Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
I use macros on pf1 and pf2 to do this. Also on KPOD. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jun 3, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave New, N8SBE wrote: > > Yes, but can you have a dynamic mic plugged into one and an electret mic > plugged in the other? > > The K3/K3S has never supported this, and to this day, annoys the heck > out of me, since I have a Heil HC-4 headset (which is dynamic and > plugged in the rear connector) and an Elecraft hand mic (which is > Electret). > > I have to go digging through the menus to turn the bias on/off every > time I want to switch mics. On the plus side, mic HI/LOW gain is > separate for front/rear connectors, but NOT the bias setting. > > Hopefully, this has been fixed for the K4. Separate TX equalizer curves > should be also be supported, as well, along with mic gain, compression, > etc. > > 73, > > -- Dave, N8SBE > > ---- Original Message > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Handedness > From: Wayne Burdick > Date: Sun, June 02, 2019 11:47 am > To: Nr4c > Cc: Elecraft Reflector , w7aqk > > Yes. You can have phones and mics plugged in both front/rear at the same > time. > > Wayne > > > port this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
Dave, It does remember the settings on a per jack basis - at least mine does. You just change the MIC SEL menu from front to rear when switching. The gain and bias settings should remain the same. Some hams don't like to explicitly enter the menu, but prefer to assign it to a PF key. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/3/2019 4:38 PM, Dave New, N8SBE wrote: Shouldn't need to tie up a PF for this feature. The K3 should be able to remember the setting on a per jack basis. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
Shouldn't need to tie up a PF for this feature. The K3 should be able to remember the setting on a per jack basis. 73, -- Dave, N8SBE Original Message Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Handedness From: Bob McGraw K4TAX Date: Mon, June 03, 2019 3:51 pm To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net I use PF1 to switch between front mike input, no bias, and rear mike input with bias. 73 Bob, K4TAX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
I use PF1 to switch between front mike input, no bias, and rear mike input with bias. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 6/3/2019 1:53 PM, Rick WA6NHC wrote: On 6/3/2019 11:32 AM, Dave New, N8SBE wrote: Yes, but can you have a dynamic mic plugged into one and an electret mic plugged in the other? Yes! Or at least enough to accomplish what you're seeking. I have the Yamaha CM500 (required bias on) plugged in the rear and the Kenwood (MC-60, no bias) desk mic plugged into the front. I simply switch to the mic desired in the menu, which could also be done via macro. The K3 remembers which needs bias or not, once set. The K3/K3S has never supported this, and to this day, annoys the heck out of me, since I have a Heil HC-4 headset (which is dynamic and plugged in the rear connector) and an Elecraft hand mic (which is Electret). I have to go digging through the menus to turn the bias on/off every time I want to switch mics. On the plus side, mic HI/LOW gain is separate for front/rear connectors, but NOT the bias setting. Hopefully, this has been fixed for the K4. Separate TX equalizer curves should be also be supported, as well, along with mic gain, compression, etc. 73, -- Rick NHC Dave, N8SBE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
There actually should be NO difference between the K3 and K3S in this regard …. Grant NQ5T K3 #2091 KX3 #8342 > On Jun 3, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Dave New, N8SBE wrote: > > My mistake, then. I moved recently from a K3 to a K3S, and must have > missed this change in the manual. > > I'll check that out. > > Thanks for the info, and sorry to have come across so strong on the > list. > > 73, > > -- Dave, N8SBE > > ---- Original Message > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Handedness > From: Michael Blake > Date: Mon, June 03, 2019 2:45 pm > To: "Dave New, N8SBE" > > The K3s does support independent selection of the Bias on/off for the > front and rear mics. I have an electret headset plugged into the rear > and an EV dynamic plugged into the front. The bias selection remembers > the on/off option selected for each mic jack. > Mike - k9JRI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
My mistake, then. I moved recently from a K3 to a K3S, and must have missed this change in the manual. I'll check that out. Thanks for the info, and sorry to have come across so strong on the list. 73, -- Dave, N8SBE Original Message Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Handedness From: Michael Blake Date: Mon, June 03, 2019 2:45 pm To: "Dave New, N8SBE" The K3s does support independent selection of the Bias on/off for the front and rear mics. I have an electret headset plugged into the rear and an EV dynamic plugged into the front. The bias selection remembers the on/off option selected for each mic jack. Mike - k9JRI On Jun 3, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave New, N8SBE wrote: Yes, but can you have a dynamic mic plugged into one and an electret mic plugged in the other? The K3/K3S has never supported this, and to this day, annoys the heck out of me, since I have a Heil HC-4 headset (which is dynamic and plugged in the rear connector) and an Elecraft hand mic (which is Electret). I have to go digging through the menus to turn the bias on/off every time I want to switch mics. On the plus side, mic HI/LOW gain is separate for front/rear connectors, but NOT the bias setting. Hopefully, this has been fixed for the K4. Separate TX equalizer curves should be also be supported, as well, along with mic gain, compression, etc. 73, -- Dave, N8SBE Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Handedness From: Wayne Burdick Date: Sun, June 02, 2019 11:47 am To: Nr4c Cc: Elecraft Reflector , w7aqk Yes. You can have phones and mics plugged in both front/rear at the same time. Wayne port this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
On 6/3/2019 11:32 AM, Dave New, N8SBE wrote: Yes, but can you have a dynamic mic plugged into one and an electret mic plugged in the other? Yes! Or at least enough to accomplish what you're seeking. I have the Yamaha CM500 (required bias on) plugged in the rear and the Kenwood (MC-60, no bias) desk mic plugged into the front. I simply switch to the mic desired in the menu, which could also be done via macro. The K3 remembers which needs bias or not, once set. The K3/K3S has never supported this, and to this day, annoys the heck out of me, since I have a Heil HC-4 headset (which is dynamic and plugged in the rear connector) and an Elecraft hand mic (which is Electret). I have to go digging through the menus to turn the bias on/off every time I want to switch mics. On the plus side, mic HI/LOW gain is separate for front/rear connectors, but NOT the bias setting. Hopefully, this has been fixed for the K4. Separate TX equalizer curves should be also be supported, as well, along with mic gain, compression, etc. 73, -- Rick NHC Dave, N8SBE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
Yes, but can you have a dynamic mic plugged into one and an electret mic plugged in the other? The K3/K3S has never supported this, and to this day, annoys the heck out of me, since I have a Heil HC-4 headset (which is dynamic and plugged in the rear connector) and an Elecraft hand mic (which is Electret). I have to go digging through the menus to turn the bias on/off every time I want to switch mics. On the plus side, mic HI/LOW gain is separate for front/rear connectors, but NOT the bias setting. Hopefully, this has been fixed for the K4. Separate TX equalizer curves should be also be supported, as well, along with mic gain, compression, etc. 73, -- Dave, N8SBE Original Message Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Handedness From: Wayne Burdick Date: Sun, June 02, 2019 11:47 am To: Nr4c Cc: Elecraft Reflector , w7aqk Yes. You can have phones and mics plugged in both front/rear at the same time. Wayne port this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
Hi Drew, You'll be able to connect a keyboard (wired or wireless) directly to any of the K4's USB-A jacks for direct control, or in conjunction with the rig's built-in data modes. 73, Wayne N6KR > On Jun 2, 2019, at 10:25 AM, Drew AF2Z wrote: > > I hope we may be able to operate the K4 by keyboard without need of a PC & > software. > > 73, > Drew > AF2Z > > > > On 06/02/19 13:00, K8TE wrote: >> GM Bill, >> K3_EZ, Win4K3, and I believe N4PY's software allows adjustment of a variety >> of the K3's parameters from your PC. Of course, using macros is another >> means by which you can change K3 parameters. While not the favorite means >> for many, I find using my PC and appropriate programs often a great way to >> operate my K3's (plural). >> That isn't to say I don't use the front panel controls. I just don't use >> most very often. A friend purchased and then sold a K3 in spite of my >> encouragement. While being an Elecraft fan boy as a friend at the Prescott >> Hamfest described me this weekend, I find the K3 front panel and menu system >> "elegant" and the K4's even more elegant. I can't wait to operate the >> latter when it arrives in NM! Maybe Wayne or Eric will have mine in Plano >> next weekend (hint, hint)? >> Not everyone is as enthusiastic about the K3 as I. While I am amazed they >> are not, I still call many of them my friends. They're just the "other" >> friends who don't own and use Elecraft gear. Of course, one old friend who >> owns an IC-7610 enjoys my bring the KPA1500 to his shack for contesting >> weekends. Linked together, that combination is a perfect demonstration of >> the value in using effective station integration. I use his normal station >> as an example of why station integration is a requirement (in my mind) in a >> contest at 2:00 a.m. >> 73 from Yavapai Campground in the Prescott National Forrest, Bill, K8TE >> P.S. at 73 and somewhat arthritic, after two weeks of RV travel to and from >> HamVention, activating counties and parks along the way, I was directed to >> leave the HF at home for this long weekend. I need to setup my home station >> to operate remotely to avoid HF withdrawal. However, looking at the WX >> reports (thunderstorms), I am glad everything electronic is disconnected >> from the outside world at the K8TE Command Post. >>> I?m 76 years old with moderate loss of feeling in fingertips and a >>> lot of arthritis so adjusting the gains on my K3S is difficult. Maybe >>> there will be a "slider" on my K4 panel. >> -- >> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
I hope we may be able to operate the K4 by keyboard without need of a PC & software. 73, Drew AF2Z On 06/02/19 13:00, K8TE wrote: GM Bill, K3_EZ, Win4K3, and I believe N4PY's software allows adjustment of a variety of the K3's parameters from your PC. Of course, using macros is another means by which you can change K3 parameters. While not the favorite means for many, I find using my PC and appropriate programs often a great way to operate my K3's (plural). That isn't to say I don't use the front panel controls. I just don't use most very often. A friend purchased and then sold a K3 in spite of my encouragement. While being an Elecraft fan boy as a friend at the Prescott Hamfest described me this weekend, I find the K3 front panel and menu system "elegant" and the K4's even more elegant. I can't wait to operate the latter when it arrives in NM! Maybe Wayne or Eric will have mine in Plano next weekend (hint, hint)? Not everyone is as enthusiastic about the K3 as I. While I am amazed they are not, I still call many of them my friends. They're just the "other" friends who don't own and use Elecraft gear. Of course, one old friend who owns an IC-7610 enjoys my bring the KPA1500 to his shack for contesting weekends. Linked together, that combination is a perfect demonstration of the value in using effective station integration. I use his normal station as an example of why station integration is a requirement (in my mind) in a contest at 2:00 a.m. 73 from Yavapai Campground in the Prescott National Forrest, Bill, K8TE P.S. at 73 and somewhat arthritic, after two weeks of RV travel to and from HamVention, activating counties and parks along the way, I was directed to leave the HF at home for this long weekend. I need to setup my home station to operate remotely to avoid HF withdrawal. However, looking at the WX reports (thunderstorms), I am glad everything electronic is disconnected from the outside world at the K8TE Command Post. I?m 76 years old with moderate loss of feeling in fingertips and a lot of arthritis so adjusting the gains on my K3S is difficult. Maybe there will be a "slider" on my K4 panel. -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
GM Bill, K3_EZ, Win4K3, and I believe N4PY's software allows adjustment of a variety of the K3's parameters from your PC. Of course, using macros is another means by which you can change K3 parameters. While not the favorite means for many, I find using my PC and appropriate programs often a great way to operate my K3's (plural). That isn't to say I don't use the front panel controls. I just don't use most very often. A friend purchased and then sold a K3 in spite of my encouragement. While being an Elecraft fan boy as a friend at the Prescott Hamfest described me this weekend, I find the K3 front panel and menu system "elegant" and the K4's even more elegant. I can't wait to operate the latter when it arrives in NM! Maybe Wayne or Eric will have mine in Plano next weekend (hint, hint)? Not everyone is as enthusiastic about the K3 as I. While I am amazed they are not, I still call many of them my friends. They're just the "other" friends who don't own and use Elecraft gear. Of course, one old friend who owns an IC-7610 enjoys my bring the KPA1500 to his shack for contesting weekends. Linked together, that combination is a perfect demonstration of the value in using effective station integration. I use his normal station as an example of why station integration is a requirement (in my mind) in a contest at 2:00 a.m. 73 from Yavapai Campground in the Prescott National Forrest, Bill, K8TE P.S. at 73 and somewhat arthritic, after two weeks of RV travel to and from HamVention, activating counties and parks along the way, I was directed to leave the HF at home for this long weekend. I need to setup my home station to operate remotely to avoid HF withdrawal. However, looking at the WX reports (thunderstorms), I am glad everything electronic is disconnected from the outside world at the K8TE Command Post. > I?m 76 years old with moderate loss of feeling in fingertips and a > lot of arthritis so adjusting the gains on my K3S is difficult. Maybe > there will be a "slider" on my K4 panel. -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
So for my home station, my PR77d still plugs into the front and my phones in the back, just like my K3S/K3 now. Sure wish the second phone and 8-pin Foster plug were on rear. And USB beside the Power button. Oh, well. Still want it. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jun 2, 2019, at 11:47 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > Yes. You can have phones and mics plugged in both front/rear at the same time. > > Wayne > > >> On Jun 1, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Nr4c wrote: >> >> Yes. But will it support two phones and two mics? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ...nr4c. bill >> >> >>> On Jun 1, 2019, at 2:01 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >>> >>> The K4 has rear panel mic, speaker, and USB-A jacks for those who don't >>> want anything plugged in at the front. >>> >>> Wayne >>> N6KR >>> >>> On Jun 1, 2019, at 10:54 AM, David Bunte wrote: Bill - I'll turn 76 this month, and have significant peripheral neuropathy, so I can understand what you are concerned about... but it has never been an issue with me and my K3 because I have NEVER connected ANYTHING to the phone or mic jacks on the front of the radio. I have used the rear jacks ever since I got my radio in 2011. That way the headset cables are routed under my operating desk and are thus never in the way of my keyboard, or my hands as I do operate the radio with my left (non-dominate) hand. Using the rear jacks rather than the front ones may be a zero to very low-cost solution to those connectors being in the way. Best of luck. Dave - K9FN > On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 11:59 AM Nr4c wrote: > > My thoughts on gandedness: > > My complaint about most Radio’s is placement of phone and mic jacks on > front panels adjacent to control knobs. The RF and AUDIO gain controls are > still right next to the mic and phone along with a potential YSB cable. > > Put these connectors near “push” button controls. Or on the back panel. > > > I’m 76 years old with moderate loss of feeling in fingertips and a lot of > arthritis so adjusting the gains on my K3S is difficult. Maybe there will > be a “slider” on my K4 panel. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On Jun 1, 2019, at 11:37 AM, w7aqk wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> Hmmm! Even if it were true (that the K4 favored right handers), that > wouldn't be a disadvantage to me, and I am very left handed!! I've almost > always favored setting up my radios on my right side, and operating the > controls with my right hand. My left hand is then free to either write, > send on my paddle, or whatever! Now, I do have the ability to do certain > things right handed, but not the kind of things that require great > precision. I even play golf right handed, and bat right handed in > baseball, but that is more a matter of how I was taught and the equipment > available. >> >> I've often thought I should learn to send CW right handed, but never > have done it. I can run an adding machine right handed, but again that > was > almost forced on me by the design. In short, I don't know why people want > to rely so heavily on their dominant hand. It really is inconvenient to > do > so. Controlling a radio with your "opposite" hand can't be that difficult > a task, and the benefits of doing so are many. You want your dominate > hand > to be free and available for the kinds of tasks that really require the > most dexterity. Spinning a dial isn't one of them >> >> Dave W7AQK >> >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >> > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/e
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Yes. You can have phones and mics plugged in both front/rear at the same time. Wayne > On Jun 1, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Nr4c wrote: > > Yes. But will it support two phones and two mics? > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On Jun 1, 2019, at 2:01 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >> >> The K4 has rear panel mic, speaker, and USB-A jacks for those who don't want >> anything plugged in at the front. >> >> Wayne >> N6KR >> >> >>> On Jun 1, 2019, at 10:54 AM, David Bunte wrote: >>> >>> Bill - >>> >>> I'll turn 76 this month, and have significant peripheral neuropathy, so I >>> can understand what you are concerned about... but it has never been an >>> issue with me and my K3 because I have NEVER connected ANYTHING to the >>> phone or mic jacks on the front of the radio. I have used the rear jacks >>> ever since I got my radio in 2011. That way the headset cables are routed >>> under my operating desk and are thus never in the way of my keyboard, or my >>> hands as I do operate the radio with my left (non-dominate) hand. >>> >>> Using the rear jacks rather than the front ones may be a zero to very >>> low-cost solution to those connectors being in the way. >>> >>> Best of luck. >>> >>> Dave - K9FN >>> On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 11:59 AM Nr4c wrote: My thoughts on gandedness: My complaint about most Radio’s is placement of phone and mic jacks on front panels adjacent to control knobs. The RF and AUDIO gain controls are still right next to the mic and phone along with a potential YSB cable. Put these connectors near “push” button controls. Or on the back panel. I’m 76 years old with moderate loss of feeling in fingertips and a lot of arthritis so adjusting the gains on my K3S is difficult. Maybe there will be a “slider” on my K4 panel. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jun 1, 2019, at 11:37 AM, w7aqk wrote: > > Hi All, > > Hmmm! Even if it were true (that the K4 favored right handers), that wouldn't be a disadvantage to me, and I am very left handed!! I've almost always favored setting up my radios on my right side, and operating the controls with my right hand. My left hand is then free to either write, send on my paddle, or whatever! Now, I do have the ability to do certain things right handed, but not the kind of things that require great precision. I even play golf right handed, and bat right handed in baseball, but that is more a matter of how I was taught and the equipment available. > > I've often thought I should learn to send CW right handed, but never have done it. I can run an adding machine right handed, but again that was almost forced on me by the design. In short, I don't know why people want to rely so heavily on their dominant hand. It really is inconvenient to do so. Controlling a radio with your "opposite" hand can't be that difficult a task, and the benefits of doing so are many. You want your dominate hand to be free and available for the kinds of tasks that really require the most dexterity. Spinning a dial isn't one of them > > Dave W7AQK > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> __ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
Yes. But will it support two phones and two mics? Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jun 1, 2019, at 2:01 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > The K4 has rear panel mic, speaker, and USB-A jacks for those who don't want > anything plugged in at the front. > > Wayne > N6KR > > >> On Jun 1, 2019, at 10:54 AM, David Bunte wrote: >> >> Bill - >> >> I'll turn 76 this month, and have significant peripheral neuropathy, so I >> can understand what you are concerned about... but it has never been an >> issue with me and my K3 because I have NEVER connected ANYTHING to the >> phone or mic jacks on the front of the radio. I have used the rear jacks >> ever since I got my radio in 2011. That way the headset cables are routed >> under my operating desk and are thus never in the way of my keyboard, or my >> hands as I do operate the radio with my left (non-dominate) hand. >> >> Using the rear jacks rather than the front ones may be a zero to very >> low-cost solution to those connectors being in the way. >> >> Best of luck. >> >> Dave - K9FN >> >>> On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 11:59 AM Nr4c wrote: >>> >>> My thoughts on gandedness: >>> >>> My complaint about most Radio’s is placement of phone and mic jacks on >>> front panels adjacent to control knobs. The RF and AUDIO gain controls are >>> still right next to the mic and phone along with a potential YSB cable. >>> >>> Put these connectors near “push” button controls. Or on the back panel. >>> >>> >>> I’m 76 years old with moderate loss of feeling in fingertips and a lot of >>> arthritis so adjusting the gains on my K3S is difficult. Maybe there will >>> be a “slider” on my K4 panel. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> ...nr4c. bill >>> >>> On Jun 1, 2019, at 11:37 AM, w7aqk wrote: Hi All, Hmmm! Even if it were true (that the K4 favored right handers), that >>> wouldn't be a disadvantage to me, and I am very left handed!! I've almost >>> always favored setting up my radios on my right side, and operating the >>> controls with my right hand. My left hand is then free to either write, >>> send on my paddle, or whatever! Now, I do have the ability to do certain >>> things right handed, but not the kind of things that require great >>> precision. I even play golf right handed, and bat right handed in >>> baseball, but that is more a matter of how I was taught and the equipment >>> available. I've often thought I should learn to send CW right handed, but never >>> have done it. I can run an adding machine right handed, but again that was >>> almost forced on me by the design. In short, I don't know why people want >>> to rely so heavily on their dominant hand. It really is inconvenient to do >>> so. Controlling a radio with your "opposite" hand can't be that difficult >>> a task, and the benefits of doing so are many. You want your dominate hand >>> to be free and available for the kinds of tasks that really require the >>> most dexterity. Spinning a dial isn't one of them Dave W7AQK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >>> __ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
The K4 has rear panel mic, speaker, and USB-A jacks for those who don't want anything plugged in at the front. Wayne N6KR > On Jun 1, 2019, at 10:54 AM, David Bunte wrote: > > Bill - > > I'll turn 76 this month, and have significant peripheral neuropathy, so I > can understand what you are concerned about... but it has never been an > issue with me and my K3 because I have NEVER connected ANYTHING to the > phone or mic jacks on the front of the radio. I have used the rear jacks > ever since I got my radio in 2011. That way the headset cables are routed > under my operating desk and are thus never in the way of my keyboard, or my > hands as I do operate the radio with my left (non-dominate) hand. > > Using the rear jacks rather than the front ones may be a zero to very > low-cost solution to those connectors being in the way. > > Best of luck. > > Dave - K9FN > > On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 11:59 AM Nr4c wrote: > >> My thoughts on gandedness: >> >> My complaint about most Radio’s is placement of phone and mic jacks on >> front panels adjacent to control knobs. The RF and AUDIO gain controls are >> still right next to the mic and phone along with a potential YSB cable. >> >> Put these connectors near “push” button controls. Or on the back panel. >> >> >> I’m 76 years old with moderate loss of feeling in fingertips and a lot of >> arthritis so adjusting the gains on my K3S is difficult. Maybe there will >> be a “slider” on my K4 panel. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ...nr4c. bill >> >> >>> On Jun 1, 2019, at 11:37 AM, w7aqk wrote: >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Hmmm! Even if it were true (that the K4 favored right handers), that >> wouldn't be a disadvantage to me, and I am very left handed!! I've almost >> always favored setting up my radios on my right side, and operating the >> controls with my right hand. My left hand is then free to either write, >> send on my paddle, or whatever! Now, I do have the ability to do certain >> things right handed, but not the kind of things that require great >> precision. I even play golf right handed, and bat right handed in >> baseball, but that is more a matter of how I was taught and the equipment >> available. >>> >>> I've often thought I should learn to send CW right handed, but never >> have done it. I can run an adding machine right handed, but again that was >> almost forced on me by the design. In short, I don't know why people want >> to rely so heavily on their dominant hand. It really is inconvenient to do >> so. Controlling a radio with your "opposite" hand can't be that difficult >> a task, and the benefits of doing so are many. You want your dominate hand >> to be free and available for the kinds of tasks that really require the >> most dexterity. Spinning a dial isn't one of them >>> >>> Dave W7AQK >>> >>> >>> __ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
Bill - I'll turn 76 this month, and have significant peripheral neuropathy, so I can understand what you are concerned about... but it has never been an issue with me and my K3 because I have NEVER connected ANYTHING to the phone or mic jacks on the front of the radio. I have used the rear jacks ever since I got my radio in 2011. That way the headset cables are routed under my operating desk and are thus never in the way of my keyboard, or my hands as I do operate the radio with my left (non-dominate) hand. Using the rear jacks rather than the front ones may be a zero to very low-cost solution to those connectors being in the way. Best of luck. Dave - K9FN On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 11:59 AM Nr4c wrote: > My thoughts on gandedness: > > My complaint about most Radio’s is placement of phone and mic jacks on > front panels adjacent to control knobs. The RF and AUDIO gain controls are > still right next to the mic and phone along with a potential YSB cable. > > Put these connectors near “push” button controls. Or on the back panel. > > > I’m 76 years old with moderate loss of feeling in fingertips and a lot of > arthritis so adjusting the gains on my K3S is difficult. Maybe there will > be a “slider” on my K4 panel. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > > > On Jun 1, 2019, at 11:37 AM, w7aqk wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > Hmmm! Even if it were true (that the K4 favored right handers), that > wouldn't be a disadvantage to me, and I am very left handed!! I've almost > always favored setting up my radios on my right side, and operating the > controls with my right hand. My left hand is then free to either write, > send on my paddle, or whatever! Now, I do have the ability to do certain > things right handed, but not the kind of things that require great > precision. I even play golf right handed, and bat right handed in > baseball, but that is more a matter of how I was taught and the equipment > available. > > > > I've often thought I should learn to send CW right handed, but never > have done it. I can run an adding machine right handed, but again that was > almost forced on me by the design. In short, I don't know why people want > to rely so heavily on their dominant hand. It really is inconvenient to do > so. Controlling a radio with your "opposite" hand can't be that difficult > a task, and the benefits of doing so are many. You want your dominate hand > to be free and available for the kinds of tasks that really require the > most dexterity. Spinning a dial isn't one of them > > > > Dave W7AQK > > > > > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
With ergonomics & my 68 years, I prefer commonly utilized "objects" be closer to the table top level. I rarely use the offset but do often use the VFO B when in a pileup and I want to move away from someone who just started calling on my calling frequency. For me, with the K4, I would much rather see the offset knob be exchanged with the now higher, VFO B as it will require me to lift my arm & wrist where if it were at the bottom, I could maintain the same ergonomic position. In a contest or long day at the radio, extra motions become uncomfortable over time. Maybe it's possible for the two knobs to be optionally switched in the configuration options? 20 years ago it wouldn't have mattered to me either way. After an immortal youth with Karate, motocross accidents & sports injuries, time eventually does have its way with us. 73, Gary KA1J > My thoughts on gandedness: > > My complaint about most Radio´s is placement of phone and mic jacks > on front panels adjacent to control knobs. The RF and AUDIO gain > controls are still right next to the mic and phone along with a > potential YSB cable. > > Put these connectors near "push" button controls. Or on the back > panel. > > > I´m 76 years old with moderate loss of feeling in fingertips and a > lot of arthritis so adjusting the gains on my K3S is difficult. Maybe > there will be a "slider" on my K4 panel. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > > > On Jun 1, 2019, at 11:37 AM, w7aqk wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > Hmmm! Even if it were true (that the K4 favored right handers), > > that wouldn't be a disadvantage to me, and I am very left handed!! > > I've almost always favored setting up my radios on my right side, > > and operating the controls with my right hand. My left hand is then > > free to either write, send on my paddle, or whatever! Now, I do > > have the ability to do certain things right handed, but not the kind > > of things that require great precision. I even play golf right > > handed, and bat right handed in baseball, but that is more a matter > > of how I was taught and the equipment available. > > > > I've often thought I should learn to send CW right handed, but never > > have done it. I can run an adding machine right handed, but again > > that was almost forced on me by the design. In short, I don't know > > why people want to rely so heavily on their dominant hand. It > > really is inconvenient to do so. Controlling a radio with your > > "opposite" hand can't be that difficult a task, and the benefits of > > doing so are many. You want your dominate hand to be free and > > available for the kinds of tasks that really require the most > > dexterity. Spinning a dial isn't one of them > > > > Dave W7AQK > > > > > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
My thoughts on gandedness: My complaint about most Radio’s is placement of phone and mic jacks on front panels adjacent to control knobs. The RF and AUDIO gain controls are still right next to the mic and phone along with a potential YSB cable. Put these connectors near “push” button controls. Or on the back panel. I’m 76 years old with moderate loss of feeling in fingertips and a lot of arthritis so adjusting the gains on my K3S is difficult. Maybe there will be a “slider” on my K4 panel. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jun 1, 2019, at 11:37 AM, w7aqk wrote: > > Hi All, > > Hmmm! Even if it were true (that the K4 favored right handers), that > wouldn't be a disadvantage to me, and I am very left handed!! I've almost > always favored setting up my radios on my right side, and operating the > controls with my right hand. My left hand is then free to either write, send > on my paddle, or whatever! Now, I do have the ability to do certain things > right handed, but not the kind of things that require great precision. I > even play golf right handed, and bat right handed in baseball, but that is > more a matter of how I was taught and the equipment available. > > I've often thought I should learn to send CW right handed, but never have > done it. I can run an adding machine right handed, but again that was almost > forced on me by the design. In short, I don't know why people want to rely > so heavily on their dominant hand. It really is inconvenient to do so. > Controlling a radio with your "opposite" hand can't be that difficult a task, > and the benefits of doing so are many. You want your dominate hand to be > free and available for the kinds of tasks that really require the most > dexterity. Spinning a dial isn't one of them > > Dave W7AQK > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
Hi All, Hmmm! Even if it were true (that the K4 favored right handers), that wouldn't be a disadvantage to me, and I am very left handed!! I've almost always favored setting up my radios on my right side, and operating the controls with my right hand. My left hand is then free to either write, send on my paddle, or whatever! Now, I do have the ability to do certain things right handed, but not the kind of things that require great precision. I even play golf right handed, and bat right handed in baseball, but that is more a matter of how I was taught and the equipment available. I've often thought I should learn to send CW right handed, but never have done it. I can run an adding machine right handed, but again that was almost forced on me by the design. In short, I don't know why people want to rely so heavily on their dominant hand. It really is inconvenient to do so. Controlling a radio with your "opposite" hand can't be that difficult a task, and the benefits of doing so are many. You want your dominate hand to be free and available for the kinds of tasks that really require the most dexterity. Spinning a dial isn't one of them Dave W7AQK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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OK. I realize this is tongue in cheek, but... We can move the feet to the top, flip the display in its mounting, and flip all the buttons. All that is left is to change the labels on the panel and handle the complaints that the tuning knob, RTI etc. are in the wrong places. :-) 73 Bill AE6JV On 5/31/19 at 7:37 AM, n...@elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) wrote: It is possible to invert the transceiver to favor left hand operation. A system of mirrors can then be used to restore panel text orientation. --- Bill Frantz| I like the farmers' market | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | because I can get fruits and | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | vegetables without stickers. | Los Gatos, CA 95032 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
I learned the cw paddles with my right hand. My friend W8RO suggested I switch to my not dominant left hand so I can write with my right hand. I flipped the wires and found that I was just as good with my left hand (no difference right to left). Something about the brain and learning, eh? Chuck Jack KE9UW Sent from my iPhone, cjack > On May 31, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > > Even being left handed, I have no problem using my right hand on the knobs. > That leaves my left hand free to do other things requiring a greater degree > of hand/finger coordination. > > I like it the way it is. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 5/31/2019 11:42 AM, George Thornton wrote: >> If Elecraft reflects things to get left hand orientation, does that mean all >> the letters on the front panel will be reversed? Will lefties also need a >> mirror to read the labels? >> Just a joke from a right hander. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
Also being left handed, I've used the K3 on both sides, but prefer the radio on the left, leaving the traditional 'mouse' hand on the right; useful for those who can still manage more than one task at a time. ;-) In other words, the K3 has no bias towards either hand for the essential controls. Rick nhc North Idaho On 5/31/2019 10:22 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Even being left handed, I have no problem using my right hand on the knobs. That leaves my left hand free to do other things requiring a greater degree of hand/finger coordination. I like it the way it is. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/31/2019 11:42 AM, George Thornton wrote: If Elecraft reflects things to get left hand orientation, does that mean all the letters on the front panel will be reversed? Will lefties also need a mirror to read the labels? Just a joke from a right hander. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
Not to worry. We southpaws have highly developed and superior adaptation skills since the world is run by northpaws in a tyranny of the majority. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 5/31/2019 12:16 AM, Doug Millar via Elecraft wrote: Just a peripheral note- the K3 seems not to have a handedness. It works fine for either left or right-handed people. The K4 seems obviously a right-handed radio with the main tuning knob on the right. I am sure they couldn't make a radio with a mirror image of the front panel for lefties. Or could they? Doug K6JEY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
Gee, I’m left handed, and I LIKE to tune with my right, so I can send with my left. 73, Scott K9MA -- Scott Ellington --- via iPad > On May 31, 2019, at 9:37 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > Even in the case of the K3, the VFO and RIT controls are on the right side of > center. In the K4, with its large display, there’s really no choice but to > group the controls on one side or the other. > > It is possible to invert the transceiver to favor left hand operation. A > system of mirrors can then be used to restore panel text orientation. > > Wayne > N6KR > > > elecraft.com > >> On May 31, 2019, at 6:54 AM, NW0M wrote: >> >> >> Just a peripheral note- the K3 seems not to have a handedness. It works fine >> for either left or right-handed people. The K4 seems obviously a >> right-handed radio with the main tuning knob on the right. I am sure they >> couldn't make a radio with a mirror image of the front panel for lefties. Or >> could they? Doug K6JEY >> >> >> ***Surely you jest >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
I realized soon after I posted about the K4's "Handedness" that I have a K-pod, which should solve the problem nicely. Thanks E'craft! Always ahead of the game. Doug O __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
Even being left handed, I have no problem using my right hand on the knobs. That leaves my left hand free to do other things requiring a greater degree of hand/finger coordination. I like it the way it is. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/31/2019 11:42 AM, George Thornton wrote: If Elecraft reflects things to get left hand orientation, does that mean all the letters on the front panel will be reversed? Will lefties also need a mirror to read the labels? Just a joke from a right hander. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
If Elecraft reflects things to get left hand orientation, does that mean all the letters on the front panel will be reversed? Will lefties also need a mirror to read the labels? Just a joke from a right hander. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Ted G7BQM Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:39 AM To: wayne burdick ; Elecraft Cc: NW0M Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Handedness Or use a left handed K-Pod. 73, Ted G7BQM > On 31 May 2019, at 15:37, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > Even in the case of the K3, the VFO and RIT controls are on the right side of > center. In the K4, with its large display, there’s really no choice but to > group the controls on one side or the other. > > It is possible to invert the transceiver to favor left hand operation. A > system of mirrors can then be used to restore panel text orientation. > > Wayne > N6KR > > > elecraft.com > >> On May 31, 2019, at 6:54 AM, NW0M wrote: >> >> >> Just a peripheral note- the K3 seems not to have a handedness. It >> works fine for either left or right-handed people. The K4 seems >> obviously a right-handed radio with the main tuning knob on the >> right. I am sure they couldn't make a radio with a mirror image of >> the front panel for lefties. Or could they? Doug K6JEY >> >> >> ***Surely you jest >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this >> email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
Or use a left handed K-Pod. 73, Ted G7BQM > On 31 May 2019, at 15:37, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > Even in the case of the K3, the VFO and RIT controls are on the right side of > center. In the K4, with its large display, there’s really no choice but to > group the controls on one side or the other. > > It is possible to invert the transceiver to favor left hand operation. A > system of mirrors can then be used to restore panel text orientation. > > Wayne > N6KR > > > elecraft.com > >> On May 31, 2019, at 6:54 AM, NW0M wrote: >> >> >> Just a peripheral note- the K3 seems not to have a handedness. It works fine >> for either left or right-handed people. The K4 seems obviously a >> right-handed radio with the main tuning knob on the right. I am sure they >> couldn't make a radio with a mirror image of the front panel for lefties. Or >> could they? Doug K6JEY >> >> >> ***Surely you jest >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
Even in the case of the K3, the VFO and RIT controls are on the right side of center. In the K4, with its large display, there’s really no choice but to group the controls on one side or the other. It is possible to invert the transceiver to favor left hand operation. A system of mirrors can then be used to restore panel text orientation. Wayne N6KR elecraft.com > On May 31, 2019, at 6:54 AM, NW0M wrote: > > > Just a peripheral note- the K3 seems not to have a handedness. It works fine > for either left or right-handed people. The K4 seems obviously a > right-handed radio with the main tuning knob on the right. I am sure they > couldn't make a radio with a mirror image of the front panel for lefties. Or > could they? Doug K6JEY > > > ***Surely you jest > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
Just a peripheral note- the K3 seems not to have a handedness. It works fine for either left or right-handed people. The K4 seems obviously a right-handed radio with the main tuning knob on the right. I am sure they couldn't make a radio with a mirror image of the front panel for lefties. Or could they? Doug K6JEY ***Surely you jest -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
