Re: [Emc-users] Plasma Torch Height Control

2007-10-05 Thread John Thornton
Jarl,

Thanks for the info. Am I correct in assuming that from the hardware
end using your plasma-thc that I only need to supply a raise or lower
to EMC to make it work?

My current thoughts are to use a voltage divider from the plasma
voltage out pins to reduce the voltage to a 0 to 10vdc range and use
that as an analog input to a plc. Based on the voltage setting in the plc
supply a raise contact or a lower contact. Or continue to pulse up or down
as a hand wheel would till the desired voltage is obtained. If HAL can ignore
this during cornering it should work???

Thanks
John

On 4 Oct 2007 at 7:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 To elaborate on what Alex posted:
 
 dallur-thc is an old version of a gantry based plasma config which
 uses classicladder and has basic functionality.
 
 plasma-thc is a newer version which only uses HAL and has things like
 corner height lock, realtime adjustable cutting height and more.
 
 plasma-thc-sim is a simulator config which should enable you to run
 the system without the hardware.
 
 The logic diagram for plasma-thc is maintained in an open office
 diagram which can be found in the plasma-thc config directory.
 http://cvs.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/emc2/configs/pla
 sma-thc/
 
 
 Regards
 
 Jarl (dallur and rugludallur)



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Re: [Emc-users] Oh man, my home is broke...

2007-10-05 Thread Jon Elson
Patrick Ferrick wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Well,  I've gone and added a rotary axis to my xyz-minimill, and I've 
 managed to break my nice homing sequence.   As it turns out, I guess I 
 don't understand homing as well as I thought I did, because I can't 
 figure out the following situation:
Yes, it has re-established the coordinate system that was set on 
the machine the last time you used it.  If you had a part 
feature that was set to 3.00 inches from the home position last 
time, then that coordinate alignment is set up again, until you 
change it.  You cahnge it with the touch off button, and set 
some machine position to whatever alignment you now need for the 
next part.

It works this way so you can do production work from one day to 
the next without having to use an edge finder or some other 
procedure to locate your coordinate system every time you turn 
EMC on.

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] Oh man, my home is broke...

2007-10-05 Thread Andre' Blanchard

Which coordinate system do you have the Axis display set to, machine or the 
work offsets?
Sounds like it is displaying relative to the work offset (G54) and you have 
a +3 inch offset of the Y axis.

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[Emc-users] Max Speed

2007-10-05 Thread John Thornton
I have a CNC4PC C1G parallel port interface card driving a Gecko 203v.
I have a 28vdc power supply and I am running the stepper without any
load just to get my configs setup... The highest velocity I can get is about
70 as reported on the Axis screen no matter what I set F at.
If I do a MDI G1 F100 X10 orG1 F400 X10
I get the same velocity reported of about 70.

If i do a G1 F50 X10 I get the expected velocity of about 50
If I do a G1 F25 X10 I get the expected velocity of about 25

I've ran the latencey test on the machine and used the spreadsheet to 
figure out what to set the base period at.

My config is:
BASE_PERIOD =15000

DEFAULT_VELOCITY = 0.0167
MAX_VELOCITY = 7.0
DEFAULT_ACCELERATION =  15.0
MAX_ACCELERATION =  20.0

My Axis is:

MAX_ACCELERATION =   2.0
STEPGEN_MAXVEL =   7
STEPGEN_MAXACCEL =  2.1
BACKLASH = 0.000
INPUT_SCALE =  3000
OUTPUT_SCALE =   1.000
MIN_LIMIT =-100.0
MAX_LIMIT =100.0
FERROR =0.050
MIN_FERROR =   0.010

When I run tests the drive turns the correct number of 
turns per inch (1.5) so I'm reasoning that I have the scale
correct...

Any tips on where to start looking would be a big help...


Thanks
John

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Re: [Emc-users] Max Speed

2007-10-05 Thread Sam Sokolik
in your axis section - it seems your missing
MAX_VELOCITY  =  6.7

(you want some stepgen headroom.)

sam

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Subject: [Emc-users] Max Speed


I have a CNC4PC C1G parallel port interface card driving a Gecko 203v.
 I have a 28vdc power supply and I am running the stepper without any
 load just to get my configs setup... The highest velocity I can get is 
 about
 70 as reported on the Axis screen no matter what I set F at.
 If I do a MDI G1 F100 X10 or G1 F400 X10
 I get the same velocity reported of about 70.

 If i do a G1 F50 X10 I get the expected velocity of about 50
 If I do a G1 F25 X10 I get the expected velocity of about 25

 I've ran the latencey test on the machine and used the spreadsheet to
 figure out what to set the base period at.

 My config is:
 BASE_PERIOD =15000

 DEFAULT_VELOCITY = 0.0167
 MAX_VELOCITY = 7.0
 DEFAULT_ACCELERATION =  15.0
 MAX_ACCELERATION =  20.0

 My Axis is:

 MAX_ACCELERATION =   2.0
 STEPGEN_MAXVEL =   7
 STEPGEN_MAXACCEL =  2.1
 BACKLASH = 0.000
 INPUT_SCALE =  3000
 OUTPUT_SCALE =   1.000
 MIN_LIMIT =-100.0
 MAX_LIMIT =100.0
 FERROR =0.050
 MIN_FERROR =   0.010

 When I run tests the drive turns the correct number of
 turns per inch (1.5) so I'm reasoning that I have the scale
 correct...

 Any tips on where to start looking would be a big help...


 Thanks
 John

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[Emc-users] stepper motors?

2007-10-05 Thread Alfred Smart
 I have 1980 vintage wells index knee mill,
I have retro to emc2 from bandit using gecko's microstep 10x
using original power supply 45vdc and 2 original motors and one that is newer 
but came with the machine.
2 sigma instruments and one rapidsyn dana, all are nema 42 
The sigma's have no spec's and I can't uncover the spec's, and the rapidsyn 
rate the amps at 7.5.
The gecko's are running wide open 7 amps, unipoler motors wired half winding.
the sigma motor's seem tired and don't have much detent at all and rapidsyn has 
plenty.
When I run a program like the spiral.nrg the sigma motor will stall in the 
change of direction part of the interpolation.
It doesn't seem to stall when jogging at slow speed or rapid motion.
max_volosity .65
max_acceleration 3.0
could these motor's need more current or are they used up
There is some talk about repair, anyone with any experience with this ave.
Wells quoted me $495. for used motors, I think I'll look elsewhere.
Wondering what the people on the list think?
 Thanks again Al
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Re: [Emc-users] Mach development (was Re: Desktop CNC Website Information)

2007-10-05 Thread Jon Elson
Moses McKnight wrote:
 Jon Elson wrote:
 
Peter Homann wrote:

Hi Jon,

You may want to ask Art to have another look. These days there are plug-ins 
that are written that talk to various type of hardware. You would probably 
have
 to write the plug-in yourself with Arts help.

I talked to him at the CNC Workshop, and he sounded pretty positive about it. 
 I emailed him later to see if he had any general recommendations to start, 
and
 never got anything back. Now that he's retiring, that may be the end of it.  
 I STILL have not even been able to find out what software I need to buy to 
become a developer.  I've been trying to solve thaty puzzle for a couple 
years, now.

Jon
 
 
 
 If you're talking about developing plugins for mach all you need is Visual 
 Studio C++ .NET 2003 and the Mach SDK. I work with Tom at CandCNC and have 
 written a
 couple plugins for our
 hardware.
OK, thanks for the clarification!  I got an earlier version of 
Visual Studio, before the .net thing.  I will look into it.

Thanks again,

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] stepper motors?

2007-10-05 Thread John Kasunich
Stephen Wille Padnos wrote:
 Alfred Smart wrote:

 The gecko's are running wide open 7 amps, unipoler motors wired half 
 winding.
 
 Are you sure those are unipolar motors?  The geckos are bipolar drives, 
 and I don't see how they could work with unipolar motors.
 

Five wire unipolar motors can't be used with Gecko drives, but six wire
ones can (two center tapped windings).  You can run full winding 
(equivalent to series connection on an 8-wire motor) or half winding.
You can't do the equivalent of 8-wire parallel though.

Regards,

John Kasunich

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