Re: [Elecraft] More precise signal strength

[Bob Wilson, N6TV]

See "VFO B Alternate Displays", page 36 of the current K3 Owner's Manual.
To summarize,

Set CONFIG:TECH MD ON
Tap DISP to see something other than VFO B freq
Rotate VFO B to see AFV, which displays the AF output as a voltage reading,
independent of AF gain.
When it stabilizes, rotate VFO B to see dBv
Adjust CONFIG:AFV TIM if you need more than one second to average the noise.

But if you're trying to measure noise or signal level in absolute dBm, use
the P3 in Peak mode.

73,
Bob, N6TV

On Jun 18, 2017 7:16 PM, "N4ZR"  wrote:

> Sorry for the misformatted message just now.  Herewith a cleaner version
>
> My K3 is getting old, but just had both synthesizers replaced - wow - and
> I'd like measurement of noise levels that is more precise than the
> S-meter.  Is there a menu pick or other way of accessing numeric signal and
> noise levels analogous to the way that the radio displays SWR when in Tune
> mode?
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Newsletter

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I don't play SPAM...



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Re: [Elecraft] Using Heil Pro Set Elite boom mic on K3.. what adapter is required?

[Michael Chowning]

I have a Heil Pro Set Elite 6 with a 1/4 phone plug and 1/8 mic plug but when I 
looked closer at the 1/4 plug I realized that it is an adapter!  The phone plug 
really is 1/8 plug that plugged into the adapter.  It is not noticeable until I 
tugged on it slightly and it come apart.  Then I looked at the box, and it 
shows a picture of the two leads - 1/8 plugs with a separate 1/4 adapter.
Mike, N8TTR

> On Jun 18, 2017, at 10:38 PM, Dave Fugleberg  wrote:
> 
> Jim, I and several of my friends have various models of the Pro Set, and
> every one I've seen had the 1/8 inch plugs for both mic and phones, but
> perhaps some models are different. Mine has an adapter for the phones to
> convert to 1/4 inch when needed- it's low profile and adds very little
> length to the plug. I seldom use the adapter, as I prefer to use the rear
> jacks on the K3 and keep the front panel clear of wires.
> 73 de W0ZF
> On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 9:06 PM Jim Rhodes  wrote:
> 
>> Hmm, mine has a 1/4 inch stereo plug for phones.
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Dave Fugleberg 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> The  Heil pro sets have  a 1/8 inch stereo plug for the phones and a1/8
>>> inch mono plug for the mic. Those will plug right into the back of the K3
>>> without an adapter. If you prefer using the front panel mic connector,
>>> you'll need the Heil AD-1-K adapter.
>>> In either case, don't forget to set the menu selection for which mic
>>> (front
>>> or rear) you want to use.
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 7:55 PM mjpilgrim  wrote:
>>> 
 I am soon to be the owner of a used K3.  I presently use a Heil Pro Set
 Elite
 boom mic for my IC-7600 and want to know if anyone here has used this
>>> mic
 on
 a K3, and if so,  what adapter did you use to connect to the round 8-pin
 mic
 input on the K3?  I'd like to hear your ideas.  Thanks
 Mike, K5MP
 Boca Raton, Fl
 
 
 
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[Elecraft] KX3 Temperature Compensation

[Jim Brown]

A year or so ago, I performed the temperature compensation routine on my 
KX3, with the goal of being able to use it with WSJT modes like JT65, 
JT9, MSK144. I loaned it to W6JTI for his expedition to CM79, and acted 
as his pilot, monitoring him on the air from his home a few miles away. 
The radio drifts quite badly -- 600 Hz or more on 6M. Am I missing a 
menu setting to turn TC on?  Any other possible causes (other than that 
I screwed up the rountine)?


I told Frank to keep the rig so that he can get familiar with it, but 
we'll be together on FD, so I'd like to fix it if possible.


Thanks and 73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] Newsletter

[Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT]

Now I understand.  My service provider blocks MailChimp because of their 
list management policies.


73 -- Lynn

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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 heatsink

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Yes. I was busy cooking dinner and was glancing at the power displayed on an
external meter from time to time. 

I've not seen the power shut down on me, but then I'm seldom running QRO
(>10 watts) with any rig. 

73, Ron AC7AC

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From: Wayne Burdick [mailto:n...@elecraft.com] 
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To: Ron D'Eau Claire
Cc: Irma & Linas(LY2H); elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 heatsink

Auto power reduction happens at 63 C. But it may very well have gone down to
55 C awhile after dropping to 5 W. 

Wayne
N6KR


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> On Jun 18, 2017, at 4:38 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire  wrote:
> 
> Sri, I meant the temp was 55C, not 45C after the automatic power 
> reduction kicked in.
> 
> 73 Ron AC7AC
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau 
> Claire
> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 4:28 PM
> To: 'Irma & Linas(LY2H)'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 heatsink
> 
> Fired up my "stock from the factory" KX2 into a dummy load at 10 
> watts, key down, and it dropped to 5 watts after 4 minutes running 
> from a 13.8 vdc supply.  PA temp was about 45C.
> 
> Hope that helps with your analysis.
> 
> 73, Ron AC7AC
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Irma & 
> Linas(LY2H)
> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:33 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 heatsink
> 
> Hello folks,
> I am looking for the practical , empyrical, real info based on the 
> individual measurements of the maximum Key-down time/temperature at 
> the 10w output of the KX2 before it drops down to 5 W issuing a 
> message of "HI TEMP". I would also like to learn about comparison of 
> the KX2 stock heatsink vs the Pro-audio Engineering KX22 product.
> 
> The reason is that I have decided to install the KX22 on my KX2 ( # 
> 148*) after a short dx-pedition to Aland islands in May. I was 
> handling quite a pile-up from the hotel room and after some 5 min of 
> intensive CQ-ing and answering on CW the PA temperature gone up to 
> 59-60C degrees and the power dropped down to 5 W and it was 
> frustrating :) Today I have installed the PAE
> KX22 heatsink. The key-down at 10 W into a dummy load in CW mode 
> lasted for around 3 minutes starting from the ambient temp. 27C. I 
> don't think this is very impressive baring in mind the Pro-audio's  
> claim of the 250% key-down time improvement. Unfortunately, I was not 
> so smart to test the key-down time with the stock heatsink before I 
> changed it to the new one, :) But I remember Wayne was posting  here 
> in the previous thread something abt 7 min of key-down at 10W... So, 
> with the 250% improvement with the KX22 it should last... for some 24 
> min?! in my case, It doesn't sound very realistic , neither 7 min with 
> the stock heatsink, nor 24 min with the Pro-Audio ( maybe ,bad thermal 
> contact, not enough of grease?). That's why it would be very 
> interesting  to compare the real-life empyrical data of the other KX2
owners.
> 
> 73! Linas LY2H
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Re: [Elecraft] Using Heil Pro Set Elite boom mic on K3.. what adapter is required?

[Dave Fugleberg]

Jim, I and several of my friends have various models of the Pro Set, and
every one I've seen had the 1/8 inch plugs for both mic and phones, but
perhaps some models are different. Mine has an adapter for the phones to
convert to 1/4 inch when needed- it's low profile and adds very little
length to the plug. I seldom use the adapter, as I prefer to use the rear
jacks on the K3 and keep the front panel clear of wires.
73 de W0ZF
On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 9:06 PM Jim Rhodes  wrote:

> Hmm, mine has a 1/4 inch stereo plug for phones.
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Dave Fugleberg 
> wrote:
>
>> The  Heil pro sets have  a 1/8 inch stereo plug for the phones and a1/8
>> inch mono plug for the mic. Those will plug right into the back of the K3
>> without an adapter. If you prefer using the front panel mic connector,
>> you'll need the Heil AD-1-K adapter.
>> In either case, don't forget to set the menu selection for which mic
>> (front
>> or rear) you want to use.
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 7:55 PM mjpilgrim  wrote:
>>
>> > I am soon to be the owner of a used K3.  I presently use a Heil Pro Set
>> > Elite
>> > boom mic for my IC-7600 and want to know if anyone here has used this
>> mic
>> > on
>> > a K3, and if so,  what adapter did you use to connect to the round 8-pin
>> > mic
>> > input on the K3?  I'd like to hear your ideas.  Thanks
>> > Mike, K5MP
>> > Boca Raton, Fl
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
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>> >
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Re: [Elecraft] Newsletter

[Fred Jensen]

Look in your junk folder, that's where mine ended up.

73,

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On 6/18/2017 5:34 PM, Harry Meyer wrote:
i didnt see an email newsletter, how do i get one, didnt see anything 
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[Elecraft] More precise signal strength

[N4ZR]

Sorry for the misformatted message just now.  Herewith a cleaner version

My K3 is getting old, but just had both synthesizers replaced - wow - 
and I'd like measurement of noise levels that is more precise than the 
S-meter.  Is there a menu pick or other way of accessing numeric signal 
and noise levels analogous to the way that the radio displays SWR when 
in Tune mode?


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Re: [Elecraft] Using Heil Pro Set Elite boom mic on K3.. what adapter is required?

[Jim Rhodes]

Hmm, mine has a 1/4 inch stereo plug for phones.


On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Dave Fugleberg  wrote:

> The  Heil pro sets have  a 1/8 inch stereo plug for the phones and a1/8
> inch mono plug for the mic. Those will plug right into the back of the K3
> without an adapter. If you prefer using the front panel mic connector,
> you'll need the Heil AD-1-K adapter.
> In either case, don't forget to set the menu selection for which mic (front
> or rear) you want to use.
>
> On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 7:55 PM mjpilgrim  wrote:
>
> > I am soon to be the owner of a used K3.  I presently use a Heil Pro Set
> > Elite
> > boom mic for my IC-7600 and want to know if anyone here has used this mic
> > on
> > a K3, and if so,  what adapter did you use to connect to the round 8-pin
> > mic
> > input on the K3?  I'd like to hear your ideas.  Thanks
> > Mike, K5MP
> > Boca Raton, Fl
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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Re: [Elecraft] K3+P3+Microkeyer II

[Josh]

Again, that makes no sense. OM Power  supports ELECRAFT directly and provide a 
pair of serial ports for doing so. No Y cable is necessary (and a bad idea). 

This is how OM Power describes using their product. It works fine. You're 
coming up with a workaround for a nonexistent problem. 

73,
Josh W6XU

Sent from my mobile device

> On Jun 18, 2017, at 5:20 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:
> 
> 
> microHAM has provided "cross brand" support for mixing transceivers
> and amplifiers for a dozen years or more starting with the original
> microHAM Band Decoder.  Icom has been the default interface for
> serial (CAT) controls while Yaesu (BCD) has been the default interface
> for "Band Data" control.
> 
> Since the current OM Power transceivers support Icom interfacing, it
> is the obvious choice with microHAM interfaces and has been since the
> earliest serial controlled OM Power amplifiers (those that did not
> provide for CAT pass-through).  Using the Icom controls is far more
> reliable than using a "Y" connection on a RS-232 connection; it avoids
> issues with loading RS-232 circuits and the isolated CI-V Transceive
> emulation provided by the microHAM interface avoids issues with
> collisions/corrupted commands on a shared CI-V bus.
> 
> 73,
> 
>   ... Joe, W4TV
> 
> 
>> On 6/18/2017 1:23 PM, Josh wrote:
>> I have no idea where you're getting this idea to interface as if it's a 
>> PW-1??
>> OM Power has supported Elecraft for many years. Why not review the OM Power 
>> manual's recommendation before making up an answer?
>> 73
>> Josh W6XU
>> Sent from my mobile device
>>> On Jun 18, 2017, at 6:37 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Don is off base when he talks about a system using a microHAM
>>> product.  Configure your station as shown in the application note
>>> "Using the Icom PW-1"
>>>  
>>> at http://www.microHAM-USA.com/support.html
>>> 
>>> The connection diagram for microKEYER II is here:
>>>  
>>> 
>>> You simply configure the amplifier as if it was connected to
>>> an Icom transceiver - that information is generally in the
>>> instruction manual

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Re: [Elecraft] K3+P3+Microkeyer II

[Jim Brown]

On Sun,6/18/2017 5:20 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

Using the Icom controls is far more
reliable than using a "Y" connection on a RS-232 connection; it avoids
issues with loading RS-232 circuits and the isolated CI-V Transceive
emulation provided by the microHAM interface avoids issues with
collisions/corrupted commands on a shared CI-V bus.


I know you know this, but others might not -- RS232 is NOT a matched 
system. It uses a low-Z driver and a high-Z receiver. The real issue 
with loading is CAPACITANCE -- later versions of the RS-232 Standard 
reference cable capacitance and baud rate rather than cable length as 
the limit of transmission distance. CAT5/6/7 cables are among the lowest 
capacitance paired cables we can easily buy, and their loss is fairly 
low at RF. CAT5/6/7 cables are four twisted pairs, each with a different 
twist ratio to minimize crosstalk. RS-232 cables wired to use one of 
these pairs for each of the signalling circuits are about as good as it 
gets without spending big bucks. Most ham gear uses only RXD and TXD 
(pins 2 and 3 on a DB9) with pin 5 as return.


My serial cables use two pairs to connect 2 and 3 with both pairs 
returned pin 5, and with the remaining conductors wired to the DB9 
shells. My cables are pretty short, but I've used cables like this that 
are 200 ft long or longer to connect a computer to sound system DSP to 
do system setups at fairly high baud rates.


73, Jim K9YC

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[Elecraft] Using Heil Pro Set Elite boom mic on K3.. what adapter is required?

[john]

If you want to use the front jack you will need the Kenwood adaptor.  I
assume that it is an IC model so you will need to turn on the bias.

John KK9A


K5MP said: 
Sun Jun 18 20:55:26 EDT 2017

I am soon to be the owner of a used K3.  I presently use a Heil Pro Set
Elite
boom mic for my IC-7600 and want to know if anyone here has used this mic on
a K3, and if so,  what adapter did you use to connect to the round 8-pin mic
input on the K3?  I'd like to hear your ideas.  Thanks
Mike, K5MP
Boca Raton, Fl

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[Elecraft] KX2 heatsink

[Howard Hoyt]

Hi Linas,

There are many variables which come into play when quantifying the 
performance of a thermal solution.  First off, the PA efficiency is 
different on different bands, accounting for the differing amount of 
heat rejected.  As we state in the testing data, we do tests based on 
fully convective cooling with the rig in a thermal chimney to eliminate 
drafts.  In normal use with even slight breezes and starting at 24°C the 
performance of the Kx22 is better than that listed, as we have 
experienced using the rig portable ourselves. The starting ambient 
temperature is a major factor in the performance of any heatsink.  
Thermal flux is proportional to the temperature difference between the 
source and sink, and if the sink is the same temperature as the source, 
no heat will flow. Conversely with a large difference thermal flux is 
enhanced.


Here is the raw data we developed during testing with an early s/n KX2, 
3 trials averaged, initial key-down time from 24°C to 60°C thermal 
power-reduction, 1st column stock, 2nd w/prototype Kx22 (in seconds):


10M: 105 / 225
15M: 110 / 240
20M: 145 / 360
40M: 120 / 290
80M: 150 / 370

The newer Elecraft revision with the silicone electrical isolators and 
other PA differences will not show quite as good thermal performance as 
the original design where the PA FETs were mounted directly to the 
heatsink or right end panel.  We have not yet tested the new KX2 
revision to quantify the difference.  We have however had very positive 
reports from owners of newer rigs regarding the performance of the Kx22, 
both emailed to us and reported on the Facebook KX2 page if you wish to 
read them...


Please keep in touch with us as you test your Kx22,

Howie - WA4PSC
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Re: [Elecraft] Using Heil Pro Set Elite boom mic on K3.. what adapter is required?

[Dave Fugleberg]

The  Heil pro sets have  a 1/8 inch stereo plug for the phones and a1/8
inch mono plug for the mic. Those will plug right into the back of the K3
without an adapter. If you prefer using the front panel mic connector,
you'll need the Heil AD-1-K adapter.
In either case, don't forget to set the menu selection for which mic (front
or rear) you want to use.

On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 7:55 PM mjpilgrim  wrote:

> I am soon to be the owner of a used K3.  I presently use a Heil Pro Set
> Elite
> boom mic for my IC-7600 and want to know if anyone here has used this mic
> on
> a K3, and if so,  what adapter did you use to connect to the round 8-pin
> mic
> input on the K3?  I'd like to hear your ideas.  Thanks
> Mike, K5MP
> Boca Raton, Fl
>
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[Elecraft] Using Heil Pro Set Elite boom mic on K3.. what adapter is required?

[mjpilgrim]

I am soon to be the owner of a used K3.  I presently use a Heil Pro Set Elite
boom mic for my IC-7600 and want to know if anyone here has used this mic on
a K3, and if so,  what adapter did you use to connect to the round 8-pin mic
input on the K3?  I'd like to hear your ideas.  Thanks
Mike, K5MP
Boca Raton, Fl



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Re: [Elecraft] Newsletter

[kev...@coho.net]

The Newsletter came to my inbox, not to my normal Elecraft folder.  You 
may want to check it did not get automatically tossed into the trash.


   73,

   Kevin.  KD5ONS


On 6/18/2017 5:34 PM, Harry Meyer wrote:
i didnt see an email newsletter, how do i get one, didnt see anything 
on the elecraft website


harry kc1tn


On 6/18/17 7:58 PM, MaverickNH wrote:

Me 2, keep'em coming!

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Re: [Elecraft] Newsletter

[Clay Autery]

http://us13.campaign-archive1.com/?u=ade3f9ea0defe0990b07b5b70=9ce12413f4

Plus you can see the "past" issues if you want who knew.  :)

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> i didnt see an email newsletter, how do i get one, didnt see anything
> on the elecraft website
>
> harry kc1tn
>
>
> On 6/18/17 7:58 PM, MaverickNH wrote:
>> Me 2, keep'em coming!
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>> Bret/N4SRN

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Re: [Elecraft] Newsletter

[Harry Meyer]

i didnt see an email newsletter, how do i get one, didnt see anything on 
the elecraft website


harry kc1tn


On 6/18/17 7:58 PM, MaverickNH wrote:

Me 2, keep'em coming!

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Re: [Elecraft] K3+P3+Microkeyer II

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

microHAM has provided "cross brand" support for mixing transceivers
and amplifiers for a dozen years or more starting with the original
microHAM Band Decoder.  Icom has been the default interface for
serial (CAT) controls while Yaesu (BCD) has been the default interface
for "Band Data" control.

Since the current OM Power transceivers support Icom interfacing, it
is the obvious choice with microHAM interfaces and has been since the
earliest serial controlled OM Power amplifiers (those that did not
provide for CAT pass-through).  Using the Icom controls is far more
reliable than using a "Y" connection on a RS-232 connection; it avoids
issues with loading RS-232 circuits and the isolated CI-V Transceive
emulation provided by the microHAM interface avoids issues with
collisions/corrupted commands on a shared CI-V bus.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 6/18/2017 1:23 PM, Josh wrote:

I have no idea where you're getting this idea to interface as if it's a PW-1??

OM Power has supported Elecraft for many years. Why not review the OM Power 
manual's recommendation before making up an answer?

73
Josh W6XU

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On Jun 18, 2017, at 6:37 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:


Don is off base when he talks about a system using a microHAM
product.  Configure your station as shown in the application note
"Using the Icom PW-1"
  
at http://www.microHAM-USA.com/support.html

The connection diagram for microKEYER II is here:
  

You simply configure the amplifier as if it was connected to
an Icom transceiver - that information is generally in the
instruction manual




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Re: [Elecraft] Newsletter

[Clay Autery]

What did I miss?  Is it on the website to go look at if we missed or
didn't get it?

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On 6/18/2017 6:29 PM, rboutell wrote:
> Hello,
> I enjoyed the (first edition?) Elecraft newsletter in email today.
> I hope to see more issues in the future.
>
> 73, Russ  W9RB

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Re: [Elecraft] Newsletter

[MaverickNH]

Me 2, keep'em coming!

Bret/N4SRN



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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 heatsink

[John Oppenheimer]

Hi Linas,

My KX2 dropped from 10W to 5W at 3 minutes 48 seconds of key down,
starting at 25C.

John KN5L
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 heatsink

[Wayne Burdick]

Auto power reduction happens at 63 C. But it may very well have gone down to 55 
C awhile after dropping to 5 W. 

Wayne
N6KR


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> On Jun 18, 2017, at 4:38 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire  wrote:
> 
> Sri, I meant the temp was 55C, not 45C after the automatic power reduction
> kicked in. 
> 
> 73 Ron AC7AC
> 
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> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire
> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 4:28 PM
> To: 'Irma & Linas(LY2H)'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 heatsink
> 
> Fired up my "stock from the factory" KX2 into a dummy load at 10 watts, key
> down, and it dropped to 5 watts after 4 minutes running from a 13.8 vdc
> supply.  PA temp was about 45C. 
> 
> Hope that helps with your analysis.
> 
> 73, Ron AC7AC
> 
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> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Irma & Linas(LY2H)
> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:33 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 heatsink
> 
> Hello folks,
> I am looking for the practical , empyrical, real info based on the
> individual measurements of the maximum Key-down time/temperature at the 10w
> output of the KX2 before it drops down to 5 W issuing a message of "HI
> TEMP". I would also like to learn about comparison of the KX2 stock heatsink
> vs the Pro-audio Engineering KX22 product.
> 
> The reason is that I have decided to install the KX22 on my KX2 ( # 148*)
> after a short dx-pedition to Aland islands in May. I was handling quite a
> pile-up from the hotel room and after some 5 min of intensive CQ-ing and
> answering on CW the PA temperature gone up to 59-60C degrees and the power
> dropped down to 5 W and it was frustrating :) Today I have installed the PAE
> KX22 heatsink. The key-down at 10 W into a dummy load in CW mode lasted for
> around 3 minutes starting from the ambient temp. 27C. I don't think this is
> very impressive baring in mind the Pro-audio's  claim of the 250% key-down
> time improvement. Unfortunately, I was not so smart to test the key-down
> time with the stock heatsink before I changed it to the new one, :) But I
> remember Wayne was posting  here in the previous thread something abt 7 min
> of key-down at 10W... So, with the 250% improvement with the KX22 it should
> last... for some 24 min?! in my case, It doesn't sound very realistic ,
> neither 7 min with the stock heatsink, nor 24 min with the Pro-Audio ( maybe
> ,bad thermal contact, not enough of grease?). That's why it would be very
> interesting  to compare the real-life empyrical data of the other KX2
> owners.
> 
> 73! Linas LY2H
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 heatsink

[Clay Autery]

Definitely sounds like a heatsink to source interface issue.  Either not
a flush enough fit, missing, wrong, or not appropriately applied thermal
compound...

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On 6/18/2017 5:26 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> I would check to be certain the PA transistors are in full contact
> with the heatsink.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 heatsink

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Sri, I meant the temp was 55C, not 45C after the automatic power reduction
kicked in. 

73 Ron AC7AC

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 4:28 PM
To: 'Irma & Linas(LY2H)'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 heatsink

Fired up my "stock from the factory" KX2 into a dummy load at 10 watts, key
down, and it dropped to 5 watts after 4 minutes running from a 13.8 vdc
supply.  PA temp was about 45C. 

Hope that helps with your analysis.

73, Ron AC7AC

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Irma & Linas(LY2H)
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:33 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 heatsink

Hello folks,
I am looking for the practical , empyrical, real info based on the
individual measurements of the maximum Key-down time/temperature at the 10w
output of the KX2 before it drops down to 5 W issuing a message of "HI
TEMP". I would also like to learn about comparison of the KX2 stock heatsink
vs the Pro-audio Engineering KX22 product.

The reason is that I have decided to install the KX22 on my KX2 ( # 148*)
after a short dx-pedition to Aland islands in May. I was handling quite a
pile-up from the hotel room and after some 5 min of intensive CQ-ing and
answering on CW the PA temperature gone up to 59-60C degrees and the power
dropped down to 5 W and it was frustrating :) Today I have installed the PAE
KX22 heatsink. The key-down at 10 W into a dummy load in CW mode lasted for
around 3 minutes starting from the ambient temp. 27C. I don't think this is
very impressive baring in mind the Pro-audio's  claim of the 250% key-down
time improvement. Unfortunately, I was not so smart to test the key-down
time with the stock heatsink before I changed it to the new one, :) But I
remember Wayne was posting  here in the previous thread something abt 7 min
of key-down at 10W... So, with the 250% improvement with the KX22 it should
last... for some 24 min?! in my case, It doesn't sound very realistic ,
neither 7 min with the stock heatsink, nor 24 min with the Pro-Audio ( maybe
,bad thermal contact, not enough of grease?). That's why it would be very
interesting  to compare the real-life empyrical data of the other KX2
owners.

73! Linas LY2H
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[Elecraft] Newsletter

[rboutell]

Hello,
I enjoyed the (first edition?) Elecraft newsletter in email today.
I hope to see more issues in the future.

73, Russ  W9RB



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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 heatsink

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Fired up my "stock from the factory" KX2 into a dummy load at 10 watts, key
down, and it dropped to 5 watts after 4 minutes running from a 13.8 vdc
supply.  PA temp was about 45C. 

Hope that helps with your analysis.

73, Ron AC7AC

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Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:33 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 heatsink

Hello folks,
I am looking for the practical , empyrical, real info based on the
individual measurements of the maximum Key-down time/temperature at the 10w
output of the KX2 before it drops down to 5 W issuing a message of "HI
TEMP". I would also like to learn about comparison of the KX2 stock heatsink
vs the Pro-audio Engineering KX22 product.

The reason is that I have decided to install the KX22 on my KX2 ( # 148*)
after a short dx-pedition to Aland islands in May. I was handling quite a
pile-up from the hotel room and after some 5 min of intensive CQ-ing and
answering on CW the PA temperature gone up to 59-60C degrees and the power
dropped down to 5 W and it was frustrating :) Today I have installed the PAE
KX22 heatsink. The key-down at 10 W into a dummy load in CW mode lasted for
around 3 minutes starting from the ambient temp. 27C. I don't think this is
very impressive baring in mind the Pro-audio's  claim of the 250% key-down
time improvement. Unfortunately, I was not so smart to test the key-down
time with the stock heatsink before I changed it to the new one, :) But I
remember Wayne was posting  here in the previous thread something abt 7 min
of key-down at 10W... So, with the 250% improvement with the KX22 it should
last... for some 24 min?! in my case, It doesn't sound very realistic ,
neither 7 min with the stock heatsink, nor 24 min with the Pro-Audio ( maybe
,bad thermal contact, not enough of grease?). That's why it would be very
interesting  to compare the real-life empyrical data of the other KX2
owners.

73! Linas LY2H
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Re: [Elecraft] New KX2 beta firmware available with built-in CW/Data logging function

[John Oppenheimer]

Hi Wayne,

Testing the new logging feature in 2.77. A couple of suggestions:

When dumping the log using LG; can the dump stop after dumping the last
valid character, rather then a long string of "---" ?

Can the memory keyer operations be logged. Maybe just a M# or some other
character string which can be identified as a memory keyer with number
operation. Maybe an "R" for repeat.

John KN5L
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 heatsink

[Don Wilhelm]

Linas,

I know Howie (owner of Pro Audio Engineering) and consider him to be a 
personal friend.  I also know he is a meticulous engineer, and very 
likely has full data from his testing.

I suggest sending him a direct email request.

The results you posted - only 3 minutes keydown at 10 watts indicate to 
me that you may have a problem with your KX2.  That is even 
substantially less than the time Wayne posted resulting from his tests 
using the stock heatsink.


I would check to be certain the PA transistors are in full contact with 
the heatsink.


Sorry, but I do not have a KX2 to give you additional information. 
Perhaps someone else will volunteer.


73,
Don W3FPR


On 6/18/2017 5:32 PM, Irma & Linas(LY2H) wrote:

Hello folks,
I am looking for the practical , empyrical, real info based on the
individual measurements of the maximum Key-down time/temperature at the 10w
output of the KX2 before it drops down to 5 W issuing a message of "HI
TEMP". I would also like to learn about comparison of the KX2 stock
heatsink vs the Pro-audio Engineering KX22 product.


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[Elecraft] KX2 heatsink

[Irma & Linas(LY2H)]

Hello folks,
I am looking for the practical , empyrical, real info based on the
individual measurements of the maximum Key-down time/temperature at the 10w
output of the KX2 before it drops down to 5 W issuing a message of "HI
TEMP". I would also like to learn about comparison of the KX2 stock
heatsink vs the Pro-audio Engineering KX22 product.

The reason is that I have decided to install the KX22 on my KX2 ( # 148*)
after a short dx-pedition to Aland islands in May. I was handling quite a
pile-up from the hotel room and after some 5 min of intensive CQ-ing and
answering on CW the PA temperature gone up to 59-60C degrees and the power
dropped down to 5 W and it was frustrating :)
Today I have installed the PAE KX22 heatsink. The key-down at 10 W into a
dummy load in CW mode lasted for around 3 minutes starting from the ambient
temp. 27C. I don't think this is very impressive baring in mind the
Pro-audio's  claim of the 250% key-down time improvement. Unfortunately, I
was not so smart to test the key-down time with the stock heatsink before I
changed it to the new one, :) But I remember Wayne was posting  here in the
previous thread something abt 7 min of key-down at 10W... So, with the 250%
improvement with the KX22 it should  last... for some 24 min?! in my case,
It doesn't sound very realistic , neither 7 min with the stock heatsink,
nor 24 min with the Pro-Audio ( maybe ,bad thermal contact, not enough of
grease?). That's why it would be very interesting  to compare the real-life
empyrical data of the other KX2 owners.

73! Linas LY2H
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Re: [Elecraft] Wire size for the ground on the KX2

[Fred Jensen]

Good to know!  My K2 no longer has the KPA100, but I still have the BNC 
Tee on the antenna.  K3 does as well. You can calculate the required 
resistor size [watts] with a little arithmetic.  I've used anything from 
about 56K to 220K, whatever I find in the junkbox.  When us "old guys" 
fried the two ICOM's, the noise was just very mild "bacon frying" and 
barely noticeable on the baseline of the panadapter, certainly nothing 
to provoke alarm.


Important to note though that this is different protection for the input 
than a gas discharge tube or other lightning arrestor device.  They may 
protect against major voltage surges but are otherwise open circuits.  
And, enough of a surge that fires the device may still get through to 
cook the front end components.


73,

Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn

On 6/17/2017 5:18 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Skip,

Yes, I believe that later Elecraft products do have a static bleed or 
other static prevention across the antenna connections.


BUT for K2 owners, that is not the case.  The original KPA100 design 
had a 100uH RF Choke across the antenna terminals for just that 
purpose, but the latest KPA100 upgrade (to reduce the chance of an 
oscillation of about 8MHz when on 40 meters) the choke was removed 
because it coupled with the base K2 causing the oscillation.


For those K2 that I repair that have damaged wattmeter diodes in the 
KPA100, I have been installing a non-reactive 47k 2 watt resistor 
across the SO-239 jack, and also across the antenna jacks in the 
KAT100 (I put them on the bottom of the board, it is easier than 
soldering directly to the jacks).


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Re: [Elecraft] K3S no RF at CW - Solved

[kismar...@hotmail.com]

I sent few emails and talked to David at Elecraft twice last week. He suggested 
probing RF at 2nd TX Mixer, which confirmed 0 RF on CW and full RF power on SSB.
I found out that on KREF3 board the high insertion loss >45dB of the wide-band 
TX crystal filter activated only in CW MODE caused the 0 CW RF Power.  Probably 
some of the crystal leads inside the can detached during transport. I bypassed 
it temporarily by turning the relay on as it is in SSB mode with thin wire 
between pins 2 and 4 of the KREF3 module. The K3S power calibrated then as 
expected. The filter could be there for extra purity of CW signal, so I will 
have to exchange the module for a good one.
I would like to extend my gratitude also to W, G and OM hams who helped me 
solve this problem with their personal emails.
73,
Marian, WS9M

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Re: [Elecraft] K3+P3+Microkeyer II

[Josh]

I have no idea where you're getting this idea to interface as if it's a PW-1??

OM Power has supported Elecraft for many years. Why not review the OM Power 
manual's recommendation before making up an answer? 

73
Josh W6XU

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> On Jun 18, 2017, at 6:37 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:
> 
> 
> Don is off base when he talks about a system using a microHAM
> product.  Configure your station as shown in the application note
> "Using the Icom PW-1"
>  
> at http://www.microHAM-USA.com/support.html
> 
> The connection diagram for microKEYER II is here:
>  
> 
> You simply configure the amplifier as if it was connected to
> an Icom transceiver - that information is generally in the
> instruction manual 

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Re: [Elecraft] New KX3 firmware available that restores original AF gain level

[E T]

BTW, the KX2 with 2.77 behaves exactly the same way when scrolling past the N/A 
with the KXPA100 enabled.

  Thanks and 73,
  Erik Tkal  -  W1QED

On Jun 18, 2017, at 10:34 AM, E T  wrote:

Hi Wayne,

There is one major quirk with the new ATU.DATA menu item on the KX3.  When 
using the KXPA100 the menu item shows up with the label N/A and value "--".  
And then when you scroll up or down to the next menu item it takes up to a 
second to show the correct label.  Even when you are scrolling fast through the 
items and go past that one the N/A appears and persists as you scroll.  All the 
other transitions are immediate except this one.  Shouldn't the label still 
show as ATU.DATA and have the value show "--" or "N/A"?  E.g. like 2M/4M shows 
as "not inSt".

I'm going to update my KX2 to the beta that also has this and see if it also 
shows the same quirk.

  Thanks and 73,
  Erik Tkal  -  W1QED


On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:38 PM, Wayne Burdick > wrote:

Hi all,

Rev. 2.70 KX3 firmware unintentionally reduced the max AF gain setting for both 
speaker and headphones. (We improved the granularity of the AF GAIN control at 
the low end but didn’t get around to scaling the high end back up to the 
original level.)

If you were affected by this and would like to try the field test release (rev. 
2.76), please email me directly. 

This rev also includes the new “ATU DATA” menu entry, which gives you two full 
sets of per-band ATU data for use when running the KX3 “barefoot” (without the 
KXPA100/KXAT100). Typically one set would be used at home, the other in the 
field. If you do a lot of outings, this can save you the trouble of re-matching 
all of your antennas when you get home. Another use for this is with two 
different antennas for a given band.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] K3+P3+Microkeyer II

[Josh]

Patch the OM Power between P3 and microham box. TCVR goes to P3 and PC goes to 
microham. Then select Elecraft and baud rate from the menu. You should 
immediately see it following frequency on the display. 

OM Power echoes serial commands through and monitors the data. I don't have 
your model, but this is how they all work. 

Any problems you should contact OM Power support. Tibi is very good and will 
respond quickly. 

73,
Josh W6XU

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> On Jun 18, 2017, at 2:45 AM, Natale Borghetti  wrote:
> 
> I have installed K3+P3+Microkeyer II and as result I have all the com ports 
> busy.now I am setting up the OM-POwer 2000A+ amplifier and in order to 
> have the automatic tuning I have to supply the RTX frequency..how can I 
> do it ???
> 
> Some say to me...using the CI-V Icom interface of the Microkeyer II...but 
> what to set in the amplifier ??
> 
> Some say just install a Y cable at the output of RTX rs232
> 
> Just to give an idea of my wiring:
> 
> K3 rs232 go to P3 DB9 Labelled XCVR
> 
> Microkeyer rs232 go to P3 Labelled PC
> 
> 
> I am missing some thing ???
> 
> Hoping on some help and advice
> 
> 
> 73 and DX
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Natale Borghetti
> 
> I5NPH
> 
> nborghe...@alice.it
> 
> -- 
> Natale Borghetti
> 
> I5NPH
> 
> nborghe...@alice.it
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> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Packing Peanuts

[Jerry]

Time to put the "peanuts" to bed. Moderator - Please take note.


Best regards,

Jerry, W1IE

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Re: [Elecraft] Seeking input on KPA1500 station

[Kevin Stover, AC0H]

All,

I'd be willing to bet nobody in this country or Canada was tested over 
how to setup a LAN or Ethernet communications on their Ham Radio exams, 
and I'd bet there are a few guys on this board who could teach us all a 
thing or two about radio.


RS-232 just isn't that hard and one of the worst LAN fur balls I ever 
had to fix was caused by a couple of jabbering NIC's. I access all of 
our Routers and Switches with a laptop ,USB to RS-232 adapter and 
telnet. It's just not that hard.


The only thing you get when switching from RS-232 to Ethernet is bandwidth.


On 6/18/2017 6:56 AM, Michael Walker wrote:


A LAN based communications platform opens up the ham shack integration to
an entire new level.   I keep saying over and over that Ham Radio as a
hobby is a technical hobby where you are actually examined on your
technical understanding of how radio works, etc.  Yet, the overall average
of knowledge of a average ham seems to be going the wrong way where they
understand less just about how things work.






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SKCC #215
NAQCC #3441
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[Elecraft] Packing Peanuts

[Dauer, Edward]

Perhaps.  But since at least as early as 1990 when James Reason published his 
work on systems approaches to error prevention, numerous industries have 
adopted the view that trying to make people perfect and blaming them when they 
are not just doesn’t work.  The fields in which I have spent some time – 
aviation and healthcare in particular – have seen very favorable error 
reduction when the focus moved to improving the systems within which people 
work as much as, or more than, improving the people.  Shaming and blaming 
almost always backfires.  

So, to bring this to the topic here, if there’s a good substitute for 
electrostatically risky styro packing materials, and if the economics aren’t 
adverse, that part of the Elecraft shipping system could be improved.  The 
popular phrase may be “idiot-proofing,” but we have seen it work with highly 
intelligent and highly educated pilots and medical personnel, among others.  It 
is safest to assume that “stupid fault” just means statistically predictable 
human behavior.  Blaming makes us feel better, but empirically it tends not to 
move the error needle very much.

Ted, KN1CBR



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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2017 10:02:29 +0100
From: "G4GNX" 
To: "'Elecraft Reflector'" 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Packing Peanuts
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8";
reply-type=original

If people follow the Elecraft instructions to the letter, the static charge 
will be dissipated through the wrist strap.

If they don't follow the instructions, it's their own stupid fault!

73,

Alan. G4GNX

 

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Re: [Elecraft] New KX3 firmware available that restores original AF gain level

[E T]

Hi Wayne,

There is one major quirk with the new ATU.DATA menu item on the KX3.  When 
using the KXPA100 the menu item shows up with the label N/A and value "--".  
And then when you scroll up or down to the next menu item it takes up to a 
second to show the correct label.  Even when you are scrolling fast through the 
items and go past that one the N/A appears and persists as you scroll.  All the 
other transitions are immediate except this one.  Shouldn't the label still 
show as ATU.DATA and have the value show "--" or "N/A"?  E.g. like 2M/4M shows 
as "not inSt".

I'm going to update my KX2 to the beta that also has this and see if it also 
shows the same quirk.

  Thanks and 73,
  Erik Tkal  -  W1QED


On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:38 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:

Hi all,

Rev. 2.70 KX3 firmware unintentionally reduced the max AF gain setting for both 
speaker and headphones. (We improved the granularity of the AF GAIN control at 
the low end but didn’t get around to scaling the high end back up to the 
original level.)

If you were affected by this and would like to try the field test release (rev. 
2.76), please email me directly. 

This rev also includes the new “ATU DATA” menu entry, which gives you two full 
sets of per-band ATU data for use when running the KX3 “barefoot” (without the 
KXPA100/KXAT100). Typically one set would be used at home, the other in the 
field. If you do a lot of outings, this can save you the trouble of re-matching 
all of your antennas when you get home. Another use for this is with two 
different antennas for a given band.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] Packing Peanuts

[Kevin Stover, AC0H]

Ditto.
The prime directive. Follow the manufacturers instructions.

On 6/18/2017 4:02 AM, G4GNX wrote:
If people follow the Elecraft instructions to the letter, the static 
charge will be dissipated through the wrist strap.


If they don't follow the instructions, it's their own stupid fault!

73,

Alan. G4GNX

-Original Message- From: GaryK9GS
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 4:02 AM
To: Ian Kahn, KM4IK ; 'Kevin - K4VD' ; 'Elecraft Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Packing Peanuts

Frankly I'm shocked that Elecraft used Styrofoam packing peanuts.   I 
work in electronics manufacturing and my company has banned them from 
our building well over a decade ago.  All of our vendors are required to 
not use them.  They are a killer for electronic components.
It is precisely the static charge that causes them to stick to 
everything. What do you think happens to that static charge that is 
present on your body after handling this packing material when you open 
a static bag containing static sensitive parts?  It has to go somewhere.



73,
Gary K9GS

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[Elecraft] Elecraft KX2 Spinner Knob

[Tim McDonough N9PUZ]

Occasionally there is some interest in a VFO knob with a dimple for the 
Elecraft KX2. I have not tried making one of these yet but a friend sent 
me this link to a set of 3D Printer files on Thingverse for a pretty 
cool looking spinner know for the KX2. Could be a project for next week!




73,

Tim N9PUZ

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Re: [Elecraft] K3+P3+Microkeyer II

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

Don is off base when he talks about a system using a microHAM
product.  Configure your station as shown in the application note
"Using the Icom PW-1"
  
at http://www.microHAM-USA.com/support.html

The connection diagram for microKEYER II is here:
  

You simply configure the amplifier as if it was connected to
an Icom transceiver - that information is generally in the
instruction manual provided by the amplifier manufacturer.

Note: this information applies to *any* frequency agile amplifier
capable of serial control using Icom protocol.  The information
in the application note "Using the Icom PW-1"
  
also covers interfacing of BCD controlled amplifiers - like the
Yaesu FL-7000/Quadra, Elecraft KPA500 (and KPA1500), Ameritron
ALS-600/1300/1306, etc. to transceivers which lack BCD outputs
using microHAM Station Master.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 6/18/2017 6:53 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Natale,

Put the "Y" cable at the PC connector on the P3.
As far as how to set your amplifier, I leave that to others familiar 
with that amp to answer.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/18/2017 5:45 AM, Natale Borghetti wrote:
I have installed K3+P3+Microkeyer II and as result I have all the com 
ports busy.now I am setting up the OM-POwer 2000A+ amplifier and 
in order to have the automatic tuning I have to supply the RTX 
frequency..how can I do it ???



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Re: [Elecraft] Seeking input on KPA1500 station

[Michael Walker]

Dave et all

I still believe that Lan/IP is the way to go.  The way Flex is doing it
does not require it to be on your active network.  It works very well in a
peer to peer connection and it requires zero configuration.  Significantly
easier than configuring RS232.  The KPA500 software works well, but it have
to have some understanding of IP communication and RS232 configuration to
ensure it works.  I use it every day where the Server side of the KPA500
software (and the W2 for that matter) are running, but I then do an IP
connection to that software so I can see it from my main operating station.


1 Lan cable into the Flex radio and to the Amp at the same time.  But, if
you want it on your network, then you can do that as well.  It is really a
no brainer.

Personally, I have spent so much time debugging RS232 problems for people
and that really surprises me.   RS232 is not as plug and play as LAN is.
Today's people clearly understand it better.

Yes, I guess you can have AV issues, but that is more of the exception than
the norm.  Yes, if you mark all your NIC cards as Public, you are going to
have to white list everything, but there is no real requirement to have the
firewall turned on for machines behind your routers unless you are a belt
and suspenders person.  Certainly having it on on the Ham machines is not
wrong, but is another level of confusion.

A LAN based communications platform opens up the ham shack integration to
an entire new level.   I keep saying over and over that Ham Radio as a
hobby is a technical hobby where you are actually examined on your
technical understanding of how radio works, etc.  Yet, the overall average
of knowledge of a average ham seems to be going the wrong way where they
understand less just about how things work.

73, Mike va3mw








On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 7:02 AM, Dave B via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> Unless you have some of the popular AV/AM software packages running,
> that will actively prevent such things.
>
> Don't ask how I know, but we have LAN equipped kit at work, where sadly
> due to the AV/AM security software that we have no visibility into, it
> intercepts and blocks many LAN protocols and such, that it doesn't know
> about.
>
> We have to get IP addresses white listed for them to work, and even then
> there are issues.It's easier to use an old PC that has been stripped
> of all such nonsense, we just make sure it's never used on the office
> LAN itself these days.
>
> That, and if there is a LAN port, you usually need a way to control it's
> settings (IP address, Mask, default gateway etc) else you need to use
> RARP to find it's IP address from it's MAC address.   As per the popular
> (and very good) Lantronix product line.   But finding an AV/AM package
> that will not scream blue murder when it sees RARP being used is another
> stumbling block.
>
> Then, there are the potential security issues.  How many LAN equipped
> bits of kit, have had their IP stack fully vetted and tested to behave
> correctly under all situations, plus the products own firmware needs to
> be written with security in mind.
>
> There's enough chaos already from consumer IoT things, from light bulbs
> to TV/PVR boxes, we don't want similar nonsense in the shack, nor want
> Elecraft to become yet another IoT bot target.   (Google "mirai botnet"
> for an example.)
>
> RS232 works, & is difficult to remotely hijack for malicious purposes.
> USB connectivity works too (often emulating legacy com ports etc) and is
> easy to implement.   There is nothing "Wrong" with LAN ports for control
> and I/O etc, but in this day and age, it has to be done perfectly, or
> not at all.  And doing that is not trivial!
>
> Plus, any "PC software" will need to be cross platform too.  NOT just
> Windoze.   (A Java app perhaps?)   Or, fully disclose and publish the
> protocol used by the "device" so the rest of us can use it.
>
> Plus, will users who don't even understand simple serial port settings
> even get their heads around LAN address settings and such, plus some
> people will then want WiFi because they don't like wired LAN systems.
> Where do you stop?
>
> Oh, and EMC issues.  QRO RF and LAN systems often don't co-exist well,
> also LAN cables can, and often do leak QRM, so you'll be needing STP
> cables, not exactly low cost.  Again, I know this from first hand
> experience, at work and play!
>
> Why not use Optical fibre links, and simple RS232 like
> commands/responses.  RF proof, no radiated EMI, no ground loop issues,
> low cost, and 99% of all the needed code probably already exists.
> Ready made cables and I/O ports exist (Toslink among others, good enough
> for the golden ears brigade, so...)
>
> Just my take on it.
>
> 73.  Dave G0WBX.
>
>
> On 17/06/17 15:34, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Seeking input on KPA1500 station
> >   configurations
> >
> >
> > My 2 cents.
> >
> > Drop the RS232 line totally and have 

Re: [Elecraft] Remote Operating Time Sync

[Dave B via Elecraft]

Really?

Remote operating (as in remote from civilization) is a common usage for
a lot of Elecrafters, so it's highly relevant.

There are subjects way more off topic that run on this list, often for
days/weeks.  You don't moderate them it seems.

73

Dave G0WBX.


On 17/06/17 15:34, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Remote Operating Time Sync
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> Let's wind this down now and end the thread.
>
> Lots of good info, but its way exceeding the OT posting limit of 5-10.   
> PLEASE 
> self-moderate on threads as they get longer and take extended discussions 
> off-list to direct email after 5-10 posts to relieve email overload for 
> others.
>
> 73,
> Eric
> Mooderator etc.
> /elecraft.com/

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Re: [Elecraft] Remote Operating Time Sync

[Dave B via Elecraft]

Because some modes start a transmission on a UTC minute boundary, +- a
second(ish)

The RX software records for a fixed length of time, then examines the
recording to extract the data.

If a transmission starts late or early by too much, the data wont be
decoded.

73.

Dave G0WBX.


On 17/06/17 15:34, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
> Subject: [Elecraft]  Remote Operating Time Sync
> Message-ID: <34bc96f6211f96522da09cad75bfcc41.squir...@www11.qth.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
>
> Why is accurate time important with these modes?
>
> John KK9A

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Re: [Elecraft] Seeking input on KPA1500 station

[Dave B via Elecraft]

Unless you have some of the popular AV/AM software packages running,
that will actively prevent such things.

Don't ask how I know, but we have LAN equipped kit at work, where sadly
due to the AV/AM security software that we have no visibility into, it
intercepts and blocks many LAN protocols and such, that it doesn't know
about.

We have to get IP addresses white listed for them to work, and even then
there are issues.It's easier to use an old PC that has been stripped
of all such nonsense, we just make sure it's never used on the office
LAN itself these days.

That, and if there is a LAN port, you usually need a way to control it's
settings (IP address, Mask, default gateway etc) else you need to use
RARP to find it's IP address from it's MAC address.   As per the popular
(and very good) Lantronix product line.   But finding an AV/AM package
that will not scream blue murder when it sees RARP being used is another
stumbling block.

Then, there are the potential security issues.  How many LAN equipped
bits of kit, have had their IP stack fully vetted and tested to behave
correctly under all situations, plus the products own firmware needs to
be written with security in mind.

There's enough chaos already from consumer IoT things, from light bulbs
to TV/PVR boxes, we don't want similar nonsense in the shack, nor want
Elecraft to become yet another IoT bot target.   (Google "mirai botnet"
for an example.)

RS232 works, & is difficult to remotely hijack for malicious purposes.  
USB connectivity works too (often emulating legacy com ports etc) and is
easy to implement.   There is nothing "Wrong" with LAN ports for control
and I/O etc, but in this day and age, it has to be done perfectly, or
not at all.  And doing that is not trivial!

Plus, any "PC software" will need to be cross platform too.  NOT just
Windoze.   (A Java app perhaps?)   Or, fully disclose and publish the
protocol used by the "device" so the rest of us can use it.

Plus, will users who don't even understand simple serial port settings
even get their heads around LAN address settings and such, plus some
people will then want WiFi because they don't like wired LAN systems.  
Where do you stop?

Oh, and EMC issues.  QRO RF and LAN systems often don't co-exist well,
also LAN cables can, and often do leak QRM, so you'll be needing STP
cables, not exactly low cost.  Again, I know this from first hand
experience, at work and play!

Why not use Optical fibre links, and simple RS232 like
commands/responses.  RF proof, no radiated EMI, no ground loop issues,
low cost, and 99% of all the needed code probably already exists.  
Ready made cables and I/O ports exist (Toslink among others, good enough
for the golden ears brigade, so...)

Just my take on it.

73.  Dave G0WBX.


On 17/06/17 15:34, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Seeking input on KPA1500 station
>   configurations
>
>
> My 2 cents.
>
> Drop the RS232 line totally and have only an IP / Lan connection.  This
> will solve so many connectivity issues.  With a PC client software, it will
> just find the amplifier.
>
> This is what other Amp vendors are now doing and it is litterly plug and
> play.
>
> The next K-radio should also be LAN aware.
>
> Mike va3mw

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Re: [Elecraft] K-Pod software 1.09

[Don Wilhelm]

Art,

Yes, the K-Pod knob moves at 1/2 the rate of the K3 VFO knob.  It is 
intended to be that way.


The software does not change that relationship.  There were counts being 
lost between the K-Pod and the K3.  That was what the buffer fixed.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/17/2017 11:21 AM, Art via Elecraft wrote:

The description of the update states ":Changes encoder operation to allow the K-Pod 
to buffer encoder counts to the K3. This helps the K3 and K-Pod remain in sync."


However, that's not my experience. I have the VFO set to 200 CTS, so the K-Pod 
should match it after this update. However, the K-Pod only moves 100 
CTS-exactly half of what the main VFO moves. Tried going to 400 CTS on the main 
VFO. K-Pod then moves 200 CTS.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3+P3+Microkeyer II

[Don Wilhelm]

Natale,

Put the "Y" cable at the PC connector on the P3.
As far as how to set your amplifier, I leave that to others familiar 
with that amp to answer.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/18/2017 5:45 AM, Natale Borghetti wrote:
I have installed K3+P3+Microkeyer II and as result I have all the com 
ports busy.now I am setting up the OM-POwer 2000A+ amplifier and in 
order to have the automatic tuning I have to supply the RTX 
frequency..how can I do it ???



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[Elecraft] K3+P3+Microkeyer II

[Natale Borghetti]

I have installed K3+P3+Microkeyer II and as result I have all the com 
ports busy.now I am setting up the OM-POwer 2000A+ amplifier and in 
order to have the automatic tuning I have to supply the RTX 
frequency..how can I do it ???


Some say to me...using the CI-V Icom interface of the Microkeyer 
II...but what to set in the amplifier ??


Some say just install a Y cable at the output of RTX rs232

Just to give an idea of my wiring:

K3 rs232 go to P3 DB9 Labelled XCVR

Microkeyer rs232 go to P3 Labelled PC


I am missing some thing ???

Hoping on some help and advice


73 and DX



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I5NPH

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Re: [Elecraft] Packing Peanuts

[G4GNX]

If people follow the Elecraft instructions to the letter, the static charge 
will be dissipated through the wrist strap.


If they don't follow the instructions, it's their own stupid fault!

73,

Alan. G4GNX

-Original Message- 
From: GaryK9GS

Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 4:02 AM
To: Ian Kahn, KM4IK ; 'Kevin - K4VD' ; 'Elecraft Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Packing Peanuts

Frankly I'm shocked that Elecraft used Styrofoam packing peanuts.   I work 
in electronics manufacturing and my company has banned them from our 
building well over a decade ago.  All of our vendors are required to not use 
them.  They are a killer for electronic components.
It is precisely the static charge that causes them to stick to everything. 
What do you think happens to that static charge that is present on your body 
after handling this packing material when you open a static bag containing 
static sensitive parts?  It has to go somewhere.



73,
Gary K9GS

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