Re: [Elecraft] P3 + SVGA (and cables)

[Fred Jensen]

That's the connector where the K-POD connects in addition to whatever 
Elecraft techs use it for


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

Robert Brown via Elecraft wrote on 3/6/2024 6:34 PM:

Excellent condition P3 w/SVA option.  Only “defect” is that a underbody 
connector (presumably only used by Elecraft techs) is detached.  Will provide 
original part if replacement is desired, but seems to serve no useful purpose.  
Unit is otherwise in pristine operational and cosmetic condition. Will include 
cables for both K3 and K3s rigs. $775/shipped/insured CONUS.  Bob Brown, N1CVX 
(sashan...@yahoo.com)
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[Elecraft] P3 + SVGA (and cables)

[Robert Brown via Elecraft]

Excellent condition P3 w/SVA option.  Only “defect” is that a underbody 
connector (presumably only used by Elecraft techs) is detached.  Will provide 
original part if replacement is desired, but seems to serve no useful purpose.  
Unit is otherwise in pristine operational and cosmetic condition. Will include 
cables for both K3 and K3s rigs. $775/shipped/insured CONUS.  Bob Brown, N1CVX 
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[Elecraft] P3/SVGA

[BRUCE WW8II]

I have for sale my back up P3/SVGA  in the original box, and it comes with
the original manual and cables. $850. SN 4806 if interested contact me off
the reflector. I am good on QRZ.  US sales only .

Thanks
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[Elecraft] P3 SVGA card repair

[Dave Sublette]

Good afternoon,

My P3 was just returned from Elecraft, where I sent it for repair
(lightning).  The SVGA card was in the box with paperwork saying the U502
voltage regulator was replaced, but the unit was unrepairable.

Is there anyone on the list who would be willing to try and repair it?  I
know there was a discussion recently and I saved it (somewhere).  Wish I
could find it.


73,

Dave, K4TO

reply privately if you wish to mycall at  a r r l dot net
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[Elecraft] P3 SVGA board wanted

[Tom Boucher]

Does anyone have an SVGA board for the P3 Panadapter for sale?

Thanks,
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[Elecraft] P3 SVGA Option module

[Robert A. Hughes]

Looking for a P3 SVGA option module. 

Contact me if you have one for sale.

W7SNR
Bob Hughes
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA board blinking red light

[Michael Gillen via Elecraft]

OK thank you.


> On Jul 25, 2020, at 9:56 AM, Grant Youngman  wrote:
> 
> The blinking red light is normal.  Indicates the onboard processor is working.
> 
> Grant NQ5T
> 
>> On Jul 25, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Michael Gillen via Elecraft 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> My P3SVGA board is acting up and there is a blinking red light on the board 
>> (did not notice that before because the lid was always on).
>> 
>> Is the blinking red light bad? If yes, is there something I can do about it?
>> 
>> My symptoms are that I am unable to successfully load the FPGAx firmware - 
>> it fails for all FPGA’s with “block 657 write failed”.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks guys!
>> Michael
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA board blinking red light

[Grant Youngman]

The blinking red light is normal.  Indicates the onboard processor is working.

Grant NQ5T

> On Jul 25, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Michael Gillen via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> My P3SVGA board is acting up and there is a blinking red light on the board 
> (did not notice that before because the lid was always on).
> 
> Is the blinking red light bad? If yes, is there something I can do about it?
> 
> My symptoms are that I am unable to successfully load the FPGAx firmware - it 
> fails for all FPGA’s with “block 657 write failed”.
> 
> 
> Thanks guys!
> Michael
> KK6RWK
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[Elecraft] P3 SVGA board blinking red light

[Michael Gillen via Elecraft]

My P3SVGA board is acting up and there is a blinking red light on the board 
(did not notice that before because the lid was always on).

Is the blinking red light bad? If yes, is there something I can do about it?

My symptoms are that I am unable to successfully load the FPGAx firmware - it 
fails for all FPGA’s with “block 657 write failed”.


Thanks guys!
Michael
KK6RWK

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[Elecraft] P3 SVGA kit

[Robert A. Hughes]

Looking for a P3 SVGA kit. If anyone has one for sale, please let me know.

Thanks,

Bob Hughes
W7SNR
Cave Creek, AZ
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Re: [Elecraft] P3/SVGA Macro and USB

[Dave Cole]

Hi Dave,

Using the setup described at:

https://www.nk7z.net/adding-external-keypad-k3/

I have been unable to swap to a KBD from the Genovation.  I direct swap 
fails, so prior to purchasing a switch, do a manual replace to insure it 
works for you...


Macro Loading is by hand, using that God awful editor that lives in the P3.

I was thinking of writing an editor for the file the P3 generates, but 
as it is Elecraft hardware, (and I, not having the specs for it), have 
decided to not do that, so I don't break the hardware inadvertently.


I seem to remember a Macro Editor for the P3 being promised as well, but 
for the life of me, I can't find the reference to it now...


You are correct, it is a PITA to enter 48 macros by hand...

But, hacing the radio macro set available at a sngle button press has 
been a Godsend for pile up operations...  I have a macro spread sheet 
there, that has a "Split + 5", macro, so when I hear VP8PJ, I SPOT it, 
then hit the "SPLIT + 5" button, that moves the DX station to the left 
side of the P3, opens the bandwidth of the P3 up to 6 KHz., and makes 
VFO B the transmit VFO, leaving the DX station on the left side.  Makes 
it a snap to find a hole and work them.  Using that method, iot took me 
three button presses, and a few tuning adjustments to get them on 40...


I can tell you from experience, that using the Genovation, and it's 48 
macro launch buttons makes using the radio a breeze.  I had occasion to 
use a friends K3, without a Genovation, and it felt crippling...


Please let me know what you find for Macro Editors, or external 
keyboards, I'll add it to the web page on the Genovation...


73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
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ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 2/29/20 9:08 AM, David Box wrote:
I am in the process of getting a Genovation KeyPad working with the 
P3/SVGA but also want to have the keyboard available as I like to run 
RTTY and CW without the computer.  So I have a few questions:


1) Has anyone found a USB switch that would allow selectable use of a 
keyboard or the genovation with the P3/SVGA.  There are multiple USB 
switches for sharing peripherals between computers but I have found 
nothing that serves as manual USB hub equivalent.  The P3 cannot work 
with a USB hub so need something like the old RS232 switch box.  Right 
now I just plug and unplug but laziness is the mother of invention so 
looking for a simpler approach.


2) What methods are people using to load macros into the P3/SVGA.  The 
only approach I am a aware of is through manual keyboard entry which is 
error prone.  I believe that once the macros are stored in the P3/SVGA 
that they are saved with the configuration but there is no ability to 
edit the 50 macro locations.  Back on 6/11/2018 Paul had stated "...The 
next BETA release of P3/SVGA firmware will include the ability to 
export/import macros from/to the SVGA just like the PX3." but I am 
unable to find any BETA releases since that time.   The P3 Utility is 
limited to only 16 Macros so that doesn't handle the problem. The 
capability that the PX3 has for exporting/importing/editing of macros 
would be extremely helpful.


3) Using the the P3 MENU -> SVGA menu->  SVGA Usav you can save the SVGA 
state via USB stick which creates a file "SVGASET.sav" file name.  I am 
able to open this file with a Notepad++ and see that it does contain 
macro information but I cannot find any information on the file format. 
File contains a lot of NUL characters and appears to have 3 sections. 
Has anyone decoded this format and knows how to safely edit?  The PX3 
Programmers Manual shows the format for the PX3 files and it appears 
that the macro section may be the same but looking for more definitive 
information.


TNX de Dave K5MWR

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[Elecraft] P3/SVGA Macro and USB

[David Box]

I am in the process of getting a Genovation KeyPad working with the 
P3/SVGA but also want to have the keyboard available as I like to run 
RTTY and CW without the computer.  So I have a few questions:


1) Has anyone found a USB switch that would allow selectable use of a 
keyboard or the genovation with the P3/SVGA.  There are multiple USB 
switches for sharing peripherals between computers but I have found 
nothing that serves as manual USB hub equivalent.  The P3 cannot work 
with a USB hub so need something like the old RS232 switch box.  Right 
now I just plug and unplug but laziness is the mother of invention so 
looking for a simpler approach.


2) What methods are people using to load macros into the P3/SVGA.  The 
only approach I am a aware of is through manual keyboard entry which is 
error prone.  I believe that once the macros are stored in the P3/SVGA 
that they are saved with the configuration but there is no ability to 
edit the 50 macro locations.  Back on 6/11/2018 Paul had stated "...The 
next BETA release of P3/SVGA firmware will include the ability to 
export/import macros from/to the SVGA just like the PX3." but I am 
unable to find any BETA releases since that time.   The P3 Utility is 
limited to only 16 Macros so that doesn't handle the problem. The 
capability that the PX3 has for exporting/importing/editing of macros 
would be extremely helpful.


3) Using the the P3 MENU -> SVGA menu->  SVGA Usav you can save the SVGA 
state via USB stick which creates a file "SVGASET.sav" file name.  I am 
able to open this file with a Notepad++ and see that it does contain 
macro information but I cannot find any information on the file format.  
File contains a lot of NUL characters and appears to have 3 sections.  
Has anyone decoded this format and knows how to safely edit?  The PX3 
Programmers Manual shows the format for the PX3 files and it appears 
that the macro section may be the same but looking for more definitive 
information.


TNX de Dave K5MWR

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[Elecraft] P3 SVGA Display issue

[David Winarsky]

Hi all,

I just finished installing and setting up the SVGA option for my P3.  All 
appears to be working fine, except the spectrum is displayed differently on the 
monitor than on the P3 itself.  The signals sit above the horizontal divider 
rather than immediately at it.  When adjusting the ref level, they pop back 
down to the correct location where they sit at the divider but then begin 
creeping up again.  This makes adjusting the spectrum properly for the 
waterfall very difficult.  As I mentioned, this does not happen on the P3 
display.

It seems like this has something to do with the averaging, but I’m at a loss 
for how to correct it.

External display with fill enabled:
https://imgur.com/4GQHKhH 

External display with fill disabled:
https://imgur.com/71dT7pJ 

P3 display (notice no bar and the signals sit at the horizontal divider instead 
of above):
https://imgur.com/gvFbVI8 

Appreciate any advice.

73,
David K6ZD
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA Question

[donovanf]

Hi Bill, 


Elecraft's web site does a remarkably poor job marketing the 
significantly improved performance of the P3SVGA compared 
to the basic P3. 


The P3SVGA is NOT simply an SVGA monitor adapter, its a 
much higher performance FFT processor and SVGA adapter. 

A picture is worth a thousand words. Compare pages 11 and 12 in 
N6TV's presentation: 


www.contestuniversity.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/12-N6TV_Dayton_2019_Using_Waterfall_Displays.pdf
 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 



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Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 9:13:42 PM 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA Question 

I suspect that might be a function of the monitor. 

Why put a small image of the P3 on a big monitor. Just look at the small P3 
image itself. 

Sent from my iPhone 
...nr4c. bill 


> On Oct 17, 2019, at 5:10 PM, n...@n1ix.com wrote: 
> 
> I have a P3 with the SVGA option installed. 
> 
> Is it possible to display the frequency spectrum in a window rather than 
> using the entire monitor? 
> 
> 
> 
> 73 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA Question

[Nr4c]

I suspect that might be a function of the monitor. 

Why put a small image of the P3 on a big monitor. Just look at the small P3 
image itself. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Oct 17, 2019, at 5:10 PM, n...@n1ix.com wrote:
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> I have a P3 with the SVGA option installed.
> 
> Is it possible to display the frequency spectrum in a window rather than
> using the entire monitor?
> 
> 
> 
> 73
> 
> Dave N1IX
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[Elecraft] P3 SVGA Question

[n1ix]

I have a P3 with the SVGA option installed.

Is it possible to display the frequency spectrum in a window rather than
using the entire monitor?

 

73

Dave N1IX

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA Display Waterfall Contrast (Mark / WU6R)

[Jim Brown]

On 6/23/2019 5:53 AM, Mark Wheeler via Elecraft wrote:
I've recently noticed that I have almost no waterfall displaying on my 
24" monitor which makes using the SVGA feature almost useless.  I 
thought maybe it was because of poor band conditions, but now I'm 
wondering if there is something that needs to be adjusted...


Have you studied the manual?  There are menu settings for this.

73, Jim K9YC

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[Elecraft] P3 SVGA Display Waterfall Contrast (Mark / WU6R)

[Mark Wheeler via Elecraft]

I've recently noticed that I have almost no waterfall displaying on my 24" monitor 
which makes using the SVGA feature almost useless.  I thought maybe it was because of 
poor band conditions, but now I'm wondering if there is something that needs to be 
adjusted...  I used to have a near exact replica of the P3 display showing on my 24" 
monitor.  I did swap out and connect another monitor and I'm still missing the waterfall 
contrast.  The P3 SVGA resolution is set to 1920 x 1080, which is where I've always had 
it set.  I haven't adjusted any other settings lately.


Is there a way to adjust the SVGA contrast that the P3 SVGA board is 
outputting?  Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.


73,
Mark / WU6R


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA - measuring occupied bandwidth

[Jim Brown]

On 5/23/2018 6:47 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

The greater difficulty is in measuring the occupied bandwidth of very
narrow modes (e.g. JT65, JT9, FT8, RTTY or even CW) due to the 2 KHz
minimum span of the P3 ... a 500 Hz span would be better for measuring
narrow modes. 


Not so difficult at all, using the methods I outlined in a previous 
post. I have successfully used it on RTTY, CW, PSK31 an a steady 
carrier. Most of that data is summarized in this Power Point pdf. Most 
of these data are from the SVGA.


http://k9yc.com/P3_Spectrum_Measurements.pdf

Note -- TXEQ in my K3s are set maximum rolloff of the 50, 100, and 200 
Hz octave bands and some rolloff of the 400 Hz band. This accounts for 
the difference in the shape of the top of the curve between my K3s and 
other rigs tested.


73, Jim K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA - measuring occupied bandwidth

[Jim Brown]

On 5/23/2018 12:54 AM, Richard Lamont wrote:

Jim - in this context, are you using the definition of "occupied
bandwidth" as in ITU RR 1.153, i.e. 99% mean power? If so, how do you do
that with the P3 SVGA?


For CW, I transmit a long series of dits, put the P3 in peak mode, and 
accumulate peaks. When the display stops changing, I freeze it, use the 
cursor to manually log enough points to define the curve on both sides 
of the carrier, starting at -20dB carrier and every 5 dB until the data 
falls off screen. I then save the screen to a file.


I've done essentially the same thing with RTTY and PSK.  For SSB, my 
test signal is bandwidth limited Pink Noise. Pink Noise is widely used 
as an audio test signal because both spectral balance and dynamics are a 
good first approximation of speech. Pink Noise is defined as equal power 
per percentage bandwidth, whereas white noise is equal voltage per Hz. 
Pink noise can be though of as white noise with a 3dB per octave 
rolloff. That's not easy to generate -- an RC rolloff is 6 dB/octave.


And this important comment. NC0B uses White Noise as a source. This is 
VERY BAD practice, because it puts nearly all of the modulation above 
the voice spectrum, and greatly de-emphasizes speech. I've corrected him 
on this three times, first as long as five years ago, yet he continues 
to do it wrong. The importance of this is that GOOD audio processing is 
designed for the spectrum and dynamics of speech, so any audio test 
signal should approximate speech as closely as possible. Rob is a great 
engineer and does ham radio a great service with his testing, but he 
fails to even attempt to understand the difference between RF and audio.


As to my credentials to say this -- I spent 40 years in pro audio, with 
much of my work directed to sound systems for both speech 
intelligibility and music. For 20 years, I've been a member of the AES 
Standards Committee, and of Working Groups on Speech Intellibility. 
About ten years ago, I was elected a Fellow of the AES.


73, Jim K9YC

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[Elecraft] P3 SVGA schematics and usb port

[Jim Shepherd]

Hi,
   The SVGA schematics were missing at
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/P3_svga_D_sch.pdf...
I was trying to see if the 5 Vdc was available at the keyboard port to
drive a SVGA to HDMI converter or if it needed to be turned on in software.
I could not find this information in the manual.

Other than not having power, plugging the video adapter in did not seem to
affect the operation of the P3, and when I plugged the adapter into a USB
power adapter, I got the full display on the monitor.  I'm looking at using
a split screen at an upcoming special event...

Jim W6US
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA - measuring occupied bandwidth

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

On 2018-05-23 3:54 AM, Richard Lamont wrote:
>
Jim - in this context, are you using the definition of "occupied 
bandwidth" as in ITU RR 1.153, i.e. 99% mean power? If so, how do you

do that with the P3 SVGA?


Whilst it's not completely accurate, it is very easy to approximate
the "occupied bandwidth" of reasonably strong signals using the P3.
Set average to maximum and look at the points 20 dB down on either
side.  This will over estimate the bandwidth of a signal depending
on the peak to average ratio of the given modulation (e.g., level of
clipping of an SSB signal) but still provides a useful first order
approximation.

The greater difficulty is in measuring the occupied bandwidth of very
narrow modes (e.g. JT65, JT9, FT8, RTTY or even CW) due to the 2 KHz
minimum span of the P3 ... a 500 Hz span would be better for measuring
narrow modes.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2018-05-23 3:54 AM, Richard Lamont wrote:

On 22/05/18 19:57, Jim Brown wrote:


Yes. AND in the hands of a knowledgeable engineer/technician, a near
lab-quality test instrument, with a display that can easily be
calibrated to the signal level at the antenna input. I've used it to
measure occupied bandwidth of transmitted signals to precision of a few
Hz, and the SVGA board, with it's separate, higher res FFT, improves
that to one Hz.


Jim - in this context, are you using the definition of "occupied
bandwidth" as in ITU RR 1.153, i.e. 99% mean power? If so, how do you do
that with the P3 SVGA?

73,

Richard G4DYA

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[Elecraft] P3 SVGA - measuring occupied bandwidth

[Richard Lamont]

On 22/05/18 19:57, Jim Brown wrote:

> Yes. AND in the hands of a knowledgeable engineer/technician, a near
> lab-quality test instrument, with a display that can easily be
> calibrated to the signal level at the antenna input. I've used it to
> measure occupied bandwidth of transmitted signals to precision of a few
> Hz, and the SVGA board, with it's separate, higher res FFT, improves
> that to one Hz.

Jim - in this context, are you using the definition of "occupied
bandwidth" as in ITU RR 1.153, i.e. 99% mean power? If so, how do you do
that with the P3 SVGA?

73,

Richard G4DYA

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA interference -

[Don Wilhelm]

Mike,

I don't think I have seen this as a suggestion so far in the thread.

It is important that you dress the cables for the SVGA option exactly as 
shown in the installation manual.

If they do not want to stay in place, use a ty-wrap around the cables.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/11/2018 12:50 PM, mjpilgrim wrote:

I am almost overwhelmed by all the very thoughtful suggestions.  Here's what
I know so far.

I had previously performed the idea of turning off all items in the room
except for the radio and P3, but the reported symptom remains.  I then
switched my antenna switch to the grounded position, and the problem goes
away. Now my suspicion is that my rfi is created from outside my
house.  My antenna system consists of two end fed long wires, 90% opposed to
each other, and a minimal vertical out behind the house.


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA interference -

[mjpilgrim]

Somehow I managed to lose my last post describing the attached photo. 
suffice to say my Span is set for 14.000-14.104MHZ and my cursor is tuned to
14.029, but notice that the baseline noise level while near S-2 across most
of the band, shows a hump back at the center of the screen and the waterfall
depicts the width of the distortion.  Anyone with any suggestion beyond what
I have offered, I'm all ears.  Note that this phenom. occurs only on 20
Meters.

Thanks,
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA interference -

[mjpilgrim]

I am almost overwhelmed by all the very thoughtful suggestions.  Here's what
I know so far.

I had previously performed the idea of turning off all items in the room
except for the radio and P3, but the reported symptom remains.  I then
switched my antenna switch to the grounded position, and the problem goes
away. Now my suspicion is that my rfi is created from outside my
house.  My antenna system consists of two end fed long wires, 90% opposed to
each other, and a minimal vertical out behind the house.

The RFI from all antennas is approximately equal in amplitude as I select
them one at a time (with the vertical slightly less but I attribute that to
the relative poor receive sensitivity on that antenna.  Nonetheless, the RFI
on that antenna is quite noticeable.

I hesitate to bother for additional thoughts at this point, at least until I
can asses what possible causes external to my house might be at play, and
now to pay close attention to whether or not it changes depending on the
hour of the day.  For example, at first notice of this problem I sensed that
everything was normal until for example, the beginning of the work day.  I
soon discounted that thought however, when I realized it was happening late
at night (as was the case up until I shut down last night around 11pm).  And
it affects only 20 Meters.  All other bands are viewed normally.

Perhaps once I can capture and submit a picture for review here, someone
might be able to make a little more sense out of what I'm trying to
describe.If I can say it this way, it reminds me of a TV commercial
where folks are in a Gymnasium doing a strength regimen involving holding a
rope in each hand and making it serpentine by moving the arms up and down. 
Only that sine wave of baseline noise moves from S-2 to as high as S-7 when
using my best antenna..  I'll try to get a picture attached later
this afternoon.

Thanks for the help so far.
Mike, K5MP





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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA interference -

[donovanf]

Does the RFI go away if you remove the antenna connection to your radio? 


Does it vary when you rotate your antenna? 

73 
Frank 
W3LPL 

- Original Message -

From: "mjpilgrim" <mpilg...@bellsouth.net> 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 12:04:49 AM 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA interference - 

I have the P3 attached to a HP 23" flat screen. I power off the external 
monitor and still have the issue on the P3 internal monitor. I power off 
the monitor on two PCs in the room and power off the flat screen TV in the 
room. Still no relief. 

I removed and reconnected all connections on the back of the P3, then 
removed the top cover so I could attempt to change the symptoms by touching 
and/or moving the ribbon cable and connectors. No change. 

I have snapped a couple pics, so will attempt later to share those if 
possible. Thanks for your replies. 
Mike, K5MP 



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA interference -

[mjpilgrim]

I have the P3 attached to a HP 23" flat screen.  I power off the external
monitor and still have the issue on the P3 internal monitor.  I power off
the monitor on two PCs in the room and power off the flat screen TV in the
room.  Still no relief.

I removed and reconnected all connections on the back of the P3, then
removed the top cover so I could attempt to change the symptoms by touching
and/or moving the ribbon cable and connectors.  No change.

I have snapped a couple pics, so will attempt later to share those if
possible.  Thanks for your replies.
Mike, K5MP



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA interference -

[donovanf]

Hi Mike, 


Have you tried turning your monitor off? I've never had the issue 
you describe 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 

- Original Message -

From: "mjpilgrim" <mpilg...@bellsouth.net> 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2018 8:32:03 PM 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA interference - 

I wonder if this discussion and suggested ribbon clips address my issue. I 
acquired my K3 this past summer and then a P3 off of eBay shortly 
thereafter. I installed the SVGA adapter a couple months ago and I have a 
problem which sounds similar to what is described in this thread. For lack 
of a better description let me say this symptom happens only on 
20Meters. as I view my spectrum now from 14.250 to 14.350 the noise 
floor rests basically around S-2 across the entire band, revealing a few 
transmitted ham conversations, My center frequency on the scope is 14.300 
and at this moment I see occasional noise peaks rising up to as high as S-5 
in two or three instances approximately 10khz wide, and at times 20 khz or 
wider. These noise peaks are not consistent with any observed or detected 
human voice transmission. At times I can see a very broad band of noise on 
the waterfall which spans the entirety of the floating noise floor. The 
same observation occurs when I am tuned down in the CW portion of the band. 

I don't recall if this observation was present prior to adding the SVGA 
adapter, and I've not thought about opening the P3 to inspect or move any 
cables. 

I know this symptom can best be demonstrated with a photo, so if that would 
be beneficial, I will be happy to oblige. Just let me know who needs to see 
it. 

This is certainly a very annoying issue I wish to resolve. I'm open to any 
ideas or suggestions. 
Thanks, Mike, K5MP 



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA interference -

[James Wilson]

Mike,

You didn't mention if you had a large monitor connected but
consider that the noise you "see" may come from it or a TV
your have connected.

Do you see the pattern on the P3 also?

Watch the P3 screen and turn the large monitor off and see if
the signal disappears. Many of them do make a lot of electrical
"noise" - particularly the screen light source and very particularly
plasma displays.

Jim - W4RKS

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>I wonder if this discussion and suggested ribbon clips address my issue.  I
>acquired my K3 this past summer and then a P3 off of eBay shortly
>thereafter.  I installed the SVGA adapter a couple months ago and I have a
>problem which sounds similar to what is described in this thread.

. . .

>I don't recall if this observation was present prior to adding the SVGA
>adapter, and I've not thought about opening the P3 to inspect or move any
>cables.

. . .

>Thanks, Mike, K5MP
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA interference -

[mjpilgrim]

I wonder if this discussion and suggested ribbon clips address my issue.  I
acquired my K3 this past summer and then a P3 off of eBay shortly
thereafter.  I installed the SVGA adapter a couple months ago and I have a
problem which sounds similar to what is described in this thread.  For lack
of a better description let me say this symptom happens only on
20Meters. as I view my spectrum now  from 14.250 to 14.350 the noise
floor rests basically around S-2 across the entire band, revealing a few
transmitted ham conversations,  My center frequency on the scope is 14.300
and at this moment I see occasional noise peaks  rising up to as high as S-5
in two or three instances approximately 10khz wide, and at times 20 khz or 
wider.  These noise peaks are not consistent with any observed or detected
human voice transmission.  At times  I can see a very broad band of noise on
the waterfall which spans the entirety of the floating noise floor.  The
same observation occurs when I am tuned down in the CW portion of the band.

I don't recall if this observation was present prior to adding the SVGA
adapter, and I've not thought about opening the P3 to inspect or move any
cables.

I know this symptom can best be demonstrated with a photo, so if that would
be beneficial, I will be happy to oblige.  Just let me know who needs to see
it.

This is certainly a very annoying issue I wish to resolve.  I'm open to any
ideas or suggestions.
Thanks, Mike, K5MP 



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA macro editor

[K8TE]

Me too!

Additionally, I think it would be great to have the ability to change, save,
and read all settings, similar to K3_Ez.  I've just spent 45 minutes walking
a friend through various P3 settings.  It would have been nice if I could
have e-mail him a file to upload into his P3.

The same would be great for all Elecraft hardware which is electronically
accessible!

73, Bill, K8TE



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA macro editor

[K5MWR via Elecraft]

I would love to see this also

Dave K5MWR


On 10/26/2017 10:10 AM, Chuck Teague via Elecraft wrote:

Is there anything in the works to provide a macro editor for the P3 that allows 
creation and editing of the 50 macros in the SVGA? That would be really helpful 
and a vast improvement over the present, very limited, editing capability.
Chuck TeagueNN7U
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA macro editor

[Dave Cole (NK7Z)]

I second that!  I would LOVE a macro editor.

73s and thanks,
Dave
NK7Z
http://www.nk7z.net

On 10/26/2017 08:10 AM, Chuck Teague via Elecraft wrote:

Is there anything in the works to provide a macro editor for the P3 that allows 
creation and editing of the 50 macros in the SVGA? That would be really helpful 
and a vast improvement over the present, very limited, editing capability.
Chuck TeagueNN7U
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[Elecraft] P3 SVGA macro editor

[Chuck Teague via Elecraft]

Is there anything in the works to provide a macro editor for the P3 that allows 
creation and editing of the 50 macros in the SVGA? That would be really helpful 
and a vast improvement over the present, very limited, editing capability.
Chuck TeagueNN7U 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3/SVGA Digital terminal questions

[n6hz]

Hi Ken, 

1) That is correct.  The P3/SVGA does not actually decode any RF.  All that
is done inside the radio and you must choose between any of built-in modes,
such as FSK-D, PSK-D or CW.

2) The manual instructs you to turn off text display ONLY if you're going to
use the K3 or P3 Utility's data terminal mode.  Text decode on the radio
will need to be turned on (see #1 above). 

3) The P3/SVGA setup screen which is accessed via Ctrl-Alt-S on an attached
keyboard is used to set a variety of settings pertaining to the keyboard
aspect of the system.  For example, setting the foreground and background
colors for the text window on the SVGA screen.  Also setting up the text
transmit mode, i.e. send on Enter key press, space bar key press, etc.  
This controls when the text is sent to the radio to be transmitted, for
example, when the Enter key is pressed, or the space bar etc. 

If you need additional help or have any questions, please email me directly. 
My email is pauls at you know where dot com.  (elecraft)

Kindly, 

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[Elecraft] P3/SVGA Digital terminal questions

[Ken K6MR]

I'm trying to assist a local with his K3S/P3/SVGA using the P3 terminal. I 
don't have the SVGA so trying to piece together the info using the manuals.  A 
few questions for all you P3 Terminal Digital mode users:


1. The P3 terminal setup looks to be identical for all modes. Mode is 
apparently set by selecting FSK-D, PSK-D or CW from the K3. Correct?


2. It says to keep text decode off on the K3. Does the Threshold adjustment 
have any effect? I've never used text decode. Is Auto good enough?


3. It looks like the easiest way to set everything up is Ctrl-Alt-S on the 
keyboard and adjust from there. Any reason to get into the 'regular' menus 
through the Menu button?


Thanks for any pointers you can pass on.


Ken K6MR
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Re: [Elecraft] [P3] SVGA Option: transmitted text not visible on external display

[Adrian Helwig via Elecraft]

Ok thanks!Any Idea if this will be implemented in the future?I was convinced 
that this will be the same as with PX3 where this is implementedTechnically, no 
issue, right?
73, Adrian, DH1AHL
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Re: [Elecraft] [P3] SVGA Option: transmitted text not visible on external display

[Charles R.Tropp via Elecraft]

Hi Adrian,
The only way to view transmitted cw on the P3 transmit window would be by using 
an USB keyboard plugged into the rear of the P3. Paddles will not work. 73, 
Charles N2SO
Treasurer, Quarter Century Wireless Association, Inc. http://QCWA.org 

On Saturday, April 15, 2017 7:21 AM, Adrian Helwig via Elecraft 
 wrote:
 

 Hello,I finally was able to set up the SVGA option in my P3 but I'm just 
wondering why when transmitting CW with my paddle text is not visible on the 
external display.Everything seems to be setup correctly.thanks for Your help
Adrian, DH1AHL, 
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[Elecraft] [P3] SVGA Option: transmitted text not visible on external display

[Adrian Helwig via Elecraft]

Hello,I finally was able to set up the SVGA option in my P3 but I'm just 
wondering why when transmitting CW with my paddle text is not visible on the 
external display.Everything seems to be setup correctly.thanks for Your help
Adrian, DH1AHL, 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA works, but text stops

[KC6CNN]

Okay very strange problem. 
The keyboard would quit working but showed it had power to it. 
Then finally the waterfall stopped. 
I switched to dummy load to make sure it was not a rf problem, still did not
work. 
I did a complete reset and still did not fix the problem. 
I took the case off of the P3 and took the P3SVGA board off which houses the
USB.
I cleaned everything up and reseated the board and put it all back together. 
Bingo. Something fixed it. It was either the cleaning up all contacts, or
seating them. 
The P3 is back running like a champ. 
This P3 does so much more than I knew it did. 
Okay listed it here just in case someone else has these strange symptoms. 
Thanks
Gerald





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[Elecraft] P3 SVGA works, but text stops

[KC6CNN]

Okay today I was working with the P3 as to my earlier post hihi. 
I was sending psk, rtty and cw with the keyboard connected to the P3. 
All of a sudden the keyboard stops responding to any key or command. 
The P3 and SVGA are still showing the bands and waterfalls and all is
functioning right except for the keyboard will not type. 
I have done this before with no problems, I have not changed anything else
except adding a few more control alt t macros. 

I have reloaded the latest firmware and went and checked all my settings. 
I turned the P3 off and back on and it works for a couple of minutes and
then stops again. 

Any suggestions?

Thanks
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA Scratch Pad

[KC6CNN]

Thank you so much for the info. 
I guess I need to check and update my manuals a little more. 
Thanks again that is what I needed. 
Gerald




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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA Scratch Pad

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

See Page 30 of the Rev H1 P3 Owner's Manual. If you have an older version,
you can download the latest from Elecraft here:

http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740152%20P3%20Owner's%20man%20Rev%20H1.pdf

73, Ron AC7AC

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Subject: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA Scratch Pad

Does anyone know what the scratch pad is for? Or where does the information
go that is entered in to the scratch pad? Is there a way to transmit this
scratch pad info?

Thanks
Gerald
 



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[Elecraft] P3 SVGA Scratch Pad

[KC6CNN]

Does anyone know what the scratch pad is for? Or where does the information
go that is entered in to the scratch pad? Is there a way to transmit this
scratch pad info?

Thanks
Gerald
 



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA Feature Request

[Dave Cole]

On Wed, 2016-06-15 at 12:02 -0700, KD3RF wrote:
> It would be great if the VGA adapter showed tic marks and frequency
> across
> the top or bottom of the display screen every 10 kHz or so like in
> this
> mocked-up picture.
> 
>  
> 
> Scaling of the frequency display should change as bandwith is
> changed.  For
> example, if looking at full band, scaling would be a tic mark every 20
> Khz. 
> If looking at a 50 kHz slice, scaling should be a tic mark every 2
> kHz.
> 
> Could something like this be accomplished with a software patch??
> 
> de Andy, KD3RF
> 
> 
I would not mind that either, in fact, I would like to have some
vertical markings for frequency on the P3 itself as well...
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[Elecraft] P3 SVGA Feature Request

[KD3RF]

It would be great if the VGA adapter showed tic marks and frequency across
the top or bottom of the display screen every 10 kHz or so like in this
mocked-up picture.

 

Scaling of the frequency display should change as bandwith is changed.  For
example, if looking at full band, scaling would be a tic mark every 20 Khz. 
If looking at a 50 kHz slice, scaling should be a tic mark every 2 kHz.

Could something like this be accomplished with a software patch??

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA problem

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Well, we do update the manuals regularly through errata and updates when
they are reprinted to cover new features. 

Bill makes a good point. We'll make it abundantly clear that the P3SVGA
requires an external SVGA monitor to use all of its features. 

Tnx and 73, 

Ron AC7AC

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA problem

I suppose. But the monitor is what most users wanted in the beginning and
more recent features weren't even in their dreams when the manual was
written  

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On May 15, 2016, at 10:21 AM, Bill <w2...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> Never mind - got help to move things around and plugged a monitor into the
SVGA port. All fixed.
> 
> Too bad the instruction manual never explicitly state that requirement.
Would have saved hours of time and effort.
> 
> Bill W2BLC K-Line

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA problem

[Nr4c]

I suppose. But the monitor is what most users wanted in the beginning and more 
recent features weren't even in their dreams when the manual was written  

Sent from my iPhone
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> On May 15, 2016, at 10:21 AM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> Never mind - got help to move things around and plugged a monitor into the 
> SVGA port. All fixed.
> 
> Too bad the instruction manual never explicitly state that requirement. Would 
> have saved hours of time and effort.
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA problem

[Bill]

Never mind - got help to move things around and plugged a monitor into 
the SVGA port. All fixed.


Too bad the instruction manual never explicitly state that requirement. 
Would have saved hours of time and effort.


Bill W2BLC K-Line
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA problem

[Dave Cole]

Hi Bill,
No, no external monitor is used...  You should see a message pop up on
the P3 screen, indicating a USB device has been plugged in, when you
plug in a keyboard.  If this does not happen, and you are sure you are
using a dumb keyboard, not a multimedia keyboard, then something is
either not set up correctly, or broken.  If setup might be the issue,
look in Cady's book, if broken, give Elecraft a call...  It has been
too long for me to remember if setup can break this...

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On Sun, 2016-05-15 at 09:28 -0400, Bill wrote:
> I installed the SVGA board in my P3 and am unable to access the
> terminal 
> mode. In effect, the P3 operates as it always did prior to the SVGA 
> installation - nothing is new. I have installed the latest firmware
> - 
> for the entire station.
> 
> I only bought the SVGA for macro uses - hence, did not plan to have
> an 
> external monitor installed. Is an external monitor required for this 
> purpose?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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[Elecraft] P3 SVGA problem

[Bill]

I installed the SVGA board in my P3 and am unable to access the terminal 
mode. In effect, the P3 operates as it always did prior to the SVGA 
installation - nothing is new. I have installed the latest firmware - 
for the entire station.


I only bought the SVGA for macro uses - hence, did not plan to have an 
external monitor installed. Is an external monitor required for this 
purpose?


Thanks,

Bill W2BLC K-Line
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA questions

[Alan Bloom]

On 04/22/2016 12:08 PM, Mike Dodd wrote:


1. I found some 6" LCD monitors commonly used with Raspberry Pi devices.
If a monitor is specified as VGA, will the P3 SVGA option drive it OK?
The user manual seems to imply that it will, with the various display
resolutions, but I'd like to be sure before I order either one.


It should work as long as it has one of the P3/SVGA's supported screen 
resolutions:


- 1024 x 768
- 1280 x 1024
- 1440 x 900
- 1920 x 1080


2. The user manual says I can switch the SVGA output on and off. If the
SVGA is on, is the P3's internal display turned off, or is there a way I
can turn it off?


You can turn the display brightness to zero with the "LCD Brt" menu item.

Alan N1AL

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[Elecraft] P3 SVGA questions

[Mike Dodd]

After being disappointed by the P3's inability to display decode CW and 
data text (as the PX3 does) without the SVGA option (that's definitely 
the BOO of the week!), I am now searching for a tiny monitor that won't 
wipe out half my remaining desk space.


I have a couple of questions:

1. I found some 6" LCD monitors commonly used with Raspberry Pi devices. 
If a monitor is specified as VGA, will the P3 SVGA option drive it OK? 
The user manual seems to imply that it will, with the various display 
resolutions, but I'd like to be sure before I order either one.


2. The user manual says I can switch the SVGA output on and off. If the 
SVGA is on, is the P3's internal display turned off, or is there a way I 
can turn it off?


Thanks for any info.

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[Elecraft] P3/SVGA 1.60/1.34 General Release, Now Available

[Paul Saffren N6HZ]

P3/SVGA 1.60/1.34 Firmware is now available as a general release.  Please be
sure to download, install and use the latest version of P3 Utility which can
be found here: 
http://www.elecraft.com/software/P3/P3_Utility_Setup_1_16_3_15.exe

Currently our tech writer is in the process of updating the P3/SVGA manual. 
In the meantime, please refer to the release notes which I have also
included below.  The main features of this release are the ability to
include P3 commands in SVGA keyboard macros, new #RCF (relative center
frequency) command, support for the K3S preamp/attenuator stages, as well as
several important bug fixes. 

Very 73, 
Paul n6hz

MCU 01.60 / 3-21-2016

Version 01.60 requires SVGA firmware 01.34 to support all SVGA features.

* P3 commands in keyboard macros: Added support to allow P3 commands to be
embedded in SVGA keyboard macros.  When entering a keyboard macro using a
USB keyboard attached to the P3/SVGA, P3 commands can now be intermixed with
K3 commands by preceding the with the '#' character.  Example: set up a
macro to set the K3 to PSK31, frequency 14.070, P3 span of 100 kHz, fixed
tune enabled:   
FA0001407;MD6;DT3;#SPN001000;#FXT1;

* SVGA keyboard macros as function keys: The first 8 SVGA keyboard macros
can now be executed from the 8 front panel function keys.  First, using a
keyboard, program the macro and make sure to save it into one of the first 8
locations (mem 1 - 8).  Then on the P3, press the MENU button and using the
encoder, select the SVGA menu and press the encoder to enter. Then using the
encoder, choose "Macro 1" through "Macro 8",  then press the function key
(short tap or long hold) to map the macro to the function key. 

* Enable/disable TX sensing at the TxMon coupler: Added TxSensEn to TxMon
sub-menu.  This allows enabling/disabling of transmit sensing at the
coupler.  For K3 and K3S users, TxSensEn can be set to "disabled", which
will use the serial connection from the K3 to determine the TX state.
Setting TxSensEn to "enabled" will use forward power sensed at the TxMon
coupler to determine TX state (useful for non-Elecraft radios). 

* New #RCF command: "Relative Center Frequency" applies an offset to the
center frequency based on the passed argument.  Usage: #RCFsnn;  Where:
's' is the sign + or -, nn is the offset in Hz.  For example, if the P3
is set to a 30 kHz span and you would like to position the cursor on the
left edge: #RCF+015000;   Using #RCF without any arguments returns the
difference in Hz between the center frequency and the vfo frequency. 

* K3S attenuator support:  The P3 now properly scales the display when the
four-step attenuator in the K3S is enabled.

* SWR meter blanked:  Both the analog and digital SWR displays are now
blanked whenever the transmit power is too low to give a valid reading.

* Serial #DSM command:  The Display Mode (#DSM) command now controls the
Transmit Monitor's power/SWR meter display as well as enabling and disabling
the waterfall window.  #DSM0 = Spectrum display only, #DSM1 = Spectrum +
waterfall, #DSM2 = Spectrum + meters, #DSM3 = Spectrum + waterfall + meters.

* New #FON command:  The display font can now be selected via a serial
command.  #FON0 = 5 x 7 pixels, #FON1 = 7 x 11 pixels, #FON2 = 9 x 14
pixels.

* New #XCV command:  The transceiver type can now be selected via a serial
command.  #XCV00 = "K3", #XCV01 = User-defined, #XCV03 = 455 kHz IF, etc. 
The command uses  the same number order as in the "Xcvr Sel" menu item.

* Transceiver definition bug fix - Exiting:  When exiting the "Xcvr Def"
menu page, if the user-defined transceiver is already selected, it will
reflect the new values inmmediately, rather than having to re-select it.

* Transceiver definition bug fix - IF Invert:  The USER transceiver that is
defined in the "Xcvr Def" menu item may now specify "Not inverted" IF tuning
even if the "K3" control language is selected.

* SVGA resolution / main waterfall bug fix:  The main waterfall height had
been switching to the default value after changing SVGA resolution.

* VFO B cursor = VFO DATA A bug:  The VFO B cursor had been matching the VFO
A cursor in DATA A mode, even when VFO B was in a different mode.

* Bitmap Upload bug:  Fixes a bug in which the waterfall area was omitted
from a bitmap capture when the TXMON meters were visible.  





P3SVGA 01.34 / 3-21-2016

* Center Frequency in Tracking mode:  Fixed an old bug that caused the VFO A
cursor to reset to center of screen when VFO A was tuned after the user had
adjusted the center frequency offset using the CENTER function in tracking
mode.  

* SVGA Keyboard: 
Added support to allow P3 commands to be embedded in SVGA keyboard  
macros.  
Added support so P3 can execute keyboard macros from front panel

function keys. 
Keyboard / USB thumbdrive can be used when not in data display mode.

Cleaned up the text message sending, and use of the IM character 

Re: [Elecraft] P3 - SVGA USB Serendipitous Solution

[Ken Widelitz]

Hi Paul,

 

My experience with the P3 SVGA is that the Genovation USB keypad will not
work unless data mode is on. 

 

73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - SVGA USB Serendipitous Solution

[Paul Saffren]

Hi Ken,

Yes, the USB keyboard is not active when not in data display mode. I 
realize that folks are using the Genovation  keypad as means of 
executing macros to control the K3 (and soon the P3), however the USB 
keyboard port was designed for data.


-Paul

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - SVGA Save/Restore State via USB Working

[Paul Saffren N6HZ]

Hi Ken, 

I am not familiar with the USB switch but if it is electronic and not
mechanical there could be an issue since the SVGA USB port is limited as to
what it can support.  For example it does not support a hub or really
anything except a USB thumb drive and/or keyboard.  

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - SVGA USB Serendipitous Solution

[Paul Saffren N6HZ]

Hi Ken, 

I don't understand what you mean by 'toggle a USB device'.  The P3/SVGA
board will enumerate a USB keyboard or thumb drive even if the SVGA en is
turned off (the display is turned off) OR data display mode is turned off. 
I just checked.You can verify that by opening up the P3 and looking on
the SVGA card.  Whenever a USB device is correctly enumerated, the LED
toward the connector will light solid. 

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[Elecraft] P3 - SVGA USB Serendipitous Solution

[Ken Widelitz]

It seems that if you toggle a USB device on the P3, it loses its knowledge
of the USB device and doesn't recognize the device when it is toggled back
UNLESS the SVGA is in data display mode. IMHO this is a firmware bug.

 

73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - SVGA Save/Restore State via USB Working

[Dave Cole]

I too am looking forward to the next release of P3 software, and hoping
it contains the changes which allow P3 macros to be sent to the P3, via
the P3 USB port.
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> I have no idea why it didn't work before, but the SVGASET.SAV file
> was saved
> to the USB Thumb Drive about the 10th time I tried. It restored to my
> other
> P3 perfectly and now the USB switch is working also. Maybe I didn't
> have the
> cables plugged in all the way, although the P3 recognized the USB
> devices
> before and the USB switch LED indicators came on before. In any
> event, I am
> a happy camper and will be even happier when P3 commands can be used
> with
> the next firmware release.
> 
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> 
> 73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT
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[Elecraft] P3 - SVGA Save/Restore State via USB Working

[Ken Widelitz]

I have no idea why it didn't work before, but the SVGASET.SAV file was saved
to the USB Thumb Drive about the 10th time I tried. It restored to my other
P3 perfectly and now the USB switch is working also. Maybe I didn't have the
cables plugged in all the way, although the P3 recognized the USB devices
before and the USB switch LED indicators came on before. In any event, I am
a happy camper and will be even happier when P3 commands can be used with
the next firmware release.

 

73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT

 

 

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[Elecraft] P3/SVGA help..

[Zbigniew Tyrlik]

just received used SVGA board. 

Installed following the manual. 

Nothing on external display. 
tried 2 cables, 2 monitors. 

Upgraded firmware on P3  to current 01.54, svga is on 01.25;  all SVGA menu 
options are accessible… but nothing on external display. 

Opened top of P3,  the cable is aligned properly, red LED on SVGA board is 
blinking. 


Totally lost.. 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3/SVGA help..

[Paul Saffren N6HZ]

There are LEDs on the P3 front panel and on the SVGA board, both should be
blinking.  If you plug a keyboard or USB thumbdrive into the SVGA board, you
should see another LED light up on the SVGA board. 

The next thing to try is a parameter reset on the P3.  Do that holding down
the MENU key and then tapping the POWER key.  This will reinitialize any
settings so you may first want to save the P3 configuration using the P3
Utility.  

Next check the revisions of the all the FPGA files located on the SVGA
board.  You mentioned that you upgraded the firmware, but maybe one of these
files could be corrupted (they control the video chip).  Rotate the encoder
to the SVGA sub-menu and then enter it.  Rotate the encoder to select SVGA
FW and select using a push of the encoder.  You should see 1.04 in FPGA 0 to
FPGA 4.  

If none of that works, email me directly at Elecraft.  My email address is
pauls at you know where dot com. 

Kind regards, 

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[Elecraft] P3 SVGA adapter is sold

[Jim Spears]

The subject line says it all.

 

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[Elecraft] P3 SVGA help

[Barry N1EU]

My monitor reports "no signal" from my P3 SVGA.  I've gone into the
menu and enabled SVGA and set the resolution.  Is there anything else
I need to do?

Thanks & 73,
Barry N1EU
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[Elecraft] Elecraft] P3 SVGA Self changing tracking mode

[Richard Schmiedt]

Re the SVGA off center bug. My fix is to put the fixed/tune menu control on a 
function button. Just hit the button after using the center control to reset 
the SVGA back to default. 

Rick
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[Elecraft] P3 SVGA Self changing tracking mode

[Rick WA6NHC]

Hello all,

I'm seeing an issue on the SVGA side of the P3.

In order to utilize the screen space more effectively I often use the 
CENTER control to shift my TX frequency to the left side up the display 
(when the DX is listening up) to show those calling on the right side of 
the display.   [The alternative is to use the SPAN control, but much of 
the screen is under utilized.]


This works great until I QSY or adjust the RX frequency.  At that point 
the SVGA display no longer synchs with the P3 display so this is limited 
to only the SVGA portion.  The shaded areas shift to anywhere on the 
SVGA display (1024x768), sometimes even swapping sides of the display.  
I have to revert to watching the P3 only.


It stays with an incorrect display on the SVGA until I tap the 
fixed/track tune in the menu.  Then it works properly, until the next 
time I slide the display to the side.


I've not seen this mentioned on the list.  Can someone else confirm this 
behavior?  It appears to be a bug.


I've reloaded the entire P3 firmware package, this situation remains.  
The P3 is functioning properly, this is solely an SVGA issue.


Thanks in advance,
Rick wa6nhc
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA Self changing tracking mode

[Rick WA6NHC]

More data points:  I usually use FixMode set to 'static' and FixTrack 
set to 'Fixed tune mode'.  I don't know how that factors in...  It may 
be another cause, but by cycling FixTrack, I can get it to display 
properly AFTER I recenter the display to start over again.


This happens consistently here.  Thanks for checking your station.

Rick nhc


On 10/30/2015 9:03 AM, Rick Prather wrote:

Rick,

I haven’t been able to duplicate what you describe.

73,
Rick
K6LE

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Rick WA6NHC 
> wrote:


Hello all,

I'm seeing an issue on the SVGA side of the P3.

In order to utilize the screen space more effectively I often use
the CENTER control to shift my TX frequency to the left side up
the display (when the DX is listening up) to show those calling on
the right side of the display.   [The alternative is to use the
SPAN control, but much of the screen is under utilized.]

This works great until I QSY or adjust the RX frequency.  At that
point the SVGA display no longer synchs with the P3 display so
this is limited to only the SVGA portion.  The shaded areas shift
to anywhere on the SVGA display (1024x768), sometimes even
swapping sides of the display.  I have to revert to watching the
P3 only.

It stays with an incorrect display on the SVGA until I tap the
fixed/track tune in the menu.  Then it works properly, until the
next time I slide the display to the side.

I've not seen this mentioned on the list.  Can someone else
confirm this behavior?  It appears to be a bug.

I've reloaded the entire P3 firmware package, this situation
remains.  The P3 is functioning properly, this is solely an SVGA
issue.

Thanks in advance,
Rick wa6nhc
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA Self changing tracking mode

[Paul Saffren N6HZ]

Hi Rick, 

This is a known issue and on the P3/SVGA bug list.  Basically what is
happening is that the SVGA does not follow the center frequency adjustment
correctly.   Most folks just use fixed tune mode instead of tracking mode
with a movable center frequency.  

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA Self changing tracking mode

[Rick Prather]

Rick,

I haven’t been able to duplicate what you describe.

73,
Rick
K6LE

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Rick WA6NHC 
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I'm seeing an issue on the SVGA side of the P3.
>
> In order to utilize the screen space more effectively I often use the
> CENTER control to shift my TX frequency to the left side up the display
> (when the DX is listening up) to show those calling on the right side of
> the display.   [The alternative is to use the SPAN control, but much of the
> screen is under utilized.]
>
> This works great until I QSY or adjust the RX frequency.  At that point
> the SVGA display no longer synchs with the P3 display so this is limited to
> only the SVGA portion.  The shaded areas shift to anywhere on the SVGA
> display (1024x768), sometimes even swapping sides of the display.  I have
> to revert to watching the P3 only.
>
> It stays with an incorrect display on the SVGA until I tap the fixed/track
> tune in the menu.  Then it works properly, until the next time I slide the
> display to the side.
>
> I've not seen this mentioned on the list.  Can someone else confirm this
> behavior?  It appears to be a bug.
>
> I've reloaded the entire P3 firmware package, this situation remains.  The
> P3 is functioning properly, this is solely an SVGA issue.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Rick wa6nhc
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA Self changing tracking mode

[Rick WA6NHC]

Thank you Paul, I'll await a fix.

Rick nhc

On 10/30/2015 9:41 AM, Paul Saffren N6HZ wrote:

Hi Rick,

This is a known issue and on the P3/SVGA bug list.  Basically what is
happening is that the SVGA does not follow the center frequency adjustment
correctly.   Most folks just use fixed tune mode instead of tracking mode
with a movable center frequency.

Kind regards,

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[Elecraft] P3/SVGA Firmware 1.54/1.25 now available as general release

[Paul Saffren]

P3/SVGA firmware 1.54/1.25 is now available as a general release. This 
means you can simply use the P3 utility and press the "Copy new files 
from Elecraft" to download the firmware to your computer.
*It's recommended that all customers and particularly those owning an 
SVGA card, download and install the latest P3 Utility (1.15.8.28). **

*
Release notes for 1.54/1.25 :

*MCU 01.54 / 8-14-2015*

* Added new transmit monitor maximum power meter scales of 160W and 1600W.

* When the P3 with transmit monitor is connected to a K3, the P3 goes 
into transmit mode only when commanded by the K3 and not when RF power 
is detected.This prevents false triggering when RF power is present from 
another transmitter using a nearby antenna.


Bug fixes:

* Noise blanker settings are sent immediately to the SVGA upon band changes.

* Noise blanker settings are saved in non-volatile memory when set via 
RS-232 commands.


* Reference level labels are properly rounded.

* The SVGA WfEn "Track main" mode name was changed to "Same as 
main".This mode now initializes properly upon power-up and menu items to 
adjust the SVGA waterfall values are inhibited when in this mode.


* The SVGA waterfall height is limited to avoid interfering with the NB 
icon when adjusted via the main waterfall menu item while in "Same as 
main" mode.


* On the main display, menu labels are prevented from impinging on the 
waterfall area if the transmit monitor meters are enabled, the function 
key labels are enabled, and the waterfall size is set too high.


* Prevents the possibility that FN1 could get re-defined during a 
firmware update.


* Eliminates extraneous text on the display when activating certain menu 
functions when the TX monitor coupler is not present or the SVGA 
waterfall is set to "Same as main".


* When no K3 is present, the transmit monitor uses a higher trigger 
level with the VHF coupler to sense when to go to transmit mode, in 
order to prevent false triggering.


*P3SVGA 01.25 / 08-19-2015*

**

* Added Noise Blanker.

* Developed a faster method of detecting K3 transmit/receive state changes.

* Added data terminal ‘send on space’ to the available data TX modes.

* Added replay of keyboard input using Ctrl-Alt-R.Ctrl-C will clear 
replay buffer.


* Added ‘\r’ to embed a CR in text message. Use ‘\\’ to send a single ‘\’.

* Added ‘\c’ to embed an incrementing serial counter in a text 
message.Clearing/presetting counter may be done in the setup screen 
(Ctrl-Alt-S).


* Text messages sent in data terminal mode now respect the mode setting 
(VOX, CR, ^T).


* Fixed a bug in data terminal mode that was causing the time-out to not 
reset correctly.


* Fixed a bug in data terminal mode that was causing non-existent 
characters to be retrieved and sent.Also fixes a bug of missing characters.


* Fixed a problem that caused some SVGA boards to not initialize 
correctly from P3 commands at boot.


* Added waterfall cursors, these display exactly as they do on the P3 
screen.




73,

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Re: [Elecraft] P3/SVGA Firmware 1.54/1.25 now available as general release

[Paul Saffren N6HZ]

One other feature I forgot to mention regardking 1.54/1.25:   When using the
latest P3 Utility it is now possible to save and restore the P3
configuration.   Using P3 Utility version 1.15.8.28 you'll see another tab
labeled "Configuration."  Clicking on this tab allows you to save or restore
the current P3 settings. 


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - SVGA Monitor Compatibility Suggestions

[Marty]

Thank you for your responses.

I ended up returning the Samsung and got an ASUS.  Issue resolved.  The ASUS 
handles the P3 output in all resolutions with no issues.  I could not adjust 
the screen size with the Samsung, only the centering of the image.

Extra benefit - the ASUS ended up being $50 cheaper and I like the control 
menus a bit better as well.
73,
Marty - K1MTK



On Sep 1, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Marty  wrote:

I just purchased a new Samsung 23.6” LED HD Monitor for my P3.  Unfortunately I 
get the two black bars on each side of the screen when I set the resolution to 
1920 X 1080 (1920 x 1080 alt fills the screen but clips the image on all four 
sides).   I had read somewhere that the black bars indicated that there was a 
compatibility issue with the monitor frequency and the P3 SVGA.   If I change 
the resolution to 1440 x 900 it fills the screen, but clips the data on the 
bottom and the text is too big (I adjusted the text size as small as available).

Can anyone suggest a compatible monitor or brand of monitors?   I like the 
Samsung, but I would prefer a monitor that can utilize the entire screen.
Thanks.

73,
Marty - K1MTK



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - SVGA Monitor Compatibility Suggestions

[Marty]

Hi Gary,
I purchased the ASUS 23” LED,  ModelVX238H, from MicroCenter.  Net price was 
$139.99 after $20 instant rebate and $20 mail-in rebate.  It has both VGA and 
(2) HDMI ports so I can attach to my iMac as well, if I care to use as an 
extra, extended screen.

73,
Marty - K1MTK




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Hi Marty 

Which model Asus did you get? 



73
Gary K9GS



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Date: 09/01/2015 1:27 PM (GMT-06:00) 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 - SVGA Monitor Compatibility Suggestions 

Thank you for your responses.

I ended up returning the Samsung and got an ASUS.  Issue resolved.  The ASUS 
handles the P3 output in all resolutions with no issues.  I could not adjust 
the screen size with the Samsung, only the centering of the image.

Extra benefit - the ASUS ended up being $50 cheaper and I like the control 
menus a bit better as well.
73,
Marty - K1MTK



On Sep 1, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Marty <mtkos...@gmail.com> wrote:

I just purchased a new Samsung 23.6” LED HD Monitor for my P3.  Unfortunately I 
get the two black bars on each side of the screen when I set the resolution to 
1920 X 1080 (1920 x 1080 alt fills the screen but clips the image on all four 
sides).   I had read somewhere that the black bars indicated that there was a 
compatibility issue with the monitor frequency and the P3 SVGA.   If I change 
the resolution to 1440 x 900 it fills the screen, but clips the data on the 
bottom and the text is too big (I adjusted the text size as small as available).

Can anyone suggest a compatible monitor or brand of monitors?   I like the 
Samsung, but I would prefer a monitor that can utilize the entire screen.
Thanks.

73,
Marty - K1MTK



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - SVGA Monitor Compatibility Suggestions

[James Bennett]

I’m another happy ASUS user. I’ve got the VN247, 23” model; VGA and two HDMI 
ports. One HDMI goes to my iMac and the other runs over to a Raspberry Pi micro 
processor. I  like having dual monitors on the Mac, as it allows me the real 
estate to have WSJT-X, JT Bridge, and MacLoggerDX all up and visible at the 
same time. I would imagine this unit would work equally well with the P3 
connected to it, as it is quite modifiable. I vaguely remember paying about 
$135 for it at a local Office Depot.

73, Jim / W6JHB



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> wrote:
> 
> Hi Gary,
> I purchased the ASUS 23” LED,  ModelVX238H, from MicroCenter.  Net price was 
> $139.99 after $20 instant rebate and $20 mail-in rebate.  It has both VGA and 
> (2) HDMI ports so I can attach to my iMac as well, if I care to use as an 
> extra, extended screen.
> 
> 73,
> Marty - K1MTK
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 1, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Gary K9GS <garyk...@wi.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Marty 
> 
> Which model Asus did you get? 
> 
> 
> 
> 73
> Gary K9GS
> 
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Marty <mtkos...@gmail.com> 
> Date: 09/01/2015 1:27 PM (GMT-06:00) 
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 - SVGA Monitor Compatibility Suggestions 
> 
> Thank you for your responses.
> 
> I ended up returning the Samsung and got an ASUS.  Issue resolved.  The ASUS 
> handles the P3 output in all resolutions with no issues.  I could not adjust 
> the screen size with the Samsung, only the centering of the image.
> 
> Extra benefit - the ASUS ended up being $50 cheaper and I like the control 
> menus a bit better as well.
> 73,
> Marty - K1MTK
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 1, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Marty <mtkos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I just purchased a new Samsung 23.6” LED HD Monitor for my P3.  Unfortunately 
> I get the two black bars on each side of the screen when I set the resolution 
> to 1920 X 1080 (1920 x 1080 alt fills the screen but clips the image on all 
> four sides).   I had read somewhere that the black bars indicated that there 
> was a compatibility issue with the monitor frequency and the P3 SVGA.   If I 
> change the resolution to 1440 x 900 it fills the screen, but clips the data 
> on the bottom and the text is too big (I adjusted the text size as small as 
> available).
> 
> Can anyone suggest a compatible monitor or brand of monitors?   I like the 
> Samsung, but I would prefer a monitor that can utilize the entire screen.
> Thanks.
> 
> 73,
> Marty - K1MTK
> 
> 
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[Elecraft] P3 - SVGA Monitor Compatibility Suggestions

[Marty]

I just purchased a new Samsung 23.6” LED HD Monitor for my P3.  Unfortunately I 
get the two black bars on each side of the screen when I set the resolution to 
1920 X 1080 (1920 x 1080 alt fills the screen but clips the image on all four 
sides).   I had read somewhere that the black bars indicated that there was a 
compatibility issue with the monitor frequency and the P3 SVGA.   If I change 
the resolution to 1440 x 900 it fills the screen, but clips the data on the 
bottom and the text is too big (I adjusted the text size as small as available).

Can anyone suggest a compatible monitor or brand of monitors?   I like the 
Samsung, but I would prefer a monitor that can utilize the entire screen.
Thanks.

73,
Marty - K1MTK


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - SVGA Monitor Compatibility Suggestions

[ae4pb]

You should be able to adjust the monitor settings to fully fill the screen. 
It's common and typical to tweak the monitor settings for full screen viewing. 
If the video card were incompatible the image would be unusable and appear 
scrambled or not appear at all. 


-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Marty
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 10:49 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 - SVGA Monitor Compatibility Suggestions

I just purchased a new Samsung 23.6” LED HD Monitor for my P3.  Unfortunately I 
get the two black bars on each side of the screen when I set the resolution to 
1920 X 1080 (1920 x 1080 alt fills the screen but clips the image on all four 
sides).   I had read somewhere that the black bars indicated that there was a 
compatibility issue with the monitor frequency and the P3 SVGA.   If I change 
the resolution to 1440 x 900 it fills the screen, but clips the data on the 
bottom and the text is too big (I adjusted the text size as small as available).

Can anyone suggest a compatible monitor or brand of monitors?   I like the 
Samsung, but I would prefer a monitor that can utilize the entire screen.
Thanks.

73,
Marty - K1MTK


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - SVGA Monitor Compatibility Suggestions

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

I use a AVerMedia C126 Capture card so I can put it in a windows and display it 
on my existing monitors.


  From: Marty <mtkos...@gmail.com>
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 10:49 AM
 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 - SVGA Monitor Compatibility Suggestions
   
I just purchased a new Samsung 23.6” LED HD Monitor for my P3.  Unfortunately I 
get the two black bars on each side of the screen when I set the resolution to 
1920 X 1080 (1920 x 1080 alt fills the screen but clips the image on all four 
sides).  I had read somewhere that the black bars indicated that there was a 
compatibility issue with the monitor frequency and the P3 SVGA.  If I change 
the resolution to 1440 x 900 it fills the screen, but clips the data on the 
bottom and the text is too big (I adjusted the text size as small as available).

Can anyone suggest a compatible monitor or brand of monitors?  I like the 
Samsung, but I would prefer a monitor that can utilize the entire screen.
Thanks.

73,
Marty - K1MTK


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Re: [Elecraft] P3/SVGA Beta 1.54/1.25 now available

[Steve Glickstein]

Thanks, Paul.

I just loaded the new beta to my P3 (no SVGA) and it all seems to be 
working well with K3 s/n 4668 with latest firmware.  I don't have any 
way to check the new transmit monitor trigger level because the K3 is my 
sole HF rig.


73, Steve W4FMD

On 8/19/2015 6:35 PM, Paul Saffren wrote:
This release adds features and fixes some bugs with the P3TXMON 
accessory board.We're trying to get this firmware into general 
release as soon as possible so even if you don't have the P3TXMON, you 
can still help us by loading this new firmware in your P3/SVGA. Please 
email me directly (pauls at you know where dot come) with any 
bugs/issues found.





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Re: [Elecraft] P3/SVGA Beta 1.54/1.25 now available

[Tom]

Hi,
I'm happy to report that all functions seem to be good on the SVGA. 
Averaging now works correctly, noise blanker as well, and the Y axis now 
rounds out at 10 dBm instead of 9.

All functions appear to work from the API as well.
73 Tom
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-Original Message- 
From: Steve Glickstein

Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 11:13 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3/SVGA Beta 1.54/1.25 now available

Thanks, Paul.

I just loaded the new beta to my P3 (no SVGA) and it all seems to be
working well with K3 s/n 4668 with latest firmware.  I don't have any
way to check the new transmit monitor trigger level because the K3 is my
sole HF rig.

73, Steve W4FMD

On 8/19/2015 6:35 PM, Paul Saffren wrote:
This release adds features and fixes some bugs with the P3TXMON accessory 
board.We're trying to get this firmware into general release as soon 
as possible so even if you don't have the P3TXMON, you can still help us 
by loading this new firmware in your P3/SVGA. Please email me directly 
(pauls at you know where dot come) with any bugs/issues found.





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[Elecraft] P3/SVGA Beta 1.54/1.25 now available

[Paul Saffren]

This release adds features and fixes some bugs with the P3TXMON 
accessory board.We're trying to get this firmware into general 
release as soon as possible so even if you don't have the P3TXMON, you 
can still help us by loading this new firmware in your P3/SVGA. Please 
email me directly (pauls at you know where dot come) with any 
bugs/issues found.



Instructions on how to download and install BETA firmware to your 
P3/SVGA can be found at the end of this post, after the release notes.


Release notes for P3 version 1.54 and SVGA 1.25 are:

*MCU 01.54 / 8-14-2015*

* Added new transmit monitor maximum power meter scales of 160W and 1600W.

* When the P3 with transmit monitor is connected to a K3, the P3 goes 
into transmit mode only when commanded by the K3 and not when RF power 
is detected.This prevents false triggering when RF power is present from 
another transmitter using a nearby antenna.


Bug fixes:

* Noise blanker settings are sent immediately to the SVGA upon band changes.

* Noise blanker settings are saved in non-volatile memory when set via 
RS-232 commands.


* Reference level labels are properly rounded.

* The SVGA WfEn Track main mode name was changed to Same as 
main.This mode now initializes properly upon power-up and menu items to 
adjust the SVGA waterfall values are inhibited when in this mode.


* The SVGA waterfall height is limited to avoid interfering with the NB 
icon when adjusted via the main waterfall menu item while in Same as 
main mode.


* On the main display, menu labels are prevented from impinging on the 
waterfall area if the transmit monitor meters are enabled, the function 
key labels are enabled, and the waterfall size is set too high.


* Prevents the possibility that FN1 could get re-defined during a 
firmware update.


* Eliminates extraneous text on the display when activating certain menu 
functions when the TX monitor coupler is not present or the SVGA 
waterfall is set to Same as main.


* When no K3 is present, the transmit monitor uses a higher trigger 
level with the VHF coupler to sense when to go to transmit mode, in 
order to prevent false triggering.


*P3SVGA 01.25 / 08-19-2015 *

**

* Added Noise Blanker.

* Developed a faster method of detecting K3 transmit/receive state changes.

* Added data terminal ‘send on space’ to the available data TX modes.

* Added replay of keyboard input using Ctrl-Alt-R.Ctrl-C will clear 
replay buffer.


* Added ‘\r’ to embed a CR in text message. Use ‘\\’ to send a single ‘\’.

* Added ‘\c’ to embed an incrementing serial counter in a text 
message.Clearing/presetting counter may be done in the setup screen 
(Ctrl-Alt-S).


* Text messages sent in data terminal mode now respect the mode setting 
(VOX, CR, ^T).


* Fixed a bug in data terminal mode that was causing the time-out to not 
reset correctly.


* Fixed a bug in data terminal mode that was causing non-existent 
characters to be retrieved and sent.Also fixes a bug of missing characters.


* Fixed a problem that caused some SVGA boards to not initialize 
correctly from P3 commands at boot.


* Added waterfall cursors, these display exactly as they do on the P3 
screen.


**





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How To Download and Install P3/SVGA BETA Firmware:

NOTE: Beta test firmware may have new issues that we haven't caught 
during field testing.


Follow these steps to load a P3 beta firmware release:

1. Create a new folder for the beta firmware on your Desktop or some 
other easily found location. (Don't use the same folder you use for the 
regular firmware release; you may want to keep those files around in 
case you decide to go back to that revision.)


2. In a web browser, type in this URL:

 ftp://ftp.elecraft.com/P3/firmware/beta

NOTE: On some computers, it may take some time for a directory of the 
beta files to appear.  If you do not see the correct files, press 
'refresh' on your browser to reload the page.


You should see the file: P3-0150_SVGA-0124BETA.zip   If you do not see 
this version of the zip file, press the RELOAD / REFRESH button on your 
browser to update your browser cache.


3. Right-click on the .zip file containing the beta firmware (e.g. 
P3-0150_SVGA-0124BETA.zip). Save the file to your beta folder.


4. Unzip the files into the beta folder.

5. Enter the path to the beta folder in P3 Utility (Local folder for 
firmware files).


6. Make sure you *DO NOT* check the P3 Utility box titled Copy new 
files from Elecraft server.


7. Click on Check versions now. Your P3 must be connected to the 
computer and turned on.


8. Review the release notes (under the Help pull-down menu).

9. Click Send all firmware to P3.

10. Please report any new firmware issues to k3supp...@elecraft.com


73,

Paul

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Re: [Elecraft] P3/SVGA Beta 1.54/1.25 now available

[Paul Saffren]

I accidentally put in the wrong file name in the BETA firmware 
download/install instructions.  The file name you should download is: 
P3-0154_SVGA-0125.ZIP

(it's the only file in the beta ftp directory)

-Paul

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[Elecraft] P3/SVGA Beta 1.50/1.24 now available (P3TXMON)

[Paul Saffren N6HZ]

New BETA firmware for the P3/SVGA is available for download from  HERE
ftp://ftp.elecraft.com/P3/firmware/beta/P3-0150_SVGA-0124BETA.zip  

This release includes support for the new Elecraft P3TXMON accessory board.  
Please refer to the  P3/SVGA Manual Rev E
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740152%20P3%20Owner's%20man%20Rev%20E.pdf  
and the  P3TXmon Installation Guide
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740271%20TX%20Mon%20Option%20Installation%20Rev%20A.pdf
  
for more information. 

Note: if you are upgrading your SVGA to the new 1.24 beta, you do not have
to download the fpga files as they have not changed. 

The release notes for these revisions:

MCU 01.50 / 7-27-2015

* Added support for the transmitter monitor module.  Added a new TXMonMenu
sub-menu with  entries: CW Split (enable split screen for CW mode), Mtr
En (turn on the analog meter display),
MtrScale (set power meter full scale), Mod En (turn on the modulation
envelope display), ModScale (set time/div of modulation display),
SensorCal (RF power calibration, separate for each sensor type)
and TX hang (delay time when the transceiver goes from transmit to
receive). 
* Added an additional middle-sized font selection of 7 x 11 pixels.
* The waterfall parameters for the external display are now different from
the main display. The following new entries have been added to the SVGA
menu sub-menu: SVGA WfEn
 (turns the waterfall on/off or sets it to track the main display), SVGA
WfAv (waterfall averaging on/off), SVGA WfCo (waterfall color map), SVGA
WfHt (waterfall height), and SVGA WfMk (waterfall markers on/off).
* Supports preamplifier number 2 of the KXV3B (which is standard in the
K3S).



P3SVGA 01.24 / 7-27-2015

* Added Noise Blanker. 
* Developed a faster method of detecting K3 transmit/receive state changes.  
* Added data terminal ‘send on space’ to the available data TX modes.  
* Added replay of keyboard input using Ctrl-Alt-R.  Ctrl-C will clear replay
buffer.
* Added ‘\r’ to embed a CR in text message. Use ‘\\’ to send a single ‘\’. 
* Added ‘\c’ to embed an incrementing serial counter in a text message. 
Clearing/presetting counter may be done in the setup screen (Ctrl-Alt-S). 
* Text messages sent in data terminal mode now respect the mode setting
(VOX, CR, ^T). 
* Fixed a bug in data terminal mode that was causing the time-out to not
reset correctly. 
* Fixed a bug in data terminal mode that was causing non-existent characters
to be retrieved and sent.  Also fixes a bug of missing characters. 
* Fixed a problem that caused some SVGA boards to not initialize correctly
from P3 commands at boot. 
* Added waterfall cursors, these display exactly as they do on the P3
screen.


73, 

Paul N6HZ





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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA - Spurious Spike

[Bill]

There was also a problem with the BNC cable feeding the P3. I 
experienced that and merely changed to a mil spec cable. That cured the 
problem. No idea what caused the problem, but that cured it.


Bill W2BLC K-Line
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA - Spurious Spike

[Mike K2MK]

Hi Ted,

Do an archive search for the string:

SVGA ribbon cable

Review the posts and see if they bear any similarity to what you are now
experiencing. I think the gist of the thread was that placement of the
ribbon cable could be the cause of spurious spikes. 

73,
Mike K2MK


Dauer, Edward wrote
 Just installed the SVGA option in the P3 and have an odd spike appearing
 on the screen.  Any help would be appreciated.  Here are the symptoms:
 
 The spike appears at 11.8 KHz above the VFO A frequency, and stays at that
 distance as VFO A is tuned - that is, it moves as VFO A moves.  It appears
 on 10, 15, 20, and 40 meters (haven¹t tried others).  The apparent
 amplitude is over S9.
 
 But there is no signal there - tuning across the spike¹s frequency with
 the SubRX produces nothing audible in the K3.
 
 The spike disappears when SVGA EN is set to OFF.
 
 The spook appears although there is no SVGA monitor connected, and no
 computer connected to anything, so it¹s not from some other box.  Seems to
 be residing in the P3.  Did not occur before the SVGA option was
 installed.
 
 Firmware in both the K3 and the P3 and its SVGA are current as of
 yesterday - but the anomaly appeared both before and after the updates,
 and before and after the synths were changed.
 
 Any ideas or suggestions?  Thanks!
 
 Ted, KN1CBR





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[Elecraft] P3 SVGA - Spurious Spike

[Dauer, Edward]

Just installed the SVGA option in the P3 and have an odd spike appearing
on the screen.  Any help would be appreciated.  Here are the symptoms:

The spike appears at 11.8 KHz above the VFO A frequency, and stays at that
distance as VFO A is tuned - that is, it moves as VFO A moves.  It appears
on 10, 15, 20, and 40 meters (haven¹t tried others).  The apparent
amplitude is over S9.

But there is no signal there - tuning across the spike¹s frequency with
the SubRX produces nothing audible in the K3.

The spike disappears when SVGA EN is set to OFF.

The spook appears although there is no SVGA monitor connected, and no
computer connected to anything, so it¹s not from some other box.  Seems to
be residing in the P3.  Did not occur before the SVGA option was installed.

Firmware in both the K3 and the P3 and its SVGA are current as of
yesterday - but the anomaly appeared both before and after the updates,
and before and after the synths were changed.

Any ideas or suggestions?  Thanks!

Ted, KN1CBR

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[Elecraft] P3 (+SVGA) freeze update

[Carl Clawson]

One observation:

I too have found the newest firmware to be much better. But I had it freeze
once and it didn't seem like it was ever coming back. I didn't time it but
it must have been stuck for at least 10 or 15 seconds. I tapped my foot
switch to briefly flick the K3 in and out of transmit, and it started
updating right away.

HTH -- Carl
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 (+SVGA) freeze update

[mike]

I have been 'fighting' P3 freezes for a long time. Mostly mine have seemed to
be RFI related. I recently implemented most of Jim Brown's RFI prevention
suggestions, bonding, ferrite chokes, interconnected earth grounds, pin-1
problems, etc. and they have made a big difference. The freezing is not
easily reproduced, so it is hard to troubleshoot. It is really a pain when
it occurs in a contest. The new FW works much better, but I still get the
occasional freeze.  73  ..mike  AI6II



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 (+SVGA) freeze update

[Mike K2MK]

Hi Carl,

I too am still experiencing occasional freezes. Typically 1 to 2 seconds in
length. I'm going to guess that the improvement is on the order of 95%. I
think the problem was described as the way in which the K3 tells the P3 that
it is coming out of transmit. You would think that if the firmware fixed
this communication issue that it would have been a 100% fix unless there was
a second reason for freezing.

73,
Mike K2MK


Carl Clawson-3 wrote
 One observation:
 
 I too have found the newest firmware to be much better. But I had it
 freeze
 once and it didn't seem like it was ever coming back. I didn't time it but
 it must have been stuck for at least 10 or 15 seconds. I tapped my foot
 switch to briefly flick the K3 in and out of transmit, and it started
 updating right away.
 
 HTH -- Carl





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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA in Split

[Mike K2MK]

Hi Tighe,

I was able to repeatedly duplicate what you described. I think you found a
bug.

First, we should get the nomenclature correct. You don't mean VFO A Marker
you mean VFO A Cursor. And the problem only occurs in Tracking mode. And
the problem is not just caused by pressing the Spot button. If you gently
twist the VFO A dial the center frequency on the top of the SVGA screen
changes and the VFO A cursor jumps to the center of the screen on the
external monitor. The P3 display remains as it was.

In addition to toggling FixTrack you can also clear it by a very slight turn
of the P3 knob if the center frequency shift function is still active. A
slight turn will make the VFO A cursor jump back to where it was set at the
side of the screen.

Others may not have noticed it because the whole idea of having the VFO A
cursor not in the center of the screen really cries out for Fixed Tune mode
rather Tracking mode. 

73,
Mike K2MK


Tighe Kuykendall wrote
 Just noticed something odd with the latest P3 SVGA code (1.35/1.22).
 
 Am split on 80m.  Held the P3 button for Center and rotated the knob 
 so VFO A was closer to the left side of the screen then tapped the 
 button again.  All was fine until I tapped Spot on the K3.  Then the VFO 
 A marker on the SVGA moved to the center frequency, not the VFO A freq. 
   The P3 is still displaying correctly.  Toggling FixTrack got it back 
 in sync, but it's repeatable.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA in Split

[Alan]

I confirmed the error.  It's on the bug list, thanks.

Alan N1AL



On 02/08/2015 07:26 AM, Mike K2MK wrote:

Hi Tighe,

I was able to repeatedly duplicate what you described. I think you found a
bug.

First, we should get the nomenclature correct. You don't mean VFO A Marker
you mean VFO A Cursor. And the problem only occurs in Tracking mode. And
the problem is not just caused by pressing the Spot button. If you gently
twist the VFO A dial the center frequency on the top of the SVGA screen
changes and the VFO A cursor jumps to the center of the screen on the
external monitor. The P3 display remains as it was.

In addition to toggling FixTrack you can also clear it by a very slight turn
of the P3 knob if the center frequency shift function is still active. A
slight turn will make the VFO A cursor jump back to where it was set at the
side of the screen.

Others may not have noticed it because the whole idea of having the VFO A
cursor not in the center of the screen really cries out for Fixed Tune mode
rather Tracking mode.

73,
Mike K2MK


Tighe Kuykendall wrote

Just noticed something odd with the latest P3 SVGA code (1.35/1.22).

Am split on 80m.  Held the P3 button for Center and rotated the knob
so VFO A was closer to the left side of the screen then tapped the
button again.  All was fine until I tapped Spot on the K3.  Then the VFO
A marker on the SVGA moved to the center frequency, not the VFO A freq.
   The P3 is still displaying correctly.  Toggling FixTrack got it back
in sync, but it's repeatable.

Tighe
NK4I





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[Elecraft] P3 SVGA in Split

[Tighe Kuykendall]

Just noticed something odd with the latest P3 SVGA code (1.35/1.22).

Am split on 80m.  Held the P3 button for Center and rotated the knob 
so VFO A was closer to the left side of the screen then tapped the 
button again.  All was fine until I tapped Spot on the K3.  Then the VFO 
A marker on the SVGA moved to the center frequency, not the VFO A freq. 
 The P3 is still displaying correctly.  Toggling FixTrack got it back 
in sync, but it's repeatable.


Tighe
NK4I

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[Elecraft] P3 SVGA

[Keith Ennis via Elecraft]

 I still have a SVGA board for sale.  Only used about 5 hours.Sold the P3 
without it.  P3SVGA P3 Video/FFT adapter
 
$230.00 PLUS $5.00 shipping to lower 48 States  Keith, KV5J, XE3/K5ENS
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA WaterFall Marker Issue

[Paul Saffren N6HZ]

Hi Tighe, 

Thank you for detailed steps for reproducing the problem.  I was able to
find the bug quickly and fix it for the next beta/release. 

73, 

Paul




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[Elecraft] P3 SVGA WaterFall Marker Issue

[Tighe Kuykendall]

Just loaded the latest P3 Beta to get WaterFall Markers.  Thanks for the 
feature.


But...  I noticed a curious behavior.  Using the button on my P3 which 
is programmed for WfallMkrs I noticed it's not controlling the SVGA 
marker as it does the P3 display marker.


If I start with VFO A Marker off and Waterfall Marker off.  Turn on VFO 
A marker then tap the button for the Waterfall Marker.  P3 behaves 
normally.  The SVGA does not display the Waterfall Marker.  If I tap the 
MKR A button on the P3 to turn it off, then tap it again to turn the VFO 
marker back on, both the P3 and SVGA display the Waterfall Marker.  If I 
then tap the button I have programmed for WfallMkrs the P3 turns off as 
expected but the SVGA continues showing the marker.  Two taps of the MKR 
A button to turn off and then back on gets the displays in sync again.


Tighe
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA WaterFall Marker Issue

[Tighe Kuykendall]

Two more observations.

If I turn the Waterfall Marker on and have it displaying on both P3 and 
SVGA then tap the assigned button to turn the Waterfall Mark off, it 
stops displaying on the P3 but on the SVGA where the marker is 
displaying the marker stays with the VFO frequency.  If I turn the P3 
knob to move the VFO A marker the waterfall line stays centered on the 
VFO Frequency and with a knob tap to QSY the marker line remains with 
the VFO A frequency.


The MKR A frequency display in the upper left corner of the SVGA display 
disappears after a knob tap to QSY.  The marker frequency continues to 
be displayed on the P3 display.  Don't recall if it was that way before 
the upgrade.


Tighe
NK4I



On 1/17/15 6:09 PM, Tighe Kuykendall wrote:

Just loaded the latest P3 Beta to get WaterFall Markers.  Thanks for the
feature.

But...  I noticed a curious behavior.  Using the button on my P3 which
is programmed for WfallMkrs I noticed it's not controlling the SVGA
marker as it does the P3 display marker.

If I start with VFO A Marker off and Waterfall Marker off.  Turn on VFO
A marker then tap the button for the Waterfall Marker.  P3 behaves
normally.  The SVGA does not display the Waterfall Marker.  If I tap the
MKR A button on the P3 to turn it off, then tap it again to turn the VFO
marker back on, both the P3 and SVGA display the Waterfall Marker.  If I
then tap the button I have programmed for WfallMkrs the P3 turns off as
expected but the SVGA continues showing the marker.  Two taps of the MKR
A button to turn off and then back on gets the displays in sync again.




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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA

[Tighe Kuykendall]

Bump on this.  Just checked and p3s0116 is still the most recent release 
for the P3 SVGA.


Tighe
NK4I


On 6/2/14 1:56 PM, Sam Morgan wrote:

SVGA Latest Production Release (MCU 1.16)  February 27, 2013

any chance of the beta's being released to the masses?
I know p3s0119 already addresses the waterfall markers.

referenced to:

On 5/30/2014 8:26 PM, Tighe Kuykendall wrote:
 Looked in the manuals and on my P3 but can't find this.  Is there an
 equivalent feature on the P3 SVGA option to get a marker line extending
 down into the waterfall?

 Tighe
 NK4I

and

On 5/31/2014 11:49 AM, XE3/K5ENS via Elecraft wrote:
 Any advancements on getting the NB on SVGA card?

 Keith



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[Elecraft] P3 SVGA external monitor freezes - RFI?

[mike]

When using KPA500 my external monitor (and the P3 display) often freezes,
sometimes up to 5 seconds, after I transmit. With the external display
disabled, the P3 does not freeze (and incidentally it refreshes much faster
without the ext monitor enabled.) I also notice a slight flickering of the
monitor screen while transmitting. I take this to be a RFI problem. I have
added four snap on ferrite beads on each end of the VGA cable. The monitor
is as far away from the amp and feedlines as I can get it and all equipment
K3, P3, KPA500, KAT500 are bonded to a ground bus. This is not unique to
this monitor as it happened with a different smaller monitor I used before.

This has always been a problem, and I would like to eliminate it as it is
very disruptive to is usefulness in finding a clear spot to break through a
pileup. Not sure what else to do. Has anyone else had this issue? 

 ..mike  AI6II



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