it. Yes, I can hear artifacts and some other weird stuff (has a result of its 
SDR design) but that has not prevented me from hearing any signal clearly and 
working lots of DX even with 5 or 10 watts. I'm really glad I got it...the K3 
will leave my shack before the KX3 does, if I have to decide.

73,
Robert-KP4Y

Adi Andrei e.adi.and...@gmail.com wrote:

Better hold off until the VFO tunning noise is fixed, or you will be quite 
surprized and once you hear it you won't be able to ignore it.

Adi
M0THX



On Dec 17, 2012, at 7:47 AM, WN8HGZ wrote:

 Wayne and Elecraft team . I have been holding off purchasing kx3
 until  most of the bugs both software and hardware have been worked
 out. Could some from elecraft give a written summary of what's been
 fixed and maybe what might be left. There has been so much traffic
 on this problem and that problem not sure what's fact and fiction.

 Thank you Brian Mcinerney WB8IDY


 Sent from my iPad Brian Mc Inerney

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO tuning noise

2012-12-18 Thread Phil Hystad
I am pretty sure that I would never be bothered by a noise that is easily 
masked by an S1 noise level.


On Dec 18, 2012, at 10:59 AM, WO0W w...@acegroup.cc wrote:

 I notice noise when tuning near 28.004 when on a dummy load.  When on an 
 antenna, the background noise at S1 level masks it.
 
 73, Red
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 guestion

2012-12-18 Thread Robert Vargas (KP4Y)
Phil,

Same experience as you on this side.

73,
Robert-KP4Y

Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com wrote:

How come I don't hear this VFO tuning noise on my KX3?  As far as I know, I do 
not have
this problem.

phil, K7PEH


On Dec 18, 2012, at 10:12 AM, Adi Andrei e.adi.and...@gmail.com wrote:

 Better hold off until the VFO tunning noise is fixed, or you will be quite 
 surprized and once you hear it you won't be able to ignore it.
 
 Adi
 M0THX
 
 
 
 On Dec 17, 2012, at 7:47 AM, WN8HGZ wrote:
 
 Wayne and Elecraft team . I have been holding off purchasing kx3
 until  most of the bugs both software and hardware have been worked
 out. Could some from elecraft give a written summary of what's been
 fixed and maybe what might be left. There has been so much traffic
 on this problem and that problem not sure what's fact and fiction.
 
 Thank you Brian Mcinerney WB8IDY
 
 
 Sent from my iPad Brian Mc Inerney
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] SO2V?

2012-12-18 Thread Igor Sokolov
Jonh, 
VE7CC can consolidate as many streams as you wish. You can start several 
instances of VE7CC with different filter connected to different clusters and 
all the streams will be combined in the main window (and also fed to your 
logging program). 
IMHO VE7CC is much more versatile in many respects and has got excellent user 
interface. I always use in with my K3 and KX3 in and out of contests.

73, Igor UA9CDC
  - Original Message - 
  From: jpescat...@aol.com 
  To: ua9...@gmail.com ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 12:11 AM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] SO2V?


  Yes, Igor - good point. You really don't need WinTelnetX anymore unless you 
have other streams to consolidate.

  73 John K3TN.



  -Original Message-
  From: Igor Sokolov ua9...@gmail.com
  To: John K3TN jpescat...@aol.com; elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Sent: Tue, Dec 18, 2012 12:56 pm
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] SO2V?



 The RBN will usually crash at least once in the big contests. Either have 
 a
 backup cluster connection ready in the Packet/Telnet window, or use 
 K1TTT's
 WinTelnetX software to mix RBN feeds with other cluster feeds. I used to 
 do
 that, but the RBN reliability has gone way up - I haven't felt the need to
 do so recently.

 Hope that helps - 73, John K3TN

John, I do not understand why do you need WinTelnetX while VE7CC inself 
easily combine as many clusters as one may need.

73, Igor UA9CDC

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Re: [Elecraft] [KX1] Alignment Question

2012-12-18 Thread Chris Johnson
I guess using the word Dial may be misleading.   I am simply trying to say 
that on 40m the frequency that is being transmitted on is 685 hz higher than 
what is on the display.   This is only on 40m.  The other 3 bands are pretty 
accurate.  The BFO and DDS menu options are set to 0.

On Dec 18, 2012, at 6:03 AM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Chris,
 
 Are you certain the dial calibration is really off on only 40 meters?
 The KX1 frequency is controlled by the data sent to the DDS by the firmware.
 If indeed the frequency is off by 685 Hz only on 40 meters, I would suspect 
 the firmware.
 Replacement is the only fix - but you will have to enter new BFO and DDS menu 
 parameters to get the dial calibration correct.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 12/18/2012 2:09 AM, Chris Johnson wrote:
 I took my XG3 to a friend who had a very expensive service monitor.   To all 
 of our surprise,  the XG3 was only a few Hz off up to about 15m and then up 
 past 6M it was still  10hz off.   This was surprising!  What a great tool.
 
 The reason I checked it was I was seeing an issue with my KX1 that I have 
 never solved.   Hooking up the KX1 to the same service monitor,  I noticed 
 that my KX1 is acceptably aligned within +/-10hz on 80m, 30m,  20m.   On 
 40m, it is ~685hz above the dialed frequency.Does anyone have any tips 
 on adjusting just 40m?   It seems the calibration procedure would impact all 
 bands.   685hz is pretty noticeable, or am I just expecting too much?
 
 Thx
 
 Chris
 K6OZY
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO tuning noise

2012-12-18 Thread Bill Clarke
So - I got curious and tested my rig for the noise on ten meters. It 
is so faint that I had to use phones to be sure it was actually there. I 
agree with Phil, this will never bother me. Perhaps this varies from one 
rig to another?

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Re: [Elecraft] [KX1] Alignment Question

2012-12-18 Thread Don Wilhelm

Chris,

There is one thing that might produce the condition you state, and that 
is if you have 40 meters set for USB.  Tap the band button and see if 
there is a u in the left of the display when the 7 digit is displayed.


The KX1 firmware controls both the transmit and receive frequencies.  
The receive frequency is offset by whatever you set into the sidetone 
pitch, and the frequency indicated on the dial should be the transmit 
frequency.


So, if the transmit frequency is indeed off, it must be due to the firmware.
That has nothing to do with the BFO and DDS settings on the KX1.


Are you certain the receiver you are using to listen to the KX1 is in CW 
mode?  If it is in SSB mode, its dial indication may be shifted by the 
amount that receiver has set in its sidetone pitch parameter.  I know 
Yaesu changes the displayed frequency when going from SSB to CW, and 
they shift the transmit frequency when in CW mode.  Elecraft does it 
differently and always displays the transmit frequency, but shifts the 
frequency for receive.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/18/2012 2:39 PM, Chris Johnson wrote:

I guess using the word Dial may be misleading.   I am simply trying to say 
that on 40m the frequency that is being transmitted on is 685 hz higher than what is on 
the display.   This is only on 40m.  The other 3 bands are pretty accurate.  The BFO and 
DDS menu options are set to 0.




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Re: [Elecraft] new KPA 500 question

2012-12-18 Thread hawley, charles j jr
If you are 20db over S9 with the KPA500, you can be 25 to 27db over S9 with the 
Commander in line. The path is clear...

Sent from my iPad
Chuck, KE9UW 
(Jack for BMW motorcycles)

On Dec 18, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Bruce McLaughlin bmcla...@bex.net wrote:

 I finally succumbed to temptation and ordered a KPA 500 which will arrive
 tomorrow.  This may be a question that can't be answered on this reflector
 but I thought I would try.  I have an HF 2500 Commander, the Palstar
 version, which I have been using with the k3 and other radios.  I am not
 sure about how I will integrate the KPA 500 into the station.  I have been
 switching between three different radios and the Commander amplifier using a
 coax switch to switch the output of the various radios to the input of the
 Commander.  I have been thinking about pulling the output of the k3, running
 it through the KPA 500 and then running the output of the KPA 500 to the
 coax switch.  With that arrangement the switching would be exactly the same
 as before.
 
 However, I am a little concerned about running 500 Watts into the input Of
 the Commander even when that amplifier is turned off.  I am wondering
 whether that might damage the input circuits Of the Commander.  Does anyone
 have any suggestions.  I should mention That the Commander works just fine
 with all of the radios but I wanted to complete the K line and experience
 integrated, completely automatic operation.  The lower power from the KPA
 500 should not make any significant difference for most contacts.  I would
 appreciate any thoughts on the subject.
 
 Bruce-W8FU
 
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Re: [Elecraft] new KPA 500 question

2012-12-18 Thread Phil Hystad
I agree, the path is clear -- it is obvious --- sell the Commander as 5 to 7 dB 
is not worth having extra stuff around to fool with.  As said by a person with 
a growing interest and desire for QRP contacts.

73, phil, K7PEH


On Dec 18, 2012, at 12:28 PM, hawley, charles j jr c-haw...@illinois.edu 
wrote:

 If you are 20db over S9 with the KPA500, you can be 25 to 27db over S9 with 
 the Commander in line. The path is clear...
 
 Sent from my iPad
 Chuck, KE9UW 
 (Jack for BMW motorcycles)
 
 On Dec 18, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Bruce McLaughlin bmcla...@bex.net wrote:
 
 I finally succumbed to temptation and ordered a KPA 500 which will arrive
 tomorrow.  This may be a question that can't be answered on this reflector
 but I thought I would try.  I have an HF 2500 Commander, the Palstar
 version, which I have been using with the k3 and other radios.  I am not
 sure about how I will integrate the KPA 500 into the station.  I have been
 switching between three different radios and the Commander amplifier using a
 coax switch to switch the output of the various radios to the input of the
 Commander.  I have been thinking about pulling the output of the k3, running
 it through the KPA 500 and then running the output of the KPA 500 to the
 coax switch.  With that arrangement the switching would be exactly the same
 as before.
 
 However, I am a little concerned about running 500 Watts into the input Of
 the Commander even when that amplifier is turned off.  I am wondering
 whether that might damage the input circuits Of the Commander.  Does anyone
 have any suggestions.  I should mention That the Commander works just fine
 with all of the radios but I wanted to complete the K line and experience
 integrated, completely automatic operation.  The lower power from the KPA
 500 should not make any significant difference for most contacts.  I would
 appreciate any thoughts on the subject.
 
 Bruce-W8FU
 
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Re: [Elecraft] new KPA 500 question

2012-12-18 Thread Brian Alsop
Sure could have used the extra 5-7 db when chasing the recent ZL9 
Dxpedition on RTTY from the East Coast.


73 DE Brian/K3KO

On 12/18/2012 20:31, Phil Hystad wrote:

I agree, the path is clear -- it is obvious --- sell the Commander as 5 to 7 dB 
is not worth having extra stuff around to fool with.  As said by a person with 
a growing interest and desire for QRP contacts.

73, phil, K7PEH


On Dec 18, 2012, at 12:28 PM, hawley, charles j jr c-haw...@illinois.edu 
wrote:


If you are 20db over S9 with the KPA500, you can be 25 to 27db over S9 with the 
Commander in line. The path is clear...

Sent from my iPad
Chuck, KE9UW
(Jack for BMW motorcycles)






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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 guestion

2012-12-18 Thread Bob Stephens
 The noise sounds like scratching.  As if there was something rubbing on the 
VFO knob.  Put the radio on a dummy load, tune to 10M, make sure menu item VFO 
NR is off, and then tune the dial with the audio level up.   On the couple of 
bands where I have heard the noise, i.e. 10M, I turned on VFO NR and its not a 
problem anymore.  

Bob AF9W



On Dec 18, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:

 OK, I probably wouldn't notice it then unless I was on 10 meters where it is 
 very quiet usually.
 
 Maybe I will look for it this afternoon -- is it just white noise when you 
 turn the VFO ??
 
 phil
 
 On Dec 18, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Bob Stephens a...@bobandgloria.com wrote:
 
 Probably for the same reason I don't here it.  At my location the 
 atmospheric noise exceeds the VFO noise.  When I go out to the state park 
 near here then I can hear it a little but with VFO NR on it doesn't bother 
 me.My IC706MkIIG and FT-817 don't have any tuning noise but they can't 
 pull the weak ones out of the noise like the KX3 can. 
 
 73 de AF9W
 Bob Stephens
 
 
 
 
 On Dec 18, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:
 
 How come I don't hear this VFO tuning noise on my KX3?  As far as I know, I 
 do not have
 this problem.
 
 phil, K7PEH
 
 
 On Dec 18, 2012, at 10:12 AM, Adi Andrei e.adi.and...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Better hold off until the VFO tunning noise is fixed, or you will be quite 
 surprized and once you hear it you won't be able to ignore it.
 
 Adi
 M0THX
 
 
 
 On Dec 17, 2012, at 7:47 AM, WN8HGZ wrote:
 
 Wayne and Elecraft team . I have been holding off purchasing kx3
 until  most of the bugs both software and hardware have been worked
 out. Could some from elecraft give a written summary of what's been
 fixed and maybe what might be left. There has been so much traffic
 on this problem and that problem not sure what's fact and fiction.
 
 Thank you Brian Mcinerney WB8IDY
 
 
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[Elecraft] KX3 CW

2012-12-18 Thread Steve Saslow
Is it possible to program/set up the KX3 so I can send CW while listening to 
either LSB or USB?  Please advise!  tnxThis IS completely, simply possible, 
on the KX1...   -maybe simple because it's a CW-only rig?73, Steve K7E  
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO tuning noise

2012-12-18 Thread Jussi Eloranta

On 12/18/2012 12:11 PM, Bill Clarke wrote:
So - I got curious and tested my rig for the noise on ten meters. It 
is so faint that I had to use phones to be sure it was actually there. 
I agree with Phil, this will never bother me. Perhaps this varies from 
one rig to another?
On mine I can definitely hear it even with the band noise present (I 
always use phones and work with fairly weak signals lurking in the noise).
When browsing the band quickly, it is possible to miss a weak station 
because of this. I have a decent antenna hooked up to it - an inverted 
V, which
is abt 50 feet up from the center, so there is significant band noise 
present. I have the preamp on pretty much at all times on 10m.


I wonder if there are some factors in the assembly process that could 
affect this (routing of cables etc.) ?
I think I have also noticed that the amplitude of the tuning noise 
varies (not related to the noise level of the band) but
I still have to verify this observation (this could still be my 
imagination).


As for the question about the RF gain - I probably need to calibrate RF 
gain again. It would be great to know
how it got messed up - it could have been from the very beginning - I 
might have just missed it.


Jussi (AA6KJ)

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 CW

2012-12-18 Thread Wayne Burdick

This is high on the firmware list for the KX3.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Dec 18, 2012, at 12:50 PM, Steve Saslow wrote:

Is it possible to program/set up the KX3 so I can send CW while  
listening to either LSB or USB?  Please advise!  tnxThis IS  
completely, simply possible, on the KX1...   -maybe simple because  
it's a CW-only rig?73, Steve K7E 		 	   		

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO tuning noise

2012-12-18 Thread Peter Lambert
I've had the KX3 for a couple of months now and have heard the noise for the
first time just recently.
At the time I had no antenna connected to the unit whilst charging the
batteries and turned the knob and there it was.  It was barely above the
noise level of the rig itself (which is awful quiet).  Later that evening
the noise was gone - I simply could not hear it no matter what I did, 10m
through LF.  Next day I could hear it again.
The noise came and went with temperature.  We're into summer here and during
the middle of the day when it's stinking hot it's there, morning and evening
when it's cooler it's gone.  Kind of feels like a bit of DC shift in the
direct conversion mixers with temperature that results in a low frequency
artefact when the digital VFO makes a step change in frequency.
In normal use, with an antenna, I can't hear it under any circumstances.
It's of no consequence (to me).
Regards, Peter VK4JD.





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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 CW

2012-12-18 Thread Don Wilhelm

Steve,

Not yet.
That is coming - it is one of the things on Wayne's to-do list.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/18/2012 3:50 PM, Steve Saslow wrote:

Is it possible to program/set up the KX3 so I can send CW while listening to 
either LSB or USB?  Please advise!  tnxThis IS completely, simply possible, 
on the KX1...   -maybe simple because it's a CW-only rig?73, Steve K7E  
   



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 CW

2012-12-18 Thread Matt VK2RQ
Actually, if you just want to listen to SSB and send CW, there are a couple of 
ways to achieve that even without Wayne's upcoming CW-in-SSB enhancement

1) set split mode on the KX3, with SSB on the RX VFO, and CW on the TX VFO

2) set the radio to CW mode, and open up the bandwidth of the PBT to let the 
SSB signal through. Tune off frequency by 600Hz or so to make the SSB sound 
clear (can use also use RIT if you want). You may need to select CW-R if you 
are wanting the opposite sideband.

Of course, none of this is as convenient as the CW-in-SSB feature will be, but 
it does allow you to participate in those cross mode situations like you often 
get with CW practice nets for example.

73, Matt VK2RQ

On 19/12/2012, at 8:15 AM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Steve,
 
 Not yet.
 That is coming - it is one of the things on Wayne's to-do list.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 12/18/2012 3:50 PM, Steve Saslow wrote:
 Is it possible to program/set up the KX3 so I can send CW while listening to 
 either LSB or USB?  Please advise!  tnxThis IS completely, simply 
 possible, on the KX1...   -maybe simple because it's a CW-only rig?73, Steve 
 K7E  
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO tuning noise

2012-12-18 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
What about hearing tuning noise in the main RX when the sub-RX is 
tuned?  In my case it is not discrete signals, rather an increase in the 
noise, and is clearly audible over band noise on 10.


73, Pete N4ZR
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ARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node.

On 12/18/2012 3:53 PM, Jussi Eloranta wrote:

On 12/18/2012 12:11 PM, Bill Clarke wrote:
So - I got curious and tested my rig for the noise on ten meters. 
It is so faint that I had to use phones to be sure it was actually 
there. I agree with Phil, this will never bother me. Perhaps this 
varies from one rig to another?
On mine I can definitely hear it even with the band noise present (I 
always use phones and work with fairly weak signals lurking in the 
noise).
When browsing the band quickly, it is possible to miss a weak station 
because of this. I have a decent antenna hooked up to it - an 
inverted V, which
is abt 50 feet up from the center, so there is significant band noise 
present. I have the preamp on pretty much at all times on 10m.


I wonder if there are some factors in the assembly process that could 
affect this (routing of cables etc.) ?
I think I have also noticed that the amplitude of the tuning noise 
varies (not related to the noise level of the band) but
I still have to verify this observation (this could still be my 
imagination).


As for the question about the RF gain - I probably need to calibrate 
RF gain again. It would be great to know
how it got messed up - it could have been from the very beginning - I 
might have just missed it.


Jussi (AA6KJ)

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Re: [Elecraft] new KPA 500 question

2012-12-18 Thread Tom H Childers
I disconnected my Alpha 87A when I got the KPA500.  Working DX
doesn't seem any more difficult after learning to watch the pile-up
with the P3, but I don't use SSB, where one might notice a
difference.

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member

On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 12:31:11 -0800, Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com
wrote:

I agree, the path is clear -- it is obvious --- sell the Commander as 5 to 7 
dB is not worth having extra stuff around to fool with.  As said by a person 
with a growing interest and desire for QRP contacts.

73, phil, K7PEH


On Dec 18, 2012, at 12:28 PM, hawley, charles j jr c-haw...@illinois.edu 
wrote:

 If you are 20db over S9 with the KPA500, you can be 25 to 27db over S9 with 
 the Commander in line. The path is clear...
 
 Sent from my iPad
 Chuck, KE9UW 
 (Jack for BMW motorcycles)
 
 On Dec 18, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Bruce McLaughlin bmcla...@bex.net wrote:
 
 I finally succumbed to temptation and ordered a KPA 500 which will arrive
 tomorrow.  This may be a question that can't be answered on this reflector
 but I thought I would try.  I have an HF 2500 Commander, the Palstar
 version, which I have been using with the k3 and other radios.  I am not
 sure about how I will integrate the KPA 500 into the station.  I have been
 switching between three different radios and the Commander amplifier using a
 coax switch to switch the output of the various radios to the input of the
 Commander.  I have been thinking about pulling the output of the k3, running
 it through the KPA 500 and then running the output of the KPA 500 to the
 coax switch.  With that arrangement the switching would be exactly the same
 as before.
 
 However, I am a little concerned about running 500 Watts into the input Of
 the Commander even when that amplifier is turned off.  I am wondering
 whether that might damage the input circuits Of the Commander.  Does anyone
 have any suggestions.  I should mention That the Commander works just fine
 with all of the radios but I wanted to complete the K line and experience
 integrated, completely automatic operation.  The lower power from the KPA
 500 should not make any significant difference for most contacts.  I would
 appreciate any thoughts on the subject.
 
 Bruce-W8FU
 
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Re: [Elecraft] new KPA 500 question

2012-12-18 Thread Scott Manthe
I hate to be a contrarian, but the path is not quite so clear. That 5 to 
7 dB can be the difference between making a contact or not making a 
contact, especially on the low bands. We're not always talking about the 
difference between S9, plus 20 or 25, but the difference between S0 or 
S.5, or being an S unit above the noise.


I currently don't have anything bigger than my KPA500 and I'm very happy 
with it, but anyone who says that 600 watts is always enough power 
doesn't try to work tough DX on 80 or 160m. A serious 160 op will tell 
you that 600 watts is often about 6 dB too little, sometimes more...


73,
Scott, N9AA


On 12/18/12 3:31 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:

I agree, the path is clear -- it is obvious --- sell the Commander as 5 to 7 dB 
is not worth having extra stuff around to fool with.  As said by a person with 
a growing interest and desire for QRP contacts.

73, phil, K7PEH


On Dec 18, 2012, at 12:28 PM, hawley, charles j jr c-haw...@illinois.edu 
wrote:


If you are 20db over S9 with the KPA500, you can be 25 to 27db over S9 with the 
Commander in line. The path is clear...

Sent from my iPad
Chuck, KE9UW
(Jack for BMW motorcycles)




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Re: [Elecraft] new KPA 500 question

2012-12-18 Thread David Gilbert


I totally agree ... there is nothing clear about that path at all. 5 db 
is a HUGE difference if you're anywhere near the noise level on the 
other end, and it is a major difference if you're competing against 
other weak stations for a contact.  Under the right circumstances even 2 
db can make a significant difference.  I urge anyone who doesn't believe 
me to check out:


http://www.ab7e.com/weak_signal/mdd.html

QRP is fun and I've done a lot of it myself, but saying that 5 to 7 db 
is not worth having in general is just nonsense.


73,
Dave   AB7E



On 12/18/2012 3:14 PM, Scott Manthe wrote:
I hate to be a contrarian, but the path is not quite so clear. That 5 
to 7 dB can be the difference between making a contact or not making a 
contact, especially on the low bands. We're not always talking about 
the difference between S9, plus 20 or 25, but the difference between 
S0 or S.5, or being an S unit above the noise.


I currently don't have anything bigger than my KPA500 and I'm very 
happy with it, but anyone who says that 600 watts is always enough 
power doesn't try to work tough DX on 80 or 160m. A serious 160 op 
will tell you that 600 watts is often about 6 dB too little, sometimes 
more...


73,
Scott, N9AA


On 12/18/12 3:31 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
I agree, the path is clear -- it is obvious --- sell the Commander as 
5 to 7 dB is not worth having extra stuff around to fool with.  As 
said by a person with a growing interest and desire for QRP contacts.


73, phil, K7PEH


On Dec 18, 2012, at 12:28 PM, hawley, charles j jr 
c-haw...@illinois.edu wrote:


If you are 20db over S9 with the KPA500, you can be 25 to 27db over 
S9 with the Commander in line. The path is clear...


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[Elecraft] KX3 VFO tuning noise...an observation...

2012-12-18 Thread zendoc


Hi Group,

FWIW, I have an observation about the KX3 VFO tuning noise.

 

I assembled my  #2511 (absent any options) from the kit.   Over
a month of use, I noticed the raspy VFO tuning noise only on 10m, in
quiet band conditions.  I couldn't hear it anywhere else.

I later received the internal ATU, battery charger  and the filter
module options and installed these all together in one session.

 

After adding these modules, I have noticable tuning noise on all
bands 17m and above.  It is reduced but not eliminated by the VFO NR
menu setting.

On 20m, I can hear the artefact, but it is less noticable and has a
different quality:  softer and more like a pulsing shift in amplitude
of the background band noise as the VFO is turned.

 

None of this stops me enjoying my KX3, but for some reason, the
artefact became noticable on my KX3 only after installation of my
options.

This is a cosmetic issue, without any functional impairment, but
it's un-attractive and I'm hoping a fix might be found some day.

 

73,

John

VK7JB

 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 VFO tuning noise...an observation...

2012-12-18 Thread Wayne Burdick

John,

Did you try setting RX SHFT to 8.0 on affected bands?

Wayne
N6KR

On Dec 18, 2012, at 3:05 PM, zen...@netspace.net.au wrote:




Hi Group,

FWIW, I have an observation about the KX3 VFO tuning noise.



I assembled my  #2511 (absent any options) from the kit.   Over
a month of use, I noticed the raspy VFO tuning noise only on 10m, in
quiet band conditions.  I couldn't hear it anywhere else.

I later received the internal ATU, battery charger  and the filter
module options and installed these all together in one session.



After adding these modules, I have noticable tuning noise on all
bands 17m and above.  It is reduced but not eliminated by the VFO NR
menu setting.

On 20m, I can hear the artefact, but it is less noticable and has a
different quality:  softer and more like a pulsing shift in amplitude
of the background band noise as the VFO is turned.



None of this stops me enjoying my KX3, but for some reason, the
artefact became noticable on my KX3 only after installation of my
options.

This is a cosmetic issue, without any functional impairment, but
it's un-attractive and I'm hoping a fix might be found some day.



73,

John

VK7JB


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 VFO tuning noise...an observation...

2012-12-18 Thread David Moorman
Try turning VFO NR to ON.

Dave K9SW



On Dec 18, 2012, at 5:05 PM, zen...@netspace.net.au wrote:

 
 
 Hi Group,
 
FWIW, I have an observation about the KX3 VFO tuning noise.
 
 
 
I assembled my  #2511 (absent any options) from the kit.   Over
 a month of use, I noticed the raspy VFO tuning noise only on 10m, in
 quiet band conditions.  I couldn't hear it anywhere else.
 
I later received the internal ATU, battery charger  and the filter
 module options and installed these all together in one session.
 
 
 
After adding these modules, I have noticable tuning noise on all
 bands 17m and above.  It is reduced but not eliminated by the VFO NR
 menu setting.
 
On 20m, I can hear the artefact, but it is less noticable and has a
 different quality:  softer and more like a pulsing shift in amplitude
 of the background band noise as the VFO is turned.
 
 
 
None of this stops me enjoying my KX3, but for some reason, the
 artefact became noticable on my KX3 only after installation of my
 options.
 
This is a cosmetic issue, without any functional impairment, but
 it's un-attractive and I'm hoping a fix might be found some day.
 
 
 
73,
 
John
 
VK7JB
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] new KPA 500 question

2012-12-18 Thread hawley, charles j jr
Ok...I was a little hasty I think. I've never been a contester and didn't 
consider HAVING to make the contact in adverse conditions.


Sent from my iPad
Chuck, KE9UW 
(Jack for BMW motorcycles)

On Dec 18, 2012, at 5:05 PM, David Gilbert xda...@cis-broadband.com wrote:

 
 I totally agree ... there is nothing clear about that path at all. 5 db is a 
 HUGE difference if you're anywhere near the noise level on the other end, and 
 it is a major difference if you're competing against other weak stations for 
 a contact.  Under the right circumstances even 2 db can make a significant 
 difference.  I urge anyone who doesn't believe me to check out:
 
 http://www.ab7e.com/weak_signal/mdd.html
 
 QRP is fun and I've done a lot of it myself, but saying that 5 to 7 db is not 
 worth having in general is just nonsense.
 
 73,
 Dave   AB7E
 
 
 
 On 12/18/2012 3:14 PM, Scott Manthe wrote:
 I hate to be a contrarian, but the path is not quite so clear. That 5 to 7 
 dB can be the difference between making a contact or not making a contact, 
 especially on the low bands. We're not always talking about the difference 
 between S9, plus 20 or 25, but the difference between S0 or S.5, or being an 
 S unit above the noise.
 
 I currently don't have anything bigger than my KPA500 and I'm very happy 
 with it, but anyone who says that 600 watts is always enough power doesn't 
 try to work tough DX on 80 or 160m. A serious 160 op will tell you that 600 
 watts is often about 6 dB too little, sometimes more...
 
 73,
 Scott, N9AA
 
 
 On 12/18/12 3:31 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
 I agree, the path is clear -- it is obvious --- sell the Commander as 5 to 
 7 dB is not worth having extra stuff around to fool with.  As said by a 
 person with a growing interest and desire for QRP contacts.
 
 73, phil, K7PEH
 
 
 On Dec 18, 2012, at 12:28 PM, hawley, charles j jr 
 c-haw...@illinois.edu wrote:
 
 If you are 20db over S9 with the KPA500, you can be 25 to 27db over S9 
 with the Commander in line. The path is clear...
 
 Sent from my iPad
 Chuck, KE9UW
 (Jack for BMW motorcycles)
 
 
 
 
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[Elecraft] KX3 Feature Christmas Wish

2012-12-18 Thread K3WWP
I think the K2 has a very nice feature that allows hooking up any number and
type of keys - paddles, straight keys, bugs - so that one can switch among
them at any time without going through any menu settings. This is made
possible by a simple circuit using just two diodes shown in the K2 Owner's
manual (Revision G, May 29, 2007) on page 99. This doesn't seem to work on
my KX3, and as far as I know, there is no similar feature in the KX3. As a
100% CW operator who enjoys switching among different keys while on the air
- even during a QSO - I think there should be. As a relatively new (very
pleased) owner of a KX3, I'd like to know if I'm just overlooking something,
and if not, I'd like to see that feature added. I would imagine it could be
something done through a firmware revision. Or as an alternative, is there a
plug available to plug in an external paddle to the jack designed for the
KXPD3 so I could hook my Begali and Bencher paddles there, and a straight
key and bug to the main key jack on the side of the rig. Thanks for any
forthcoming help with this. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all from:

* John K3WWP - 100% CW / QRP - Proudly promoting Morse Code:
*
* On the air with my KX3 #2325, K2 #6418, KX-1 #02101
*
* As NAQCC VP - # 0002 FC # 1 - http://naqcc.info/
*
* As FISTS Keynote QRP Columnist - # 2002 - http://www.fists.org/
*
* With my CW-QRP site - http://home.windstream.net/johnshan/

 




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[Elecraft] KX3 Digital Voice Recorder (DVR) ready for test -- need a few volunteers

2012-12-18 Thread Wayne Burdick

Hi all,

If you'd like to put the KX3's DVR function through its paces, please  
email me directly and I'll send you the field-test firmware release  
(rev 1.31).


I'll take the first 20 or so. Assuming testing by this group and our  
regular field testers goes well, the new firmware will be available on  
our website tomorrow as a beta release.


73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] Sub RX Filters choice

2012-12-18 Thread Don Wilhelm

Gordon,

I am going to give you a slightly different answer than I have seen 
posted on the reflector.


If diversity mode is your main consideration, then ideally, you need to 
have matched filters
The 5 pole filters  can be matched at extra cost from Elecraft, but the 
9 pole Inrad filters supposedly have zero offset and do not have to be 
matched.


The matching problem becomes less important at wider filter bandwidths, 
so since you have the 2.7 kHz filter in the main already, you can get 
another 2.7 for the subRX and average the offsets.  It is not the ideal, 
but it will work fine for diversity reception.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/18/2012 6:28 AM, mm0gpz wrote:

Hi.

My K3 has a standard 2.7 Khz ssb filter, a narrow 2.1 Khz ssb filter and a
400 hz cw filter.


I am planning to purchase the sub RX KRX3 and would like some filter advice
please. I am much more interested in CW.

Do I have to match up all these filters on the Sub RX for diversity? I know
the 2.7 Khz is standard but for diversity I seem to remember reading the
same filters should be in place? I also seem to recall that the filters are
not cascaded so in essence, only one filter is in line at a time. So if I
purchase only the 400 hz filter for the sub RX, it diversity reception will
work fine as long as the 400 hz filter is selected for CW or SSB will be
fine between  2100 and 2700?

What would happen if I engaged the 2.1 SSB filter in main RX and I don't
have same filter in Sub RX.

Thanks for your time.




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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Feature Christmas Wish

2012-12-18 Thread Don Wilhelm

John,

There is not an equivalent to the K2 diode hookup in the KX3.  Your 
various paddles will work fine if simply wired in parallel.  The problem 
is the straight key and the bug.


However, there are 2 paddle inputs to the KX3 - one for the 3.5mm jack 
and another for the 4 pin connector intended for the KXPD1. Either can 
be set to hand in the menu to handle a bug or straight key.


I do not have the Mouser/Digikey part number for the 2x2 header that 
will plug into the KX3 in place of the KXPD3, but I do recall someone 
who published a part number on this reflector.  A search of the archives 
may reveal than number.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/18/2012 7:23 PM, K3WWP wrote:

I think the K2 has a very nice feature that allows hooking up any number and
type of keys - paddles, straight keys, bugs - so that one can switch among
them at any time without going through any menu settings. This is made
possible by a simple circuit using just two diodes shown in the K2 Owner's
manual (Revision G, May 29, 2007) on page 99. This doesn't seem to work on
my KX3, and as far as I know, there is no similar feature in the KX3. As a
100% CW operator who enjoys switching among different keys while on the air
- even during a QSO - I think there should be. As a relatively new (very
pleased) owner of a KX3, I'd like to know if I'm just overlooking something,
and if not, I'd like to see that feature added. I would imagine it could be
something done through a firmware revision. Or as an alternative, is there a
plug available to plug in an external paddle to the jack designed for the
KXPD3 so I could hook my Begali and Bencher paddles there, and a straight
key and bug to the main key jack on the side of the rig. Thanks for any
forthcoming help with this. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all from:



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Re: [Elecraft] K3: SPKR+PH - not sticky

2012-12-18 Thread PTA_ABD
Almost the same problem here. The difference is that toggling SPKR+PH on and 
off has no effect. I'm also sure the MCU isn't the reason, as this popped up 
well after changing to 4.6, but I suppose there could be different reasons for 
you and I.  I have convinced myself that the headphone jack up front is the 
problem. As usual, dissassembling stuff is a problem with bad fingers. The 
present quick fix is to put a small book over the speaker ... klutzy but works 
quite well.

Paul WB2ABD



 I use headphones on SSB most of the time through the front PHONES jack. I
 have the SPKR+PH option set to 'no'. MCU 4.6 installed.
Not 
always, but too often when I have been listening through the speaker and
 decide to plug in the headphones I get audio in both headphones and 
speaker.
If I go back to CONFIG: SPKR+PH and toggle between 'yes' and
 'no', the problem is cured for that session. I have no identified any 
other actions that precede the event but I'm certain it shouldn't be 
happening.

Any others with this experience or a fix for the problem?


?
God Bless??73!
Jack - WE5ST




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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 VFO tuning noise...an observation...

2012-12-18 Thread zendoc


 
Hi Wayne and group,

Thanks for replies and suggestions.  Sorry, I forgot to mention: 
the VFO NR menu item does reduce the amplitude of the artefact, but
doesn't eliminate it.  The RX SHIFT to 8.0 is effective too, but with
that selected, I give up the dual rx feature.

I'm not complaining about this, just offering an observation.  It
really is a matter of auditory cosmesis and I've been spoilt because
my K3 and K2 and K1 have not the slightest VFO noise.

Cheers,

John

VK7JB

 
- Original Message -
From: Wayne Burdick 
To:
Cc:Elecraft Group 
Sent:Tue, 18 Dec 2012 15:11:54 -0800
Subject:Re: [Elecraft] KX3 VFO tuning noise...an observation...

 John,

 Did you try setting RX SHFT to 8.0 on affected bands?

 Wayne
 N6KR

 On Dec 18, 2012, at 3:05 PM, zendoc@netspace.netau wrote:

 
 
  Hi Group,
 
  FWIW, I have an observation about the KX3 VFO tuning noise.
 
  
 
  I assembled my #2511 (absent any options) from the kit. Over
  a month of use, I noticed the raspy VFO tuning noise only on 10m,
in
  quiet band conditions. I couldn't hear it anywhere else.
 
  I later received the internal ATU, battery charger and the filter
  module options and installed these all together in one session.
 
  
 
  After adding these modules, I have noticable tuning noise on all
  bands 17m and above. It is reduced but not eliminated by the VFO NR
  menu setting.
 
  On 20m, I can hear the artefact, but it is less noticable and has a
  different quality: softer and more like a pulsing shift in
amplitude
  of the background band noise as the VFO is turned.
 
  
 
  None of this stops me enjoying my KX3, but for some reason, the
  artefact became noticable on my KX3 only after installation of my
  options.
 
  This is a cosmetic issue, without any functional impairment, but
  it's un-attractive and I'm hoping a fix might be found some day.
 
  
 
  73,
 
  John
 
  VK7JB
 
  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: SPKR+PH - not sticky

2012-12-18 Thread Jack Berry
Gotta like low tech! Works without software and shielded cables. 

On Dec 18, 2012, at 7:13 PM, PTA_ABD wb2...@roadrunner.com wrote:

 Almost the same problem here. The difference is that toggling SPKR+PH on and 
 off has no effect. I'm also sure the MCU isn't the reason, as this popped up 
 well after changing to 4.6, but I suppose there could be different reasons 
 for you and I.  I have convinced myself that the headphone jack up front is 
 the problem. As usual, dissassembling stuff is a problem with bad fingers. 
 The present quick fix is to put a small book over the speaker ... klutzy but 
 works quite well.
 
 Paul WB2ABD
 
 
 
 I use headphones on SSB most of the time through the front PHONES jack. I
 have the SPKR+PH option set to 'no'. MCU 4.6 installed.
 Not 
 always, but too often when I have been listening through the speaker and
 decide to plug in the headphones I get audio in both headphones and 
 speaker.
 If I go back to CONFIG: SPKR+PH and toggle between 'yes' and
 'no', the problem is cured for that session. I have no identified any 
 other actions that precede the event but I'm certain it shouldn't be 
 happening.
 
 Any others with this experience or a fix for the problem?
 
 
 ?
 God Bless??73!
 Jack - WE5ST
 
 
 
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[Elecraft] K144XV?

2012-12-18 Thread Jim Miller
Is the optional 5V signal on the ANT3 center pin intended to be a T/R
signal to a remote amp/preamp?

I'm just trying to learn a bit about 2m stuff. What sort of external
amps/preamps have folks found useful? Are the preamps/amps mast mounted,
combined or separate?

Thanks

jim
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[Elecraft] Wall wart for KX3

2012-12-18 Thread Ed Picha

KX3 gurus:

Has anyone found a wall wart they like for the KX3?  Like most hams, I 
have a big box of wall warts, and have tried several different 12 V 
adaptors with the KX3.  They all worked ok for general operation, but I 
noted that when I added the KXBC3 battery charger option to the KX3, I 
really needed an honest 13.8 V or higher to fully charge the internal 
batteries.  Most of the warts I tried had outputs less than 13V, and the 
few that I found that could supply 13.8 V under load had voltages above 
15 V with no load.   I didn't want to take a chance with these by 
exceeding the KX3 upper voltage speceven for the short time that it 
would take for the adaptor voltage to drop.


My KX3 current drain numbers are (all at 13.8 V):

receive, with backlight:  0.190 A
receive while charging batteries: 0.400 A
transmit, 5W: 1.04 A
transmit, 10W: 1.91 A

So, I guess the ideal adaptor would be capable of 2A at 13.8 V to 
support running the radio with no (or fully discharged) batteries at 
full power, and would not exceed 15 V with no load.  While I'm wishing, 
it would also be smalland lightweight.


Any suggestions?

thanks, 73

ed N9EP
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Re: [Elecraft] Wall wart for KX3

2012-12-18 Thread Don Wilhelm

Ed,

I for one would not trust any radio to a wall-wart power supply unless 
it stated on the label that it was regulated.


In most cases, the open circuit voltage will soar, and the KX3 maximum 
voltage is 15 volts.  Under the supply's rated load, the voltage will 
normally reduce to the voltage on the label, but there is usually a wide 
swing between no-load and full-load voltages.


I would suggest a real power supply which is rated at 4 amps or more for 
the KX3.


My own KX3 runs off an Astron 30 amp supply and is fused for 10 amps to 
protect the wire from any fault.


73,
Don W3FPR
On 12/18/2012 9:17 PM, Ed Picha wrote:

KX3 gurus:

Has anyone found a wall wart they like for the KX3?  Like most hams, I 
have a big box of wall warts, and have tried several different 12 V 
adaptors with the KX3.  They all worked ok for general operation, but 
I noted that when I added the KXBC3 battery charger option to the KX3, 
I really needed an honest 13.8 V or higher to fully charge the 
internal batteries.  Most of the warts I tried had outputs less than 
13V, and the few that I found that could supply 13.8 V under load had 
voltages above 15 V with no load.   I didn't want to take a chance 
with these by exceeding the KX3 upper voltage speceven for the short 
time that it would take for the adaptor voltage to drop.


My KX3 current drain numbers are (all at 13.8 V):

receive, with backlight:  0.190 A
receive while charging batteries: 0.400 A
transmit, 5W: 1.04 A
transmit, 10W: 1.91 A

So, I guess the ideal adaptor would be capable of 2A at 13.8 V to 
support running the radio with no (or fully discharged) batteries at 
full power, and would not exceed 15 V with no load.  While I'm 
wishing, it would also be smalland lightweight.


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 -- Span slow to update

2012-12-18 Thread Dan Maase
Paul:

Just updated my P3 and K3 to latest FW after both  in storage after a move. 
P3 MCU from 1.0 to 1.20.  Have SVGA option installed, but before attaching
monitor, noted slowdown of P3 display update.  I've confirmed Nate's
feedback that it drops to a crawl at about 150 ms and basically freezes by
the time update down to less than 50 ms. (gets slower as rate decreases). 
When P3 is at slow update, a power cycle clears the problem and the rate
previously selected is now functional.  Is there a configuration parameter
that conflicts?  BTW, serial connection baud rate is 38.4 kbps at both P3
and K3.

May also want to revert to MCU 1.09 if that is available.

73

Dan
AC6DM



Paul,

On a whim I decided to load P3 FW 1.20 earlier this evening and note
that the span adjustment still is much slower than it was in 1.09.  I'd
like to switch back, but I must have deleted 1.09.  I don't see it
anywhere on the FTP server so I guess I'm out of luck.  Bummer.

73, de Nate, N0NB  




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Re: [Elecraft] Wall wart for KX3

2012-12-18 Thread Christian AK4VV
Enercell wallwart from Radio Shack is what I use and have been happy with
it.

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3875404numProdsPerPage=60

73,
Christian
AK4VV
 On Dec 18, 2012 9:17 PM, Ed Picha n...@comcast.net wrote:

 KX3 gurus:

 Has anyone found a wall wart they like for the KX3?  Like most hams, I
 have a big box of wall warts, and have tried several different 12 V
 adaptors with the KX3.  They all worked ok for general operation, but I
 noted that when I added the KXBC3 battery charger option to the KX3, I
 really needed an honest 13.8 V or higher to fully charge the internal
 batteries.  Most of the warts I tried had outputs less than 13V, and the
 few that I found that could supply 13.8 V under load had voltages above 15
 V with no load.   I didn't want to take a chance with these by exceeding
 the KX3 upper voltage speceven for the short time that it would take for
 the adaptor voltage to drop.

 My KX3 current drain numbers are (all at 13.8 V):

 receive, with backlight:  0.190 A
 receive while charging batteries: 0.400 A
 transmit, 5W: 1.04 A
 transmit, 10W: 1.91 A

 So, I guess the ideal adaptor would be capable of 2A at 13.8 V to support
 running the radio with no (or fully discharged) batteries at full power,
 and would not exceed 15 V with no load.  While I'm wishing, it would also
 be smalland lightweight.

 Any suggestions?

 thanks, 73

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Re: [Elecraft] Wall wart for KX3

2012-12-18 Thread Christian AK4VV
Agree.  And an Astron RS-35M does the heavy lifting in my shack.  But a
little wallwart can go a long ways when the Astron isn't in reach.

73,
Christian
AK4VV
 On Dec 18, 2012 9:33 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Ed,

 I for one would not trust any radio to a wall-wart power supply unless it
 stated on the label that it was regulated.

 In most cases, the open circuit voltage will soar, and the KX3 maximum
 voltage is 15 volts.  Under the supply's rated load, the voltage will
 normally reduce to the voltage on the label, but there is usually a wide
 swing between no-load and full-load voltages.

 I would suggest a real power supply which is rated at 4 amps or more for
 the KX3.

 My own KX3 runs off an Astron 30 amp supply and is fused for 10 amps to
 protect the wire from any fault.

 73,
 Don W3FPR
 On 12/18/2012 9:17 PM, Ed Picha wrote:

 KX3 gurus:

 Has anyone found a wall wart they like for the KX3?  Like most hams, I
 have a big box of wall warts, and have tried several different 12 V
 adaptors with the KX3.  They all worked ok for general operation, but I
 noted that when I added the KXBC3 battery charger option to the KX3, I
 really needed an honest 13.8 V or higher to fully charge the internal
 batteries.  Most of the warts I tried had outputs less than 13V, and the
 few that I found that could supply 13.8 V under load had voltages above 15
 V with no load.   I didn't want to take a chance with these by exceeding
 the KX3 upper voltage speceven for the short time that it would take for
 the adaptor voltage to drop.

 My KX3 current drain numbers are (all at 13.8 V):

 receive, with backlight:  0.190 A
 receive while charging batteries: 0.400 A
 transmit, 5W: 1.04 A
 transmit, 10W: 1.91 A

 So, I guess the ideal adaptor would be capable of 2A at 13.8 V to support
 running the radio with no (or fully discharged) batteries at full power,
 and would not exceed 15 V with no load.  While I'm wishing, it would also
 be smalland lightweight.


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Re: [Elecraft] [KX1] Alignment Question

2012-12-18 Thread Chris Johnson
Hi Don,

I am using my elmer's very expensive service monitor to watch the frequency 
that the KX1 is generating.   I set the VFO to a given frequency, type that 
same frequency into the service monitor, then start a solid tune on the KX1.  
There is a BNC cable connected between both devices.   The service monitor then 
shows on its spectrum display the exact frequency the KX1 is generating and 
also shows how many Hz it is deviating from the frequency entered.   Are you 
saying that BFO / DDS settings are only dealing with the RX portion of the KX1? 
  I understand you thinking this because the offset is ~ 600hz, the standard 
offset for CW.   This is not the case, and only happens on 40m.   TX deviation 
on 80m, 30m, and 20m is only off by a few hz.

If this is controlled by the firmware, how can this be calibrated?   I picked 
up a second KX1 off eBay this week for an emergency radio and will also check 
its alignment.

Thx

Chris
K6OZY

On Dec 18, 2012, at 1:26 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Chris,
 
 There is one thing that might produce the condition you state, and that is if 
 you have 40 meters set for USB.  Tap the band button and see if there is a 
 u in the left of the display when the 7 digit is displayed.
 
 The KX1 firmware controls both the transmit and receive frequencies.  The 
 receive frequency is offset by whatever you set into the sidetone pitch, and 
 the frequency indicated on the dial should be the transmit frequency.
 
 So, if the transmit frequency is indeed off, it must be due to the firmware.
 That has nothing to do with the BFO and DDS settings on the KX1.
 
 
 Are you certain the receiver you are using to listen to the KX1 is in CW 
 mode?  If it is in SSB mode, its dial indication may be shifted by the amount 
 that receiver has set in its sidetone pitch parameter.  I know Yaesu changes 
 the displayed frequency when going from SSB to CW, and they shift the 
 transmit frequency when in CW mode.  Elecraft does it differently and always 
 displays the transmit frequency, but shifts the frequency for receive.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 12/18/2012 2:39 PM, Chris Johnson wrote:
 I guess using the word Dial may be misleading.   I am simply trying to say 
 that on 40m the frequency that is being transmitted on is 685 hz higher than 
 what is on the display.   This is only on 40m.  The other 3 bands are pretty 
 accurate.  The BFO and DDS menu options are set to 0.
 
 
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: SPKR+PH - not sticky

2012-12-18 Thread Fred Jensen

On 12/18/2012 5:13 PM, PTA_ABD wrote:

Almost the same problem here. The difference is that toggling SPKR+PH
on and off has no effect. I'm also sure the MCU isn't the reason, as
this popped up well after changing to 4.6, but I suppose there could
be different reasons for you and I.


FWIW:  K3 S/N 642 [i.e. old, at least in K3 Years].  SPKR+PH assigned 
to PF1 [HOLD RIT].  The only macro I have assigned anywhere.  It has 
never failed to work, except before I stuck the K3 down so I could 
really push the buttons. Quite a few other button pushing problems 
went away after I anchored the K3 to the shelf.  Note to self: 
Lightweight is often good, sometimes, not so much].


Full Disclosure:  My Heil ProSet connects on the back connectors.  I 
have never used the front panel connectors, don't know if they even work.


73,

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Re: [Elecraft] Wall wart for KX3

2012-12-18 Thread Bill Frantz
I have been using the Jameco's #319920, 15V regulated wall-wart 
from http://www.jameco.com for my Small Wonder Labs PSK-20 as 
recommended by the kit's designer. I have not noticed any noise 
from the wall wart on 20 meters, the only band supported by the PSK-20.


The wall wart is rated at 18 watts. The PSK-20 has a 5 watt 
transmitter, so I don't know if it will run a KX3 at full power.


Because the rated voltage of the wall wart is the same as the 
KX3's maximum voltage, I would feel safer putting a diode in 
series with it to drop the voltage below the KX3's maximum. A 
single diode should give about 14.3 to 14.5 volts, within the 
KX3's specification and above the 13.8 volts needed for battery charging.


Cheers - Bill, AE6JV

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Has anyone found a wall wart they like for the KX3?


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Re: [Elecraft] [KX1] Alignment Question

2012-12-18 Thread Don Wilhelm

Chris,

Let me be specific and succinct.
There are only 2 conditions that would cause that behavior.
1 - The KX1 is set to receive upper sideband on 40 meters.
2 - the firmware is sending incorrect data to the DDS.

Re-read my last email.
I do not question the accuracy of the service monitor, but I do question 
whether the KX1 is set for USB on 40 meters.  If the KX1 is indeed set 
for NOR (CW) mode, then there is a fault with the firmware.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/18/2012 10:44 PM, Chris Johnson wrote:

Hi Don,

I am using my elmer's very expensive service monitor to watch the frequency 
that the KX1 is generating.   I set the VFO to a given frequency, type that 
same frequency into the service monitor, then start a solid tune on the KX1.  
There is a BNC cable connected between both devices.   The service monitor then 
shows on its spectrum display the exact frequency the KX1 is generating and 
also shows how many Hz it is deviating from the frequency entered.   Are you 
saying that BFO / DDS settings are only dealing with the RX portion of the KX1? 
  I understand you thinking this because the offset is ~ 600hz, the standard 
offset for CW.   This is not the case, and only happens on 40m.   TX deviation 
on 80m, 30m, and 20m is only off by a few hz.

If this is controlled by the firmware, how can this be calibrated?   I picked 
up a second KX1 off eBay this week for an emergency radio and will also check 
its alignment.

Thx

Chris
K6OZY

On Dec 18, 2012, at 1:26 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:


Chris,

There is one thing that might produce the condition you state, and that is if you have 40 meters 
set for USB.  Tap the band button and see if there is a u in the left of the display 
when the 7 digit is displayed.

The KX1 firmware controls both the transmit and receive frequencies.  The 
receive frequency is offset by whatever you set into the sidetone pitch, and 
the frequency indicated on the dial should be the transmit frequency.

So, if the transmit frequency is indeed off, it must be due to the firmware.
That has nothing to do with the BFO and DDS settings on the KX1.


Are you certain the receiver you are using to listen to the KX1 is in CW mode?  
If it is in SSB mode, its dial indication may be shifted by the amount that 
receiver has set in its sidetone pitch parameter.  I know Yaesu changes the 
displayed frequency when going from SSB to CW, and they shift the transmit 
frequency when in CW mode.  Elecraft does it differently and always displays 
the transmit frequency, but shifts the frequency for receive.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/18/2012 2:39 PM, Chris Johnson wrote:

I guess using the word Dial may be misleading.   I am simply trying to say 
that on 40m the frequency that is being transmitted on is 685 hz higher than what is on 
the display.   This is only on 40m.  The other 3 bands are pretty accurate.  The BFO and 
DDS menu options are set to 0.



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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV?

2012-12-18 Thread K7MDL
Could be used for TR signal to a mast preamp or an external amp, but most of
those I have seen need 12V by deafult.  I suspect the 5V is more useful for
transverter TR switching for simplified connections (fewer wires).  You
could have the transverters mounted on a tower making this method more
attractive.  Several transverters support this method of switching.  They in
turn usually have external PTT.  By the time you get a chain of VHF+
equipment hooked up on towers and such, you are probably looking at a
sequencer and/or careful use of indicator contacts on TR relays for positive
switchover control vs a pure timing based operation (hoping the relay
switches in time, every time).



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Re: [Elecraft] Wall wart for KX3

2012-12-18 Thread Josh Lehan
On 12/18/2012 06:17 PM, Ed Picha wrote:
 Has anyone found a wall wart they like for the KX3?  Like most hams, I
 have a big box of wall warts, and have tried several different 12 V
 adaptors with the KX3.  They all worked ok for general operation, but I
 noted that when I added the KXBC3 battery charger option to the KX3, I
 really needed an honest 13.8 V or higher to fully charge the internal
 batteries.  Most of the warts I tried had outputs less than 13V, and the
 few that I found that could supply 13.8 V under load had voltages above
 15 V with no load.   I didn't want to take a chance with these by
 exceeding the KX3 upper voltage speceven for the short time that it
 would take for the adaptor voltage to drop.

I had great luck with an old Toshiba laptop's power supply, that I
bought cheaply at a surplus shop (Halted Electronics).

It was from a time before laptop power supplies became smart, so
there's only 2 leads coming out of it: the DC power.  I cut off the old
Toshiba connector and just connected the bare wires to the supplied
Elecraft connector that also has bare wires, after testing it for
polarity.  The power supply gives a rock solid 15VDC, and it's rated up
to 3A.  My KX3 has no trouble at all when transmitting at the full 12W
power level.  However, I don't have the KXBC3 option, so don't know how
it performs with that.  The model number on it is Toshiba PA2450U.

It is small and lightweight.  It plugs into a 2-prong outlet, not a
3-prong, so I'm assuming it's not grounded.  The only problem is that it
might cause interference/noise.  However, I couldn't notice any.  Where
I'm at, there's a constant buzzing noise all over 40 meters, but the
noise blanker feature of the KX3 seems to solve that.  It's not caused
by this power supply, though: I unplugged it, but the noise remained.

Josh
K6JSH
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Re: [Elecraft] Wall wart for KX3

2012-12-18 Thread Bill Harris
I got a PS for a Respirator from MPJ.  A 12v 4.16 amp unit.  
Runs the K2. and KX3  
It's quite, RF wise.  Take a look at their web site and you will see 16 volt 
units available.
http://www.mpja.com/Desktop-Power-Supplies/products/475/

Ciao

de w7kxb-Bill . .

 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 20:17:55 -0600
 From: n...@comcast.net
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 Subject: [Elecraft] Wall wart for KX3
 
 KX3 gurus:
 
 Has anyone found a wall wart they like for the KX3?  
  
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