Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: We're dieing out here... Doesn't anyone have one yet???
In a recent message, Julian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ... ---k5hsv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have their K3 yet and able to give some information regarding pros and cons to the rig. I've read the three write ups on eHam but would love to her one of these rigs up and running. Someone please post some word on this rig. Believe me, I'm just dying to get my hands on the one I ordered, so that I could. Julian, G4ILO It shouldn't be long now, Julian. I see that the 2nd production run is due to commence despatch on 19th November, so presumably all those ordered for the 1st production run will have been despatched before then. 73 -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK -- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Elecraft_K3/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Elecraft_K3/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: We're dieing out here... Doesn't anyone have one yet???
I think the aim is to be 101% sure that there are no shipping problems before sending outside the US Canada as the aggro for non-NA customers is greater due to customs etc. FWIW I have now paid in full so maybe there's a box in the post for little old me, but like many others I am happy to wait. I will soon have a http://usinterface.com/ navigator to use with my K3. Simon Brown, HB9DRV - Original Message - From: phm7744 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Judging by the S/Ns posted so far (# 27 - (excluding the oddball #66)) for over 3 weeks of shipping it seems they are only gettting a couple a units per day shipped. Ramp up appears to be moving slowly so we'll need to practice some extreme patience. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Elecraft_K3/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Elecraft_K3/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: We're dieing out here... Doesn't anyone have one yet???
It has a stonking soundcard, K1EL, FSK UART and nice bug knobs on the front. Simon Brown, HB9DRV - Original Message - From: Julian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why will you need this interface thingy? I thought that with the K3 a standard serial cable and audio leads is all that will be necessary. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Elecraft_K3/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Elecraft_K3/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: We're dieing out here... Doesn't anyone have one yet???
Well . . . maybe. I haven't seen the run 2 dates revised as the run 1 dates have been slipping away. I suspect they are having problems receiving a critical component that they are happy with. Could be anything from a critical board component to an acceptable front panel. I'm not excusing what's going on, but being from a manufacturing background - the most common cause of delays is having a problem with a supplier (just like we're experiencing) and being reluctant to hand out any more promises and guesses until having solid info from he supplier that can be broadcast. In this case hollow promises based on bad info is a lot more harmful than a simple we have a problem and we're not ready to declare a resolve. I received an e-mail on 10/14 stating I'd be shipped within two weeks. Aside from the 14th being a Sunday, unless it arrives today I'd say there's a problem that We all can only wait on. I'd expect a statement from E as soon as they have something they consider reliable info. Al WA6VNN? 'p -Original Message- From: David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 3:23 am Subject: Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: We're dieing out here... Doesn't anyone have one yet??? In a recent message, Julian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ... --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], k5hsv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have their K3 yet and able to give some information regarding pros and cons to the rig. I've read the three write ups on eHam but would love to her one of these rigs up and running. Someone please post some word on this rig. Believe me, I'm just dying to get my hands on the one I ordered, so that I could. Julian, G4ILO I shouldn't be long now, Julian. I see that the 2nd production run is due to commence despatch on 19th November, so presumably all those ordered for the 1st production run will have been despatched before then. 73 David G4DMP Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: We're dieing out here... Doesn't anyone have one yet???
At 11:40 AM 10/31/2007, you wrote: I'm not excusing what's going on, but being from a manufacturing background - the most common cause of delays is having a problem with a supplier (just like we're experiencing) and being reluctant to hand out any more promises and guesses until having solid info from he supplier that can be broadcast. In this case hollow promises based on bad info is a lot more harmful than a simple we have a problem and we're not ready to declare a resolve. Based on your backgroundhow did your operation handle this type of problem? Did you give hopeful status reports, try to mask the problem, or simply remain mum? 73, Thom k3hrn Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Elecraft_K3/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Elecraft_K3/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: We're dieing out here... Doesn't anyone have one yet???
Good morning everyone. I don't post on these lists because most times I don't feel qualified to offer viable information in most areas. However in a manufacturing environment in a major US corporation in which I'm still very active and to a certain level qualified, supplier issues plague us and in turn our customers. All it takes is a hiccup in the supply chain to cause delivery issues from that point down stream. All of this becomes very visible in a Lean Manufacturing operational philosophy. Whenever we are unable to meet delivery dates due to supplier issues for whatever reason we notify our customers the orders are going to be late then bow our heads and take the beating we know is coming. In the end the customers even if unhappy are glad we communicated the delay so they can formulate their own customer response if needed. 73 de Ed N0EHQ --- Thom LaCosta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 11:40 AM 10/31/2007, you wrote: I'm not excusing what's going on, but being from a manufacturing background - the most common cause of delays is having a problem with a supplier (just like we're experiencing) and being reluctant to hand out any more promises and guesses until having solid info from he supplier that can be broadcast. In this case hollow promises based on bad info is a lot more harmful than a simple we have a problem and we're not ready to declare a resolve. Based on your backgroundhow did your operation handle this type of problem? Did you give hopeful status reports, try to mask the problem, or simply remain mum? 73, Thom k3hrn __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Elecraft_K3/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Elecraft_K3/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: We're dieing out here... Doesn't anyone have one yet???
I totally agree, Julian. I've always had an outstanding opion of Elecraft, not so much because they are fellow hams, but because they have always had great products and excellent, speedy service. All the more reason why I find it so incredible that they have been so uncommuicative regarding K3 status. I am one of those who signed up fairly early (Apr 30) and put down half the price to be in the first group of 200. I really expected that there might be some delays in the beginning, considering the complexity of this project. Now I am really frustrated by the total lack of information on what is going on at Aptos and what we all can expect with regard to the K3 delivery schedule. Two weeks ago I called and was promised that I would be seeing an invoice by the end of that week (10/22). Alas, nothing has been heard. I hate to keep calling them since I assume they're really busy, but I wonder. Come on, Elecraft -- how much trouble would it be to give us all a little blurb on what's going on? Or even explain in more detail just why the great silence from Aptos. Can you imagine how we who are waiting feel when the field testers brag about all the nice things their new K3 can do, and the rest of us sit here without a clue? Van, W1WCG K2 2634, 5510 KX1 306 K3 ? ? ? I understand what you're saying, but Elecraft has a lot of goodwill from its customers that is being eroded by the current lack of information. I was always willing to cut them some slack due to the fact that they are fellow hams, I don't believe they intended to have these problems, that things do go wrong that are outside your control and perhaps the scale of the K3 project (and the demand for it) has caused problems they didn't anticipate. But that was because of their track record and the fact that they were open with us in providing information on the reflector. I'd be happier if they told us what the problem is, and what the realistic effect on shipping dates is. Perhaps it is something they'd rather not have published on a public reflector. However, they have entered in to a contract with all of us who have placed orders, so I think we are entitled to have information. It really ought not to have been necessary for people to contact Lisa to find out what little we have. They have our email addresses. Aren't people who are willing to put down $1000 or more as a deposit months in advance valued customers? Julian, G4ILO Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Elecraft_K3/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Elecraft_K3/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: We're dieing out here... Doesn't anyone have one yet???
When did you order it Al? On 31/10/07 15:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: I received an e-mail on 10/14 stating I'd be shipped within two weeks. Aside from the 14th being a Sunday, unless it arrives today I'd say there's a problem that We all can only wait on. I'd expect a statement from E as soon as they have something they consider reliable info. Al WA6VNN? 'p -- Natural ability without education has more often attained to glory and virtue than education without natural ability. -Cicero, statesman, orator, writer (106-43 BC) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Elecraft_K3/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Elecraft_K3/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: We're dieing out here... Doesn't anyone have one yet???
Open and honest answers served on a plate of humble pie.? In my case it was usually a tutorial on lessons learned.? The ability to keep clients updated on a current basis has a lot to do with the size of the organization. I had a staff that could keep up and I usually only had one customer to deal with, making it my job to be reporting on a daily basis. I guess I had a vision of what to expect, and haven't been too disturbed by the process. I also believe that Aptos may modify the plan for the next roll-out. I'd fully understand. What have I seen that I still feel good about - 1. I got to order a hot item before getting second best because I had a chance to see it going to press. 2. I didn't find out about K3 after spending a lot on next best last month. 3. My faith in Elecraft never waivered and is soon to be rewarded. 4. Slow reports but no BS. I have received timely notices via e-mail - without checking up. I think you may all see a two week notice. 5. I feel good that I'll get a quality piece of hardware with no excuses or recalls with apologies. Anyone bought a $46,000 car lately? Al WA6VNN -Original Message- From: Thom LaCosta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 8:52 am Subject: Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: We're dieing out here... Doesn't anyone have one yet??? At 11:40 AM 10/31/2007, you wrote: I'm not excusing what's going on, but being from a manufacturing background - the most common cause of delays is having a problem with a supplier (just like we're experiencing) and being reluctant to hand out any more promises and guesses until having solid info from he supplier that can be broadcast. In this case hollow promises based on bad info is a lot more harmful than a simple we have a problem and we're not ready to declare a resolve. Based on your backgroundhow did your operation handle this type of problem? Did you give hopeful status reports, try to mask the problem, or simply remain mum? 73, Thom k3hrn Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: We're dieing out here... Doesn't anyone have one yet???
On 31 Oct 2007 at 15:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone bought a $46,000 car lately? What the heck has that got to do with it?? But anyway, Yes! I ordered my car from Japan, built to my specifications. It was delivered to my door, direct from Japan, 3 1/2 weeks later. What does that have to do with Aptos delivery/quality control/production problems??? - Dave G KK7SS Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Elecraft_K3/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Elecraft_K3/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: We're dieing out here... Doesn't anyone have one yet???
Besides. You could have all purchased an Ft-2000. I did. OUCH! I'll be waiting to buy the K3. I'm sure it will be worth the wait. Randy K8RDD - Original Message - From: Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: We're dieing out here... Doesn't anyone have one yet??? And keep in mind that this is a time when they're getting the stream started. There's less history available, so determining the proper lead times is difficult. 73, doug From: ed palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:26:32 -0700 (PDT) Good morning everyone. I don't post on these lists because most times I don't feel qualified to offer viable information in most areas. However in a manufacturing environment in a major US corporation in which I'm still very active and to a certain level qualified, supplier issues plague us and in turn our customers. All it takes is a hiccup in the supply chain to cause delivery issues from that point down stream. All of this becomes very visible in a Lean Manufacturing operational philosophy. Whenever we are unable to meet delivery dates due to supplier issues for whatever reason we notify our customers the orders are going to be late then bow our heads and take the beating we know is coming. In the end the customers even if unhappy are glad we communicated the delay so they can formulate their own customer response if needed. 73 de Ed N0EHQ
RE: [Elecraft_K3] Re: We're dieing out here... Doesn't anyone have one yet???
Gentlemen, if there was EVER a time to cut a reputable manufacture some slack, now is the time to do so. You have all been told honestly what the manufacturing problems are and what is being done to overcome them. Take heart that you will get a great radio, and if something does not work, they will do a Yomans job to make it right. Beside, how would you like to be in the position of buying a brand new radio line, only to have some serious problems arrise, and the manufacture does very little to fix them? I won't name the manufactures name but I bought such a transceiver, and a whole lot of us are trying valiently, but nearly innefectively, to get them to live up to their advertized claims for this radio. I am seriouly looking at the Elecraft K3 now, and when some of you start posting reports about its performance, I know this group will be truthful, and thorough. 73 Tom - AB5ZJ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:51:47 -0700Subject: Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: We're dieing out here... Doesn't anyone have one yet??? On 31 Oct 2007 at 15:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone bought a $46,000 car lately?What the heck has that got to do with it??But anyway, Yes! I ordered my car from Japan, built to my specifications.It was delivered to my door, direct from Japan, 3 1/2 weeks later.What does that have to do with Aptos delivery/quality control/production problems???-Dave GKK7SS _ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us
Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: We're dieing out here... Doesn't anyone have one yet???
Tom; I also bought an Ft you know what. I'll keep it for the looks. It is prettier than the K3. But I'm buying a K3 to play. Randy K8RDD - Original Message - From: Tom Phillips To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 5:01 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft_K3] Re: We're dieing out here... Doesn't anyone have one yet??? Gentlemen, if there was EVER a time to cut a reputable manufacture some slack, now is the time to do so. You have all been told honestly what the manufacturing problems are and what is being done to overcome them. Take heart that you will get a great radio, and if something does not work, they will do a Yomans job to make it right. Beside, how would you like to be in the position of buying a brand new radio line, only to have some serious problems arrise, and the manufacture does very little to fix them? I won't name the manufactures name but I bought such a transceiver, and a whole lot of us are trying valiently, but nearly innefectively, to get them to live up to their advertized claims for this radio. I am seriouly looking at the Elecraft K3 now, and when some of you start posting reports about its performance, I know this group will be truthful, and thorough. 73 Tom - AB5ZJ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:51:47 -0700 Subject: Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: We're dieing out here... Doesn't anyone have one yet??? On 31 Oct 2007 at 15:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone bought a $46,000 car lately? What the heck has that got to do with it?? But anyway, Yes! I ordered my car from Japan, built to my specifications. It was delivered to my door, direct from Japan, 3 1/2 weeks later. What does that have to do with Aptos delivery/quality control/production problems??? - Dave G KK7SS -- Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks Treats for You! Get 'em!
