Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards
I have pretty much given up my LP-PAN +CW skimmer and NAP3 ever since I upgraded my PC OS from XP to WIN7 ( 64bit ) with AMD X4 Phenom. Tried now two different soundcards Infrasonic Quartet ( did work OK in XP ) and now recently bought EMU 0204 and same nightmare continues. Have taken memory physically out from PC and limited use of memory in down to 3G, did run things with admin rights and XP SP3 compatibilty but nothing seems to to work. stick with XP 32bit if you want to use these.. :( Olli OH6CT -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- boun...@mailman.qth.net] Puolesta KQ8M Lähetetty: 3. syyskuuta 2012 21:10 Vastaanottaja: billr...@comcast.net; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Aihe: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards Bill, Thank you for relaying that for the rest of us. I guess I am one of those Larry was referring to. Larry, Thank you for doing the extra work amidst my insistence the card was crap. I will give your instructions a try and connect one up to my Win 7 machine again. I have never used the 0204 to listen from. It has only been used for the input from the SDR/LPan. I will give it another shot nevertheless. The best thing about Win 7 is having the ability to set the cards parameters from within the sound applet through the Control Panel. Unfortunately there is no such thing in XP. 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters k...@kq8m.com AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of billr...@comcast.net Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 1:00 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards Thanks to N8LP for the info he posted below. One happy discovery that might help eliminate some E-MU 0204 USB soundcard driver angst for Win 7 64 bit users: Windows 7 64 bit has an E-MU driver resident in the operating system. This driver will *not* automatically install when the 0204 card is first plugged in, but is easily installed from Device Manager via the Update Driver utility. Win 7 will find the driver and install the 0204 card in about 5 seconds. The driver does not seem to have a graphical user interface, but works fine on my system with NaP3 for sampling rates up to 192K. This driver is dated 11-12-2010 and is version 6.6.1.1 by Creative Labs. Follow Larry's instructions for defaulting the sample rate to 192 K in Windows mixer setup and set the output to something other than the EMU 0204 in NaP3 setup and it should work well. Bill, WA4KBD -- FYI to all reading this thread: The 4GB RAM issue only appears to affect playback. The problem is that the audio will break up/lose sync after a period of time. This only applies, of course, if you actually listen to the output of the SDR. If you select another sound card in the Output selection in NaP3, it will be fine. You really don't need 192kHz for playback, since the widest filter is 10kHz. So any sound card will do just fine, including a built in one. You can still select the E-MU for Input and use 192kHz sampling for input. Therefore, you don't need to give up your extra RAM. I have updated my system requirements page with this info... http://www.telepostinc.com/sysrequirements.html 73, Larry N8LP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards
Olli, I'm sorry to read your comments. I'm running NaP3 with a E-MU-0202 sound card and the beta driver, the same driver you use. My PC is a Toshiba laptop and the OS is Win7 Pro64. I must admit it took a little fiddling to become stable, but it does work. The only problem that still remains is when I do a lot of fast tuning of my KX3 using NaP3, the system becomes unstable and crashes, but otherwise, it works FB. I should also tell you that I have VAC installed and am using FLDIGI for PSK31. I use my laptop's sound card for that step. This combination seems quite stable, so far. So, don't give up yet. Have a cold beer and start again:-) 73, Barry K3NDM On 9/13/2012 12:21 PM, Olli Tuppurainen wrote: I have pretty much given up my LP-PAN +CW skimmer and NAP3 ever since I upgraded my PC OS from XP to WIN7 ( 64bit ) with AMD X4 Phenom. Tried now two different soundcards Infrasonic Quartet ( did work OK in XP ) and now recently bought EMU 0204 and same nightmare continues. Have taken memory physically out from PC and limited use of memory in down to 3G, did run things with admin rights and XP SP3 compatibilty but nothing seems to to work. stick with XP 32bit if you want to use these.. :( Olli OH6CT -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- boun...@mailman.qth.net] Puolesta KQ8M Lähetetty: 3. syyskuuta 2012 21:10 Vastaanottaja: billr...@comcast.net; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Aihe: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards Bill, Thank you for relaying that for the rest of us. I guess I am one of those Larry was referring to. Larry, Thank you for doing the extra work amidst my insistence the card was crap. I will give your instructions a try and connect one up to my Win 7 machine again. I have never used the 0204 to listen from. It has only been used for the input from the SDR/LPan. I will give it another shot nevertheless. The best thing about Win 7 is having the ability to set the cards parameters from within the sound applet through the Control Panel. Unfortunately there is no such thing in XP. 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters k...@kq8m.com AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of billr...@comcast.net Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 1:00 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards Thanks to N8LP for the info he posted below. One happy discovery that might help eliminate some E-MU 0204 USB soundcard driver angst for Win 7 64 bit users: Windows 7 64 bit has an E-MU driver resident in the operating system. This driver will *not* automatically install when the 0204 card is first plugged in, but is easily installed from Device Manager via the Update Driver utility. Win 7 will find the driver and install the 0204 card in about 5 seconds. The driver does not seem to have a graphical user interface, but works fine on my system with NaP3 for sampling rates up to 192K. This driver is dated 11-12-2010 and is version 6.6.1.1 by Creative Labs. Follow Larry's instructions for defaulting the sample rate to 192 K in Windows mixer setup and set the output to something other than the EMU 0204 in NaP3 setup and it should work well. Bill, WA4KBD -- FYI to all reading this thread: The 4GB RAM issue only appears to affect playback. The problem is that the audio will break up/lose sync after a period of time. This only applies, of course, if you actually listen to the output of the SDR. If you select another sound card in the Output selection in NaP3, it will be fine. You really don't need 192kHz for playback, since the widest filter is 10kHz. So any sound card will do just fine, including a built in one. You can still select the E-MU for Input and use 192kHz sampling for input. Therefore, you don't need to give up your extra RAM. I have updated my system requirements page with this info... http://www.telepostinc.com/sysrequirements.html 73, Larry N8LP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards
Thanks to N8LP for the info he posted below. One happy discovery that might help eliminate some E-MU 0204 USB soundcard driver angst for Win 7 64 bit users: Windows 7 64 bit has an E-MU driver resident in the operating system. This driver will *not* automatically install when the 0204 card is first plugged in, but is easily installed from Device Manager via the Update Driver utility. Win 7 will find the driver and install the 0204 card in about 5 seconds. The driver does not seem to have a graphical user interface, but works fine on my system with NaP3 for sampling rates up to 192K. This driver is dated 11-12-2010 and is version 6.6.1.1 by Creative Labs. Follow Larry's instructions for defaulting the sample rate to 192 K in Windows mixer setup and set the output to something other than the EMU 0204 in NaP3 setup and it should work well. Bill, WA4KBD -- FYI to all reading this thread: The 4GB RAM issue only appears to affect playback. The problem is that the audio will break up/lose sync after a period of time. This only applies, of course, if you actually listen to the output of the SDR. If you select another sound card in the Output selection in NaP3, it will be fine. You really don't need 192kHz for playback, since the widest filter is 10kHz. So any sound card will do just fine, including a built in one. You can still select the E-MU for Input and use 192kHz sampling for input. Therefore, you don't need to give up your extra RAM. I have updated my system requirements page with this info... http://www.telepostinc.com/sysrequirements.html 73, Larry N8LP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards
Bill, Thank you for relaying that for the rest of us. I guess I am one of those Larry was referring to. Larry, Thank you for doing the extra work amidst my insistence the card was crap. I will give your instructions a try and connect one up to my Win 7 machine again. I have never used the 0204 to listen from. It has only been used for the input from the SDR/LPan. I will give it another shot nevertheless. The best thing about Win 7 is having the ability to set the cards parameters from within the sound applet through the Control Panel. Unfortunately there is no such thing in XP. 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters k...@kq8m.com AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of billr...@comcast.net Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 1:00 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards Thanks to N8LP for the info he posted below. One happy discovery that might help eliminate some E-MU 0204 USB soundcard driver angst for Win 7 64 bit users: Windows 7 64 bit has an E-MU driver resident in the operating system. This driver will *not* automatically install when the 0204 card is first plugged in, but is easily installed from Device Manager via the Update Driver utility. Win 7 will find the driver and install the 0204 card in about 5 seconds. The driver does not seem to have a graphical user interface, but works fine on my system with NaP3 for sampling rates up to 192K. This driver is dated 11-12-2010 and is version 6.6.1.1 by Creative Labs. Follow Larry's instructions for defaulting the sample rate to 192 K in Windows mixer setup and set the output to something other than the EMU 0204 in NaP3 setup and it should work well. Bill, WA4KBD -- FYI to all reading this thread: The 4GB RAM issue only appears to affect playback. The problem is that the audio will break up/lose sync after a period of time. This only applies, of course, if you actually listen to the output of the SDR. If you select another sound card in the Output selection in NaP3, it will be fine. You really don't need 192kHz for playback, since the widest filter is 10kHz. So any sound card will do just fine, including a built in one. You can still select the E-MU for Input and use 192kHz sampling for input. Therefore, you don't need to give up your extra RAM. I have updated my system requirements page with this info... http://www.telepostinc.com/sysrequirements.html 73, Larry N8LP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards
FYI to all reading this thread: The 4GB RAM issue only appears to affect playback. The problem is that the audio will break up/lose sync after a period of time. This only applies, of course, if you actually listen to the output of the SDR. If you select another sound card in the Output selection in NaP3, it will be fine. You really don't need 192kHz for playback, since the widest filter is 10kHz. So any sound card will do just fine, including a built in one. You can still select the E-MU for Input and use 192kHz sampling for input. Therefore, you don't need to give up your extra RAM. I have updated my system requirements page with this info... http://www.telepostinc.com/sysrequirements.html 73, Larry N8LP KQ8M wrote I have 16 Gb ram. That means I have to shut off 12Gb every time I want to use my sound card? Yes, that makes sense. I guess the drivers work fine. I think not. 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters kq8m@ AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 -Original Message- From: elecraft-bounces@.qth [mailto:elecraft-bounces@.qth] On Behalf Of Alan Hawrylyshen Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2012 6:27 PM To: billreid@ Cc: elecraft@.qth Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards Bill, good advice all around, but what is the rationale for this one? (below) Thanks Alan K2ACK Sent from my mobile device. On Aug 31, 2012, at 18:45, billreid@ wrote: 2. If your computer boasts over 4 gig of RAM, you must throttle it back to no more than 4 GB. This is done via the msconfig utility. Hit the Windows 'Start' icon, type msconfig and hit enter. This brings up a system configuration screen. Select the 'boot' tab and then 'Advanced options...' Now, in the screen that comes up, enter 4095 as the maximum memory and hit 'OK'. When your computer is rebooted, it will have 4 GB of RAM at its disposal. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@.qth This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@.qth This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/SDR-Sound-Cards-tp7561844p7561975.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards
I'm running a 0204 with NaP3 on The Release to Manufacturing build of Windows 8. 64 bit, it all works great as expected They don't have the Windows 0204 drivers on the website because it comes with them in the box.(I found it curious why they don't have them on the website for the 0204) I also have a 0202 that works find in Windows 7 64 bit, you can download these drivers on the creative website and to be honest, I think they are the same drivers that come in the box with the 0204. All running with an LP-PAN II of course. It by far has exceeded my expectations. LP-Bridge + LP-PAN II + K3 + E-MU 0204 + Windows 7/8... solid and reliable. With N1MM or DxLab... with NaP3 cranking away. Very little CPU usage on a nice i5 setup with a $120 AMD discrete video card. If you want a plug and play toaster, get the P3... if you want total flexibility with a smooth as silk sizable window with a great mouse interface, go with the Creative E-MU 0204 and the LP-PAN II. If you are trying to run this on some old dog single or dual core setup with a 13 year old OS like XP... well then good luck. de NG7M KQ8M wrote I'm sorry but it is true. I have 2 0204's and neither work for crap on Win 7. I have been on Creative's forums and read all of the big audiophile's that used the 0204 on XP but cannot get it to work worth dung on Vista or Win 7. I have tried. Go to Creative's website and see if you can download drivers for an 0204 for ANY Windows platform! -- M. George __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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If you are trying to run this on some old dog single or dual core setup with a 13 year old OS like XP... well then good luck. I am running mH Router + LP-Bridge + LP-PAN2 + NaP3 + N1MM + K3 + mAudio 2496, all with XP32 on a 2-core AMD 2.1Ghz machine that's a bit long in the tooth. Getting all this going was a bit involved for sure. There are many parameters that need to be set just right, and the sequence of loading is somewhat critical. That aside, everything now runs flawlessly, and the pan display is super great. YMMV. ...robert -- Robert G. Strickland, PhD, ABPH - KE2WY rc...@verizon.net Syracuse, New York, USA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Tony, You are correct. However, I think you missed my point. The discussion has been concern over using cards that are capable of a 192KHz sample rate. My point was, maybe stated badly, was that shouldn't be a consideration as Elecraft was saying you really should stay at 48KHz, but 96KHz would be just OK . I was not trying to get into a Nyquist discussion. I think the concern has been the ability to see the entire spectrum of the ham band being used. And, I was trying to say that you will see it, just 48KHz at a time, software controlled. If the recommendation is to steer away from the 192KHz. bandwidth, consideration of a 192KHz. capable card is kinda mute. Go for a card that has high linearity and low internal noise, and some of those do not go to 192KHz. 73, Barry K3NDM - Original Message - From: Tony Estep estept...@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 3:29:22 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Barry LaZar k3...@comcast.net wrote: if you opt to use NaP3 and set it so that what you are tuned to is in the center of the display, you will always see the +/- 24KHz == The amount you see is selectable. It depends on the sampling rate as set by the sound card, the sampling rate set in the NaP3 Setup page, and the width selected on the NaP3 display. If you have a 192K card, you can see up to +/- 96K, or as little as +/- 3K. Tony KT0NY -- http://www.isb.edu/faculty/facultydir.aspx?ddlFaculty=352 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 9:25 AM, k3...@comcast.net wrote: ...will see it, just 48KHz at a time... --- You can see it 96Khz at a time if your card will sample at 96K and your setup is correct. Tony KT0NY -- http://www.isb.edu/faculty/facultydir.aspx?ddlFaculty=352 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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I am running mH Router + LP-Bridge + LP-PAN2 + NaP3 + N1MM + K3 + mAudio 2496, all with XP32 on a 2-core AMD 2.1Ghz machine that's a bit long in the tooth. Which microHAM interface are you using? With CW Keyer, Digikeyer, Digikeyer II. microKEYER or microKEYER II you do not need LP-Bridge. N1MM works with the primary CAT port and NaP3 can connect to the 2nd CAT port. This avoids some of the critical timing, load order issues and reduces load on the processor. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 9/1/2012 9:41 AM, Robert G. Strickland wrote: If you are trying to run this on some old dog single or dual core setup with a 13 year old OS like XP... well then good luck. I am running mH Router + LP-Bridge + LP-PAN2 + NaP3 + N1MM + K3 + mAudio 2496, all with XP32 on a 2-core AMD 2.1Ghz machine that's a bit long in the tooth. Getting all this going was a bit involved for sure. There are many parameters that need to be set just right, and the sequence of loading is somewhat critical. That aside, everything now runs flawlessly, and the pan display is super great. YMMV. ...robert __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Joe... Good thought. Along the way to getting LP-Pan working, I had forgotten about the secondary CAT port in Router. I tried that, and as you said, it works fine. One small point is the need to load Router in the standard environment. Without it there's no control with NaP3. In that way, using my stated scheme is just slightly more handy but hardly enough to quibble over. Thanks for the heads up. ...robert On 9/1/2012 15:54, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: I am running mH Router + LP-Bridge + LP-PAN2 + NaP3 + N1MM + K3 + mAudio 2496, all with XP32 on a 2-core AMD 2.1Ghz machine that's a bit long in the tooth. Which microHAM interface are you using? With CW Keyer, Digikeyer, Digikeyer II. microKEYER or microKEYER II you do not need LP-Bridge. N1MM works with the primary CAT port and NaP3 can connect to the 2nd CAT port. This avoids some of the critical timing, load order issues and reduces load on the processor. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 9/1/2012 9:41 AM, Robert G. Strickland wrote: If you are trying to run this on some old dog single or dual core setup with a 13 year old OS like XP... well then good luck. I am running mH Router + LP-Bridge + LP-PAN2 + NaP3 + N1MM + K3 + mAudio 2496, all with XP32 on a 2-core AMD 2.1Ghz machine that's a bit long in the tooth. Getting all this going was a bit involved for sure. There are many parameters that need to be set just right, and the sequence of loading is somewhat critical. That aside, everything now runs flawlessly, and the pan display is super great. YMMV. ...robert __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Robert G. Strickland, PhD, ABPH - KE2WY rc...@verizon.net Syracuse, New York, USA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Bill, good advice all around, but what is the rationale for this one? (below) Thanks Alan K2ACK Sent from my mobile device. On Aug 31, 2012, at 18:45, billr...@comcast.net wrote: 2. If your computer boasts over 4 gig of RAM, you must throttle it back to no more than 4 GB. This is done via the msconfig utility. Hit the Windows 'Start' icon, type msconfig and hit enter. This brings up a system configuration screen. Select the 'boot' tab and then 'Advanced options...' Now, in the screen that comes up, enter 4095 as the maximum memory and hit 'OK'. When your computer is rebooted, it will have 4 GB of RAM at its disposal. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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I have 16 Gb ram. That means I have to shut off 12Gb every time I want to use my sound card? Yes, that makes sense. I guess the drivers work fine. I think not. 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters k...@kq8m.com AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Alan Hawrylyshen Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2012 6:27 PM To: billr...@comcast.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards Bill, good advice all around, but what is the rationale for this one? (below) Thanks Alan K2ACK Sent from my mobile device. On Aug 31, 2012, at 18:45, billr...@comcast.net wrote: 2. If your computer boasts over 4 gig of RAM, you must throttle it back to no more than 4 GB. This is done via the msconfig utility. Hit the Windows 'Start' icon, type msconfig and hit enter. This brings up a system configuration screen. Select the 'boot' tab and then 'Advanced options...' Now, in the screen that comes up, enter 4095 as the maximum memory and hit 'OK'. When your computer is rebooted, it will have 4 GB of RAM at its disposal. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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All, I think there is something that is being overlooked. The KX3 manual suggests that you stay at a 48KHz sample rate, but 96KHz can be used, but it is really down at the edges. I see no point in considering a card based solely on 192KHz performance. Secondly if you opt to use NaP3 and set it so that what you are tuned to is in the center of the display, you will always see the +/- 24KHz of where the software has tuned the radio when following the Elecraft suggestion, and the response here will be essentially flat. If you are not going to make an SDR using your computer and are only interested in digital work using the audio out, than almost any card will work. And one last point. I do use the E-MU0202 on my Windows7 Pro 64 laptop. I did have a little grief up front, but it seems fine now. The ASIO driver works better than the MME driver, but only the MME driver will let me play with VAC and FLDIGI. The differences between these drivers is that ASIO allows 32 bit DSP and MME allows only 16 bit. If someone knows how to get around this, I'd be most interested. 73, Barry K3NDM On 8/30/2012 8:52 PM, N8LP wrote: I'm not sure what problems you're having, but the 0202 and 0204 in my tests perform better than any of adozen cards I have tested except the E-MU 1212m. The 0204 has the edge over the 0202 in terms of flexibility when it comes to win7/64. If you don't need 192kHz, I highly recommend the M-Audio Audiophile 2496 PCI card at $75. The ASUS cards are good at 96kHz, but fall apart at 192kHz. The Delta 44 was once the best card out there, and it's still decent, but I haven't used one in several years, whereas I have the others all still installed on my shack PC. 73, Larry N8LP KQ8M wrote I'm sorry but it is true. I have 2 0204's and neither work for crap on Win 7. I have been on Creative's forums and read all of the big audiophile's that used the 0204 on XP but cannot get it to work worth dung on Vista or Win 7. I have tried. Go to Creative's website and see if you can download drivers for an 0204 for ANY Windows platform! 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters kq8m@ AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 From: Jim Rhodes [mailto:jimk0xu@] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:21 PM To: KQ8M Cc: Matthew Zilmer; Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; elecraft@.qth Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards That is really not true. The 0204 is Win7 compatible out of the box (or at least claims to be, I don't own one). The 0202 has beta drivers for Win7 that have been working just fine for me on Win7 Ultimate 64 bit for over a year now and I just picked up another for portable operation and loaded the drivers on a netbook running Win7 Starter 32 bit. So yes, the drivers won't automagically load, but it took me about 5 minutes to find, download the drivers (and that includes working around a server error on Creative's server) and install them. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:33 AM, KQ8M lt;kq8m@gt; wrote: Those two don't work very well with Win 7 though. 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters kq8m@ AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 -Original Message- From: elecraft-bounces@.qth [mailto:elecraft-bounces@.qth] On Behalf Of Matthew Zilmer Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:19 PM To: Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; elecraft@.qth Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards The Creative Labs EMU-0202 and -0204 seem to have a following too. Matt Zilmer, W6NIA In status quo voluntas non sufficit -Original Message- From: elecraft-bounces@.qth [mailto:elecraft-bounces@.qth] On Behalf Of Bill Conkling Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:18 AM To: Ken Roberson; elecraft@.qth Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards There well may be others that work well, but the Delta 44 has a long track record as one of the best and lots of info available and happy users. bill nr4c Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid -Original message- From: Ken Roberson lt;kwroberson@gt; To: elecraft@.qth Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 15:22:18 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards Hello ALL, Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44? I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards, Will any of those cards work? I don't need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine. OFF line would be fine Thanks for your help Ken K5DNL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@.qth This list
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On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Barry LaZar k3...@comcast.net wrote: if you opt to use NaP3 and set it so that what you are tuned to is in the center of the display, you will always see the +/- 24KHz == The amount you see is selectable. It depends on the sampling rate as set by the sound card, the sampling rate set in the NaP3 Setup page, and the width selected on the NaP3 display. If you have a 192K card, you can see up to +/- 96K, or as little as +/- 3K. Tony KT0NY -- http://www.isb.edu/faculty/facultydir.aspx?ddlFaculty=352 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Having read several recent posts concerning sound cards for panadapter use, I thought I would share my own recent experience with the Creative E-MU-0204 card. My operating system is Win7 64 bit with 8 GB RAM. I built Larry Phipps' LP-PAN2 and am running NaP3 at 192 KHz with MixW via LP-Bridge. This combination is stable and works very nicely...with the following cautions and caveats: 1. The 0204 comes with an install disk and the driver contained thereon works fine. It is an MME driver. Once installed, however, the computer's audio mixer must be configured to command the driver to lock in sampling rates of 192,000 Hz. If this is not done, the 0204 will default to a 48 Khz sampling rate regardless of what rate is called for by NaP3. To accomplish this, right click on the speaker icon in the Windows system tray. This pops up a menu. Select 'recording devices' and up comes a list of the sound devices on your computer. Double click on E-MU 0204 and in the next screen select the 'advanced' tab. Under 'default format' select '2 channel, 24 bit, 192000 Hz (Studio Quality)' and click 'Apply' and 'OK' Now select the 'Levels' tab and set main volume to a value of 2. This will take you back to where you started. Hit 'OK' to exit the setup screen. 2. If your computer boasts over 4 gig of RAM, you must throttle it back to no more than 4 GB. This is done via the msconfig utility. Hit the Windows 'Start' icon, type msconfig and hit enter. This brings up a system configuration screen. Select the 'boot' tab and then 'Advanced options...' Now, in the screen that comes up, enter 4095 as the maximum memory and hit 'OK'. When your computer is rebooted, it will have 4 GB of RAM at its disposal. 3. USB 2.0 is required, otherwise the 0204 will default to 48 KHz. If you use a hub, make sure it is 2.0 compliant and has its own power supply. Interestingly, the driver GUI will state the USB speed at the lower left of the screen. The URL for driver support is www dot creative dot com/emu. Select Support, then 'E-MU 0204 USB 2.0' All of the above information, and more, is available on the telepostinc website. I followed Larry's instructions to the letter and was rewarded with a nice smooth result. If I may say so, LP-Bridge is amazing. Your mileage may vary, of course. That's computers for you : ) Bill, WA4KBD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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There well may be others that work well, but the Delta 44 has a long track record as one of the best and lots of info available and happy users. bill nr4c Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid -Original message- From: Ken Roberson kwrober...@yahoo.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 15:22:18 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards Hello ALL, Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44? I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards, Will any of those cards work? I don’t need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine. OFF line would be fine Thanks for your help Ken K5DNL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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The Creative Labs EMU-0202 and -0204 seem to have a following too. Matt Zilmer, W6NIA In status quo voluntas non sufficit -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Conkling Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:18 AM To: Ken Roberson; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards There well may be others that work well, but the Delta 44 has a long track record as one of the best and lots of info available and happy users. bill nr4c Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid -Original message- From: Ken Roberson kwrober...@yahoo.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 15:22:18 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards Hello ALL, Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44? I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards, Will any of those cards work? I don’t need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine. OFF line would be fine Thanks for your help Ken K5DNL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Those two don't work very well with Win 7 though. 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters k...@kq8m.com AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Zilmer Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:19 PM To: Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards The Creative Labs EMU-0202 and -0204 seem to have a following too. Matt Zilmer, W6NIA In status quo voluntas non sufficit -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Conkling Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:18 AM To: Ken Roberson; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards There well may be others that work well, but the Delta 44 has a long track record as one of the best and lots of info available and happy users. bill nr4c Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid -Original message- From: Ken Roberson kwrober...@yahoo.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 15:22:18 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards Hello ALL, Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44? I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards, Will any of those cards work? I don’t need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine. OFF line would be fine Thanks for your help Ken K5DNL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Thanks for that, Tim. I'm still using XP. No worries with that o/s. Matt Zilmer, W6NIA In status quo voluntas non sufficit -Original Message- From: KQ8M [mailto:k...@kq8m.com] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:34 AM To: Matthew Zilmer; 'Bill Conkling'; 'Ken Roberson'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards Those two don't work very well with Win 7 though. 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters k...@kq8m.com AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Zilmer Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:19 PM To: Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards The Creative Labs EMU-0202 and -0204 seem to have a following too. Matt Zilmer, W6NIA In status quo voluntas non sufficit -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Conkling Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:18 AM To: Ken Roberson; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards There well may be others that work well, but the Delta 44 has a long track record as one of the best and lots of info available and happy users. bill nr4c Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid -Original message- From: Ken Roberson kwrober...@yahoo.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 15:22:18 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards Hello ALL, Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44? I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards, Will any of those cards work? I don’t need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine. OFF line would be fine Thanks for your help Ken K5DNL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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The Delta 44 has low internal noise making it it ideal for an SDR. 73, Barry K3NDM On 8/30/2012 11:22 AM, Ken Roberson wrote: Hello ALL, Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44? I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards, Will any of those cards work? I don’t need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine. OFF line would be fine Thanks for your help Ken K5DNL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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I don't believe that the M-Audio Delta 44 has been available for quite some time ... I'm pretty sure it has been discontinued. M-Audio does make other cards, though. N8LP (the guy who makes the LP-Pan) has a page on his website that shows the results he got with a few of the better currently available sound cards. Go to www.telepostinc.com and click on the Sound Card Page link at the left hand side of the page. I think he has also tested some other cards (including some fairly expensive ones) that are not shown on that page, most of which have poor performance or some other deficiency that would exclude them from serious consideration for SDR purposes. When in doubt, ask. I know he reads this reflector, and there is also one on Yahoo dedicated to the LP-Pan. 73, Dave AB7E On 8/30/2012 8:22 AM, Ken Roberson wrote: Hello ALL, Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44? I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards, Will any of those cards work? I don’t need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine. OFF line would be fine Thanks for your help Ken K5DNL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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That is really not true. The 0204 is Win7 compatible out of the box (or at least claims to be, I don't own one). The 0202 has beta drivers for Win7 that have been working just fine for me on Win7 Ultimate 64 bit for over a year now and I just picked up another for portable operation and loaded the drivers on a netbook running Win7 Starter 32 bit. So yes, the drivers won't automagically load, but it took me about 5 minutes to find, download the drivers (and that includes working around a server error on Creative's server) and install them. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:33 AM, KQ8M k...@kq8m.com wrote: Those two don't work very well with Win 7 though. 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters k...@kq8m.com AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Zilmer Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:19 PM To: Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards The Creative Labs EMU-0202 and -0204 seem to have a following too. Matt Zilmer, W6NIA In status quo voluntas non sufficit -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Conkling Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:18 AM To: Ken Roberson; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards There well may be others that work well, but the Delta 44 has a long track record as one of the best and lots of info available and happy users. bill nr4c Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid -Original message- From: Ken Roberson kwrober...@yahoo.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 15:22:18 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards Hello ALL, Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44? I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards, Will any of those cards work? I don’t need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine. OFF line would be fine Thanks for your help Ken K5DNL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html__ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Jim K0XU j...@rhodesend.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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I'm sorry but it is true. I have 2 0204's and neither work for crap on Win 7. I have been on Creative's forums and read all of the big audiophile's that used the 0204 on XP but cannot get it to work worth dung on Vista or Win 7. I have tried. Go to Creative's website and see if you can download drivers for an 0204 for ANY Windows platform! 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters k...@kq8m.com AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 From: Jim Rhodes [mailto:jimk...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:21 PM To: KQ8M Cc: Matthew Zilmer; Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards That is really not true. The 0204 is Win7 compatible out of the box (or at least claims to be, I don't own one). The 0202 has beta drivers for Win7 that have been working just fine for me on Win7 Ultimate 64 bit for over a year now and I just picked up another for portable operation and loaded the drivers on a netbook running Win7 Starter 32 bit. So yes, the drivers won't automagically load, but it took me about 5 minutes to find, download the drivers (and that includes working around a server error on Creative's server) and install them. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:33 AM, KQ8M k...@kq8m.com wrote: Those two don't work very well with Win 7 though. 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters k...@kq8m.com AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Zilmer Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:19 PM To: Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards The Creative Labs EMU-0202 and -0204 seem to have a following too. Matt Zilmer, W6NIA In status quo voluntas non sufficit -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Conkling Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:18 AM To: Ken Roberson; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards There well may be others that work well, but the Delta 44 has a long track record as one of the best and lots of info available and happy users. bill nr4c Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid -Original message- From: Ken Roberson kwrober...@yahoo.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 15:22:18 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards Hello ALL, Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44? I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards, Will any of those cards work? I don't need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine. OFF line would be fine Thanks for your help Ken K5DNL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Jim K0XU j...@rhodesend.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards
K5DNL wrote Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44? I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards, Will any of those cards work? I don’t need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine. OFF line would be fine See N8LP's excellent summary for sound cards actually tested by him with LP-PAN: http://www.telepostinc.com/soundcards.html PCI is actually preferable if CPU usage is an issue. I use the Audiophile 2496 with an old 2.8G Pentium 4 XP and CPU usage is typically 20-30% running CW Skimmer and N1MM in contests. 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/SDR-Sound-Cards-tp7561844p7561863.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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The 2496 works very well on Win 7 also. Asus Xonar Essence ST's and DG's also work very well with XP and 7. Yes, I am using all of them. I have 4 computers, each running 3 soundcards each. 3 XP's and a Win 7. They are being used with SDR-IQ, SoftRock receivers and also a K3 with LP-Pan. Using CWSkimmer with all. 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters k...@kq8m.com AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill W4ZV Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:51 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards K5DNL wrote Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44? I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards, Will any of those cards work? I don’t need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine. OFF line would be fine See N8LP's excellent summary for sound cards actually tested by him with LP-PAN: http://www.telepostinc.com/soundcards.html PCI is actually preferable if CPU usage is an issue. I use the Audiophile 2496 with an old 2.8G Pentium 4 XP and CPU usage is typically 20-30% running CW Skimmer and N1MM in contests. 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/SDR-Sound-Cards-tp7561844p7561863.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:33 AM, KQ8M k...@kq8m.com wrote: Those two don't work very well with Win 7... -- Actually the Emu 0202 works perfectly with Win 7. However, it is no longer made and in fact has not been made for quite a while. Apparently the 0204 does not work so well. For a lot of into about sound cards for SDR application, see the Yahoo Softrock group. There are many posts, some of which include bandwidth plots and other objective info. Tony KT0NY -- http://www.isb.edu/faculty/facultydir.aspx?ddlFaculty=352 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Well, I will stick with my 0202's anyway. When I was installing the second 0202 on my netbook this morning the installation software asked if I was installing an 0202 or an 0204. Of course I said an 0202. This is not the driver only package, but a whole installation set. Have not had a chance to plug a radio into it yet and I have to work all night, so will not have a chance until tomorrow morning when I get off. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 1:33 PM, KQ8M k...@kq8m.com wrote: I'm sorry but it is true. I have 2 0204's and neither work for crap on Win 7. I have been on Creative's forums and read all of the big audiophile's that used the 0204 on XP but cannot get it to work worth dung on Vista or Win 7. I have tried. Go to Creative's website and see if you can download drivers for an 0204 for ANY Windows platform! ** ** 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters k...@kq8m.com ** ** AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 ** ** *From:* Jim Rhodes [mailto:jimk...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:21 PM *To:* KQ8M *Cc:* Matthew Zilmer; Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; elecraft@mailman.qth.net *Subject:* Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards ** ** That is really not true. The 0204 is Win7 compatible out of the box (or at least claims to be, I don't own one). The 0202 has beta drivers for Win7 that have been working just fine for me on Win7 Ultimate 64 bit for over a year now and I just picked up another for portable operation and loaded the drivers on a netbook running Win7 Starter 32 bit. So yes, the drivers won't automagically load, but it took me about 5 minutes to find, download the drivers (and that includes working around a server error on Creative's server) and install them. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:33 AM, KQ8M k...@kq8m.com wrote: Those two don't work very well with Win 7 though. 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters k...@kq8m.com AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Zilmer Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:19 PM To: Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards The Creative Labs EMU-0202 and -0204 seem to have a following too. Matt Zilmer, W6NIA In status quo voluntas non sufficit -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Conkling Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:18 AM To: Ken Roberson; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards There well may be others that work well, but the Delta 44 has a long track record as one of the best and lots of info available and happy users. bill nr4c Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid -Original message- From: Ken Roberson kwrober...@yahoo.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 15:22:18 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards Hello ALL, Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44? I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards, Will any of those cards work? I don’t need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine. OFF line would be fine Thanks for your help Ken K5DNL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html__ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net
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I'm not sure what problems you're having, but the 0202 and 0204 in my tests perform better than any of adozen cards I have tested except the E-MU 1212m. The 0204 has the edge over the 0202 in terms of flexibility when it comes to win7/64. If you don't need 192kHz, I highly recommend the M-Audio Audiophile 2496 PCI card at $75. The ASUS cards are good at 96kHz, but fall apart at 192kHz. The Delta 44 was once the best card out there, and it's still decent, but I haven't used one in several years, whereas I have the others all still installed on my shack PC. 73, Larry N8LP KQ8M wrote I'm sorry but it is true. I have 2 0204's and neither work for crap on Win 7. I have been on Creative's forums and read all of the big audiophile's that used the 0204 on XP but cannot get it to work worth dung on Vista or Win 7. I have tried. Go to Creative's website and see if you can download drivers for an 0204 for ANY Windows platform! 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters kq8m@ AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 From: Jim Rhodes [mailto:jimk0xu@] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:21 PM To: KQ8M Cc: Matthew Zilmer; Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; elecraft@.qth Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards That is really not true. The 0204 is Win7 compatible out of the box (or at least claims to be, I don't own one). The 0202 has beta drivers for Win7 that have been working just fine for me on Win7 Ultimate 64 bit for over a year now and I just picked up another for portable operation and loaded the drivers on a netbook running Win7 Starter 32 bit. So yes, the drivers won't automagically load, but it took me about 5 minutes to find, download the drivers (and that includes working around a server error on Creative's server) and install them. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:33 AM, KQ8M lt;kq8m@gt; wrote: Those two don't work very well with Win 7 though. 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters kq8m@ AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 -Original Message- From: elecraft-bounces@.qth [mailto:elecraft-bounces@.qth] On Behalf Of Matthew Zilmer Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:19 PM To: Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; elecraft@.qth Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards The Creative Labs EMU-0202 and -0204 seem to have a following too. Matt Zilmer, W6NIA In status quo voluntas non sufficit -Original Message- From: elecraft-bounces@.qth [mailto:elecraft-bounces@.qth] On Behalf Of Bill Conkling Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:18 AM To: Ken Roberson; elecraft@.qth Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards There well may be others that work well, but the Delta 44 has a long track record as one of the best and lots of info available and happy users. bill nr4c Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid -Original message- From: Ken Roberson lt;kwroberson@gt; To: elecraft@.qth Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 15:22:18 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards Hello ALL, Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44? I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards, Will any of those cards work? I don't need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine. OFF line would be fine Thanks for your help Ken K5DNL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@.qth This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@.qth This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@.qth This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@.qth This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Jim K0XU jim
Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards
I'm sorry, Larry, but I have to totally disagree with you about the 0204. Yes, it works well on an XP machine but why have they only released beta drivers for it when it was first manufactured but have failed to build any newer drivers? Why is it you cannot download ANY drivers for this from their own website? I will search tomorrow but I will find the posts in Creative's own forums from people that used it in real hard core audio apps. The box snaps, crackles and pops and drops out. I could not even get it to work for longer than an hour on 96kHz. Yes, that is a HUGE complaint among the audiophiles. I do agree on the 2496. It is a very good stable card. I have found the ASUS cards to work pretty well also. The Xonar Essence and the Xonar DG have been running here very well for 6 months. I still have not been about to get the 1212m PCIe to work but have not spent a lot of time on it. It seems to me none of the creative cards work very well. They always have some sort of mirror image. I am judging these cards using CWSkimmer. With that application you cannot have any mirror image or it spots those mirror images erroneously. Most people can get away with mirror images that are down from the main signal as they would never know they are there. 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters k...@kq8m.com AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of N8LP Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 8:52 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards I'm not sure what problems you're having, but the 0202 and 0204 in my tests perform better than any of adozen cards I have tested except the E-MU 1212m. The 0204 has the edge over the 0202 in terms of flexibility when it comes to win7/64. If you don't need 192kHz, I highly recommend the M-Audio Audiophile 2496 PCI card at $75. The ASUS cards are good at 96kHz, but fall apart at 192kHz. The Delta 44 was once the best card out there, and it's still decent, but I haven't used one in several years, whereas I have the others all still installed on my shack PC. 73, Larry N8LP KQ8M wrote I'm sorry but it is true. I have 2 0204's and neither work for crap on Win 7. I have been on Creative's forums and read all of the big audiophile's that used the 0204 on XP but cannot get it to work worth dung on Vista or Win 7. I have tried. Go to Creative's website and see if you can download drivers for an 0204 for ANY Windows platform! 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters kq8m@ AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 From: Jim Rhodes [mailto:jimk0xu@] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:21 PM To: KQ8M Cc: Matthew Zilmer; Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; elecraft@.qth Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards That is really not true. The 0204 is Win7 compatible out of the box (or at least claims to be, I don't own one). The 0202 has beta drivers for Win7 that have been working just fine for me on Win7 Ultimate 64 bit for over a year now and I just picked up another for portable operation and loaded the drivers on a netbook running Win7 Starter 32 bit. So yes, the drivers won't automagically load, but it took me about 5 minutes to find, download the drivers (and that includes working around a server error on Creative's server) and install them. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:33 AM, KQ8M lt;kq8m@gt; wrote: Those two don't work very well with Win 7 though. 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters kq8m@ AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 -Original Message- From: elecraft-bounces@.qth [mailto:elecraft-bounces@.qth] On Behalf Of Matthew Zilmer Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:19 PM To: Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; elecraft@.qth Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards The Creative Labs EMU-0202 and -0204 seem to have a following too. Matt Zilmer, W6NIA In status quo voluntas non sufficit -Original Message- From: elecraft-bounces@.qth [mailto:elecraft-bounces@.qth] On Behalf Of Bill Conkling Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:18 AM To: Ken Roberson; elecraft@.qth Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards There well may be others that work well, but the Delta 44 has a long track record as one of the best and lots of info available and happy users. bill nr4c Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid -Original message- From: Ken Roberson lt;kwroberson@gt; To: elecraft@.qth Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 15:22:18 GMT+00:00
Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards
Umm, the EMU-0204 works just fine with Win7. I've used mine with the following and it worked flawlessly: SoftRock40 SoftRock Ensemble RX/TX Genesis G59 K3 with LP-Pan Currently, it is my main sound card as my on-board sound card audio output died. 73, Joel - W4JBB On 8/30/2012 11:33 AM, KQ8M wrote: Those two don't work very well with Win 7 though. 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters k...@kq8m.com AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Zilmer Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:19 PM To: Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards The Creative Labs EMU-0202 and -0204 seem to have a following too. Matt Zilmer, W6NIA In status quo voluntas non sufficit __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards
Tim, You're confusing the 0202 and the 0204. There are definitely Win7 drivers for the 0204 - I have them. They're included with the card when you buy it. I'm looking at them right now in my hand. They are in the envelope labeled Installation Kit. 73, Joel - W4JBB On 8/30/2012 8:14 PM, KQ8M wrote: I'm sorry, Larry, but I have to totally disagree with you about the 0204. Yes, it works well on an XP machine but why have they only released beta drivers for it when it was first manufactured but have failed to build any newer drivers? Why is it you cannot download ANY drivers for this from their own website? I will search tomorrow but I will find the posts in Creative's own forums from people that used it in real hard core audio apps. The box snaps, crackles and pops and drops out. I could not even get it to work for longer than an hour on 96kHz. Yes, that is a HUGE complaint among the audiophiles. I do agree on the 2496. It is a very good stable card. I have found the ASUS cards to work pretty well also. The Xonar Essence and the Xonar DG have been running here very well for 6 months. I still have not been about to get the 1212m PCIe to work but have not spent a lot of time on it. It seems to me none of the creative cards work very well. They always have some sort of mirror image. I am judging these cards using CWSkimmer. With that application you cannot have any mirror image or it spots those mirror images erroneously. Most people can get away with mirror images that are down from the main signal as they would never know they are there. 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters k...@kq8m.com AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of N8LP Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 8:52 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards I'm not sure what problems you're having, but the 0202 and 0204 in my tests perform better than any of adozen cards I have tested except the E-MU 1212m. The 0204 has the edge over the 0202 in terms of flexibility when it comes to win7/64. If you don't need 192kHz, I highly recommend the M-Audio Audiophile 2496 PCI card at $75. The ASUS cards are good at 96kHz, but fall apart at 192kHz. The Delta 44 was once the best card out there, and it's still decent, but I haven't used one in several years, whereas I have the others all still installed on my shack PC. 73, Larry N8LP KQ8M wrote I'm sorry but it is true. I have 2 0204's and neither work for crap on Win 7. I have been on Creative's forums and read all of the big audiophile's that used the 0204 on XP but cannot get it to work worth dung on Vista or Win 7. I have tried. Go to Creative's website and see if you can download drivers for an 0204 for ANY Windows platform! 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters kq8m@ AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 From: Jim Rhodes [mailto:jimk0xu@] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:21 PM To: KQ8M Cc: Matthew Zilmer; Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; elecraft@.qth Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards That is really not true. The 0204 is Win7 compatible out of the box (or at least claims to be, I don't own one). The 0202 has beta drivers for Win7 that have been working just fine for me on Win7 Ultimate 64 bit for over a year now and I just picked up another for portable operation and loaded the drivers on a netbook running Win7 Starter 32 bit. So yes, the drivers won't automagically load, but it took me about 5 minutes to find, download the drivers (and that includes working around a server error on Creative's server) and install them. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:33 AM, KQ8M lt;kq8m@gt; wrote: Those two don't work very well with Win 7 though. 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters kq8m@ AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 -Original Message- From: elecraft-bounces@.qth [mailto:elecraft-bounces@.qth] On Behalf Of Matthew Zilmer Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:19 PM To: Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; elecraft@.qth Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards The Creative Labs EMU-0202 and -0204 seem to have a following too. Matt Zilmer, W6NIA In status quo voluntas non sufficit -Original Message- From: elecraft-bounces@.qth [mailto:elecraft-bounces@.qth] On Behalf Of Bill Conkling Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:18 AM To: Ken Roberson; elecraft@.qth Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards
