[Elecraft] K3EXREF Ext. Frequency Reference Input

[PETER HUTCHISON]

 Hi,
Anyone got one of external reference boards (K3EXREF) that is no longer 
required?
If so, let me know how much and approximate shipping cost to UK.
Thanks, Peter G4URT
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Re: [Elecraft] Different Reflectors for different models

[Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE)]

Jim,
You may not mind but it is a formal request by the moderator to do so.
I do filter, but not to delete messages. I use the filter option to have 
the subjects split into different sub-folders, named with the 
corresponding type of equipment.


Deleting what is not of my interest is still an easy task. I simply do 
not know what extra burden it is just to start a question with "K3 " if 
it is specifically about a K3 or "KPA500 " if it concerns a KPA500, in 
the subject line.


Clearly I am against a separate list, for I too like to read all 
discussions to learn more about our common hobby.


73,
Peter

Op 2015-08-24 02:59 schreef Jim Rhodes:

I don't mind if someone mentions a model in a subject

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Utility

[Warren Merkel]

Brian,

I had this happen to me one time.I believe it was trying to find the
KAT500 on a port that was no longer the correct COM port.   A device was
there but it wasn't the KAT500.Try unplugging all other USB devices
that you can, leaving only the KAT500 connected,  and start the
application again.  (Kill the task in the process list if you see it's
already there)  If no joy, try disabling any COM port sharing software
you might be using as well.

I just tried to find where the KAT500 utility stores config info and
interestingly didn't find a thing in what looks to be the right place
(  %appdata%\Elecraft\KAT500 Configuration)   The folder is empty!
Was hoping it was just a config file that we could look at.

Might I suggest you look in the Control Panel Device Manager, and
determine which port is being assigned to the KAT500.   It should be
listed under "Ports and LPT"   It shows up as "USB Serial Port (COMx)"  
Where "x" is a number.  Make mental note of what the COMx is in your
case.That at least means that the KAT500 is being recognized by the
computer and is assigned a COM port.   If this port assignment doesn't
make sense from what you expect or what it was using previously,
possibly the Utility is hung  while trying to use different port than
what it is being assigned to the KAT500 now-- and not doing a good job
of telling you it's having an issue.

Have you tried uninstalling the Utility completely and then reinstall
it?   Hopefully the uninstaller will remove the incorrect configuration
information on the way out.  The developer needs to chime in on where
that is kept.

Warren
KD4Z


On 8/23/2015 10:22 PM, Ken K6MR wrote:
> This is a tough one given that everyone else is likely running without issue.
>
> The common/obvious question: did you install as Administrator and are you 
> running the utility as Administrator? Depending on resource requests from the 
> program this can be a problem. Is the user you are running as an 
> Administrator? If not, right click on the setup file and select “Run as 
> Administrator”. Do the same when running the Utility. 
>
> I just downloaded the latest utility and installed/ran without issue.  This 
> is Win10 x64, but I also run it on W7.
>
> Ken K6MR
>
>
> From: Brian Linn
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 17:22
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Utility
>
>
> To Anyone!
>
>  
>
> Issue: KAT500 Utility will not run
>
> Version: 1.14.4.10
>
> Windows: 7 Pro 64 bit
>
> Observations:
>
> 1)  It appears to correctly install
>
> 2)  When one attempts to start the utility, it shows in the Task Manager
> as a process (KAT500Utility.exe *32)
>
> 3)  The application window does not show on the screen.
>
> 4)  The application is not listed in the Task Manager under
> Applications.
>
> 5)  If one attempts to start the utility again, the application window
> will show on the screen and a second process will show in the Task Manager
> processes.
>
> 6)  The application then goes into a Not Responding state.
>
>  
>
> Any ideas are welcome.
>
>  
>
> 73, 
>
> Brian KD0HII
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Microham Station Master Inhibit -> K3 ?

[Marco HB9CAT]

All,

FYI I've got a response from Microham as well, expanding Joe's response:

- direct INH connection to K3: OK if Station Master has at least Hardware 
revision 4
- SM grounds Inhibit output when everything is OK
- SM is pretty conservative and will set Inhibit for any non-normal condition, 
like antenna switching, SteppIR tuning, band locks, PA locks. Interesting 
enough these include events "inherited" by other Microham devices through the 
iLink connection. In my case a for example MK2R+ setting a "same band lock".

Thanks for all replies, topic closed

Marco HB9CAT

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe 
Subich, W4TV
Sent: sabato, 22. agosto 2015 01:37
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Microham Station Master Inhibit -> K3 ?


> Then why do I measure 12V in "rest state", when no switching occurs?
> Isn't it the other way around ? (I can't test it right now)

No, High is the at rest state - Inhibit line is pulled low *after* PTT - the 
time delay is set in the PTT & Sequencer settings.

> PA PTT is currently given by an MK2R+ so SM PTT doesn't apply; but if 
> SM would set INH during tuning the K3 wouldn’t TX

PTT and PA PTT in MK2R+ are coupled to PTT in SM via iLINK.  SM KEYOUT (on PA 
Port) and MK2R+ PA PTT are the same (logical) signal.  PA PTT and KEYOUT are 
inhibited (blocked) if SteppIR is tuning independent of any use of the inhibit 
output.  Since Icom and Kenwood transceivers do not support inhibit, the 
amplifier must be disabled when tuning.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 8/21/2015 5:43 PM, Marco HB9CAT wrote:
> Thanks a lot for your reply Joe, my Station Masters are pretty new
> (2014/2015) so I shall be safe to connect Inhibit directly.
>
>> Just like Yaesu, SM Inhibit provides +12V to inhibit and pulls the 
>> Inhibit
> line low to enable transmit (/Inhibit).
> Then why do I measure 12V in "rest state", when no switching occurs ? 
> Isn't it the other way around ? (I can't test it right now)
>
>> PA PTT is inhibited during antenna tuning.  Low power is still 
>> possible as
> is the case with SteppIR's own tuning relay.
> PA PTT is currently given by an MK2R+ so SM PTT doesn't apply; but if 
> SM would set INH during tuning the K3 wouldn’t TX
>
> Are we both the only ones using Station Masters with Elecraft ? 
> Curious to gather experiences
>
> Marco HB9CAT
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
> Joe Subich, W4TV
> Sent: giovedì, 20. agosto 2015 22:14
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Microham Station Master Inhibit -> K3 ?
>
>
>   > According to the Microham manual this output is provided to be  > 
> connected to Yaesu, TenTec and Elecraft transceivers; I was tempted  > 
> to plug it directly into my K3, but I decided to measure the voltage  
> > on the Station Master's Inhibit out connector: it's 13V.
>
> Measure the current on the SM Inhibit jack.  Early units sourced +12V 
> across a 2K2 pull-down to inhibit in order to work with some early
> Yaesu rigs.   Later units have changed the output to a 4K7 pull-up
> resistor to +12V and an NPN transistor that pulls the +12V to ground 
> to transmit.  If you see more than 3 mA on the Inhibit line, you have 
> an early unit.
>
> The K3 Inhibit input is a 220 Ohm resistor to a port on the controller.
> The later versions of Station Master should be fine with it (3 mA max
> current) but if you have an early Station Master, I'd use a voltage 
> divider or a series resistor and shunt 5.1V zener diode between the 
> Station Master and K3.
>
>   > Question 2: I assume Station Master's Inhibit is active when this  
> > signal goes to 0V, so K3's TX INH configuration shall be LO=INH.
>   > Anyone has experience ?
>
> Just like Yaesu, SM Inhibit provides +12V to inhibit and pulls the 
> Inhibit line low to enable transmit (/Inhibit).
>
>   > Question 3: Station Master is controlling a SteppIR antenna: does  
> > Inhibit activate during the antenna tuning procedures ?
>
> PA PTT is inhibited during antenna tuning.  Low power is still 
> possible as is the case with SteppIR's own tuning relay.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 8/20/2015 7:23 AM, Marco HB9CAT wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm optimizing the shack setup and taking a more careful look at hot 
>> switching; Antenna switching is managed through a couple of Microham 
>> Station Masters, which provide an Inhibit Output as cinch connector.
>> So Inhibit will be set during any Antenna transtition to protect the 
>> switches, the PA etc.
>>
>> According to the Microham manual this output is provided to be 
>> connected to Yaesu, TenTec and Elecraft transceivers; I was tempted 
>> to plug it directly into my K3, but I decided to measure the voltage 
>> on the Station Master's Inhibit out connector: it's 13V.
>>
>> Question 1: Is that voltage OK to be connected to the Inhibit pin in 
>> the K3's ACC connector ? I prefer to ask before d

[Elecraft] K3 Diversity Audio Equalizer question / clarification

[ae4pb]

Reading the manual I see there's an audio equalizer feature to tune the audio 
to our liking. Is it possible when using subrx to independently adjust the 
equalizer for each ear? I ask because I have some hearing loss at some 
frequencies from my time in the Navy. As a result, sounds are often different 
when heard by each ear. I'd like to be able to tune each side for comfort and 
best sound. My inference is that each receiver has it's own DSP so the 
capability may already be available and I'm missing it in the manual. From what 
I read it appears to be an adjustment for overall RX or TX and not RX 
Left/Right. 
If this is not an available function I'd like to submit it as a possible 
feature add for future revisions.

Thanks in advance.
Jerry Moore
AE4PB, Future K3S owner.

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[Elecraft] P3 Button Settings

[James Wilson]

>Anyone have any suggestions with regard to what favorite >functions to assign
>to the P3 buttons.

I have one button assigned to RESET that is handy when I use the P3 to
see my transmitted signal (like the received ones). Handy for judging
your TX EQ settings.

Jim - W4RKS
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[Elecraft] Different reflectors for different models

[wb5xx]

I doubt the owners will even consider doing such a thing.Surprised that anyone 
would propose doing this.I am a reader and not a poster to every subject.
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Button settings

[Matt Zilmer]

Tap:
Peak
MKRA
zeroWfallMkrs
NB En

Hold:
Freeze
MKRB
zeroWfallAvg
Reset

You probably don't want to put Reset in your lineup.  I do a lot of
firmware testing for the developers.

73,
matt
W6NIA


On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 20:48:17 -0500, you wrote:

>Anyone have any suggestions with regard to what favorite functions to assign
>to the P3 buttons.  I already have a few different Span settings assigned to
>the first four but what to do with the rest?
>
>73,
>Ron, K5HM
>k5hm@gmail.com
>www.qrz.com/db/k5hm
>
>    Excelsior!
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Button Settings

[Jerry Moore]

I've read where it can be used for easy/quick band/mode shortcuts. Typically
you'd want to automate anything that requires multiple button presses and
you often use that setup.

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of James
Wilson
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 9:29 AM
To: Elecraft
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Button Settings

>Anyone have any suggestions with regard to what favorite >functions to 
>assign to the P3 buttons.

I have one button assigned to RESET that is handy when I use the P3 to see
my transmitted signal (like the received ones). Handy for judging your TX EQ
settings.

Jim - W4RKS
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[Elecraft] Different Reflectors for different models

[Howard Hoyt]

And of course there is a group dedicated to the Elecraft KX-Line (KX3, 
KXPA100 & PX3) at:


https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/KX3/info 



We welcome all who are interested in this great rig, as well as in the 
KXPA100 and PX3!  Given the KX-Line's nature and purpose separate from 
the K-Line, it makes sense to have it's own group. Much of the 
discussion focuses on the portable aspect of KX3 use such as batteries, 
antennas, etc.. You do have to sign up for Yahoo Groups to be a member, 
but that is very quick and painless.


The K-Line like most Elecraft equipment is fantastically integrated and 
as such benefits from this once Elecraft discussion group.


Howie - WA4PSC
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[Elecraft] K3/KX3 and win4k suite..using multiple virtual com port generators

[wgrav...@juno.com]

I have both units connected to win4k3.. the k3 on com 3 , the kx3 on com 4. I 
am using com0com as my virtual port generator on com3 per Tom's advice.

The problem arises with the 3rd party software (LOGGER32) when I switch rigs. 
com0com is working for the k3 on com 3 , but when I switch to the kx3, I
have no virtual com ports for com 4 and LOGGER32 wont work ie no dynamic kx3 
freq readouts on the new contact log page.

Any suggestions ? is there a virtual com port generator out there that will 
handle multiple com ports at the same time  ?? Can I just unplug the k3 on com 
3 or is that really
going to mess things up ?

Thanks for your help.
73,

Bill, W5PGZ

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/KX3 and win4k suite..using multiple virtual com port generators

[Tom]

Hi
I have replied off list.
Thanks

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On Aug 24, 2015, 11:07 AM, at 11:07 AM, "wgrav...@juno.com"  
wrote:
>I have both units connected to win4k3.. the k3 on com 3 , the kx3 on
>com 4. I am using com0com as my virtual port generator on com3 per
>Tom's advice.
>
>The problem arises with the 3rd party software (LOGGER32) when I switch
>rigs. com0com is working for the k3 on com 3 , but when I switch to the
>kx3, I
>have no virtual com ports for com 4 and LOGGER32 wont work ie no
>dynamic kx3 freq readouts on the new contact log page.
>
>Any suggestions ? is there a virtual com port generator out there that
>will handle multiple com ports at the same time  ?? Can I just unplug
>the k3 on com 3 or is that really
>going to mess things up ?
>
>Thanks for your help.
>73,
>
>Bill, W5PGZ
>
>Heavy rains mean flooding
>Anywhere it rains it can flood. Learn your risk. Get flood insurance.
>http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/55d8a31dd61d231c0a02st02duc
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Re: [Elecraft] Different Reflectors for different models

[Guy Olinger K2AV]

I don't get it.

Even for a whole day of mail for one of the busiest reflectors around, my
Gmail app for the iPhone will let me
delete out personally uninteresting email by subject line in less than 30
seconds.

Are some of us *offended* by seeing email we're not interested in? What's
going on?

I do have Elecraft Mail all gathered to one folder by filter.  All my
reflector mail is filtered to folder by reflector.  If I look at
Elecraft my usual four or five times a day, clearing out uninteresting
subjects is a five second exercise if even that.

Common email tools seem more than adequate to the task. And spam for some
months now seems to be running at a tenth of prior volume.

73, Guy K2AV



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity Audio Equalizer question / clarification

[Mike K2MK]

Hi Jerry,

That's an interesting question. You can vary the volume of each receiver but
the settings you make in RX EQ apply to both receivers.

73,
Mike K2MK



ae4pb wrote
> Reading the manual I see there's an audio equalizer feature to tune the
> audio to our liking. Is it possible when using subrx to independently
> adjust the equalizer for each ear? I ask because I have some hearing loss
> at some frequencies from my time in the Navy. As a result, sounds are
> often different when heard by each ear. I'd like to be able to tune each
> side for comfort and best sound. My inference is that each receiver has
> it's own DSP so the capability may already be available and I'm missing it
> in the manual. From what I read it appears to be an adjustment for overall
> RX or TX and not RX Left/Right. 
> If this is not an available function I'd like to submit it as a possible
> feature add for future revisions.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> Jerry Moore
> AE4PB, Future K3S owner.





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Re: [Elecraft] If it plugs in, then it should work

[Edward R Cole]

Obviously you've never been in the military?  (or forgot?)

The military is a big "testing pool" for "idiots" (please note the 
quotes for idiot-its use is tongue-in-cheek).  I used to work for 
Hughes Aircraft writing "tech manuals" for the military.  You could 
not assume the operator knew anything technical.  You told him what 
to look at and what to push-twist-connect in a very rigid sequence 
with big red WARNING inserted liberally throughout the 
manual.  Typical user was a private with no technical knowledge.  He 
was just going to "use it".


But George is also correct that the process of idiot-proofing is a 
"fools errand".


I heard back for the military techs that worked on this stuff that 
they "ripped the schematics out of the manual" and trashed the 
rest.  So much for my efforts.


Later in my professional life I did apply my tech writing skills 
toward training unskilled personnel on how to set up portable 
repeaters, towers, antennas, etc.  I taught an annual "radio" class 
to "refresh" their memory.  It helped somewhat.  They at least knew 
they were in trouble with me if they broke something - ha!


73, Ed - KL7UW

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George Danner wrote:
> Once you start down the path to "Idiot-Proofing" equipment, you will soon
> learn that the average idiot is much more clever than you ever imagined!
>
> 73 George AI4VZ

Actually the real idiots are the ones attempting to do the idiot proofing.

I have never understood why anyone would want to build equipment that
could be used by idiots.


73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
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Re: [Elecraft] Different Reflectors for different models

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Let's end this thread at this time.

We prefer to keep the Elecraft list as our central and official gathering place 
for info on all of our products. We always post here first when making new 
announcements,  and we also are not able to watch a multitude of different 
fragmented lists 100%. We do try to watch this list as much as possible, both 
for questions and for great product ideas :-)  Also, many of our customers own 
multiple products from Elecraft. This list is the central point to check for 
info on all of our products, and its by far the best place to ask questions 
about any of our products etc.


Plus, this list serves as our major motivator to keep on creating cool products 
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[Elecraft] K3 Aux RF mod for Rx out (No Sub-Rx)

[Russ]

I would like to split my K3's Rx feed to also feed my new SDRPlay SDR.
One way is to put a splitter (I'd use a mini-circuits ZFSC-2-1W+ or similar) 
between the KXV3A's Rx In and Rx out ports and suffer the 3 dB loss (which 
should be insignificant since my ambient noise is far above the K3's Rx noise 
floor.Another way - I think - since I do not have a Sub-Rx is to make the 
Aux-RF BNC an output fed off of the cable that normally feeds (the nonexistent 
in my case) Sub- Rx.  This leaves RX in/Out available for a transverter later 
on.  BTW - I think this will still incur the 3 dB loss - albeit insignificant
For those of you who are more familiar with the topology of the K3 - is there a 
simple way to accomplish #2 without buggering up the rig?
Thanks, Russ KD4JO
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[Elecraft] kx3 for trade.

[bill.va3ol]

I want to trade my kx3 with the following options/ add ons:

KX3 ser # 500s
Options - all
Mic, battery chgr, dual roofing filter board, usb cable, internal tuner,
pckt accessory cables, KXPD3 paddles, KXPD3 upgrade kit,

Plus: sidekix and lexan cover ($70)
DC to DC converter (battery booster) (4 amp)[allows full power out when
using an external SLA battery, even when the battery drops to 10.5 volts.
  8 Eneloop batteries
XG50 (extended Temperature compensation)[$40]

Appearance 9.9 out of 10: performance: no issues. Pictures on request,
questions happily answered.

I want to trade for a TenTec Eagle with ATU, NB and CW fillter.

Bill, VA3OL Near Orillia, Ontario.
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[Elecraft] FS K2-100

[Tomy]

 For Sale Nice K2-100 with KAT-100 Tuner.Please see add at QTH.COM 73! KF7GC

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[Elecraft] SW TONE

[Doug Wetzel]

Thanks to Dwayne Rohmer for a very  helpful suggestion which solved the
problem.  I had, indeed, turned the CW monitor sidetone down completely,
and returning it to an audible state also returned the button beep to
operation as well.  Kudos to the list for being a superb resource

Doug
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Utility

[Brian Linn]

Warren:

FYI. I'm running into serial ports on the PC, not USB.

Brian KD0HII

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Warren 
Merkel
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 07:21
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Utility

Brian,

I had this happen to me one time.I believe it was trying to find the
KAT500 on a port that was no longer the correct COM port.   A device was
there but it wasn't the KAT500.Try unplugging all other USB devices
that you can, leaving only the KAT500 connected,  and start the application 
again.  (Kill the task in the process list if you see it's already there)  If 
no joy, try disabling any COM port sharing software you might be using as well.

I just tried to find where the KAT500 utility stores config info and 
interestingly didn't find a thing in what looks to be the right place
(  %appdata%\Elecraft\KAT500 Configuration)   The folder is empty!
Was hoping it was just a config file that we could look at.

Might I suggest you look in the Control Panel Device Manager, and
determine which port is being assigned to the KAT500.   It should be
listed under "Ports and LPT"   It shows up as "USB Serial Port (COMx)"  
Where "x" is a number.  Make mental note of what the COMx is in your
case.That at least means that the KAT500 is being recognized by the
computer and is assigned a COM port.   If this port assignment doesn't
make sense from what you expect or what it was using previously, possibly the 
Utility is hung  while trying to use different port than what it is being 
assigned to the KAT500 now-- and not doing a good job of telling you it's 
having an issue.

Have you tried uninstalling the Utility completely and then reinstall
it?   Hopefully the uninstaller will remove the incorrect configuration
information on the way out.  The developer needs to chime in on where that is 
kept.

Warren
KD4Z


On 8/23/2015 10:22 PM, Ken K6MR wrote:
> This is a tough one given that everyone else is likely running without issue.
>
> The common/obvious question: did you install as Administrator and are you 
> running the utility as Administrator? Depending on resource requests from the 
> program this can be a problem. Is the user you are running as an 
> Administrator? If not, right click on the setup file and select “Run as 
> Administrator”. Do the same when running the Utility. 
>
> I just downloaded the latest utility and installed/ran without issue.  This 
> is Win10 x64, but I also run it on W7.
>
> Ken K6MR
>
>
> From: Brian Linn
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 17:22
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Utility
>
>
> To Anyone!
>
>  
>
> Issue: KAT500 Utility will not run
>
> Version: 1.14.4.10
>
> Windows: 7 Pro 64 bit
>
> Observations:
>
> 1)  It appears to correctly install
>
> 2)  When one attempts to start the utility, it shows in the Task Manager
> as a process (KAT500Utility.exe *32)
>
> 3)  The application window does not show on the screen.
>
> 4)  The application is not listed in the Task Manager under
> Applications.
>
> 5)  If one attempts to start the utility again, the application window
> will show on the screen and a second process will show in the Task 
> Manager processes.
>
> 6)  The application then goes into a Not Responding state.
>
>  
>
> Any ideas are welcome.
>
>  
>
> 73,
>
> Brian KD0HII
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Aux RF mod for Rx out (No Sub-Rx)

[Don Wilhelm]

Russ,

Are you trying to use your SDR as a Panadapter, or do you want to share 
the antenna that the K3 is connected to with that receiver?


If you want to use it as a Panadapter, then you need to connect it to 
the K3 IF output (assuming you have the KXV3A option installed).


If you want to share the antenna, then the splitter is a solution - what 
about protection for your SDR receiver when the K3 is transmitting?


73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/24/2015 2:18 PM, Russ wrote:

I would like to split my K3's Rx feed to also feed my new SDRPlay SDR.
One way is to put a splitter (I'd use a mini-circuits ZFSC-2-1W+ or similar) 
between the KXV3A's Rx In and Rx out ports and suffer the 3 dB loss (which 
should be insignificant since my ambient noise is far above the K3's Rx noise 
floor.Another way - I think - since I do not have a Sub-Rx is to make the 
Aux-RF BNC an output fed off of the cable that normally feeds (the nonexistent 
in my case) Sub- Rx.  This leaves RX in/Out available for a transverter later 
on.  BTW - I think this will still incur the 3 dB loss - albeit insignificant
For those of you who are more familiar with the topology of the K3 - is there a 
simple way to accomplish #2 without buggering up the rig?



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[Elecraft] Kat2

[Martin F. Jue]

Does anyone have a KAT2 auto tuner for the K2 for sale?

Martin, K5FLU
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Utility

[Kenneth Christiansen]

Hi to the group.

I have not wanted to get into this discussion but I have had a similar problem 
with other programs and will throw this out just in case it is your problem. If 
you have a second monitor and display that program on the second monitor the 
program will not show up on the main monitor even if the second monitor is 
missing. I had to put my second monitor back on and move the program back to 
see it. This happens on Windows 8, 8.1 and 10 so you might give that a try. 

73 and hope I did not waste band width.

Ken  W0CZ   w0cz at i29 dot net

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 24, 2015, at 6:34 PM, Brian Linn  wrote:
> 
> Warren:
> 
> FYI. I'm running into serial ports on the PC, not USB.
> 
> Brian KD0HII
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Warren 
> Merkel
> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 07:21
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Utility
> 
> Brian,
> 
> I had this happen to me one time.I believe it was trying to find the
> KAT500 on a port that was no longer the correct COM port.   A device was
> there but it wasn't the KAT500.Try unplugging all other USB devices
> that you can, leaving only the KAT500 connected,  and start the application 
> again.  (Kill the task in the process list if you see it's already there)  If 
> no joy, try disabling any COM port sharing software you might be using as 
> well.
> 
> I just tried to find where the KAT500 utility stores config info and 
> interestingly didn't find a thing in what looks to be the right place
> (  %appdata%\Elecraft\KAT500 Configuration)   The folder is empty!
> Was hoping it was just a config file that we could look at.
> 
> Might I suggest you look in the Control Panel Device Manager, and
> determine which port is being assigned to the KAT500.   It should be
> listed under "Ports and LPT"   It shows up as "USB Serial Port (COMx)"  
> Where "x" is a number.  Make mental note of what the COMx is in your
> case.That at least means that the KAT500 is being recognized by the
> computer and is assigned a COM port.   If this port assignment doesn't
> make sense from what you expect or what it was using previously, possibly the 
> Utility is hung  while trying to use different port than what it is being 
> assigned to the KAT500 now-- and not doing a good job of telling you it's 
> having an issue.
> 
> Have you tried uninstalling the Utility completely and then reinstall
> it?   Hopefully the uninstaller will remove the incorrect configuration
> information on the way out.  The developer needs to chime in on where that is 
> kept.
> 
> Warren
> KD4Z
> 
> 
>> On 8/23/2015 10:22 PM, Ken K6MR wrote:
>> This is a tough one given that everyone else is likely running without issue.
>> 
>> The common/obvious question: did you install as Administrator and are you 
>> running the utility as Administrator? Depending on resource requests from 
>> the program this can be a problem. Is the user you are running as an 
>> Administrator? If not, right click on the setup file and select “Run as 
>> Administrator”. Do the same when running the Utility. 
>> 
>> I just downloaded the latest utility and installed/ran without issue.  This 
>> is Win10 x64, but I also run it on W7.
>> 
>> Ken K6MR
>> 
>> 
>> From: Brian Linn
>> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 17:22
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Utility
>> 
>> 
>> To Anyone!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Issue: KAT500 Utility will not run
>> 
>> Version: 1.14.4.10
>> 
>> Windows: 7 Pro 64 bit
>> 
>> Observations:
>> 
>> 1)  It appears to correctly install
>> 
>> 2)  When one attempts to start the utility, it shows in the Task Manager
>> as a process (KAT500Utility.exe *32)
>> 
>> 3)  The application window does not show on the screen.
>> 
>> 4)  The application is not listed in the Task Manager under
>> Applications.
>> 
>> 5)  If one attempts to start the utility again, the application window
>> will show on the screen and a second process will show in the Task 
>> Manager processes.
>> 
>> 6)  The application then goes into a Not Responding state.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Any ideas are welcome.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Brian KD0HII
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Utility

[Brian Linn]

All:

Thanks for the input. I've determined that I do indeed have a problem with the 
4 port serial card. Thus, before going any further here, I'm going to run some 
tests and see about getting the ports working properly.

73, Brian KD0HII

-Original Message-
From: Kenneth Christiansen [mailto:w...@i29.net] 
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 20:41
To: Brian Linn
Cc: Warren Merkel; 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Utility

Hi to the group.

I have not wanted to get into this discussion but I have had a similar problem 
with other programs and will throw this out just in case it is your problem. If 
you have a second monitor and display that program on the second monitor the 
program will not show up on the main monitor even if the second monitor is 
missing. I had to put my second monitor back on and move the program back to 
see it. This happens on Windows 8, 8.1 and 10 so you might give that a try. 

73 and hope I did not waste band width.

Ken  W0CZ   w0cz at i29 dot net

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 24, 2015, at 6:34 PM, Brian Linn  wrote:
> 
> Warren:
> 
> FYI. I'm running into serial ports on the PC, not USB.
> 
> Brian KD0HII
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
> Warren Merkel
> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 07:21
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Utility
> 
> Brian,
> 
> I had this happen to me one time.I believe it was trying to find the
> KAT500 on a port that was no longer the correct COM port.   A device was
> there but it wasn't the KAT500.Try unplugging all other USB devices
> that you can, leaving only the KAT500 connected,  and start the application 
> again.  (Kill the task in the process list if you see it's already there)  If 
> no joy, try disabling any COM port sharing software you might be using as 
> well.
> 
> I just tried to find where the KAT500 utility stores config info and 
> interestingly didn't find a thing in what looks to be the right place
> (  %appdata%\Elecraft\KAT500 Configuration)   The folder is empty!
> Was hoping it was just a config file that we could look at.
> 
> Might I suggest you look in the Control Panel Device Manager, and
> determine which port is being assigned to the KAT500.   It should be
> listed under "Ports and LPT"   It shows up as "USB Serial Port (COMx)"  
> Where "x" is a number.  Make mental note of what the COMx is in your
> case.That at least means that the KAT500 is being recognized by the
> computer and is assigned a COM port.   If this port assignment doesn't
> make sense from what you expect or what it was using previously, possibly the 
> Utility is hung  while trying to use different port than what it is being 
> assigned to the KAT500 now-- and not doing a good job of telling you it's 
> having an issue.
> 
> Have you tried uninstalling the Utility completely and then reinstall
> it?   Hopefully the uninstaller will remove the incorrect configuration
> information on the way out.  The developer needs to chime in on where that is 
> kept.
> 
> Warren
> KD4Z
> 
> 
>> On 8/23/2015 10:22 PM, Ken K6MR wrote:
>> This is a tough one given that everyone else is likely running without issue.
>> 
>> The common/obvious question: did you install as Administrator and are you 
>> running the utility as Administrator? Depending on resource requests from 
>> the program this can be a problem. Is the user you are running as an 
>> Administrator? If not, right click on the setup file and select “Run as 
>> Administrator”. Do the same when running the Utility. 
>> 
>> I just downloaded the latest utility and installed/ran without issue.  This 
>> is Win10 x64, but I also run it on W7.
>> 
>> Ken K6MR
>> 
>> 
>> From: Brian Linn
>> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 17:22
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Utility
>> 
>> 
>> To Anyone!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Issue: KAT500 Utility will not run
>> 
>> Version: 1.14.4.10
>> 
>> Windows: 7 Pro 64 bit
>> 
>> Observations:
>> 
>> 1)  It appears to correctly install
>> 
>> 2)  When one attempts to start the utility, it shows in the Task Manager
>> as a process (KAT500Utility.exe *32)
>> 
>> 3)  The application window does not show on the screen.
>> 
>> 4)  The application is not listed in the Task Manager under
>> Applications.
>> 
>> 5)  If one attempts to start the utility again, the application window
>> will show on the screen and a second process will show in the Task 
>> Manager processes.
>> 
>> 6)  The application then goes into a Not Responding state.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Any ideas are welcome.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Brian KD0HII
>> 
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[Elecraft] Multiple KUSB Connects

[David Ahrendts]

In a multiple Elecraft device station, I’m curious if anyone connects all KUSBs 
to a USB hub semi-permanently so that when you need a connection you already 
have that hardware access? Realizing you cannot run two Utility programs 
simultaneously (at least I haven’t had success with that), what is your setup? 
I have attempted with a USB hub into a Mac Mini with marginal success. Please 
opine.

David A., KC0XT



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Re: [Elecraft] Multiple KUSB Connects

[Dick Dievendorff]

I use either an Edgeport 8-port USB to serial adapter, or a Gearmo 4-port USB 
to serial adapter, or a KUSB or KXUSB depending on what I'm testing.
No USB hubs here, tho.

73 de Dick, K6KR



> On Aug 24, 2015, at 18:57, David Ahrendts  wrote:
> 
> In a multiple Elecraft device station, I’m curious if anyone connects all 
> KUSBs to a USB hub semi-permanently so that when you need a connection you 
> already have that hardware access? Realizing you cannot run two Utility 
> programs simultaneously (at least I haven’t had success with that), what is 
> your setup? I have attempted with a USB hub into a Mac Mini with marginal 
> success. Please opine.
> 
> David A., KC0XT
> 
> 
> 
> David Ahrendts   davidahren...@me.com   
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Re: [Elecraft] Multiple KUSB Connects

[Phil Wheeler]

Hmm .. I've not tried that. I'd be cautious trying 
it. Really no need, after all.


73, Phil W7OX

On 8/24/15 6:57 PM, David Ahrendts wrote:

In a multiple Elecraft device station, I’m curious if anyone connects all KUSBs 
to a USB hub semi-permanently so that when you need a connection you already 
have that hardware access? Realizing you cannot run two Utility programs 
simultaneously (at least I haven’t had success with that), what is your setup? 
I have attempted with a USB hub into a Mac Mini with marginal success. Please 
opine.

David A., KC0XT


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Re: [Elecraft] Multiple KUSB Connects

[Kenneth Christiansen]

 Hi to the group again
I have a USB hub with a USB to rs232 for my K3 and another for my KX3. I have 
never tried to run both at the same time but they have both been on the same 
hub for 2 years and they always work, Port 4 for one, Port  7 for the other and 
Port 5 for the WinKeyer USB which I know works at the same time as the KX3.

Again hope I did not waste band width but thought my experiance would help.

73

Ken W0CZ   w0cz at i29 dot net

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> On Aug 24, 2015, at 8:57 PM, David Ahrendts  wrote:
> 
> In a multiple Elecraft device station, I’m curious if anyone connects all 
> KUSBs to a USB hub semi-permanently so that when you need a connection you 
> already have that hardware access? Realizing you cannot run two Utility 
> programs simultaneously (at least I haven’t had success with that), what is 
> your setup? I have attempted with a USB hub into a Mac Mini with marginal 
> success. Please opine.
> 
> David A., KC0XT
> 
> 
> 
> David Ahrendts   davidahren...@me.com   
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Multiple KUSB Connects

[David Ahrendts]

Yes, Phil, you’re probably right. Probably over-think here. But there are 
KAT500 parameters that can be more easily managed in real time with the KAT500 
Utility, so I thought I’d give it a try. Dunno, in the bigger picture, might 
this be he precursor to the idea of software control or software monitoring of 
Elecraft devices? Maybe. My problem is when I connect five KUSBs they all have 
10-or-12-digit names that I have to go through manually to find my device that 
I want to control (I know, I know, poor me!!!). AND they are power hogs. Mac OS 
X shuts ‘em down: too much power suck combined. So, you need a powered USB hub 
to connect a few.  

> On Aug 24, 2015, at 7:11 PM, Phil Wheeler  wrote:
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> Hmm .. I've not tried that. I'd be cautious trying it. Really no need, after 
> all.
> 
> 73, Phil W7OX
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> On 8/24/15 6:57 PM, David Ahrendts wrote:
>> In a multiple Elecraft device station, I’m curious if anyone connects all 
>> KUSBs to a USB hub semi-permanently so that when you need a connection you 
>> already have that hardware access? Realizing you cannot run two Utility 
>> programs simultaneously (at least I haven’t had success with that), what is 
>> your setup? I have attempted with a USB hub into a Mac Mini with marginal 
>> success. Please opine.
>> 
>> David A., KC0XT
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Re: [Elecraft] Multiple KUSB Connects

[Jack Brindle]

Works just fine for me. I use a powered USB hub. A standard USB port can 
deliver a maximum of 500 mA for USB2 ports, or 750mA for USB ports. That should 
power a lot of USB-Serial ports, but as they say, your mileage may vary. 

I use an FTDI four-port USB adapter (it’s a development device from Mouser). OS 
X nicely identifies each port as the serial number followed by A, B, C or D. I 
also use several single-port FTDI devices and note their id numbers so that I 
can associate them with what they are connected to. All work pretty well. They 
are connected as follows to my 2009-vintage Mac mini: The four-port device 
plugs directly into the mini, while the other ports plug into a 7-port powered 
USB hub. I need at least five to communicate with various Elecraft devices, and 
actually can run multiple device Utility programs simultaneously. We don’t 
recommend that folks do that, but it works for me.

By the way, my worst-case test used a total of nine FTDI USB-Serial adapters 
with the mini. All worked quite well, used with several different applications 
running concurrently. So, it will work.

73!

Jack, W6FB

> On Aug 24, 2015, at 8:20 PM, David Ahrendts  wrote:
> 
> Yes, Phil, you’re probably right. Probably over-think here. But there are 
> KAT500 parameters that can be more easily managed in real time with the 
> KAT500 Utility, so I thought I’d give it a try. Dunno, in the bigger picture, 
> might this be he precursor to the idea of software control or software 
> monitoring of Elecraft devices? Maybe. My problem is when I connect five 
> KUSBs they all have 10-or-12-digit names that I have to go through manually 
> to find my device that I want to control (I know, I know, poor me!!!). AND 
> they are power hogs. Mac OS X shuts ‘em down: too much power suck combined. 
> So, you need a powered USB hub to connect a few.  
> 
>> On Aug 24, 2015, at 7:11 PM, Phil Wheeler  wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm .. I've not tried that. I'd be cautious trying it. Really no need, after 
>> all.
>> 
>> 73, Phil W7OX
>> 
>> On 8/24/15 6:57 PM, David Ahrendts wrote:
>>> In a multiple Elecraft device station, I’m curious if anyone connects all 
>>> KUSBs to a USB hub semi-permanently so that when you need a connection you 
>>> already have that hardware access? Realizing you cannot run two Utility 
>>> programs simultaneously (at least I haven’t had success with that), what is 
>>> your setup? I have attempted with a USB hub into a Mac Mini with marginal 
>>> success. Please opine.
>>> 
>>> David A., KC0XT
>> 
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