[Elecraft] Re: Spam filters WAS We are not talking about a small amount of money
On 7/9/07, Thom LaCosta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This mailing list's spam filter has blocked 3 attempts by me to reply to this thread. I think spam filters are more likely to be blame for the lack of communication being complained of than any failings at Elecraft. How do you know that? Did you get a message saying it was blocked? Was there a reason? Yes, I did get a bounce message back to say that my reply looked like spam. Why a legitimate reply-to from a registered list member should be considered spam I have no idea, but I've complained before about the brain-dead QTH.NET system and got nowhere, so let's not go there. Most spam filters just silently drop the email, so the first a vendor knows about it is when an irate customer complains they didn't get what they ordered. -- Julian, G4ILO G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? www.Ham-Directory.com: the best ham resources on the net ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: Spam filters WAS We are not talking about a small amount of money
On Mon, 9 Jul 2007, Julian G4ILO wrote: How do you know that? Did you get a message saying it was blocked? Was there a reason? Yes, I did get a bounce message back to say that my reply looked like spam. Why a legitimate reply-to from a registered list member should be considered spam I have no idea, but I've complained before about the brain-dead QTH.NET system and got nowhere, so let's not go there. Ah...I suppose the brain-dead anti-spam system at QTH.NET didn't identify itself? I recently added so anti-spam protection to my server, plus giving the users the ability to add more spam protection...and it explains why someone gets their mail blocked. So far, I haven't gotten any emails asking me to unblock any IP or address. Most spam filters just silently drop the email, so the first a vendor knows about it is when an irate customer complains they didn't get what they ordered. Yep...that's why I have my system st to explain why the mail is bouncedthe bad news is that with so much spam...the notification messages may go to unreal addresses...and of course they get bounced. Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer k3hrn www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: Spam filters WAS We are not talking about a small amount of money
The spam filtering is applied at our Elecraft list host, qth.net, and is not under our control. It is absolutely needed. Without it we have had literally hundreds of spammers 'subscribe' to the list and attempt to post. We still see the attempts here daily. In general, if you get a bounce message, please forward it to me and I'll ask qth.net about it. 73, Eric Julian G4ILO wrote: On 7/9/07, Thom LaCosta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This mailing list's spam filter has blocked 3 attempts by me to reply to this thread. I think spam filters are more likely to be blame for the lack of communication being complained of than any failings at Elecraft. How do you know that? Did you get a message saying it was blocked? Was there a reason? Yes, I did get a bounce message back to say that my reply looked like spam. Why a legitimate reply-to from a registered list member should be considered spam I have no idea, but I've complained before about the brain-dead QTH.NET system and got nowhere, so let's not go there. Most spam filters just silently drop the email, so the first a vendor knows about it is when an irate customer complains they didn't get what they ordered. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: Spam filters WAS We are not talking about a small amount of money
Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: The spam filtering is applied at our Elecraft list host, qth.net, and is not under our control. It is absolutely needed. Without it we have had literally hundreds of spammers 'subscribe' to the list and attempt to post. We still see the attempts here daily. In general, if you get a bounce message, please forward it to me and I'll ask qth.net about it. 73, Eric “Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.” -Benjamin Franklin --- _____ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ John L. Sielke ( W )( 2 )( A )( G )( N ) http://w2agn.net \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ http://www.blurty.com/users/w2agn check out: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/QRPariahs/ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: Spam filters WAS We are not talking about a small amount of money
On Mon, 9 Jul 2007, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: The spam filtering is applied at our Elecraft list host, qth.net, and is not under our control. It is absolutely needed. Without it we have had literally hundreds of spammers 'subscribe' to the list and attempt to post. We still see the attempts here daily. Wowthey don't have a subscribe option that requires confirmation? That eliminates a lot of spammersbut then again, some one has to read the messages for the sign ups that fail. Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer k3hrn www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: Spam filters WAS We are not talking about a small amount of money
On Jul 9, 2007, at 9:12 AM, Thom LaCosta wrote: On Mon, 9 Jul 2007, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: The spam filtering is applied at our Elecraft list host, qth.net, and is not under our control. It is absolutely needed. Without it we have had literally hundreds of spammers 'subscribe' to the list and attempt to post. We still see the attempts here daily. Wowthey don't have a subscribe option that requires confirmation? That eliminates a lot of spammersbut then again, some one has to read the messages for the sign ups that fail. The listserver at qth.net is Mailman, which does require confirmation. Bob, N7XY ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: Spam filters WAS We are not talking about a small amount of money
On Mon, 9 Jul 2007, Bob Nielsen wrote: On Jul 9, 2007, at 9:12 AM, Thom LaCosta wrote: On Mon, 9 Jul 2007, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: The spam filtering is applied at our Elecraft list host, qth.net, and is not under our control. It is absolutely needed. Without it we have had literally hundreds of spammers 'subscribe' to the list and attempt to post. We still see the attempts here daily. Wowthey don't have a subscribe option that requires confirmation? That eliminates a lot of spammersbut then again, some one has to read the messages for the sign ups that fail. The listserver at qth.net is Mailman, which does require confirmation. Well, I guess I'm dumb as a post, or as lucky as a man with all day long pass in a cat house, since it's hard to imagine how the spammers that visit me can't subscribe to my lists since they can't confirm thier requests to join, since they don't use real email addresses. These folks that subscribe to the QTH.NET lists gotta be bold as brass to use their own email addresses in order to get the confirmation messages. This is so intriguing I may have to sign up on a list again and watch real close to see how I can spam a list. Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer k3hrn www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
