Re: [Elecraft] K2 INFO 232

[Don Wilhelm]

Erik,

Your K2 has the A to B updates, do NOT put X2 in!
For Firmware level 2.01 and above, CAL PLL is done only on 40 meters 
(for all bands).  If attempted on other bands, you will get an INFO 232 
error.


Use the information in the newer manual - the older manual has 
information *only* applicable to K2s that have not been upgraded.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/19/2018 10:18 PM, EricJ wrote:
I have K2 SN 567. I didn't really have a problem with it, but I bought 
it used in 2005, had W3FPR look at it then, and install latest mods to 
bring it up to date. Today, I thought it might be time to take a look at 
alignment, and freshen it up a bit.


When I did the "PLL Ref Osc Range Test" in Alignment Part II, the range 
was slightly less than 6 kHz. When I got to "VFO Linearization", 40 
meters was fine without any INFO messages.


I was using the original Rev B manual (not related to RevB board) that 
came with it. Under Part III, Alignment and Test there is another "VFO 
Linearization (All Bands)". I did that and every band failed (INFO 232) 
except 40 meters. And of course, in the Rev B manual, there is no INFO 
232 only 235. Anyway, I checked around Q19 as the Troubleshooting 
suggested and found X1, but no X2. After reading the circuit operation, 
I was convinced somehow X2 got left out. Since it was supposed to be 
there to prevent the very short range problem I thought I was 
experiencing, I thought I had found the problem.


I emailed Elecraft to order X2, and got a nice note from Mike saying 
they would send one out no charge. That kind of service still amazes me. 
But I told him to hold off until I can hear from this group.


I checked my other K2 manual (I also have SN 6911), and, first, it does 
not have a procedure for VFO linearization on anything but 40 meters. In 
fact, it says INFO 232 probably occurred because I wasn't on 40m. And 
the parts lists says X2 is not used!


I went into this without having any actual problem or complaint. The old 
manual convinced me I did. The later Rev I manual says I might, but 
didn't know it. I'm supposed to have a PLL range of 9.8 to 15 kHz. I 
have 5.97 kHz.


So if that is a problem, the problem is associated with Q19 which is a 
very simple stage. X1 is probably the most likely cause. Any ideas?


Also, since two crystals were originally used to "de-Q one another to 
increase the tuning range", what was done to make two crystals unnecessary?


Thanks for any help,
Eric KE6US


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Re: [Elecraft] Far OT: A styrofoam peanuts story

[Mark Bayern]

Ken, assuming you had already been on the scales, she knew trailer
must be empty. :)

Mark  AD5SS


On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 5:13 PM, Ken G Kopp  wrote:
> After retiring from my "regular" job, Rose (N7HKW) and I got
> into an OTR "18-Wheeler" for a million miles and five years.
>
> One incident involving Styrofoam peanuts comes to mind.
> We were called into a California border inspection station
> for what was supposed to be a routine inspection.  The lady
> on duty ordered me to open the doors of the truck's trailer so
> she could see that we were hauling what the waybill said.
>
> I told her that the trailer was loaded with bulk blown-in Styrofoam
> peanuts and she really didn't want me to do that.  Her response
> was to -order- me to open the doors.  Said "OK, but you'll regret
> it."
>
> It was windy that day .
>
> 73!
>
> K0PP
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[Elecraft] K2 INFO 232

[EricJ]

I have K2 SN 567. I didn't really have a problem with it, but I bought 
it used in 2005, had W3FPR look at it then, and install latest mods to 
bring it up to date. Today, I thought it might be time to take a look at 
alignment, and freshen it up a bit.


When I did the "PLL Ref Osc Range Test" in Alignment Part II, the range 
was slightly less than 6 kHz. When I got to "VFO Linearization", 40 
meters was fine without any INFO messages.


I was using the original Rev B manual (not related to RevB board) that 
came with it. Under Part III, Alignment and Test there is another "VFO 
Linearization (All Bands)". I did that and every band failed (INFO 232) 
except 40 meters. And of course, in the Rev B manual, there is no INFO 
232 only 235. Anyway, I checked around Q19 as the Troubleshooting 
suggested and found X1, but no X2. After reading the circuit operation, 
I was convinced somehow X2 got left out. Since it was supposed to be 
there to prevent the very short range problem I thought I was 
experiencing, I thought I had found the problem.


I emailed Elecraft to order X2, and got a nice note from Mike saying 
they would send one out no charge. That kind of service still amazes me. 
But I told him to hold off until I can hear from this group.


I checked my other K2 manual (I also have SN 6911), and, first, it does 
not have a procedure for VFO linearization on anything but 40 meters. In 
fact, it says INFO 232 probably occurred because I wasn't on 40m. And 
the parts lists says X2 is not used!


I went into this without having any actual problem or complaint. The old 
manual convinced me I did. The later Rev I manual says I might, but 
didn't know it. I'm supposed to have a PLL range of 9.8 to 15 kHz. I 
have 5.97 kHz.


So if that is a problem, the problem is associated with Q19 which is a 
very simple stage. X1 is probably the most likely cause. Any ideas?


Also, since two crystals were originally used to "de-Q one another to 
increase the tuning range", what was done to make two crystals unnecessary?


Thanks for any help,
Eric KE6US


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Re: [Elecraft] Far OT: A styrofoam peanuts story

[Tox]

Awesome :)

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 3:13 PM, Ken G Kopp  wrote:

> After retiring from my "regular" job, Rose (N7HKW) and I got
> into an OTR "18-Wheeler" for a million miles and five years.
>
> One incident involving Styrofoam peanuts comes to mind.
> We were called into a California border inspection station
> for what was supposed to be a routine inspection.  The lady
> on duty ordered me to open the doors of the truck's trailer so
> she could see that we were hauling what the waybill said.
>
> I told her that the trailer was loaded with bulk blown-in Styrofoam
> peanuts and she really didn't want me to do that.  Her response
> was to -order- me to open the doors.  Said "OK, but you'll regret
> it."
>
> It was windy that day .
>
> 73!
>
> K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: shipper from H

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Folks, this thread is getting out of control under its multiple subject lines - 
way exceeding our OT posting number limit. Let's end all of the "shipper from 
H", UPS, USPS and "Shipping Peanuts" threads at this time.


73,
Eric
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Looking forward to seeing many of you at Visalia International DX convention 
this weekend!

/
On 4/19/2018 1:27 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote:

Seems odd that the computer auto correct should pick the name of a town to auto 
correct instead of relying on the zip code given.



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Re: [Elecraft] Packing Peanuts Are Of the Devil!

[Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT]

They do, and thanks for not asking how I know.

On 4/19/2018 4:30 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote:

I hope that they taste better than polystyrene foam peanuts.

John KK9A


Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:
  
Many companies use packing peanuts made of potato starch.  They're water

soluble and biodegradable.  Dump 'em on your front lawn and turn on the
sprinklers.

Even if they blow away, the first good rain will take care of them.

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: shipper from H

[Kevin Cozens]

On 2018-04-19 04:24 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

There's the core of a really great dystopian novel in this somewhere. [:-)


This reminds me of an Infocom adventure game called Bureaucracy that was 
created by Douglas Adams. The ultimate goal of the game was to get the bank 
to acknowledge a change of address card.


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[Elecraft] Packing Peanuts Are Of the Devil!

[john]

I hope that they taste better than polystyrene foam peanuts.

John KK9A


Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:
 
Many companies use packing peanuts made of potato starch.  They're water 
soluble and biodegradable.  Dump 'em on your front lawn and turn on the 
sprinklers.

Even if they blow away, the first good rain will take care of them.

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Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

[Dick Green WC1M]

USPS has a similar free service, called Informed Delivery. It also lets you see 
photos of mail pieces (non-packages) heading your way. Fedex has something 
similar as well. One thing that's great about these services is they tell you 
what's coming to your address even if you don't have a tracking number. It's 
definitely worth signing up for these free accounts. You also get the ability 
to prepay for shipping and print labels. That saves time at the P.O. and 
sometimes I can get UPS or Fedex to pick up the package for fee when they're 
delivering one.

I agree that any one of these services can and will damage goods that are not 
packed well. That's on the shipper. Most of the horror stories I've heard were 
due to the shipper not packing the goods adequately (though sometimes that can 
be undone on an international shipment by customs inspectors.) That said, I've 
seen some instances where the box itself was penetrated or crushed, which is on 
the carrier.

I believe custom foam inserts and double-boxing are the best way to protect 
electronic equipment, though double boxing almost always involves the dreaded 
peanuts.

I live at the end of an 1100' gravel driveway, so the carriers can leave 
packages on the front porch with little or no danger that they'll be stolen. 
Even so, for something as expensive as a KPA1500 I would opt for a signature 
being required. I suspect that if you don't do  that you could have trouble 
collecting the full insurance. Also, several times UPS has delivered our 
packages to the wrong address. We were able to get them back, but that might 
not be the case with something really expensive.

Sometimes a substitute driver will refuse to venture down our driveway for fear 
of not being able to turn around (the turn-around isn't visible from the road) 
or fear of getting stuck in snow, ice or mud. So they leave the package in the 
mailbox (which I believe is illegal) or they put it in a plastic bag tied to 
the mailbox post. The mailbox is right on the highway in front of our driveway, 
so the package could be stolen easily. A couple of times they just dumped the 
box in the snow at head of the driveway. I usually call to let UPS know so they 
can tell the drivers not to do that. Again, requiring a signature gets around 
that problem but also requires that we hang around all day. I recently had a 
signature-required shipment where the estimated delivery times were off by many 
hours so I missed it twice and had to pick it up at the UPS depot 20 minutes 
away.

My least favorite delivery method is SurePost. UPS picks up the package, sends 
it to your region, then hands it off to USPS for the last part of the trip. 
That always adds at least one day, if not several days.

All this said, it amazes me how much stuff we're buying online these days and 
how cheap the shipping has become.

73, Dick WC1M

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From: j...@kk9a.com  
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 12:37 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

Sign up for UPS My Choice
https://www.ups.com/mobile/deliveryplanner?loc=en_US and you will be aware of 
every package coming to your residence. You can redirect packages if they 
require a signature and you will not be home.

John KK9A


N4ZR wrote:

Yes, I know. The problem is that they did not warn me when tracking the package 
that I would have to be there, and despite claiming they would do so, their web 
site also gave me no inkling of when during the day I could expect delivery. 
For a company that designs its deliveryroutes to minimize left turns, you'd 
think this would be child's play.

73, Pete N4ZR
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[Elecraft] Far OT: A styrofoam peanuts story

[Ken G Kopp]

After retiring from my "regular" job, Rose (N7HKW) and I got
into an OTR "18-Wheeler" for a million miles and five years.

One incident involving Styrofoam peanuts comes to mind.
We were called into a California border inspection station
for what was supposed to be a routine inspection.  The lady
on duty ordered me to open the doors of the truck's trailer so
she could see that we were hauling what the waybill said.

I told her that the trailer was loaded with bulk blown-in Styrofoam
peanuts and she really didn't want me to do that.  Her response
was to -order- me to open the doors.  Said "OK, but you'll regret
it."

It was windy that day .

73!

K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] Longer K-Pod cable?

[Jim Hill]

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> On Apr 19, 2018, at 6:46 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Bob,
> 
> You are welcome to try it.  I have seen no data on how long it can be.
> BTW, it is NOT a 4 wire cable - it uses 5 wires out of 6 in the 6P6C 
> connector - pin 1 must not be connected.  See page 19 of the K-Pod manual.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 4/19/2018 9:16 AM, Bob Novas wrote:
>> Can I just makeup a 4 wire cable that is longer than the cable supplied with
>> the K-Pod?  Any gotchas?
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 168, Issue 23/ Grounds on Power Supply

[Edward Mccann via Elecraft]

Eric:

Concur this horse has been beaten senseless, lacking a conclusion.

But to set us straight, how did Elecraft  handle this notion in its SS 30 DV? 
Do I need to scrape paint or disconnect wires to be safe?

Thanks,

Ed McCann
AG6CX

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>   1. Re: KPA1500 Caution (Edward R Cole)
>   2. Re: Negative rail grounding (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
>   3. Re: KPA1500 Caution (John Marvin)
>   4. Packing Peanuts Are Of the Devil! (Jim Brown)
>   5. WTB: Loaded KX3 (Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS)
>   6. Re: Packing Peanuts Are Of the Devil! (Bill)
>   7. UPS Practice? was:Re:  KPA1500 Caution (N4ZR)
>   8. Re: UPS Practice? was:Re:  KPA1500 Caution (tnny...@yahoo.com)
>   9. Re: UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution (Dave Sublette)
>  10. Longer K-Pod cable? (Bob Novas)
>  11. Re: UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution (Joe Subich, W4TV)
>  12. Re: UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution (Don Wilhelm)
>  13. Re: UPS Practice? was:Re:  KPA1500 Caution (Mark E. Musick)
>  14. Re: UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution (Jim N7US)
>  15. Re: UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution (Don Wilhelm)
>  16. Re: UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution (N4ZR)
>  17. Re: UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution (SAMUEL L ROWE)
>  18. Re: Longer K-Pod cable? (Don Wilhelm)
>  19. Re: Packing Peanuts Are Of the Devil! (David Gilbert)
>  20. Re: Packing Peanuts Are Of the Devil! (Rick WA6NHC)
>  21. Re: Packing Peanuts Are Of the Devil! (rich hurd WC3T)
>  22.  UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution (j...@kk9a.com)
>  23. Re: Longer K-Pod cable? (Bill Frantz)
>  24. Re: Longer K-Pod cable? (Chuck Milam, N9KY)
>  25. Re: [KX3] New Product: SPX3 External Speaker (Robert Morris)
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 20:36:54 -0800
> From: Edward R Cole 
> To: Elecraft Reflector 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Caution
> Message-ID: <201804190436.w3j4aual006...@mail47c28.carrierzone.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
> 
> In today's USPS, both UPS and FedEx also carry the "mail" so one 
> cannot be sure who the "actual carrier" is.
> 
> I have no home delivery of US Mail so my USPS packages are held 
> secure inside the PO.  Both UPS and FedEx delivery are drop n scoot 
> (lucky if you are home and hear the knock).  And there your lovely 
> $5K purchase sits out in the wx available for thieves.  I could opt 
> for one of the box clusters which would result in driving 25-miles to 
> the PO to pickup boxes too large.  RFD is out of a neighbor city.  My 
> local PO is 4.5 miles. When I was still employed the PO was 0.25 mi 
> from work which made it very convenient.  Its a small town PO and 
> they know me by name.
> 
> Another reason to chose Priority Mail is that UPS/FedEx cost 2x to 3x 
> as much for delivery to Alaska (and 2-day delivery is 3-day+ for 
> all  three services). No UPS/FedEx on weekends.  PO is open on Saturday.
> 
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>   http://www.kl7uw.com
> Dubus-NA Business mail:
>   dubus...@gmail.com 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 22:09:53 -0700
> From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" 
> To: k2...@arrl.net
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Negative rail grounding
> Message-ID: <3b8eda91-dad0-428c-b883-643e5ac14...@elecraft.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii
> 
> Gentlemen, This thread and related threads is getting well past our max OT 
> posting limit. Please take it off list for now and report back on your final 
> conclusions if you come to agreement.
> 
> 73,
> Eric
> Moderator most of the time.. 
> elecraft.com
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> 
> 
> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2018, at 4:09 PM, Phil Kane  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 4/18/2018 11:28 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
>>> 
>>> NEC does not apply to low voltage DC systems.
>> 
>> Oh?  Check NEC Section 7 , specifically Article 720, which applies
>> specifically to Low Voltage systems.  (We do a LOT of 48V distribution
>> system designs.)
>> 
>> Philip M. Kane  Esq / P.E.  (K2ASP since 1952)
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 23:37:31 -0600
> From: John Marvin 
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Caution
> Message-ID: 

Re: [Elecraft] Packing Peanuts Are Of the Devil!

[Tim N9PUZ]

If packing material you don't happen to like is the worst thing that
happened to you today then it was a pretty fine day overall.

Tim N9PUZ
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: shipper from H

[hawley, charles j jr]

Seems odd that the computer auto correct should pick the name of a town to auto 
correct instead of relying on the zip code given.

Chuck KE9UW
c-haw...@illinois.edu

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> On Apr 19, 2018, at 2:40 PM, Edward R Cole  wrote:
> 
> hopefully topic will pass political correction police.
> 
> Recent order of a Yamaha CM500 from Amazon.com got "Lost in space".
> 
> Well actually their compooter substituted another city for mine and sent it 
> there, where all tracking failed.  Fortunately I noticed it was "delivery 
> attempted" after a week of waiting delivery and I complained to Amazon who 
> refunded my purchase of $58.33.  I checked the order at amazon on-line and it 
> properly listed Nikiski.  But the package was addressed to Kenai with the 
> Nikiski zip code.  This is not the first time amazon screwed up.
> 
> I ordered again listing this time the physical address of my PO (which I have 
> permission to do).  Not only USPS but UPS and FedEx shipments can accepted 
> (for me) by my local PO.  This a nice cure for "drop n scoot" delivery by 
> later two shippers.
> 
> Even when I use "click-n-ship" for prepaid packages mailed thru the USPS,  
> the USPS Internet site changes my address town and zipcode to Kenai 
> 99611-5074 (???).  Fortunately this is only the return address.  I can try to 
> correct the address before printing my labels but the USPS compooter just 
> changes it back.  So no win.  Hopefully, none of my shipments are returned 
> (to the wrong city and zipcode).
> 
> Of course it knows more than the hooman that wrote it.  I guess another evil 
> like "auto-fill" and "auto-correct"?
> 
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>  http://www.kl7uw.com
> Dubus-NA Business mail:
>  dubus...@gmail.com 
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: shipper from H

[Fred Jensen]

Well ... not always.  Moved from Auburn CA to Sparks NV in summer of 
2015.  Filed the forwarding notice with Auburn PO and all worked well 
... except Verizon.  Didn't get bills, they finally sent me a text, CS 
agent tells me our address -- and it is wrong, maybe 2 miles from our 
real address.  CS agent corrects it, still no bills.  Next month, CS 
agent says our address is again that wrong one and corrects it.  
Continue this pattern for about 6 months.  After quite a bit of 
sleuthing on my part and letters to Verizon [including CEO [:-) ], trips 
to PO, it appears:


Pitney-Bowes, of postage meter fame, has a service [I forget name, 
Veri?] that will connect with your company database, reach 
in, and "correct" addresses therein.  Verizon is a subscriber to this 
service, and once a month, this happens.  P-B says they get their 
address information from the USPS.  Local postmaster knows nothing.  
Actually, no one at USPS anywhere knows about such a database, and no 
one is interested in asking P-B who they're downloading addresses from.  
P-B does not disclose such data to individuals, apparently even if said 
individual is the one whose address they're screwing up.  Have never 
gotten mail from Verizon, I pay the bill on-line now.


There's the core of a really great dystopian novel in this somewhere. [:-)

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 4/19/2018 12:45 PM, Tox wrote:

FWIW, you can get USPS to correct their database. I don't have the link
handy, but your local postmaster should have a reference.

Scott




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Re: [Elecraft] Packing Peanuts Are Of the Devil!

[Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT]

Many companies use packing peanuts made of potato starch.  They're water 
soluble and biodegradable.  Dump 'em on your front lawn and turn on the 
sprinklers.


Even if they blow away, the first good rain will take care of them.

On 4/19/2018 8:57 AM, rich hurd WC3T wrote:

Look in the shipping department.   They have a huge dispenser and just open
a spigot and let them pour in.  Fast and easy, pushing the labor for
removal to the person OPENING the package.  ;)


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: shipper from H

[Don Sanders]

Even when you move and give all the needed documentation for forwarding
the USPS screws up. I've had three items returned as undeliverable and
yesterday
was notified by Amazon that my item was delivered and held by the post
office for
7 days and to arrange for pickup.
Upon contacting the PO by phone They checked the tracking number and
informed
me they delivered it to the former address the previous day. My wife
checked our
mail box and, guess?, YUP it was in our PO box not the former address.
And the PO wants a price increase for their Obvious(?) great service.

Dr. Don W4BWS



On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 3:40 PM, Edward R Cole  wrote:

> hopefully topic will pass political correction police.
>
> Recent order of a Yamaha CM500 from Amazon.com got "Lost in space".
>
> Well actually their compooter substituted another city for mine and sent
> it there, where all tracking failed.  Fortunately I noticed it was
> "delivery attempted" after a week of waiting delivery and I complained to
> Amazon who refunded my purchase of $58.33.  I checked the order at amazon
> on-line and it properly listed Nikiski.  But the package was addressed to
> Kenai with the Nikiski zip code.  This is not the first time amazon screwed
> up.
>
> I ordered again listing this time the physical address of my PO (which I
> have permission to do).  Not only USPS but UPS and FedEx shipments can
> accepted (for me) by my local PO.  This a nice cure for "drop n scoot"
> delivery by later two shippers.
>
> Even when I use "click-n-ship" for prepaid packages mailed thru the USPS,
> the USPS Internet site changes my address town and zipcode to Kenai
> 99611-5074 (???).  Fortunately this is only the return address.  I can try
> to correct the address before printing my labels but the USPS compooter
> just changes it back.  So no win.  Hopefully, none of my shipments are
> returned (to the wrong city and zipcode).
>
> Of course it knows more than the hooman that wrote it.  I guess another
> evil like "auto-fill" and "auto-correct"?
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>   http://www.kl7uw.com
> Dubus-NA Business mail:
>   dubus...@gmail.com
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: shipper from H

[Tox]

FWIW, you can get USPS to correct their database. I don't have the link
handy, but your local postmaster should have a reference.

Scott

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Edward R Cole  wrote:

> hopefully topic will pass political correction police.
>
> Recent order of a Yamaha CM500 from Amazon.com got "Lost in space".
>
> Well actually their compooter substituted another city for mine and sent
> it there, where all tracking failed.  Fortunately I noticed it was
> "delivery attempted" after a week of waiting delivery and I complained to
> Amazon who refunded my purchase of $58.33.  I checked the order at amazon
> on-line and it properly listed Nikiski.  But the package was addressed to
> Kenai with the Nikiski zip code.  This is not the first time amazon screwed
> up.
>
> I ordered again listing this time the physical address of my PO (which I
> have permission to do).  Not only USPS but UPS and FedEx shipments can
> accepted (for me) by my local PO.  This a nice cure for "drop n scoot"
> delivery by later two shippers.
>
> Even when I use "click-n-ship" for prepaid packages mailed thru the USPS,
> the USPS Internet site changes my address town and zipcode to Kenai
> 99611-5074 (???).  Fortunately this is only the return address.  I can try
> to correct the address before printing my labels but the USPS compooter
> just changes it back.  So no win.  Hopefully, none of my shipments are
> returned (to the wrong city and zipcode).
>
> Of course it knows more than the hooman that wrote it.  I guess another
> evil like "auto-fill" and "auto-correct"?
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>   http://www.kl7uw.com
> Dubus-NA Business mail:
>   dubus...@gmail.com
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[Elecraft] OT: shipper from H

[Edward R Cole]

hopefully topic will pass political correction police.

Recent order of a Yamaha CM500 from Amazon.com got "Lost in space".

Well actually their compooter substituted another city for mine and 
sent it there, where all tracking failed.  Fortunately I noticed it 
was "delivery attempted" after a week of waiting delivery and I 
complained to Amazon who refunded my purchase of $58.33.  I checked 
the order at amazon on-line and it properly listed Nikiski.  But the 
package was addressed to Kenai with the Nikiski zip code.  This is 
not the first time amazon screwed up.


I ordered again listing this time the physical address of my PO 
(which I have permission to do).  Not only USPS but UPS and FedEx 
shipments can accepted (for me) by my local PO.  This a nice cure for 
"drop n scoot" delivery by later two shippers.


Even when I use "click-n-ship" for prepaid packages mailed thru the 
USPS,  the USPS Internet site changes my address town and zipcode to 
Kenai 99611-5074 (???).  Fortunately this is only the return 
address.  I can try to correct the address before printing my labels 
but the USPS compooter just changes it back.  So no win.  Hopefully, 
none of my shipments are returned (to the wrong city and zipcode).


Of course it knows more than the hooman that wrote it.  I guess 
another evil like "auto-fill" and "auto-correct"?


73, Ed - KL7UW
  http://www.kl7uw.com
Dubus-NA Business mail:
  dubus...@gmail.com 


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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] New Product: SPX3 External Speaker

[Robert Morris]

Here is my reply to another response which didn't make it to my Inbox. I
try to keep up with everyone's inquiries. The original response is at
the bottom: 

Hi Mark, 

Thanks for your feedback. I've been wondering the same thing about the
grille. A square or rectangular grille would mimic the look of the
Elecraft SP3, which is a plus. On the other hand, in order to have a
volume knob on the face, a square or rectangular grille would likely
force the enclosure to be wider to accommodate both the grille and knob.
The round grille allows a knob to be placed in the corner with ease. 
Also, a round grille weighs less. 

I used a round grille for the first prototype because I was able to
source one that fit the speaker driver I'm using. So, I could at least
have a complete speaker. Fortunately, it looks better than I had
anticipated. Of course, your question is, which would look better? For
many, it comes down to personal preference. I'm open to what you and
others prefer. 

Thanks and 73,
Robert (AG6ZZ) 

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Robert,

I love the idea, I'm wondering about whether a square or rectangular
speaker grill would look better.  73, 

Mark
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Re: [Elecraft] Longer K-Pod cable?

[Chuck Milam, N9KY]

Bob:

I made one to allow it to reach around the back of the desk and then
underneath to the keyboard tray, so the K-Pod is right next to my computer
mouse--very handy.

Make sure you get the wiring correct, as W3PFR points out, pin 1 must not
be connected, else you may get some "interesting" results.

I ordered a 6P6C cable, cut off one end, then crimped on my own connector
with the pin 1 wire cut back and therefore disconnected.

If you do this, be sure to mark the cable ends, as noted in the K-Pod
manual:

*"If you disconnect the wire at only one end, be sure that end is plugged
into your K3S or K3."*  (p. 19)


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> Can I just makeup a 4 wire cable that is longer than the cable supplied
> with
> the K-Pod?  Any gotchas?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Bob - W3DK
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Re: [Elecraft] Longer K-Pod cable?

[Bill Frantz]

I have made a slightly longer cable, mine iw 4 or 5 feet long. 
Elecraft warns that these cables aren't good for long distances, 
so builder beware. My cable seems to work reliably.


Do follow Don't warning and don't connect pin 1. The K3(S) end 
is also used for factory setup of the radio, and you don't want 
to go there yourself.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 4/19/18 at 6:16 AM, bob.no...@verizon.net (Bob Novas) wrote:


Can I just makeup a 4 wire cable that is longer than the cable supplied with
the K-Pod?  Any gotchas?


Thanks,
Bob - W3DK


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[Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

[j...@kk9a.com]

Sign up for UPS My Choice
https://www.ups.com/mobile/deliveryplanner?loc=en_US and you will be aware
of every package coming to your residence. You can redirect packages if
they require a signature and you will not be home.

John KK9A


N4ZR wrote:

Yes, I know. The problem is that they did not warn me when tracking the
package that I would have to be there, and despite claiming they would
do so, their web site also gave me no inkling of when during the day I
could expect delivery. For a company that designs its deliveryroutes to
minimize left turns, you'd think this would be child's play.

73, Pete N4ZR
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Re: [Elecraft] Packing Peanuts Are Of the Devil!

[rich hurd WC3T]

Look in the shipping department.   They have a huge dispenser and just open
a spigot and let them pour in.  Fast and easy, pushing the labor for
removal to the person OPENING the package.  ;)

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 11:32 David Gilbert 
wrote:

>
> Pretty much the same effect can be had with styrofoam peanuts if they
> are bagged, such as with lightweight kitchen trash bags. Conformal
> packing without the mess.  I'll never understand why companies ship with
> loose peanuts.
>
> Dave  AB7E
>
>
>
> On 4/19/2018 3:27 AM, Bill wrote:
> > The best packed radio I ever received was from TenTec. The radio was
> > bagged and was placed on the middle of a bed of cured spray foam. Then
> > the remainder of the box was filled with the same expanding spray
> > foam. Totally secure - nothing could move in any direction. I do not
> > know if this was their standard packing - I only purchased once from
> > them.
> >
> > Bill W2BLC K-line
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Re: [Elecraft] Packing Peanuts Are Of the Devil!

[Rick WA6NHC]

Because they slide the box under a hopper, spill peanuts in, add the 
product and fill with more peanuts, slide to the taping position, label 
and ship.  Simple, quick and low cost to let them move more product out 
faster.  Pure economics.


Rick nhc


On 4/19/2018 8:32 AM, David Gilbert wrote:


Pretty much the same effect can be had with styrofoam peanuts if they 
are bagged, such as with lightweight kitchen trash bags. Conformal 
packing without the mess.  I'll never understand why companies ship 
with loose peanuts.


Dave  AB7E


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Re: [Elecraft] Packing Peanuts Are Of the Devil!

[David Gilbert]

Pretty much the same effect can be had with styrofoam peanuts if they 
are bagged, such as with lightweight kitchen trash bags. Conformal 
packing without the mess.  I'll never understand why companies ship with 
loose peanuts.


Dave  AB7E



On 4/19/2018 3:27 AM, Bill wrote:
The best packed radio I ever received was from TenTec. The radio was 
bagged and was placed on the middle of a bed of cured spray foam. Then 
the remainder of the box was filled with the same expanding spray 
foam. Totally secure - nothing could move in any direction. I do not 
know if this was their standard packing - I only purchased once from 
them.


Bill W2BLC K-line

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Re: [Elecraft] Longer K-Pod cable?

[Don Wilhelm]

Bob,

You are welcome to try it.  I have seen no data on how long it can be.
BTW, it is NOT a 4 wire cable - it uses 5 wires out of 6 in the 6P6C 
connector - pin 1 must not be connected.  See page 19 of the K-Pod manual.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/19/2018 9:16 AM, Bob Novas wrote:

Can I just makeup a 4 wire cable that is longer than the cable supplied with
the K-Pod?  Any gotchas?

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Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

[SAMUEL L ROWE]

I have that as well as Informed Delivery Daily Digest from the USPS which is 
also free.


Sam KG9NG



From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
behalf of Jim N7US 
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 8:35 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

I signed up for UPS My Choice, which is free.  I receive emails informing me of 
any packages scheduled for delivery at my address whether they're addressed to 
me or someone else in my household.  I can specify where the packages are to be 
left (e.g., side porch), when, or whether I want to pick up the package at a 
UPS location.

Check it out at
https://www.ups.com/us/en/services/tracking/mychoice.page .
UPS My Choice® | UPS 
Services
www.ups.com
UPS My Choice® lets you decide how, where and when home deliveries occur. 
Online or by mobile, with My Choice you can put your plans ahead of the 
package. UPS My Choice® lets you decide how, where and when home deliveries 
occur. Online or by mobile, with UPS My Choice you can put your plans ahead of



73, Jim N7US

-Original Message-


There is an APP that allows you to specify when you want your package delivered 
by UPS.  Also, you might have been able to go to the UPS distribution point in 
your area and pick it up, depending on what time of day you got home, etc...  I 
have done this several times.

I know it is disappointing to miss a delivery, but the other fellow is right.  
I wouldn't want that beautiful amp to sit on my door step for anyone to pick up 
when I'm not home.

73,

Dave, K4TO

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 8:39 AM, tnnyswy--- via Elecraft < 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> >>> Imagine my surprise to
> see that a signature was required <<<
> Pete, why would you be surprise? !!Or! maybe the question
> should've been, should UPS just leave such an expensive package on
> your doorstep?!!!I'm sure there were instructions on how to get the
> Radio/ Package at your convenience. You should be rather "Thrilled"
> that UPS has given consideration to following the instructions of a
> safe delivery set forth by Elecraft.
> Milverton / W9MMS.
>
>
> On Thursday, April 19, 2018, 6:54:34 AM CDT, N4ZR
> 
> wrote:
>
>  I have had good luck with USPS, but am less than thrilled with UPS.
> My
> K3 has been on its way back from Watsonville and was to arrive
> yesterday, but I wasn't home when UPS came by.  Imagine my surprise to
> see that a signature was required, and that they will try again today,
> but with no indication of when or what will happen if I miss them today.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR

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Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

[N4ZR]

Yes, I know. The problem is that they did not warn me when tracking the 
package that I would have to be there, and despite claiming they would 
do so, their web site also gave me no inkling of when during the day I 
could expect delivery. For a company that designs its deliveryroutes to 
minimize left turns, you'd think this would be child's play.


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On 4/19/2018 9:32 AM, Mark E. Musick wrote:

Pete,
It is common practice to require a signature for any package of large value. I 
know that anything shipped to me over $1,000 or sometimes even $500 will 
require my signature.
I get around the having to be home issue by having the package shipped to the 
local UPS store. Yes, it costs $5.00, but well worth the convenience.
There are two ways to have your package delivered to the UPS store after being 
shipped to your home address:
One, leave a note on the door where the delivery man left his note yesterday 
telling him to drop it off at the UPS store.
The second way is using the tracking number go to the UPS website and change 
the delivery address to the local UPS store.
I've done number two many times when the UPS delivery man and I have had 
trouble connecting at my home.

73,
Mark, WB9CIF

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of N4ZR
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:52 AM
To: Elecraft List 
Subject: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

I have had good luck with USPS, but am less than thrilled with UPS.  My
K3 has been on its way back from Watsonville and was to arrive yesterday, but I 
wasn't home when UPS came by.  Imagine my surprise to see that a signature was 
required, and that they will try again today, but with no indication of when or 
what will happen if I miss them today.

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On 4/18/2018 11:02 PM, Pete Michaelis - N8TR wrote:

That's odd. I got my shipping notice Friday (ordered first day 2.5
hours after email) and also a UPS   tracking number which I have been
using to track the amps progress.

73, Pete - N8TR



At 06:17 PM 4/18/2018, alapa...@w2cs.net wrote:

I’m a day-2 KPA1500 patient waiter.  I got the email 2 days ago and
today it shipped. There’s one potential problem.  It must have been
mentioned on this reflector and I missed it.  Elecraft used U.S.
Postal Service (USPS) to send the amp cross-country.  I have never
had a good experience with USPS’ handling of package deliveries,
particularly heavy (expensive) ones.  If you care about the shipper,
have the discussion with Elecraft up front.  I should have.  Good
luck all. Gary W2CS

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Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

[Don Wilhelm]

I guess I am fortunate,  I have a 1/4 mile unpaved driveway - at the end 
of a 3/4 mile unpaved private road in our large lot subdivision (8+ 
acres for each lot.


The house cannot be seen until you get halfway up the driveway.
UPS delivers to my front door and USPS does the same for packages that 
will not fit in the mailbox.


I am signed up for UPS My Choice, so I am notified when a package will 
arrive.  I also signed the Driver Release so the driver can leave a 
package even though it is insured and I am temporarily away.
I am very careful to set a "vacation stop" for both UPS and USPS when I 
will be away for an extended period of time.  That guarantees that the 
driver will not leave a package when I am away from home for an extended 
period.


Delivery service from both carriers is excellent here, but as has been 
said, much depends on the local delivery person.  I reward mine with a 
gift during the holiday season, and it pays benefits.


USPS and UPS both work well for me.  I do not have the same flexibilty 
with FedEx, but that is not to say they are not a good carrier.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/19/2018 9:18 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

On 2018-04-19 9:00 AM, Dave Sublette wrote:
 >
 > I know it is disappointing to miss a delivery, but the other fellow is
 > right.  I wouldn't want that beautiful amp to sit on my door step for
 > anyone to pick up when I'm not home.

Consider yourself lucky if UPS *did not* drop the package on the porch
and run.  I have a 200 foot long driveway, the end of which is out of
sight of my front door.  UPS often dumps packages at the end of the
drive, in full view of the road, and out of sight of the house even if
I'm home!  The drivers simply don't want to pull into the narrow drive
(and back out) and they're too lazy to carry the package to the door
(or put it on a dolly if it's more than 25#) and wheel it up the
(concrete) drive.

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Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

[Jim N7US]

I signed up for UPS My Choice, which is free.  I receive emails informing me of 
any packages scheduled for delivery at my address whether they're addressed to 
me or someone else in my household.  I can specify where the packages are to be 
left (e.g., side porch), when, or whether I want to pick up the package at a 
UPS location.

Check it out at 
https://www.ups.com/us/en/services/tracking/mychoice.page .

73, Jim N7US

-Original Message-


There is an APP that allows you to specify when you want your package delivered 
by UPS.  Also, you might have been able to go to the UPS distribution point in 
your area and pick it up, depending on what time of day you got home, etc...  I 
have done this several times.

I know it is disappointing to miss a delivery, but the other fellow is right.  
I wouldn't want that beautiful amp to sit on my door step for anyone to pick up 
when I'm not home.

73,

Dave, K4TO

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 8:39 AM, tnnyswy--- via Elecraft < 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> >>> Imagine my surprise to
> see that a signature was required <<<
> Pete, why would you be surprise? !!Or! maybe the question 
> should've been, should UPS just leave such an expensive package on 
> your doorstep?!!!I'm sure there were instructions on how to get the 
> Radio/ Package at your convenience. You should be rather "Thrilled" 
> that UPS has given consideration to following the instructions of a 
> safe delivery set forth by Elecraft.
> Milverton / W9MMS.
>
>
> On Thursday, April 19, 2018, 6:54:34 AM CDT, N4ZR 
> 
> wrote:
>
>  I have had good luck with USPS, but am less than thrilled with UPS.  
> My
> K3 has been on its way back from Watsonville and was to arrive 
> yesterday, but I wasn't home when UPS came by.  Imagine my surprise to 
> see that a signature was required, and that they will try again today, 
> but with no indication of when or what will happen if I miss them today.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR

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Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

[Mark E. Musick]

Pete,
It is common practice to require a signature for any package of large value. I 
know that anything shipped to me over $1,000 or sometimes even $500 will 
require my signature.
I get around the having to be home issue by having the package shipped to the 
local UPS store. Yes, it costs $5.00, but well worth the convenience.
There are two ways to have your package delivered to the UPS store after being 
shipped to your home address:
One, leave a note on the door where the delivery man left his note yesterday 
telling him to drop it off at the UPS store.
The second way is using the tracking number go to the UPS website and change 
the delivery address to the local UPS store. 
I've done number two many times when the UPS delivery man and I have had 
trouble connecting at my home.

73,
Mark, WB9CIF

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of N4ZR
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:52 AM
To: Elecraft List 
Subject: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

I have had good luck with USPS, but am less than thrilled with UPS.  My
K3 has been on its way back from Watsonville and was to arrive yesterday, but I 
wasn't home when UPS came by.  Imagine my surprise to see that a signature was 
required, and that they will try again today, but with no indication of when or 
what will happen if I miss them today.

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On 4/18/2018 11:02 PM, Pete Michaelis - N8TR wrote:
> That's odd. I got my shipping notice Friday (ordered first day 2.5 
> hours after email) and also a UPS   tracking number which I have been 
> using to track the amps progress.
>
> 73, Pete - N8TR
>
>
>
> At 06:17 PM 4/18/2018, alapa...@w2cs.net wrote:
>> I’m a day-2 KPA1500 patient waiter.  I got the email 2 days ago and 
>> today it shipped. There’s one potential problem.  It must have been 
>> mentioned on this reflector and I missed it.  Elecraft used U.S.
>> Postal Service (USPS) to send the amp cross-country.  I have never 
>> had a good experience with USPS’ handling of package deliveries, 
>> particularly heavy (expensive) ones.  If you care about the shipper, 
>> have the discussion with Elecraft up front.  I should have.  Good 
>> luck all. Gary W2CS
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Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

[Don Wilhelm]

For UPS, Insurance of $1000 or more or a request for a direct signature 
will require that someone at your home sign for the delivery.


With USPS, that signature threshold is $500.

Normally, they will attempt to re-deliver the next business day.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/19/2018 8:39 AM, tnnyswy--- via Elecraft wrote:

Imagine my surprise to

see that a signature was required <<<
Pete, why would you be surprise? !!Or! maybe the question should've been, should UPS 
just leave such an expensive package on your doorstep?!!!I'm sure there were instructions 
on how to get the Radio/ Package at your convenience. You should be rather 
"Thrilled" that UPS has given consideration to following the instructions of a 
safe delivery set forth by Elecraft.
Milverton / W9MMS.

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Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

On 2018-04-19 9:00 AM, Dave Sublette wrote:
>
> I know it is disappointing to miss a delivery, but the other fellow is
> right.  I wouldn't want that beautiful amp to sit on my door step for
> anyone to pick up when I'm not home.

Consider yourself lucky if UPS *did not* drop the package on the porch
and run.  I have a 200 foot long driveway, the end of which is out of
sight of my front door.  UPS often dumps packages at the end of the
drive, in full view of the road, and out of sight of the house even if
I'm home!  The drivers simply don't want to pull into the narrow drive
(and back out) and they're too lazy to carry the package to the door
(or put it on a dolly if it's more than 25#) and wheel it up the
(concrete) drive.


73,

   ... Joe, W4TV




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[Elecraft] Longer K-Pod cable?

[Bob Novas]

Can I just makeup a 4 wire cable that is longer than the cable supplied with
the K-Pod?  Any gotchas?


Thanks,
Bob - W3DK

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Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

[Dave Sublette]

There is an APP that allows you to specify when you want your package
delivered by UPS.  Also, you might have been able to go to the UPS
distribution point in your area and pick it up, depending on what time of
day you got home, etc...  I have done this several times.

I know it is disappointing to miss a delivery, but the other fellow is
right.  I wouldn't want that beautiful amp to sit on my door step for
anyone to pick up when I'm not home.

73,

Dave, K4TO

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 8:39 AM, tnnyswy--- via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> >>> Imagine my surprise to
> see that a signature was required <<<
> Pete, why would you be surprise? !!Or! maybe the question should've
> been, should UPS just leave such an expensive package on your
> doorstep?!!!I'm sure there were instructions on how to get the Radio/
> Package at your convenience. You should be rather "Thrilled" that UPS has
> given consideration to following the instructions of a safe delivery set
> forth by Elecraft.
> Milverton / W9MMS.
>
>
> On Thursday, April 19, 2018, 6:54:34 AM CDT, N4ZR 
> wrote:
>
>  I have had good luck with USPS, but am less than thrilled with UPS.  My
> K3 has been on its way back from Watsonville and was to arrive
> yesterday, but I wasn't home when UPS came by.  Imagine my surprise to
> see that a signature was required, and that they will try again today,
> but with no indication of when or what will happen if I miss them today.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
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> On 4/18/2018 11:02 PM, Pete Michaelis - N8TR wrote:
> > That's odd. I got my shipping notice Friday (ordered first day 2.5
> > hours after email)
> > and also a UPS   tracking number which I have been using to track the
> > amps progress.
> >
> > 73, Pete - N8TR
> >
> >
> >
> > At 06:17 PM 4/18/2018, alapa...@w2cs.net wrote:
> >> I’m a day-2 KPA1500 patient waiter.  I got the email 2 days ago and
> >> today it shipped. There’s one potential problem.  It must have been
> >> mentioned on this reflector and I missed it.  Elecraft used U.S.
> >> Postal Service (USPS) to send the amp cross-country.  I have never
> >> had a good experience with USPS’ handling of package deliveries,
> >> particularly heavy (expensive) ones.  If you care about the shipper,
> >> have the discussion with Elecraft up front.  I should have.  Good
> >> luck all. Gary W2CS
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Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

[tnnyswy--- via Elecraft]

>>> Imagine my surprise to 
see that a signature was required <<<
Pete, why would you be surprise? !!Or! maybe the question should've been, 
should UPS just leave such an expensive package on your doorstep?!!!I'm sure 
there were instructions on how to get the Radio/ Package at your convenience. 
You should be rather "Thrilled" that UPS has given consideration to following 
the instructions of a safe delivery set forth by Elecraft.
Milverton / W9MMS. 
 

On Thursday, April 19, 2018, 6:54:34 AM CDT, N4ZR  wrote: 
 
 
 I have had good luck with USPS, but am less than thrilled with UPS.  My 
K3 has been on its way back from Watsonville and was to arrive 
yesterday, but I wasn't home when UPS came by.  Imagine my surprise to 
see that a signature was required, and that they will try again today, 
but with no indication of when or what will happen if I miss them today.

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On 4/18/2018 11:02 PM, Pete Michaelis - N8TR wrote:
> That's odd. I got my shipping notice Friday (ordered first day 2.5 
> hours after email)
> and also a UPS   tracking number which I have been using to track the 
> amps progress.
>
> 73, Pete - N8TR
>
>
>
> At 06:17 PM 4/18/2018, alapa...@w2cs.net wrote:
>> I’m a day-2 KPA1500 patient waiter.  I got the email 2 days ago and 
>> today it shipped. There’s one potential problem.  It must have been 
>> mentioned on this reflector and I missed it.  Elecraft used U.S. 
>> Postal Service (USPS) to send the amp cross-country.  I have never 
>> had a good experience with USPS’ handling of package deliveries, 
>> particularly heavy (expensive) ones.  If you care about the shipper, 
>> have the discussion with Elecraft up front.  I should have.  Good 
>> luck all. Gary W2CS
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[Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

[N4ZR]

I have had good luck with USPS, but am less than thrilled with UPS.  My 
K3 has been on its way back from Watsonville and was to arrive 
yesterday, but I wasn't home when UPS came by.  Imagine my surprise to 
see that a signature was required, and that they will try again today, 
but with no indication of when or what will happen if I miss them today.


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On 4/18/2018 11:02 PM, Pete Michaelis - N8TR wrote:
That's odd. I got my shipping notice Friday (ordered first day 2.5 
hours after email)
and also a UPS   tracking number which I have been using to track the 
amps progress.


73, Pete - N8TR



At 06:17 PM 4/18/2018, alapa...@w2cs.net wrote:
I’m a day-2 KPA1500 patient waiter.  I got the email 2 days ago and 
today it shipped. There’s one potential problem.  It must have been 
mentioned on this reflector and I missed it.  Elecraft used U.S. 
Postal Service (USPS) to send the amp cross-country.  I have never 
had a good experience with USPS’ handling of package deliveries, 
particularly heavy (expensive) ones.  If you care about the shipper, 
have the discussion with Elecraft up front.  I should have.  Good 
luck all. Gary W2CS

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Re: [Elecraft] Packing Peanuts Are Of the Devil!

[Bill]

The best packed radio I ever received was from TenTec. The radio was 
bagged and was placed on the middle of a bed of cured spray foam. Then 
the remainder of the box was filled with the same expanding spray foam. 
Totally secure - nothing could move in any direction. I do not know if 
this was their standard packing - I only purchased once from them.


Bill W2BLC K-line

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[Elecraft] WTB: Loaded KX3

[Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS]

Hi,

looking for loaded KX3 (KXAT3, KXBC3, KXFL3) in 100%, no issues conditions.
Lower 48 or CONUS only is ok, PayPal also.

Thanks for offers.

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