Re: [Elecraft] XV144 transverter firmware

2015-07-05 Thread f5bqp_pfm

Hi Bob,

Thanks again for your quick response, don't know if you're part of the 
Elecraft team, if yes then congrats for that, excellent products with 
like everywhere some deficiencies to be corrected.
One of these into your XVxxx transverters are the local oscillators 
which these days are out of scope of the actual technologies, specially 
due the digital modulations requiring much more stability than a single 
XTAL (even equipped with a heater).
I'm going to replace the Xtal oscillator of my XV144 with a clean 116MHZ 
PLL synced 10MHZ, place a small smd PAT-2+ or 3+ (2 or 3db depending of 
my stock) pad behind the mixer LO input as I'm not sure the 50Z 
adaptation is perfect, and adjust the LO level at its maximum between 17 
to 20dbm according the mixer datasheet to increase the IP3 to the max 
possible with this ADEX-10H mixer.
I know these transverters have been designed many years ago for the k2 
line, may be now it's time to revamp them a bit with some new 
technologies to improve their performances at a level of some other 
competitive products.
For me the main advantage of these transverters is the 
interfacing/switching management within the k3 line and the nice 
packaging within the line but the RF performances are becoming a bit 
obsolete.


Best 73's
Pierre-Francois, F5BQP


Le 05/07/2015 07:20, Robert Friess a écrit :

Rev 1.6E is the latest firmware.

73,
Bob, N6CM

On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Pierre-François (f5bqp_pfm) 
pfmo...@wanadoo.fr mailto:pfmo...@wanadoo.fr wrote:


Hi the Group,

What is the latest firmware revision of the processor (PIC
16F872/1 SP) which is located on the front board of the XV144
transverter?
The transverter I got has a PIC 16F872/1 SP with a sticker XV1.60E
and the RF Board (main board) is Rev C , I guess it's a pretty old
transverter.

Should I upgrade the firmware located in the PIC to a newer rev if
there is one and what enhencements it would bring?

Thanks in advance for your repplies.
Best 73's
Pierre-Francois, F5BQP

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[Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
New to the Reflector and new to Elecraft with a K3S on order,  what is 
suggested for a microphone.  Objective is excellent audio with little 
interest in contesting.   My thoughts and suggestion from another source 
is the Heli PR871.


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[Elecraft] Firmware update

2015-07-05 Thread Alfredo Velez WP3C via Elecraft
HI

I can’t download the last firmware in the page, does anyone knows if the web is 
offline? 

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http://www.wp3c.comule.com/
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Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread Matt Zilmer
I use three different types of microphones on the K3, all with similar
results -

- Heil Goldline with H4 and H5 elements, for use in ham shack
- Yamaha CM500 headset, for when the ham shack gets noisy
- A cheap-o computer headset, very lightweight, for field work

The main control to use in set up is the TX EQ.  There are good
guidelines from others on how to set the band gains up.  Using the EQ,
all three mics sounds about the same.

For the EQ, I set the bottom three bands as low as they'll go (-16
dB), then bring it up to 2 dB at 400 Hz, and have some midrange gain
through 3.2 KHz.  The energy below 400 Hz is not useful for
intelligibility.  Others can advise you on exact settings, because
they're audio pros.  Their advice is worth following, imho.

73,
matt
W6NIA

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New to the Reflector and new to Elecraft with a K3S on order,  what is 
suggested for a microphone.  Objective is excellent audio with little 
interest in contesting.   My thoughts and suggestion from another source 
is the Heli PR871.
Matt Zilmer, W6NIA
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Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


 Someone suggested the Heil PR 781 as a good choice.

The Heil PR-781 is grossly overpriced.  Any quality dynamic mic will
work very well with the K3/K3S.  For a hand mic look at a Kenwood
MC43S (connector matches the K3) or  Shure 514B or 596B ($43 at BH
Photovideo).  For a stick mic to be mounted on gooseneck/boom, look
at a Shure PGA48 ($35 at BH Photovideo).  If you need an off the
shelf amateur mic, the Kenwood MC60A works fine if you keep the
internal preamp turned off (otherwise it requires a minor rewiring
of the mic plug).

Other manufacturers communications/paging mics can be substituted
for the Shure but they are a good value for reasonable quality.
73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-07-05 9:18 AM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:

Dave:

Thanks for the suggestion.  I normally do not use a headset thus I'm
interested in only a microphone.  I have a pair of nice Sony
Professional headphones .. when I use headphones.

Someone suggested the Heil PR 781 as a good choice.

73 Bob, K4TAX

On 7/5/2015 8:08 AM, David Bunte wrote:


Bob -

I am a CW operator, but wanted to be able to work SSB from time to
time.  I heard so many K3 users suggest the Yamaha CM500, that I tried
one... in part because the Heil Pro set I had was not comfortable for
me.  I can wear it for hours, and when I have used it on SSB I have
received very good reports.

A friend recently got a K3 and also got the CM500. The first time he
used the radio was in a state QSO party. He made LOTS of contacts, and
took first place in his class.  That was his intent... but he was
surprised, and very pleased, by the number of folks who took time
during the contest to tell him that he had outstanding audio. He used
a Heil headset in the past 20 or so QSO parties he entered, with first
place finishes in about half of them, and NEVER got unsolicited
compliments on his audio.  That, was, of course, also with a different
radio.

Many folks have achieved EXCELLENT results for VERY few dollars, by
mounting an electret element (for just a few dollars), In some manner
of their own design, and have been happy.  I liked the convince of the
Yamaha, which plug right into the rear jacks on the K3 (K3S is the
same)... with no need for adaptors, or connector changes.

Best of luck es 73 de Dave - K9FN

On Jul 5, 2015 8:35 AM, Mike Reublin NF4L n...@comcast.net
mailto:n...@comcast.net wrote:

The K3S has so much audio tailoring built in, pretty much any mic,
when properly set up, will garner good audio reports. There's no
need to spend cubic dollars on microphones.
73, Mike NF4L


 On Jul 5, 2015, at 7:59 AM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX
rmcg...@blomand.net mailto:rmcg...@blomand.net wrote:

 New to the Reflector and new to Elecraft with a K3S on order,
what is suggested for a microphone.  Objective is excellent audio
with little interest in contesting.   My thoughts and suggestion
from another source is the Heli PR871.

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Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread David Ahrendts
Bob, you’ll get a hundred suggestions on this list, but the Heil PR781 is a 
superb choice. Or the Heil Gold Elite. I use the PR781 with the W2IHY EQPlus 
and 8-band EQ and the combo of the already top notch mich and EQ are superb. 
Additionally, pushing that fidelity into Elecraft’s ESSB (up to 4kHz) produces 
an extraordinary result. Best wishes. Happy to demo for you — contact me off 
list and we can set up a 20M QSO.

David Ahrendts, KC0XT, Los Angeles

 On Jul 5, 2015, at 4:59 AM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX rmcg...@blomand.net wrote:
 
 New to the Reflector and new to Elecraft with a K3S on order,  what is 
 suggested for a microphone.  Objective is excellent audio with little 
 interest in contesting.   My thoughts and suggestion from another source is 
 the Heli PR871.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread Bill
I use a Shure 514B - bullet proof handmic with no switch noise and 
excellent audio properties. Tailoring of the TX EQ completes the job.


Hint: Have one or two trusted friends listen to your signal while 
adjusting the EQ - they know your voice and what you should sound like. 
Too much help will just muddy the waters.


Want a good desk mic? Anything you can put in an arm will do (gets it 
off the desk) - and the EQ does all the rest. No need to spend mega 
dollars (that is what you have a K3/K3S for).


Bill W2BLC K-Line


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Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Dave:

Thanks for the suggestion.  I normally do not use a headset thus I'm 
interested in only a microphone.  I have a pair of nice Sony 
Professional headphones .. when I use headphones.


Someone suggested the Heil PR 781 as a good choice.

73 Bob, K4TAX

On 7/5/2015 8:08 AM, David Bunte wrote:


Bob -

I am a CW operator, but wanted to be able to work SSB from time to 
time.  I heard so many K3 users suggest the Yamaha CM500, that I  
tried one... in part because the Heil Pro set I had was not 
comfortable for me.  I can wear it for hours, and when I have used it 
on SSB I have received very good reports.


A friend recently got a K3 and also got the CM500. The first time he 
used the radio was in a state QSO party. He made LOTS of contacts, and 
took first place in his class.  That was his intent... but he was 
surprised, and very pleased, by the number of folks who took time 
during the contest to tell him that he had outstanding audio. He used 
a Heil headset in the past 20 or so QSO parties he entered, with first 
place finishes in about half of them, and NEVER got unsolicited 
compliments on his audio.  That, was, of course, also with a different 
radio.


Many folks have achieved EXCELLENT results for VERY few dollars, by 
mounting an electret element (for just a few dollars), In some manner 
of their own design, and have been happy.  I liked the convince of the 
Yamaha, which plug right into the rear jacks on the K3 (K3S is the 
same)... with no need for adaptors, or connector changes.


Best of luck es 73 de Dave - K9FN

On Jul 5, 2015 8:35 AM, Mike Reublin NF4L n...@comcast.net 
mailto:n...@comcast.net wrote:


The K3S has so much audio tailoring built in, pretty much any mic,
when properly set up, will garner good audio reports. There's no
need to spend cubic dollars on microphones.
73, Mike NF4L


 On Jul 5, 2015, at 7:59 AM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX
rmcg...@blomand.net mailto:rmcg...@blomand.net wrote:

 New to the Reflector and new to Elecraft with a K3S on order, 
what is suggested for a microphone.  Objective is excellent audio

with little interest in contesting.   My thoughts and suggestion
from another source is the Heli PR871.

 --
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Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread David Bunte
Bob -

I am a CW operator, but wanted to be able to work SSB from time to time.  I
heard so many K3 users suggest the Yamaha CM500, that I  tried one... in
part because the Heil Pro set I had was not comfortable for me.  I can wear
it for hours, and when I have used it on SSB I have received very good
reports.

A friend recently got a K3 and also got the CM500.  The first time he used
the radio was in a state QSO party. He made LOTS of contacts, and took
first place in his class.  That was his intent... but he was surprised, and
very pleased, by the number of folks who took time during the contest to
tell him that he had outstanding audio. He used a Heil headset in the past
20 or so QSO parties he entered, with first place finishes in about half of
them, and NEVER got unsolicited compliments on his audio.  That, was, of
course, also with a different radio.

Many folks have achieved EXCELLENT results for VERY few dollars, by
mounting an electret element (for just a few dollars), In some manner of
their own design, and have been happy.  I liked the convince of the Yamaha,
which plug right into the rear jacks on the K3 (K3S is the same)... with no
need for adaptors, or connector changes.

Best of luck es 73 de Dave - K9FN
 On Jul 5, 2015 8:35 AM, Mike Reublin NF4L n...@comcast.net wrote:

 The K3S has so much audio tailoring built in, pretty much any mic, when
 properly set up, will garner good audio reports. There's no need to spend
 cubic dollars on microphones.
 73, Mike NF4L


  On Jul 5, 2015, at 7:59 AM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX rmcg...@blomand.net
 wrote:
 
  New to the Reflector and new to Elecraft with a K3S on order,  what is
 suggested for a microphone.  Objective is excellent audio with little
 interest in contesting.   My thoughts and suggestion from another source is
 the Heli PR871.
 
  --
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Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread Mike Reublin NF4L
The K3S has so much audio tailoring built in, pretty much any mic, when 
properly set up, will garner good audio reports. There's no need to spend cubic 
dollars on microphones.
73, Mike NF4L


 On Jul 5, 2015, at 7:59 AM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX rmcg...@blomand.net wrote:
 
 New to the Reflector and new to Elecraft with a K3S on order,  what is 
 suggested for a microphone.  Objective is excellent audio with little 
 interest in contesting.   My thoughts and suggestion from another source is 
 the Heli PR871.
 
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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2015-07-05 Thread kev...@coho.net

Good Morning,
Please join us this afternoon and evening.

14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday)
 7045 kHz at 0100z Monday (6 PM PDT Sunday)

73,
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Re: [Elecraft] KRC2 relay control

2015-07-05 Thread Jack Brindle
Byron is on the right track here. The best way to control the KRC2’s ACx pins 
is to do it through the K3’s menu. The KRC2 is listening to the K3 to get band 
and status information, and not necessarily to a computer. So setting the state 
in the K3 will cause it to be changed in the KRC2.

Take a good look at the K3’s MN command, specifically MN049. I suspect that 
testing with the K3 Utility’s command pane will quickly show you the correct 
command to do what you want. From there is is a pretty simple matter to plug 
the command into N1MM+.

By the way, the K3S/K3//KX3 Programmer’s Reference has been seeing a lot of 
update activity recently. If you haven’t downloaded the latest, you may be 
missing out on some interesting stuff. 

Jack Brindle, W6FB



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 Hi,
 
 See the KRC2 manual and search for AC1.  On Page 15 of the rev.C
 manual, the KRC2 test procedure includes using F4 for accessory
 drivers, and page 19 has the default behavior of F4.
 
 I am not in front of my ham pc right now, but I believe there is a way
 to trigger those from the utility. Perhaps someone else knows if there
 is a command in the K2 programmers manual for triggering these
 outputs.
 
 73, Byron N6NUL
 
 On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Rich rwnewbo...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rwnewbo...@comcast.net wrote:
 I have research this idea on my own and do not see a way to do what I want.
 I know there are really smart folks on this list so I am looking for some
 help.
 
 I was hoping to control the 12vdc (ON/OFF) for my RX ant preamp via the K3
 keyboard commands (Writelog, N1MM).  I was thinking this could possibly be
 done via the sink/source relays in the KRC2.   I already use the KRC2 for
 band decoding,  but it appears to me that the relays only react to band
 changes.  Are there  computer controllable commands for the A B C D relays
 in the KRC2 or any other ideas?
 
 I hope this is clearer than mud.
 
 Rich
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[Elecraft] July 5 Elecraft SSB Net Results

2015-07-05 Thread Ian - Ham
While band conditions were better (at least from Metro Atlanta) than they
have been in recent weeks, today's net was still smaller than usual. I
attribute that to the July 4 holiday weekend and the 13 Colonies special
event. We had 19 check-ins today. They were:

 

N6JW/M  John  TX   KX3515

NC0JW  Jim CO  KX31356

WB5JJARay OK  K3   7877

K8NUCarlOH  K3   7976

KC0XT   David CA  KX36980

W8OV   Dave  TX   K3   3139

W5SVDave  TX   K3   5254

W7QHDCurt   AZ   K2   1538

W4PFMPaul   VA  K3   1673

KB2MN Larry  NJ   KX32649

W4RKS  Jim TX   K3   3618

WM6P  SteveGA  K3   8133

N0MEUJay  CO  KX34351

WB9JNZ   Eric IL K3   4017

N0MPM   Mike  IAK2   923

N2LRB   Jose   NY  KX37791

KI4TXP  Jay  DE   K3   3807

WW4JF John  TN  K3   6185

 

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assistance is appreciated. Everyone have a safe and happy rest of the
holiday weekend.

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Autotuner malfunction

2015-07-05 Thread Rob KK4R
After getting some data, and considering what others had to say, the answer
seems to be that there is no malfunction.  The behavior that I am seeing is
likely because the mismatch with the antenna is marginal.  At least my K3 is
not very sensitive to VSWR less than 1.5:1, and it reports a VSWR of 1.0:1
when other devices are measuring something more.  In general it reports a
lower VSWR than any analyzer I have tried.

Addressing my problem on 40 meters, there are good values in the tuner
memories for the whole band, but if I change from the high end of the band
to the low end, the VSWR sensed by the K3 is not so bad, and I suspect that
the K3 doesn't bother to switch to the values in memory for the new
frequency.  I might like to see less than 1.5:1.0, but the K3 isn't
bothering with it.

On 80m, my antenna actually does need a bit of tuning.  There has been some
trouble auto-tuning to get a good match with the tuner around the part of
the band where the tuner capacitor needs to switch from the antenna side to
the transmitter side or vice versa.  This is just a theory, but possibly the
K3 sensing of the match is more sensitive depending on which side the
capacitor is on.  Maybe it makes a mistake sometimes when the SWR is
relatively low, like less than 3.0:1.  The capacitor seems to end up on the
antenna side when there would be a better match if it switched to the
transmitter side.  I may mess around on 80 and see if I can learn anything
else or confirm this.

Regardless, my tuner works, and if you use it correctly, there is barely a
hiccup.

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Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


 Microphones have to suit your voice.

No, microphones need to be reasonably flat without excess low
frequency response, particularly when worked close.  Beyond that
the K3/K3S TX EQ and noise gate are all anyone needs to achieve
excellent sounding audio with any voice.

Start with TX EQ set to -16, -16, -6, 0, 0, +3, +5, +6 and touch
up the 200 Hz band for your particular voice.  Increasing level
at 200 Hz will provide a bit more low frequency response at the
cost of some punch and intelligibility (low frequencies waste
transmitter power).  For the DX sound, change +3, +5, +6 (3 dB
per octave pre-emphasis) to +6, +10, +12 (6 dB per octave).

Both the low and high frequency adjustments may change a bit
depending on the response of the microphone.  A communications
(e.g. paging or radio) mic will need less pre-emphasis as some
is built into the mic element.  A recording mic will need even
more low cut because of proximity effect (bass build-up).

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-07-05 1:23 PM, Clive Lorton wrote:

On 05/07/2015 15:06, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

The Heil PR-781 is snip but they are a good value for reasonable
quality.

I always find this thread a waste of time, it come up regularly. The
subject is so personal.  Heil, Yamaha, Shure etc. well as I see its down
to comfort and the sound quality of your voice and/or ears.

My advise would be to try out what your friends use, or go to your local
friendly Ham Radio Store and try some out there. Make your own choice.
Headphones have to be comfortable.  Microphones have to suit your voice.

Just my 2 pence worth from across the pond

73 Clive G8POC


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Re: [Elecraft] XV144 transverter firmware

2015-07-05 Thread f5bqp_pfm

Hi Don,

Thanks for your response Don,  the design of these XV transverters which 
have been done many years ago for the k2 line is something I understand 
perfectly.
Since this time the technology has moved up, this is the reason why I 
decided to improve mine.
However once more the design of the packaging (flat, light, pretty... ) 
and the integration into the k2/k3 line is excellent, this 
daisy-chaining is perfect, avoiding externally complex and ugly cabling.
The shame is there is no 23cm transverter into this XV line, probably 
I'll integrate one of my 23cm transverters into an XV144 I'll depopulate 
keeping the IF and control logic parts.
My goal is to replace my IC910H (2m/70cm/23cm) with the k3 plus XV 
series, but with improved performances.


You're doing an excellent job guys (Elecraft team), continue going up, 
we love this.


Best 73's
Pierre-Francois, F5BQP




Le 05/07/2015 17:44, Don Wilhelm a écrit :

Pierre-Francois,

Bob Friess N6CM *is* the designer of the XV series of Elecraft 
transverters, and the RF sections of many other Elecraft products.
He is an excellent RF engineer.  Your comments on the limitations of 
the XV series transverters are well taken, but decisions regarding 
upgrading the designs must be considered with respect to the product 
volumes and the engineering resources available.


73,
Don W3FPR


On 7/5/2015 3:08 AM, Pierre-François (f5bqp_pfm) wrote:

Hi Bob,

Thanks again for your quick response, don't know if you're part of 
the Elecraft team, if yes then congrats for that, excellent products 
with like everywhere some deficiencies to be corrected.





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Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread Clive Lorton

On 05/07/2015 15:06, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
The Heil PR-781 is snip but they are a good value for reasonable 
quality.
I always find this thread a waste of time, it come up regularly. The 
subject is so personal.  Heil, Yamaha, Shure etc. well as I see its down 
to comfort and the sound quality of your voice and/or ears.


My advise would be to try out what your friends use, or go to your local 
friendly Ham Radio Store and try some out there. Make your own choice.  
Headphones have to be comfortable.  Microphones have to suit your voice.


Just my 2 pence worth from across the pond

73 Clive G8POC


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[Elecraft] k3 audio problem

2015-07-05 Thread Dick Blanchard II via Elecraft
When I key the transmitter on SSB I hear a 700 or 800 hz tone being sent along 
with the audio. Unable to figure out what is causing this. Any ideas? Dick 
Blanchard, W1VVX
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Re: [Elecraft] k3 audio problem

2015-07-05 Thread Ted Bryant
Dick,

This sounds like a CW sidetone.  What are the CONFIG settings for the menu
item  PTT_KEY ?

73, Ted W4NZ


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When I key the transmitter on SSB I hear a 700 or 800 hz tone being sent
along with the audio. Unable to figure out what is causing this. Any ideas?
Dick Blanchard, W1VVX
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Old KSYN3 and KXV3A Boards

2015-07-05 Thread Robert Dorchuck W6VY via Elecraft
They have found a home.Bob  W6VY
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Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


The point is that nobody can tell the difference on the air
between a $35 Shure PA48, a $65 Heil HM-12, $155 Heil PR-781
or even a $390 Yaesu MD200A8X for that matter.

We've all wrapped a Solo Cup or cut off paper towel tube around
a Shure 444 or Kenwood MC50, etc. if we've been licensed long enough.
Many of us have soldered capacitors in series with the mic lead over
the years as well in order to fix audio deficiencies in older rigs
that did not have effective TX EQ or proper preemphasis - that doesn't
take anything away from those mics.

However, the TX EQ in the K3 is probably the most effective, simple
to use option and it certainly makes the audio racks and W2IHY every
expensive surplus.

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-07-05 4:18 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

On Sun,7/5/2015 12:31 PM, Clive Lorton wrote:

The fact that Joe  thinks certain products are over priced is his
view, not necessarily everyone's


No, it's because Joe (and I) know microphones quite well, and we know
what good stuff costs. Joe is a retired broadcast engineering manager,
I'm retired from four decades in pro audio, including work as a
recording engineer. I'm also a member of the AES Standards Committee and
the Working Group on Microphones.


otherwise Heil would not be in business.


Heil is in business for the same reason that Bose is in business -- they
spend a lot of money on advertising, and their customers don't know
enough about the product they are selling to know they're being
suckered. In the audio biz, we say of Bose, better sound through
marketing.  The same applies to Heil.

When I got back on the air in 2003, I was still very busy running my
audio biz, so I bought a used K2/100, which came with a Heil PTT mic
(MH2). I opened it up and found an inexpensive electret capsule that
couldn't have cost more than a buck or two wedged into an opening with a
piece of foam behind it.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread Clive Lorton



On 05/07/2015 19:13, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

 Microphones have to suit your voice.
No, microphones need to be reasonably flat without excess low
frequency response, particularly when worked close.  Beyond that
the K3/K3S TX EQ and noise gate are all anyone needs to achieve
excellent sounding audio with any voice.

I disagree..

Start with TX EQ set to -16, -16, -6, 0, 0, +3, +5, +6 and touch
up the 200 Hz band for your particular voice. 
So you are applying e.q. electronically.  Yes I do that, but you can 
also do it acoustically i.e. Shure 444. Those who don't know how a 444 
works just cup you hands in front of your mouth and hear the difference 
to your voice. That the principle.


Microphones and headphones sound and feel differently. All I am saying 
is when purchasing, go for one that you like.  Not one that I like. Not 
one that Joe likes.  That's my argument.


The fact that Joe  thinks certain products are over priced is his view, 
not necessarily everyone's otherwise Heil would not be in business.


CLClive G8POC


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Re: [Elecraft] KRC2 relay control

2015-07-05 Thread Jack Brindle
A bit more on this. Sending MN049; to the K3 puts the K3 into the Menu mode 
with the KRC2 item selected. The VFOA display will show the status of the KRC2 
ACC pins, read directly from the KRC2. You can then issue UP; or DN; commands 
to change the KRC2 ACx pin setting. It will advance (or decrement) by one for 
each UP (or DN) issued, rolling over when it gets to the end of the sequence. 
You can read the LCD with the DS; command to tell what the AC state is. Issuing 
MN255; will get you back to normal operations.

Be sure to refer to the K3S/K3/KX3 Programmer’s Reference to get the details as 
to how to issues these commands, they can be a bit convoluted, especially when 
playing in the menus.

If you are adding the commands to N1MM, you probably want to use 2, the first 
to turn on ACC1: MN049;UP;MN255;
the second to turn it off: MN049:DN;MN255;

This can be a lot more involved if you use the AC2 or AC3 pins as well, and 
using the KRC2 with AC binary coding (jumper W4 installed) makes things far 
more complex.

Note that external control of the ACx pins requires use of the AUX I/O 
connection to the K3/K3S. The KRC2 does not have any commands to change the ACx 
pins using the serial port, nor does the transceiver have the ability to make 
that request using the serial port instead of Aux I/O.

- Jack Brindle, W6FB


 On Jul 5, 2015, at 10:47 AM, Jack Brindle jackbrin...@me.com wrote:
 
 Byron is on the right track here. The best way to control the KRC2’s ACx pins 
 is to do it through the K3’s menu. The KRC2 is listening to the K3 to get 
 band and status information, and not necessarily to a computer. So setting 
 the state in the K3 will cause it to be changed in the KRC2.
 
 Take a good look at the K3’s MN command, specifically MN049. I suspect that 
 testing with the K3 Utility’s command pane will quickly show you the correct 
 command to do what you want. From there is is a pretty simple matter to plug 
 the command into N1MM+.
 
 By the way, the K3S/K3//KX3 Programmer’s Reference has been seeing a lot of 
 update activity recently. If you haven’t downloaded the latest, you may be 
 missing out on some interesting stuff. 
 
 Jack Brindle, W6FB
 
 
 
 On Jul 4, 2015, at 11:57 AM, Byron Servies by...@n6nul.org wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 See the KRC2 manual and search for AC1.  On Page 15 of the rev.C
 manual, the KRC2 test procedure includes using F4 for accessory
 drivers, and page 19 has the default behavior of F4.
 
 I am not in front of my ham pc right now, but I believe there is a way
 to trigger those from the utility. Perhaps someone else knows if there
 is a command in the K2 programmers manual for triggering these
 outputs.
 
 73, Byron N6NUL
 
 On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Rich rwnewbo...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rwnewbo...@comcast.net wrote:
 I have research this idea on my own and do not see a way to do what I want.
 I know there are really smart folks on this list so I am looking for some
 help.
 
 I was hoping to control the 12vdc (ON/OFF) for my RX ant preamp via the K3
 keyboard commands (Writelog, N1MM).  I was thinking this could possibly be
 done via the sink/source relays in the KRC2.   I already use the KRC2 for
 band decoding,  but it appears to me that the relays only react to band
 changes.  Are there  computer controllable commands for the A B C D relays
 in the KRC2 or any other ideas?
 
 I hope this is clearer than mud.
 
 Rich
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Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread Phil Hystad
My two bits…

I use the Elecraft MH2 microphone and it suits me just fine.  Although, I do 
admit to
being mostly CW so the mic is not the most important part of the hobby.  But, I 
get
very good audio reports and even though I agree with all the comments about 
using
TX EQ to make adjustments, I have actually never done that.  I keep putting 
that off.
Maybe I will do that soon.  But, like I said, the MH2 is very good in my 
opinion and it
has several advantages:  nice PTT button on the mic is my preferred mode of 
operation
and it does not take up space on the desktop because I just scoot it out of the 
way
where it hides most of the time.

73, phil, K7PEH

P.S.  I am not addressing comments to Joe (W4TV) here, just sort of picked on 
his reply to
add my two-bit comments.



 On Jul 5, 2015, at 11:13 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:
 
 
  Microphones have to suit your voice.
 
 No, microphones need to be reasonably flat without excess low
 frequency response, particularly when worked close.  Beyond that
 the K3/K3S TX EQ and noise gate are all anyone needs to achieve
 excellent sounding audio with any voice.
 
 Start with TX EQ set to -16, -16, -6, 0, 0, +3, +5, +6 and touch
 up the 200 Hz band for your particular voice.  Increasing level
 at 200 Hz will provide a bit more low frequency response at the
 cost of some punch and intelligibility (low frequencies waste
 transmitter power).  For the DX sound, change +3, +5, +6 (3 dB
 per octave pre-emphasis) to +6, +10, +12 (6 dB per octave).
 
 Both the low and high frequency adjustments may change a bit
 depending on the response of the microphone.  A communications
 (e.g. paging or radio) mic will need less pre-emphasis as some
 is built into the mic element.  A recording mic will need even
 more low cut because of proximity effect (bass build-up).
 
 73,
 
  ... Joe, W4TV
 
 
 On 2015-07-05 1:23 PM, Clive Lorton wrote:
 On 05/07/2015 15:06, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
 The Heil PR-781 is snip but they are a good value for reasonable
 quality.
 I always find this thread a waste of time, it come up regularly. The
 subject is so personal.  Heil, Yamaha, Shure etc. well as I see its down
 to comfort and the sound quality of your voice and/or ears.
 
 My advise would be to try out what your friends use, or go to your local
 friendly Ham Radio Store and try some out there. Make your own choice.
 Headphones have to be comfortable.  Microphones have to suit your voice.
 
 Just my 2 pence worth from across the pond
 
 73 Clive G8POC
 
 
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[Elecraft] k3 audio problem

2015-07-05 Thread Ed
Contact Elecraft service.  I had a similar problem a couple of years 
ago.  The radio had to go to the factory for diagnosis.  We ended up 
with a board replacement.



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[Elecraft] K3: Old KSYN3 and KXV3A Boards

2015-07-05 Thread Robert Dorchuck W6VY via Elecraft
I just replaced the boards in my K3 and these are available to anyone who can 
use them for postage.  Contact off list please.ThanksBob  W6VY
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Old KSYN3 and KXV3A Boards

2015-07-05 Thread Matt Zilmer
We can use Elecraft modules to pay for postage now?  :)  Guess it
makes sense the way postal rates have gone up lately.

Sri, couldn't resist...  Back to lurk mode.

73,
matt
W6NIA

On Sun, 5 Jul 2015 20:26:54 + (UTC), you wrote:

I just replaced the boards in my K3 and these are available to anyone who can 
use them for postage.  Contact off list please.ThanksBob  W6VY
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Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread bill

If you prefer to have a microphone that LOOKs like a zillion dollars,
check out this elecret microphone which is relatively well built, 
and plugs directly into the rear mic jack on the K3.


Sounds like any electret should,,, very fine
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sound-Studio-Dynamic-Mic-Shock-Mount-BM800-Condenser-Microphone-Excellent-TR-/151672992792?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item23506a3418 



I already have too many microphones, but my variation was 19$ shipped 
from China.

Looks great, IF you like that BIG LOOKso I had to see what I would get.

look under bm-800  ,   also another mic   bm-700  these target gamers..
I worked for Sennheiser then AKG and finally Shure Brothers.( 40 
years in audio)

still use an akg paging mic on a goosemeck


bill


my club   Washington Amateur Communications WACOM  http://www.wacomarc.org/
my dx club   Northern Illinois DX 
Association   NIDXA  http://www.nidxa.org/



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[Elecraft] KX3 with internal batteries won't drive or control KXPA100, KX3 needs 12 volts to work right

2015-07-05 Thread Robert Sands
Heading says it all. My internal batteries are good for 10 plus volts and 5
watts output from KX3. When joined with the KXPA100 there is no function of
the power control over the amp. Power setting max is 5 Watts and no amp
output. With 12 volts applied, power control works well up to 110 watts.
All is well but I would like to use the internal battery source and be able
to make the twins work as with 12 V. Setup error? Advise please.

Bob K7VO
New KXPA100
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Old KSYN3 and KXV3A Boards

2015-07-05 Thread Scott Manthe

Hi Tom,
I'm taking these off Bob's hands, mostly for the KXV3A. I'll eventually 
get the new version, but I've been meaning to update my old pre-B 
module for years, and I've already got the preamp. I plan to upgrade my 
K3 as much as possible, since I got it cheap used and can justify what 
it'll cost me to upgrade it vs. buying a similarly configured K3S at 
$4500, but I'm going to take my time doing it, and I'd rather have the 
new KIO3B I/O board than the KXV3B right now. (I'd need to put $2K into 
my K3 to reach the K3S replacement cost, so I've can certainly do some 
upgrading.)


I haven't figured out what to do with the KSYN3. If I think of 
something, I'll let you know. If you think of something, let me know :)


73,
Scott, N9AA


On 7/5/15 4:48 PM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:

Ah behold the misplaced modifier :)

Seriously, I would LOVE to hear if anyone takes Bob up on that offer. I have my 
old synth and I cannot imagine a case where someone would need one of these. If 
you had a failure now and needed to replace it, you would surely just replace 
it with the new one. Or at least save your pennies. But how many times in the 
history of the K3 could this board have failed—short of storm damage.

I look at the old synth on the shelf mocking me with its bright shiny aluminum 
shell and the only thing that keeps me from tossing it the trash is guilt so I 
wait until the next county mobile electronics collection when I get rid of my 
other old electronics, batteries, CFL bulbs, paint, etc.

But, if someone wants it, tell me a really great  thing you will do with it, 
promise to send me a picture of the completed project and I’ll even pay the US 
postage (note that if you just want the nice piece of aluminum, that doesn’t 
qualify).

Tom Schaefer, NY4I
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Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread Jim Brown

On Sun,7/5/2015 12:31 PM, Clive Lorton wrote:
The fact that Joe  thinks certain products are over priced is his 
view, not necessarily everyone's 


No, it's because Joe (and I) know microphones quite well, and we know 
what good stuff costs. Joe is a retired broadcast engineering manager, 
I'm retired from four decades in pro audio, including work as a 
recording engineer. I'm also a member of the AES Standards Committee and 
the Working Group on Microphones.


otherwise Heil would not be in business. 


Heil is in business for the same reason that Bose is in business -- they 
spend a lot of money on advertising, and their customers don't know 
enough about the product they are selling to know they're being 
suckered. In the audio biz, we say of Bose, better sound through 
marketing.  The same applies to Heil.


When I got back on the air in 2003, I was still very busy running my 
audio biz, so I bought a used K2/100, which came with a Heil PTT mic 
(MH2). I opened it up and found an inexpensive electret capsule that 
couldn't have cost more than a buck or two wedged into an opening with a 
piece of foam behind it.


73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] FS - KX3 + accessories

2015-07-05 Thread andrew vavra
Hello to all on the group.
I have decided to sell my KX3 s/n 1033.  I simply do not use it enough to 
justify keeling it on the shelf.  

I am asking $1200 for the radio, or $1,500 for the radio + carry case + antenna 
 accessories at the bottom of this page.
I am the original owner and assembled the radio myself.  Over the entire time I 
have owned it I have used this radio maybe 10 hours, tops.
A slide show of all the items listed can be viewed at this link:  
http://s993.photobucket.com/user/andyvavra/slideshow/KX3?sort=6

Items included in the KX3 for $1,150 include the following:
   
   - KX3 transceiver s/n 1033
   - MH3 hand microphone
   - KX3-PCKT Accessory cable set
   - KXFL3 Dual passband filter
   - KXAT3 Internal antenna tuner
   - KXBC3 internal NiMh charger / real time clock.
If purchased new, these items would cost $1,469
Additional items available to purchase as a bundle with the KX3 for $200 
additional, or separately as priced below :   
   - SuperTenna HFB01 6 mtr - 80 mtr portable antenna --$120   

   - Pignology Pigmet wireless bridge for iOS / Android use with KX3 -- $60   

   - Apple iPad USB connector kit -- $20   

   - RS 3 Amp switching power supply -- $35   

   - BNC Adapter kit -- $10   

   - Harbor Freight custom fitted carry case for KX3 -- $20   

   - Tenergy Model 01025 NiMh rapid charger + AA 4000 mAh battery -- $50

Payment -- Bank draft, money order or personal check;  Paypal not accepted.
Shipping -- I will split the actual cost of shipping for your preferred method 
50 / 50.

Please contact me off list at my call sign - KD3RF at ARRL.net
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Old KSYN3 and KXV3A Boards

2015-07-05 Thread Thomas Schaefer
Ah behold the misplaced modifier :)

Seriously, I would LOVE to hear if anyone takes Bob up on that offer. I have my 
old synth and I cannot imagine a case where someone would need one of these. If 
you had a failure now and needed to replace it, you would surely just replace 
it with the new one. Or at least save your pennies. But how many times in the 
history of the K3 could this board have failed—short of storm damage.

I look at the old synth on the shelf mocking me with its bright shiny aluminum 
shell and the only thing that keeps me from tossing it the trash is guilt so I 
wait until the next county mobile electronics collection when I get rid of my 
other old electronics, batteries, CFL bulbs, paint, etc. 

But, if someone wants it, tell me a really great  thing you will do with it, 
promise to send me a picture of the completed project and I’ll even pay the US 
postage (note that if you just want the nice piece of aluminum, that doesn’t 
qualify). 

Tom Schaefer, NY4I
727-437-2771

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 On Jul 5, 2015, at 4:34 PM, Matt Zilmer mzil...@roadrunner.com wrote:
 
 We can use Elecraft modules to pay for postage now?  :)  Guess it
 makes sense the way postal rates have gone up lately.
 
 Sri, couldn't resist...  Back to lurk mode.
 
 73,
 matt
 W6NIA
 
 On Sun, 5 Jul 2015 20:26:54 + (UTC), you wrote:
 
 I just replaced the boards in my K3 and these are available to anyone who 
 can use them for postage.  Contact off list please.ThanksBob  W6VY
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[Elecraft] KAT500 won't tune the 6 meter antenna

2015-07-05 Thread George Rebong
My KAT500 doesn't tune my 6 meter antenna. I tried it on AUTO mode and MANUAL 
mode. The antenna has 13:1 SWR.  The KAT500 relays doesn't make noise when I 
keyed the K3.  Did I miss something?
73
George KE6TE

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Re: [Elecraft] XV144 transverter firmware

2015-07-05 Thread Edward R Cole

Pierre-Francois, F5BQP:

Substituting the xtal LO with a PLL will solve the frequency drift 
issue.  One caveat is making sure the PLL has low phase-noise as that 
affects ability to handle strong adjacent frequency signals when 
trying to copy weak signals (which is why you are using JT65).  One 
of the shining parameters of the K3 design.


I had DEMI transverters long before I acquired my K3/10 (and KX3) so 
have continued to use them.  I have heated xtal osc on 144 and 222 
but use a PLL on 432, 1296, and 3400 MHz.  Recent re-design by DEMI 
has improved xtal LO frequency stability while the xtal oscillator 
has excellent phase-noise performance.  I see about 7 to 10 Hz drift 
on the 101 to 194 MHz xtal oscillators in the new L-series of DEMI 
transverters.  But LO's for higher bands multiply the xtal oscillator 
frequency which also multiplies drift.


For 432 and higher I found using the N5AC ApolLO PLL's worked well in 
DEMI transverters.  The N5AC Apol series is not the lowest in 
phase-noise so that could be a real concern for those doing VHF-plus 
in high density RF environments.  So  one should consider phase-noise 
when deciding on a PLL.  W1GHZ has a new VCXO design that exhibits 
lower noise than a PLL. Of course this is for the experimenter ham who DIY.


I do think there will be a increasing use of PLL in VHF and higher 
equipment due to demands of digital modes and need for better 
frequency stability on the higher bands.


One issue is the need for an external 10-MHz reference.  That is not 
hard to embed into current equipment.  I did that for a 432-MHz 
transverter customer.


73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread Fred Jensen
A little OT, but Joe is sooo correct.  Starting college, I worked at an 
FM station as a member of the TX engineering crew and a board op.  I had 
the sign-on shift 3 days a week and was the only one there ... and I 
should probably include I was 16 and the engineering crew had minimal 
adult supervision.


The mic at the board was the iconic prismatic RCA velocity mic, quite 
big and I found that, if I crawled up to it real close while reading the 
sign-on script, I sounded like a 45 yr old bass, highly experienced 
announcer instead of a 16 yr old teenager.  I think this is true for 
most mic types, that velocity mic just may have been the extreme case.


While bass is nice on a 50 Hz to 15 KHz hi-fi broadcast channel playing 
classical music [think 1812 Overture], you don't want that on a comm 
channel.  K3 TX EQ is extremely effective in tailoring the audio from 
most any mic.  I wonder how it would do using a Bell T-1 carbon element 
from an old black telephone?


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
- www.cqp.org

On 7/5/2015 11:13 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:


  Microphones have to suit your voice.

No, microphones need to be reasonably flat without excess low
frequency response, particularly when worked close.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 with internal batteries won't drive or control KXPA100, KX3 needs 12 volts to work right

2015-07-05 Thread Keith Onishi
Booting up KX3 and KXPA100 with external DC and then unplugging the external DC 
from KX3, KX3 continues to drive KXPA100. Booting up KX3 with internal battery 
and KXPA100 with external DC source do not allow KX3 driving KXPA100. It looks 
KX3 firmware decides to bypass KXPA100 when it determines booted up with 
internal battery while PAMODE is ON.

73 de JH3SIF, Keith

 2015/07/06 6:23、Robert Sands k7vora...@gmail.com のメール:
 
 Heading says it all. My internal batteries are good for 10 plus volts and 5
 watts output from KX3. When joined with the KXPA100 there is no function of
 the power control over the amp. Power setting max is 5 Watts and no amp
 output. With 12 volts applied, power control works well up to 110 watts.
 All is well but I would like to use the internal battery source and be able
 to make the twins work as with 12 V. Setup error? Advise please.
 
 Bob K7VO
 New KXPA100
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 w/100W amp has temperature related xmit shutdown

2015-07-05 Thread Don Wilhelm

Jim,

That sounds like the classic problem that is produced when the KPA100 
diodes D16 and D17 succumb to static coming from the antenna.
The K2 has a loss of power control and will try to transmit at the 
maximum power possible.
You would see that if you connect an external in-line wattmeter and set 
the power knob to somewhere between 20 and 40 watts - I suspect the 
actual power output would be in excess of 120 watts.  You will also 
likely see HiCur messages - and that is causing your shutdowns.


You can 'take my word on it', or you can use an external wattmeter to 
verify that you have no power control and the power output is always at 
the maximum the K2/100 can deliver.


Replacement of D16 and D17 in the KPA100 is in order as the first step.  
There are other failure points in the KPA100 power output reporting to 
the base K2 MCU that can cause similar responses (failure of KPA100 U6), 
but the most common problem is D16 an D17 which can be damaged by static 
charges on the antenna feedline.


If the problem does resolve to the failure of D16 and/or D17, you might 
want to consider measures to prevent future failures.  Put a DC path 
across each antenna feedline to bleed off static.  A non-reactive 5k to 
50k resistor will do fine.  Then disconnect antennas from the K2 when 
not in use - a switch to connect the K2 to a dummy load is ideal.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/5/2015 7:28 PM, wa4ywm wrote:

I have a K2 serial no. 4729 with the 100W amp which I have been using for
almost 10 years.

It recently developed a problem with the following 2 symptoms:

1. After operating for some time (perhaps 1-2 hours) the Tune function will
begin to display 1 W with a 1.0-1 SWR on all bands. It normally displays
22-23W with the correct SWR shown.

2. At the same time, if I attempt to transmit, the K2 will apparently begin
to draw too much current and it shuts down and re-starts. The Tune function
also shuts the K2 down at this point.




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Re: [Elecraft] July 5 Elecraft SSB Net Results

2015-07-05 Thread Ian Kahn
Ah, the joys of email delays. One other correction from today's net report:

KB2MN Larry  NJ   KX32649

Enjoy the week, everyone!

73 de,

--Ian
Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
km4ik@gmail.com
10-10 #74624  North Georgia Chapter #2038
PODXS 070 #1962
K3 #281, P3 #688 KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468

On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Ian - Ham km4ik@gmail.com wrote:

 While band conditions were better (at least from Metro Atlanta) than they
 have been in recent weeks, today’s net was still smaller than usual. I
 attribute that to the July 4 holiday weekend and the 13 Colonies special
 event. We had 19 check-ins today. They were:



 N6JW/M  John  TX   KX3515

 NC0JW  Jim CO  KX31356

 WB5JJARay OK  K3   7877

 K8NUCarlOH  K3   7976

 KC0XT   David CA  KX36980

 W8OV   Dave  TX   K3   3139

 W5SVDave  TX   K3   5254

 W7QHDCurt   AZ   K2   1538

 W4PFMPaul   VA  K3   1673

 KB2MN Larry  NJ   KX32649

 W4RKS  Jim TX   K3   3618

 WM6P  SteveGA  K3   8133

 N0MEUJay  CO  KX34351

 WB9JNZ   Eric IL K3   4017

 N0MPM   Mike  IAK2   923

 N2LRB   Jose   NY  KX37791

 KI4TXP  Jay  DE   K3   3807

 WW4JF John  TN  K3   6185



 Thank you to the stations that acted as relays during today’s net. Your
 assistance is appreciated. Everyone have a safe and happy rest of the
 holiday weekend.



 73 de,



 --Ian

 Ian Kahn, KM4IK
 Roswell, GA  EM74ua
 km4ik@gmail.com

 10-10 #74624, North Georgia Chapter #2038

 PODXS 070 #1962
 K3# 281, P3 #688, KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468




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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 won't tune the 6 meter antenna

2015-07-05 Thread Jack Brindle
Yes. Check the KAT500 specs on page 2 of the KAT500 manual. The tuner is 
limited to matching no more than a 10:1 SWR in the HF range, and lower at VHF. 
Note that this is specified for 500 watts of power, so you may be able to get a 
little more. 13:1 indicates a very bad match, however. You will be burning up 
most of your TX power in the coax between the tuner and the antenna.

By far the best thing you can do is to fix the antenna so that is presents a 
much better impedance to the feed line (and thus the tuner). Doing so will get 
much more of that precious power into the air.

- Jack B, W6FB
 
 On Jul 5, 2015, at 3:15 PM, George Rebong ke6t...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 My KAT500 doesn't tune my 6 meter antenna. I tried it on AUTO mode and MANUAL 
 mode. The antenna has 13:1 SWR.  The KAT500 relays doesn't make noise when I 
 keyed the K3.  Did I miss something?
 73
 George KE6TE
 
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[Elecraft] K2 w/100W amp has temperature related xmit shutdown

2015-07-05 Thread wa4ywm
I have a K2 serial no. 4729 with the 100W amp which I have been using for
almost 10 years.

It recently developed a problem with the following 2 symptoms:

1. After operating for some time (perhaps 1-2 hours) the Tune function will
begin to display 1 W with a 1.0-1 SWR on all bands. It normally displays
22-23W with the correct SWR shown.

2. At the same time, if I attempt to transmit, the K2 will apparently begin
to draw too much current and it shuts down and re-starts. The Tune function
also shuts the K2 down at this point.

I observed the same behavior on a dummy load - to eliminate an antenna or
feedline issue.

I also left the power supply on while letting the K2 cool down to see if it
was the source of the problem. Apparently not since the K2 would operate for
a significant time after turning it back on.

I have not tried any other troubleshooting. I thought I would see if anyone
could point me in the right direction before I took the shotgun approach.

TNX for any help  73,
Jim WA4YWM



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Re: [Elecraft] July 5 Elecraft SSB Net Results

2015-07-05 Thread Ian Kahn
All, correction to this afternoon's net report. W5SV's info is corrected
below as follows:

W5SVDave  TX   K3   5354

Sorry for the error!

73 de,

--Ian
Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
km4ik@gmail.com
10-10 #74624  North Georgia Chapter #2038
PODXS 070 #1962
K3 #281, P3 #688 KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468

On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Ian - Ham km4ik@gmail.com wrote:

 While band conditions were better (at least from Metro Atlanta) than they
 have been in recent weeks, today’s net was still smaller than usual. I
 attribute that to the July 4 holiday weekend and the 13 Colonies special
 event. We had 19 check-ins today. They were:



 N6JW/M  John  TX   KX3515

 NC0JW  Jim CO  KX31356

 WB5JJARay OK  K3   7877

 K8NUCarlOH  K3   7976

 KC0XT   David CA  KX36980

 W8OV   Dave  TX   K3   3139

 W5SVDave  TX   K3   5254

 W7QHDCurt   AZ   K2   1538

 W4PFMPaul   VA  K3   1673

 KB2MN Larry  NJ   KX32649

 W4RKS  Jim TX   K3   3618

 WM6P  SteveGA  K3   8133

 N0MEUJay  CO  KX34351

 WB9JNZ   Eric IL K3   4017

 N0MPM   Mike  IAK2   923

 N2LRB   Jose   NY  KX37791

 KI4TXP  Jay  DE   K3   3807

 WW4JF John  TN  K3   6185



 Thank you to the stations that acted as relays during today’s net. Your
 assistance is appreciated. Everyone have a safe and happy rest of the
 holiday weekend.



 73 de,



 --Ian

 Ian Kahn, KM4IK
 Roswell, GA  EM74ua
 km4ik@gmail.com

 10-10 #74624, North Georgia Chapter #2038

 PODXS 070 #1962
 K3# 281, P3 #688, KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468




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Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread ke9uw
Interesting...I felt this from the days of the shootouts, but stayed somewhat 
quiet back then. Kind of like if they're happy and you got them Q5, why be the 
old guy.

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On Sun,7/5/2015 12:31 PM, Clive Lorton wrote:
 The fact that Joe  thinks certain products are over priced is his
 view, not necessarily everyone's

No, it's because Joe (and I) know microphones quite well, and we know
what good stuff costs. Joe is a retired broadcast engineering manager,
I'm retired from four decades in pro audio, including work as a
recording engineer. I'm also a member of the AES Standards Committee and
the Working Group on Microphones.

 otherwise Heil would not be in business.

Heil is in business for the same reason that Bose is in business -- they
spend a lot of money on advertising, and their customers don't know
enough about the product they are selling to know they're being
suckered. In the audio biz, we say of Bose, better sound through
marketing.  The same applies to Heil.

When I got back on the air in 2003, I was still very busy running my
audio biz, so I bought a used K2/100, which came with a Heil PTT mic
(MH2). I opened it up and found an inexpensive electret capsule that
couldn't have cost more than a buck or two wedged into an opening with a
piece of foam behind it.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and 48,000 Hz Digital Issue

2015-07-05 Thread James Bennett
Nobody??? Am I the only K3 owner using a Tascam sound card and a Mac to run 
WSJT-X??

Jim Bennett / W6JHB
Folsom, CA

 On Jul 4, 2015, at 12:30 PM, James Bennett w6...@me.com wrote:
 
 I posted this on the WSJT-X Yahoo group and still no resolution. Hoping that 
 perhaps someone on this reflector might have some thoughts on the problem. It 
 isn’t a real “problem” per se, as I can certainly use my system as it is, but 
 just wondering about this “quirk”. Here is my post:
 
 I just recently upgraded from WSJT-X 1.4.0 to 1.5.0 and have a question 
 about something in the User Guide. I'm running on an iMac, OS X 10.10.4, an 
 Elecraft K3, and my sound card is a Tascam US-125M. I am able to use the K3 
 and the new version of the software but have an issue with the documentation 
 procedure….
 
 The WSJT-X user manual says to use the Apple Audio MIDI Setup utility to 
 configure the sound card to 48000 Hz, two channel, 16 bit. I have been using 
 the above configuration at 41000Hz with no problems. When I try running at 
 48000 Hz, the radio does not go into transmit mode. If I switch it back to 
 44100 Hz, it works OK. The specs for the US-125M indicate that it should work 
 up to 48000 Hz. When set to 48000 Hz, I’m able to get the usual decodes, but 
 can’t transmit. I’ve got it set for the K3/KX3, and CAT control.
 
 Any idea why I'm limited to 44100 with this configuration and why 48000 fails 
 to work?
 
 Jim / W6JHB
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Re: [Elecraft] XV144

2015-07-05 Thread f5bqp_pfm

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Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2015 14:14:52 -0800
From: Edward R Colekl...@acsalaska.net
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] XV144 transverter firmware
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Pierre-Francois, F5BQP:

Substituting the xtal LO with a PLL will solve the frequency drift
issue.  One caveat is making sure the PLL has low phase-noise as that
affects ability to handle strong adjacent frequency signals when
trying to copy weak signals (which is why you are using JT65).  One
of the shining parameters of the K3 design.

I had DEMI transverters long before I acquired my K3/10 (and KX3) so
have continued to use them.  I have heated xtal osc on 144 and 222
but use a PLL on 432, 1296, and 3400 MHz.  Recent re-design by DEMI
has improved xtal LO frequency stability while the xtal oscillator
has excellent phase-noise performance.  I see about 7 to 10 Hz drift
on the 101 to 194 MHz xtal oscillators in the new L-series of DEMI
transverters.  But LO's for higher bands multiply the xtal oscillator
frequency which also multiplies drift.

For 432 and higher I found using the N5AC ApolLO PLL's worked well in
DEMI transverters.  The N5AC Apol series is not the lowest in
phase-noise so that could be a real concern for those doing VHF-plus
in high density RF environments.  So  one should consider phase-noise
when deciding on a PLL.  W1GHZ has a new VCXO design that exhibits
lower noise than a PLL. Of course this is for the experimenter ham who DIY.

I do think there will be a increasing use of PLL in VHF and higher
equipment due to demands of digital modes and need for better
frequency stability on the higher bands.

One issue is the need for an external 10-MHz reference.  That is not
hard to embed into current equipment.  I did that for a 432-MHz
transverter customer.

73, Ed - KL7UW
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Hi Ed,

For this improvement I've an EXCELLENT PLVCXO 116MHz which is used intensively 
in Eu by microwavers, the PN is excellent, even more, I've measured it very 
recently with an APPH AnaPico source analyser ( www.anapico.com ) .
I'm going to build an external enclosure box where I'll include the 116MHz LO 
for the XV144, the 404MHz LO for the XV432 and a small internal 10MHz 
distribution amplifier .
I'll not remove the existing LO of the XVs, just two SMB bulkhead on the back 
panel for the in/out LO (SMA are too large for the remaining space), so it 
would be possible with a small smb jumper to come back to the original LO.
There is not enough space inside the XV box to include the PLLCXO without 
depopulating the initial oscillator, and I don't want to do it.

Will need to know the RAL paint number of the XV enclosures, if someone knows 
it I will appreciate.
I would have preferred a XV empty enclosure but I doubt I could purchase one to 
ELECRAFT so I'll repaint my own enclosure (will not purchase another XV just 
for the box... Lol...)

Concerning the 10MHz most of my radio equipment are driven with the same GPSDO 
10MHz distributed from the cellar to the tower for microwave transverters going 
to be installed soon on the tower itself and to the shack for the radios. The 
lab has another GPSDO or a rubidium PRS10.


Best 73's
Pierre-Francois, F5BQP




 


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[Elecraft] K3 Getting AFSK RTTY mode to Stick

2015-07-05 Thread Greg Williams
Has anyone experienced this?  I have tested using DXLabs Commander 
directly and through LPBridge, N1MM direct and through LPB and the 
results are the same.


Put the rig into AFSK A 45 BPS using the software, check data mode using 
the DATA MD button and it is correct. Press AB button twice, the 
frequency is transferred but the A  B all never comes up.  Swap 
operating VFOs and the mode is now DATA A, swap operating VFO's again 
(Should now have the original frequency and mode of AFSK A 45 BPS)  the 
mode is now DATA A.   Further testing reveals that this will occur just 
by changing VFOs using the A/B button.


If you set the mode using DATA MD and the VFO B knob then Press AB 
button twice the frequency and mode is transferred to the B. More 
testing shows that changing the mode using DATA MD and the VFO B Knob 
actually changes the mode in both VFOs/Receivers.


I then tried setting the mode in both VFOs using the following commands 
in a DXLabs Commander Macro.  (The PC020 is to give me 20Watts output)


'k31;md$6;dt$1;bw$0040;is$2210;md6;dt1;bw0040;is2210;PC020;

This sets the VFO A to AFSK A 45 BPS, if I put the VFO B/Sub receiver 
commands second then VFO A resets to DATA A.


Please what am I doing wrong?  I would like to be able to select RTTY 
and have both VFOs in AFSK A 45 BPS.   Please no responses saying I 
should be using FSK.


Cheers
Greg

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Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread Gary Gregory
Hi think Jim and Joe nailed it with regard to Mic (sound) and
associated cost.

Heil do nothing for me. The price turns me off and as others have stated
the K3 EQ is there to allow us all to use a sensibly priced Mic with good
quality resultant audio which is what we all want. (Thats an assumption on
my part ok)

I won't rant about the WI2HY. I will say i have yet to hear a station using
this type of audio that was adjusted to give good audio. My ears are c#@p
but a wide signal is still a wide signal and awful audio is still awful.
Piercing audio may cut through, but ripping off my headset when they call
sends me to the coffee machine and medicine drawer. It does not get a reply
from me.

I use a CM-500 and an MH2 and sometimes an old Turner +3. Never had any
complaints and I was born with a less than a DJ quality pitch. Oh well,
thems the breaks eh?

Just my 2 Drachmas worth...:-)

Gary
Vk1ZZ
K3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT
On 06/07/2015 11:01 AM, ke9uw c-haw...@illinois.edu wrote:

 Interesting...I felt this from the days of the shootouts, but stayed
 somewhat quiet back then. Kind of like if they're happy and you got them
 Q5, why be the old guy.

 Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 5, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Jim Brown-10 [via Elecraft] 
 ml-node+s365791n7604655...@n2.nabble.commailto:
 ml-node+s365791n7604655...@n2.nabble.com wrote:

 On Sun,7/5/2015 12:31 PM, Clive Lorton wrote:
  The fact that Joe  thinks certain products are over priced is his
  view, not necessarily everyone's

 No, it's because Joe (and I) know microphones quite well, and we know
 what good stuff costs. Joe is a retired broadcast engineering manager,
 I'm retired from four decades in pro audio, including work as a
 recording engineer. I'm also a member of the AES Standards Committee and
 the Working Group on Microphones.

  otherwise Heil would not be in business.

 Heil is in business for the same reason that Bose is in business -- they
 spend a lot of money on advertising, and their customers don't know
 enough about the product they are selling to know they're being
 suckered. In the audio biz, we say of Bose, better sound through
 marketing.  The same applies to Heil.

 When I got back on the air in 2003, I was still very busy running my
 audio biz, so I bought a used K2/100, which came with a Heil PTT mic
 (MH2). I opened it up and found an inexpensive electret capsule that
 couldn't have cost more than a buck or two wedged into an opening with a
 piece of foam behind it.

 73, Jim K9YC
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