[Elecraft] K3 Temperature Sensor Calibration
Consider re-calibrating the temperature sensors in your K3 before getting too alarmed about the readings. From the Owner's Manual: Front Panel Temperature Sensor Turn the K3 OFF. Allow about 15 minutes for the radio to cool to room temperature. Turn the K3 ON. Locate the CONFIG:FP TEMP menu entry. Adjust the parameter to match the reading of a room thermometer. Note: Deg. C = (deg. Fahrenheit - 32) * 0.555. PA Temperature Sensor Turn the K3 OFF. Allow about 15 minutes for the PA heat sink to cool to room temperature. Do not turn the K3 ON during this period. Turn the K3 ON. Locate the CONFIG:PA TEMP menu entry. Adjust the parameter to match the reading of a room thermometer. Note: Deg. C = (deg. Fahrenheit - 32) * 0.555. 73, Paul W8TM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 temperature
Tom N0SS said What bothers me, a bit, is that my cooling fans seem to be running a LOT more frequently, and at higher speeds, than they did several firmware versions ago. My FP temperature rose from 18 C to 35 C in a three-hour test yesterday. I don't believe the fans came on but not sure as I can't hear them. When ever I look at them they are not running. The PA temp rose from 17 C to 25 C over the same period. (I may have transmitted a short SSB period, can't remember). So I am wondering at what temperature the fans come on and where that temperature is measured. Mike Scott - AE6WA Tarzana, CA (DM04 / near LA) K3-100 #508/ KX1 #1311 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 temperature
The fans only come on in response to the PA temp sensor. In a future release they'll also come on if the FP temperature is excessive. But so far, I haven't seen any reports of excessive FP temperature -- they're all in the acceptable range. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jan 27, 2009, at 6:21 AM, Mike Scott wrote: My FP temperature rose from 18 C to 35 C in a three-hour test yesterday. --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 temperature
Hi, I'd like to suggest that Enhancements and App notes be assigned numbers, so they'll be easier to keep track of. 73, doug ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 temperature
That's interesting. I would think that the PA shielding and top venting would make the fans pretty ineffective for cooling the FP. Or is the idea that if the FP is too warm, the PA is probably too warm as well, regardless of the reported PA temp? 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Jan 27, 2009, at 8:39 AM, wayne burdick wrote: The fans only come on in response to the PA temp sensor. In a future release they'll also come on if the FP temperature is excessive. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 temperature
Speaking of temperature - A week or two ago I complained about the fans continuously speeding up and slowing down during a contest. Since then I have set the fans to run continuously at low speed (config kpa3=fn1). The fans are almost inaudible at this speed, and I didn't hear them cycling up and down during the 160 cw or bartg sprint contests. The rigs were running only 50 watts though, driving high gain amps. The NAQP RTTY contest is coming up on Feb 28. That's a 100w RTTY contest. The rigs will get a workout there. I'll keep an eye on pa temp and fan speed. I did verify that with kpa3=fn1, the fans do speed up if pa temp rises. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ - Original Message - From: wayne burdick n...@elecraft.com To: m...@paxsen.com Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 temperature The fans only come on in response to the PA temp sensor. In a future release they'll also come on if the FP temperature is excessive. But so far, I haven't seen any reports of excessive FP temperature -- they're all in the acceptable range. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jan 27, 2009, at 6:21 AM, Mike Scott wrote: My FP temperature rose from 18 C to 35 C in a three-hour test yesterday. --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 temperature
Since K3 #145 has had it's sub receiver the forward area of the right hand side panel seems to get a little warmer and I've assumed this is due to the sub rx or second dsp drawing extra through the 2 voltage regs bolted to that panel. Shows it's all working ok since the panel is the heatsink for those devices. I don't understand how you could suspect the sub rx of increasing the PA temperature if everything has been installed correctly. BTW: I took part in a local RTTY contest for the first time the other evening and was a little concerned about running full power despite reassurances here. Running about 95 watts for 90 contest minutes I kept an eye on the PA temperature and it never went above 46 deg; I put my hand over the back once or twice and the fans seemed to be running but only slowly. I'm now reassured. Stewart Rolfe, GW0ETF wayne burdick wrote: Since I fitted the second receiver, my K3 is running a whole lot warmer, even on receive with the sub receiver turned off. The aux DSP adds around 100 mA even when the sub receiver is turned off, as I recall, so some increase in temperature is normal. The KRX3 module itself adds nearly zero current when turned off, and I don't believe it could cause any increase in temperature since just due to its location above the RF board. When turned on, the KRX3 adds about 150-200 mA. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-temperature-tp2216250p2217060.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 temperature
Well... I must agree that, since the addition of the KRX3 in my K3, the internal temps HAVE risen on the order of about 10 deg. C overall... However, this is NOT anything I didn't expect... in fact, I seem to recall that Wayne even posted (somewhere) that KRX3 users would notice higher internal temps. What bothers me, a bit, is that my cooling fans seem to be running a LOT more frequently, and at higher speeds, than they did several firmware versions ago. I've mentioned this on the K3 Field Test reflector, but no one has risen to comment upon my observations. 73, Tom Hammond N0SS At 23:06 01/25/2009, Matt Zilmer wrote: Hi Barry, I installed the KRX3 in #24 here last week. My experience with temps is different from yours. Ambient temp: 22C FP temp: 23C PA temp 34C (this is right now - in the middle of NA winter) Chassis exterior doesn't have temps any different from before the KRX3 went in here. At least not so far. This was after the K3 had been sitting on for most of the afternoon. Now, it's possible that your ambient temp is different, given that you are set right in the middle of Summer there. However, I recorded FP and PA temps no higher than 36/48 here last summer. This was due to the fact that I was running a lot of high duty cycle PSK31 QSO's at the time. The ambient open-house temp was 35C, which is a little warm. And believe me, the fans were running! We were open-house because of a power outage, and with solar power the only inconvience was sweat. You might want to look at how your cables are dressed, esp. the one at the back from ANT receptacle to the KRX3. If your fans can't get started, this might explain the high-temp problem. If the cable is laying across the fan(s) Also - make sure the KRX3 shield box isn't contacting anything on the RF Board. Check your DC power supply's metering to see if it pulls appreciably more current with the KRX3 installed. It seems unlikely that the KRX3 is the problem. But I'm not in your shoes. 73, matt, W6NIA On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:42:30 +, you wrote: Since I fitted the second receiver, my K3 is running a whole lot warmer, even on receive with the sub receiver turned off. In particular the front half of the right hand side panel is almost hot and the front right hand corner of the top cover is also very warm. Before the second receiver installation the PA and FP temperatures ran about the same, in the high 20's if I remember. Just now the FP temperature is nudging 44 degrees C and the PA is 36 C. This is after the rig has been on for several hours, receive only, although it quickly heats up to these temperatures when it is switched on. I am guessing that the air flow and thus the cooling ability of the rig has been significantly impaired by the KRX3 and this is causing the very high temperatures. I wonder if this has any long term reliability implications ? I also wonder if others are experiencing similar temperature issues with KRX3's installed as I do not recall seeing any postings on the subject. Barry Simpson VK2BJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 temperature
Since I fitted the second receiver, my K3 is running a whole lot warmer, even on receive with the sub receiver turned off. In particular the front half of the right hand side panel is almost hot and the front right hand corner of the top cover is also very warm. Before the second receiver installation the PA and FP temperatures ran about the same, in the high 20's if I remember. Just now the FP temperature is nudging 44 degrees C and the PA is 36 C. This is after the rig has been on for several hours, receive only, although it quickly heats up to these temperatures when it is switched on. I am guessing that the air flow and thus the cooling ability of the rig has been significantly impaired by the KRX3 and this is causing the very high temperatures. I wonder if this has any long term reliability implications ? I also wonder if others are experiencing similar temperature issues with KRX3's installed as I do not recall seeing any postings on the subject. Barry Simpson VK2BJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 temperature
Mine (S/N 56) with a 2nd receiver has been turned on all day, and I see the PA @ 23C and the FP @ 29C. The room ambient is 63F 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP elecraftcov...@rfwave.net ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 temperature
Hi Barry, I have noticed the same. Here also, the FP temp settles at roughly 36C, receive only. This is much warmer than before I fitted the KRX3. Ambient temperature here is about 20C. I have not investigated this phenomenon any further yet. I do consider it to be a bit warmer than normal operating temperatures... 73, Frank PA4N At 05:42 26/01/2009, Barry Simpson wrote: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_0193_01C97F70.804F5FC0 Content-Language: en-au Since I fitted the second receiver, my K3 is running a whole lot warmer, even on receive with the sub receiver turned off. In particular the front half of the right hand side panel is almost hot and the front right hand corner of the top cover is also very warm. Before the second receiver installation the PA and FP temperatures ran about the same, in the high 20's if I remember. Just now the FP temperature is nudging 44 degrees C and the PA is 36 C. This is after the rig has been on for several hours, receive only, although it quickly heats up to these temperatures when it is switched on. I am guessing that the air flow and thus the cooling ability of the rig has been significantly impaired by the KRX3 and this is causing the very high temperatures. I wonder if this has any long term reliability implications ? I also wonder if others are experiencing similar temperature issues with KRX3's installed as I do not recall seeing any postings on the subject. Barry Simpson VK2BJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com --- drs. ing. F.R. Oppedijk Avista ICT Consultancy B.V. Albert Schweitzerlaan 7 1277 BV Huizen tel: 035 - 523 09 83 fax: 035 - 523 09 84 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 temperature
Since I fitted the second receiver, my K3 is running a whole lot warmer, even on receive with the sub receiver turned off. The aux DSP adds around 100 mA even when the sub receiver is turned off, as I recall, so some increase in temperature is normal. The KRX3 module itself adds nearly zero current when turned off, and I don't believe it could cause any increase in temperature since just due to its location above the RF board. When turned on, the KRX3 adds about 150-200 mA. All of the components are rated to handle much higher temperatures than you normally encounter (typically 70 C). However, I've never seen an FP temperature of higher than 41C, so if you're seeing 44C, you might check your FP temp calibration. Even 44C is very unlikely to be a problem. 73, Wayne N6KR --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Temperature
To put this into context 37C is very warm, it isn't. I used to do elevated temperature dynamic burn-in on fiber optic RS-232 modules at 50C in a precision temperature controlled oven. You can take a 50C unit out of the oven with your bare hands and it is so hot you drop it as fast as you can. :-) You can imagine what the junction temperature of the solid state devices was ;-) Vy 73, Bob DJ0MBC/WU5T ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Temperature
You can take a 50C unit out of the oven with your bare hands and it is so hot you drop it as fast as you can. I worked in high-speed fiber optic and microwave transmission system design before I retired. The rule-of-thumb (pun intended) was that 45 deg C was the threshold of pain. So if it was too hot to handle, it was over 45 deg C. Phil - AD5X ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Temperature Specifications
Hi Stewart, I have a K3/100 + KRX3/KXV3/KAT3. In RX/stby it runs 1.01 A @ 14V according to the K3 display. I agree that the temperature is quite high. With about 26.7 degC in the shack I read FP 41 degC and PA 36 degC after 1 hr stby. I guess the two DSPs are generating quite some heat + the FP lamps. I have the display at its lowest brightness (2). When I make a QSO with a couple of transmissions the PA temp rises to about 41~43 degC. The fans are very efficient in cooling down the PA quickly afterwards. Comparing the feel temp of the K3 case with other rigs (FT1000MP and IC736), give me the impression that all this is not excessive. BTW. I wonder what current exactly is measured and displayed (could not find a clue in the owner's manual). 14 W in standby with AF volume at normal level, with all my options, seems a bit low. I would rather expect something in the range of 50 to 100W. -- Enno, PF5X Stewart Baker wrote: Thanks Gary (and others), I think that since fitting the 2nd RX the unit gets quite a bit warmer. The supply volts are 13.7 and the current on receive is 1.07A, so that's about 14W, not excessive. If the unit is on receive and the fans are not running, the only place for the heat to escape from the front half of the K3 is via the speaker hole, and by conduction through the case. The slots at the back half of the top cover seem to let little heat out because of the height of the PA shield. Haven't got an 'official' reply yet. 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:03:37 -0700 (PDT), W7TEA wrote: Stewart, I don't know the specifications. My shack is 23C and the K3 has been on receive all day. The FP is 31-32C and PA is 30C. My fans start when I'm barely into a QSO and when the PA reaches 37C. I calibrated the PA just yesterday. 73, GAry W7TEA I have had my K3 on receive most of the day, whilst doing other things in the shack. By chance I touched the top of the case and it felt quite hot, given that the shack temperature is 26 deg. According to the LCD readout both the FP and PA temps were at 34 deg. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3---Temperature-Specifications-tp795559p832625.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Temperature Specifications
...14 W in standby with AF volume at normal level, with all my options, seems a bit low. I would rather expect something in the range of 50 to 100W. The heritage of the K3 is portable operation, so we worked pretty hard at keeping the current drain low without sacrificing performance. Maybe the K3 should be eligible for a Carbon Tax Credit? 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 - Temperature Specifications
I have had my K3 on receive most of the day, whilst doing other things in the shack. By chance I touched the top of the case and it felt quite hot, given that the shack temperature is 26 deg. According to the LCD readout both the FP and PA temps were at 34 deg. It got me wondering, what are the temperature specifications for the K3 ? I have looked through various paperwork on the Elecraft site, but can find no information on the subject. 73 Stewart G3RXQ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 temperature rise
Hi Stewart, Something wrong there - we have two K3s that run 48+ hours in serious CW contesting - minimal temperature rise for both rigs. 73, Ken ZL1AIH (ZM1A in contests) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Temperature Specifications
Stewart, I don't know the specifications. My shack is 23C and the K3 has been on receive all day. The FP is 31-32C and PA is 30C. My fans start when I'm barely into a QSO and when the PA reaches 37C. I calibrated the PA just yesterday. 73, GAry W7TEA I have had my K3 on receive most of the day, whilst doing other things in the shack. By chance I touched the top of the case and it felt quite hot, given that the shack temperature is 26 deg. According to the LCD readout both the FP and PA temps were at 34 deg. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3---Temperature-Specifications-tp795559p796476.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Temperature Specifications
Thanks Gary (and others), I think that since fitting the 2nd RX the unit gets quite a bit warmer. The supply volts are 13.7 and the current on receive is 1.07A, so that's about 14W, not excessive. If the unit is on receive and the fans are not running, the only place for the heat to escape from the front half of the K3 is via the speaker hole, and by conduction through the case. The slots at the back half of the top cover seem to let little heat out because of the height of the PA shield. Haven't got an 'official' reply yet. 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:03:37 -0700 (PDT), W7TEA wrote: Stewart, I don't know the specifications. My shack is 23C and the K3 has been on receive all day. The FP is 31-32C and PA is 30C. My fans start when I'm barely into a QSO and when the PA reaches 37C. I calibrated the PA just yesterday. 73, GAry W7TEA I have had my K3 on receive most of the day, whilst doing other things in the shack. By chance I touched the top of the case and it felt quite hot, given that the shack temperature is 26 deg. According to the LCD readout both the FP and PA temps were at 34 deg. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Temperature Readings
Everyone, How do I display my FP and Heat Sink temperatures on the front Panel? I did the calibration and the book explains that you tap Display and use XFO B to select the temperature reading you want displayed. When I tap Display all I can select is Time, Date, Current, and Voltage. No temp readings Could someone enlighten me on the error of my ways. Thanks. Dave KD1NA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Temperature Readings
You must turn Tech Mode ON to see the temp readings. -Bruce N1RX ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com