Re: [Elecraft] K3-PWR knob

[philippe . trottet]

Many thanks to Gary, Jim and Paul for their kind advises.
Macros has been assigned for that purpose and it exactly fit my needs.
Bst 73's
Philippe A65BI


Quoting philippe.trot...@ties.itu.int:

> Dear Elecrafters,
> Is it possible to increase the speed of the the PWR knob ?
> To move from low to high power and vice versa on my K3 #3616 is quite long.
> Thanks for ur advises.
> Bst 73's
> Philippe A65BI
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[Elecraft] K3-PWR knob

[philippe . trottet]

Dear Elecrafters,
Is it possible to increase the speed of the the PWR knob ?
To move from low to high power and vice versa on my K3 #3616 is quite long.
Thanks for ur advises.
Bst 73's
Philippe A65BI

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[Elecraft] K3 MIC COMP

[philippe . trottet]

Dear Elecrafters,
>From the beginnig I put my K3#3616 on the air, mid november 2009, Firmware 
>3.53,
I have noticed on ssb to obtain 10 on the CMP bargraph I'm obliged to increase
the CMP knob to 20 to see the bargraph +/- 10.

I know it is only approximative but is any adjustment available to increase
slighty the bargraph excursion ?  I haven't see any infos on the adjustment
procedure or my eyes missed it.
Firmware 4.25 installed
Thanks for advises
73's
Philippe A65BI


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Re: [Elecraft] Delivery in France

[Philippe Trottet]

Le club des Elecrafters Francais s'agrandit.
Bienvenue
73's
Philippe A65BI  (F5LTB)   ex-9Q1TB, 2003-2008
K3#3616

>>> "F8EZE"  19-11-2010 23:54 >>>
Hi Folks,
La Poste dear Georges. Enjoy your K3 !

F8EZE Jean
K3 #998

-Message d'origine-
De : elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] De la part de Georges
Ringotte
F6DFZ
Envoyé : vendredi 19 novembre 2010 20:41
À : elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Objet : [Elecraft] Delivery in France

My K3/P3 are on their way to France with USPS Priority Mail
International.
Who will distribute them to my door  : La Poste, GLS ???
Thank you.

Georges F6DFZ
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Unable to download 4.22

[Philippe Trottet]

FileZilla Client from Mozilla is also free and works ok.
73's
Philippe A65BI

>>> "Bill VanAlstyne W5WVO"  17-11-2010 1:49 >>>
Just as an FTP suggestion -- If you are using Mozilla Firefox as a browser 
(which IMO everyone should be), there is an FTP client plug-in called 
FireFTP. It is a seriously awesome FTP app, it's FREE, and it works on MacOS 
and Linux as well as on Windows of all flavors. You get a drag-and-drop 
capable dual file system window -- one window for the FTP site, another for 
your local file system.

If you ever use FTP, just being able to run this FTP plug-in client is 
reason enough to upgrade your browser to Firefox (as if there weren't 100 
other reasons). Can't recommend this FTP client highly enough.

Bill W5WVO


-Original Message- 
From: Steve Ellington
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 21:34
To: JAMES ROGERS ; Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Unable to download 4.22

Usually I have to open the beta link in another tab or copy and paste the
URL in a fresh browser window. Then once there, a refresh is often required
to bring up the new version.
Steve N4LQ

- Original Message - 
From: "JAMES ROGERS" 
To: "Elecraft Reflector" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 3:39 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3: Unable to download 4.22


>I have been attempting to download 4.22 all day using two different
> browsers, IE and Safari. Is the ftp site down?
>
> 73s Jim, W4ATK
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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware failed to load, again

[Philippe Trottet]

Try to use a FTP server to download the zip file of Beta versions. 
I'm using Filezilla Client from Mozilla, never get a problem to download from 
Elecraft.
Bst 73's
Philippe A65BI

>>> "James Sarte (K2QI)"  16-11-2010 19:47 >>>
Dr Martin,

I have not had this experience with any of the firmware versions; I have
been switching between many different releases as of late to help with some
beta testing.

I do not have the LPF installed yet.  I will be receiving one soon though.
I find it hard to believe that the LPF could have something to do with this
issue though; others would have mentioned it on the reflector.

Have you sent a message to K3 support?

73,
James K2QI

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 4:54 AM, DM4iM  wrote:

> Elecrafters,
> when updating to 4.22 , DSP1 again failed to load.
> DSP1 is skipped, the Utility proceeds with DSP2.
>
> I need to start a second run with only DSP1 checked
> to complete the update.
> This happened with 4.17, 4.18 and 4.22.
>
> Otherwise the radio works 'as advertised'
>
> I installed the K3DSPLPF recently.
>
> Anyone experience this?
>
> Radio is K3 # 2878
> SUB RX
>
> Utility is the latest Linux version.
> Real serial connection (ttyS0), no USB.
>
> --
>
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> Martin DM4iM
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 rev 4.22 Beta Release: Improved APF (CW); all SSB anomalies fixed

[Philippe Trottet]

4.22 beta release installed
Not noticed on my side.
Filters on use on my K3: 6, 2.8, 1.8, 1, 0.4   (Same for SUB RX)
73's Philippe A65BI
K3#3616

>>> Nate Bargmann  16-11-2010 5:33 >>>
Wayne, I do still hear a noticeable 'tick' on CW when going from 150 to
100 Hz and back again.  It seems to be repeatable if I go a step or so
past those values and then return the other way.  My K3 is S/N 4762.  I
typically need to have headphones on to hear it.

73, de Nate N0NB >>

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Re: [Elecraft] New K3 Beta Release: APF for CW, "Fast Monitor" & improved TX gate for voice modes

[Philippe Trottet]

Even the mic dynamics came back to normal compare to 4.17, I confirm the same 
difference between 4.18 and 4.14 and about the APF if moving the Shift to 1khz 
a big click then nothing. Need to go down to 280 HZ to restart the APF.
 
73's
Philippe A65BI


>>> "Geoffrey Downs"  06-11-2010 19:02 >>>
Hi Lyle,

SSB output is certainly improved in F/W 4.18 compared with 4.17 but contrary 
to what some others are saying it seems to me still to be down compared with 
4.14. This morning I did a tx gain calibration and noted output from the amp 
under 4.14. I then installed 4.18, cycled power on and off and did another 
tx gain calibration. With all settings unchanged it was around 15%  down on 
4.14. Can anything more be done?

Credit where it is due, however, the APF feature is excellent, although I do 
not often use CW so have gone back to 4.14 for now.

73 to all

Geoff
G3UCK

- Original Message - 
From: "Lyle Johnson" 
Subject: [Elecraft] New K3 Beta Release: APF for CW, "Fast Monitor" & 
improved TX gate for voice modes


K3 beta-test firmware revision 4.18 (with DSP rev. 2.67) is now
available. 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

[Philippe Trottet]

Hi Wayne,
Just downloaded MCU 4.18. Great improvement and everything is ok now.
Once again many thanks for the tremendous support of the Elecraft team.
Bst 73's
Philippe A65BI
 
Elecraft, by Hams, for HamsWhat else !


>>> Wayne Burdick  05-11-2010 8:54 >>>
We're working on the SSB problem.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Nov 4, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Philippe Trottet wrote:

> Same thing to me, I was noticed it when put my Amp w/GU84B on, need  
> 20w+ to obtain 500w in ssb instead of my normal 16w...


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

[Philippe Trottet]

After many tries, on Dummy load first then with distant Ham friends, conclusion 
was to re-installed MCU 4.14.
Instead of giving the same dynamic with the MH2 microphone, with my Amp on, 
using 12w drive, using Mic=2 COMP=20, pronouncing the number 6 slowly, I have 
seen immediately the difference. 
For me, using a Amp w/GU84B tetrode, 12w drive on ssb give 500~600w on normal 
voice operation. 
With MCU 4.17 it gave only 300~400w and the power increase with difficulty on a 
single whistle to 500w. and when I pushed to maxi drive 65~70w I was unable to 
achieve the normal 64dBm+ of the Amp with normal voice. 
Normal cw tune procedure seems not affected and I can achieve the maxi as 
normal.
 
The most important: 
It has been reported to me during the test on the air, some alteration of the 
modulation, like a RFI ground phenomena on the microphone or like a under 
voltage problem during transmitting.
I've checked all connections from A to Z and no problem founded. re-load 4.17, 
installed it 2 times, with no changes.
When re-installing the MCU 4.14 everything is back to normal with the very 
clear voice provided by the K3.
Sure Wayne will share with us what's happened, .APF is a so great add-up in 
weak signal environment !
Bst 73's
Philippe A65BI

>>> Tim Tucker  05-11-2010 20:02 >>>
I have the same experience that Philippe has.  I thought I had one or both
3cx800A7 tubes  going flat in my amp when I had to increase the drive to a
level I never have been close to approaching to get 1KW out.

It's great to hear that you guys are on this new glitch so quickly.

Tim

On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> We're working on the SSB problem.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
> On Nov 4, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Philippe Trottet wrote:
>
> > Same thing to me, I was noticed it when put my Amp w/GU84B on, need
> > 20w+ to obtain 500w in ssb instead of my normal 16w...
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

[Philippe Trottet]

Same thing to me, I was noticed it when put my Amp w/GU84B on, need 20w+ to 
obtain 500w in ssb instead of my normal 16w.  MH2 Mic dynamics was also 
affected and obliged to increase the Mic gain consequently.
When back to NOR Dual PB features it comes back almost to normal power but 
seems a bit lack of dynamic.
When download back the 4.14, everything returns to "normal".
I have download again the 4.17 and same "problem" occurs but let it like this 
the time a solution will be available on line.
Anyway the APF is really impressive to extract the weak signal and really 
enjoyed it. It is also a must to catch the beacons qrg's.
Bst 73s 
Philippe A65BI

>>> "Dave Perry N4QS"  05-11-2010 4:34 >>>
I am seeing the same reduction in SSB output power.  I installed 4.17 Beta 
last night.  It appears that the reduced power only occurs when I have APF 
activated.  I have twice restored SSB power by doing the following:  1). 
Changing mode back to CW, 2). Going to Dual PB in Config menu and turning 
APF off, 3). exiting Config menu, 4). changing mode back to SSB.  Power is 
restored back to a full 100 watts.  With APF set to on, SSB power is reduced 
to about 70 watts.  I confirmed this on 17M by repeating the process twice, 
and I then tried 20 M SSB and the power was back to 70 watts (after I had 
turned APF back on.)  Is this a problem with the beta release?  I saw 
Wayne's suggestion to do a TX gain calibration, but it seems strange that I 
would only need to do this after installing Beta 4.17.

APF works great, but I need to resolve this SSB power issue.  I may try RTTY 
next to see what happens in that mode.

Dave, N4QS


- Original Message - 
From: "Nate Bargmann" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?


>* On 2010 04 Nov 18:23 -0500, Dave, W8OV wrote:
>> I had no loss of SSB power output after the 4.17 Beta install.  The APF
>> works wonderfully, with only a hint of ringing to my ears.  Really nice
>> addition to the K3.
>
> At least some of you aren't seeing this.  :-)
>
> James Rogers suggested turning the Mic gain to 0 and then back up and he
> was getting good output.  After I did that, I could only get about 25
> Watts peak on both meters.  I switched to CW mode, transmitted a short
> carrier which showed 100 Watts on both meters (power control set to
> 100).  Switching back to SSB both meters showed about 70 Watts.  I have
> since bumped TXG VCE up to the max, 3.0 dB and am getting about 90 Watts
> peak on each meter (I say four in a normal voice to get the K3's
> meter to stabilize for a bit).  I had previously had TXG VCE set to 1.0
> dB.
>
> I'm not sure that rolling back to the last stable firmware would solve
> this or be fraught with other issues.  Generally, roll-backs don't work
> all that well in other devices.
>
> 73, de Nate >>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 APF Adjustable Q

[Philippe Trottet]

I agree with the comments  about the use of the DPB filter who act as a APF 
with wider Q.
May be the suggestion is to give more "flexibility" to the DBP filter in order 
to let the K3 user choosing what would be the best  in its own suppressing 
noise environment. 
73's
Philippe A65BI

>>> The Smiths  01-11-2010 12:24 >>>

Joe,

For some reason you keep thinking that Elecraft's APF is being designed and 
programmed by Yaesu engineers  Why is it that just because Yaesu made a 
mistake with their rig that it means Elecraft has to destroy THEIR APF just 
because they choose to add an adjustable Q control?  You have to have 
confidence that the APF can remain exactly the same as Lyle and the gang has 
written it while still adding the ability to open it up some?  Just because 
Yaesu programmers weren't talented enough not to destroy what they had built 
doesn't mean that Elecraft will make the same mistake.
Furthermore there are Alpha testers like myself that will make sure that once 
the variable Q has been put in that when set to the Minimum (narrowest) setting 
that it will still act and feel like it does now.  Of course you too could do 
the same as an Alfa software tester.  This isn't Yaesu where no one listens to 
the users once they choose to make a change or adjustment to the code... Your 
say WILL matter if things sound different once the feature has been improved 
for others.  I really don't think that you're giving Elecraft, it's 
programmers, or the Alpha testers such as myself enough credit.

I'm in favor of having a variable Q on this APF system.  It will help improve 
copy with a tight algorithm that Lyle has written for this one, while at the 
same time allowing me to open the Q so that I can copy not as weak signals with 
gain, and less ringing.  I believe that Lyle will not destroy his own code by 
adding a feature that Enhances the operation of what he's already created for 
us.  If he does, I will be the first to let him know so he can re-program it.  
The Dual pass band filter is nice, yes, but if you've used your DPB filter in 
the K3 you know as well as I do that it acts NOTHING like the APF with a wider 
Q in suppressing noise and improving gain as we're seeing on this current APF.  
Again, this is NOT a Yaesu rig... 



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Re: [Elecraft] List SPAM & SCAM

[Philippe Trottet]

Received also and junked it. 
73's
Philippe A65BI

>>> David Guernsey  25-09-2010 14:49 >>>
I also received an email with subject "Sad News" 

73s de Dave Guernsey KJ6CBS



  
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[Elecraft] NCDXF/IARU Beacons

[Philippe Trottet]

Dear Elecrafters,
How to decode almost correctly the NCDXF/IARU beacons with a different pitch 
than 700~800Hz 
I'm using a pitch of 450Hz in order to use less bandwidth and it is more softer 
to my ears, especially on long runs.
I can hear clearly the beacons with the 450Hz but even I'm shifting up the VFO 
to listen a 600~700Hz tone, the decoder is not working even the pitch (so the 
FC) has been moved to those values. CWT is off. Width is used between 50 
~200Hz.  Filter: 400Hz
AGC on or off do not change anything.
On the other hand he decoder seems not really "sensitive" on weak signals.
Any trick ?
Bst 73's
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Big box K3

[Philippe Trottet]

K3 has been primarily designed for portable use/dx-speditions & field days and 
honestly I'm more focused and impressed from the results than the design. 
Everything is functional and easy to access even with my big fingers and for 
those who are lack of space (it's not my case) it would be an add-up.
A Steve says, to propose a "base" version would be a complete technical 
re-design of the K3 and really on the financial side what would be the market 
for a tiny company to invest in such a project ? Need to be sure to sold many 
thousands of units, enroll more staff, even new engineering equipment, larger 
premises,  increasing exponentially the costs ...& taxes etc... 
In that specific case, Wayne & Eric are listening to most of our realistic 
comments and advises and the evolution of the K3 took our concerns to 
consideration that is the Ham sprit at a level where no major company has gone 
before. 
Human being is never satisfied of one's lot but I think we have to be modest 
and self adapted to the Elecraft rigs as they offer the best they can do. 
If they propose a new rig in the future it would be another issue and all our 
fears would have been analysed and well think over.
 
Bst 73's
Philippe A65BI 
K3#3616
*Elecraft, for Hams, by Hams...What else ?
 
 
 

>>> "Steve Harvey"  10-08-2010 22:18 >>>
I don't really have a horse in this race because I am personally very happy
with my K3 (#693) and, knowing that Wayne's Engineering degree included
emphasis on Engineering Ergonomics, I am satisfied that he has given us the
best possible radio in the form factor that is most popular to most people
who represent his target market.

However, while there is nothing wrong with dreaming and asking for changes,
I wonder how many of the Big Box k3 requesters have considered the magnitude
of the effort required on Elecraft's part to deliver such a thing.

First, the job would not be as trivial as simply re-packaging the insides in
a bigger box.  It would involve the design and testing of a new RF board and
front panel in order to remove controls and displays to a different front
panel (which would also have to be designed and tested) and to remove ports
to a different back panel. Internal cable routing, shielding, and structural
support would have to be altered with consequent testing as well. Cramming
the P3, KPA500, and a power supply inside would only complicate things
further. Also, because functions would have to be removed from menus and
associated with front panel hardware, the firmware would have to be
rewritten, which would require two versions to be maintained in parallel and
alpha/beta tested for each release to keep them in sync.  Elecraft is a
small company, and most of the design and programming is done by only a
couple of people whose jobs would grow enormously, and which would deprive
other, more critical projects of their time and effort.

Second, how much would the Big Box people be willing to pay for the upgrade,
and how many could Elecraft expect to sell?  My guess is that in order to
amortize the time and materials to develop such an upgrade given the
considerations above, each unit could cost as much as the K3 itself
(possibly more depending on expected sales volume), which could bring it
into the price range of some of the "big iron" with which it favorably
competes, both cost- and feature-wise.  I suspect that there would not be
many takers at those prices.

I'm sorry that some of the current owners of K3s seem to be disappointed in
it.  Every engineering project is a trade-off, and I think that Wayne and
Eric represent the Burt Rutans of the radio world.  Given that, I don't
think that even Burt Rutan would consider adapting a VariEze (K2) or a
Starship (K3) into an AirBus form factor, and I doubt that very many
customers would buy one.


73 de Steve, NN0B




-Original Message-
From: Nicholas Farrar [mailto:nfar...@bfpacs.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 7:32 PM
To: elecraft
Subject: [Elecraft] Big box K3

*
So stop making noise just to be heard. What Im asking for would affect you
anti-changer zero. And we all got it a few post back Phil... you dont like
change fine. Then if you dont have any thing constructive to add, don't
play. Some of us do want something new. Something more. The K3 is GREAT! But
even the Queen of England could stand to refine herself a bit more. The
beauty of what Im asking for in not the end of the K3. Its just enhancement.
Why do some people fly off the handle of something so small. Take your toys
and go home. Dont spoil our party on the idea of a larger K3(K3A).




Phil Hystad* phystad at mac.com

*Mon Aug 9 21:13:21 EDT 2010*


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 : SSB modulation

[Philippe Trottet]

Hi James,
I'm using MH2 also for Field day opertions and almost same as you, set MIC=2 & 
COMP=20  TX equalizer has been adjust to my loud voice given  preferential to 
medium high audio. Great 
73's
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616

>>>  20-08-2010 18:54 >>>
Who uses the Elecraft hand mic? I do and mic gain has to be set low; i.e. 
around 8 or 9 to prevent clipping and flat topping  as viewed on a monitor 
scope.  This is with mic sensitivity set to low in the menu.  I was once told 
that the hand mics are a tad hot, but mine seems to be excessively so.

Regardless, my comp is set to 15 or 20 and I get excellent audio reports.

James K2QI
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-Original Message-
From: Stephen  Prior 
Sender: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:21:00 
To: elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 : SSB modulation

I use the Heil MD2 microphone which has an electret element.  I have both
compression and mic gain set to 25, and mic set to front panel low with
bias.

I have far more 'talk power' than I have enjoyed with any previous radio.

73 Stephen G4SJP


On 20/08/2010 04:24, "Joseph Trombino, Jr"  wrote:


>> Hi
>> 
>> We are the proud owners of 6 K3/100 used at the FY5KE contest station.
>> These radios has been delivered around mid-2008 and their serial numbers
>> are in the 012xx range.
>> 
>> After using mostly these rigs for SSB contesting in FY5KE or in other
>> places, we are still facing a lack of "dynamics", "punch",
>> "penetration", "power", whatever you call it. In other words, when
>> comparing this rig to our radios we previously used (TS-850), with the
>> same microphone (Heil HC-4 element) and the same output RF power, the K3
>> is clearly way behind in term of "average power" we can read on the Bird
>> wattmeter wired on its RF output. Even if observing the wattmeter needle
>> is not a very scientific measurement (we admit it), various comparative
>> reports on the air do confirm our feeling.
>> 
>> We spent time on various available settings (mic gain, compressor level,
>> etc), with no luck, excepted a very distorted and awful audio to roughly
>> reach the same level, which is not acceptable.
>> 
>> After a little Googling, it appears that other contesters suffers the
>> same issue (e.g. www.bavarian-contest-club.de/projects/K3_english.pdf 
>> pages 6 and 10).
>> 
>> Some questions :
>> 
>> - Do other contesters (or not) here have noted the same problem ?
>> - What settings did you modified (or not) to achieve a good result ?
>> - Is there any possible HW or SW upgrade we aren't aware of, that could
>> help us ?
>> 
>> We must confess we are currently preparing our next contest season, and
>> we are seriously considering reselling these radios and bring others
>> Japanese models if we can't solve this problem, despite we really
>> appreciate them in many other aspects (size, weight, etc.).
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> For the FY5KE/Win-Test team,
>> 
>> Larry - F6FVY
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Repair

[Philippe Trottet]

Fully agree with your comments Don, 
 
And I want to take the opportunity to encourage every Ham to pay more attention 
to protect our lovely K's and all ellectronic devices in the house.  I've seen 
so many locations who are facing huge lightings storms and this does not happen 
only to others, I'm a survival !
I do not want to start a thread beacause it is not directly related but I will 
be happy to share my experience with those who are interesed.
 
To have some ideas what it is done today on lightning protection, please have a 
look at: 
http://www.indelec.com/foudre/Comprendre_la_foudre/Comprendre_la_foudre.aspx 
I have no interest at all in this company but I have always pay very much 
attention to be well protected in the various locations I was playing Ham 
specially after an lightning hit when in France (F5LTB)
When in 2003,  I arrived in Democratic Republic of Congo (9Q1TB), where 
lightning protection is mandatory I was looking to the companies who can 
provide such service and discover that one has a different and a technically 
interesting approach. I have equipped my house and during the 5 years I stayed 
in Kinshasa and never face any problem even the head of the lightning device up 
to my antenna system on  my metallic roof has been hitted many times by direct 
lightings, my younger son can testify, the noise amplified by the metallic roof 
was really impressive, but none of the electric/electronic devices has been 
destroyed.
The skyscraper where I'm living in UAE is already lightning protection equipped 
and apart of the strong lightnings during the "colder" season it is very useful 
 because we are facing time to time sand storms who induce an important amount 
of static.
Have a good day
Bst 73's
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616
 

>>> Don Wilhelm  05-07-2010 5:15 >>>
Jim,

I too would place lightning damage into the "Acts of Nature" category 
and not a warranty consideration.  A warranty covers premature component 
failures and failure to perform to specification, which is different IMHO.
For a comparison example, a new automobile has a warranty period, but if 
a tree falls on it and it is damaged, would that be a warranty repair? - 
I think not - that is why we have insurance coverage for those kind of 
catastrophic events.

73,
Don W3FPR

Jim McDonald wrote:
> The radio was new last
> November or so, so it is in the warranty period, but I assumed the warranty
> wouldn't cover lightning.
>   
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 fan noise, part XXLIV

[Philippe Trottet]

Hi Dave,
For the test I progammed the fan to max, after the test I put them back
to auto.
I would have mentioned it.
Tks
Philippe A65BI

>>> "Dave Hachadorian"  30-05-2010 20:32 >>>
-------
From: "Philippe Trottet" 
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 4:40 AM
To: ; 
Cc: "Elecraft List" 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 fan noise, part XXLIV

> PA temp was rising up to 55ºC,  the 2 fans were not audible 
> from my
> chair.
===

If you didn't exceed 55C, You may not have gotten to high speed 
with that test. Here are the results of my fan speed vs. temp 
test a while ago:

Time   Temp  Fan
0:0026C   0
0:26371
0:44412
1:19503
1:45554
2:40604
2:50624
3:15644
4:00644

Room temp was 77F.

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ






































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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 fan noise, part XXLIV

[Philippe Trottet]

Following the discussion, I made a full power test with my K3/100 on the
dummy load, and no noise in the room...My wife & 4 years old son were
away !
PA temp was rising up to 55ºC,  the 2 fans were not audible from my
chair. I could heard barely if I put my ears very close to them and feel
the heat flux with my hand. 
Indeed very quiet fans.
73's
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616

>>> Mike  30-05-2010 15:01 >>>
I have yet to hear the fan on my K3/100. I have a fairly noisy computer

though, so that may be masking it. SN 3539.
73, Mike NF4L

Ross Primrose N4RP wrote:
> Is this fan noise an issue with 10W K3s, or only with the 100w PAs? I

> expect to be able to purchase a 10W K3 sometime this fall, and I'd be

> disappointed if I had to listen to the fan...
>
> 73, Ross N4RP
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Announcement

[Philippe Trottet]

Dear Phil,
I will attempt to be there, 17:45Z
Philippe A65BI

>>> "Phillip Shepard"  22-05-2010 22:25 >>>
Hi guys,

The weekly SSB net will meet tomorrow (5/23) at 1800z on 14.314 MHz. I will
be net control from western Oregon. We'll try to pull in other NW stations
that I can't hear.  See you there.

73,
Phil NS7P


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Re: [Elecraft] K3:DSP Upgrade well worth it

[Philippe Trottet]

Hi Craig,
Fully confirm your impression. Seems superior and weak signals ssb/cw more 
readible and less "agressive" to my ears.
Using an old Sony MDR7505 Headset
Bst 73's
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616

>>> Craig  23-05-2010 15:34 >>>
Hi folks

I just completed the DSP upgrade  board swap. I would just like to say that its 
well worth it.   The K3 sounds much better and smoother. 

The first impression  that you get is that the receiver sounds calm and quite. 
The harshness and sharp sound has mostly gone. The receiver does  not sound 
like it has excessive bass, nor does it sound hollow  or mushy.The receiver 
sounds very much like a very good analog receiver. It actually sounds warm, 
rich  and very  pleasing to the ears.

So for those thinking  about it, I would recommend that you do  the upgrade. 
This upgrade would be  especially applicable if you have very good hearing and 
notice all these artifacts that many have spoken about..

I have not measured anything, these are just anecdotal observations. Some 
people might  say  that these claims amount to audiophile  voodoo, however I am 
not a ESSB freak!  

Anyhow I am very happy with this voodoo upgrade!

73
Craig
VK3HE


  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3:Noise blanker & Chinese radar?

[Philippe Trottet]

Hi John,
Do you check all  possibilities of the NB and no-one of those are able to block 
this Radar ?
We are facing time to time in my area such problem and had always founded a 
reliable position to minimize it, but may be the today's NB is less effective, 
I have no experience on it and I'm interested by all comments on the subject.
Bst 73's
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616
 


>>> juergen  20-05-2010 15:15 >>>

Hi

When the K3 was first released, the noise blanker was very effective on the 
Chinese Radar on 40 meters. This radar was very active on the CW end of 40 
meters. You could totally eliminate  this radar signal with the K3's noise 
blanker. 

As the firmware was updated, the K3's noise blanker seemed to become  less 
effective or almost had no effect at all.  Anyone else notice this loss  in 
performance? I wonder if this ability  to notch this low band radar was removed 
from the K3's noise blanker algorithm?

It could be that the  radars pulse repetition rate  or pulse width has changed 
rendering the noise blanker useless against it.

Anyway when the K3's blanker was working it was outstanding on 160, 80 and 40 
meters against this constant QRM source. 

John


--- On Thu, 5/20/10, N3XX  wrote:

> From: N3XX 
> Subject: [Elecraft] Connections to K3 ant 1 & 2
> To: "Elecraft Reflector" 
> Date: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 3:18 AM
> Hi to all on the list,
> 
> I just finished building my K3 kit a few weeks ago
> (4175).  All went well, 
> and the new xcvr is up & running with no problems.
> The antenna setup at my qth is a single cable from the
> entrance panel at the 
> house going out to tower #1, through a remote antenna
> switch to select from 
> antennas on that tower or another connection going to tower
> #2.  At tower #2 
> is another remote antenna switch to select various antennas
> on that tower. 
> In the shack I have an amp for 160-10 meters, and an amp
> for 6 meters.
> I would like to connect my single cable coming in from the
> entrance panel to 
> a 2 way coax switch,  with one of the ports going to
> my 160-10 meter amp, 
> and the other going to my 6 meter amp.  Then the
> 160-10 amp would be 
> connected to the K3 antenna connector 1, and the 6 meter
> amp would be 
> connected to K3 antenna connector 2.
> Both amps will operate at the legal limit easily, and my
> concern is that 
> when xmitting through one of the antenna connectors &
> amp, I will put too 
> much rf back through the coax switch to the unused K3
> antenna connector, and 
> possibly damage the K3.
> I have been changing cabling manually but would really like
> to be able to 
> just operate a switch to make the change.
> So, if anyone on the list doing something similar to what I
> have in mind, I 
> sure would like to hear about your setup, what kind of
> switch you are using, 
> how much port to port isolation is necessary to be safe,
> etc.
> 
> Tnx & 73,
> Tim - N3XX 
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Announcement

[Philippe Trottet]

Hi Phil,
Will be normally there starting 17:45 to contact some Elecrafters who could do 
the qsp for me.
73's
Philippe A65BI

>>> Phil Shepard  15-05-2010 21:41 >>>
Hi guys,
The weekly SSB net will meet tomorrow (5/16) at 1800z on 14.314 MHz. I  
will be net control from western Oregon. See you there.
73,
Phil NS7P
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Report for May 9th, 2010

[Philippe Trottet]

Hi Roger,
Was a real pleasure to contact u for the 1st time. (no directional antenna on 
my side, only a 84m loop)
Apreciated the long chat with Brendan EI6IZ at the end of the net.
Will Call again 17:45Z next Sunday for qsp.
73's
Philippe A65BI

http://www.qrz.com/callsign/A65BI
>>> Roger Stein  10-05-2010 7:51 >>>
I successfully cured my RFI issues when trying to use my NCL-2000 amplifier
last week! The answer was on the Elecraft website:


http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/K3_Application_Note_Front_Panel_Microphone_Grounding.pdf
 

Thanks to Paul W9AC for steering me in that direction.  My K3 is #75...all
of the current K3's had that issue taken care of by Elecraft quite some time
ago.

There were 28 check-ins from today's operation with Phillipe being the most
distant station from this QTH at 7424.9 miles!! He was on just a few minutes
before net operations were started.  Here are the check-ins:

A65BI,Phillipe,UAE,K3,3616
KA0NCR,Arnie,NE,K3,185
VE3QF,Tony,ON,K3,137
K4GCJ,Garry,NC,K3,1597
NT5Q,Grant,NM,K3,3179
W4RKS,Jim,AL,K3,3618
KG9D,Norm,TN,K3 4064
W7NMD,Palmer,AR,K3,3779
NF4L,Mike,FL ,K3,3539
W8NMO,Harry,OH,K3,3166
EI6IZ,Brendan,EI,K3,39
N6CCH,Rebar,CA,K3,3680
K6CRC,Randy,CA,K3,2051
AB2TC,Ken,NY,K3,82
W7QHD,Kurt,AZ,K2,1538
K7RMT,Bud,TX,K3,4086
NV5E,Rob,TX,K3,1417
W8OV,Dave,TX,K3,3139
KD6QM,Jim,AZ,K2,4231
KB7YH,Gus,CO,K3,441
K6OSX,Darrin,CA,K3,330
W6TUK,Chuck,CA,K3,3032
K8DHA,John,MI,K3,3012
AF1E,Joe,NC,K3,4091
W4PFM,Paul,VA,K3,1673
Ke4INM,Jim,FL,K3,3307
KL7UW,Ed,AK,K3,4043,12W
AE5JD,Bart,TX,K3,2106

Thanks to Gus KB7YH for some relay work!

Please report any errors in the following list to me. (The list is in
comma-separated format for easy importing.

Thanks all es 73!!

K7SJ Roger
Shelton, WA
K3 #75
to a spreadsheet or database as a *.CVS file if you wish.)
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Re: [Elecraft] 2.1 kHz filter - K3

[Philippe Trottet]

In addition to the 2.8 Khz,  I'm using the 1.8Khz (starting 2.1) , and also the 
1khz (starting 1.6khz) used both in ssb & cw. 
Sure with some little alteration of the voice but it is really a must in severe 
qrm environment as mine (no directional antenna and a lot  of pirates, 
fishermens etcvery active on that part of the world.)
One example, on the low part of 20m, specifically on 14.122,3 usb we have 
fishermens, Tamoul language, every day and we have the French speaking dx 
window for FO, FK on 14.122. 
Even those illegal user are sometimes 59+ I'm able to pursue qso's at a 300hz 
difference that never happens with my previous rigs. As I say voice is 
alterated but readible when playing with the FC and width ~1.5Khz even less.
In that case I'm just increasing my power because I'm sure those fishermens are 
using marine rigs and do not have the selectivity of the Elecraft's... and they 
qsy most of time.
73's
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616


>>> "Michael M. Raskin"  09-05-2010 2:24 >>>
I have the 2.8 kHz filter in the main receiver and want to supplement that 
with either the 2.1 kHz or 1.8 kHz filter.  A friend who has the 1.8 thought 
is was too narrow.  What are you guys using?  Anyone have all three?

Mike, W4UM 

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Announcement

[Philippe Trottet]

Will be there,  starting to call 17:45. In advance tks for the qsp.
73's
Philippe A65BI

>>> Phil Shepard  08-05-2010 8:19 >>>
The weekly Elecraft SSB net will meet this Sunday (5/9) at 1800Z on  
14.314 MHz. Roger, K7SJ, will be NCS with help from Gus, KD0QH. Join  
them.

73,
Phil, NS7P
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Announcement

[Philippe Trottet]

Normally I will show my presence  around 17:45Z.
In advance thanks for the qsp from Bob VE3XM or Tony VE3QF. 
Bst 73's
Philippe A65BI

>>> Phil Shepard  02-05-2010 3:05 >>>
The weekly Elecraft SSB net meets tomorrow (5/2) at 1800z on 14.314  
MHz. I will not be available to be NCS. If anyone wants to step  
forward to fill in, please feel free to do so. It's not hard - the  
group is friendly. I hope you have a great one.
73,
Phil NS7P
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB net results (4-25-10)

[Philippe Trottet]

Hi Phil,
Things are coming better even with a low SFI.
I was listening a bit your voice when calling me but still no strong enough to 
get up to my ground noise. 
W7WLL was also heard for few seconds with clear audio !
Thanks again to tony VE3QF for the qsp and happy to contact Wolf  DK1IP with 
strong sig from Germany.
Hope to contact more Elecrafters in the future.
73's
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616


>>> "Phillip Shepard"  26-04-2010 6:25 >>>
We had another good net today, even though most signals were not that
strong. We had 27 participants over the 34 minute net.  We had two from over
the pond (A65BI and DK1IP).
Here is the list of the group:

StationNameQTHRigS/N

VE3QFTonyONK3137
A65BIPhilippeUAEK33616
K4GCJGarryNCK31597
W0FMTerryMOK3474
W4RKSJimALK33618
KD0HIIBrianIAK33672
WB5GCXOscarOKK33647
W4PFMPaulVAK31673
W9DVMPhilFLK31605
NT5QDonNMK34179
W5ETJGaryTXK33227
W7WLLDonORK31 (?)
AE6ICFredCAK32241
W1DFBDonMAK32937
AC0NMGlennAZK32843
KD6QMJimAZK3IC706
KA0NCRArnieNEK3185
DK1IPWolfGerK31135
KB3FBRJoePAK26178
K7SJRogerWAK375
N3ATLamarPAK25 Watts
KL7QOMMikeAKK33114
W4MDKMikeGAK33738
AA3CSChuckMDK34072
KG7UYDennisORK21982
K7RMTBudTXK34086
NS7PPhilORK31826


73,

Phil, NS7P



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Re: [Elecraft] Wow! Nice Knobs :-)

[Philippe Trottet]

Really nice looking but what would be the effects of the extra weight on the 
axis after extended use ?
73's
Philippe A65BI

>>> "Tom W8JI"  23-04-2010 2:17 >>>
Maybe I'm missing something???

Doesn't just sliding the K3 knob on so it just kisses the 
felt washers do the same thing?

The K3 knob seems plenty heavy to me.

I was thinking though, if extra weight was needed, I would 
take it to a local crankshaft shop and have a few slugs of 
mallory metal inserted. A slug of mallory metal is only $40.

:-)

73 Tom




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Expert 1K-FA

[Philippe Trottet]

Hi Bob,
I will apologize because I responded to quickly thinking all Hams are
like me...by bad habit.
I will not listed here problems faced with not properly designed ALC's
during the past and as Hams we are suppose to go a bit further to keep
the maximum of our equipment...within the limits.
As the original importer it is your duty to write it and I fully agee
with your comments. 
ALC is useful for full auto Amps, specially the solid states one.
During my all career in Telecoms started 1972, I never burned any Amp
(Ham & Broadcast), solid state or valves by overdriving. 
But I read carefully the specs before testing any new equipment and
have costly equipment in my pro lab to monitor it, that is not the case
of most of Hams. 
So again mea culpa.
 
Bst 73's
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616
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>>> "Bob Naumann"  21-04-2010 16:36 >>>
Before this faulty opinion proliferates any further; what applies to
tube amps does not follow with solid state amps.

ALC is required by most manufacturers of solid state amps to prevent
overdriving and the resulting damage to the amplifier. ALC is the
mechanism used to achieve this protection.

We were the original USA importer of the Expert 1KFA and it requires
ALC. Tokyo Hy-Power does as well.

Can you manually limit your output from your radio and avoid damage?
Yes. Even so, why take the risk? Hook up the ALC and adjust it according
to the amplifier manufacturer's instruction.

If it is not working correctly, refer the problem to the amplifier
manufacturer or dealer.

So, please do not advise someone with a solid state amp to disconnect
their ALC- unless you want to assume the cost of repairs.

73,

Bob W5OV
Array Solutions
(Tokyo Hy-Power Dealer)

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Philippe
Trottet
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 2:52 AM
To: Franco Cazzaniga; Arie Kleingeld PA3A
Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Expert 1K-FA

Hi Franco,
Fully agree Arie's comments, I'm not using an auto Amp. only a manual
one with a Russian tetrode, and only checked on the K3 that the time
delay corresponds to the amp specs and that's all. 
With my K3-100, most of the time I'm driving it with 12W and the
output
with my amp is ±350W thats cover most of my applications.  At 13W it
engage the KPA100 for higher power needs.
Just set the K3 to the power level you want to use without going over
the specs of your equipment.

Bst 73's
Philippe A65BI

>>> "Arie Kleingeld PA3A"  21-04-2010 11:25 >>>
Franco,

Forget about the ALC.
Up till now I have never used the ALC between my TRX and PA. No need
to.
Just gently set the power of the trx yourself to drive the PA to the
right powerlevel and go.

73
Arie PA3A

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-

Hello
I  use the Expert 1K-FA  with K3 full power and ALC , but i think i
have
two issue.
When i use K3 full power ( with Expert full power ) the rig output  is
not  stable but fluctuates around 15 watt and more or less of 5 watt ,
and of course the output of Expert varies consequently .
When i use Expert half power i have not issue , the input and output
power are stable.
Another issue is that when i put the Expert in STBY , the K3 output
power does not return instantly at 100 w , but slowly in 3 - 4
seconds.
When i not use the ALC i have not issue.
Thank you
Franco I6QFZ

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Expert 1K-FA

[Philippe Trottet]

Hi Franco,
Fully agree Arie's comments, I'm not using an auto Amp. only a manual
one with a Russian tetrode, and only checked on the K3 that the time
delay corresponds to the amp specs and that's all. 
With my K3-100, most of the time I'm driving it with 12W and the output
with my amp is ±350W thats cover most of my applications.  At 13W it
engage the KPA100 for higher power needs.
Just set the K3 to the power level you want to use without going over
the specs of your equipment.
 
Bst 73's
Philippe A65BI

>>> "Arie Kleingeld PA3A"  21-04-2010 11:25 >>>
Franco,

Forget about the ALC.
Up till now I have never used the ALC between my TRX and PA. No need
to.
Just gently set the power of the trx yourself to drive the PA to the
right powerlevel and go.

73
Arie PA3A

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-

Hello
I  use the Expert 1K-FA  with K3 full power and ALC , but i think i
have
two issue.
When i use K3 full power ( with Expert full power ) the rig output  is
not  stable but fluctuates around 15 watt and more or less of 5 watt ,
and of course the output of Expert varies consequently .
When i use Expert half power i have not issue , the input and output
power are stable.
Another issue is that when i put the Expert in STBY , the K3 output
power does not return instantly at 100 w , but slowly in 3 - 4
seconds.
When i not use the ALC i have not issue.
Thank you
Franco I6QFZ

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Re: [Elecraft] World Amateur Radio Day

[Philippe Trottet]

FYI
73'S
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616

>>> "EARS"  16-04-2010 8:17 >>>
Dear All :
 
We are pleased to  invite you  to participate us in our  celebration with World 
Amateur Radio Day in our HQ on Sunday 18 April 2010
 
With special call sign A6WAD 
 
Best regards 
 
EARS
 
73
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] DSP Upgrade and Serial Number

[Philippe Trottet]

MENU- CONFIG EXTD, TECH MD=ONturn the B knob until SER NUM.
or
Download the K3_EZ SOFTWARE
then go to K3 info, ur S/N will be showed
73's
Philippe A65BI



>>> Brett Howard  13-03-2010 12:31 >>>
So where is the SN stored in the K3?  The people who received new upgraded
DSP boards in the mail; did you get the serial number of the guy who had
that board before you?  When I got the upgraded DSP board I sent my board in
and had it reworked so all my info was the same but the swaparoo makes me
wonder if you end up with a new serial too. I gotta admit as a CW op I hate
my SN (1116) but I still love my K3 so it balances out.

Not a big deal either way this goes. I'm just curious. Thank god I'm not a
cat!

~Brett (KC7OTG)
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Re: [Elecraft] K-3: Best filter for SSB Contesting?

[Philippe Trottet]

The 1.5k is out of stock and not be sure it will be availble from INRAD anymore.
http://www.inrad.net/product.php?productid=299&cat=140&page=1

Personally I have ordered the 1K as it starts at bw60= 1.650 and will program 
it at 1.6K to use it for both cw & ssb 
http://www.inrad.net/product.php?productid=156&cat=140

Some mentionned in the qth.net they have already tested this method,  who seem 
given good results in severe ssb interferences. Will see when the filter will 
be on my desk and intalled.
73's
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616


>>> Brett Howard  12-03-2010 12:01 >>>
I'd select the 1.5K filter

~Brett

On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 22:37 -0500, r...@aol.com wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>  
> For SSB contesting: if your K-3 radio had the stock 2.7khz filter and you  
> could only select one optional roofing filter for SSB contesting, would you  
> select the 2.1khz or 1.8khz?  
>  
> I'm mainly a CW operator and have one blank remaining for either a 2.1khz  
> or 1.8khz filter.
>  
> Thanks for your thoughts!
>  
> 73,
> Dick- K9OM
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Re: [Elecraft] K-3: Best filter for SSB Contesting?

[Philippe Trottet]

Do not hesitate: 1.8khz then with the K3 utility you modify the start point to 
2.1, you will see the improvement in  strong interferences. 
73s
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616

>>>  12-03-2010 7:37 >>>
Hi Guys,
 
For SSB contesting: if your K-3 radio had the stock 2.7khz filter and you  
could only select one optional roofing filter for SSB contesting, would you  
select the 2.1khz or 1.8khz?  
 
I'm mainly a CW operator and have one blank remaining for either a 2.1khz  
or 1.8khz filter.
 
Thanks for your thoughts!
 
73,
Dick- K9OM
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] LPF DSP modification

[Philippe Trottet]

Forget: DSP Board "C"

James,
I've received the lpf module within 2 weeks following the order and installed 
it two days ago.
Very simple to install. Use a thin cutter for airplane mock-up, soldering iron 
with fine tip. Do not forget the wrist strap w/1Megohm resitor.
Just follow step by step,10 pages, the installation procedure.

Can feel the difference in my Sony MDR 7505 headsets, the listening is less 
aggressive to the ears on cw & ssb weak signals in a noisy environment like 
mine, industrial area, making some improvment on weak signals.

Thanks to Elecraft for that useful add-up.
73's
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616

>>> K2QI  08-03-2010 19:47 >>>
Just saw that Elecraft is now offering a DIY kit to upgrade your current DSP
board with the LPF module.  This is a good option as the current exchange
program is taking waaay too long.  I was on the list to receive an upgraded
board since early December and still nothing.  I finally decided to take
myself off the list, and I think I'll pursue the DIY option instead.

Anyway, just going over the instructions and I'm curious as to how you guys
that have done this mod have gone about cutting the two traces?  Would an
exacto knife work?

73 de James K2QI

P.S.  Hope you all had fun during this weekend's ARRL DX contest... I
participated just for fun and was able to bag a few countries I didn't have
before.
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] LPF DSP modification

[Philippe Trottet]

James,
I've received the lpf module within 2 weeks following the order and installed 
it two days ago.
Very simple to install. Use a thin cutter for airplane mock-up, soldering iron 
with fine tip. Do not forget the wrist strap w/1Megohm resitor.
Just follow step by step,10 pages, the installation procedure.

Can feel the difference in my Sony MDR 7505 headsets, the listening is less 
aggressive to the ears on cw & ssb weak signals in a noisy environment like 
mine, industrial area, making some improvment on weak signals.

Thanks to Elecraft for that useful add-up.
73's
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616

>>> K2QI  08-03-2010 19:47 >>>
Just saw that Elecraft is now offering a DIY kit to upgrade your current DSP
board with the LPF module.  This is a good option as the current exchange
program is taking waaay too long.  I was on the list to receive an upgraded
board since early December and still nothing.  I finally decided to take
myself off the list, and I think I'll pursue the DIY option instead.

Anyway, just going over the instructions and I'm curious as to how you guys
that have done this mod have gone about cutting the two traces?  Would an
exacto knife work?

73 de James K2QI

P.S.  Hope you all had fun during this weekend's ARRL DX contest... I
participated just for fun and was able to bag a few countries I didn't have
before.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - 'High Isolation Headphones'

[Philippe Trottet]

Dears,
I'm using a SONY MDR 7505 since 2003 with various rigs. 
Not a noise cancelling headphone but great comfort, with a very clear
audio on cw, ssb & am/fm.
Power (mW):1000 
Impedance: 24 Ω 
Frequency response: 10Hz - 25Khz 
Sensibility (dB / W / m): 106 
Weight: 220g without cable
73's
Philippe A65BI  (F5LTB)
K3#3616

>>> Barry N1EU  03-03-2010 2:02 >>>


AD4C2009 wrote:
> 
> Well I spent this past weekend 18 hours in radio on saturday and
sunday
> with my Yamaha CM-500 on my head all the time,either on CW or SSB and
felt
> no tired,they are smooth and weight little in my head,isolation is
> perfect.
> 

I just wanted to post a follow-up message on this thread.  I just
acquired a
CM500 headset - they seem to perform quite well but they can hardly be
considered a high isolation headphone.  The isolation is about the same
as
the Heil ProSet but falls far short of the Sennheiser HD280.  The
CM500
isn't really suitable if you follow the K3NA approach toward
maximizing
dynamic range with AGC off.  On the other hand, the CM500 seems quite
good
indeed for normal operation with AGC on and the microphone gets great
audio
reports.

73, Barry N1EU

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (2-21-10)

[Philippe Trottet]

Hi Phil,
Hope to put my name on the list soon as cycle 24 seems to start...finally like 
an albatross who need some distance to take off.
Bst 73's
Philippe A65BI

>>> "Phillip Shepard"  22-02-2010 8:50 >>>
We had a very good net today.  Signals were generally good, and we had 37
participants over the 40 minute net.  We had check-ins that spanned from
Ireland (EI6IZ, Brendan who peaked at S9 in Oregon off the side of my quad)
through New Zealand (ZL1PWD, Peter). The discussions centered on information
about the P3 and the status and options on the DSP upgrade.  

Here is the list of the group:

StationNameQTHRigS/N

AB1DDCarlVTK33782
VE3QFTonyONK3137
AE6ICFredCAK32241
K8EAGGilMIK399
N9QRMikeINK33786
W1DFBDonMAK32937
N1LQDaveMAK3371
W0NTADickCOK31208
W4RKSJimALK33618
W0FMTerryMOK3474
KA0NCRArnieNEK3185
W5EWAStanTXK3690
AI4VZGeorgeGAK32412
W0GIBobCOK33903
KB0YHGusCOK3441
K8MBYPhilOHK3609
W6VYBobCAK31590
N3XPDMikePAK24935
W6FXEDavidCAFT101ZD
K4GCJGarryNCK31597
NF4LMikeFLK33539
KB9VHAMarkILK33487
N9YKEDonWIK32505
W8YMOHarryOHK3166
KB9ZUVGaryINIC751A
N3CAQDavePAK33788
W4PFMBobVAK31673
EI6IZBrendanEIK339
AD4CHectorFLK32192
K4CCHCharlesGAK33509
VE4QZDougMBK31021
ZL1PWDPeterNZK3139
VE5GAMGlenSKTS530S
WA1RMBobMAJupiter
W6TUKScottCAK3
KC7OTGBrettORFT101E
NS7PPhilORK31826


73,

Phil, NS7P


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Re: [Elecraft] For you Anti-Scopes

[Philippe Trottet]

Hi Eric,
Good to know, I will order one when we will be able to place the on-line order 
for the P3.
73's
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616
*Elecraft, by Hams, for Hams...What else ? 

>>> "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft"  17-02-2010 22:05 >>>
your K3 will need to have the KXV3 or KXV3a for IF output. Its not 
included with the P3 since most K3s already have added it.

I/Q is not available as an output. That would seriously delay the P3 
release and add to our cost. Its not a trivial add since its only 
derived internally in the DSPPIC that drives the P3. We may be able to 
add it as a future option. Stay tuned!

73, Eric


On 2/17/2010 9:28 AM, Ted Roycraft wrote:
> Eric,
>
> That's good but two questions...
>
> 1) If you purchase a P3, do you also have to purchase a KXV3A or will
> one be included?
>
> 2) In addition to the buffered K3 IF feedthrough, will the inphase (I)
> and quadrature (Q) audio components of the downshifted IF be provided as
> an additional output (ala LP-PAN)?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ted, W2ZK
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Re: [Elecraft] Testing my DSP

[Philippe Trottet]

Yes hector but you mentioned on the previous your AGC for cw is off.
When AGC is off the NR is deactivated on the K3   Am I wrong ?
73's

Philippe A65BI
K3#33616
*Elecraft, by Hams for Hams...What else ?


>>> Hector Padron  17-02-2010 8:16 >>>
You can hear my DSP working in CW on this link,the station signal was 579 on 
40M,the noise is cancelled almost complete,the settings used for NR was F1-3

http://www.ad4c.us/Elecraft%20K3/shared%20files%20from%20K3%20users/AD4C%20recordings%20on%20his%20K3/CW%20station%20turning%20NR%20ON%20and%20OFF%20several%20times.mp3
 

AD4C

"For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3"


  
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Re: [Elecraft] P3

[Philippe Trottet]

P 130 is blank on the pdf document !
73's
Philippe A65BI

>>> Kok Chen  16-02-2010 14:16 >>>

On Feb 16, 2010, at 12:39 AM, turnbull wrote:

> When you write the manual for the P3 would you please include a good 
> explanation of the use of waterfall displays.  I have one on my OII but do 
> not fully understand its benefits.   

Spectrograms, such as "waterfalls," make use of your eye-brain system to help 
find signals that are below the noise level, especially when signals are 
drifting and don't allow temporal averaging methods.

You can see an example of its use (1971) here:

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19730010095_1973010095.pdf 

Fig 11-7 on page 130 (although poorly reproduced in the PDF scan) and the text 
on that page explains its use for discovering very, very weak and very, very DX 
signals.

In the amateur world, the first use of waterfalls was by Skip KH6TY in his 
Digipan program, I believe.  Without Digipan and the ease of "waterfall 
tuning," PSK31 probably would not have become as popular as it is today.  

With the addition of some special filtering, you can make a waterfall see even 
deeper into the noise when the signal is not drifting. The two figures here

http://homepage.mac.com/chen/w7ay/cocoaModem/UsersManual/mfskManual/mfskManual/dominoex.html#weak
 

show the same weak DominoEX signal with 18 FSK carriers.  The top figure is 
what the weak signal looks like in a simple waterfall, and the figure at the 
bottom, with the same input SNR, takes advantage of a signal that is not 
drifting, as explained in the accompanying text.  

In the digital world, you can't work them unless you can *see* them :-).

A good waterfall display will also show a CW signal that you can't hear, and 
can make "zero beating" a virtually instantaneous effort.  Or zero beating to a 
synchronous AM carrier, etc etc.

73
Chen, W7AY

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 at Orlando hamfest pictures and movies

[Philippe Trottet]

Ah Ah... P3 must have a bidet with a rotary jet and brakes on the spare wheel  
!!
Next time some will ask for planet diversity.
 
73's
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616
* Elecraft, by Hams, for Hams...What else ?

>>>  16-02-2010 1:49 >>>
> My major disappointment is that, in my admittedly non-expert opinion, the P3 
COULD have had similar functionality to an SDR-IQ but for some reason doesn't. 


My major disappointment is that the P3 COULD have been fully equivalent to an 
Agilent E4448A, 
and have been able to run Skype and deliver speech-to-text decode of all SSB 
QSO's in at 
least a 500Khz bandwidth range in 14 languages, while offering Windoze and 
Linux virtual 
machines (under OS X naturally) for running other applications.  Why was this 
not included in the 
initial firmware?  

Clearly, Elecraft just doesn't understand their served market 
and could use some serious help with their business strategies ... 

Grant/NQ5T 
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Re: [Elecraft] I'm having a bad day.

[Philippe Trottet]

Hi Ken,
We can filter the subject as I do,  some "external" subject do not appear on my 
list.
Best regards to Rose.
73's
Philippe A65BI

>>> "Ken Kopp"  15-02-2010 23:09 >>>
Hello Larry,

No, you've seen same the posts to the reflector as the rest of us.
The number of posts about non-Elecraft radios haven't in any way
reduced the number of Elecraft-related posts.  You haven't missed 
anything, unless you've chosen not to read something.

LP-PAN and Softrock subjects -are- important to a large number 
of Elecraft owners.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
  K2 #5665
  K3 #56
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Re: [Elecraft] I'm having a bad day.

[Philippe Trottet]

Hi Ken,
We can filter the subject as I do,  some "external" subject do not appear on my 
list.
Best regards to Rose.
73's
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616

>>> "Ken Kopp"  15-02-2010 23:09 >>>
Hello Larry,

No, you've seen same the posts to the reflector as the rest of us.
The number of posts about non-Elecraft radios haven't in any way
reduced the number of Elecraft-related posts.  You haven't missed 
anything, unless you've chosen not to read something.

LP-PAN and Softrock subjects -are- important to a large number 
of Elecraft owners.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
  K2 #5665
  K3 #56
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Re: [Elecraft] Kenwood's Future

[Philippe Trottet]

May be, Others 3% !

>>> KE4INM  16-02-2010 0:07 >>>
I may be mistaken, but I don't see Amateur Radio in there future. Check out
the JVC-Kenwood Holdings Website.

http://www.jk-holdings.com/en/corporate/strategy/index.html 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 & Competition

[Philippe Trottet]

Dear Bob,
Welcome to the club
I answered you outside the Elecraft list about my mic settings and small trick 
learn when joined the Army in the early seventies. 
We are all surprised at the starting point because we have do to our own setup 
as the majority of parameters are adjustable and compare to other "limousine" 
rigs, the K3 is a "Nascar" rig where you must always adjust to get it best on 
any situation like on a race track where you can go beyond the limit if needed 
and this waked up my Ham spirit after decades using rigs where everything is on 
a plate...plug and play, no fun !
 
Bst 73's
Philippe  A65BI
K3#3616
*Elecraft, by Hams, for Hams...What else ?

>>> Bob - W0GI  15-02-2010 8:28 >>>


You joke about  catching up with the K2. The Kenwood TS830s is a 30 year old
radio that has  performance thats better  than  the K2 in many areas. It is
the case of the K2 catching up with the 30 year old TS830S!


The TS-830S was/is a fine radio.  It is a prime example of the error of
adding general coverage to HF rigs. It was ham band only, and better then
80% of the current rigs.

Receiver performance has gone down hill, just to add general coverage and a
zillion buttons. Not the case with my old Ten-Tec Corsair or the Omni-V. I
had a Paragon for a while, and it was ok, but not up to the ham band only
rigs.

What Elecraft did with the K2, is design a Ham HF rig for top performance on
our bands. Single conversion like my old Corsair, that works very well.

I hesitated to sell the Corsair and the Omni-V, as they are first class CW
rigs, but the K3 is incredible. I don't miss them at all, other then for
sentimental reasons. I needed K3 money, and they got sold.

No matter what the future holds, we can thank Elecraft for putting a fire
under those Japanese butts. 

Some of us want performance. Where they still don't get it, is they will
continue to produce performance by price point.

If you want top performance, you will also pay for buttons, knobs, and HD
LCD screens, and pay top dollar.

Yes, they can design radios that perform, but they won't perform until you
pay $6000+.

I have had my new K3 online for 12 days. It now has an LP-Pan, HRD,
PowerSDR, and CW skimmer configured, and there is nothing for any price that
can perform better. Maybe an IC-7800 doesn't need all the interface boxes
and wires, but I like this setup, and it was 1/4 the price.

I am so impressed with this setup, that I doubt I will even think about a
new rig for a long, long time. I still like the Mark-V, but I have a feeling
that it may be gone soon, as I get used to the K2 ergonomics. But the Mark-V
is a good SWL radio. :>)

For now, I am finishing setup, and I am just going to work stations. A lot
of stations, with a big smile on my face.

73 - Bob


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Re: [Elecraft] Considering K3

[Philippe Trottet]

Dear Emilse,
Welcome.
ON4UN, one of the low band masters sold out its 2 Ten Tech Orion around
2 years ago and get 2x K3's... It is not an hazard and John easily
convinced me.
Considering my job I have tested/used all pro and ham products on the
market from decades and I'm a proud Electrafter today. 
No other "usual" Ham radio provider are able to provide such good after
sale service and one of the major point: they are listening the users
comments in order to upgrade the rigs on the right way to our
satisfactory.
Bst 73's
Philippe A65BI  (F5LTB)
K3#3616
*Elecraft, by Hams, for Hams...What else !
 


>> Emilse Peraza  14-02-2010 4:59 >>>

HI all , I am considering to buy a new radio and I am between the K3
and the IC 7600, I have read very good things about K3, although I don't
know anybody near me that have one, so I would like to hear comments in
why to go for the K3 and if someone live near Ogden UT that would like
to shoe me their K3 would be awesome. TNX


EMILSE 
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Re: [Elecraft] Man Hospitalized - related incident

[Philippe Trottet]

Some relaxation time in this world of brutes have never harmed a person. It's a 
hobby first !
Cheers
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616
 
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>>> Radio Amateur N5GE  10-02-2010 19:26 >>>
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:16:02 EST, k...@aol.com wrote:

Enough.  This is not an audition reflector for comedians.

Please take it off line.

Thanks,

Tom, N5GE

n...@n5ge.com 
K3 #806 with SUB RX, K3 #1055, PR6,
XV144, XV432, KRC2,
W1, 2 W2's and other small kits

1 K144XV on order

http://www.n5ge.com 
http://www.swotrc.net 

>In a related incident, another ham-radio  enthusiast, Hezekiah Bambershoot, 
>of Ft Jackson, was arrested at police  headquarters for disorderly conduct 
>and assaulting a police officer.   Bambershoot initially came to 
>headquarters reporting he had been victimized  buying a radio from a 
>mysterious 
>Californian named Ellie Craft.   
>
>Ms Craft allegedly took advantage of Bambershoot by claiming to  have 
>down-conversion which he mistook for a syndrome of the same name.   
>Bambershoot 
>was happy with his purchase until his friends told him how foolish  he had 
>been.  
>
>According to Police spokesman, Ken Wood, "The poor  man was distraught and 
>raving about roofing filters.  What the heck are  they?"  The arrest report 
>filed by fellow-ham and officer, Ike Com, listed  Bambershoot's original 
>complaint as "radio mushiness" but notes, "I told him all  my radios sound 
>mushy but he was upset he couldn't hear it on his.  When we  tried to calm him 
>down he became unruly."
>
>Su Yae, an EMT called to the  scene, defended Bambershoot saying, "When I 
>got there he was on the floor  repeating 'A, G, C, Slope, Pre and A T T' over 
>and over.  He was  babbling.  They claimed he was clicking his heels but I 
>didn't hear  anything.  The poor man was just frustrated because his 
>purchase had so  many faults he couldn't find.  I feel sorry for him."   
>
>Bambershoot is being held on $10,000 bond.  Police are still  searching for 
>the elusive Ellie Craft.
>
>Buck
>k4ia
>
>In a  message dated 2/9/2010 6:22:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
>alor...@sbcglobal.net  writes:
>MAN HOSPITALIZED WITH ANXIETY OVER HAM RADIO
>
>Southland County  Morning News
>
>Southland -- A ham radio enthusiast was admitted to County  Hospital today 
>suffering from anxiety over what he perceived as serious problems  with his 
>new radio, authorities reported Tuesday.
>
>Irv Stumpo, 55, of East  Pharsalia, checked into the emergency room "in 
>distress," according to the nurse  on watch just before midnight Tuesday. "He 
>was perspiring profusely and moaning  over and over, 'My K-3 is no good, no 
>good'," said Paula Stevens, a nurse at  County. "He had enormous headphones 
>clamped tightly on his head which we had a  ton of difficulty removing, and 
>he was also wearing ear buds," she said. "Isn't  that strange? He was half 
>incoherent but kept mumbling something about dynamic  range and audio 
>artifacts. I have no idea what that means."
>
>Randy LaHood,  a fifteen year emergency room veteran, said that during an 
>examination Mr.  Stumpo went into considerable technical detail about a radio 
>he had recently  purchased from Elecraft, a company that makes high-end ham 
>radios. "He began by  explaining that his radio had 'noisy receiver' and 
>'mushy signals'," explained  Dr. LaHood. "From what I could gather, he had 
>just spent a lot of money on a  radio and hadn't actually noticed any of these 
>problems himself, but others in a  internet group kept putting the ideas 
>into his head," he said. Over a course of  weeks, Stumpo became distraught 
>over 
>various imperfections in what Dr. LaHood  said was a classic case of the 
>power of suggestion.
>
>The hospital records  also said that Stumpo drew mathematical figures he 
>labeled "AGC slope", and  filled four pages by writing "AGC off", "Ear 
>Isolation" and "K3" repeatedly.  Hospital officials could not explain the 
>cryptic 
>scribblings.
>
>Dr. LaHood  said that Stumpo repeated the phrase "mushy AGC" for at least 
>four hours while  he waited for treatment. Other patients who were in the 
>waiting room at the time  moved to the other side of the room for fear he 
>might 
>endanger them. J. B.  Archer was one of those in the waiting room at the 
>time who had brought in his  twelve-year-old son with a basketball injury. 
>"Good ol' boy was pretty upset, I  just told him it would be alright, but he 
>wouldn't let up with 'I can't pick out  the pileups'. I thought he had been 
>involved in a big accident on the highway.  Then he said other things like 
>'the impedance of my headphones' and 'ride the R.  F. gain'. Then he started 
>with 'diversity problem' and I thought maybe he was  having trouble with 
>racial relations. He was in terrible shape, I'll tell you  that."
>
>Rick Culver, president of a local ham radio club, told the Morning  News in 
>a telephone interview, "A lot of these guys spend five or ten thousand  
>dollars on a r

Re: [Elecraft] Man Hospitalized - related incident

[Philippe Trottet]

Great !!! 
We will see soon a 3D-SP movie picture scenario  Hi !
73's
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616

*Elecraft, by Hams, for Hams...What else !

>>>  10-02-2010 15:16 >>>
In a related incident, another ham-radio  enthusiast, Hezekiah Bambershoot, 
of Ft Jackson, was arrested at police  headquarters for disorderly conduct 
and assaulting a police officer.   Bambershoot initially came to 
headquarters reporting he had been victimized  buying a radio from a mysterious 
Californian named Ellie Craft.   

Ms Craft allegedly took advantage of Bambershoot by claiming to  have 
down-conversion which he mistook for a syndrome of the same name.   Bambershoot 
was happy with his purchase until his friends told him how foolish  he had 
been.  

According to Police spokesman, Ken Wood, "The poor  man was distraught and 
raving about roofing filters.  What the heck are  they?"  The arrest report 
filed by fellow-ham and officer, Ike Com, listed  Bambershoot's original 
complaint as "radio mushiness" but notes, "I told him all  my radios sound 
mushy but he was upset he couldn't hear it on his.  When we  tried to calm him 
down he became unruly."

Su Yae, an EMT called to the  scene, defended Bambershoot saying, "When I 
got there he was on the floor  repeating 'A, G, C, Slope, Pre and A T T' over 
and over.  He was  babbling.  They claimed he was clicking his heels but I 
didn't hear  anything.  The poor man was just frustrated because his 
purchase had so  many faults he couldn't find.  I feel sorry for him."   

Bambershoot is being held on $10,000 bond.  Police are still  searching for 
the elusive Ellie Craft.

Buck
k4ia

In a  message dated 2/9/2010 6:22:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
alor...@sbcglobal.net  writes:
MAN HOSPITALIZED WITH ANXIETY OVER HAM RADIO

Southland County  Morning News

Southland -- A ham radio enthusiast was admitted to County  Hospital today 
suffering from anxiety over what he perceived as serious problems  with his 
new radio, authorities reported Tuesday.

Irv Stumpo, 55, of East  Pharsalia, checked into the emergency room "in 
distress," according to the nurse  on watch just before midnight Tuesday. "He 
was perspiring profusely and moaning  over and over, 'My K-3 is no good, no 
good'," said Paula Stevens, a nurse at  County. "He had enormous headphones 
clamped tightly on his head which we had a  ton of difficulty removing, and 
he was also wearing ear buds," she said. "Isn't  that strange? He was half 
incoherent but kept mumbling something about dynamic  range and audio 
artifacts. I have no idea what that means."

Randy LaHood,  a fifteen year emergency room veteran, said that during an 
examination Mr.  Stumpo went into considerable technical detail about a radio 
he had recently  purchased from Elecraft, a company that makes high-end ham 
radios. "He began by  explaining that his radio had 'noisy receiver' and 
'mushy signals'," explained  Dr. LaHood. "From what I could gather, he had 
just spent a lot of money on a  radio and hadn't actually noticed any of these 
problems himself, but others in a  internet group kept putting the ideas 
into his head," he said. Over a course of  weeks, Stumpo became distraught over 
various imperfections in what Dr. LaHood  said was a classic case of the 
power of suggestion.

The hospital records  also said that Stumpo drew mathematical figures he 
labeled "AGC slope", and  filled four pages by writing "AGC off", "Ear 
Isolation" and "K3" repeatedly.  Hospital officials could not explain the 
cryptic 
scribblings.

Dr. LaHood  said that Stumpo repeated the phrase "mushy AGC" for at least 
four hours while  he waited for treatment. Other patients who were in the 
waiting room at the time  moved to the other side of the room for fear he might 
endanger them. J. B.  Archer was one of those in the waiting room at the 
time who had brought in his  twelve-year-old son with a basketball injury. 
"Good ol' boy was pretty upset, I  just told him it would be alright, but he 
wouldn't let up with 'I can't pick out  the pileups'. I thought he had been 
involved in a big accident on the highway.  Then he said other things like 
'the impedance of my headphones' and 'ride the R.  F. gain'. Then he started 
with 'diversity problem' and I thought maybe he was  having trouble with 
racial relations. He was in terrible shape, I'll tell you  that."

Rick Culver, president of a local ham radio club, told the Morning  News in 
a telephone interview, "A lot of these guys spend five or ten thousand  
dollars on a radio they think is going to be absolutely perfect in every  
conceiveable way. When it's not, they go into a panic buying lots of other  
accessories which promise to fix the issue they think they're having. This is  
followed by a deep buyer's remorse." He went on to recount a recent case which 
 epitomized this effect. "We had one guy who had a radio that put out 95 
watts  instead of 100. He went berserk and ended up smashing his radio with a 
baseball  bat. Not 

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Panadapter for the K3 at Orlando Hamfest this weekend

[Philippe Trottet]

Dear Eric,
As I think you'll start with an appeal price in Orlando Hamfest, how a
far foreigner can take advantage of it ?
Bst 73's
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616
*Elecraft, by Hams, for Hams...What else ?
 

Philippe TROTTET 
Head of Field Telecom Unit - DUBAI

 
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>>> "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft"  11-02-2010
6:28 >>>
I'm just finishing up packing for the ARRL Orlando hamfest and will fly

out early tomorrow morning (Thursday).

Just a reminder that I'll have a fully functioning P3 Panadapter for 
theK3 to show at Orlando. See you there!

73, Eric  WA6HHQ

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Re: [Elecraft] Man Hospitalized

[Philippe Trottet]

Great...  and there is still a kernel of truthHi !!
73's
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616
 
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>>> Mike  10-02-2010 3:54 >>>
ROTFLMAO!!!

73, Mike NF4L

Al Lorona wrote:
> MAN HOSPITALIZED WITH ANXIETY OVER HAM RADIO
>
> Southland County Morning News
>
> Southland -- A ham radio enthusiast was admitted to County Hospital today 
> suffering from anxiety over what he perceived as serious problems with his 
> new radio, authorities reported Tuesday.
>
> Irv Stumpo, 55, of East Pharsalia, checked into the emergency room "in 
> distress," according to the nurse on watch just before midnight Tuesday. "He 
> was perspiring profusely and moaning over and over, 'My K-3 is no good, no 
> good'," said Paula Stevens, a nurse at County. "He had enormous headphones 
> clamped tightly on his head which we had a ton of difficulty removing, and he 
> was also wearing ear buds," she said. "Isn't that strange? He was half 
> incoherent but kept mumbling something about dynamic range and audio 
> artifacts. I have no idea what that means."
>
> Randy LaHood, a fifteen year emergency room veteran, said that during an 
> examination Mr. Stumpo went into considerable technical detail about a radio 
> he had recently purchased from Elecraft, a company that makes high-end ham 
> radios. "He began by explaining that his radio had 'noisy receiver' and 
> 'mushy signals'," explained Dr. LaHood. "From what I could gather, he had 
> just spent a lot of money on a radio and hadn't actually noticed any of these 
> problems himself, but others in a internet group kept putting the ideas into 
> his head," he said. Over a course of weeks, Stumpo became distraught over 
> various imperfections in what Dr. LaHood said was a classic case of the power 
> of suggestion.
>
> The hospital records also said that Stumpo drew mathematical figures he 
> labeled "AGC slope", and filled four pages by writing "AGC off", "Ear 
> Isolation" and "K3" repeatedly. Hospital officials could not explain the 
> cryptic scribblings.
>
> Dr. LaHood said that Stumpo repeated the phrase "mushy AGC" for at least four 
> hours while he waited for treatment. Other patients who were in the waiting 
> room at the time moved to the other side of the room for fear he might 
> endanger them. J. B. Archer was one of those in the waiting room at the time 
> who had brought in his twelve-year-old son with a basketball injury. "Good 
> ol' boy was pretty upset, I just told him it would be alright, but he 
> wouldn't let up with 'I can't pick out the pileups'. I thought he had been 
> involved in a big accident on the highway. Then he said other things like 
> 'the impedance of my headphones' and 'ride the R. F. gain'. Then he started 
> with 'diversity problem' and I thought maybe he was having trouble with 
> racial relations. He was in terrible shape, I'll tell you that."
>
> Rick Culver, president of a local ham radio club, told the Morning News in a 
> telephone interview, "A lot of these guys spend five or ten thousand dollars 
> on a radio they think is going to be absolutely perfect in every conceiveable 
> way. When it's not, they go into a panic buying lots of other accessories 
> which promise to fix the issue they think they're having. This is followed by 
> a deep buyer's remorse." He went on to recount a recent case which epitomized 
> this effect. "We had one guy who had a radio that put out 95 watts instead of 
> 100. He went berserk and ended up smashing his radio with a baseball bat. Not 
> everyone gets that violent, but he never would have worried about it if it 
> hadn't been for an internet forum that drummed it into his head twenty four 
> seven that his radio was broken."
>
> Hospital officials said that Stumpo was treated with sedatives and is being 
> kept for observation.
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Re: [Elecraft] AGC & DSP Rain Dance

[Philippe Trottet]

Hi Paul, 
Where is the Ham spirit, even if we are not able today to do our own
equipment as during the past.
Modern Hams became lazzy because technology give us everything on a
plate without any efforts !
May be I'm jurassic but Elecraft waked up my Ham spirit after decades
of using commercial rigs, professionally and on the Ham side.
Bst 73's
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616
 
By Hams, for Hams...What else !
 
 
 

Philippe TROTTET 
Head of Field Telecom Unit - DUBAI

 
United Nations High Commissioner for  Refugees
International Humanitarian City
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Doha Street
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>>> pd0psb  09-02-2010 11:50 >>>

For me,  there are MUCH better uses of time when running  during a
contest
than fooling around dancing with the AGC & DSP  settings.  Further,
dancing
with the AGC & DSP simply isn't  neccessary

Totally agree! We hams should not be experimenting with our equipment,
we
should just buy a radio and make contacts. No need at all to waste any
time
on useless studying the working and technology of our gear. This has
totally
nothing to do with hamradio.

ahum...

73'
Paul
PD0PSB
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Re: [Elecraft] AGC & DSP Rain Dance

[Philippe Trottet]

Hi Paul, 
Where is the Ham spirit, even if we are not able today to do our own
equipment as during the past.
Modern Hams became lazzy because technology give us everything on a
plate without any efforts !
May be I'm jurassic but Elecraft waked up my Ham spirit after decades
of using commercial rigs, professionally and on the Ham side.
Bst 73's
Philippe
K3#3616
 
By Hams, for Hams...What else !
 
 

Philippe TROTTET 
Head of Field Telecom Unit - DUBAI

 
United Nations High Commissioner for  Refugees
International Humanitarian City
Office Building Nº3 - Room 2, 1st Floor
Doha Street
PO BOX: 506013
DUBAI - U.A.E.
 
Dubai time: GMT +4
W: Sunday to Thursday
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Vsat: xx 41 22 7120
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>>> pd0psb  09-02-2010 11:50 >>>

For me,  there are MUCH better uses of time when running  during a
contest
than fooling around dancing with the AGC & DSP  settings.  Further,
dancing
with the AGC & DSP simply isn't  neccessary

Totally agree! We hams should not be experimenting with our equipment,
we
should just buy a radio and make contacts. No need at all to waste any
time
on useless studying the working and technology of our gear. This has
totally
nothing to do with hamradio.

ahum...

73'
Paul
PD0PSB
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Re: [Elecraft] AGC & DSP Rain Dance

[Philippe Trottet]

Fully agree !
Race cars need fine (and often) tuning to get their best for each races, K3's 
are the same.
But my main main thing is to enjoy and have a lot of fun to chase the weak 
signal, specially in big pilups in SSB with my exotic callsign. Using for ssb 
FC: 0.95 and Width: 1.6k (6k, 2.8 & 1.8k filter installed) AGC mainly OFF  in 
that case and do not attempt I will respond first to the biggest signal.  
Use the N1EU AGC settings   http://n1eu.com/  with good results.
Personal rule: ssb=qro if needed but cw, exclusively qrp max 5w or qrpp.
MIC= MH2 and SONY MDR 7505 Headset, Keys: Vibroplex + straight key Siemens 
Baumuster T1, both connected.
 
Bst 73's
Philippe A65BI  (F5LTB)
k3#3616
Elecraft, by Hams, for Hams...What else !

>>> K6LE  09-02-2010 6:46 >>>
Well said!

I'm just glad I bought my K3 before I got too involved in some of the 
discussion on here.   If I hadn't I might not have done it and then I would be 
missing out on this wonderful radio.

To paraphrase what some others have said: "This one is a keeper and I am taking 
it with me to my final resting place!"


Rick
K6LE
#3757

On 2/8/2010, at 6:29 , Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Richard,
> 
> All controls are not for everyone.  There are those who "just want to 
> operate", and the default setting should be their choice.
> For those who want performance enhancement, then several of us are 
> trying to give instructions about how to effectively do that - because 
> the K3 does provide those performance enhancement tools.  We are not 
> making up for deficiencies in the K3 design, but are talking about how 
> to best use the tools available for extreme operating circumstances.  
> These suggestions may not be for everyone.
> 
> Those performance enhancement tools will be used differently depending 
> on the circumstances of band conditions, antenna selection, and operator 
> preferences.  Not everyone will want or need to use those tools.
> 
> Comparing it to driving a high performance vehicle.  If you just want to 
> cruise the streets, the normal settings will suffice, but if you want 
> maximum performance on the race track, you will want to use all the 
> tools at your disposal, and customize them for the track being used and 
> the driver's preferences (these may be different for every race).  Those 
> who want to just use the standard setting for this "race" will likely 
> not come in as front-runners, but they certainly can participate.
> 
> Just how much you want to "dance the AGC up and down" is a decision each 
> owner must decide for him/herself, no one answer fits all.  Use the 
> default settings if you do not want to make any decisions or do not want 
> to do any experimenting (trial runs).  In the meantime, the information 
> gleaned from the various comments here will allow those interested in 
> fine tuning their K3 to do so in an intelligent and orderly manner.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR

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Re: [Elecraft] Rose's Covers & Cases

[Philippe Trottet]

Hi Rob,
I've ordered some of them, still on the way to me
Please find attached the pricing info and links.
Bst 73's
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616

Elecraft, by Hams, for Hams...What else !

>>>  05-02-2010 2:52 >>>
The covers look interesting but I didn't find any pricing info. Is there
somewhere I can find out how much these things cost?

Rob K6RB


> I'd also like to endorse Rose's work. She made me two K3 cases per W0YK's
> DXpedition design (compatible with Ed's foam protectors), and a dust cover
> for my key. Excellent craftsmanship and prompt, courteous service.
>
> 73, Dick WC1M
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: J.A. Wolf, MD, K6JW [mailto:k...@scdxc.org] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 1:19 PM
>> To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Rose's Covers & Cases
>>
>> I just received a dust cover from Rose for my K3: black with the
>> Elecraft
>> logo and name and my callsign embroidered in red. The cover is well
>> done,
> if
>> lighter in weight than some other covers I've had in the past. I
> requested,
>> and Rose provided, a nice cutout on the lower left for the mic and
> headphone
>> cables. A good product, well made, fairly priced, and promptly supplied.
>> I
>> would recommend Rose's work to anyone looking for a dust cover for their
>> Elecraft baby. Rose can be reached at elecraftcov...@rfwave.net. She has
>> a
>> website where you can see her products at http://tinyurl.com/7lm3m5.
>> (Disclosure: I have NO business connection with Rose -- I'm just a
> customer.)
>> --Jeff, K6JW
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC and Apparent Noise and Signal Distortion

[Philippe Trottet]

Hi Paul,
ON4UN, one of the masters of low bands sold out his 2 x Orions almost two years 
ago, replaced by 2 x K3's !! 
It convincing me definitively to move from my Icom limousine to the K3 Indycar 
! 
Thanks to him, great rig and top after sale service. I'm proud today to be a 
Elecrafter
Bst 73's
Philippe A65BI  (F5LTB) 
K3#3616

Elecraft, by Hams, for Hams...what else !

>>> Paul - WW2PT  04-02-2010 21:59 >>>

Interesting reading. I'm surprised none of these contesters got the memo
about how big guns would never buy a K3 because it didn't have 200W or 1,000
knobs on the front panel. I guess they haven't used the K3 enough to see the
inherent flaws...

  ;-)



Bill W4ZV wrote:
> 
> If you want to see more detail of all K3s in the contest, I posted how to
> do that below:
> 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/msg90719.html 
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft web page

[Philippe Trottet]

Hi Gary,
I was travelling when I passed my order last October and it has been
done from an internet Cafe founded on my way.
73's
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616

>>>  27-01-2010 14:11 >>>
Hi,

Does anyone know how to get rid of the website frames?

The order page will not show the complete page of options so I cannot
order a new K3 as I am using a Blackberry only.

No other internet access available.

I had it once before but it appears to be gone. I think the menu on the
left of the home page had an option "No Frames" but I cannot display
that if it still there.

73's
Gary
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Rev. 3.76: Per-band/per-mode NR; FM/repeater/xvtr changes; delayed M>V; message erase

[Philippe Trottet]

"For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3" 

We can add:  Elecraft...By Ham's, for Ham's...What else !

Thanks for the release, already downloaded, great !

73's
Philippe
A65BI
K3#3616


>>> Hector Padron  26-01-2010 6:08 >>>
Cool,!! downloaded and working already in my K3,was waiting for that
separated NR settings per mode,now we are in business,thanks Elecraft
team.
 
AD4C
 


"For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3"

--- On Tue, 1/26/10, Wayne Burdick  wrote:


From: Wayne Burdick 
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Rev. 3.76: Per-band/per-mode NR;
FM/repeater/xvtr changes; delayed M>V; message erase
To: "Elecraft Reflector" ,
elecraft...@yahoogroups.com, elecr...@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 12:30 AM


K3 beta-test firmware revision 3.76 (with DSP rev. 2.52) is now  
available.

This revision has something for just about everyone, but especially  
those who use NR (noise reduction), and those who have (or will soon  
have) a K144XV 2-meter module. See release notes below.

Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For instructions 

on how to load beta firmware, see:

  http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm 

73,
Wayne
N6KR

* * *

MCU 3.76 / DSP 2.52, 1-23-2010


Changes related to K144XV, transverters, FM, and repeaters:

* REPEATER REVerse: If a repeater offset is in use (+/-),
holding REV switches VFO A to the repeater's input frequency.

* RF POWER BARGRAPH: Now shows *tenths of a milliwatt* when
using low-level transverter I/O (applies to both the K144XV and
external transverters). 10 bars = about 1.00 mW at the IF. This
corresponds to about 10 W output when using the K144XV.

* COARSE TUNING WITH XVTR OFFSETS:  Fixed problem with
VFO display when using COARSE tuning steps in combination
with a non-zero transverter frequency offset (CONFIG:XVn OFS).

* IMPROVED FM RECEIVE: FM demodulation algorithm
refined to reduce signal distortion.

* FM SQUELCH: No longer opens briefly during memory recall.

* "ANT3" REMINDER WHEN K144XV SELECTED: If you switch
to a band configured for use with the Elecraft K144XV internal 2-m
module, “ANT3” is flashed to remind you to use the separate
BNC antenna jack provided on the fan panel, rather than ANT1/2.


Other new features and improvements:

* NR (NOISE REDUCTION) ON/OFF: This is now saved
on a per-band/per-receiver basis (same as NB). NR ADJ
(noise reduction setting) is stored independently for each mode.

* TX MESSAGE MEMORY ERASE:  To completely erase a
transmit message buffer, tap REC, then M1-M4, then CLR.
Note that erasing a CW/DATA memory will not erase a DVR
Message assigned to the same M1-M4 switch, and vice-versa.

* ERR PTT & ERR KEY (rig keyed at power-up): These error
conditions no longer lock out the POWER switch.

* DELAYED MEMORY RECALL (M>V): In CONFIG:MEM 0-9,
tap '1' to select "M>V NOR" or "M>V DLY". NOR is the default,
resulting in “live” memory recall as you rotate VFO A. In the
"DLY"
case, the receiver is not updated until you tap M>V a second
time to exit memory recall. You may prefer “DLY” if you have
external gear that switches as the K3 changes bands.

* 40-M TX RANGE EXTENDED TO 7.650 MHz (12 W MAX): TX
near the first I.F. has always been disabled from 7.550 to 8.990
MHz to protect the 8.21 MHz trap on the KAT3 or KANT3 module.
At power settings of 12 W or lower, the upper limit is now 7.650
MHz, allowing use of some additional MARS channels.


Remote Control Command Changes:

* XF/XF$ COMMAND ADDED: Returns crystal filter number (1-5)
presently selected for main (XF) and sub receiver (XF$). GET only.
Not usable during BSET or REVerse.

* SQUELCH STATUS ADDED TO IC COMMAND: Byte e,
bits 4 (main RX) and 3 (sub RX). 1 = squelched. (Works for both
FM and non-FM squelch.)

* SUB RX NR STATUS ADDED TO IC COMMAND: Byte e, bit 2.


E
EINIT (EEPROM Initialization) Changes:

- PL deviation (FM) set to 0.36 kHz (was 0.00)
- Power output set to 5/50 W (was 0)
- CONFIG:SPLT SV set to YES
- RTTY mark tone set to 2125 Hz (was 1275)


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Re: [Elecraft] Fw: My predicament

[Philippe Trottet]

And Nigeria is one of the well known countries for hackers and crooks.
Bst 73's
Philippe A65BI

>>> "VE3GAM Allen McRorie"  17-01-2010 19:37 >>>
I am 100% sure that this did not come from the station indicated, in the 
message 
properties, the
originating IP address is from Lagos, Nigeria.

also, I never take any email seriously that is sent to "undisclosed 
recipients", as this 
one was. I am
pretty sure you will find Ted at home in Illinois, Wisconsin or whereever he 
lives 
totlally oblivious
to all of this.

Al
- Original Message - 
From: "Hector Padron" 
To: "Steve Ellington" 
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] My predicament


Guys maybe Ted is not the one who wrotte that scam,I have talked to him on 40M 
several 
times and he seemed to be a very decent guy,there are scammers all over the net 
and I will 
say this is one of them.Don't blame him yet until we know all the facts.
Its just a thought.

AD4C



"For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3"

--- On Sun, 1/17/10, Steve Ellington  wrote:


From: Steve Ellington 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] My predicament
To: "Andrew Moore" , ted1...@operamail.com, 
Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Date: Sunday, January 17, 2010, 2:20 PM


Interesting how the scam came from Ted Orant, WB9JOX, who is in fact a K1,
K2 owner and no doubt a list member. How's that work?

Steve
N4LQ
n...@carolina.rr.com 
- Original Message - 
From: "Andrew Moore" 
To: ; 
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] My predicament


> Common scam.
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 8:43 AM, ted orant  wrote:
>
>> I'm writing this with tears in my eyes,we came down here to
>> London for a short vacation and i was mugged at gun point last
>> night at the park of the hotel where we lodged all cash,credit card
>> and cell were stolen off me, thank God we have our life and passport
>> my rents are not in town they all travel to Fiji island i lost all
>> contact.
>>
>> I've been to the embassy and the Police here but they're not
>> helping issues at all,my flight leaves in next few hours from now
>> and am having problems settling the hotel bills.
>> the hotel manager won't let me leave until i settle the hotel bills
>> am freaked out...you can wire the money to me through western union
>> all you need is Name on my passport and location information below...
>>
>> Location :United Kingdom London
>> Name:ted orant
>> Amount Needed :1450pounds
>>
>> That is all you need to get the money sent to me and get back to me with
>> the western union transfer details the confirmation code MTCN number ...
>>
>> Hope to hear from you .
>> ted.
>>
>> Ted wb9jox
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Want to buy a K3

[Philippe Trottet]

Hi Bill,
Just do a test, it is so easy to modify with the Elecraft utility.
In my severe environment, I've noticed a slight difference at 2.1 when using 
the 2.8 or the 1.8, so I decided to use the 2.1 with the 1.8 it's more sharp 
but it is my own pereception and others can have different feeling on it.
73's
Philippe A65BI


>>> "Bill VanAlstyne W5WVO"  12-01-2010 20:03 >>>
You bring up the interesting question of configuration for the narrow 
filter -- i.e., where do you set it to "kick in"? I opted for 1.9 kHz, you 
opted for 2.1 kHz. I'm curious as to where others have configured the 1.8 
kHz SSB filter to kick in -- and why.

Bill W5WVO

------
From: "Philippe Trottet" 
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 10:05 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3]  Want to buy a K3

> Fully confirm this assessment !
> The 1.8Khz 8 pole in a congested environment is a must. I have it in 
> addition of the 2.8Khz.
> Considering the H polar of my 40m antenna receiving signals from the close 
> East, most are regular Ham's from ex-USSR area and also very active 
> pirates on that side, up to 59 +30 is common.
> Sometime ago two of those big guns were respectively on 7.085 and 7.090 
> with certainly old amplifiers spreading their signal several KHz away from 
> the normal spectrum with saturated audio, I've just clicked on the 1.8Khz 
> filter and as Bill says, FC to 1.05~1.10 and was able to listen clearly 
> and do the contact with JA8BOF on 7.088.
> Just a trick, to program with the Elecraft utility the1.8Khz filter, 
> starting from 2.1Khz.
> When listening with the 2.8 moving the width down will activate 
> automatically at 2.1Khz the 1.8 filter, it is helpful.
> 73's
> Philippe A65BI
> http://www.qrz.com/callsign/A65BI 
> K3#3616
> " By Ham's, For Ham's...What else ! "
>
> ( http://www.qrz.com/callsign/A65BI )
>
>>>> "Bill VanAlstyne W5WVO"  12-01-2010 6:53 >>>
> One thing the other posters have not mentioned (probably not being SSB
> types) is a narrow filter for SSB. I have the 1.8 kHz 8-pole filter, and 
> it
> is amazing. You do have to reduce the hi-cut a bit to center the voice in
> the narrower passband (an FC of 1.05 is about ideal for most male voices).
> What you get is remarkable immunity from overload by extremely strong,
> close-in signals (providing of course that they aren't actually 
> splattering,
> which you really can't do anything about). For SSB contest work, this 
> filter
> is a must. If you don't work SSB much and/or aren't at all interested in 
> SSB
> contesting/DXing, then you can probably skip it. But for me it's been a
> terrific addition.
>
> Bill W5WVO
>
> --
> From: "John W2XS" 
> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 2:28 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3]  Want to buy a K3
>
>>
>> You will get many opinions on this.  Here's mine.  I am primarily a CW
>> operator but I like to listen to AM BCB and Shortwave stations.  My
>> antenna
>> is a multi-band Cobra Ultralite fed with ladder line and a Balun Designs
>> 4:1
>> Tuner Balun.
>>
>> 1. KAT3 Tuner.  If you have matched, coax-fed antennas, then you may not
>> need this.  But it is a great addition to those of us with multi-band
>> antennas.  It remembers the settings on small segments of each band which
>> is
>> incredibly convenient for QSYing, especially on 160m.
>>
>> 2. KBPF3 General Coverage Filter.  If you stick only to the ham bands,
>> then
>> you may not need this.  But it was on my "must-have" list (as was the
>> KAT3).
>> I have all 100 memories filled with short-wave and AM BCB stations all
>> over
>> the frequency spectrum. I've been listening to Radio China and Radio 
>> Cairo
>> a
>> lot lately.
>>
>> 3. KPA3 100W Amplifier.  Many people start out with the 10W option.  I
>> have
>> had a lot of success with the K2 at 10W.  But I wanted the K3 to be my
>> "QRO"
>> rig as it replaced a Kenwood TS-930S (which is a fine but aging rig).
>>
>> 4. KRX3 Sub receiver.  I added this after a year and find it is 
>> incredible
>> for working split-frequency DX stations.  I cannot see ever going back to
>> the "push the TF Set" button days to try and figure out where the heck 
>> the
>> DX station is listening. If you are not a DXer, or don't care about
>> diversity reception, etc, then you may not need this.
>>
>> 5. Filters. This was (and is) a hot topic.  But I s

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Want to buy a K3

[Philippe Trottet]

Fully confirm this assessment ! 
The 1.8Khz 8 pole in a congested environment is a must. I have it in addition 
of the 2.8Khz.
Considering the H polar of my 40m antenna receiving signals from the close 
East, most are regular Ham's from ex-USSR area and also very active pirates on 
that side, up to 59 +30 is common. 
Sometime ago two of those big guns were respectively on 7.085 and 7.090 with 
certainly old amplifiers spreading their signal several KHz away from the 
normal spectrum with saturated audio, I've just clicked on the 1.8Khz filter 
and as Bill says, FC to 1.05~1.10 and was able to listen clearly and do the 
contact with JA8BOF on 7.088. 
Just a trick, to program with the Elecraft utility the1.8Khz filter, starting 
from 2.1Khz.
When listening with the 2.8 moving the width down will activate automatically 
at 2.1Khz the 1.8 filter, it is helpful.
73's
Philippe A65BI
http://www.qrz.com/callsign/A65BI
K3#3616
" By Ham's, For Ham's...What else ! "

 ( http://www.qrz.com/callsign/A65BI ) 

>>> "Bill VanAlstyne W5WVO"  12-01-2010 6:53 >>>
One thing the other posters have not mentioned (probably not being SSB 
types) is a narrow filter for SSB. I have the 1.8 kHz 8-pole filter, and it 
is amazing. You do have to reduce the hi-cut a bit to center the voice in 
the narrower passband (an FC of 1.05 is about ideal for most male voices). 
What you get is remarkable immunity from overload by extremely strong, 
close-in signals (providing of course that they aren't actually splattering, 
which you really can't do anything about). For SSB contest work, this filter 
is a must. If you don't work SSB much and/or aren't at all interested in SSB 
contesting/DXing, then you can probably skip it. But for me it's been a 
terrific addition.

Bill W5WVO

--
From: "John W2XS" 
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 2:28 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3]  Want to buy a K3

>
> You will get many opinions on this.  Here's mine.  I am primarily a CW
> operator but I like to listen to AM BCB and Shortwave stations.  My 
> antenna
> is a multi-band Cobra Ultralite fed with ladder line and a Balun Designs 
> 4:1
> Tuner Balun.
>
> 1. KAT3 Tuner.  If you have matched, coax-fed antennas, then you may not
> need this.  But it is a great addition to those of us with multi-band
> antennas.  It remembers the settings on small segments of each band which 
> is
> incredibly convenient for QSYing, especially on 160m.
>
> 2. KBPF3 General Coverage Filter.  If you stick only to the ham bands, 
> then
> you may not need this.  But it was on my "must-have" list (as was the 
> KAT3).
> I have all 100 memories filled with short-wave and AM BCB stations all 
> over
> the frequency spectrum. I've been listening to Radio China and Radio Cairo 
> a
> lot lately.
>
> 3. KPA3 100W Amplifier.  Many people start out with the 10W option.  I 
> have
> had a lot of success with the K2 at 10W.  But I wanted the K3 to be my 
> "QRO"
> rig as it replaced a Kenwood TS-930S (which is a fine but aging rig).
>
> 4. KRX3 Sub receiver.  I added this after a year and find it is incredible
> for working split-frequency DX stations.  I cannot see ever going back to
> the "push the TF Set" button days to try and figure out where the heck the
> DX station is listening. If you are not a DXer, or don't care about
> diversity reception, etc, then you may not need this.
>
> 5. Filters. This was (and is) a hot topic.  But I stand by my initial
> decision, which was:
>
> A. 200 and 500 Hz 5-pole filters.  There was an early posting that said 
> that
> only the first 30 dB of slope is critical, and that a 5-pole filter would 
> be
> more than enough. I went with that, and am happy.  There probably is some
> (small and subtle?) difference between the 5-pole and 8-pole performance,
> but the main purpose of a roofing filter is to prevent the DSP (the main
> selectivity in the rig) from overloading. Signals are generally weak right
> now, but will start to get stronger as conditions improve.  It is amazing,
> though, to crank that knob down to 500 and then to 200 and know that there
> is no chance for any out-of-bandpass signal to get through.
>
> B. 2.7 kHz SSB filter.  This comes standard.  This is the only filter that 
> I
> have in the sub receiver right now. I based that decision on wanting to 
> hear
> a wide bandpass most of the time to hear the station that the DX is 
> working.
>
> C. AM filter.  This is a little bit disappointing to me as I thought that 
> I
> would use this a lot.  But I almost never use it. Unless you are 
> interested
> in AM transmission or ESSB transmission, you might skip this one.
>
> D. FM filter. This is the one that I use for all my AM listening. I wish
> they offered a less-expensive filter for receiving only.
>
> You can always buy the minimum configuration now and add later. A real big
> advantage of the K3 over most other rigs today is the roofing filter
> concept, and signals will be getting 

Re: [Elecraft] K3 how often do you use it?

[Philippe Trottet]

Hi Gang,
I fully agree with Hector's comments, we have to know what we want ? 
It has been explained many times in the reflector what was the Elecraft
politics, easy to carry rig for dxpeditions or field days with great
performance etc.etc...
By Hams, for Hams, that's the Ham spirit who has been a little bit
forgetted since we are using those "limousine" rigs where most functions
are automated and not let the user to go beyond the limit if they want
to.
The design looks not like those pretty rigs, so what ! 
After testing on lab most of the commercial and Hams rigs on the market
for years my only regret was not to order a K3 earlier, thanks to John
ON4UN, who convinced me !
As a exclusive wire antenna user, what a great help for chasing the
weak signal especially in a industrial environment as mine.
In cw it is a great performer and in ssb it's not bad too with the 2.8
+ 1,8 khz 8 poles filters where you can discriminated easily a weaker
signal in a overloaded environment. 
The Electraft team are taking care of the comments of the users to
improve day after day their products, what can be expected more for us ?

I'm just a little bit anxious about the continuity of Elecraft company
when Wayne and Eric will be retired but no doubt they will find somebody
in the pure Ham spirit as they are.
73's
Philippe A65BI  (F5LTB)

http://www.qrz.com/callsign/A65BI
 
 
 

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>>> Hector Padron  10-01-2010 7:42 >>>
Hi Randy,nothing more away from the actual reality what your friend
said.
He is obviously not updated with what is going on in the contesting and
dxing world of hamradio lately,IF he were then he sure will know that
precisely the "Big guns" as he call the major dxers on the world are all
selling their big FT-1000D,FT-1000MK5,FT-2000D,.etc to buy K3's.Wy?
because they all have realized that the K3 is a better performance radio
than those mentioned before.I even know two guys here in my county who
after owning for a year the IC-7700 and IC-7800 top guns from Icoms are
selling them to buy K3's.
I am not a heavy contester neither dxer but I use my K3 day by day,I
will say 365 days a year and its not an ugly radio,certainly is not
beautiful as a FT-2000 but guess what, I owned a FT-2000 and it lasted
here in my shack just 2 months because it did not passed the comparison
test againts my K3,neither the ProIII that I owned before,neither many
radios that has passed by here.
I will ask your friend If he could pull a weak station with a signal of
55 on 40M having at just 2Khz below another station with 20db
over,surely he will lose the weak one using those "big" radios,that
don't happen in a K3 where using a roofer of 1.8Khz and moving the shift
down 50Hz the QRM will totally disapear,that is something you can't do
with any of those big radios,that is why all contesters are switching to
this small size radio that is also very portable and light enough to
carry it to anywhere on this planet.
Ask your friend why last year at the Ducie island VP6DX all the radios
were K3's,they did not take any of the big radios for sure,not even
one,only back up radios they took were the K2's.
The K3 has probed to be the highest performance radio in the market and
If someone don't believe it,that is his problem.
have a good weekend.

AD4C


"For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3"

--- On Sun, 1/10/10, Don Wilhelm  wrote:


From: Don Wilhelm 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 how often do you use it?
To: "Randy Downs" 
Cc: elecr...@mailman
.qth.net 
Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 3:21 AM


Randy,

That is one man's opinion, and it is not shared by all.  The K3 
ergonomics went through a sizable focus group before final decisions on

such matters were made.  Yes, that group was heavily influenced by 
contesting types and DX types, and they seem to be the groups that will

purchase whatever will give them an edge on the competition.  Your 
opinions may differ, but the portability aspects for DXpeditions along

with the high performance receiver has gone a long way - it sold over 
3000 K3s in under 3 years.  There is something to be said about that 
fact despite what some would call "shortcomings" such as a small front

panel.  The K2 received similar criticism over its 10 years, but folks

are still buying them. 
It is difficult to please all with one design.  Each to his own - you 
will have to weigh the pros and cons of each when reaching your own 
decision.  There are transceivers out there with

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Thinking return to K3.

[Philippe Trottet]

Dear Ruben,
The mailing list and the support from Electraft are outstanding and a
bit surprised you haven't founded the right adjustments. Just think this
rig is not like the others.
If you want a limousine the usual rigs are perfect, if you want a F1
performer Elecraft rigs are the choice. 
Personally I'm improving it weeks after weeks, thanks to all
Elecrafters who shared their experience and I can tell you after testing
most of the Professional and Hams rigs on the market for decades,
Elecraft waked my Ham spirit, thanks to Wayne & Eric.
As a Ham radio what a pleasure to adjust itself all parameters in order
to take the best of that rig.
Hope you will join back the Elecrafters soon. May be one day on the air
!
Happy New year 2010 to you and your family.
Bst 73's
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616

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>>> Ruben Navarro Huedo  06-01-2010 3:16 >>>
Hello friends:
I am Ruben from Spain.
Around 10 months ago i owned a K3/100 with ATU and original 2.7
filter.
I tested it around 2 months and after that i sold it.
At that moment i didn't like its audio (very crispy for me) and 
selectivity with 2.7 filter wasn't better than my old 756pro2.
Now i am thinking buy again one K3, but this time with better filters 
and voice keyer.
I my options is also an IC-7600.
I think this question has been done lots of times in this list, but 
excuse me, i have to ask...
What do you think?
Is audio better in last units?
With better filters... A lot better selectivity?
Your coments are very helper for my choice.
Has anybody tested a k3 and 7600 at same time?

Thank's a lot friends and happy 2010.

-- 
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Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese

[Philippe Trottet]

Hum !   
Did Yaesu, Icom or Kenwood are sending their products straight on line and 
provide such attention to their customers ? 
One more reason to be confident with Elecraft, a proud US company !
Great part of the succes is quality of service and Elecraft is on the way to 
carve out a crupper to our usual providers.
They waked up my Ham spirit after too many decades using most of the 
"limousine" rigs available on the market.
It's time to move to "Nascar" rigs and challenge for the "piston cup ". 
Bst 73's & Happy New Year 
Philippe A65BI (F5LTB), ex-9Q1TB for the last exotic one.
K3#3616
By Hams, for Hams, what else !  

>>> "Dick Williams"  04-01-2010 23:08 >>>
Has anybody tried to buy a Yaesu, Icom or Kenwood direct from Japan without
going thru their dealers in the states?

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:49 AM
To: Tom Meier
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese

Tom,

If he buys direct from Elecraft, he will have Tech Support direct from 
Elecraft, so I would guess he does not know his facts.

He may not have access to tech support from the Japanese distributor, 
but that is a different statement.

73,
Don W3FPR

Tom Meier wrote:
> Was talking with a JA operator yesterday who said that Elecraft is getting
a
> very bad name in that country - not for their product, but because of a
> business decision to have everything go through an exclusive dealer for
both
> sales and service.  The problem (according to this operator) is that the
> exclusive dealer is jacking the price up by up to 50%.  Yes, it is true
that
> they can buy the product directly from Elecraft, but doing so puts you
> without access to any tech support.
>
> Don't know if this is the isolated case of a guy who doesn't have his
facts
> straight and likes to spread rumors.  We've got a few of them in this
> country also.  But thought I'd pass this along.
>
> 73 de Tom (K7ZZ)
>   
>
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[Elecraft] AM 6K filter

[Philippe Trottet]

Dears,
Just installed the 6K filter and used the K3 utility. 
Can hear the difference on AM mode but, when pressed on XFIL it indicates 
normally 6.00 but if using the width knob, it indicate maximum 5.00 at the edge.
I missed something in the configuration ?
Your advises are welcome
Bst 73's
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616
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Re: [Elecraft] NR Revisited (trying again in plain text mode)

[Philippe Trottet]

Dear Wayne,
Its great !
Many thanks for your efforts.
Bst 73's
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616

>>> Wayne Burdick  30-12-2009 21:54 >>>
We're going to make NR per-mode in the next firmware release, too.  
This should eliminate the need to hunt for the ideal setting each time  
you change modes.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Dec 29, 2009, at 5:17 PM, Chuck Guenther wrote:

> I've been pleasantly surprised at how well NR works even with
> very narrow CW bandwidths.  I routinely use a 250 Hz roofing filter
> followed by 250, 200, or 150 Hz DSP filters for Top Band.  The NR
> set around F1-2 or F1-3 quite often makes a difference for me.
>
> It wasn't always this way.
>
> Thanks to Elecraft for their continual upgrades via firmware!
>
> 73,
> Chuck  NI0C
> K2-10 s/n 5853  K3 s/n 1061
>
>
> Joe, KB8AP, wrote:
> " NR works best with wider bandwidths. "
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Re: [Elecraft] Filters for K3?

[Philippe Trottet]

Dear Martin,
I've ordered some days ago... and received yesterday the 6Khz for AM & ESSB and 
the 1.8K for SSB. So I installed them yesterday evening.
Considering my antenna, delta loop for 40m and the huge signals received for 
the ex-USSR side, 59+30 & up is common, the 1.8k in addition to the 2.8k is 
really helpful and I like the fact when moving the width knob it goes 
automatically from one filter to another. Just an example from yesterday as I 
made rx tests after installing the 1.8K, 2 x UA big guns were on 7.085 and 
7.090 respectively and polluted the spectrum with very bad tuned amps with lot 
of splatters. With the K3 and the 8 pole filters I was able to distinguish and 
follow a qso on 7.088 performed by 2  M0 Hams. The shift was reduced on 1.00 
and the bandwidth 1.6~1.7 with the 1.8K activated. Using the AFX for audio was 
also helpful.
Considering my cw traffic, the 400Hz is perfect for general purpose.
 
My actual config, all 8 poles filters
Main
FL1: 6K
FL2: 2.8K
FL3: 1.8K
FL4: 400Hz 
 
Sub:
FL2: 2.8
FL4: 400Hz
 
Bst 73's & Happy New Year.
 
Philippe
A65BI (F5LTB)
K3#3616


>>> Martin Schmiedel  28-12-2009 4:00 >>>
Elecrafters,
i am about to order filters for my K3 and would like to hear from the
group what filters i should go for.
I am a ragchewer as well as a contester, ssb & cw. Rarely data modes.
I do weak signal work on 160/80 cw.
I have
2.8khz ssb in main & sub
400hz cw in main & sub
Should i order the 200hz 5-pole filter for their narrower bandwith or
the 250hz 8-pole with steeper skirts? Add 2.1khz or 1.8khz for ssb?
What is your recommendation?
Should i add filters for both rx's (-> diversity) ?
If i go for the 5-pole filters,should they be matched by elecraft or is
there a method to tweak it in the K3 ?

Thanks

Martin

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Announcement

[Philippe Trottet]

One more time propagation is not on my side.
Short path 20m to K4,  best spot expected 13:30 ~ 14:30Z,  SNR only 14dB / 100w 
  
73's
Philippe A65BI (F5LTB)
K3#3616



>>>  26-12-2009 20:13 >>>
The weekly SSB net will take place on Sunday, December 27, 2009 at 1800Z on 
14.314 MHz.  I will be away from the shack, but Mark, K4SO, in Virginia will be 
the net control station.  Hope everyone is 
having a nice holiday season.

73,

Phil, NS7P
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

[Philippe Trottet]

Dear Eric and Wayne,
Considering all improvements done in 2009 it would be useful to update the K3 
user guide in order to have quick acces to all new parameters easily.
 
I take the oportunity to wish a merry Xmas and a very happy New Year 2010 to 
both of you and your really supportive team, all "Elecrafters", especially in 
good health, and that all your wishes come true.
Best 73's
Philippe  
A65BI (F5LTB)...ex 9Q1TB & many exotic ones
 
K3#3616
* Elecraft, by Hams, for HamsWhat else !*

-Original Message-
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:02 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector; elecr...@yahoogroups.com;
elecraft...@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

Hi all,

As you probably know, we keep a list of firmware features and  
improvements to be added as time permits. Many of the most-requested  
changes were made over the past several months, keeping pace with the  
demands of the fall/winter contest season. (A few that come to mind:  
switch sequence automation via macros, improved DVR interaction with  
PTT, main/sub audio mixing, improved NR, lockable transmit controls,  
and many enhanced remote-control commands.)

As we head into 2010, we'd like to refresh the master firmware list  
based on your input. Items already on the list have priority, of  
course, but this is a great opportunity to let us know what else is  
missing or could be improved. Our goal is to make the K3 as easy to  
use as possible, while providing the advanced features you need for  
specific operating situations.

We're also planning a renewed effort to assist application software  
developers. If your ideas for improvements involve changes to both K3  
firmware and a favorite application, we'll pass it along to the  
developers and work with them closely.

We're making great progress on the P3 Panadapter and other new  
products. There will be some surprises in 2010 :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] Noisy K3 receiver

[Philippe Trottet]

Dear Bryan,
As you say, you're not playing with the settings of the K3, you really
must try !
K3 is a "Piston Cup" winner car compared to a standard limousine. 
You have the full choice to adapt all parameters to your own perception
and frankly speaking as I have been owner or tester for most of the
modern Ham and professional rigs, Elecraft waked up my Ham spirit after
years of Ham radio routine with general purpose trcvr's. This is Ham
product, by Hams and for Hams...what else !
They improved the rx side to the limit we can obtain today and I'm
quite sure they will go further, following the improvement of
technology.
Hpe to c u sn as propag with ZL is increasing yet.
Note: I'm refusing to play with rotating antennas, too easy, no fun,
only wires are used on my side for years, same thing with cw, no
interest at all to play with a computer where you've just to press
Functions keys. 
Vibroplex for normal use and hand key for contest that's real Ham sport
!
Best 73's
Philippe A65BI 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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>>> "Bryan, ZL1NI"  18-12-2009 23:28 >>>
I would be interested to know how you arrive at that conclusion.

My perception is a LOT of people have posted genuine concerns about
noisy K3 receiver.

I will add my voice to those that find the K3 noisy receiver very
disturbing.
I am a casual user I rarely diddle with settings beyond the factory
defaults. This is true for the several other late model rigs of
different makes I own and operate.
I find the K3 very noisy and fatiguing in comparison to any of the
other rigs I have when tuning around a relatively quite band. I Rarely
use the preamp mostly have the attenuator in.

Bryan, Zl1NI

> -Original Message-
> 
> Stan,
> 
> Those who are complaining are the exceptions to the rule.
> 
> There are thousands of K3 users that are not complaining. There are
> a few,
> very vocal complainers here.
> 
> 73

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Latest Beta update

[Philippe Trottet]

Hi Terry,
It works with mine.
When AGC OFF if you have a huge sig, i.e 59+ it block and you can't hear it any 
more, only see the bargraph. You need to use the RF knob and adjust in order to 
hear it agn.
Bst 73's
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616

>>> Terry  10-12-2009 18:40 >>>
Sorry I have `missed the boat` on this thread.
I use my K3 most of the time with AGC Off as I find this offers best 
weak signal performance. The AF protection, if I understand its function 
  correctly, does not seem to be operating on my receiver with AGC off 
despite the software update ... ?

Terry G4AMT

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Broken AF knob and bad service to get anreplacement.

[Philippe Trottet]

Dears,
Even for me,  my K3 has been ordered on 27, Oct. 09 and be on my hands in Dubai 
on 10, Nov 2009.

Very sorry to learn such a problem.
May be elecraft will  provide an full knobs set in the order list for 
replacment in the future... who can be helpful in case of breaking one of them 
during transport for field day or dxpedition ?

Bst 73's
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616

>>> "David Ferrington, M0XDF"  03-12-2009 14:42 >>>
Knobs here are ok, as with Julian, I too built my K3 and was careful  
about the fitting.
0.050 Allen key came with knobs in kit, so Elecraft should be able to  
supply one to you.

There are over 3000 K3s out there now and relatively very few have  
reported a problem with the knobs. I believe Elecraft reported an  
issue with the knobs on this reflector some weeks ago and said this  
had been addressed. Perhaps you unfortunately had knobs from a bad  
batch - twice!

Delivery from Elecraft to UK for small parts has typically been 2 - 3   
weeks here. Very surprised it's taken longer for you.

Sorry your experience has not been of the highest quality, I  
personally have found their service to be excellent, a number of my  
club friends have also found this, which is one of the reasons I  
purchased my K3.

Mode components in the UK (http://www.modecomponents.co.uk/Kits.htm)  
are now selling small Elecraft kits into Europe. Perhaps they could  
carry a few spares and therefore delivery might be faster.

73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
-- 
There are three truths: my truth, your truth, and the truth.
-Chinese proverb

On 3 Dec 2009, at 09:55, Tord wrote:
> Broken AF Knobs.And bad service to get a replacement.
> Still same shit? very very bad "quality"? its happend again, broken  
> in pieces.
> Purchased a new factory built K3  03/18/2009.A week after I get it  
> AF button  went to pieces.
> Ordered new and had to wait eight weeks for a new one. Now it is  
> broken again,
> in three pieces and how long should I wait to get a replacement this  
> time?
> three months?
> Also unable to find Allen wrench 0.050" here!
> This is really bad. really bad!
> Sorry to say.My experience of Elecraft service is really bad.  
> But its true.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Yaesu

[Philippe Trottet]

Hi
I do not think Elecraft as a bad image in France. I saw on the net some
complains because i'm quite sure they made some mistakes when doing
their kits but most of them did not, and French Electrafters Hams are
growing day after day.
We know for who the Elecraft product are made, it is like an F1 compare
to a conventional car, the F1 is always under development to take the
best to it, conventional car you bought it and you're using it until you
will sold it for second hand.  Elecraft woke up the Ham spirit after
years of passiveness, major Hams provider do not, only play with their
last...and expensive toys.
Bst 73's
Philippe A65BI (F5LTB)
 
 


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>>> juergen piezo  23-11-2009 12:18 >>>
Hi Gary

I cant answer all the questions the brochure has limited information.
Its interesting reading, go  download it.

The K3 in Europe has PR image problem, thats why radios like the
terrible FT2000  is outselling it probably 100:1, even with its crap
receiver.  I would think that this new radio is going to put Yaesu back
onto the ham radio map. 

Yup Yaesus line up of transceivers is terrible  at the moment and I
would not touch one with a 1000 foot long pole. However Yaesu has played
it hand well  with this new radio. I would suggest that this radio in
sales numbers is  going to be bigger than  the FT1000D and FT100MP
series of radios. It will hurt K3 and Ten Tec Orion sales, especially
the Orion which is considered to be a dead duck in the water with no
further improvements.


I wonder if Elecraft will take up the challenge? New front panel, 200
watts and inbuilt P3?  Its going to be a very interesting new Year.
There is even rumor around in Japan that Kenwood is coming up with a
similar concept with a new Kenwood super radio with a 9mhz IF and DSP.
Some say its combination of the TS950SDX and the TS870S in a new radio.

John 



--- On Sun, 11/22/09, rfenab...@gmail.com  wrote:

> From: rfenab...@gmail.com 
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and Yaesu
> To: "Elecraft" 
> Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 11:58 PM
> Ah, it seems again they have
> rushed into production another radio. I wonder how many
> design faults the first production run will have.
> 
> They are going with a 200W PA, smart move, but I wonder
> about the filtering and more importantly the FW.
> 
> Wonder if it will have a USB port?
> 
> Maybe even have a brick inside, what about a 2nd
> independent receiver like the 9000 series?
> 
> Lots of questions, BUT, it still has that Yaesu badge and
> that could work against it.
> 
> Interesting !
> 
> On board P3 equal?...H
> 
> I got my doubts, but it shows that Elecraft have bitten
> their bottom line and their owners (Motorola) won't like
> that.
> 
> Gary
> VK4WT
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Yaesu copies K3's design

[Philippe Trottet]

Hi,
It makes me remember when Honda came to Motorbike competition in the sixties 
with a copy of British engine design, but with better steels... and win the 
Championship.
Certainly Yaesu engineers bought K3's and worked on it but I do not think they 
can compete with the Elecraft prices.
Considering the size of the Yaesu company, they have huge sunk costs and 
payroll...unless they will open factories in China, taking the risk to destroy 
their image.
73's
Philippe A65BI  (F5LTB)
K3#3616
 
 

>>> juergen piezo  23-11-2009 11:22 >>>
Hi 

It looks like Yaesus new  FT5000 has copied the  K3's architecture

The K3 will be getting a serious  run for its money in the next few months. 
Yaesu looks like it has  done some serious competition analysis.

Features...

9 mhz IF
Not up conversion
Narrow roofing filters
99 db 3rd dynamic range +25dbm 3rd order intercept point @ 1khz
200 watts, 75 Class A
300 hz roofing filter.
MP and FT5KD version 
Bandscope and many other features

It looks like Yaesu have taken the K3's performance ideals and put it 
into a bigger box. The brochure is on the yahoo groups web page for those 
interested.

This radio is going to be very popular because it seems that a lot of the 
criticism of the K3's  apparent failings  seem to have been corrected in the 
new Yaesu FT5K design

All very interesting
...

John



  
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Re: [Elecraft] My Proposed K3 Configuration so far...

[Philippe Trottet]

Lionel,
Don't worry the cable works perfect, I've received my K3 two weeks ago
with the KUSB option.
Only to go to the Electraft website and download the usb utility
depending your driver that's all.
73's
Philippe
A65BI / F5LTB

K3#3616

>>> "Lionel Lhermitte"  20-11-2009 17:12 >>>
Hi all,
Few minutes ago, I just ordered a full K3 kit with "KUSB"
option.so
not very happy to hear that !
Regards,
Lionel, F6FCD, France

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] De la part de robby
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Envoyé : vendredi 20 novembre 2009 13:39
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Objet : [Elecraft] My Proposed K3 Configuration so far...


Phil

 

The KUSB is just a USB to RS-232.  They nailed me for $40 for one
because I
thought it was a special one for the K3. It didn't work. I later found
one
for under $10 that works fine. Don't buy it.

 

Elecraft have some wonderful products and accessories.  The KUSB just
isn't
one of them.

 

-Robby

VY2SS

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 ERR BP2

[Philippe Trottet]

Same symptom for me  w/ ERR BP4 when power on. It appears after downloading the 
3.59 update yesterday ??
73's
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616

>>> Iain MacDonnell - N6ML  20-11-2009 4:20 >>>
Hi Fred,

Check CONFIG:KBPF3 - it should be "not inSt" if you don't have the
KBPF3. I changed mine to "rF nor", and get the same error on
power-on...

~Iain / N6ML


On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Fred Jensen  wrote:
> My K3 suddenly began showing ERR BP2 in the VFO B window.  Everything
> works fine just like it always has and the error code goes away as soon
> as I do anything with the radio.  The manual says it has something to do
> with BPF 2, which I don't think I have.
>
> K3/100
> NB
> ATU
> DVR [just put that in, works great]
> FW 3.57  it happened with prior version too [3.30]
>
> I have the two stock roofing filters.  It's never done this before.  I'm
> not even sure I have a problem, I just don't like to see things on the
> display that begin with "ERR"
>
> 73,
>
> Fred K6DGW
> Auburn CA
> USA
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 S Meter

[Philippe Trottet]

Dear Bill,
Thanks a lot for the clear explanation and fully right to follow the
manufacturers direction but I was ? about it considering my "jurassic"
habits. 
I will use the indicated config as you mentioned as I'm still in the K3
pre-school !
New rigs, new technologiesHam radio is great to stay younger !
Thanks to Elecraft !
Bst 73's
Philippe 
A65BI / F5LTB (and ex 9Q1TB & many others...)

Philippe TROTTET 
Head of Field Telecom Unit - DUBAI
 
United Nations High Commissioner for  Refugees
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>>> Bill W4ZV  18-11-2009 14:32 >>>

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:09 AM, Philippe Trottet [via Elecraft] <
ml-node+4023431-500668...@n2.nabble.com
> wrote:

> Dears
> I've seen on the manual S9 /50 microvolts is adjusted with Preamp ON
.
> As a new Elecrafter I need some explanations, because with my
previous
> rigs, I use to calibrate S9 without the preamp.
> Thanks
> Philippe A65BI
> K3 #3616
>

Bon jour Phillipe,

The simple answer is "Always follow the manufacturer's directions".  A
more
complex one is that the K3, being a DSP rig, compensates internally in
firmware for the fact that PREamp is ON during the calibration
procedure.

I also recommend using CONFIG: SMTR MD - ABS.  This will place the
K3's
S-meter in ABSolute mode, so that the S-meter always reads the signal
being
applied to the input terminals correctly, independently of whether PRE
or
ATT are selected internally.  This is also different than most rigs
but, if
you think about it, it is better since the S-meter always read the
true
signal level at the input terminal, before any gain or attenuation is
applied inside.

73,  Bill  W4ZV

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 S Meter

[Philippe Trottet]

Dears 
I've seen on the manual S9 /50 microvolts is adjusted with Preamp ON .
As a new Elecrafter I need some explanations, because with my previous rigs, I 
use to calibrate S9 without the preamp.
Thanks
Philippe A65BI
K3 #3616



>>> Bill W4ZV  17-11-2009 22:25 >>>



Geoffrey Downs-2 wrote:
> 
> A couple of years ago there was some correspondence on the reflector about 
> whether an S unit is 6db or 4 db and there appears to be historical 
> precedent for both but I have looked at the archive and can't find where
> it 
> rested as far as the K3 is concerned. It occurred to me while recently 
> re-calibrating my S meter with the XG2 that if, in accordance with the 
> manual, you set S9 to be 50 microvolts and adopt 6 db per S unit the
> reading 
> for 1 microvolt should be between S3 and S4 (S3 being 0.78 microvolts and
> S4 
> 1.56 microvolts by my calculations). For practical purposes S3 is probably 
> close enough rather than "about S2 or 3" as shown in the manual. Or is it 
> more complicated than that? My arithmetic is not up working out how many S 
> units one microvolt would be at 4db per S unit but I suspect it would be 
> further away from S2 or 3. Anyone care to comment?
> 

I believe 6 dB is the "correct" definition, but most S-meters (K3 and Flex
5k excluded) are very non-linear at low S-meter readings.  IMHO the
following is an accurate summary of what readings should be:

http://www.n6rk.com/S_unit_definitions.doc 

I would adjust the K3 for the XG2's 1 uV output to solidly display S3 (i.e.
no flicker of S2-3).  That would only be 2.16 dB off (20 log .78/1), which
is probably "close enough".

73,  Bill
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Re: [Elecraft] OFF topic-DX Summit

[Philippe Trottet]

Yes, few days ago and I was obliged to check the cluster via  HB9DRV website.
Today apparently no problem on my side
73's
Philippe
A65BI 

>>> "Phillip Buckholdt"  17-11-2009 15:58 >>>
Anyone having a problem with DX summit? 

 Phil
 K8MBY
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (11-15-09)

[Philippe Trottet]

Hi Kevin,
Yesterday W2  on 20m was 59+ on my area, 18:25GMT. 
No directional antenna on my side due to local constraints, only a 40m
DELTA loop sloping 45º, top feeded with an 4:1 balun from Bob KZ5R
(LLC-balun design)...located on the top of a 32 stairs building, less
1km from the sea.
Bst 73's
Philippe


>>> Kevin Rock  16-11-2009 9:11 >>>
Hello Philippe,
   There is an archive of old Elecraft Reflector email.  I am sure
there is someone out there who can help you find the Iraq Elecraft Net
listing.  I am unsure of how long ago it was but at least three or four
years ago.  
   Congratulations on your new radio.  I am sure you will have fun with
it.  From UAE you should be able to find a lot of nice DX unavailable to
me at this current point in our sunspot cycle.  I have this really big
ocean to my west and south which cuts down on contacts quite a bit.  If
we could make it a little narrower I could hit further into Asia more
easily.  
   GL and 73,
  Kevin.  KD5ONS

-Original Message-
>From: Philippe Trottet 
>Sent: Nov 16, 2009 12:02 AM
>To: Kevin Rock , elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (11-15-09)
>
>Hi Kevin,
>I'm a brand new one Elecrafter and received my K3 last Tuesday.
>Only Elecraft company knows where K rigs have been solded to world
wide
>Hams.
>Am I the only Elecrafter in UAE ? I hope not  Hi ! 
>I will check tomorrow at the Emirates Amateur Radio Society  (A62ER)
>and will send a request on their website.
>
>You've just learned me was an Elecraft net originating from Iraq, is
it
>still active ? 
>The Elecraft net is also an useful tool to discover other Elecrafters
>if they are enrolled on it.
>Hope to contact you as well
>Bst 73's
>Philippe
>A65BI
>
>Note: 
>As per the new rules in UAE, starting 01/01/2009 , A61 is reserved
for
>Emiraties only, A65 for foreigners with a residency visa for up to
one
>year, A62 for radio clubs and A67 for VHF .
>
>
>
>>>> Kevin Rock  16-11-2009 8:24 >>>
>There was an Elecraft Net originating from Iraq at one point.  You
may
>wish to inquire about that or simply start your own.
>   73,
>  Kevin.  KD5ONS
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (11-15-09)

[Philippe Trottet]

Hi Kevin,
I'm a brand new one Elecrafter and received my K3 last Tuesday.
Only Elecraft company knows where K rigs have been solded to world wide
Hams.
Am I the only Elecrafter in UAE ? I hope not  Hi ! 
I will check tomorrow at the Emirates Amateur Radio Society  (A62ER)
and will send a request on their website.

You've just learned me was an Elecraft net originating from Iraq, is it
still active ? 
The Elecraft net is also an useful tool to discover other Elecrafters
if they are enrolled on it.
Hope to contact you as well
Bst 73's
Philippe
A65BI

Note: 
As per the new rules in UAE, starting 01/01/2009 , A61 is reserved for
Emiraties only, A65 for foreigners with a residency visa for up to one
year, A62 for radio clubs and A67 for VHF .



>>> Kevin Rock  16-11-2009 8:24 >>>
There was an Elecraft Net originating from Iraq at one point.  You may
wish to inquire about that or simply start your own.
   73,
  Kevin.  KD5ONS


-Original Message-
>From: Philippe Trottet 
>Sent: Nov 15, 2009 10:48 PM
>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net, Phil and Christina 
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (11-15-09)
>
>Dears,
>I would like to participate but considering the propagation between
USA
>and UAE the schedule is not adapted.
>
>Any possibilty for an Elecrafter net by IARU zones ? i.e.  the
>International Emergency Network directed and monitored on 20m once a
>month by the National French Amateur Federation serving the Civil
>Defense (FNRASEC) Call: F8RSF
>
>Bst 73's
>Philippe
>A65BI / F5LTB (Ex 9Q1TB)
>
>K3 #3616
>
>
>Philippe TROTTET 
>Head of Field Telecom Unit - DUBAI
> 
>United Nations High Commissioner for  Refugees
>International Humanitarian City
>Office Building Nº3 - Room 2, 1st Floor
>Doha Street
>PO BOX: 506013
>DUBAI - U.A.E.
> 
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>External:
>+971 4 3601753
>+41 22 739 7120
>Mobile: +971 504531756
>Website: www.unhcr.org 
>
>>>> "Phil and Christina"  16-11-2009 7:22 >>>
>We had a good net today with 32 participants.  Propagation seemed
>better
>than in some recent weeks.  The discussions were on the W2 and P3.
>Thanks to everyone who checked in.  Here is the list of participants.
>
>StationNameQTH Rig S/N
>
>W4LT   Lou FL  K3  3192
>KM5Q   Windy   NM  K3  764
>W0FM   Terry   MO  K3  474
>VE3QF  TonyON  K3  137
>K8EAG  Gil MI  K3  99
>W0NTA  DickCO  K3  1208
>AB2TC  Ken NY  K3  82
>K8DJC  Nelson  OH  K3  560
>N0QO   Ken CO  K3  1047
>W8YMO  Harry   OH  K3  166
>K8MBY  PhilOH  K3  609
>W5ETJ  GaryTX  K3  3227
>AD5SX  PaulNM  Jupiter
>W2RWA  DickNY  K3  2603
>KA5KKT DickKY  K3  1030
>N3YSA  George  MD  K3  2163
>K0AWU  BillMN  K3  3460
>N9YKE  Don WI  K3  2505
>W8OV   DaveTX  K3  3139
>KA1OZ  DickMA  K3  859
>W4PFM  PaulVA  K3  1673
>W4RKS  Jim AL  K3  3618
>W9DVM  PhilFL  K3  1605
>KG4OEB Charles GA  K3  3509
>AA5SEZ Travis  AR  K3  3327
>ZL1PWD Peter   NZ  K3  139
>K5LAD  Jim OK  K3
>AE6IC  FredCA  K3  2241
>KA5YPU Chris   MS  K3  2344
>N0EHQ/mEd  MO  FT857   (K3 at home)
>W6VY   Bob CA  K3  1590
>NS7P   PhilOR  K3  1826
>
>
>73,
>
>Phil, NS7P
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (11-15-09)

[Philippe Trottet]

Dears,
I would like to participate but considering the propagation between USA
and UAE the schedule is not adapted.

Any possibilty for an Elecrafter net by IARU zones ? i.e.  the
International Emergency Network directed and monitored on 20m once a
month by the National French Amateur Federation serving the Civil
Defense (FNRASEC) Call: F8RSF

Bst 73's
Philippe
A65BI / F5LTB (Ex 9Q1TB)

K3 #3616


Philippe TROTTET 
Head of Field Telecom Unit - DUBAI
 
United Nations High Commissioner for  Refugees
International Humanitarian City
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Doha Street
PO BOX: 506013
DUBAI - U.A.E.
 
HQ Ext: 7120
Vsat: xx 41 22 7120
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+971 4 3601753
+41 22 739 7120
Mobile: +971 504531756
Website: www.unhcr.org

>>> "Phil and Christina"  16-11-2009 7:22 >>>
We had a good net today with 32 participants.  Propagation seemed
better
than in some recent weeks.  The discussions were on the W2 and P3.
Thanks to everyone who checked in.  Here is the list of participants.

Station NameQTH Rig S/N

W4LTLou FL  K3  3192
KM5QWindy   NM  K3  764
W0FMTerry   MO  K3  474
VE3QF   TonyON  K3  137
K8EAG   Gil MI  K3  99
W0NTA   DickCO  K3  1208
AB2TC   Ken NY  K3  82
K8DJC   Nelson  OH  K3  560
N0QOKen CO  K3  1047
W8YMO   Harry   OH  K3  166
K8MBY   PhilOH  K3  609
W5ETJ   GaryTX  K3  3227
AD5SX   PaulNM  Jupiter
W2RWA   DickNY  K3  2603
KA5KKT  DickKY  K3  1030
N3YSA   George  MD  K3  2163
K0AWU   BillMN  K3  3460
N9YKE   Don WI  K3  2505
W8OVDaveTX  K3  3139
KA1OZ   DickMA  K3  859
W4PFM   PaulVA  K3  1673
W4RKS   Jim AL  K3  3618
W9DVM   PhilFL  K3  1605
KG4OEB  Charles GA  K3  3509
AA5SEZ  Travis  AR  K3  3327
ZL1PWD  Peter   NZ  K3  139
K5LAD   Jim OK  K3
AE6IC   FredCA  K3  2241
KA5YPU  Chris   MS  K3  2344
N0EHQ/m Ed  MO  FT857   (K3 at home)
W6VYBob CA  K3  1590
NS7PPhilOR  K3  1826


73,

Phil, NS7P

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