Re: [Elecraft] AUX port gender on KPA1500 different than KPA500

[Michael Eberle]

I would think both amplifiers will have the same connector on the 
production models since the order page lists the same cable (KPAK3AUX) 
for both of them.


Mike KI0HA


On 12/2/2017 23:17, James F. Boehner MD via Elecraft wrote:

The FCC OET External Pictures here:

https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits
equestTimeout=500=N_id=ihVuEIeRW6zTYKpm1zmQDA==&
fcc_id=UTR-KPA1500

External Photos show a male AUX connector.

Hopefully that is what the production model will have.

'73 de JIM N2ZZ


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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dan AE9K
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 11:26 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] AUX port gender on KPA1500 different than KPA500

The picture of back of the RF deck on the KPA1500 FAQ shows a female DE-15
for the AUX port.  The KPA500 has a male DE-15 AUX port.  Is the port in the
picture correct or just a pre-production mock-up with the wrong gender?

I ask because I'm inserting a switch box and am making the associated cables
to be able to flip back and forth between the two amps (when the KPA1500
arrives).

Dan
AE9K




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 PRE function question

[Edward R Cole]

Doug,

I checked 20m about 5pm and noted S3 noise but also that I had the 
PRE turned on.  With preamp off 20m noise is running S2.  But both 
40m and 80m see S6 noise on my inverted-V hung on the tower under the 
triband yagi.  This high for usual on these bands for here (yes, PRE is off).


I looked up your location which is in the mountains near Steamboat in 
northern CO.  2000 pop/480 sq miles = 4 people per sq-mi which is way 
less density from where I live.  4,200 in a 16x 10 mile strip along 
the western shore of the Kenai Peninsula.  Density = 4200/160 = 26 
people per sq-mi.  But that is not accurate for my nearby density 
around a lake with average property size of 2-3 acres and 2.5 persons 
per property.  Probably 200-300 within a mile.  All have wireless 
devices and consumer electronics galore.  Many are line of sight 
across the lake.  I do have buired utilities in the near 1/4 mile but 
overhead wired beyond that.  Internet is phone line DSL and TV by satellite.


Also we have a refinery, LNG plant, and local gas-trubine generation 
station 2-miles to the west.  12 miles south is a city with 7500 
people in typical city density and many stores and businesses (lots 
of digital cash registers).  Another city of 7500 lies another 11 
miles south to the first so in 30-mile radius we have a pop of about 30,000.


I would guess that is not at all comparable to where you live.

Alaska has ground conductivity problems with frozen soil which really 
affects electrical noise.  But if you get out in roadless bush its as 
quiet at you make your home electronics (and generator).


73, Ed - KL7UW



Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2017 08:05:16 -0700
From: Doug Person 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 PRE function question
Message-ID: <27b87eb6-4c04-a59b-b3d7-03cb15f67...@k0dxv.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

That seems odd. I live in a community of about 2000 spread over an area
of 450 square miles. There is power and phone service to every house.
Internet is either satellite or over the cellular network. My noise
level on 20 meters is less than S1 and usually doesn't even move the
meter. 80 and 40 are typical of atmospheric conditions. Even on my
full-size 40 meter vertical the noise level is typically S1 to S2.

You must just have some really bad luck. I think I live in a typical
rural community where the only real noise generator is a cranky electric
fence.

Doug -- K0DXV


73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] AUX port gender on KPA1500 different than KPA500

[Dan AE9K]

Thanks Jim.  I wasn't aware the FCC acceptance info was available.  

Unrelated but interesting is that the KPA1500 FAQ puts the typical drive
power at 50W but the average in the FCC tests was 66W.  17m required a
whopping 81W.



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Re: [Elecraft] 10 meter RTTY contest starts at 0000Z

[Dave Hachadorian]

The P3 with external monitor sure does a good job of displaying 
meteor pings!  That's about all I am seeing on 10.  Back to the 
160 Contest.



Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ




-Original Message- 
From: Wayne Burdick

Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 5:33 PM
To: k...@roadrunner.com
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 10 meter RTTY contest starts at Z

Looks like 10 m is acting like 6 meters today -- all the activity 
is sporadic-E, an all in the eastern half of the U.S.


Wayne



On Dec 2, 2017, at 4:31 PM,  
 wrote:


I have a blast with my KX3 during RTTY contests.  I sometimes 
use the QRP Works Ham Central Terminal with my rig, but about 
two months ago I simply ran the rig sans terminal using nothing 
more than message memories and a paddle during a contest.  I 
easily worked about 24 DX countries through a Super Antennas 
YP-3 yagi up about 20' in the back yard with little effort.


Will have to give the 10M contest a try, thanks Wayne.

72

Howard Kraus, K2UD
 Wayne Burdick  wrote:
An RTTY contests is a great time to try your Elecraft rig’s 
built-in RTTY capability, either using a keyer paddle or the 
Terminal window in the Utility application. (Applies to K3, 
K3S, KX2, KX3.)


The 10 meter RTTY contests starts soon (Z), so take a 
listen if you get a chance. You can use the CW/data message 
memories to store your callsign and exchange.


dxmaps.com shows some activity on the band today, a good sign. 
I’ve also seen a few signals popping up in the RTTY segment. 
Warm-up exercises, no doubt.


For rules and other info, see:

 http://www.rttycontesting.com/ten-meter-rtty-contest/

73,
Wayne
N6KR



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Re: [Elecraft] AUX port gender on KPA1500 different than KPA500

[James F. Boehner MD via Elecraft]

The FCC OET External Pictures here: 

https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits
equestTimeout=500=N_id=ihVuEIeRW6zTYKpm1zmQDA==&
fcc_id=UTR-KPA1500 

External Photos show a male AUX connector.

Hopefully that is what the production model will have.

'73 de JIM N2ZZ


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dan AE9K
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 11:26 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] AUX port gender on KPA1500 different than KPA500

The picture of back of the RF deck on the KPA1500 FAQ shows a female DE-15
for the AUX port.  The KPA500 has a male DE-15 AUX port.  Is the port in the
picture correct or just a pre-production mock-up with the wrong gender?  

I ask because I'm inserting a switch box and am making the associated cables
to be able to flip back and forth between the two amps (when the KPA1500
arrives).

Dan
AE9K




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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Announcement

[kevinr]

Good Evening,

   Another parcel of cloud pushes its way through a gap in the nearby 
mountains. It slides, tumbles its way down to a low area. Gradually this 
space fills with low layer of mist. As it fills the fog becomes more 
dense. I start seeing waves as an aliquot of cloud hits the ‘lake’ 
forming in the valley. The gap is about two miles away; the wave caused 
by the tumbling cloud meeting the surface takes about three minutes to 
get to my location. It is still clear and sunny up here but that is 
changing. A misty layer is forming around me. When the wave from the 
last dollop of cold cloud hits my side of the valley the ‘breakers’ get 
to near my feet. Six minutes per sine wave works out to ~0.0028 
Hz.  There and back again.


    The sun is currently blank though the solar wind is still causing 
aurora. We just missed a CME and are due for another chance on Monday. 
So we will use the ions given us and see how far that takes us.



Please join us tomorrow on:

   14050 kHz at 2300z Sunday (3 PM PST Sunday)
    7045 kHz at 0100z Monday (5 PM PST Sunday)

    73,
    Kevin. KD5ONS

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[Elecraft] AUX port gender on KPA1500 different than KPA500

[Dan AE9K]

The picture of back of the RF deck on the KPA1500 FAQ shows a female DE-15
for the AUX port.  The KPA500 has a male DE-15 AUX port.  Is the port in the
picture correct or just a pre-production mock-up with the wrong gender?  

I ask because I'm inserting a switch box and am making the associated cables
to be able to flip back and forth between the two amps (when the KPA1500
arrives).

Dan
AE9K




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Re: [Elecraft] KX3/KXPA100 Power Output Difference

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

And "hamfest" Bird slugs have been found to notoriously be in error.  
{if they work at all}   And remember, the Bird meter is a voltage 
sensing instrument and any impedance deviation from the calibrated 
value, normally 50 ohms, will introduce an error in the reading.


73

Bob, K4TAX



On 12/2/2017 9:01 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

A 20% error is not at all unusual in commercial wattmeters either. The famous 
"Bird" units are only accurate to 5% of full scale. That means that if you are 
reading 1/2 scale the accuracy is only 10% and only 20% as 1/4 scale. Since Hams tend not 
to buy all the slugs needed to ensure their meters read near full scale for every 
measurement, and do not have the slugs professionally calibrated at regular intervals (1 
year or so), 20% is a pretty optimistic accuracy at almost every power level.

73, Ron AC7AC

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 8:24 PM
To: Jim Ruff; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3/KXPA100 Power Output Difference

Jim,

Amateur wattmeters are notoriously "famous" for their inaccuracies.
Errors of up to 20% are not unusual, and in many cases it depends on the band 
because the voltage produced by the measurement diodes are frequency dependent.

So bottom line, don't worry about the 10 watt differential.  You are like the 
man with two watches who does not really know what time it is!

On the KX3 Yahoo Group question, I receive individual emails (not the digest), but 
something has happened, and I cannot post to any of the Yahoo groups that I am subscribed 
to for the past 2 weeks.  I think Yahoo has "gone to the dogs".

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/1/2017 9:33 PM, Jim Ruff via Elecraft wrote:

I using a KX3/KXPA100 and I'm noticing that when I'm in TX the RF
meter on the rig matches the set power of the rig, but on the KXP100 meter, it 
shows 10 or more watts less output.  Some examples:Rig   Amp50w  40w60w  50w70w 
 60w80w  70w Here is what i've checked so far.  The Powerwerx PS is showing 
13.8v when receiving and dips to 12.9v when in TX, so I don't believe I have a 
voltage problem.  I've moved the rig's power connection  back and forth from 
the front of the Powerwerx  PS to the top power pole connection on the back of 
the KXPA100 with no change.I've also re-tuned all bands from 10-40 meters with 
my LDG100 remote tuner and the highest SWR I receive is 1.4:1 on 30 and 40 
meters.  All of the other bands are 1:1 to 1.2:1, so I don't think I'm getting 
any power foldback because of high SWR..  Does anyone have any thoughts on 
what's causing this differential, and if two power output meters are never 
going to be in sync, which meter is the most accurate?
Also, as an aside. Is there something wrong with the KX3 group from
Yahoo? I haven't recieved a digest in days and when I try to get into
the group I get an error message Thanks,Jim W7JHR
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[Elecraft] For Sale: 4-band K1 (needs work)

[Ken Alexander]

=== Full disclosure:  This radio needs work to get it going. ===  
I got it in a trade with another ham a few years ago.  I bought a 4-band filter 
board for it, and after staring intently at the parts layout diagram I STILL 
installed the four trimmer capacitors backwards!  It does work with them 
installed this way.  I was told the difference is that the metal screw heads 
you adjust are grounded when they are installed correctly.  Otherwise one could 
probably use a plastic adjustment tool.  You can also remove them and install 
them correctly.  
As I recall, the alignment procedures went fine except for 15m, where there was 
no output.  At this point I put it aside and it has been collecting dust.
The ham I got it from thought it would look better with wooden side panels.  
They're nicely finished and about 1/8" thick.  They don't look awful, but I 
wouldn't have done it.  Not sure if they are glued to the existing aluminum 
side panels or if the screws hold them.  The radio is cosmetically good in 
every other respect.
Serial Number 00863
U.S. $300.  I will pay for shipping to addresses in Canada or CONUS.
73 and thanks for your interest,
Ken Alexander
VE3HLS
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3/KXPA100 Power Output Difference

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

A 20% error is not at all unusual in commercial wattmeters either. The famous 
"Bird" units are only accurate to 5% of full scale. That means that if you are 
reading 1/2 scale the accuracy is only 10% and only 20% as 1/4 scale. Since 
Hams tend not to buy all the slugs needed to ensure their meters read near full 
scale for every measurement, and do not have the slugs professionally 
calibrated at regular intervals (1 year or so), 20% is a pretty optimistic 
accuracy at almost every power level. 

73, Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 8:24 PM
To: Jim Ruff; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3/KXPA100 Power Output Difference

Jim,

Amateur wattmeters are notoriously "famous" for their inaccuracies. 
Errors of up to 20% are not unusual, and in many cases it depends on the band 
because the voltage produced by the measurement diodes are frequency dependent.

So bottom line, don't worry about the 10 watt differential.  You are like the 
man with two watches who does not really know what time it is!

On the KX3 Yahoo Group question, I receive individual emails (not the digest), 
but something has happened, and I cannot post to any of the Yahoo groups that I 
am subscribed to for the past 2 weeks.  I think Yahoo has "gone to the dogs".

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/1/2017 9:33 PM, Jim Ruff via Elecraft wrote:
> I using a KX3/KXPA100 and I'm noticing that when I'm in TX the RF 
> meter on the rig matches the set power of the rig, but on the KXP100 meter, 
> it shows 10 or more watts less output.  Some examples:Rig   Amp50w  40w60w  
> 50w70w  60w80w  70w Here is what i've checked so far.  The Powerwerx PS is 
> showing 13.8v when receiving and dips to 12.9v when in TX, so I don't believe 
> I have a voltage problem.  I've moved the rig's power connection  back and 
> forth from the front of the Powerwerx  PS to the top power pole connection on 
> the back of the KXPA100 with no change.I've also re-tuned all bands from 
> 10-40 meters with my LDG100 remote tuner and the highest SWR I receive is 
> 1.4:1 on 30 and 40 meters.  All of the other bands are 1:1 to 1.2:1, so I 
> don't think I'm getting any power foldback because of high SWR..  Does anyone 
> have any thoughts on what's causing this differential, and if two power 
> output meters are never going to be in sync, which meter is the most accurate?
> Also, as an aside. Is there something wrong with the KX3 group from 
> Yahoo? I haven't recieved a digest in days and when I try to get into 
> the group I get an error message Thanks,Jim W7JHR 
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[Elecraft] K3s New Builder

[Dauer, Edward]

Tom –

I would add only one suggestion to all of the good advice that’s been posted 
here.  That is, to read everything before doing anything.  I have found it true 
in pretty much every complex thing I’ve ever done, both professionally and at 
the radio workbench – knowing how one piece of a larger project fits into the 
whole makes it easier to do each piece correctly.  I think anyone who has ever 
installed a SubRX in a K3 would understand exquisitely what I mean.

Ted, KN1CBR


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tom Norris
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 12:29 PM
To: Mark Goldberg
Cc: Elecraft Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S New Builder (Tom NB5Q)

Thank you all for the advice. I'm looking forward to beginning and I plan 
to pace myself and since I'm the caregiver for my wife I will have to ration 
things out. I'm sure I will be back, all of the posts are very interesting and 
seem to always generate a lot of interest and knowledgable answers.

73,

Tom
NB5Q

 


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[Elecraft] 160 meter contest also going on -- LOTS of activity

[Wayne Burdick]

The ARRL 160 m contest is in full swing. See:

   http://www.arrl.org/160-meter

Sounds like Field Day on the band right now, at least in the CW segment. Give 
it a listen.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] 10 meter RTTY contest starts at 0000Z

[Wayne Burdick]

Looks like 10 m is acting like 6 meters today -- all the activity is 
sporadic-E, an all in the eastern half of the U.S.

Wayne



> On Dec 2, 2017, at 4:31 PM,   wrote:
> 
> I have a blast with my KX3 during RTTY contests.  I sometimes use the QRP 
> Works Ham Central Terminal with my rig, but about two months ago I simply ran 
> the rig sans terminal using nothing more than message memories and a paddle 
> during a contest.  I easily worked about 24 DX countries through a Super 
> Antennas YP-3 yagi up about 20' in the back yard with little effort.
> 
> Will have to give the 10M contest a try, thanks Wayne.
> 
> 72
> 
> Howard Kraus, K2UD
>  Wayne Burdick  wrote: 
>> An RTTY contests is a great time to try your Elecraft rig’s built-in RTTY 
>> capability, either using a keyer paddle or the Terminal window in the 
>> Utility application. (Applies to K3, K3S, KX2, KX3.)
> 
> The 10 meter RTTY contests starts soon (Z), so take a listen if you get a 
> chance. You can use the CW/data message memories to store your callsign and 
> exchange.
> 
> dxmaps.com shows some activity on the band today, a good sign. I’ve also seen 
> a few signals popping up in the RTTY segment. Warm-up exercises, no doubt.
> 
> For rules and other info, see:
> 
>  http://www.rttycontesting.com/ten-meter-rtty-contest/
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] 10 meter RTTY contest starts at 0000Z

[k2ud]

I have a blast with my KX3 during RTTY contests.  I sometimes use the QRP Works 
Ham Central Terminal with my rig, but about two months ago I simply ran the rig 
sans terminal using nothing more than message memories and a paddle during a 
contest.  I easily worked about 24 DX countries through a Super Antennas YP-3 
yagi up about 20' in the back yard with little effort.

Will have to give the 10M contest a try, thanks Wayne.

72

Howard Kraus, K2UD
 Wayne Burdick  wrote: 
> An RTTY contests is a great time to try your Elecraft rig’s built-in RTTY 
> capability, either using a keyer paddle or the Terminal window in the Utility 
> application. (Applies to K3, K3S, KX2, KX3.)

The 10 meter RTTY contests starts soon (Z), so take a listen if you get a 
chance. You can use the CW/data message memories to store your callsign and 
exchange.

dxmaps.com shows some activity on the band today, a good sign. I’ve also seen a 
few signals popping up in the RTTY segment. Warm-up exercises, no doubt.

For rules and other info, see:

  http://www.rttycontesting.com/ten-meter-rtty-contest/

73,
Wayne
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[Elecraft] 10 meter RTTY contest starts at 0000Z

[Wayne Burdick]

An RTTY contests is a great time to try your Elecraft rig’s built-in RTTY 
capability, either using a keyer paddle or the Terminal window in the Utility 
application. (Applies to K3, K3S, KX2, KX3.)

The 10 meter RTTY contests starts soon (Z), so take a listen if you get a 
chance. You can use the CW/data message memories to store your callsign and 
exchange.

dxmaps.com shows some activity on the band today, a good sign. I’ve also seen a 
few signals popping up in the RTTY segment. Warm-up exercises, no doubt.

For rules and other info, see:

  http://www.rttycontesting.com/ten-meter-rtty-contest/

73,
Wayne
N6KR



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Re: [Elecraft] K3S New Builder (Tom NB5Q)

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

A key time and mistake-saver is to be sure to check off each step in the 
assembly procedure as you complete it. Double check to be sure it was done as 
stated before checking it off. That is why Wayne has mandated check boxes on 
all significant steps, so you can be sure where you left off after a break AND 
to highlight any missed step(s). 

73, Ron AC7AC

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tom Norris
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 12:29 PM
To: Mark Goldberg
Cc: Elecraft Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S New Builder (Tom NB5Q)

Thank you all for the advice. I'm looking forward to beginning and I plan to 
pace myself and since I'm the caregiver for my wife I will have to ration 
things out. I'm sure I will be back, all of the posts are very interesting and 
seem to always generate a lot of interest and knowledgable answers.

73,

Tom
NB5Q


On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 7:27 AM, Mark Goldberg 
wrote:

> I agree with all this advice. I can tell you that any questions you 
> have will be answered by the fine people on the Elecraft forums, and 
> if they can't, Elecraft provides exceptional help. I have built three 
> Elecraft kits and got help from one of the designers on one of the 
> forums, on a weekend, when I had an issue. You will not get help like that 
> from anyone else.
>
> One thing I do for screws and small parts that are NOT ESD sensitive 
> is to count, measure and sort them all out into labeled bins of 
> something like a bead organizer first. Then you know you have what you 
> need ahead of time. I use the ones with individual round, screw top 
> containers and put little post it note labels on each. Work on a clean 
> ESD protected surface and keep the NON ESD parts bins away.
>
> Best of luck and there is great satisfaction in building what you use.
>
> 73,
>
> Mark
> W7MLG
>
> On Dec 2, 2017 5:45 AM, "John Stengrevics" 
> wrote:
>
>> HI Tom,
>>
>> I, like you, chose to get back into ham radio after many years by 
>> building the K3S.
>>
>> Don suggestions are right on the money.  Follow the instructions to 
>> the letter.
>>
>> I made 3 small errors, all found with the help of Elecraft tech 
>> support, and I think with Don’s help as well.  I attribute the errors 
>> to trying to work too late into the night.  So, don’t try to overdo and 
>> don’t rush it.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> John
>> WA1EAZ
>>
>> > On Dec 1, 2017, at 11:11 PM, Tom Norris  wrote:
>> >
>> > My first post, new builder, old man (74 years young!). I've been
>> inactive
>> > for some time but looking forward to getting back on CW with the 
>> > new
>> K3S,
>> > P3 kits. I'm sure I will be back here for your valued and 
>> > experienced assistance during the build and setup. I have searched 
>> > for and read a
>> lot
>> > of the posts on the list pertaining to assembling Elecraft kits. 
>> > Thank
>> you
>> > and I hope to use a lot of the information in those posts. If you 
>> > have
>> any
>> > up front advice in the assembly or setup of the following parts, I 
>> > hope
>> you
>> > will share it with me.
>> >
>> > K3S 100W Xcvr. Kit ; P3-K Panadapter Kit; External Speaker; The 
>> > Elecraft K3S and P3 by Fred Cady; K3S ATU; K3S Gen. Cov. RX Module; 
>> > KFL3C-400;
>> 2.8
>> > for 2.7 kHz swap; KFL3B-FM; P3 Video/FFT Adapt.; P3 TX Monitor 
>> > Adapt;
>> 1.8-54
>> > MHz 200W; incl. P3TXMON
>> >
>> > Thanks a lot,
>> > Tom Norris NB5Q New Mexico
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Re: [Elecraft] 2 X K3S and N1MM+ SO2R RTTY

[Don Wilhelm]

Bill,

Do you have anything plugged into the LINE IN jack on the K3S?  That 
overrides the output of the CODEC.


Have you adjusted the audio level to produce 4 bars with the 5th bar 
flashing on the ALC meter?  Yes, that is unique with Elecraft gear.


If you are not familiar with that requirement, refer to the article on 
my website www.w3fpr.com.  Scroll down to the bottom of the left column 
and click on the link to get to the page.  My article generalizes on the 
DATA mode application being used while explaining why the Elecraft gear 
is different than other transceivers.  Elecraft support has additional 
information that is more specific for several data mode applications 
should you find you need that.


If you are setting transmit via command, that should be the only method 
enabled - turn off PTT via any other means and turn off VOX.  Using two 
methods together may cause the K3/K3S to hang in transmit (because the 
two methods "fight" each other.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/2/2017 5:11 PM, Bill Straw via Elecraft wrote:

Sorry for the space. The problem had to do with enabling the
2nd CODEC in the audio panel. Now both transmitters are being
keyed, but only with PTT enabled. It still doesn't work with VOX
and I can't here the sent audio in the monitor. And the radios
sometimes hang in transmit. Hmmm...


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[Elecraft] 2 X K3S and N1MM+ SO2R RTTY

[Bill Straw via Elecraft]

Sorry for the space. The problem had to do with enabling the
2nd CODEC in the audio panel. Now both transmitters are being 
keyed, but only with PTT enabled. It still doesn't work with VOX
and I can't here the sent audio in the monitor. And the radios
sometimes hang in transmit. Hmmm...

Bill KO7SS in AZ
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[Sid Leben]

CrankIr antenna & Begali key Sold.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S New Builder (Tom NB5Q)

[Tom Norris]

Thank you all for the advice. I'm looking forward to beginning and I plan
to pace myself and since I'm the caregiver for my wife I will have to
ration things out. I'm sure I will be back, all of the posts are very
interesting and seem to always generate a lot of interest and knowledgable
answers.

73,

Tom
NB5Q


On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 7:27 AM, Mark Goldberg 
wrote:

> I agree with all this advice. I can tell you that any questions you have
> will be answered by the fine people on the Elecraft forums, and if they
> can't, Elecraft provides exceptional help. I have built three Elecraft kits
> and got help from one of the designers on one of the forums, on a weekend,
> when I had an issue. You will not get help like that from anyone else.
>
> One thing I do for screws and small parts that are NOT ESD sensitive is to
> count, measure and sort them all out into labeled bins of something like a
> bead organizer first. Then you know you have what you need ahead of time. I
> use the ones with individual round, screw top containers and put little
> post it note labels on each. Work on a clean ESD protected surface and keep
> the NON ESD parts bins away.
>
> Best of luck and there is great satisfaction in building what you use.
>
> 73,
>
> Mark
> W7MLG
>
> On Dec 2, 2017 5:45 AM, "John Stengrevics" 
> wrote:
>
>> HI Tom,
>>
>> I, like you, chose to get back into ham radio after many years by
>> building the K3S.
>>
>> Don suggestions are right on the money.  Follow the instructions to the
>> letter.
>>
>> I made 3 small errors, all found with the help of Elecraft tech support,
>> and I think with Don’s help as well.  I attribute the errors to trying to
>> work too late into the night.  So, don’t try to overdo and don’t rush it.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> John
>> WA1EAZ
>>
>> > On Dec 1, 2017, at 11:11 PM, Tom Norris  wrote:
>> >
>> > My first post, new builder, old man (74 years young!). I've been
>> inactive
>> > for some time but looking forward to getting back on CW with the new
>> K3S,
>> > P3 kits. I'm sure I will be back here for your valued and experienced
>> > assistance during the build and setup. I have searched for and read a
>> lot
>> > of the posts on the list pertaining to assembling Elecraft kits. Thank
>> you
>> > and I hope to use a lot of the information in those posts. If you have
>> any
>> > up front advice in the assembly or setup of the following parts, I hope
>> you
>> > will share it with me.
>> >
>> > K3S 100W Xcvr. Kit ; P3-K Panadapter Kit; External Speaker; The Elecraft
>> > K3S and P3 by Fred Cady; K3S ATU; K3S Gen. Cov. RX Module; KFL3C-400;
>> 2.8
>> > for 2.7 kHz swap; KFL3B-FM; P3 Video/FFT Adapt.; P3 TX Monitor Adapt;
>> 1.8-54
>> > MHz 200W; incl. P3TXMON
>> >
>> > Thanks a lot,
>> > Tom Norris NB5Q New Mexico
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[Elecraft] 2 X K3S and N1MM+ SO2R RTTY

[Bill Straw via Elecraft]

I just got my second K3S and can't get it going SO2R with N1MM+ RTTY

The first K3S runs AFSK through the USB. VOX is used. DTR is used for CW
keying. PTT for DIGI modes is not enabled. Has always worked great. (I did
read the DTR keying won't work in SO2R, but my SO2R will be RTTY only)

I got the new K3S yesterday. Set it up via another USB port. 2nd copy of
MMTTY made. Everything for 2nd K3S set up exactly as for the 1st.

SO2R windows look good. Both radios tracking fine. Digital windows for
both radios decoding fine. Pressing the CQ buttons generate the message
in the appropriate window. There just is no audio coming from the 
soundcard to trip the VOX and neither radio keys.

So I go back to N1MM config tab, and set PTT via radio command for both
radios. Turn off VOX. Pressing a message button now keys the appropiate
radio, and the message is appearing in the text box, but there is no
audio heard and no power output.

???

73, Bill KO7SS in AZ
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[Elecraft] KX2

[Sid Leben]

My KX2 is Sold.
Thank you for your responses.

Sid
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[Elecraft] For Sale

[Sid Leben]

My backyard operating operating days are over due to health issues.  Some of my 
portable stuff listed is for sale.
Please contact me off line if any interest: s...@leben.com

  *   KX2 with options
  *   Begali Adventure Dual Paddle, with mounts
  *   CrankIR (Steppir), portable Vertical w/adjustable radial, Tripod, etc.
  *   K-Board, QRP Works, & (2) ipazzport mini keyboards
  *   Emtech ZM-2 Tuner

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 PRE function question

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

Got one of those "cranky electric fence" across the highway.  The Noise 
Blanker does a wonderful job of making it go away and not punch holes in 
the signal at the same time.   Thanks Elecraft!


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 12/2/2017 9:05 AM, Doug Person wrote:
That seems odd. I live in a community of about 2000 spread over an 
area of 450 square miles. There is power and phone service to every 
house. Internet is either satellite or over the cellular network. My 
noise level on 20 meters is less than S1 and usually doesn't even move 
the meter. 80 and 40 are typical of atmospheric conditions. Even on my 
full-size 40 meter vertical the noise level is typically S1 to S2.


You must just have some really bad luck. I think I live in a typical 
rural community where the only real noise generator is a cranky 
electric fence.


Doug -- K0DXV

On 12/1/17 6:49 PM, Edward R Cole wrote:

Wayne and all:

A graphic example is my experience when I first arrived in Alaska to 
live in a small town of 75 people at end of 16-mile dead-end gravel 
road surrounded by the Chugach NF.  I rented a one-room cabin 14x16 
foot with a wood stove- that's all.  No electricity, no telephone, no 
running water, no toilet - just an outhouse. Nearest electric power 
was 3-miles away.  Hooking up my battery operted TS-180S to a 80m 
dipole the s-meter did not budge off zero.  I could hear out to 
800-1000 mile everynight on 80m.  All HF bands were quiet.


Ten years later the electric utility extended lines to my property 
and I had both power and phone service.  Noise went up to S3. 
Population of the town grew to 150 and the main road was paved.


Now I live about 100 miles west of there in a community of 4,000+ 12 
miles from a small city of 7,500.  80m runs S5 on a quiet day; 6m is 
also S5 noise floor.


So good luck finding that quiet place (beyond civilization)!  I live 
on the Kenai Peninsula of Alaska with area about the same as Ireland 
and pop of 55,000.  Everyone has wireless junk so "there goes the 
neighborhood".


I still can hear the occasional ATV, dirt bike or  snowmachine pass 
by the house.


Next move is the backside of the Moon!  LOL
73, Ed - KL7UW

Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 10:51:41 -0800
From: Wayne Burdick 
To: Randy Farmer 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 PRE function question
Message-ID: <1a077cc6-4253-40a4-86bc-cd8ad1fb7...@elecraft.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

This is why about half of our product line is intended for use 
outdoors, hopefully far from most noise sources. I?m always amazed to 
see noise drop from S6 to S0 on 20 meters, for example, when I hike 
up the hill at a park that?s a quarter mile from civilization.


If you do it often enough, you can cancel your gym membership :)

Wayne
N6KR


73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 PRE function question

[Doug Person]

That seems odd. I live in a community of about 2000 spread over an area 
of 450 square miles. There is power and phone service to every house. 
Internet is either satellite or over the cellular network. My noise 
level on 20 meters is less than S1 and usually doesn't even move the 
meter. 80 and 40 are typical of atmospheric conditions. Even on my 
full-size 40 meter vertical the noise level is typically S1 to S2.


You must just have some really bad luck. I think I live in a typical 
rural community where the only real noise generator is a cranky electric 
fence.


Doug -- K0DXV

On 12/1/17 6:49 PM, Edward R Cole wrote:

Wayne and all:

A graphic example is my experience when I first arrived in Alaska to 
live in a small town of 75 people at end of 16-mile dead-end gravel 
road surrounded by the Chugach NF.  I rented a one-room cabin 14x16 
foot with a wood stove- that's all.  No electricity, no telephone, no 
running water, no toilet - just an outhouse. Nearest electric power 
was 3-miles away.  Hooking up my battery operted TS-180S to a 80m 
dipole the s-meter did not budge off zero.  I could hear out to 
800-1000 mile everynight on 80m.  All HF bands were quiet.


Ten years later the electric utility extended lines to my property and 
I had both power and phone service.  Noise went up to S3. Population 
of the town grew to 150 and the main road was paved.


Now I live about 100 miles west of there in a community of 4,000+ 12 
miles from a small city of 7,500.  80m runs S5 on a quiet day; 6m is 
also S5 noise floor.


So good luck finding that quiet place (beyond civilization)!  I live 
on the Kenai Peninsula of Alaska with area about the same as Ireland 
and pop of 55,000.  Everyone has wireless junk so "there goes the 
neighborhood".


I still can hear the occasional ATV, dirt bike or  snowmachine pass by 
the house.


Next move is the backside of the Moon!  LOL
73, Ed - KL7UW

Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 10:51:41 -0800
From: Wayne Burdick 
To: Randy Farmer 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 PRE function question
Message-ID: <1a077cc6-4253-40a4-86bc-cd8ad1fb7...@elecraft.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

This is why about half of our product line is intended for use 
outdoors, hopefully far from most noise sources. I?m always amazed to 
see noise drop from S6 to S0 on 20 meters, for example, when I hike up 
the hill at a park that?s a quarter mile from civilization.


If you do it often enough, you can cancel your gym membership :)

Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3/KXPA100 Power Output Difference

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

Don's points are very good.   Add to that the resistance or load value 
to which the power indicator was calibrated.  Ideally it is 50 ohms R 
+j0.  However, being a voltage sensing circuit, any deviation from 50 
ohms will impact the indication.  Thus a 55 ohm load, showing a SWR of 
1.1:1 can cause a 10% error as a higher power indication.   And with a 
45 ohm load, showing a SWR of 1.1:1, will show a 10% lower power 
reading.  Many ham watt meters are only accurate to about 20% of full 
scale largely to the above as well as circuit components being frequency 
dependent.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 12/1/2017 10:23 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Jim,

Amateur wattmeters are notoriously "famous" for their inaccuracies. 
Errors of up to 20% are not unusual, and in many cases it depends on 
the band because the voltage produced by the measurement diodes are 
frequency dependent.


So bottom line, don't worry about the 10 watt differential.  You are 
like the man with two watches who does not really know what time it is!


On the KX3 Yahoo Group question, I receive individual emails (not the 
digest), but something has happened, and I cannot post to any of the 
Yahoo groups that I am subscribed to for the past 2 weeks. I think 
Yahoo has "gone to the dogs".


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/1/2017 9:33 PM, Jim Ruff via Elecraft wrote:
I using a KX3/KXPA100 and I'm noticing that when I'm in TX the RF 
meter on the rig matches the set power of the rig, but on the KXP100 
meter, it shows 10 or more watts less output.  Some examples:Rig   
Amp50w  40w60w  50w70w 60w80w  70w
Here is what i've checked so far.  The Powerwerx PS is showing 13.8v 
when receiving and dips to 12.9v when in TX, so I don't believe I 
have a voltage problem.  I've moved the rig's power connection  back 
and forth from the front of the Powerwerx  PS to the top power pole 
connection on the back of the KXPA100 with no change.I've also 
re-tuned all bands from 10-40 meters with my LDG100 remote tuner and 
the highest SWR I receive is 1.4:1 on 30 and 40 meters.  All of the 
other bands are 1:1 to 1.2:1, so I don't think I'm getting any power 
foldback because of high SWR..  Does anyone have any thoughts on 
what's causing this differential, and if two power output meters are 
never going to be in sync, which meter is the most accurate?
Also, as an aside. Is there something wrong with the KX3 group from 
Yahoo? I haven't recieved a digest in days and when I try to get into 
the group I get an error message

Thanks,Jim W7JHR
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S New Builder (Tom NB5Q)

[Mark Goldberg]

I agree with all this advice. I can tell you that any questions you have
will be answered by the fine people on the Elecraft forums, and if they
can't, Elecraft provides exceptional help. I have built three Elecraft kits
and got help from one of the designers on one of the forums, on a weekend,
when I had an issue. You will not get help like that from anyone else.

One thing I do for screws and small parts that are NOT ESD sensitive is to
count, measure and sort them all out into labeled bins of something like a
bead organizer first. Then you know you have what you need ahead of time. I
use the ones with individual round, screw top containers and put little
post it note labels on each. Work on a clean ESD protected surface and keep
the NON ESD parts bins away.

Best of luck and there is great satisfaction in building what you use.

73,

Mark
W7MLG

On Dec 2, 2017 5:45 AM, "John Stengrevics"  wrote:

> HI Tom,
>
> I, like you, chose to get back into ham radio after many years by building
> the K3S.
>
> Don suggestions are right on the money.  Follow the instructions to the
> letter.
>
> I made 3 small errors, all found with the help of Elecraft tech support,
> and I think with Don’s help as well.  I attribute the errors to trying to
> work too late into the night.  So, don’t try to overdo and don’t rush it.
>
> 73,
>
> John
> WA1EAZ
>
> > On Dec 1, 2017, at 11:11 PM, Tom Norris  wrote:
> >
> > My first post, new builder, old man (74 years young!). I've been inactive
> > for some time but looking forward to getting back on CW with the new K3S,
> > P3 kits. I'm sure I will be back here for your valued and experienced
> > assistance during the build and setup. I have searched for and read a lot
> > of the posts on the list pertaining to assembling Elecraft kits. Thank
> you
> > and I hope to use a lot of the information in those posts. If you have
> any
> > up front advice in the assembly or setup of the following parts, I hope
> you
> > will share it with me.
> >
> > K3S 100W Xcvr. Kit ; P3-K Panadapter Kit; External Speaker; The Elecraft
> > K3S and P3 by Fred Cady; K3S ATU; K3S Gen. Cov. RX Module; KFL3C-400; 2.8
> > for 2.7 kHz swap; KFL3B-FM; P3 Video/FFT Adapt.; P3 TX Monitor Adapt;
> 1.8-54
> > MHz 200W; incl. P3TXMON
> >
> > Thanks a lot,
> > Tom Norris NB5Q New Mexico
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S New Builder (Tom NB5Q)

[John Stengrevics]

HI Tom,

I, like you, chose to get back into ham radio after many years by building the 
K3S.

Don suggestions are right on the money.  Follow the instructions to the letter.

I made 3 small errors, all found with the help of Elecraft tech support, and I 
think with Don’s help as well.  I attribute the errors to trying to work too 
late into the night.  So, don’t try to overdo and don’t rush it.

73,

John
WA1EAZ

> On Dec 1, 2017, at 11:11 PM, Tom Norris  wrote:
> 
> My first post, new builder, old man (74 years young!). I've been inactive
> for some time but looking forward to getting back on CW with the new K3S,
> P3 kits. I'm sure I will be back here for your valued and experienced
> assistance during the build and setup. I have searched for and read a lot
> of the posts on the list pertaining to assembling Elecraft kits. Thank you
> and I hope to use a lot of the information in those posts. If you have any
> up front advice in the assembly or setup of the following parts, I hope you
> will share it with me.
> 
> K3S 100W Xcvr. Kit ; P3-K Panadapter Kit; External Speaker; The Elecraft
> K3S and P3 by Fred Cady; K3S ATU; K3S Gen. Cov. RX Module; KFL3C-400; 2.8
> for 2.7 kHz swap; KFL3B-FM; P3 Video/FFT Adapt.; P3 TX Monitor Adapt; 1.8-54
> MHz 200W; incl. P3TXMON
> 
> Thanks a lot,
> Tom Norris NB5Q New Mexico
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