Re: [Elecraft] Serial cdable (USB) won't connect with K3 directly...
All at 38,4. But nice try. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill On Aug 16, 2014, at 1:29 AM, Alan n...@sonic.net wrote: Perhaps the P3 and K3 are set to different baud rates? Alan N1AL On 08/15/2014 08:26 PM, Bill Conkling wrote: I was getting together items to take out for an event on Saturday and spent hours trying to sort out what was happening with my USB cables. My K3 would not see the serial port. As a last resort, I plugged the cable into the P3 and everything worked! Why does it work through the P3, but not direct? .bill nr4c (confused) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@sonic.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Serial cdable (USB) won't connect with K3 directly...
I was getting together items to take out for an event on Saturday and spent hours trying to sort out what was happening with my USB cables. My K3 would not see the serial port. As a last resort, I plugged the cable into the P3 and everything worked! Why does it work through the P3, but not direct? .bill nr4c (confused) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Serial cdable (USB) won't connect with K3 directly...
Perhaps the P3 and K3 are set to different baud rates? Alan N1AL On 08/15/2014 08:26 PM, Bill Conkling wrote: I was getting together items to take out for an event on Saturday and spent hours trying to sort out what was happening with my USB cables. My K3 would not see the serial port. As a last resort, I plugged the cable into the P3 and everything worked! Why does it work through the P3, but not direct? .bill nr4c (confused) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@sonic.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] serial to USB
I have zero serial ports on the computer in my shack. I use Elecrafts Serial/USB converter for one connection, Another FTDI unit I bought on Amazon for the other and piggy back my SteppIR controller with a Y cable to the main rig/computer interface. I have no issues at all. I'm quite happy with the way they work. I've used a lot of Serial to USB converters since serial ports started disappearing and these FTDI ones seem to work just fine. Message: 23 Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:38:39 -0800 (PST) From: KM4VX ronce...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and K2 simultaneous on serial to USB cables tocomputer To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: 1328971119147-7276097.p...@n2.nabble.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Many thanks for the helpful suggestions on and off-line. Given all the problems with Serial to USB adapters I am going to install serial PCI cards in my PC and then connect the correctly wired cable from the K2 (I understand it is not a true RS232 port on the K2) to a new serial port on the PC. I may do the same with my K3 rather than use the Elecradft Serial to USB cable, which actually works well. 73. Ron Libby and John www.TheRollingHome.com Ft Clark Springs, Brackettville, TX No trees were harmed in the sending of this e-mail; however, many electrons were inconvenienced __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] serial to USB
It really begs the question for some us who do not understand or are not computer geeks: what IS the difference between FTDI and Prolific. We understand each one behaving (responding) differently with software to radio control, and that some don't work at all, I do not understand what makes one preferred over the other (such as elecraft serial/usb adaptor cable) Prolific also works with most stuff too. For example, are they platform related? (micr0$oft) Is this akin to ordinary DVD player as opposed to a blue ray player that can play both?? 72 Ron, wb1hga __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] serial to USB
The biggest problem I've seen lately is there were counterfeit Prolific chips found and the latest drivers from Prolific disable the counterfeit chips (for good reasons). They both work OK if you have the proper drivers. On Sat, 11 Feb 2012, roncasa wrote: It really begs the question for some us who do not understand or are not computer geeks: what IS the difference between FTDI and Prolific. We understand each one behaving (responding) differently with software to radio control, and that some don't work at all, I do not understand what makes one preferred over the other (such as elecraft serial/usb adaptor cable) Prolific also works with most stuff too. For example, are they platform related? (micr0$oft) Is this akin to ordinary DVD player as opposed to a blue ray player that can play both?? -- Hisashi T Fujinaka - ht...@twofifty.com BSEE(6/86) + BSChem(3/95) + BAEnglish(8/95) + MSCS(8/03) + $2.50 = latte __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] serial to USB
what IS the difference between FTDI and Prolific. They are two different manufacturers of USB to Serial hardware ICs (chips). http://www.ftdichip.com/ http://www.prolific.com.tw/eng/company.asp Besides the hardware, each manufacturer supplies royalty free software (device drivers) as part of the solution for PC operating systems such as Mac, Windows and Linux. At work I have long used FTDI chips in products we design. A customized version of the signed driver package supplied by FTDI for 32 and 64 bit Windows is incorporated into our own software distribution. Prolific is generally ok but lately they have been warning about counterfeit parts and USB to Serial Cables: http://www.prolific.com.tw/eng/downloads.asp?id=31 Bob NW8L __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] serial to USB
Bob, Thanks for the heads up. Must be one of the reasons for bunches of issues with the adapters. This is also the reason I don't mind spending more for a product that I know is genuine. 73, Bill K9YEQ -Original Message- what IS the difference between FTDI and Prolific. They are two different manufacturers of USB to Serial hardware ICs (chips). http://www.ftdichip.com/ http://www.prolific.com.tw/eng/company.asp Besides the hardware, each manufacturer supplies royalty free software (device drivers) as part of the solution for PC operating systems such as Mac, Windows and Linux. At work I have long used FTDI chips in products we design. A customized version of the signed driver package supplied by FTDI for 32 and 64 bit Windows is incorporated into our own software distribution. Prolific is generally ok but lately they have been warning about counterfeit parts and USB to Serial Cables: http://www.prolific.com.tw/eng/downloads.asp?id=31 Bob NW8L __ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] serial to USB
All, I feel I should add to the discussion the fact that these consumer quality USB to Serial adapters typically do not like to work at lower baud rates - the K2 uses 4800 baud. So an adapter that works at the K3 rate of 19.2k may have trouble when attempting to drive a K2. The commercial quality USB to Serial converters (note that they are called converters instead of adapters) may not suffer from the same problems, my Edgeport/4 converter works well with the K2 even with the high polling rates of Ham Radio Deluxe. Of course these commercial quality converters are more expensive than the $10 to $40 consumer quality adapters. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/11/2012 4:14 PM, Bob Cunnings wrote: what IS the difference between FTDI and Prolific. They are two different manufacturers of USB to Serial hardware ICs (chips). http://www.ftdichip.com/ http://www.prolific.com.tw/eng/company.asp Besides the hardware, each manufacturer supplies royalty free software (device drivers) as part of the solution for PC operating systems such as Mac, Windows and Linux. At work I have long used FTDI chips in products we design. A customized version of the signed driver package supplied by FTDI for 32 and 64 bit Windows is incorporated into our own software distribution. Prolific is generally ok but lately they have been warning about counterfeit parts and USB to Serial Cables: http://www.prolific.com.tw/eng/downloads.asp?id=31 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] serial to USB
Don, Which brand are you using? I am looking for a four port. 73, Bill K9YEQ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:08 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] serial to USB All, I feel I should add to the discussion the fact that these consumer quality USB to Serial adapters typically do not like to work at lower baud rates - the K2 uses 4800 baud. So an adapter that works at the K3 rate of 19.2k may have trouble when attempting to drive a K2. The commercial quality USB to Serial converters (note that they are called converters instead of adapters) may not suffer from the same problems, my Edgeport/4 converter works well with the K2 even with the high polling rates of Ham Radio Deluxe. Of course these commercial quality converters are more expensive than the $10 to $40 consumer quality adapters. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/11/2012 4:14 PM, Bob Cunnings wrote: what IS the difference between FTDI and Prolific. They are two different manufacturers of USB to Serial hardware ICs (chips). http://www.ftdichip.com/ http://www.prolific.com.tw/eng/company.asp Besides the hardware, each manufacturer supplies royalty free software (device drivers) as part of the solution for PC operating systems such as Mac, Windows and Linux. At work I have long used FTDI chips in products we design. A customized version of the signed driver package supplied by FTDI for 32 and 64 bit Windows is incorporated into our own software distribution. Prolific is generally ok but lately they have been warning about counterfeit parts and USB to Serial Cables: http://www.prolific.com.tw/eng/downloads.asp?id=31 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] serial to USB
Don, Thanks! I found a digi on Amazon for $ 216. There was a reconditioned unit by Saitek, but I believe that is Chinese and I am no so certain it isn't a knock off. I will check out eBay. 73, Bill K9YEQ -Original Message- From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:d...@w3fpr.com] Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:41 PM To: Bill K9YEQ Subject: Re: [Elecraft] serial to USB Bill, I bought mine some time ago (when they were cheap) on Ebay - I have the Edgeport/4 (4 port) by Inside Out - that company was sold to Digi International, and the Digi drivers work with the Edgeport - see if you can find one being sold on Ebay for a decent price. The drivers for the /2, /4, /8 and /16 are the same. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/11/2012 5:34 PM, Bill K9YEQ wrote: Don, Which brand are you using? I am looking for a four port. 73, Bill K9YEQ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:08 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] serial to USB All, I feel I should add to the discussion the fact that these consumer quality USB to Serial adapters typically do not like to work at lower baud rates - the K2 uses 4800 baud. So an adapter that works at the K3 rate of 19.2k may have trouble when attempting to drive a K2. The commercial quality USB to Serial converters (note that they are called converters instead of adapters) may not suffer from the same problems, my Edgeport/4 converter works well with the K2 even with the high polling rates of Ham Radio Deluxe. Of course these commercial quality converters are more expensive than the $10 to $40 consumer quality adapters. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/11/2012 4:14 PM, Bob Cunnings wrote: what IS the difference between FTDI and Prolific. They are two different manufacturers of USB to Serial hardware ICs (chips). http://www.ftdichip.com/ http://www.prolific.com.tw/eng/company.asp Besides the hardware, each manufacturer supplies royalty free software (device drivers) as part of the solution for PC operating systems such as Mac, Windows and Linux. At work I have long used FTDI chips in products we design. A customized version of the signed driver package supplied by FTDI for 32 and 64 bit Windows is incorporated into our own software distribution. Prolific is generally ok but lately they have been warning about counterfeit parts and USB to Serial Cables: http://www.prolific.com.tw/eng/downloads.asp?id=31 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] serial to USB
I refined the search and found the items you are referring to. Thanks a ton! 73, Bill K9YEQ -Original Message- From: Ron W3ZV [mailto:w...@verizon.net] Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 5:00 PM To: Bill K9YEQ Subject: Re: [Elecraft] serial to USB I paid $35 on eBay. 4 port. It worked fine. Keep looking. Ron W3ZV On Feb 11, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Bill K9YEQ wrote: Don, Thanks! I found a digi on Amazon for $ 216. There was a reconditioned unit by Saitek, but I believe that is Chinese and I am no so certain it isn't a knock off. I will check out eBay. 73, Bill K9YEQ -Original Message- From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:d...@w3fpr.com] Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:41 PM To: Bill K9YEQ Subject: Re: [Elecraft] serial to USB Bill, I bought mine some time ago (when they were cheap) on Ebay - I have the Edgeport/4 (4 port) by Inside Out - that company was sold to Digi International, and the Digi drivers work with the Edgeport - see if you can find one being sold on Ebay for a decent price. The drivers for the /2, /4, /8 and /16 are the same. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/11/2012 5:34 PM, Bill K9YEQ wrote: Don, Which brand are you using? I am looking for a four port. 73, Bill K9YEQ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:08 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] serial to USB All, I feel I should add to the discussion the fact that these consumer quality USB to Serial adapters typically do not like to work at lower baud rates - the K2 uses 4800 baud. So an adapter that works at the K3 rate of 19.2k may have trouble when attempting to drive a K2. The commercial quality USB to Serial converters (note that they are called converters instead of adapters) may not suffer from the same problems, my Edgeport/4 converter works well with the K2 even with the high polling rates of Ham Radio Deluxe. Of course these commercial quality converters are more expensive than the $10 to $40 consumer quality adapters. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/11/2012 4:14 PM, Bob Cunnings wrote: what IS the difference between FTDI and Prolific. They are two different manufacturers of USB to Serial hardware ICs (chips). http://www.ftdichip.com/ http://www.prolific.com.tw/eng/company.asp Besides the hardware, each manufacturer supplies royalty free software (device drivers) as part of the solution for PC operating systems such as Mac, Windows and Linux. At work I have long used FTDI chips in products we design. A customized version of the signed driver package supplied by FTDI for 32 and 64 bit Windows is incorporated into our own software distribution. Prolific is generally ok but lately they have been warning about counterfeit parts and USB to Serial Cables: http://www.prolific.com.tw/eng/downloads.asp?id=31 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] serial to USB
Ron, RS-232 serial interface has been defined for at least 25 years and its functions are well known and stable so the radio software and hardware producers can design to these specifications. The converters are designed to emulate the portion of these functions that the designers feel are needed, but do not conform to any IEEE standard so that other manufacturers can depend on their function. RS-232 is coded and decoded by hardware, so it is stable. USB converters are coded by some software and some hardware and are decoded by the RS-232 receiver. The software portion is somewhat different for the different operating systems. It takes a while after a new operating system is implemented for the converter writers to get it right. FTDI and Prolific are two companies who write software and sell chips for USB converters. Lots of people buy chips from these two companies and mold them into connector/cable assemblies and then retail them under various brands. It is not real easy to find out which chips have been used and often the end brand does not identify the chip used. Both of them work OK with most printers, scanners and other serial connected computer stuff, but it can be a different story with ham radio stuff where sometimes more is demanded and RS-232 compliance is usually assumed. FTDI seems to do a better job than Prolific, but you have to try the software/hardware combination before you know. I had a lot of trouble when I bought a Win7 computer a couple of years ago and endured some real rude comments from the computer crowd when trying to figure out the combination. I bought a RS-232 card for my computer and have not had trouble since. I suspect that the problems with USB converters has been worked out in the two years so that things work better now. My USB converter that I bought with my K3 in 2007 worked well with the Elecraft software, but not with my loggers. I understand that the older converters were Prolific and that Elecraft now supplies FTDI, or at least something that will work. The cards work well with desk top computers, but are not so easy with lap tops that have only USB. The computer world is trying to get away from RS-232 in favor of USB, but the ham radio community does not want to throw away perfectly good hardware every four or five years like the computer world is geared to do. Also, ham radio operators expect to know how everything works, computer people not so much. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart From: roncasa ronc...@verizon.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] serial to USB It really begs the question for some us who do not understand or are not computer geeks: what IS the difference between FTDI and Prolific. We understand each one behaving (responding) differently with software to radio control, and that some don't work at all, I do not understand what makes one preferred over the other (such as elecraft serial/usb adaptor cable) Prolific also works with most stuff too. For example, are they platform related? (micr0$oft) Is this akin to ordinary DVD player as opposed to a blue ray player that can play both?? 72 Ron, wb1hga __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] serial to USB
Willis, I would add the fact that the consumer quality USB to Serial adapters do not fully implement the RS-232 standard voltages for drivers swinging between +25 volts and -25 volts, and receivers that will accept a voltage of +3.5 volts or greater as a mark and those of -3.5 volts or less as a space. In addition, the slew rate may not be great enough to allow good conversion to real RS-232 levels. BTW - this situation is nothing new - when the IBM PC was introduced, the serial port did not drive the negative level below -5 volts - that fact alone reduced the distance the IBM PC could drive RS-232 serial lines. The lack of adherence to standards (voltage levels, timings, etc.) has created a bunch of devices that work, but while not to standards, do work in certain common instances - such is the fallout from consumer oriented USB to Serial adapters. As I have mentioned, there are commercial versions that do it right, but they are quite pricy compared to the consumer variety that will work most of the time. There is a price to be paid for reliability and consistency. Make your choices and take whatever licks result from them. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/11/2012 6:25 PM, WILLIS COOKE wrote: Ron, RS-232 serial interface has been defined for at least 25 years and its functions are well known and stable so the radio software and hardware producers can design to these specifications. The converters are designed to emulate the portion of these functions that the designers feel are needed, but do not conform to any IEEE standard so that other manufacturers can depend on their function. RS-232 is coded and decoded by hardware, so it is stable. USB converters are coded by some software and some hardware and are decoded by the RS-232 receiver. The software portion is somewhat different for the different operating systems. It takes a while after a new operating system is implemented for the converter writers to get it right. FTDI and Prolific are two companies who write software and sell chips for USB converters. Lots of people buy chips from these two companies and mold them into connector/cable assemblies and then retail them under various brands. It is not real easy to find out which chips have been used and often the end brand does not identify the chip used. Both of them work OK with most printers, scanners and other serial connected computer stuff, but it can be a different story with ham radio stuff where sometimes more is demanded and RS-232 compliance is usually assumed. FTDI seems to do a better job than Prolific, but you have to try the software/hardware combination before you know. I had a lot of trouble when I bought a Win7 computer a couple of years ago and endured some real rude comments from the computer crowd when trying to figure out the combination. I bought a RS-232 card for my computer and have not had trouble since. I suspect that the problems with USB converters has been worked out in the two years so that things work better now. My USB converter that I bought with my K3 in 2007 worked well with the Elecraft software, but not with my loggers. I understand that the older converters were Prolific and that Elecraft now supplies FTDI, or at least something that will work. The cards work well with desk top computers, but are not so easy with lap tops that have only USB. The computer world is trying to get away from RS-232 in favor of USB, but the ham radio community does not want to throw away perfectly good hardware every four or five years like the computer world is geared to do. Also, ham radio operators expect to know how everything works, computer people not so much. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart From: roncasaronc...@verizon.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] serial to USB It really begs the question for some us who do not understand or are not computer geeks: what IS the difference between FTDI and Prolific. We understand each one behaving (responding) differently with software to radio control, and that some don't work at all, I do not understand what makes one preferred over the other (such as elecraft serial/usb adaptor cable) Prolific also works with most stuff too. For example, are they platform related? (micr0$oft) Is this akin to ordinary DVD player as opposed to a blue ray player that can play both?? 72 Ron, wb1hga __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft
Re: [Elecraft] serial to USB
On 2/11/2012 3:43 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: There is a price to be paid for reliability and consistency. Make your choices and take whatever licks result from them. Good, Fast, Cheap. Pick any two. First Law of Engineering 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Serial to USB convertor and K3/N1MM
Anyone have any luck running N1MM directly on a laptop with no serial connector and a USB to serial convertor? Primarily for cw? Thanks Jay __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Serial to USB driver for Vista
The Prolific web site asks the following for Vista users NOTE: Prolific will not be providing Vista drivers for end-users. Please contact the vendor of your cable for Vista driver availability and support. Prolific recommends to purchase from following Cable Makers that provides Vista driver and tech support: (1) ATEN UC232A USB to Serial (2) I-O Data USB to RS232C (3) Belkin USB to Serial (4) Elecom USB to RS232C Which of these should I download the disk gives no indication and I dumped the packaging Which one did you supply George Marr ZL1TUJ K3 #1452 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Serial to USB driver for Vista
I got Vista drivers for the Prolific chipset from Microsoft Update when I first plugged the KUSB into my laptop. This is mentioned in K3 Utility Help under USB to Serial Adapter Troubleshooting: Microsoft Windows Vista users can obtain an acceptable device driver from Microsoft's Windows Update service when the KUSB is first plugged in. Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Marr Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 3:04 AM To: Elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] Serial to USB driver for Vista The Prolific web site asks the following for Vista users NOTE: Prolific will not be providing Vista drivers for end-users. Please contact the vendor of your cable for Vista driver availability and support. Prolific recommends to purchase from following Cable Makers that provides Vista driver and tech support: (1) ATEN UC232A USB to Serial (2) I-O Data USB to RS232C (3) Belkin USB to Serial (4) Elecom USB to RS232C Which of these should I download the disk gives no indication and I dumped the packaging Which one did you supply George Marr ZL1TUJ K3 #1452 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Serial to USB adapters
There have been a lot of posts on this - look for USB in the archives. However, what works well? KUSB from Elecfrat and Keyspan, of all the adapters on the market, Keyspan seem to be the most reliable. On why didn't they - lots on that too, but for one thing, USB is licensed (adding cost) and you have to pick a particular chip set. Foe another, a lot of Hams don't have USB and its harder/more expensive to go serial to USB. On 20/1/08 14:49, DW Holtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: Hello, Since most newer computers (at least laptops), do not have a serial port just USB ports. What type of serial to USB adapters work well? I'm waiting for a K3 and want to be sure everything I need will be on hand when it arrives. Ordered on 27 Dec 07, so I have lots of time. My TR-7 will have to do for now, but it is really a nice rig in my opinion. Why didn't they install a USB connector? Would it make too much noise and be hard to shield? Still looking for a good power supply. Decided to go with a linear supply, not a switcher. Best, DW Holtman WB7SSN -- Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure, find that they very rarely lose or fail. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Serial to USB adapters
DW Holtman wrote: Hello, Since most newer computers (at least laptops), do not have a serial port just USB ports. What type of serial to USB adapters work well? I'm waiting for a K3 and want to be sure everything I need will be on hand when it arrives. Ordered on 27 Dec 07, so I have lots of time. Yeah, USB will probably be obsolete too by the time yours arrives. g Seriously, the KUSB would seem to be the safe option, though I note that has the same chipset as the one I had problems communicating with my K2 with under Linux, and even Elecraft advises that you update to the latest drivers. I got mine cheap on eBay. I think the main reason for not including USB in a radio is that Elecraft would then have to write drivers for every OS anyone would want to use. By keeping the USB interface separate and making RS-232 the standard, they avoid that responsibility. Also, some people still use DOS logging software that doesn't support USB. A better choice than USB would be ethernet, but the hardware needed to support that in the K3 would probably add more to the cost of the K3 and be more RF noisy. - Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Serial-to-USB-adapters-tp14982525p14982836.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Serial to USB adapters
Hi DW, I have the KDSP USB cable that Elecraft sells for use with the K3, and it works well. Like you, I have nothing with a serial port. 73! Ken Kopp [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Serial to USB adapters
I have a problem with Elecraft KUSB adapter. It just do not work here. My PC is IBM ThinkPad A21M and I informed my problem. Maybe the question is the PC. Advice was to get a new driver program or try with another PC. I tried the new driver, no help. Sorry, I do not have plenty of PCs around. I was lucky to have still RS232 connector, and straight wire worked. Benny oh9nb ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
