Re: [Elecraft] K3 Macro toggle
Ok, so Dick and Bill suggested two similar approaches, one is to save a completely empty macro, one with just ";" in the macro. Both work the same way, and pressing M4-HOLD will flash "MACRO 2" and do nothing else, as expected. I don't remember how a "virgin" K3 behaves wrt empty M-keys, but I suspect that what John observed is the expected behaviour. Anyway, this mostly boils down to a curiosity, and the empty macro trick does what I want to achieve for the moment, until I'll come up with anothe use for it. Thanks to all for your attention Pf > "KU4AF" == KU4AF writes: KU4AF> Hmm, further investigation shows this isn't the whole story. Recording a CW KU4AF> or voice message to an Mx key does clear its MxT and MxH macro assignments, KU4AF> but if I assign a new macro to either MxT or MxH (but not both), that macro KU4AF> will then operate for both MxTap and MxHold. KU4AF> This oddity doesn't prevent assigning another macro to the unintended Tap or KU4AF> Hold, but it does seem buggish. I guess if you really want the unused key KU4AF> function to do nothing you could assign an empty macro to it. KU4AF> John, KU4AF KU4AF> Pittsboro, NC KU4AF> Pf, KU4AF> You can clear the macro from the M1-M4 keys by storing a CW or voice message KU4AF> there. Just tap the REC key, then the M key, record the message and tap the KU4AF> REC key again. If you don't want a message there, just tap the REC key KU4AF> without recording anything. KU4AF> John, KU4AF KU4AF> Pittsboro, NC KU4AF> Pierfrancesco Caci wrote >> >> Many thanks for this nice example. Now, I would like to free up M4-HOLD, >> but I can't find anywhere in the manuals how to delete a macro >> assignment from one of the programmable keys. Is it possible at all, or >> should I just wait for when I come up with my next macro and just >> replace it? >> >> Pf >> KU4AF> -- KU4AF> View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Macro-toggle-tp7558366p7558817.html KU4AF> Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. KU4AF> __ KU4AF> Elecraft mailing list KU4AF> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft KU4AF> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm KU4AF> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net KU4AF> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net KU4AF> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Macro toggle
Hmm, further investigation shows this isn't the whole story. Recording a CW or voice message to an Mx key does clear its MxT and MxH macro assignments, but if I assign a new macro to either MxT or MxH (but not both), that macro will then operate for both MxTap and MxHold. This oddity doesn't prevent assigning another macro to the unintended Tap or Hold, but it does seem buggish. I guess if you really want the unused key function to do nothing you could assign an empty macro to it. John, KU4AF Pittsboro, NC Pf, You can clear the macro from the M1-M4 keys by storing a CW or voice message there. Just tap the REC key, then the M key, record the message and tap the REC key again. If you don't want a message there, just tap the REC key without recording anything. John, KU4AF Pittsboro, NC Pierfrancesco Caci wrote > > Many thanks for this nice example. Now, I would like to free up M4-HOLD, > but I can't find anywhere in the manuals how to delete a macro > assignment from one of the programmable keys. Is it possible at all, or > should I just wait for when I come up with my next macro and just > replace it? > > Pf > -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Macro-toggle-tp7558366p7558817.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Macro toggle
Pf, You can clear the macro from the M1-M4 keys by storing a CW or voice message there. Just tap the REC key, then the M key, record the message and tap the REC key again. If you don't want a message there, just tap the REC key without recording anything. John, KU4AF Pittsboro, NC Many thanks for this nice example. Now, I would like to free up M4-HOLD, but I can't find anywhere in the manuals how to delete a macro assignment from one of the programmable keys. Is it possible at all, or should I just wait for when I come up with my next macro and just replace it? Pf -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Macro-toggle-tp7558366p7558807.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Macro toggle
Many thanks for this nice example. Now, I would like to free up M4-HOLD, but I can't find anywhere in the manuals how to delete a macro assignment from one of the programmable keys. Is it possible at all, or should I just wait for when I come up with my next macro and just replace it? Pf > "Nick-WA5BDU" == Nick-WA5BDU writes: Nick-WA5BDU> Whoa, I like this. Must have missed it the first time around. I now Nick-WA5BDU> tap M3 to toggle between Nick-WA5BDU> 5W (label: QRP) and 100W (label: QRO) with these macros: Nick-WA5BDU> MACRO1 PC005;MN110;SWT12;SWT35;SWT14; Nick-WA5BDU> MACRO2 PC100;MN110;SWT11;SWT35;SWT14; Nick-WA5BDU> That freed up (hold) M3 for another macro. Nick-WA5BDU> TU / 73- Nick-WA5BDU> Nick, WA5BDU Nick-WA5BDU> On 7/1/2012 12:35 PM, KU4AF wrote: >> Two macros instead of one - that sums up what is needed, but how to call two >> macros with one button? I was just fiddling around and came up with this, >> though it may not be original. The idea is to let the macro itself reassign >> the PF key to a different macro. For example, say you want the PF2 key to >> toggle between setting VFO A to 14010 and 14020 (not useful but just an >> example). >> >> Use the Utility to create the two macros like this: >> >> MACRO1 FA0001401;MN110;SWT12;SWH47;SWT14; >> MACRO2 FA0001402;MN110;SWT11;SWH47;SWT14; >> >> Send the Macros to the K3 then, on the K3, go to CONFIG:MACRO X, tap 1 and >> then hold PF2. Tap MENU to get out of CONFIG. Now MACRO1 is assigned to PF2. >> When you Hold PF2 the macro changes the frequency and then assigns MACRO2 to >> PF2. The next operation of PF2 sets a different frequency and sets PF2 back >> to MACRO1. >> >> Substitute whatever you want to toggle between for the FA commands. Put the >> two macros in whatever slots you have open and change the SWT11/12 taps to >> match. Change SWH47 to match the PF/M button you want to use. You could also >> expand on this to rotate among 3 or more macros. >> >> I expect others can add to this and again, I claim no originality for this >> idea. Now, who will be the first to suggest we need more than 8 Macro slots? >> >> John, KU4AF >> Pittsboro, NC >> >> Nick-WA5BDU> __ Nick-WA5BDU> Elecraft mailing list Nick-WA5BDU> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Nick-WA5BDU> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Nick-WA5BDU> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Nick-WA5BDU> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Nick-WA5BDU> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Macro toggle
Whoa, I like this. Must have missed it the first time around. I now tap M3 to toggle between 5W (label: QRP) and 100W (label: QRO) with these macros: MACRO1 PC005;MN110;SWT12;SWT35;SWT14; MACRO2 PC100;MN110;SWT11;SWT35;SWT14; That freed up (hold) M3 for another macro. TU / 73- Nick, WA5BDU On 7/1/2012 12:35 PM, KU4AF wrote: > Two macros instead of one - that sums up what is needed, but how to call two > macros with one button? I was just fiddling around and came up with this, > though it may not be original. The idea is to let the macro itself reassign > the PF key to a different macro. For example, say you want the PF2 key to > toggle between setting VFO A to 14010 and 14020 (not useful but just an > example). > > Use the Utility to create the two macros like this: > > MACRO1 FA0001401;MN110;SWT12;SWH47;SWT14; > MACRO2 FA0001402;MN110;SWT11;SWH47;SWT14; > > Send the Macros to the K3 then, on the K3, go to CONFIG:MACRO X, tap 1 and > then hold PF2. Tap MENU to get out of CONFIG. Now MACRO1 is assigned to PF2. > When you Hold PF2 the macro changes the frequency and then assigns MACRO2 to > PF2. The next operation of PF2 sets a different frequency and sets PF2 back > to MACRO1. > > Substitute whatever you want to toggle between for the FA commands. Put the > two macros in whatever slots you have open and change the SWT11/12 taps to > match. Change SWH47 to match the PF/M button you want to use. You could also > expand on this to rotate among 3 or more macros. > > I expect others can add to this and again, I claim no originality for this > idea. Now, who will be the first to suggest we need more than 8 Macro slots? > > John, KU4AF > Pittsboro, NC > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Macro toggle
On 7/1/2012 10:35 AM, KU4AF wrote: > The idea is to let the macro itself reassign > the PF key to a different macro. For example, say you want the PF2 key to > toggle between setting VFO A to 14010 and 14020 (not useful but just an > example). Vaguely reminiscent of very early stored program computers where it was considered a cool feature that your code could do arithmetic on itself creating new code the next time through [like stepping an address sequentially, or ... gasp ... changing instruction op codes into different instructions :-)]. I have yet to figure out how to get N1MM to use both banks of the K3 DVR. The obvious way would be for the macros that use Bank 2 make the switch and key the message and then switch back to Bank 1. The problem is that the logger has no way of knowing when the voice message is over. It does the bank switch OK and keys the message, then executes the switch back to Bank 1 killing the audio immediately. I guess this is the case for all loggers since there's no feedback from the K3 DVR that it's done. I've never needed more than two messages on SSB, so it isn't a problem, just a challenge. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Macro toggle
Two macros instead of one - that sums up what is needed, but how to call two macros with one button? I was just fiddling around and came up with this, though it may not be original. The idea is to let the macro itself reassign the PF key to a different macro. For example, say you want the PF2 key to toggle between setting VFO A to 14010 and 14020 (not useful but just an example). Use the Utility to create the two macros like this: MACRO1 FA0001401;MN110;SWT12;SWH47;SWT14; MACRO2 FA0001402;MN110;SWT11;SWH47;SWT14; Send the Macros to the K3 then, on the K3, go to CONFIG:MACRO X, tap 1 and then hold PF2. Tap MENU to get out of CONFIG. Now MACRO1 is assigned to PF2. When you Hold PF2 the macro changes the frequency and then assigns MACRO2 to PF2. The next operation of PF2 sets a different frequency and sets PF2 back to MACRO1. Substitute whatever you want to toggle between for the FA commands. Put the two macros in whatever slots you have open and change the SWT11/12 taps to match. Change SWH47 to match the PF/M button you want to use. You could also expand on this to rotate among 3 or more macros. I expect others can add to this and again, I claim no originality for this idea. Now, who will be the first to suggest we need more than 8 Macro slots? John, KU4AF Pittsboro, NC Stewart, What you are asking is not possible in one macro. You could do it with two macros - one to turn it on and the other to turn it off. 73, Don W3FPR -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Macro-toggle-tp7558366p7558431.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Macro toggle
> I suspect (given the number of replies) that this is not possible. It is certainly possible to toggle DIGOUT1 with a macro - MN019;UP;MN255; will do it. It is also possible to toggle the TUNE function - SWH16; will do that. However, when you combine the two and order matters you have departed the realm of a toggle function. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 7/1/2012 3:00 AM, Stewart wrote: > Val, > DIGOUT1 is an open collector line that is able to be controlled by the > firmware. > It is also used to switch the external 6m pre-amp option. > > I know that some of the K3 commands (like TUNE) can be toggled by a macro. > My question was how to implement toggling by a function switch to include > commands > that do not have inherent toggling. > > I suspect (given the number of replies) that this is not possible. > > There have been a number of recent posts suggesting that the use of macros can > be used to correct some of the K3's H/W or F/W anomalies. > > Macros, although powerful, do have their limitations... > > 73 > Stewart G3RXQ > > On Sun, 1 Jul 2012 09:01:52 +0300, Val wrote: >> Stewart, >> >> You can make a toggleable macros by SWT/SWH commands that emulate >> pressing/holding the switches that normally control the given function. I >> don't know what is DIGOUT1 and how is it turned on and off normally, but >> TUNE is toggled by SWH16. >> >> 73, Val LZ1VB >> >> >>> I need some help from those experienced in K3 macros. >>> >>> What I want to do is:- >>> >>> First press of say PF1 >>> Turn ON DIGOUT1 >>> Wait n mS >>> Turn ON TUNE >>> >>> Second press of PF1 >>> Turn OFF TUNE >>> Turn OFF DIGOUT1 >>> >>> i.e. How can you toggle a macro from a function key ? >>> >>> T.I.A. >>> >>> 73 >>> Stewart G3RXQ >>> >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Macro toggle
That's what I thought Don. Unfortunately allocating 2 function switches or a Tap/Hold of 1 switch on the K3 is not really practical. So much better if the F/W did it. 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Sun, 01 Jul 2012 08:18:38 -0400, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Stewart, > > What you are asking is not possible in one macro. You could do it with > two macros - one to turn it on and the other to turn it off. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 7/1/2012 3:00 AM, Stewart wrote: >> Val, >> DIGOUT1 is an open collector line that is able to be controlled by the >> firmware. >> It is also used to switch the external 6m pre-amp option. >> >> I know that some of the K3 commands (like TUNE) can be toggled by a macro. >> My question was how to implement toggling by a function switch to include >> commands >> that do not have inherent toggling. >> >> I suspect (given the number of replies) that this is not possible. >> >> There have been a number of recent posts suggesting that the use of macros >> can >> be used to correct some of the K3's H/W or F/W anomalies. >> >> Macros, although powerful, do have their limitations... >> >> 73 >> Stewart G3RXQ >> >> On Sun, 1 Jul 2012 09:01:52 +0300, Val wrote: >>> Stewart, >>> >>> You can make a toggleable macros by SWT/SWH commands that emulate >>> pressing/holding the switches that normally control the given function. I >>> don't know what is DIGOUT1 and how is it turned on and off normally, but >>> TUNE is toggled by SWH16. >>> >>> 73, Val LZ1VB >>> >>> I need some help from those experienced in K3 macros. What I want to do is:- First press of say PF1 Turn ON DIGOUT1 Wait n mS Turn ON TUNE Second press of PF1 Turn OFF TUNE Turn OFF DIGOUT1 i.e. How can you toggle a macro from a function key ? T.I.A. 73 Stewart G3RXQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Macro toggle
Stewart, What you are asking is not possible in one macro. You could do it with two macros - one to turn it on and the other to turn it off. 73, Don W3FPR On 7/1/2012 3:00 AM, Stewart wrote: > Val, > DIGOUT1 is an open collector line that is able to be controlled by the > firmware. > It is also used to switch the external 6m pre-amp option. > > I know that some of the K3 commands (like TUNE) can be toggled by a macro. > My question was how to implement toggling by a function switch to include > commands > that do not have inherent toggling. > > I suspect (given the number of replies) that this is not possible. > > There have been a number of recent posts suggesting that the use of macros can > be used to correct some of the K3's H/W or F/W anomalies. > > Macros, although powerful, do have their limitations... > > 73 > Stewart G3RXQ > > On Sun, 1 Jul 2012 09:01:52 +0300, Val wrote: >> Stewart, >> >> You can make a toggleable macros by SWT/SWH commands that emulate >> pressing/holding the switches that normally control the given function. I >> don't know what is DIGOUT1 and how is it turned on and off normally, but >> TUNE is toggled by SWH16. >> >> 73, Val LZ1VB >> >> >>> I need some help from those experienced in K3 macros. >>> >>> What I want to do is:- >>> >>> First press of say PF1 >>> Turn ON DIGOUT1 >>> Wait n mS >>> Turn ON TUNE >>> >>> Second press of PF1 >>> Turn OFF TUNE >>> Turn OFF DIGOUT1 >>> >>> i.e. How can you toggle a macro from a function key ? >>> >>> T.I.A. >>> >>> 73 >>> Stewart G3RXQ >>> >> __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Macro toggle
Val, DIGOUT1 is an open collector line that is able to be controlled by the firmware. It is also used to switch the external 6m pre-amp option. I know that some of the K3 commands (like TUNE) can be toggled by a macro. My question was how to implement toggling by a function switch to include commands that do not have inherent toggling. I suspect (given the number of replies) that this is not possible. There have been a number of recent posts suggesting that the use of macros can be used to correct some of the K3's H/W or F/W anomalies. Macros, although powerful, do have their limitations... 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Sun, 1 Jul 2012 09:01:52 +0300, Val wrote: > Stewart, > > You can make a toggleable macros by SWT/SWH commands that emulate > pressing/holding the switches that normally control the given function. I > don't know what is DIGOUT1 and how is it turned on and off normally, but > TUNE is toggled by SWH16. > > 73, Val LZ1VB > > >>I need some help from those experienced in K3 macros. >> >> What I want to do is:- >> >> First press of say PF1 >> Turn ON DIGOUT1 >> Wait n mS >> Turn ON TUNE >> >> Second press of PF1 >> Turn OFF TUNE >> Turn OFF DIGOUT1 >> >> i.e. How can you toggle a macro from a function key ? >> >> T.I.A. >> >> 73 >> Stewart G3RXQ >> > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Macro toggle
Stewart, You can make a toggleable macros by SWT/SWH commands that emulate pressing/holding the switches that normally control the given function. I don't know what is DIGOUT1 and how is it turned on and off normally, but TUNE is toggled by SWH16. 73, Val LZ1VB >I need some help from those experienced in K3 macros. > > What I want to do is:- > > First press of say PF1 > Turn ON DIGOUT1 > Wait n mS > Turn ON TUNE > > Second press of PF1 > Turn OFF TUNE > Turn OFF DIGOUT1 > > i.e. How can you toggle a macro from a function key ? > > T.I.A. > > 73 > Stewart G3RXQ > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
