Re: [Elecraft] K3-S - CW Keying for Contests

[Jim Brown]

On Thu,1/28/2016 9:17 PM, Rick Tavan wrote:
:-)  Don't forget about the support, either, Jim. N1MM support is 
excellent, with developers responding quickly to most questions on the 
reflector and releasing new stuff almost every week. Writelog support 
is opaque and rare. Like you, I haven't looked back since first trying 
MM+.


Yes, and the support is equally good for DXKeeper and all the other 
software in that suite.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3-S - CW Keying for Contests

[Rick Tavan]

W4TV mentioned RUMlog et al to me in response to my posting. I installed
the general QSO logger and it does, indeed, look good. It doesn't support
all my hardware so I'm not likely to adopt it myself, but it does look like
a viable logging package for MacOS for most users.

73,

/Rick N6XI

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Bill Frantz  wrote:

> Allow me to disagree with Jim and Rick on this issue and recommend some
> native Mac programs. I have used RUMlog (a general purpose log program) and
> RUMped (a contest logger) for several years. They are mature programs and
> Thomas, DL2RUM provides excellent support. He has a new logging program,
> RUMlogNG which provides the functionality of both programs and is available
> at not cost through the Apple App store.
>
> I just installed RUMlogNG yesterday, and am still getting it set up. It
> will cooperate with fldigi to provide digital modes and will directly run a
> K3 or KX3. Since the K3S is operationally the same as the K3 as far as
> computer control is concerned, it should also "just work".
>
> NOTE: If anyone wants to load old QSOs into RUMlogNG, read the getting
> started documentation first.
>
> I am also a big fan of cocoaModem for digital modes. It supports decoding
> both the main and sub receivers, which is nice for working pileups.
>
> For information on ham radio programs for the Mac, see <
> http://www.machamradio.com/>.
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
>
> On 1/27/16 at 10:51 AM, a4...@sy-edm.com (a45wg) wrote:
>
> Fellow Hams,
>> I received my K3-S a few weeks ago - and I have been marvelling at it’s
>> features. I still am awaiting the arrival of a rotator - and them I will
>> hoist some Yagi’s up… but in the meantime - I am enjoying the awesome RX/TX
>> on this radio….
>>
>> I used to be quite an active contest station (alas no 4x4x4 here) - on
>> CW/SSB and Occasionally RTTY - so please may I ask for some steerage/advice
>> regarding the best way to connect a K3-S to a PC so I can automate some of
>> the repetition of contest work …. I fully understand and accept "DE TEST”
>> is not everyone’s cup of tea… But I enjoy it at times.
>>
>> It appears that WinKeyer is popular - will that suffice just for CW ? How
>> about Data Modes ??
>>
>> I would prefer not to have 3 or 4 options - but too keep things simple.
>> In the “old days” I used to use a SignaLink - which I found flexible and
>> worthwhile.
>>
>>
>> OS for PC:  Linux or Mac - NOT Windows
>>
>> Many thanks for taking the time to read this
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim - A45WG
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3-S - CW Keying for Contests

[Rick Tavan]

:-)  Don't forget about the support, either, Jim. N1MM support is
excellent, with developers responding quickly to most questions on the
reflector and releasing new stuff almost every week. Writelog support is
opaque and rare. Like you, I haven't looked back since first trying MM+.

73,

/Rick N6XI

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 10:31 PM, Jim Brown 
wrote:

>
> FWIW -- I started with WriteLog in 2003, used it for four years. Friend
> AE6RF was running FD for our group and declared that we were using N1MM, so
> I downloaded and learned it. Within four months, I had abandoned WriteLog,
> and I've never looked back. It wasn't the cost, it was the features!
>

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Re: [Elecraft] K3-S - CW Keying for Contests

[Bill Frantz]

Allow me to disagree with Jim and Rick on this issue and 
recommend some native Mac programs. I have used RUMlog (a 
general purpose log program) and RUMped (a contest logger) for 
several years. They are mature programs and Thomas, DL2RUM 
provides excellent support. He has a new logging program, 
RUMlogNG which provides the functionality of both programs and 
is available at not cost through the Apple App store.


I just installed RUMlogNG yesterday, and am still getting it set 
up. It will cooperate with fldigi to provide digital modes and 
will directly run a K3 or KX3. Since the K3S is operationally 
the same as the K3 as far as computer control is concerned, it 
should also "just work".


NOTE: If anyone wants to load old QSOs into RUMlogNG, read the 
getting started documentation first.


I am also a big fan of cocoaModem for digital modes. It supports 
decoding both the main and sub receivers, which is nice for 
working pileups.


For information on ham radio programs for the Mac, see 
.

73 Bill AE6JV


On 1/27/16 at 10:51 AM, a4...@sy-edm.com (a45wg) wrote:


Fellow Hams,
I received my K3-S a few weeks ago - and I have been marvelling 
at it’s features. I still am awaiting the arrival of a 
rotator - and them I will hoist some Yagi’s up… but in the 
meantime - I am enjoying the awesome RX/TX on this radio….


I used to be quite an active contest station (alas no 4x4x4 
here) - on CW/SSB and Occasionally RTTY - so please may I ask 
for some steerage/advice regarding the best way to connect a 
K3-S to a PC so I can automate some of the repetition of 
contest work …. I fully understand and accept "DE TEST” is 
not everyone’s cup of tea… But I enjoy it at times.


It appears that WinKeyer is popular - will that suffice just for CW ? How about 
Data Modes ??

I would prefer not to have 3 or 4 options - but too keep things 
simple. In the “old days” I used to use a SignaLink - which 
I found flexible and worthwhile.



OS for PC:  Linux or Mac - NOT Windows

Many thanks for taking the time to read this


Regards

Tim - A45WG

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Re: [Elecraft] K3-S - CW Keying for Contests

[Bill Frantz]

On 1/27/16 at 2:53 PM, li...@subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) wrote:


I am also a big fan of cocoaModem for digital modes. It supports
decoding both the main and sub receivers, which is nice for working
pileups.


Unfortunately, Chen has abandoned cocoaModem ... it is orphan software.



The source code is available. I have downloaded it, but I 
haven't tried to see if it builds. Jack, W6FB pointed out to me 
that the tuning "eye" for RTTY wasn't working. (The two for Dual 
RTTY which decodes both receivers do work.) Jack's report may 
provoke me to try to learn Mac programming.


73 Bill AE6JV

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Re: [Elecraft] K3-S - CW Keying for Contests

[Jack Brindle]

I would not call CocoaModem orphaned. It is open-source, and when things break, 
we (myself included) are trying to fix them.
It is not well supported, however.

And, it works pretty well under OS X 10.11.3 (El Capitan) on my Mac mini.

- Jack, W6FB


> On Jan 27, 2016, at 2:53 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:
> 
> 
> > I am also a big fan of cocoaModem for digital modes. It supports
> > decoding both the main and sub receivers, which is nice for working
> > pileups.
> 
> Unfortunately, Chen has abandoned cocoaModem ... it is orphan software.
> 
> 73,
> 
>  ... Joe, W4TV
> 
> 
> On 1/27/2016 5:17 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
>> Allow me to disagree with Jim and Rick on this issue and recommend some
>> native Mac programs. I have used RUMlog (a general purpose log program)
>> and RUMped (a contest logger) for several years. They are mature
>> programs and Thomas, DL2RUM provides excellent support. He has a new
>> logging program, RUMlogNG which provides the functionality of both
>> programs and is available at not cost through the Apple App store.
>> 
>> I just installed RUMlogNG yesterday, and am still getting it set up. It
>> will cooperate with fldigi to provide digital modes and will directly
>> run a K3 or KX3. Since the K3S is operationally the same as the K3 as
>> far as computer control is concerned, it should also "just work".
>> 
>> NOTE: If anyone wants to load old QSOs into RUMlogNG, read the getting
>> started documentation first.
>> 
>> I am also a big fan of cocoaModem for digital modes. It supports
>> decoding both the main and sub receivers, which is nice for working
>> pileups.
>> 
>> For information on ham radio programs for the Mac, see
>> .
>> 
>> 73 Bill AE6JV
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/27/16 at 10:51 AM, a4...@sy-edm.com (a45wg) wrote:
>> 
>>> Fellow Hams,
>>> I received my K3-S a few weeks ago - and I have been marvelling at
>>> it’s features. I still am awaiting the arrival of a rotator - and them
>>> I will hoist some Yagi’s up… but in the meantime - I am enjoying the
>>> awesome RX/TX on this radio….
>>> 
>>> I used to be quite an active contest station (alas no 4x4x4 here) - on
>>> CW/SSB and Occasionally RTTY - so please may I ask for some
>>> steerage/advice regarding the best way to connect a K3-S to a PC so I
>>> can automate some of the repetition of contest work …. I fully
>>> understand and accept "DE TEST” is not everyone’s cup of tea… But I
>>> enjoy it at times.
>>> 
>>> It appears that WinKeyer is popular - will that suffice just for CW ?
>>> How about Data Modes ??
>>> 
>>> I would prefer not to have 3 or 4 options - but too keep things
>>> simple. In the “old days” I used to use a SignaLink - which I found
>>> flexible and worthwhile.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> OS for PC:  Linux or Mac - NOT Windows
>>> 
>>> Many thanks for taking the time to read this
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Tim - A45WG
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Re: [Elecraft] K3-S - CW Keying for Contests

[john]

For CW and RTTY FSK keying I use a MicroHAM DigiKeyerII. This has the WinKey
chip and it is easy to install and operate however I do not know if it will
work with a non-Windows computer.

GL,
John KK9A

Wed Jan 27 13:51:20 EST 2016
Fellow Hams,
 I received my K3-S a few weeks ago - and I have been
marvelling at it's features. I still am awaiting the arrival of a rotator -
and them I will hoist some Yagi's up. but in the meantime - I am enjoying
the awesome RX/TX on this radio..

I used to be quite an active contest station (alas no 4x4x4 here) -
on CW/SSB and Occasionally RTTY - so please may I ask for some
steerage/advice regarding the best way to connect a K3-S to a PC so I can
automate some of the repetition of contest work .. I fully understand and
accept "DE TEST" is not everyone's cup of tea. But I enjoy it at times.

It appears that WinKeyer is popular - will that suffice just for CW
? How about Data Modes ??

I would prefer not to have 3 or 4 options - but too keep things
simple. In the "old days" I used to use a SignaLink - which I found flexible
and worthwhile.


OS for PC:  
Linux or Mac - NOT Windows

Many thanks for taking the time to read this


Regards

Tim - A45WG

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Re: [Elecraft] K3-S - CW Keying for Contests

[Kevin Stover]

For any windows users watching this thread who actually care what their 
morse sounds like in a contest I would suggest the WinKeyUSB3 from K1EL. 
Instead of relying on windows to correctly key the rig with a direct 
serial connection the contest software generates ASCII characters and 
sends the string to the Winkey which keys the rig perfectly.


Windows does what it does best, which is move data around, rather than 
trying to properly time morse code through a serial port.


The Winkey works with all the windows contest software and most regular 
loggers. It also works with CQRLog in Linux and works on the Mac as 
well. I have no idea if the Mac contest software supports it or not.








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Re: [Elecraft] K3-S - CW Keying for Contests

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

> I am also a big fan of cocoaModem for digital modes. It supports
> decoding both the main and sub receivers, which is nice for working
> pileups.

Unfortunately, Chen has abandoned cocoaModem ... it is orphan software.

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


On 1/27/2016 5:17 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:

Allow me to disagree with Jim and Rick on this issue and recommend some
native Mac programs. I have used RUMlog (a general purpose log program)
and RUMped (a contest logger) for several years. They are mature
programs and Thomas, DL2RUM provides excellent support. He has a new
logging program, RUMlogNG which provides the functionality of both
programs and is available at not cost through the Apple App store.

I just installed RUMlogNG yesterday, and am still getting it set up. It
will cooperate with fldigi to provide digital modes and will directly
run a K3 or KX3. Since the K3S is operationally the same as the K3 as
far as computer control is concerned, it should also "just work".

NOTE: If anyone wants to load old QSOs into RUMlogNG, read the getting
started documentation first.

I am also a big fan of cocoaModem for digital modes. It supports
decoding both the main and sub receivers, which is nice for working
pileups.

For information on ham radio programs for the Mac, see
.

73 Bill AE6JV


On 1/27/16 at 10:51 AM, a4...@sy-edm.com (a45wg) wrote:


Fellow Hams,
I received my K3-S a few weeks ago - and I have been marvelling at
it’s features. I still am awaiting the arrival of a rotator - and them
I will hoist some Yagi’s up… but in the meantime - I am enjoying the
awesome RX/TX on this radio….

I used to be quite an active contest station (alas no 4x4x4 here) - on
CW/SSB and Occasionally RTTY - so please may I ask for some
steerage/advice regarding the best way to connect a K3-S to a PC so I
can automate some of the repetition of contest work …. I fully
understand and accept "DE TEST” is not everyone’s cup of tea… But I
enjoy it at times.

It appears that WinKeyer is popular - will that suffice just for CW ?
How about Data Modes ??

I would prefer not to have 3 or 4 options - but too keep things
simple. In the “old days” I used to use a SignaLink - which I found
flexible and worthwhile.


OS for PC:  Linux or Mac - NOT Windows

Many thanks for taking the time to read this


Regards

Tim - A45WG

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Re: [Elecraft] K3-S - CW Keying for Contests

[Rick Prather]

I second the vote for RUMLogNG for both general logging and many contests.
It's a good way to get back in without spending the time required to learn
the Windows contest programs.

BTW, RUMLogNG supports the WINkeyer and I usually use it but I have never
had problem with my Mac using the onboard K3 Keyer ( an option with the RUM
family ).

BTW, the K3 and P3 control screens built in to RUMLogNG are great and very
useful and I find myself really missing the P3 control screen if I am
running something else.

Unsupported or not I find CocoaModem to be very useful especially if you
have the Sub receiver.  It lets you monitor both receivers on one screen.

Anyway, I suggest you start out with these Mac programs and if you later
decide you are missing something then you can go through the hoops of
setting up a VM and running Windows.

Have fun,

RIck
K6LE

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 5:46 PM,  wrote:

> For CW and RTTY FSK keying I use a MicroHAM DigiKeyerII. This has the
> WinKey
> chip and it is easy to install and operate however I do not know if it will
> work with a non-Windows computer.
>
> GL,
> John KK9A
>
> Wed Jan 27 13:51:20 EST 2016
> Fellow Hams,
>  I received my K3-S a few weeks ago - and I have been
> marvelling at it's features. I still am awaiting the arrival of a rotator -
> and them I will hoist some Yagi's up. but in the meantime - I am enjoying
> the awesome RX/TX on this radio..
>
> I used to be quite an active contest station (alas no 4x4x4 here) -
> on CW/SSB and Occasionally RTTY - so please may I ask for some
> steerage/advice regarding the best way to connect a K3-S to a PC so I can
> automate some of the repetition of contest work .. I fully understand and
> accept "DE TEST" is not everyone's cup of tea. But I enjoy it at times.
>
> It appears that WinKeyer is popular - will that suffice just for CW
> ? How about Data Modes ??
>
> I would prefer not to have 3 or 4 options - but too keep things
> simple. In the "old days" I used to use a SignaLink - which I found
> flexible
> and worthwhile.
>
>
> OS for PC:
> Linux or Mac - NOT Windows
>
> Many thanks for taking the time to read this
>
>
> Regards
>
> Tim - A45WG
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3-S - CW Keying for Contests

[Jim Brown]

I would hesitate to call these "full featured and mature" as compared to 
DXKeeper, which automates applications for awards like DXCC, and 
tabulates totals for dozens of awards by band and mode. Nor as compared 
to N1MM Logger Plus, which supports hundreds of contests and has many 
features that simplify contesting and make the operator more 
competitive. N1MM Logger Plus supports hundreds of rigs; RUMPed supports 
only the handful of rigs the program author owns and is feature-poor 
compared to N1MM Logger Plus. DXKeeper supports IOTA, WAS, WAC, WAZ, 
WPX, CQ Field Award, US counties, VUCC (VHF/UHF grids), Fred Fish (6M US 
grids), and dozens of awards from ham societies in UK, France, Spain, 
Russia, Japan, and lots of other countries. It imports contest logs, and 
allows you to keep track of QSOs by contest!  It also logs TX power, so 
I can sort QSOs by power to check for status of what I've achieved QRP 
(150 countries worked so far).


NY4I just posted statistics for logging programs used by those 
submitting logs for CQWW CW and SSB last year. N1MM was the most popular 
by far -- 44% of logs used it. WinTest was next with 8%, TR4Win with 6%, 
CTESTWIN, N3FJP, and WriteLog , each with 4%, and QARTest with 3%. ALL 
of those are Windoze programs.


I made the recommendations for DXKeeper and N1MM because they are top 
programs in their class -- you won't find yourself having to learn 
something else when you get serious, or export years of logs to a new 
format. They are both FREE, well supported, and reasonably easy to 
learn. Indeed, my experience has been that it's much easier to learn a 
program when you don't have UN-learn another program that does the same 
thing.


FWIW -- I started with WriteLog in 2003, used it for four years. Friend 
AE6RF was running FD for our group and declared that we were using N1MM, 
so I downloaded and learned it. Within four months, I had abandoned 
WriteLog, and I've never looked back. It wasn't the cost, it was the 
features!


73, Jim K9YC

On Wed,1/27/2016 2:17 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
I have used RUMlog (a general purpose log program) and RUMped (a 
contest logger) for several years. They are mature programs and 
Thomas, DL2RUM provides excellent support. He has a new logging 
program, RUMlogNG which provides the functionality of both programs 
and is available at not cost through the Apple App store. 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3-S - CW Keying for Contests

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

On 1/27/2016 6:39 PM, Jack Brindle wrote:

I would not call CocoaModem orphaned. It is open-source, and when

> things break, we (myself included) are trying to fix them.

It is nice that someone is there to fix problems but that is a long
way from having the original developer involved to move things
forward!

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


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Re: [Elecraft] K3-S - CW Keying for Contests

[Jack Brindle]

Yes, but if you apply that category to all programs, there are very few, 
including commercial apps, that survive. I am 100% certain that there are major 
software applications that are now completely detached from the developers (any 
developers), that perfectly fit your description. Some of these would amaze 
you. Companies make decisions all the time to do this, wise or not. sigh…

At least with Chen’s programs we have the opportunity to pick up support and 
even add features, something you cannot do with non-open source software.

What’s really amazing about this is that I’m not usually a proponent of 
open-source. In some cases it is the far better approach.

- Jack, W6FB

 
> On Jan 27, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 1/27/2016 6:39 PM, Jack Brindle wrote:
>> I would not call CocoaModem orphaned. It is open-source, and when
> > things break, we (myself included) are trying to fix them.
> 
> It is nice that someone is there to fix problems but that is a long
> way from having the original developer involved to move things
> forward!
> 
> 73,
> 
>  ... Joe, W4TV
> 
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[Elecraft] K3-S - CW Keying for Contests

[a45wg]

Fellow Hams,
 I received my K3-S a few weeks ago - and I have been 
marvelling at it’s features. I still am awaiting the arrival of a rotator - and 
them I will hoist some Yagi’s up… but in the meantime - I am enjoying the 
awesome RX/TX on this radio….

I used to be quite an active contest station (alas no 4x4x4 here) - on 
CW/SSB and Occasionally RTTY - so please may I ask for some steerage/advice 
regarding the best way to connect a K3-S to a PC so I can automate some of the 
repetition of contest work …. I fully understand and accept "DE TEST” is not 
everyone’s cup of tea… But I enjoy it at times.

It appears that WinKeyer is popular - will that suffice just for CW ? 
How about Data Modes ??

I would prefer not to have 3 or 4 options - but too keep things simple. 
In the “old days” I used to use a SignaLink - which I found flexible and 
worthwhile.


OS for PC:  
Linux or Mac - NOT Windows

Many thanks for taking the time to read this


Regards

Tim - A45WG

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Re: [Elecraft] K3-S - CW Keying for Contests

[Rick Tavan]

You need to consider several separate aspects of radio automation. Assuming
you are operating with one radio, consider these:

   - Operating System: There are logging programs for Linux and MacOS but
   your choices are much more limited than with Windows. When I switched from
   Windows to MacOS, I tried Snookum Logger but found it primitive compared to
   Windows offerings. There are other possibilities that I know nothing about.
   At this point I run a virtual Windows machine on my Macbook Pro under
   VMware Fusion. It's complicated but it works.
   - Rig Control: Connect either an RS232 cable or USB cable from your
   computer to the K3s. Tell your logging program the COM port number (or
   identify the USB connection to MacOS) and characteristics (typically
   38400-N-8-1) and then the logger will track the radio's frequency and mode.
   You can also type in a frequency and most loggers will send the rig there.
   Not all of them, though.
   - CW Keying: Although you can key the K3s through the same serial port
   that you use for rig control, I advise against it because unrelated load on
   your computer can sometimes result in "stuttering" - poor keying. Instead,
   I like to use an external keyer and the WinKeyer USB is a very good choice.
   It connects to your computer via a USB cable, to your paddle and to the the
   K3s Key In connector. It forms dots and dashes outside the computer and
   works very well for both computer and manual sending. Some people prefer to
   connect the paddle to the K3 PADDLE input to provide separate speed control
   for manual and computer sending. (I use two paddles, one through the
   external keyer and one direct to the K3.)
   - Voice Messages: If you operate phone, you may want to automate contest
   messages, especially CQ, Exchange and Thanks. If you have the K3s internal
   voice keyer, you can use that, provided your logging program supports it.
   If not, you can let your logger generate voice messages and transfer them
   to the K3 via a sound card. It is best to use an external sound card rather
   than the one inside the computer in order to avoid computer sound effects
   getting transmitted. The Griffen iMic card is simple and inexpensive. (The
   Asus Xonar family are more sophisticated and probably "better." I don't
   have mine working yet.) There are dozens of alternatives. You can plug into
   K3 Line In and leave your live microphone connected to front or rear MIC In
   connectors.
   - Data Modes: The quickest way to get here is to connect a pair of 3.5mm
   phone cables between an external sound card and the K3 Line In and Line Out
   connectors. Run AFSK or PSK with appropriate software. Many prefer FSK
   which requires a cable from a serial port (or carefully chosen
   USB-to-Serial adapter) to the FSK line on the K3 ACC connector. You can
   also use a Signalink or other multi-function interface box, but it's not
   required and won't be any simpler. It might save some cable swapping when
   changing between voice and data modes, depending on the box and how you set
   things up.

There are lots of "moving parts" and patience is a virtue. Consider the
project of getting it all working to be part of your pursuit of ham radio.
Take it one piece at a time and enjoy each individual success.

If you operate two radios (SO2R), it's more complicated. ;-)

GL & 73,

/Rick N6XI

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 10:51 AM, a45wg  wrote:

> Fellow Hams,
>  I received my K3-S a few weeks ago - and I have been
> marvelling at it’s features. I still am awaiting the arrival of a rotator -
> and them I will hoist some Yagi’s up… but in the meantime - I am enjoying
> the awesome RX/TX on this radio….
>
> I used to be quite an active contest station (alas no 4x4x4 here)
> - on CW/SSB and Occasionally RTTY - so please may I ask for some
> steerage/advice regarding the best way to connect a K3-S to a PC so I can
> automate some of the repetition of contest work …. I fully understand and
> accept "DE TEST” is not everyone’s cup of tea… But I enjoy it at times.
>
> It appears that WinKeyer is popular - will that suffice just for
> CW ? How about Data Modes ??
>
> I would prefer not to have 3 or 4 options - but too keep things
> simple. In the “old days” I used to use a SignaLink - which I found
> flexible and worthwhile.
>
>
> OS for PC:
> Linux or Mac - NOT Windows
>
> Many thanks for taking the time to read this
>
>
> Regards
>
> Tim - A45WG
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3-S - CW Keying for Contests

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

Regarding this point, to me the easiest way to run Data modes is to 
simply use the USB connection between the radio K3S and the computer USB 
port.  No box, no USB to Serial adapter or other cables required.  I use 
FLDIGI and it handles CAT control of the radio and data/audio.  Set the 
CONFIG menu RS232 to USB and not RS-232 which is the default as I 
recall.  No cable swapping when changing modes, SSB, CW or digital.


73
Bob, K4TAX



On 1/27/2016 1:50 PM, Rick Tavan wrote:

   - Data Modes: The quickest way to get here is to connect a pair of 3.5mm
phone cables between an external sound card and the K3 Line In and Line Out
connectors. Run AFSK or PSK with appropriate software. Many prefer FSK
which requires a cable from a serial port (or carefully chosen
USB-to-Serial adapter) to the FSK line on the K3 ACC connector. You can
also use a Signalink or other multi-function interface box, but it's not
required and won't be any simpler. It might save some cable swapping when
changing between voice and data modes, depending on the box and how you set
things up.



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Re: [Elecraft] K3-S - CW Keying for Contests

[Jim Brown]

On Wed,1/27/2016 10:51 AM, a45wg wrote:

  best way to connect a K3-S to a PC so I can automate some of the repetition 
of contest work


Welcome back to contesting. Like you, I started contesting as a 
teenager, drifted in and out of ham radio several times in 60 years, and 
have been quite active for the last 13 years. N6XI has given you great 
advice. I'll only add to it.


First, unless you want to spend your time with computer issues, stick 
with Windoze -- pickin's for software get slim in other OSs. For 
day-to-day logging, use DXKeeper, which does everything anyone might 
need. It's part of a FREEWARE suite of programs. Very mature, bug free, 
well supported. Supports LOTW and eQSL almost automatically once you're 
set up.


For contest logging, go with N1MM Logger Plus, also FREEWARE, and well 
supported. The only viable alternatives, WriteLog and WinTest cost 
money. N1MM is superior to WriteLog. Some swear by WinTest.


For digital interfaces, see http://k9yc.com/USB_Interfaces.pdf

For a tutorial on grounding and bonding in your home and shack, see 
http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf


73, Jim K9YC
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