Re: [Elecraft] High vertical

2014-10-20 Thread Vic Rosenthal K2VCO/4X6GP

For what it's worth, the R6000 is very different from the R8.

On 20 Oct 2014 05:48, tom...@videotron.ca wrote:

Hi Robert,I can't seem to find any other messages in the reflector
about this topic. But in any case I have owned both a Cushcraft
R6000, and a HyGain AV620.I used both for at least 6 months before
moving to a cushcraft ma5b mini beam. Both antennas seemed to offer
similar performance. In this regard, I would give the edge to the
hy-gain. Both were excellent for dx, I made many qrp qso's from
Montreal to australia. The cushcraft had one annoying feature: The
minute it rained or snowed, the resonance went far off where it was
when dry. 200khz on 20m for example. The elecraft tuner took care of
it but it was annoying. The hygain has a lot of threaded rods which
need to be adjust to reach resonance. These rods are prone to seizing
the nuts on them. But once they re set the antenna never shifted in
resonance. The hygain brought me up to 200+ DXCC's. But I can tell
you this: Both are no substitute for the MA5B. Both are extremely
noisy. The MA5B gives two 2 S unit improvement as a minimum in almost
all cases, but the noise floor dropped 15dB. Anyways, they both are
good antennas, but I would suppliment them with an active antenna and
a noise phaser to null out the noise sources, which improves them
considerably. Hope this helps. Tom va2fsq.com

On 10/19/14, Robert G Strickland  rc...@verizon.net wrote:

Vic... Any thoughts on choosing the Cushcraft over the Hy-Gain for
a vertical? ...robert

On 10/18/2014 14:55, Vic Rosenthal K2VCO/4X6GP wrote:


I put up an R8 vertical on a small building (containing my shack)
that sits on the roof.


-- Robert G Strickland, PhD ABPH - KE2WY rc...@verizon.net.usa
Syracuse, New York, USA



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[Elecraft] KX3 - dBV question

2014-10-20 Thread DL6OAP
Hi,

I have been playing around with the dBV-Feature of my KX3 for some time. I
understood how to use it and that it measures a relative input level into
the AF stage of the KX3, but my question is if there is any kind of data
processing involved, in other words: the display is updated roughly once in
a second, and my question is if is the input level to the AF stage just
being sampled once a second, is the value being displayed something like the
peak level that occured during this one second interval between two updates
of the value or is something like the average of the signal level during
this second being displayed?

We have been discussing the system advantage of CW compared to SSB in the
german QRP facebook group, I tried to measure my personal ability to copy
weak SSB and CW signals by using this dBV display, but am not sure, if I can
compare the values directly, since I do not know how the data is being
generated and processed. Maybe someone on the list or at Elecraft can help
me out.


Vy 73

Ralf, DL6OAP




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Re: [Elecraft] High vertical

2014-10-20 Thread Charlie T, K3ICH
I'm assuming you DO know that MFJ now owns Cush-Craft as well as Hy-Gain. 
Check the addresses in their ads.


Starkville Miss.

73, Charlie k3ICH


- Original Message - 
From: Vic Rosenthal K2VCO/4X6GP k2vco@gmail.com

To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 1:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] High vertical


The main reason is that the Cushcraft R8 was one of the antennas in the 
comparison report on verticals by N0AX and K7LXC (cost $20 but worth it) 
here:


http://www.championradio.com/HF-VERTICAL-PERFORMANCE-TEST-METHODS-RESULTS.3

The Hy-Gain AV-640 is very similar, but appears to have a little more top 
loading and is a bit shorter. It is also less expensive.


Incidentally, yesterday afternoon we had a storm with remarkably high 
winds. I went up to look at the antenna and had to take care not to be 
blown down. I was /very/ glad I had guyed it at two locations. I may even 
add a third set of guys.


On 20 Oct 2014 05:28, Robert G Strickland wrote:

Vic...
Any thoughts on choosing the Cushcraft over the Hy-Gain for a vertical?
...robert

On 10/18/2014 14:55, Vic Rosenthal K2VCO/4X6GP wrote:


I put up an R8 vertical on a small building (containing my shack) that
sits on the roof.




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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - dBV question

2014-10-20 Thread Lyle
The DSP uses audio samples at a 12 kHz rate and performs a true RMS calculation 
on the samples.  The result is computed over the display update time (1 
second?) the buffer flushed and the process repeated..

73,

Lyle KK7P

 ... but am not sure, if I can
 compare the values directly, since I do not know how the data is being
 generated and processed. Maybe someone on the list or at Elecraft can help
 me out.
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Re: [Elecraft] High vertical

2014-10-20 Thread Vic Rosenthal

Of course. So what? They are different antennas.

On 20 Oct 2014 15:14, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote:

I'm assuming you DO know that MFJ now owns Cush-Craft as well as
Hy-Gain. Check the addresses in their ads.

Starkville Miss.

73, Charlie k3ICH


- Original Message - From: Vic Rosenthal K2VCO/4X6GP
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] High vertical



The main reason is that the Cushcraft R8 was one of the antennas in
the comparison report on verticals by N0AX and K7LXC (cost $20 but
worth it) here:

http://www.championradio.com/HF-VERTICAL-PERFORMANCE-TEST-METHODS-RESULTS.3


The Hy-Gain AV-640 is very similar, but appears to have a little more
top loading and is a bit shorter. It is also less expensive.

Incidentally, yesterday afternoon we had a storm with remarkably high
winds. I went up to look at the antenna and had to take care not to be
blown down. I was /very/ glad I had guyed it at two locations. I may
even add a third set of guys.

On 20 Oct 2014 05:28, Robert G Strickland wrote:

Vic...
Any thoughts on choosing the Cushcraft over the Hy-Gain for a vertical?
...robert

On 10/18/2014 14:55, Vic Rosenthal K2VCO/4X6GP wrote:


I put up an R8 vertical on a small building (containing my shack) that
sits on the roof.




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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - dBV question

2014-10-20 Thread Ralf Wilhelm
Hi Lyle,

So I actually measure a quantity that is proportional to the energy (signal + 
noise) that has been collected in the display update time, am I getting this 
right?

Greetings

Ralf, DL6OAP



Am 20.10.2014 um 14:31 schrieb Lyle

 The DSP uses audio samples at a 12 kHz rate and performs a true RMS 
 calculation on the samples.  The result is computed over the display update 
 time (1 second?) the buffer flushed and the process repeated..
 
 73,
 
 Lyle KK7P
 
 ... but am not sure, if I can
 compare the values directly, since I do not know how the data is being
 generated and processed. Maybe someone on the list or at Elecraft can help
 me out.
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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 User Help Needed PLS

2014-10-20 Thread kb0ne....@gmail.com
What else do I need to turn on in the KX3?

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Jim,
   It's advisable to do the opposite sideband reduction procedure also
listed in the PX3 manual.   What this buys you is the elimination of extra
bogus signals that show up on the PX3 display which are generated inside
the KX3.   The adjustment actually adjusts the KX3 by using the built in
signal generator and software control of the PX3.

   Be sure to follow the instructions as written/shown.

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Re: [Elecraft] High vertical

2014-10-20 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


 The Hy-Gain AV-640 is very similar, but appears to have a little more
 top loading and is a bit shorter. It is also less expensive.

The Hy-Gain AV series verticals are electrically similar to the
Cushcraft equivalents.  However, the Hy-Gain antennas seem to be less
mechanically robust and reports I've received from Hy-Gain owners 
indicate the finish is less on the Hy-Gain than the Cushcraft (even

though both are MFJ companies).

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2014-10-20 1:57 AM, Vic Rosenthal K2VCO/4X6GP wrote:

The main reason is that the Cushcraft R8 was one of the antennas in the
comparison report on verticals by N0AX and K7LXC (cost $20 but worth it)
here:

http://www.championradio.com/HF-VERTICAL-PERFORMANCE-TEST-METHODS-RESULTS.3


The Hy-Gain AV-640 is very similar, but appears to have a little more
top loading and is a bit shorter. It is also less expensive.

Incidentally, yesterday afternoon we had a storm with remarkably high
winds. I went up to look at the antenna and had to take care not to be
blown down. I was /very/ glad I had guyed it at two locations. I may
even add a third set of guys.

On 20 Oct 2014 05:28, Robert G Strickland wrote:

Vic...
Any thoughts on choosing the Cushcraft over the Hy-Gain for a vertical?
...robert

On 10/18/2014 14:55, Vic Rosenthal K2VCO/4X6GP wrote:


I put up an R8 vertical on a small building (containing my shack) that
sits on the roof.





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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 User Help Needed PLS

2014-10-20 Thread kb0ne....@gmail.com
RE Power cable:
  Forgot to add: why don't you just put a fuse holder and a 1 amp fuse in
series with the power cable that came with the PX3?
The PX3 will draw considerably less current than 1 amp.   Also mentioned in
the manual is that you need to make sure the voltage polarity of the cable
is correct and to plug the cable in before applying power to prevent
accidentally shorting of the center conductor in the plug while trying to
plug in.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - dBV question

2014-10-20 Thread Matt Zilmer
Hi Ralf,

Lyle explained how the dBV value is derived.  It's a pretty useful
measurement.

One way to use it is to disable AGC, then measure different signal
levels.  This makes dBV a linear measurement, up until the signal
level causes hardware AGC to activate.  

Be cautious with your hearing when AGC is disabled.

73,
matt
W6NIA

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 01:45:24 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

Hi,

I have been playing around with the dBV-Feature of my KX3 for some time. I
understood how to use it and that it measures a relative input level into
the AF stage of the KX3, but my question is if there is any kind of data
processing involved, in other words: the display is updated roughly once in
a second, and my question is if is the input level to the AF stage just
being sampled once a second, is the value being displayed something like the
peak level that occured during this one second interval between two updates
of the value or is something like the average of the signal level during
this second being displayed?

We have been discussing the system advantage of CW compared to SSB in the
german QRP facebook group, I tried to measure my personal ability to copy
weak SSB and CW signals by using this dBV display, but am not sure, if I can
compare the values directly, since I do not know how the data is being
generated and processed. Maybe someone on the list or at Elecraft can help
me out.


Vy 73

Ralf, DL6OAP
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[Elecraft] P3 shows vertical green stripes on waterfall

2014-10-20 Thread jsdroyster
Hello all, I am trying to figure out why our P3 panadapter sometimes but not 
always shows a group of vertical green stripes that cover about 1/6 of the 
width of the screen.  These stripes are not related to RF frequency because if 
I switch bands they remain in the same location.  If I remain on one band and 
twirl the VFO knob, real radio signals move into the green stripes but the 
stripes themselves are immobile.  

Sometimes these are not there at all. Sometimes they are near the left of the 
screen, more often toward the middle.

Wayne gave some instructions for investigating this on PX3,but this is P3.
Any ideas?

Am I correct that these cannot be related to real RF interference due to the 
above facts? Wouldn't real RF be frequency-related? We do sometimes get RF 
interference that shows as periodic narrow lines on the waterfall, but these 
wide stripes are different.

THANKS!
Julie KT4JR

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 shows vertical green stripes on waterfall

2014-10-20 Thread Vic Rosenthal K2VCO/4X6GP
Various kinds of 'junk' on the screen have been reported to be caused by 
coax jumpers with poor shield contact at one or both ends. Try another 
cable if you haven't already.


On 20 Oct 2014 17:08, jsdroys...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Hello all, I am trying to figure out why our P3 panadapter sometimes
but not always shows a group of vertical green stripes that cover
about 1/6 of the width of the screen.  These stripes are not related
to RF frequency because if I switch bands they remain in the same
location.  If I remain on one band and twirl the VFO knob, real radio
signals move into the green stripes but the stripes themselves are
immobile.

Sometimes these are not there at all. Sometimes they are near the
left of the screen, more often toward the middle.

Wayne gave some instructions for investigating this on PX3,but this
is P3. Any ideas?

Am I correct that these cannot be related to real RF interference due
to the above facts? Wouldn't real RF be frequency-related? We do
sometimes get RF interference that shows as periodic narrow lines on
the waterfall, but these wide stripes are different.

THANKS! Julie KT4JR



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Re: [Elecraft] (no subject)

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[Elecraft] KX3/PX3 RIT Question

2014-10-20 Thread K3WWP
When I use the KX3 RIT, I get a red 'transmit' cursor on the PX3 which is
great. However when I press the 'B' knob to reset the RIT to zero, the RIT
resets, but the red cursor remains on the PX3 until I slightly turn the 'B'
knob, then it disappears. Just turning the 'B' knob (without pressing it) to
reset the RIT to zero gets rid of the red cursor as soon as zero is reached.
Everything works fine with Split. Turning off Split gets rid of the red
cursor immediately. I haven't tried XIT to see what happens with it because
I never use XIT. Any ideas what's going on?

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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB net results for 10/19/2014

2014-10-20 Thread Phil Shepard
Here is the net report for the Elecraft SSB net from October 19, 2014.  We had 
27 participants.  

Station NameQTH Rig S/N

K4GCJ   Gerry   NC  K3  1597
NC0JW   Jim CO  KX3 1356
WB5JJA  Roy OK  K3  7877
WO1IDickMA  K3  911
K1NWBrian   RI  K3  4974
W8OVDaveTX  K3  3139
KF5IMA  Bruce   TX  K2  3575
K8NUCarlOH  K3  7976
K2TNQ   Len NJ  K3  5270
W0FMTerry   MO  K3  474
K6DSW   Don CA  K3  3138
KF7JZH  Ron ID  KX3 2262
QRP
W4RKS   Jim TX  K3  3618
AD5IJ   Howard  OR  KX3 5178QRP
KK5IB   Darryl  AR  K3  7167
WW4JF   JohnTN  K3  6185
W1ISBob MA  K3  6762
N6JWJohnCA  K3  936
KN5LJohnTX  K3  4448
W4STN   BillGA  KX3 4330
WB7SOE  EricWA  K3  8132
W7JJL   JohnWA  KX3 993
KK4QDZ  BillNC  KX3 4515
W7QHD   KurtAZ  K2  1538
K6WDE   DaveHI  KX3 4599
ZL1PWD  Peter   NZ  K3  139
NS7PPhilOR  K3  1826

Correction:  Last week’s report listed Cary as W4TM.  His call is actually 
K4TM.  Sorry, Cary.

73,
Phil, NS7P
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Re: [Elecraft] (no subject)

2014-10-20 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
This would be from someone whose email has been hacked. It's spam for a
diet product.  73, Guy

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 shows vertical green stripes on waterfall

2014-10-20 Thread Dominic Baines
Sound like TFT screen h/w related I got a laptop that does something 
similar with an external monitor IF the screen cable gets kinked or is 
not connected properly. Check all the cables and connectors and vertical 
lines or a somewhat 'green' image cleans up. I'd take a look at the P3 
connections and cables.


72

Dom
M1KTA


On 20/10/14 15:08, jsdroys...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Hello all, I am trying to figure out why our P3 panadapter sometimes but not 
always shows a group of vertical green stripes that cover about 1/6 of the 
width of the screen.  These stripes are not related to RF frequency because if 
I switch bands they remain in the same location.  If I remain on one band and 
twirl the VFO knob, real radio signals move into the green stripes but the 
stripes themselves are immobile.

Sometimes these are not there at all. Sometimes they are near the left of the 
screen, more often toward the middle.

Wayne gave some instructions for investigating this on PX3,but this is P3.
Any ideas?

Am I correct that these cannot be related to real RF interference due to the 
above facts? Wouldn't real RF be frequency-related? We do sometimes get RF 
interference that shows as periodic narrow lines on the waterfall, but these 
wide stripes are different.

THANKS!
Julie KT4JR

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 shows vertical green stripes on waterfall

2014-10-20 Thread Paul Saffren N6HZ
Hi Julie, 

It almost sounds like you have the span set very narrow and what you are
seeing is the center frequency marker.   What happens when you adjust the
span, does the green stripe change width?  If you would, please take a
screen shot of the display using the P3 Utility and email it to me.  My
email is pauls at elecraft

Kind regards, 

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3/PX3 RIT Question

2014-10-20 Thread Paul Saffren N6HZ
Hi John, 

I just verified this on my unit here at Elecraft.  Thanks, it looks like you
found a bug between the KX3 and PX3.  I think the KX3 is probably not
telling the PX3 that the RIT was cleared. 


Kind regards, 

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Re: [Elecraft] High vertical

2014-10-20 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
They will be as long as MFJ leaves them as separate operations and 
builds the same antennas.


When they start reducing redundancy and merging the engineering groups, 
they'll become more similar until the only difference is branding.


On 10/20/2014 6:35 AM, Vic Rosenthal wrote:

Of course. So what? They are different antennas.

On 20 Oct 2014 15:14, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote:

I'm assuming you DO know that MFJ now owns Cush-Craft as well as
Hy-Gain. Check the addresses in their ads.

Starkville Miss.

73, Charlie k3ICH


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Re: [Elecraft] (no subject)

2014-10-20 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
I would hope we're all smart enough to not even click on the links.  
There are too many browse-by viruses out there.


On 10/20/2014 9:30 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

This would be from someone whose email has been hacked. It's spam for a
diet product.  73, Guy




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Re: [Elecraft] High vertical

2014-10-20 Thread Doug Turnbull
Friends,
 I am a MFJ fan but would not reckon HyGain or Cush-Craft employ
engineers these days.   There has not been a new product from either of
these makes in many years.I am still glad though that the likes of my
first commercial antenna a 14 AVS now 14 AVQ is available.The Hy-Gain
mono-banders were not such bad antennas and at least one can still install
them.   Yes, maybe quality has dropped but they would not be with us at all
but for MFJ.

   73   Doug EI2CN   

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Lynn
W. Taylor, WB6UUT
Sent: 20 October 2014 18:36
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] High vertical

They will be as long as MFJ leaves them as separate operations and 
builds the same antennas.

When they start reducing redundancy and merging the engineering groups, 
they'll become more similar until the only difference is branding.

On 10/20/2014 6:35 AM, Vic Rosenthal wrote:
 Of course. So what? They are different antennas.

 On 20 Oct 2014 15:14, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote:
 I'm assuming you DO know that MFJ now owns Cush-Craft as well as
 Hy-Gain. Check the addresses in their ads.

 Starkville Miss.

 73, Charlie k3ICH

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[Elecraft] K3 on 40 meters

2014-10-20 Thread Gene
I have noticed that signals on 40 meters do not appear very strong on my 
K3.  The audio and signal strength is very low. Other hams in the area 
hear signals S9 +5 while these only register S1 at best on the K3. 
Antenna type and height are almost identical as I have.


Attenuator is not on and noise reduction has minimal effect. Turning up 
the RF gain does not help. Signals on other bands seem to be normal.  
Has anyone experienced this?


Gene,
W2BXR
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 on 40 meters

2014-10-20 Thread Augie Gus Hansen


On 10/20/2014 5:09 PM, Gene wrote:
I have noticed that signals on 40 meters do not appear very strong on 
my K3.  The audio and signal strength is very low. Other hams in the 
area hear signals S9 +5 while these only register S1 at best on the 
K3. Antenna type and height are almost identical as I have.


Attenuator is not on and noise reduction has minimal effect. Turning 
up the RF gain does not help. Signals on other bands seem to be 
normal.  Has anyone experienced this?


Check to be sure you don't have the RX antenna input selected on 40m 
without an RX antenna connected. This feature is remembered per band.


Gus Hansen
KB0YH

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 on 40 meters

2014-10-20 Thread Don Wilhelm

Gene,

Do you have the correct antenna input selected?  ANT1/2 if the KAT3 is 
installed, or RX ANT if the KXV3 is installed.  It sounds like you may 
have the RX ANT selected rather than the main antenna.  That is a 
per-band setting, so it would only be a problem on one band.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/20/2014 7:09 PM, Gene wrote:
I have noticed that signals on 40 meters do not appear very strong on 
my K3.  The audio and signal strength is very low. Other hams in the 
area hear signals S9 +5 while these only register S1 at best on the 
K3. Antenna type and height are almost identical as I have.


Attenuator is not on and noise reduction has minimal effect. Turning 
up the RF gain does not help. Signals on other bands seem to be 
normal.  Has anyone experienced this?




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[Elecraft] K3 on 40 meters

2014-10-20 Thread Gene

Problems solved.  I had RX on by mistake and only on 40.

Thanks to all that responded.

73, Gene
W2BXR
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 on 40 meters

2014-10-20 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Dear Gene,

:))

Please note that at last count 98.91% of all K3 owners have pulled that
wrong antenna per band stunt on themselves and spent at least an hour
looking elsewhere for the problem. 95% of the 98.91 have done it twice. 90%
of the 95 have done it three times or more. 50% of the 90 have trouble
remembering that for more than six months at a stretch and do it again on a
more or less semi-annual basis.

Those of us who have officially become olde phartes, no longer report such
events to the statistical data base, and have no intention whatsoever of
telling anyone how many times we *really* do that to ourselves.

The price for all that wonderful K3 technical flexibility.

In any event, welcome to the Royalle Fraternitie of RX Antennae Selection
F***-Ups. You have arrived.

73, Guy.



On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Gene,

 Do you have the correct antenna input selected?  ANT1/2 if the KAT3 is
 installed, or RX ANT if the KXV3 is installed.  It sounds like you may have
 the RX ANT selected rather than the main antenna.  That is a per-band
 setting, so it would only be a problem on one band.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 On 10/20/2014 7:09 PM, Gene wrote:

 I have noticed that signals on 40 meters do not appear very strong on my
 K3.  The audio and signal strength is very low. Other hams in the area hear
 signals S9 +5 while these only register S1 at best on the K3. Antenna type
 and height are almost identical as I have.

 Attenuator is not on and noise reduction has minimal effect. Turning up
 the RF gain does not help. Signals on other bands seem to be normal.  Has
 anyone experienced this?


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 on 40 meters

2014-10-20 Thread Fred Jensen
Aside from the well known fact that 86.41% of the adult population makes 
up their own statistics, I'm part of Guy's 98.91%.  30m was dead and 
infinite SWR.  Wayne called me, said Let's start with the easy part 
... and everyone can finish the story.  I've now done it twice on my K3, 
second time I knew what to check.  I had this same problem on 2m with my 
FT-847 on 2m FM, couldn't raise the local repeater ... 2m coax connected 
to the 6m connector, nothing in the 2m connector.  No one called me from 
Japan. :-((


73,

Fred K6DGW
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- CU in the 2015 Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
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On 10/20/2014 5:18 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

Dear Gene,

:))

Please note that at last count 98.91% of all K3 owners have pulled that
wrong antenna per band stunt on themselves and spent at least an hour
looking elsewhere for the problem. 95% of the 98.91 have done it twice. 90%
of the 95 have done it three times or more. 50% of the 90 have trouble
remembering that for more than six months at a stretch and do it again on a
more or less semi-annual basis.

Those of us who have officially become olde phartes, no longer report such
events to the statistical data base, and have no intention whatsoever of
telling anyone how many times we *really* do that to ourselves.

The price for all that wonderful K3 technical flexibility.

In any event, welcome to the Royalle Fraternitie of RX Antennae Selection
F***-Ups. You have arrived.



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 on 40 meters

2014-10-20 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT

Besides, 87.4% of all statistics are made up.

On 10/20/2014 5:18 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

Those of us who have officially become olde phartes, no longer report such
events to the statistical data base, and have no intention whatsoever of
telling anyone how many times we*really*  do that to ourselves.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 on 40 meters

2014-10-20 Thread Phil Hystad
 Besides, 87.4% of all statistics are made up.


Therefore, it is very likely you just made up that number 87.4%.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 on 40 meters

2014-10-20 Thread Terry
Numbers are like people.  If you torture them enough they will tell you 
what you want.


Terry, KQ5U


On 10/20/2014 9:14 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:

Besides, 87.4% of all statistics are made up.


Therefore, it is very likely you just made up that number 87.4%.
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[Elecraft] Coiled Coax Choke

2014-10-20 Thread Dauer, Edward
I am thinking of adding a coiled coax common-mode choke to my system.
Presently it goes K3-KPA500-KAT500 then 100 ft coax to the base of an
inverted Vee¹s center support pole (collapsible fiberglass), then 30 feet
up the pole to a 1:1 balun feeding a fanned 10-15-20 Vee.  The idea, for a
couple of reasons, is to put the choke at the base of the pole, something
I haven¹t seen discussed in the literature.  Two questions I am wondering
about:  1. The choke would be 100 feet from the tuner and about 25 feet
from the antenna/balun.  Probably not as good as having it right at the
Vee, but is that compromise worth while?  2.  For appearance sake I am
thinking about winding the coax around the base of the support pole.  It
is 2 inches in diameter but I could slip a 3 inch PVC over that section to
increase the diameter.  Anyone know an algorithm for determining the
number of turns in the winding if I do that?  I would be much obliged for
any thoughts and suggestions . . .   Tnx!

Ted, KN1CBR

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Re: [Elecraft] Coiled Coax Choke

2014-10-20 Thread Walter Underwood
A choke in the middle of the transmission line could help, but the usual 
configuration is a current balun at the antenna to reject common-mode signals 
at the source, plus an optional choke at the entrance to the shack to reject 
noise picked up by the outside of the coax shield.

A coiled-coax choke works OK, but you get the best rejection from a 
toroid-based choke or balun. I’ve had good results with the ones from Balun 
Designs (http://www.balundesigns.com).

Putting a Balun Designs balun at my dipole dropped the noise by 6dB.

I highly recommend K9YC’s super-detailed explanation of fighting noise in your 
antenna and elsewhere in your shack.

http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf

wunder
K6WRU
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/

On Oct 20, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Dauer, Edward eda...@law.du.edu wrote:

 I am thinking of adding a coiled coax common-mode choke to my system.
 Presently it goes K3-KPA500-KAT500 then 100 ft coax to the base of an
 inverted Vee¹s center support pole (collapsible fiberglass), then 30 feet
 up the pole to a 1:1 balun feeding a fanned 10-15-20 Vee.  The idea, for a
 couple of reasons, is to put the choke at the base of the pole, something
 I haven¹t seen discussed in the literature.  Two questions I am wondering
 about:  1. The choke would be 100 feet from the tuner and about 25 feet
 from the antenna/balun.  Probably not as good as having it right at the
 Vee, but is that compromise worth while?  2.  For appearance sake I am
 thinking about winding the coax around the base of the support pole.  It
 is 2 inches in diameter but I could slip a 3 inch PVC over that section to
 increase the diameter.  Anyone know an algorithm for determining the
 number of turns in the winding if I do that?  I would be much obliged for
 any thoughts and suggestions . . .   Tnx!
 
 Ted, KN1CBR
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Coiled Coax Choke

2014-10-20 Thread Fred Jensen

On 10/20/2014 7:28 PM, Dauer, Edward wrote:


I am thinking of adding a coiled coax common-mode choke to my system.
Presently it goes K3-KPA500-KAT500 then 100 ft coax to the base of an
inverted Vee¹s center support pole (collapsible fiberglass), then 30 feet
up the pole to a 1:1 balun feeding a fanned 10-15-20 Vee.  The idea, for a
couple of reasons, is to put the choke at the base of the pole, something
I haven¹t seen discussed in the literature.


Are you having common-mode RF problems in your shack?

Two questions I am wondering

about:  1. The choke would be 100 feet from the tuner and about 25 feet
from the antenna/balun.  Probably not as good as having it right at the
Vee, but is that compromise worth while?


Maybe, every installation is unique.

2.  For appearance sake I am

thinking about winding the coax around the base of the support pole.  It
is 2 inches in diameter but I could slip a 3 inch PVC over that section to
increase the diameter.


If you're having RFITS problems [RF In The Shack], there are better 
and far less visually obvious ways to suppress that using common mode 
ferrite chokes than winding up your coax around anything.  If you don't 
have RFITS problems, nothing might be the best course of action



Anyone know an algorithm for determining the
number of turns in the winding if I do that?


Air inductor equations are in the ARRL Handbook and ARRL Antenna Book. 
If you really need to do this, I'll suggest you look at the publications 
from Jim, K9YC, at audiosystems.com first ... he pretty well has this 
subject knocked.


73,

Fred K6DGW
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Re: [Elecraft] Coiled Coax Choke

2014-10-20 Thread Jim Brown

On 10/20/2014 7:28 PM, Dauer, Edward wrote:

I am thinking of adding a coiled coax common-mode choke to my system.


Although it's all over the literature, a coil of coax is NOT an 
effective common mode choke. I've discussed this at length in 
k9yc.com/RFI-Ham.pdf


What do you mean by antenna/balun? The word balun describes at least 
a dozen different things. What problem are you trying to solve?


73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] FS: K2 QRP 100 watt amp/tuner in EC 2.

2014-10-20 Thread edward kacura via Elecraft
I'm downsizing since retirement earlier this year, will be on the road with the 
travel trailer. These item need a new home instead of sitting packed away. I 
have my KX3, PX3 along with the KXPA 100, it all fits nicely in the trailer.

The K2, s/n 6576, was built in late 2011 by Dale Putnam WC7S, with the complete 
Rework Eliminator kit.
Installed in it are SSB option, Antenna tuner, KDSP2 filter with clock, KIO2 
RS-232 interface, KBT2 battery kit, no battery.There's an unbuilt noise 
blanker. There's a weighted VFO knob installed, and an extra top cabinet panel 
with speaker installed.

All the manuals included, along with a MH-2 hand mic and headset adapter. 
There's two unopened Rework Eliminator kits, KXPD1 clamp for the KX1 paddles to 
mount to the K2 bail, a cable for connecting the NUE-PSK modem (modem not 
included).

In a separate enclosure is the KPA/KAT 100 amp/tuner with cables to hook to the 
K2. Both radio and amp are in great condition. Asking $1500.00 for the package, 
new this would cost almost $2400.00..

I will double box and insure, and pay the shipping, only lower 48 thou, no 
overseas. Paypal, or money order works for me. You will get two boxes with the 
K2.

As with all used electronic equipment, there's no return or refund. You will 
get working radios when they leave me.

Contact me off-line at ekac...@yahoo.com mailto:ekac...@yahoo.com, or call my 
cell and leave a msg. 520-490-5395. ( I don't always hear the cell with my 
hearing aids)
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