Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 Features and Pricing
I may be further taking us off topic here but yuppie stands for something = young urban professional... Most hams aren't young, you cant have antennas in an urban environment, and when's the last time you say someone wear a suit to a hamfest? I feel like I am channeling Indigo Montoya here :-P. The word you are probably looking for is closer to hipster, though most hams dont qualify for that either, perhaps fanboi is a better choice. /snark off Matt W8ESE On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Jack Brabham k...@att.net wrote: Phil, No anger with Elecraft, they are my favorite ham company, and I'm quite proud of my K3 even if it did take months of research and hair pulling to figure out how to get a decent output from it on SSB. I am concerned, based on the KPA500 rumors, that Elecraft may be deliberately pricing themselves out of the average ham's range. The Oh, it cost so much to produce a product in the USA! argument doesn't hold water either. Where do you suppose MFJ's are made? Or for that matter the K3? I'm thinking that if them old southern boys at MFJ can make a /decent /amp for around $2/watt, the folks at Elecraft ought to be able to make a /great /amp for about the same money. They definitely smoked Yaesu and Icom on value postion with the K3. FWIW Stupid Yuppies, in my book, would be those folks who are willing to pay twice what something is actually worth just for a label, or for the joy of owning the most expensive. 73 Jack KZ5A K3 #4165 On 9/9/2010 9:46 AM, Phil Townsend wrote: Ewww, Jack You are soo mean... Stupid Yuppies... Come on Jack, why so angry at a great USA company that ACTUALLY builds some great products? Phil Santa Fe __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT: ROCKWELL automation at Dayton
turbo encabulator was better. Matt W8ESE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2AT to QRP Cover!
If you can melt solder you can build an elecraft kit, even 'roids are easier than everyone makes them out to be (though they can be the most time consuming part of the kitbuilding.) Matt W8ESE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Slightly OT: K2 Sales Targeted
K2 is actually derived from plant fertilizer... the more you know. (kids are dumb) Matt W8ESE On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Al Gulseth wb5...@centurytel.net wrote: (I thought the readers of this reflector might get a chuckle out of the title of this article in the local newspaper yesterday. No, it's not about the draconian Radio Police: seems as how the K2 in this instance is a substance that (shall we say) is apparently being used as a mood enhancer. However, as I consider things carefully, what we associate with the term K2 could also be said to serve as a mood enhancer during construction and operation. Uh-oh) Times Record: K2 Sales Targeted http://www.swtimes.com/news/article_da8235c0-5c42-11df-88b6-001cc4c002e0.html 73, Al __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Programmer's Reference iPhone App Available
Think your better off with a netbook for that kind of stuff, ipad doesn't have i/o at all, no audio input and a fairly limited processor, its more of a dumb tablet for web browsing and running little apps. And for the price, you could pick up 3 netbooks and put whatever flavor of *nix or windows on it that you like (even os x). Not to say tablets dont have potential but currently they seem to be little more than internet 'appliances'. Matt W8ESE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Programmer's Reference iPhone App Available
And then an app needs to be written that supports all that, I'll still stick to cheap available hardware over vapor ware myself. And wait until tablets come into their own (again, I had an original newton too bad they didn't take off with that). I do suppose someone has to be a trail blazer. Matt W8ESE On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Kok Chen c...@mac.com wrote: On Apr 29, 2010, at 4/29 9:26 AM, Matt Palmer wrote: ... ipad doesn't have i/o at all, no audio input... You are probably not aware that the iPad's Camera Connection Kit supports a USB Class Compliant sound card. 73 Chen, W7AY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500
Switching supply can do much better than 50% efficiency, I've designed several for use in PA's that are close to 95% efficient. The dominating inefficiency is usually in the PA Matt W8ESE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 active devices!!
Well said tom, an often overlooked aspect is the angle of the mismatch, load pull is the only way to tell, while a 3:1 resitive is not to harsh, very few things will survive a 3:1 at an inductive reactance angle. Load pull is the only way to be sure, and I would be uncomfortable making any claims until such a test has been done. Matt W8ESE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Testing anti-static mats - found one that works
How are you measuring resistance? Matt W8ESE On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Alan Bloom a...@elecraft.com wrote: It is important to use an anti-static mat to prevent damage to electronic devices when working on solid-state equipment. Since Elecraft is heavily kit-oriented this is a topic of interest for Elecrafters. Quite some time ago I did some testing on the Radio Shack portable anti-static mat and found that its resistance was way too high to do a proper job of bleeding off static charges. I then bought another low-cost mat from Jameco and it also measured way too high. I began to doubt my testing methodology (described in a previous message, copied below). So now I have bought a third mat. This one is more expensive, but unlike the cheaper mats it has an actual data sheet that specifies that it meets ANSI specs for anti-static performance. I figured if it also measured bad then my testing must be in error. But it didn't. Here are the results: Radio Shack P/N 276-2370 ($22.99) - 26 G ohms (26,000 M ohms) Jameco P/N 10584 ($16.45) - 44 G ohms (44,000 M ohms) Digi-Key P/N 16-1121-ND, (Desco 66164) ($38.18) - 41 M ohms The Desco mat's resistance is about 1000x lower than the cheaper ones! This mat is quite large, (2 x 3 feet, 61 x 91.4 cm) so if you buy one you may need to cut it down to fit on your workbench. It comes with a common point ground kit (that you have to install on the mat yourself) that provides a long wire with solder lug to connect to ground and a two-socket connector for connecting one or two wrist straps. The wrist strap and cord have to be purchased separately. It looks like Digi-Key P/N SCP172-ND for $8.95 should work. So the total cost is about $47. But the cheap mats are no bargain if they don't work. I tried cleaning the surface of the mats with some wipes that are especially intended for cleaning anti-static mats (Digi-Key MTT20-ND) and they did help. The Radio Shack mat went from 26 to 6 Gohms and the Jameco went from 44 to about 12 Gohms. But those numbers are still way too high. The Desco mat's resistance also went down, from 41 to 20 Mohms. The Desco mat came with a small spray bottle of Rezstore, their own brand of mat cleaner. By the way, the back side of the Desco mat is some kind of highly-conductive black rubber, apparently to keep the entire mat surface at equal potential. They warn that you should always use it blue side up because the resistance of the back side is too low. Sure enough, it was low enough to measure with my digital multimeter - about 80 kohms. So my recommendation is to buy a mat such as the Desco model that has a data sheet that specifies that it meets ANSI/ESD S4.1 or ANSI/ESD S20.20. If you already have the Radio Shack mat, then either replace it or at least clean it with a cleaner approved for ESD mats. (You're not supposed to use soap or detergent because it might harm the anti-static properties.) Gary KI4GGX recommends a product made by Techspray: http://www.all-spec.com/products/1733-QT.html Whatever you use, it is important to keep the mat clean. A word about my test procedure. Accuracy is not very good because I am trying to read the peak amplitude of a brief needle flicker. If I had an analog meter with a high-impedance input that would work better because the reading wouldn't change so fast. Also my sauce pans no doubt do not give the same answer as the ANSI-specified test probes. So overall, I doubt my measurement accuracy is better than +/- 50% or so. But for the purposes of this test that's good enough. In the test procedure below I had to substitute a 1.0 uF capacitor when measuring the Tesco mat in order to get a long-enough time constant to measure accurately. (Also, it's actually a Triplett meter, not a Simpson.) Alan N1AL On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 09:51 -0800, Alan Bloom wrote: Well, I've convinced myself that the Radio Shack portable ESD mat, P/N 276-2370 doesn't work properly. The ESD Association http://www.esda.org has promulgated an industry-standard test for ESD mats, ESD S4.1. It is the standard specified by most commercial mats. I decided not to spring for the $70 to buy a copy of the standard, but other information I found on the web describes the test in general terms. It uses two circular electrodes, each weighted with 5 pounds, spaced 10 inches apart on the mat. The Point to Point Resistance is specified to be: At 40-60% RH: 10^6 - 10^7 ohms At 20-40% RH: 10^7 - 10^8 ohms At 10-20% RH: 10^8 - 10^9 ohms I don't know what the RH here in Santa Rosa was yesterday when I did the test, but I don't think it was very low since it has been raining recently and the ground is still damp. For sure the resistance shouldn't be below 10^9 ohms (1 gigohm) and probably more like 10^8 or 10^7 (100 or 10 megohms). I measured 2.5 x 10^10 ohms (25 gigohms), which puts the Radio Shack mat way out of spec. Test
Re: [Elecraft] OT Sound Card and USB to Serial Port Hub
If you need more slots then build a real computer. Shouldn't be too hard to get a case and a motherboard that will support whatever processor and ram you have, with more pci/pciE slots to make the upgrade cheaply. Matt W8ESE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT Sound Card and USB to Serial Port Hub
My observation is that the motherboards for desktop/tower computers are having less and less slots as time goes by. Most certainly not true, in fact the trend is going the other way, with some of the newer mobo's designed to support 4x graphics cards in parallell, they have more slots, all depends on which board you buy, full ATX or extendedATX will have the plethera of slots. I have linked to one below with 7 PCIx slots, if you do some searching you can find something that would suit your needs. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131390 Matt W8ESE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Bare Foot
Foot straps are pretty common , but are useless unless you have conductive floors (always get in arguments with QA as my lab has non conductive floors, and they want to get rid of all the chairs without draggers). Matt W8ESE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Are K3 boards built overseas?
most die comes out of shenzen or malaysia. Packages are usually korea, assembly and testing happens everywhere for components, places like TI and IR have fabs in the states still, but not all of their parts come out of them. Matt W8ESE sent from my VIC-20 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Amps
David, there is no reason they couldn't package it with the PA other than input source differences. If its a single platform, or use PA, we will include power conditioning with it. The cases where we dont the PA is used on multiple platforms and has to run from 1275, 704, 400 cycle, 3 phase etc. And it makes sense for the power conditioner to be a platform independent kit. If you look at most radios as well, they require the power supply external so you have the choice depending on where you are plugging it in or if you are running of batteries. Matt W8ESE On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:51 PM, David Cutter d.cut...@ntlworld.com wrote: There must be a really good reason why amplifiers don't use on-board switching supplies to get the weight and size down even further. An awful lot of folks are using rigs powered by switchers which are obviously quiet enough. Ameritron is an exception, but it's still outboard. Perhaps an Elecraft amplifier would be good for dxpeditioners just as is the K3, ie concentration on light weight and performance. David G3UNA On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 08:33 -0600, Bob Naumann wrote: As an alternative, the Acom 1000 using a tube final (for those who prefer valves in their final) is similar in price/output, but it is manually tuned and runs about 1k out on all bands 160 through 6m. I have (heavily) used my Acom1000 for nearly 9 years now. It works great with my K3 on all bands. It is a full QSK amp. I have also used it for 6m EME I have had a few small issues with the Acom over the years, in each case Acom's support was both speedy and superb -- 73 Brendan EI6IZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2: winding T5
The solder blob method takes a little trick, you have to sit on the end of the wire long enough for the insulation to melt (heat has to transfer to the wire). I usually just scrape with a xacto these days and then tin, I think it is cleaner and easier than solder blob. When I built my K2 I used a lighter to burn the insulation and sandpaper to clean it up. It is just as effective. Matt W8ESE On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:31 AM, lstavenhagen lstavenha...@hotmail.com wrote: Ok, thanks Don. I feel kind of guilty because seems like I should have a bunch more questions. But I'm just not having that much trouble so far. even grounding the crystal cans went pretty smoothly hi hi once I read all the suggestions on how to do it (tin the cans first! Then hold the ground leads in place by putting a spare anti-static pad leftover from the IC's under the board and sticking them into it through the grounding holes). As for tinning the toroid leads, I did find that the solder blob method was ineffective. Perhaps a 700F tip just doesn't get hot enough to melt the insulation? Instead, I'm sanding the leads first with a bit of sandpaper to get the stuff mostly off then tinning. This gives a very nice tin on the wires and good solder connection on the board. Is this meant to be done with an 800F or hotter tip? Thanks es 73, LS -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K2-winding-T5-tp4531587p4535190.html Sent from the [K2] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Panadapter Setup for K2 - Where can I read-up on this? Goos source for advice?
check here for softrocks. http://www.kb9yig.com/ they are still in high demand so you may have to check daily to see when more are added. Matt W8ESE On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Dean, The plan for the P3 as I have heard it is to also support the K2 IF, and I cannot recall if the LP-PAN is available with an IF input to match the K2 IF. You would need a buffer amplifier added to your K2 to bring the IF signal out. There is a version of Jack Smith's Z1 buffer amplifier kit just for that purpose. Check http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/z1_buffer_amp.htm for more information. You will also find on that same page that you can use a Softrock receiver to produce the panoramic display on a computer display rather than a P3 or LP-PAN if that less expensive alternative appeals to you. (I don't know how many SoftRock 6.2 boards Tony Parks has available, but you can ask). 73, Don W3FPR Dean wrote: I am looking for a source for good advice to set up a panadaper, software etc for the K2. Best to get/build, how to set it up etc. Thanks in advance for your help! Dean __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.134/2613 - Release Date: 01/11/10 02:35:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] My Predicament
Anyone else get this mail from the elecraft list? Its spam/scam. Can the mods do something to plug their holes. THX. On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Rick Klingensmith kling...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Happy new year! How you doing? We made a trip to London (United Kingdom) unannounced some days back, Unfortunately we got mugged at gun point last night! All cash, Credit cards and phone were stolen, we got messed up in another country, stranded in London, fortunately passport was back in my hotel room. It was a bitter experience and i was hurt on my right hand, but would be fine. I am sending you this message cos i don't want anyone to panic, we want you to keep it that way for now! Our return flight leaves in a few hours but I’m having troubles sorting out the hotel bills, wondering if you could loan me some money to sort out the hotel bills and also take a cab to the airport about ($1,500). I have been to the police and embassy here, but they aren't helping issues, I have limited means of getting out of here, we canceled our cards already and made a police report, I won’t get a new card number till I get back home! So I really need your help. You could wire whatever you can spare to my name and Location via Western union, below is all you need: Name - Rick Klingensmith Location - London, United Kingdom. I still have my passport so I can use it as identification, email me the transfer details and the confirmation # would def refund it to you once we arrive hopefully tomorrow. I await your reply soon. Regards __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
know this topic is closed but I would like to point out, I buy stuff from japan all the time for martial arts (kendo) It is cheaper for me in the USA to buy stuff from japan than it is for a Japanese person in japan (significantly so, sometimes as much as 50% cheaper) because I dont have to pay their equivalent of VAT. It is all relative. Matt W8ESE On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:57 AM, David Yarnes w7...@cox.net wrote: Somebody is double counting (or triple counting) what is shown on the PDF. Probably confusing since the description is in japanese. They are showing, I presume, a model as a kit, and then as a pre-built unit, etc. It looks like the basic 10 watt kit is around 300,000 yen, which is something like $3,000, but that's before other add-ons. Anyway, a K3, fully loaded, is nowhere near $21,000 for a japanese buyer! Nonetheless, it does add up to a significantly higher cost than we pay here in the U.S. Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: Tom Hammond n...@embarqmail.com To: Hector Padron ad4c2...@yahoo.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Hector: According to several currency calculators: 2,014,200 JPY = $21,983.0832 USD Whew. 73, Tom N0SS At 09:38 01/05/2010, you wrote: WOW ! according that pdf document(http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf) If we add all the modules and filters price for a fully loaded K3,it will cost in japan 2,014,200 (two million fourteen thousand two hundred)yens,can anyone say how many USD is that amount,sounds like a lot AD4C For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3 --- On Mon, 1/4/10, Fumiaki Okushi fumi...@okushi.com wrote: From: Fumiaki Okushi fumi...@okushi.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 9:25 PM From: Hector Padron ad4c2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:51:18 -0800 (PST) WOW ! Hard to believe,then I imagine a fully loaded K3 will be then over 5 grands in japan with that dealer EDC? You can find the price list for K3 (and accessories) at http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf Note that the pdf includes Japanese so parts of the page may not render properly depending on the pdf reader you may have.. Regards, Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
Need to learn to count there hector, that number seems a bit high based on my calculation more like 6-7k. 1 yen roughly equals $0.01. So not so much. I think you added multiple K3's in there, if you just added up all the colums. The price is even lower if you dont get factory built. Matt W8ESE 心正即刀正 On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Tom Hammond n...@embarqmail.com wrote: Hector: According to several currency calculators: 2,014,200 JPY = $21,983.0832 USD Whew. 73, Tom N0SS At 09:38 01/05/2010, you wrote: WOW ! according that pdf document(http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf) If we add all the modules and filters price for a fully loaded K3,it will cost in japan 2,014,200 (two million fourteen thousand two hundred)yens,can anyone say how many USD is that amount,sounds like a lot AD4C For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3 --- On Mon, 1/4/10, Fumiaki Okushi fumi...@okushi.com wrote: From: Fumiaki Okushi fumi...@okushi.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 9:25 PM From: Hector Padron ad4c2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:51:18 -0800 (PST) WOW ! Hard to believe,then I imagine a fully loaded K3 will be then over 5 grands in japan with that dealer EDC? You can find the price list for K3 (and accessories) at http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf Note that the pdf includes Japanese so parts of the page may not render properly depending on the pdf reader you may have.. Regards, Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA100
Don, Gold embrittlement is still a problem, and we have a chem egr dept that spends a great deal of their time analyzing gold plated parts to determine if we need to either slim down the gold plate or possible dip the IC's to avoid these issues. Matt W8ESE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adaptor
Usb can be a noisy thing, there are many reasons you wouldnt want it inside the radio Not to mention the exercise in writing drivers alone is herculean. Matt W8ESE On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Phil Hystad k7...@comcast.net wrote: Actually, I was confused about the KUSB option. I actually thought it was a built-in USB port and when I learned it was merely a serial to USB connector and cable I then scratched the KUSB off of my budding proposed configuration. This is because I have a number of such serial to USB cables and certainly I would find one that would work. So, I am putting my vote in on a future option to integrate a built-in USB port instead of, or in addition to, the serial port. I understand that there are still quite a few ham operators that operate with yesterday's computer technology and may not even have USB capability. I am on the other side, I have no serial port capability on any of my computers (all Apple mac and one Windows 7 laptop). phil, K7PEH P.S. I hope to put in my K3 order before Christmas. I won't have the time to put it together until January anyway so I will have to wait a bit. On Nov 20, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Bob Maser wrote: Why doesn't the design team at Elecraft incorporate a USB port on the back of the K3 instead of the outdated serial port? They could offer a kit that would use the hole that is now labeled RS232. There might be room for 2 USB ports or mini ports. Bob Maser W6TR (waiting for Elecraft to repair my new K3) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Kits
while I had access to sophisticated test equipment I built my K2 in a hotel room with a DMM i got for free from a sales creature and a norcal smt dummy load kit. I dont think you even need the DMM for the K2 because it has one built in. Matt W8ESE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 MTBF
Such a number is really meaningless to an amateur and without information on the method in which it was computed. Matt W8ESE On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 1:39 PM, rfenab...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know the MTBF of the K3...? Gary K3 ser# 679 VK4WT/P Sent via BlackBerry® from Telstra __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT: a quick question about solder
Military will always use lead solder, it is the easiest way for wider pitch parts to self mitigate for tin whiskers. Matt W8ESE 心正即刀正 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:54 AM, d.cut...@ntlworld.com wrote: Hi Paul I think it will soon be impossible to buy any electronic apparatus built using machine soldering that is NOT RoHS compliant. That will cover all manufacturing: amateur, professional, domestic, military. The manufacture of parts has swung that way and soldering baths have been re-filled with lead-free solder. Anything not lead-free must be made on a separate production line and it will soon be uneconomic to run two lines in the same factory because the parts will not be available. I think you will have a tough time finding a manufacturer who can tell you they do not use RoHS components. Of course if they have stock left over, you have a chance, but that can only be on older designs. All new designs will use RoHS-compliant parts. Pretty much all of EU is now RoHS and we buy most of our parts from the East. I don't know the situation in the US but I can't see them being able to make a non-RoHS compliant product when the big eastern suppliers turn to RoHS compliance. I am intrigued to know what it is about the RoHS process that you don't like. David G3UNA paul alexander wb9...@gmail.com wrote: Before purchasing my K3, I e-mailed Elecraft and specifically asked if the K3 was built on a RoHS process. I was told that units destined for the US were built using leaded solder. My concern was that I did not want a radio built using a RoHS process and this was a reason for purchasing the K3 rather than something else. I hope I was not given incorrect information. Paul Alexander wb9ipa __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] W1 Circuit Board
ENIG is better but unless its class 3 equipment it doesnt make much difference Matt W8ESE Former KD8DAO On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Brett Howardbr...@livecomputers.com wrote: I thought the RoHS compliant stuff that Elecraft is doing was all in the ENIG process. I've ordered a K1 and a K3 since RoHS and all the boards are ENIG. Perhaps for the W1 they are using IMAg? I should explain: ENIG = Electroless Nickel Immersion Gold (or gold pads) or IMAg = Immersion Silver (or silver (whiteish) pads) For the record both have their pluses and minuses such as the IMAg is more susceptibile to oxidization and other cleaning issues (cleaning when the boards are made) where as ENIG is usually less often plagued by cleaning issues however contamination in the process can lead to whats referred to as black pads. ENIG costs a little more and is generally accepted as slightly better. Probably mostly because of the higher cost. ;) ~BTH On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 19:52 -0400, Don Wilhelm wrote: David, I believe that is one version of the RoHS compliant solder pads. 73, Don W3FPR David Heinsohn wrote: I just started working on the W1. So I just really looked at the circuit board. I noticed that the pads seem to be white rather than silver or gold. So all you bright folks can tell me what's different and why. I assume that this is a new and better way to produce a board. It certanly takes solder OK. TNX de KD0R David __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Looking for a good battery/charging system for K1
If cost is not an issue, look into A123 battery packs, either thru buddipole or hfprojects, or you could order cells and roll your own. Matt W8ESE On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Michael Babineaumbabin...@magma.ca wrote: John : Here is a few battery suggestions for your portable K1 station. If you want 5W you will need a 12V+ pack. If you are willing to settle for about 3w out the K1 will hum along nicely at 9 to 10V. It is quite a miserly rig so you can easily manage a day outing with battery capacity in the range of 2 to 3 Ah. I use a couple of different packs depending on the circumstances. My suggestions : 1) a small sealed lead acid (aka GEL-Cell) battery in the range of 2 to 3 Ah - Walmart also sells a good little charger for SLAs for about $25 called the EverStart Battery Companion (1.5Amp trickle charger). It is actually a 3-stage smart charger perfect for SLAs that are = 2Ah. 2) 9v (actually closer to about 10.5V when fully charged) R/C NiMH battery packs The Radio Control packs you should be able to get at Radio Shack along with the proper charger. Radio Shack usually sells a combo pack with a charger (part 23-432) for about $20. These packs are in the 1500 to 1700 mAh range. If you go this route I suggest you buy a 2nd pack so you have a backup. Another good idea is to cut the leads on the pack and solder appropriately rated pico-fuses on both leads (these look like resistors) then put heat-shrink tubing over them and tape the leads against the body of the pack with electrical tape (the pic-fuses are a bit fragile so you don't want break them). (Hint, these packs also fit inside a FT-817 and make a good cheap internal battery for that rig.) 3) Go with rechargeable AA cells. You can buy 8 and 10 cell holders depending on what voltage you want (note that NiMHs are nominally about 1.2V when fully charged). You can find lots of these at WalMart, Radio Shack etc, along with 4 cell quick chargers. I would go with a reputable name (ie Duracell etc) rather than the no-name ones and try to buy cells that are in the 2000 mAh range. Note that the K1 will tolerate up to about 15V in so you can use a 10 cell holder if you are using NiMH rechargables. In practice I have found that a 10 cell holder with NiMHs will give 13+ V when fully charged which is perfect. For safety reasons, (both yours and the rig) I strongly recommend that you fuse whatever battery solution you decide on and don't forget that you need to be careful with NiMH packs as these batteries can generate a very very high current for a short period of time if shorted out. Needless to say this can result in burns or even an explosion. Best of luck Michael VE3WMB / VA2NB P.S. Another related idea. I standardized my QRP power connections on a 2 pin Molex connector (polarized). Most of my battery packs have a short pigtail with the female version of this Molex and I have a slightly longer length of wire that is fused and has the male Molex on one end and the appropriate coaxial power connector that fits into the K1. This allows me some flexibility in how I power my K1. For instance I have a cigarette lighter plug that has the female Molex so I can use this adaptor to plug my K1 into the cigarette lighter jack in my car if I want to operate from the car. For some of my otherQRP rigs like the ATS3 that have a different power connector I just made up a fused power cord that has the male Molex on it so I can use any of the battery options that I already have for the K1. I found that this modular approach works very well. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT: transistor theory flaw
I disagree, the experts are always right, its just the people who are claiming to be an 'expert' are not always so. I hear this in a commencement speach this year keep a healthy disregard for the impossible and all engineers should have this. This 'flaw' in transistor theory only presents itself in high density IC if you read the article, and I would suspect it has to do with no longer being able to follow partical theory, which is what works for discrete transistors, soon as things get small enough, wave theory takes over, and common conventions are no longer valid, however maxwells equations always apply to both... its just the terms you ignored in certain cases start to become significant. I would bet this follows the press release model found here: http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1174 and some liberties are being taken with interpretation. Matt W8ESE Former KD8DAO http://blog.MattIsKichigai.com On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Sandyebj...@charter.net wrote: This reminds me of Major Edwin Armstrong's saying he used so much, especially when he was told by Crosby that wideband FM would not be practical. Amstrong retorted to himself with It's what we know that ain't always so! (or something very close to that.) I have seen phenomena regarding grounding of marine transmitters and presence of RF in strange places where it should not be MANY TIMES. Also other things regarding feeders and antennas on ships that would not work as advrtised, or as the engineers claimed they would! I still have one occurnce of something that happened during trouble shooting of a 35' shipboard vertical with a top hat that occurred on the 425-515 Khz. band nobody yet has given me a valid explanation for. The experts are not always even close to right all the time! 73, Sandy W5TVW - Original Message - From: Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz To: 'Elecraft Group' elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: transistor theory flaw Tnx Mike. It reminds me that vacuum tube theory wasn't understood for many years after they were developed. Shoot, here in the USA DeForest thought a vacuum tube *needed* some gas to work properly (and his tubes all had abysmally low gain as a result). If what the learned experts knew was right, Marconi would never have been successful. For decades they had stated that electromagnetic (radio) waves were useless for communications over any significant distance. What everyone knows, including everything we learned in school, is always open to question. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- I just read this short article and thought many on the list might find it interesting: http://eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=NQXUQGBIEWGHCQSN DLRSKH0CJUNN2JVN?articleID=217600659 If that URL gets broken, here is a smaller url to the same: http://tinyurl.com/o4cwpj 73, Mike ab3ap __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.43/2139 - Release Date: 05/28/09 08:10:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Oscilloscopes
I would stay away from early hp digitals, they are nothing but trouble, just take my word on this one, you are better off with a 2430 (might have dyslexic on the number) The new digital lunchboxes are nice too, and if you know what you are doing you have no problems, I attribute the 'old timers' being wary of them to not knowing how to properly use them. Since I grew up with a infiinium, i've never had a problem seeing and removing aliasing errors and others, but you have to have a decent sense for what to expect to see, and know which way to turn what knobs to make it look right. (like adjusting sample rate etc.) Matt W8ESE Former KD8DAO http://blog.MattIsKichigai.com On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Alan Bloomn...@cds1.net wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 08:13 -0700, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: I agree with Don, I like analog scopes. Any time a signal is taken to bits (literally!) and then reassembled there are display artifacts and some accuracy of the waveform is lost but, you're quite right, analog scopes are *big* and heavy. I also dislike most digital oscilloscopes. On most of them, it is obvious that the user interface was designed by a software person, hot a hardware engineer. I hate having to search through multiple layers of menus to access some simple function. However, the HP54600-series oscilloscopes are different. They combine the advantages of digital with the look and feel of an analog scope. There are separate knobs for all the most-used functions. The design team was lead by Bob Witte K0NR who knows a thing or two about what a hardware engineer wants in an oscilloscope. HP/Agilent no longer sells the 546XX, but you can occasionally find one on the used market. Scanning down the list on Ebay I see an HP54620A (version with built-in logic analyzer) with a starting bid of $200, two 54610B's (500 MHz, dual channel) starting at $700 and $725, HP54600A with optional GPIB module $500, etc. Again, good digital scopes are the more expensive scopes. Generally true. I bought mine brand new (with employee discount) some years ago and have never regretted it. For once in my life, it's nice to have a no-compromise, reliable piece of test equipment. By the way, if you do decide on analog, the HP1740 100 MHz scope is a very good choice. (Much better than most of the analog scopes HP came out with over the years.) They often show up on Ebay. Al N1AL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft stuff (surface mount)
I dont think SMT is that bad, then again I am young, when I brought this up to a ham I met at FDIM he told me he is blind in one eye and has more than 3db on me in age, so there are no excuses, its like mike fright but with building, just try them sometime. I find smt is easier to work with than thru hole IMHO. Matt W8ESE Former KD8DAO http://blog.MattIsKichigai.com On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Brett Gazdzinskibrett.gazdzin...@verizon.net wrote: I could do surface mount, I would think some aspects of it is easier, but its hard to see the values on some through hole parts in the k2, and figuring out what parts go where in something like a K2 kit would NOT be fun I think I almost needed a microscope for some K2 parts as it is... Brett N2DTS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA-200
a external 200-400 watt amp is a fairly trivial design, if you want one order some parts and get building. You could do this with a couple 813's for pretty low cost, or solid state for a bit more money. I'm surprised how many people sit on their rear end and complain about this or that product not existing, and how elecraft should design one for them. Start acting like hams and try rolling your own, you have complete control over the feature set you want then. If you are unwilling to do this, I think you have no business clogging the reflector with your criticisms and wish lists, why not keep the posts on topic to actual elecraft products, their building, and troubleshooting. /end rant. Matt W8ESE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Price promo on K3 at Dayton?
charging state tax, totally bogus IMHO, Hendricks was doing the same thing, must be a california thing. Matt W8ESE Former KD8DAO http://blog.MattIsKichigai.com On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 8:01 PM, David Wilburn dave.wilb...@verizon.net wrote: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-or-SDR-5000--td457400.html http://n2.nabble.com/SDR---K3---and-GUI-Interface-td447927.html You can do all kinds of flexible searches here; http://n2.nabble.com/Elecraft-f365791.html Flexible, he he, too funny, I made a punny. Dave Wilburn NM4M David Christ wrote: Please summarize the differences in philosophy that you noticed. David K0LUM Adam Koczarski wrote Also heard Lyle talk about the K3 as an SDR. Basically what I heard at the presentation he gave at his house last year. Prior to Lyle's presentation there was a presentation about the Flex. Differing philosophies were apparent. Maybe a few barbs back and forth. :) Adam - K3ARK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 KPA3 Fan Upgrade Question
I wonder if elecraft actually does thermal and vibrational stress analysis, I've always been curious what the natural frequency of my K2 is, as well as what the rise from board to chassis is in a 71C environment :) Matt W8ESE On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:16 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk wrote: I don't understand why you are looking to upgrade over the std spec - surely elecraft have considered all the possibilities of ambient temp to run in - unless of course you are operation in an oven? :-) -- Study without desire spoils the memory, and it retains nothing that it takes in. -- Leonardo da Vinci On 13 May 2009, at 13:11, Brian Binkley wrote: Hello, I am currently in the process of upgrading the fans for the KPA3 100 Watt Amplifier module because the heatsink temperature gets too high for my liking. I am upgrading both fans to a fan with higher CFM output. Last night I hooked both fans up to the KPAIO module to test and see if they will work. When I am on fan power level one, the fans try to but are unable to start up. I have to bump them to start them spinning. Power level two has no problem spinning them up. When I went to power level four and then brought the power level to one, the fans did not have any problem continuing running. The fan specs can be found here http://www.sundialmicro.com/ipcqueen_dc_fan_606010_ball_bearing_3pin_2033_1199.html . Is there any components that I can add in line to provide the necessary power to start the fans up at power level one? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KSB2 Setup issue
Got my KSB2 to the point where I am running the BFO setup for LSB/USB, i get all the way thru setting the LSB/BF!t frequency, I hit band- to return to the BFO parameter display, but when i hit mode to change the mode I am getting an info 230 message, and they K2 kicks me out of the menu without saving the settings. Not sure where to go from here, guidance would be appreciated. Matt W8ESE Former KD8DAO http://blog.MattIsKichigai.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KSB2 Setup issue
Discovered my freq counter probe is intermittent, trying to fix, but ordered a new one from elecraft just in case, guess i'll have to shelve the k2 until the new one arrives. Matt W8ESE Former KD8DAO http://blog.MattIsKichigai.com On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Matt Palmer kd8...@gmail.com wrote: Got my KSB2 to the point where I am running the BFO setup for LSB/USB, i get all the way thru setting the LSB/BF!t frequency, I hit band- to return to the BFO parameter display, but when i hit mode to change the mode I am getting an info 230 message, and they K2 kicks me out of the menu without saving the settings. Not sure where to go from here, guidance would be appreciated. Matt W8ESE Former KD8DAO http://blog.MattIsKichigai.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K2 for sale
It looks like I need to unload my second K2 to fund other Ham radio things (darn this is an expensive hobby) K2 S/N 4740, including: KAT2 Ant Tuner and KNB2 Noise Blanker $625 Shipped to US Matt W8ESE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] I need your help...Spammer
conficker doesnt do anything yet, it has the potential to be a spambot net, but it hasnt done anything except phone home so far. Matt W8ESE Former KD8DAO http://blog.MattIsKichigai.com On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 7:46 AM, David Wilburn dave.wilb...@verizon.net wrote: There is a very bad bug out now, one of many that preys specifically on systems that are not patched. I think we are seeing the result of people not keeping their system patched, or using older OS's that are no longer patched by MS. Bad MS, no cookie! How often have you heard someone say, I stopped letting Windows update my machine, it keeps messing it up. Conflicter was already out in 4 strains, and as it becomes more successful, it will be re-written to do more, thus it will likely mutate. Dave Wilburn NM4M Thom LaCosta wrote: At 06:53 AM 04/08/09, Don Wilhelm wrote: Paul is a valid member of this reflector. But notice the undisclosed recipients. I would believe his computer has picked up a virus that is using his email contact list. Of course someone could contact him and ask if he sent it. If he did, then it would end the speculation on the list If he did not, then he might realize his system was infected or We could keep on posting and wondering and conjuring reasons. 73, Thom k3hrn Sometimes the simplest approach is the one that works __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] BL-2 Connection To An Unbalanced Wire Antenna
Ahh now you are no longer talking about RF ground but the black art of EMI. Its not to difficult to determine RF ground, you have to have very good spatial visualization, the ability to hold the 3D model of the board, chassis and housing in your head, and you need to think like an electron. It takes practice, but being relatively inexperienced i've gotten the hang of it after being involved in the successful design of 2 radios, but then again I have fantastic mentors and elmers. In the end everything is explained by Maxwell's equations and if 1/10th of the ham population took the time to understand how these fantastic formula work and what they mean, 99% of this confusion and most of the half truths you see passed around as 'common knowledge' would disappear. Matt W8ESE Former KD8DAO http://blog.MattIsKichigai.com On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Jack Brindle jackbrin...@earthlink.net wrote: I have to agree with Jim on this one. Perhaps the biggest concept drilled into me by the RF engineers I worked with at Motorola (I was a digital/software/comm engineer) is that there is no such thing as RF ground. RF can, and is, conducted on any path that it wants. This is especially true for the so-called ground and power paths, which while appearing to be well bypassed, still will carry RF currents. The problem was really drilled home when I had to track down a problem with a 450 MHz handheld data transceiver being desensed. The cause was the 250th harmonic of the microcontroller main clock, which placed a 14 uV signal on the receiver input. The signal was being conducted on the system ground, including shielding, and into the receiver front-end. How do you solve it? Shift the crystal frequency when on problematic channels. So, while the concept of a common ground which carries no signals may be an interesting one, in practice it simply does not exist. - Jack Brindle, W6FB. -Original Message- From: Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz Sent: Apr 1, 2009 2:00 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] BL-2 Connection To An Unbalanced Wire Antenna Jim, IMX it's a mistake to equate RF ground with an Earth connection. An RF ground is just a low-impedance, low-reactance current sink for RF. Of course it is an integral part of the antenna circuit. An RF ground would not be expected to radiate, and most counterpoise or radial setups don't radiate a significant amount of energy*: 1) Counterpoises near the Earth and on-ground radials tend to couple all their energy into the lossy dielectric of the Earth, never to be seen again. This is how BCB stations achieve a good RF ground generally using 120 0.2 wavelength radials around their towers to couple the RF into the Earth. 2) Elevated radials will radiate a lot unless they are carefully balanced and symmetrical so legs produce RF fields that cancel each other outside of the immediate area of the antenna. Such radials, like any RF ground, *are* part of the antenna circuit but, when properly designed, they are a non-radiating current sink. In the common ground plane designs, they also decouple the radiating element from the feed line, providing an RF ground not only for the radiator but also grounding the feed line at the antenna so RF currents don't flow down the outside of the coax shield. Ron AC7AC * Students have asked me what happens if they use only one radial with a 1/4 wave antenna. I reply that if they make it 1/4 wave long, then elevate them both into the air and arrange them to run in opposite directions for maximum efficiency, one 'radial' works just fine. If they draw out the antenna I described on paper they'll recognize the common center fed dipole antenna. In that case, there's no problem with the radial radiating. -Original Message- On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:43:39 -0700, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: But it *IS* a ground for RF purposes Nope! It has NO relationship with the earth, nor is one needed. This use of the word ground is an ongoing source of confusion and misunderstandings. Hams to go extremes to install ground rods, thinking that it will improve the performance of their antennas or make their radios quieter or fix RFI. A connection to earth does NOT do any of those things. It IS critical for lightning protection. That's all. Radials are not GROUND in any sense. They are part of the antenna! Indeed, their purpose is to intercept the fields produced by the antenna and by providing a low resistance path for return currents, prevent those fields from producing current in the lossy earth. There is an excellent discussion of this by Rudy Severns, N6LF, both in the ARRL Antenna Book and on his website. 73, Jim Brown K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support
Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Crystal heater for better stability???
I'm a general dummy, but I dont think that simply adding a heater will do what you want, but then again when i think of stability my brain usually thinks of 0.5ppb over a 20year life of a radio. Matt W8ESE Former KD8DAO http://blog.MattIsKichigai.com On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:26 AM, Mike-WE0H w...@yahoo.com wrote: Has anyone added a crystal heater to their K2? If I would add a heater to my K2, what oscillator would be the best one to do it to or should I heat both the 4mc the 12.xx mc crystals? The radio is decent as is but I am used to zero drift when I work the Part 5 Experimental bands with my other radio's. I want to make my K2 very stable as it will be used on those bands. Many thanks, Mike WE0H K2 6698 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Bose noise canceling headphones
I tried a pair in a bose store and was unimpressed, cant turn the gain up enough, so I built my own, they are a safety hazard now :) Matt W8ESE On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Darwin, Keith keith.dar...@goodrich.com wrote: A lot of guys here at work have the Bose NC headphones to try to cancel out nearby office noise. I suspect they work OK in that application and no better. Doesn't Bose have a liberal return policy? You could answer your own question by ordering a pair and seeing if they work for you. If not, ship them back for a refund. I use a pair of $100 Sony over the ear headphones with my K3. They're not noise cancelling but they do reduce the background noise enough to be worth having. - Keith N1AS - - K3 711 - -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of dw I've always wondered how well Bose noise cancelling phones worked. Do they really cancel noise external to the head-set? There are times when I have trouble with noises in the house, and I would love it if the head-phones could totally cancel all that out. But not sure how far advertised is from reality :) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Your thoughts on EMP and protecting K3/K2
all you need for a NED is a scr, the more tactful approach is to characterize the die's response to being irradiated and created irradiated vs normal models and play it all in simulink, all depends on how much the customer wants to spend for FEMECA Matt W8ESE Former KD8DAO http://blog.MattIsKichigai.com On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com wrote: Replace all of the solid state stuff with vacuum tubes. Some of the ways semiconductors are affected are noted here: http://www.mse.vt.edu/faculty/hendricks/mse4206/projects97/group02/effects.htm In some tactical missiles, single events are dealt with with nuclear event detectors (NED) that shut down critical circuits gracefully. One of the bigger worries is voltage regulators which when upset of course quit regulating, which can cause multiple failures. --- On Sat, 3/14/09, Bill Maddock n4z...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Bill Maddock n4z...@yahoo.com Subject: [Elecraft] Your thoughts on EMP and protecting K3/K2 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, March 14, 2009, 12:43 PM With things ramping up internationally and talk of possibility of either nucleur strike or dirty bombs, what would be best way of protecting our gear? I know that the radios are pretty tight for keeping signals out and I have a very good ground system here. What else can be done to protect our gear. Thanks and 73, Bill N4ZI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K2]...Hot glue toroids to PCB???
If its that big of a deal to you there used to be a product called 'qdope' that was made for this purpose. With some frequencies various other things can cause havok, though i would believe in LF projects the effect is negligible. Matt W8ESE Former KD8DAO http://blog.MattIsKichigai.com On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Lee Buller k...@swbell.net wrote: Do not do this. I use bees wax to secure one of my toroids down because I felt it needed it. Well, it is a mess to work with. I abandoned the practice and just used the wires to hold them in place. Lee - K0WA In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? --- On Mon, 3/2/09, Mike-WE0H w...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Mike-WE0H w...@yahoo.com Subject: [Elecraft] [K2]...Hot glue toroids to PCB??? To: Elecraft-List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 1:43 AM Building my K2. Does anyone see any issues with using hot glue to glue the toroids down to the boards? I've never had issues gluing toroids down in my 600 meter projects. Inductance values have never changed from no glue to glued down. But with the K2, it just doesn't seem right to leave the toroids loose without gluing them to the boards. So what do you guys think, glue or no glue? Many thanks, Mike WE0H __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] hot glue K2 toroids?
I doubt you use actual RTV but a RTV-like sealant. RTV contains acetic acid and will eat/corrode electronics and is a no-no for mil hardware. In mil spec hardware I doubt you are winding your own toroids. While it was common practice to do your own air wound coil knifing, the CMMI people have pretty much axed that practice as it makes it too easy to loose the recipe and manufacturing costs are too high. Now everything is bought with a ridiculous tolerance spec from coilcraft or its laser trimmed. (just gave the manufacturing cost to someone else really, but the big wigs never realize that) Just wanted to give my 0.02 before some people got the idea to goto the hardware store and grab RTV, make sure you know what they are using as the solvent! /also produces military hardware Matt W8ESE Former KD8DAO http://blog.MattIsKichigai.com On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:14 PM, SidShusterman k...@comcast.net wrote: I currently work for a military radio manufacturer and we vibrate everything we make because lives depend on our products. In cases where vibration is an issue we use RTV to provide a cushion. I am not suggesting anything just stating a commercial fact. Step away from the hot glue gun. It is for scrapbooking not radio manufacture. 73, Sid Applying hot glue in tiny amounts takes a level of creativity and skill not found with most kit builders. Why risk it? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 comprehensive list of toroids to wind?
why would you need such a list? Matt KD8DAO http://blog.MattIsKichigai.com On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:20 AM, John Shadle sha...@katzenfisch.com wrote: Is there a list of all the toroids to wind for the K2? I know I could just thumb through the manual for the basic kit and figure it all out, but I thought I might ask if someone has this in a Word/PDF file or on the web somewhere. On a related note, is there a list of toroids to wind for the add-ons for the K2 as well (KAT2, etc.)? Thanks! -john W4PAH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] easy source of static dissipating work mat?
A ESD bag and a mat are 2 different animals, a ESD bag (silver) creates a faraday shield around the object protecting it from esd (think tinfoil) an esd mat is a relatively high Z conductor designed to bleed off charge as to avoid arcing (think rub feet on carpet and touch doornob.) there are also pink 'esd' bags that are not shelded but are simply made of a plastic which will not generate static electricity. A ESD bag is not a suitable replacement for a mat. Matt KD8DAO http://blog.MattIsKichigai.com On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Jerry Flanders jefland...@comcast.net wrote: At 07:59 AM 12/12/2008, Don Nelson wrote: The K3 kit has two sub assemblies that come in large conducting plastic bags. I used these bags for an antistatic mat. I put these bags down on the work bench overlapping to provide a good conducting surface. If you want you can cut open two sides of each bag and fold open the bag to double the covered surface. Don I don't understand how that material is supposed to function, but I tested a piece of it (may have been from some other source) and found that it was not conductive, at least as far as my DVM could measure. I concluded that I could not trust it to drain off any static charge from a workpiece - wrong? Jerry W4UK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Questions from a Liberal Arts Major
You mean the S-meter reads in S units (6db) how unique. Also the damn powerpole thing has been beat to death over numerous threads on this reflector. Read those and pray no one gets out their soapbox again. Matt KD8DAO http://blog.MattIsKichigai.com On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Jan Erik Holm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lee Buller wrote: Alsowhy is one person calling the S-Meter and the power connector junk that cannot be fixed? Maybe I should explain my point. S-meter, too coars since it can only show a 6 dB change. It´s been reported on this reflector that it was impossible to rectify/change that, i e to get better resolution more data points has to be produced by the radio. So bottom line, an S-meter that coarse IMO is junk, sorry but it´s my opinion. 12V power connector, does not have a positive lock, i e can come loose if radio is moved. Again IMO this is junk. This probably could be fixed, i e modify it for another type connector. And yes the K3 has a few other issues also but as I did say before nothing in life is perfect, I still love my K3 and would not like to be without it. 73 Jim SM2EKM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 ATU Finally Finished, THX ALL
To Don and everyone else who encouraged and helped me build my K2 I would like to say thank you, after sitting in a box for about 8 months due to a move at home, then a move at work, I officially moved into my new lab today and got my mitts on a power meter, and finished the ATU cal, now that I also have an antenna erected in my apartment, I hope to meet some of you on the air in the near future. Thanks again to everyone, I cant wait until I save enough money for my next one (another K2 or possible K1). Matt Palmer KD8DAO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KX1 UNBUILT KIT WANTED
I hear you can buy them at www.elecraft.com cheers Matt On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Dan Boardman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonder if anyone has an unbuilt KX1 or any of it's accessory kits unbuilt they would like to sell? Please call Dan at 770-377-6000 or email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ESD Safety
Knowing that you need 2000V or so before you feel it illustraits why its important to take ESD precautions with sensitive parts, very recently at work we had an LDMOS device that would be destroyed with about 30V which means moving your hand in the air near it would cook it, hence why the use of wriststraps, smocks and ionizers is key, most electronics are not this sensitive however. (class 3 is 16KV) Matt KD8DAO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Assembly mat
I hate to add my 2 cents but as far as a humidifier, you want above 30 percent humidity, an air ionizer would be the next step up after that, a lot of the larger RF transistors used in my workplace are especially sensitive, and it is a requirement to run an ionizer to prevent gate damage. Matt KD8DAO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Assembly mat
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 5:38 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not convinced - I thought ESD packaging is designed to conduct across its inner surface, therefore preventing the build up of static and charge on depends on the type of ESD packaging, esd protected or esd resistant, the pink plastic material will not develop a charge, while the shiny bags or black foam are conductive protecting the device. there are also the black plastic boxes which will not generate static. Matt Kd8dao ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Anyone know this info about switching supplies?
Since building switchers for the military is my profession these days i would like to think i have some authority on the subject. Failures can occur almost anywhere in a switcher and the most typical type depends on the topology of the supply. Typically there is a pass transistor on the input that will turn off power to the whole supply (at least in my designs) if anything goes out of spec however i would bet in cheap commercial supplies this is not always the case. My most common failure in lab tests for me is the primary side transistor, what happens depends on whether the transistor fails short or open. If it fails open you typically have no voltage on the output (again this is dependent on topology) but if it fails closed, you can get runaway on the output in certain topologies. I would like to think any 'smart' design has a pass transistor and enough bit and supervision circuitry as to shut the supply down if something goes wrong, Component failure in the feedback loop is going to be rare, as these are typically passive components, either a resistive divider, a sense winding on the transformer, these parts typically don't fail, and if they do, they fail in spectacular fashion which usually gives you a clue something is going wrong. Matt KD8DAO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] KAT2 Null Bridge
I cant get the bridge null to 0V T1 looks right, and all the various connectors are fine as far as continuity (less than an ohm) any ideas what to goto next? Matt KD8DAO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] KAT2 Bump
@don and the other guru's KAT2 is built, however i cant get the 10pin connector to sit on p4 of the control board, i dont want to force it, (right now i'm pushing enough to flex the circuit board) is it supposed to sit flush or nott? Matt KD8DAO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Question: Over-voltage protection (OVP) for K2, K1
I'm using a linear tech LT4356CDE as shown in their application note for Demo Circuit (DC) 1018A, to do the same thing, it ends up being pretty compact. Some people may have issues getting the sense resistors however. Matt KD8DAO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] PC Boards
Is it possible to buy only bare boards from elecraft? I'm thinking about a KIO2, but i already have all the parts in my junk box, and $90 is alot to spend for something i basically already have. Matt KD8DAO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] KAT2 Query
Building the KAT2, i'm not getting some of the caps bent down very far on the filter board, does anyone have any pictures of one built with the newer style teardrop caps instead of npo discs, i'd like a visual reference to compare to. Matt KD8DAO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: News Article on Tin Whiskers Ruining Electronics
main problem with the article is both space programs and military are exempt from being ROHS compliant, so why would lead free solder be in a satellite? Matt KD8DAO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] External speaker jack K2
Having some minor problems here, mainly the external speaker jack does not fit the hole in the case, not even close. Matt KD8DAO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 snag again
@ don and the other guru's, as i was going over the final check on the k2 RF board, i noticed d39 was not installed and hmm, i seem to have an extra MV 209... how much trouble am i in? Matt KD8DAO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 snag again
i was worried about it causing problems with alignments, do i need to realign the filters then? Matt KD8DAO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] bifiliar winding issues
i seem to be having trouble winding the bifilar transformers t3 on the k2 and on the KAT t1, i seem to keep coming up with a short some where in both, any tips? Matt KD8DAO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] smaller?
smaller is also better for RF, surface mount resistors and caps are much more consistent to manufacture and better for RF due to almost eliminated stray effects. Also with cheaper comes more accurate, almost all surface mount resistors are 1% and they are cheaper than the 5% ones. Matt KD8DAO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] HexKey care tip
I hate to say it, but you would think if you spent that amount of money on a key it wouldn't have a simple problem like that, you would think they could pop for the extra buck or two and get better feet. Matt KD8DAO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft rigs...
It seems to me the old guys want things to get bigger, i want them smaller, there is no reason with advances in technology and smaller components that you cant fit a radio with the performance of the k2 (basic anyway) into an altoids tin, look at the AT-Sprint i think its a great example of what can be done. If you want a better example i spent the summer building and prototyping a power supply for military radios, we shoved 350 watts with 9 outputs and red/black isolation into a 3U conduction cooled compact pci card, which with the height restriction that imposes i think was a pretty amazing feat. If i had the free time to actually study the k2 and figure it out on the level that don has it down, i wouldn't mind designing my own, but alas i never have enough time to finish any of my dream projects, only to start them and then to leave a bunch of parts and sketches in a box somewhere. Matt KD8DAO On 9/7/07, J F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt, I would like to see a SM Elecraft kit as well. Some of the devices are pretty easy to work with, although even some of them may be too big these days. The AmQRP micro908 was my first SMD kit. I was worried about being able to work with the small devices. But after the first couple of components, it was actually fun and easy. Maybe not for everyone, but I don't think it is as hard to do as folks fear. Requires some new tools and a bit more patience, and GOOD magnifying visor/loop. Cheers, Julius n2wn ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] 2SC2166 Driver replacement?
Again I invoke the elecraft gods, i dont have a 2sc2166, mine is a 2sc5739, checking the data sheets these are the same except they have lower voltage, current and power dissapation rating, is this a documented replacement? I would have expected it to show up in errata somewhere... Just want to make sure its still ok before i tag it down. Matt KD8DAO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Optimized mic ?
I would rather see them expanding into a surface mount miniaturized version of the k2 with improved performance for a k4. Matt KD8DAO On 9/6/07, Brett gazdzinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do wonder what Elecraft could come up with if size, weight, and power consumption were not an issue. It would likely be a rig I would really like, as there are plenty of small rigs out there. They don't need to go head to head with the major manufacturers if they don't want to, they can sell what they sell and how they want to sell it, and be as big or as little as they want. My guess is they want to sell zillions of K3's though, with all the jetting around to hamfests. If the K4 was twice the size of the K3, and had four times the knobs and buttons on it, and had the K3 performance, I bet they would sell even more of them then K3's, at a higher price. I don't see why Elecraft could not get very large in short order, as no one has the range and performance they do, kits, small rigs, top end performing rigs, medium size rigs, backpack rigs, antenna tuners, amplifiers, and with the K4, big deluxe rigs. I hope they will expand and bring out more products faster, while reducing the individual workload so they don't burn out. Brett N2DTS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Harpole Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 11:50 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Optimized mic ? Much as I want to like the little company that could, Elecraft folks need to recognize that despite their existing rabidly pro customer base, they are now reaching another type of customer with the advanced K3. This new customer will be much less forgiving than the folks of the QRP and toy rigs niche who are clearly predisposed to love anything Elecraft. Me, I am a new type customer, not interested in QRP (I'm too old), back packing (same), and tiny rigs (same agn). I assemble to save money, not much for the fun. I like operating, not tinkering. I purchase based on outstanding specs, not other marketing ploys. Message then to Elecraft, provided free here altho a marketing consultant would cost plenty, is to wake up to their new added customer base and understand that forgiveness in timely notices of shipment advance manual availability clear specs on rig (that are stated in the same terms as good ole Sherwood and that do not have the or the mark) and clear info on the full range of products, such as the Heil K2 mic/headphones, can be expected to be met with only a polite patience that can be exhausted soon. It is a new and exciting ...and challenging day for Elecraft. They have entered the big leagues and clearly challenge ICOM and Yaesu (and ORION). Marketing info will need to measure up too. PS... keep my order for a K3 active, please. 73 Charles Harpole, HS0ZCW [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Test your celebrity IQ. Play Red Carpet Reveal and earn great prizes! http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=redcarpet_hot mailtextlink2 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft rigs...
I think we need to get with the times, i'm not saying a smaller box for the k2, but i wouldnt mind seeing a surface mount version, which would mean more space inside the box for user mods and tinkering, i think with all the options installed everyone agrees the k2 is a tight fit. And as much as everyone seems scared of smt, it seems to be the same fear of toroids, there not that bad, theres nothing hard about it, no magic spells to cast, it just takes a little practice, so the sooner we get a kit radio we really really want, that requires us to do a little surface mounting the sooner the ham community will get over itself (this is the 20 year year olds perspective though) Matt KD8DAO On 9/6/07, Brett gazdzinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if people want it smaller, or they push smaller stuff to the people, or if it's a young thing, or what. I do NOT want things smaller, my cell phone/camera is already so small its very hard to use, look at aftermarket car radios, the buttons and displays are so small you have to stop and put your glasses on to read/change anything, handhelds have gotten so small they cant fit enough buttons and have menus and multi function things that make them almost imposable to use or figure out. I got a VX-7r I hate, as you cant use it without the (thick) instruction book, you cant even hold it without things getting in the way, and it gets REAL hot. No thanks, I want things bigger. Now if I was back packing, I would like it to be small and light, for the rest of it, I want it big and easy to use. But maybe I am odd, my transmitters are 6 foot tall Brett N2DTS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JT Croteau Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:07 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft rigs... People today seem to want everything to be smaller (except for their big screen TV's). Everything is becoming smaller, not bigger. -- JT Croteau, N1ESE - Manchester, NH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 C125 Manual page 69
On page 69 of the current manual it says c125 is a 22uF electrolytic, all i have left is a 2.2uF is this something for errata? Matt KD8DAO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Addendum to my earlier question
seems i accidently put the 22u into c106, will swapping this out affect anything major (ie will i have to redo any of the alignment that has been done thusfar) did having this cap here hurt anything? I'm trying to trace the schematic but cannot find this cap. Matt KD8DAO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] KAT2 Question
At Don and others, when reading the manual it instructs you to install R3, R4 and R5 but not to confuse R5 with R6, is R6 supposed to be installed in this step as well, browsing through the manual i cannoth find any other direction to install R6. Thanks, Matt KD8DAO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Capacitor Question
probably just a little paranoia on my part but: on the K2 c133 is listed in the manual as a 104 (.1) and states to bend it down, however the 104's are short and the pad is too large for this cap, is this still the correct capacitor. Thanks Matt KD8DAO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Next K2 Addon
I figured i would poll the peanut gallery, assuming in my next two weeks where i have nothing better to do i can finish the K2 and get it aligned quickly, I should have some extra pocket change, what is the logical next step, auto-tuner or SSB board? (SSB will be used for psk only)? All comments, advice and snide remarks are accepted and appreciated! Matt KD8DAO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Soldering dangers
I use the kester pocket packs for soldering, (not kester solder however) when it goes empty i simply rewind my spool on an appropriately sized marker, and then refill the pack, I frequently hold the plastic pack in my teeth whilst holding a component and a iron. Matt KD8DAO On 8/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If my previous warning on this subject did not get thro, please advise everyone you know not to hold solder in the mouth while soldering. Leakage current even from good quality isolated irons could cause your heart to stop. I did it once and eventually picked myself up from the other side of the room - a wreck for several hours. David G3UNA From: Jeremiah McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/08/01 Wed PM 02:43:36 BST To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Solder Good idea...I do the same using an empty sewing thread spool...Holding a one pound spool of solder while soldering 17 relays can get very tiring on an arthritic wrist...G Jerry, wa2dkg For some time, I have used a fly-tying bobbin as a solder dispenser. If you don't know what that is, go to a fly-fishing shop or a well-equipped sporting goods store. Be sure to check the I.D. of the tip to be sure it will handle the solder you are using. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] solder in kits, the sequel
In response to the solder comments i'd like to contribute my $0.02 : IDM, As long as the solder is not on the prohibited list it doesn't matter. There I said it, everyone proceed to gasp and freak out. I'm still working on my K2 slowly, and have now used more than 6 different kinds of solder ranging from kester, to radio shack, to multicore. I've used various diameters from way to small to way to big. I don't think it really matters, any solder that melts will produce a radio in the end, you could spend a lifetime arguing about which is better and perfecting your special solder formula, I would prefer to get a few QSO's in instead. I will admit that a good solder is nice and minimizes the effort and fuss, but even crappy radio shack solder (from my testing it has been the worst so far) works though it requires added cursing and a few rude gestures to make it cooperate. Solder is solder despite what everyone likes to claim IMHO, and a little practice and a decent soldering iron is worth more that worrying about what brand/mix solder you are using. Just pick up the soldering iron and get to work, your gonna make a mistake or two, your going to need some practice, your going to need to let the smoke out of a few things in the process. In the end, mental energy and effort is better spent in actual building and use of the project than freaking out because you don't have the magic bullet special solder. Matt KD8DAO On 8/1/07, Leo Bricker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a fairly new ham. I'll probably be thought of poorly by some, based on prior readings here, however I managed to grow up not learning to solder or build kits or anything similar. I have virtually no tools for such activities either. Based on my readings here and elsewhere I find the Elecraft community for the most part a totally helpful and friendly community. I have deluded myself into thinking that even with two left thumbs I may be able to build a few of their small kits and have a useful piece of test equipment when finished. That said, because I realize how great a difference there can be in solder and the significant impact it can have on the finished project, I would gladly pay more for my kit to have the experts at Elecraft send me the optimum solder for my kit. I would also gladly and thankfully accept a list of tools with part numbers and sources that they have found best. I will never have the level of expertise they have so these things would be significant assets for myself and others at similar levels. I didn't hear any others suggesting they include such things without proper compensation and am not suggesting it either. I'm suggesting they offer an additional option box to check off to get things that not everyone has yet and may not know the best choices of. -- Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. -- Leo Bricker 73's K5LDB ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] 21st century connectivity
I would take ruby over java but would like to mention one you missed, tcl which is also very portable. Matt KD8DAO On 7/26/07, Rob Lundahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you considered Java? Totally portable across systems. Or even Ruby which is a 1 click install on windows and is free. Ruby is also on Linux, Windows, and OS X plus BSD. Java has the advantage that it is already installed on most systems. But Ruby is easy to install and very productive to code in. Both provide portability. Rob NV7F -- Visit http://oceansblue.biz ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] OT: Parts Vendors
Has anyone bough parts from www.danssmallpartsandkits.net? Any comments on the experience? Matt KD8DAO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] dangerous software
Looks like phishing to me (bad grammar is key) Matt KD8DAO On 7/21/07, John Palmar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My virus protection sends me the following message every to send an email. Do you know anything about this? *** PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS NOTIFICATION. *** Trend Micro PC-calling Internet Security has detected a message containing dangerous software. You will find the message in question attached to this notification in the form of a harmless text file. If you need to read the original message, please open only the text file, not the original. As a further precaution, do NOT save the original message as a message file (files with the .msg or .oft suffix at the end) to keep your computer safe from infection. Thank you John ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 Build Pictures
for anyone who is interested playing with the new digicam while building my k2, i'll upload new photos as i take them. http://picasaweb.google.com/KD8DAO/K2Build Matt KD8DAO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Started building my K2 have a few ?
Almost complete with the control board and had a couple questions for the peanut gallery. There are pads on the board for a C44, however this cap does not appear in the inventory, and is not mentioned in the manual, I assume it is for an additional module but we know what happens when you assume things. Also does anyone know the gold plating thickness on the right angle connectors? I am generally unhappy with the wetting I am getting on several pins and am concerned about these solder joints breaking somewhere in the future, has anyone else had this problem (Before I get the canned responses I am using a Metcal RF soldering iron with a 037 tip and am building the board in compliance with JSTD 001D Class 3) Thanks a bunch. Matt Palmer KD8DAO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] RE: Started building my K2 have a few ?
A metcal 037 tip is 700 deg F. I'm using some kester 60/40 solder I had laying about(pocketpak), not sure of actual part number. In regards to my plating question, from a commercial production standpoint, if gold plating is too thick on a part, it tends to cause cracking in a solder joint in later life. Under JSTD001 gold platings above a certain thickness are supposed to be filed/sanded down to alleviate this problem. Usually at least in my place of business we do not know of problems with plating until it is too late. I was just curious if there were any other 'crafters out there that have had issues with the gold plated connectors, if not I don't plan on worrying about it, I have not had the opportunity to look at the joints under a scope, however just the fact that capillary action failed to pull solder thru the vias and wet the top of the board gave me a bad initial feeling ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com