[Emc-users] VFD Noise
Hello, I have 3 axis machine I am working on that has a Teco FM50-202-C drive to control the spindle. The drive is a 220V drive. I am using single phase into the drive. 2 HP 3 phase spindle motor. My plan is to use an arduino to control a few accessories on the machine. Noise from the drive is locking the arduino up. I am using a 12v switching power supply to power the arduino. The drive and arduino are in the same electrical box right now. I am thinking of removing the drive and placing it in it's own box. I have checked all my grounds and they seem ok. Has anyone seen this before? I know VFD's are noisy devices. Looking for any advice to quickly eliminate the problem. Thanks, Mike -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122412 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] VFD Noise
Thank you, all the suggestions are good advice. I will attempt as many as I can to get the problem solved starting with a enclosure just for the VFD. This will also allow me to isolate the 220v. The main control box can all be powered with 110v. Are VFD's less noisy if they are fed 3 phase? I would think they might be because of the switching needed to generate the 3rd phase if only fed single phase? Thanks, Mike -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122412 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Hardinge HCNC Retrofit/Rebuild
The cuttoff slide was air over hydrolic to make it move smoother, just?get rid of it and use a cut off for a lathe that way you can put a little chamfer on the OD before you part off. I will do that. Collet closer is air.Hope you have the solenoids for it because they keep the collet closed after the air is released.There is alot of o-rings inside the closer so if the machine has been sitting for a while start putting a few drops of air tool oil down the tubes on the closer every day till you are done with the rest of the machine. Also good advice. I have not tested the closer yet so I will start getting oil in it today. My spindle motor is 5 hp but 3 would be ok if your diameters dont get too big and feedrates stay conservative. I don't have a motor yet so I will go with a 5HP... definitely rules out my servo. Mike -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Hardinge HCNC Retrofit/Rebuild
Hello, If anyone is interested I posted some picture of my HCNC project machine. I have started the retro rebuild process. Warning: the pictures my be disturbing to some machine lovers because of all the missing parts...:) http://www.conesusmachinetool.com/1/post/2012/04/hardinge-hcnc-lathe-rebuildretrofit.html Because of the parts I am missing I am going to try to use a DC motor (as suggest by someone on the IRC) or a stepper motor in place of the missing air motor on the tool changer. I am going to start there. I have the axis motors but not sure if I will use them yet. I can just as easily replace them. I am leaning toward Gecko servo drives so if I go that way I will probably replace them because of the voltage limit on those drives. I need a spindle motor. I have a PacSci AC servo motor (1.35KW) and drive. I have not run the numbers to see if it would be a good choice. My gut feeling is that it might be on the small side. If it is I will probably go to a 3phase 3HP with VFD? Not sure what HP it came with. Will build a custom enclosure similar to the mill enclosures I make. I also have the coolant tank and pump and one of the pictures shows a hydraulic panel? I have the over spindle mounted cut off slide? Was that hydraulic? It looks like the collet closer was pneumatic? I will update the blog as I make progress. I appreciate the feedback and help I have gotten so far and hopefully something from this project will benefit others in the future. Oh and of course it will be controlled by LinuxCNC... Mike -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] live backplot clear from G code?
Hello, Is it possible to clear the live backplot at the start of part program from the part program? I am using Axis. Thanks, Mike -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] live backplot clear from G code?
OK, just tried it on a real machine, and it worked fine. So, in the directory referenced by PROGRAM_PREFIX in your INI file, (probably home/emc2/nc_files) create a text file containing the following lines. #!/bin/sh axis-remote --clear exit 0 Then save that file with the filename M101 (no suffix) Then give that file execute properties (in the file browser, right-click, properties, permissions flag, tick the execute tickbox) You probably need to restart EMC2 if it is open. Then, any time your Gcode contains M101, that file will be called, and will clear the screen. I checked it, and it worked. Andy thanks for the quick response. I tried this but it did not work on my system. I am running Axis ver 2.3.5 could that have anything to do with it? I did not get any faults, it just executed the code but did not clear. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] live backplot clear from G code?
Andy thanks for the quick response. I tried this but it did not work on my system. I am running Axis ver 2.3.5 could that have anything to do with it? I did not get any faults, it just executed the code but did not clear. I think that is the problem. I ran the lines individually from a terminal window and the --clear is not available. Then ran --help and that verified it. I will update Axis then I am sure it will work work. Thanks again. Mike -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Charge Pump on PMDX-131
Hello, I am attempting to get the charge pump on a PMDX-131 working. I have had this board for years and am just getting around to trying to get this working. I have a charge pump output setup on pin 17 as described in the PMDX-131 manual. Because I was unable to get this to work I also attempted to use a CNC4PC external charge pump board through a PMDX-131 output (Pin 16). This did not work either. I used Halscope to watch the output pin signal and I am getting a signal from EMC2 as expected (at least internally). I then hooked an oscilliscope to the output and did not get a matching signal. I have no signal at all. I connected the CNC4PC charge pump to a signal generator and it worked as advertised. I also have a spindle motor working through PMDX output 1 relay K1. Has anyone used the charge pump on the PMDX-131 with EMC2 successfully? Is there anything obvious that I am missing? My thought is that maybe the buffer on the PMDX can't handle the HZ. I am basing the signal off my servo thread and have manipulated that up and down to but see no output. I changed parallel port cables also. Thanks, Mike -- What Every C/C++ and Fortran developer Should Know! Read this article and learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools to help Windows* and Linux* C/C++ and Fortran developers boost performance applications - including clusters. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Charge Pump on PMDX-131
If you cannot see the signal on pin 17 of your parallel port using an real oscilloscope, then you may have issues with your HAL file bringing the signal to the actual output pin. If I can see a signal on halscope what in my hal file would prevent it from occurring on the physical I/O? My axis work perfectly. The only difference I can see is in hardware. My i/o pin through the hal file is linked to the servo thread not the base thread. Also based on the halscope scaling I believe my pulses are within the 100 to 10kHz range. I have tried multiple thread rates to manipulate that value with no luck. Coincidentally I don't see a upper limit on PMDX-131 in the manual. They do however specify the 100 Hz low end. I have used the published values from the CNC4PC board and tried values from 100Hz (low end of PMDX) to 15500Hz high end of CNC4PC. My next test will be to see if that output pin works at all.static on/off. I know Pin 1 works to control my spindle through the on board relay. Have not used the others...until now. Thanks, Mike -- What Every C/C++ and Fortran developer Should Know! Read this article and learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools to help Windows* and Linux* C/C++ and Fortran developers boost performance applications - including clusters. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] key press link to pyvcp
Hello, I have a pyvcp button I have created to manually open and close a collet. Is it possible to get this button to also be triggered by a specific key on the keyboard? Thanks, Mike -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) One Node allows customers to consolidate database storage, standardize their database environment, and, should the need arise, upgrade to a full multi-node Oracle RAC database without downtime or disruption http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Parport questions
Kirk, I got the bash script working just in time to move on to using classic ladder... :) It turned out to be the parport.1.pin-2-out vs parport.1.pin-02-out 02 fixed it. I got a ladder program in but not working yet. I am not sure what is going on. I think it is something I am missing in the hal file. I am able to get my I/O pins assigned but I am having a weird result. If I go into hal meter I can locate the pins and in the case of the iocontrol.0.tool-prep-number = classicladder.0.s32in-00 I am able to view the data change on both when I issue a T gcode as I expected. I am not having any luck getting the watch window to work however in CL. I believe I should be seeing the integer on %IW0 but when I enter that in the watch window I get nothing... I am thinking I have something wrong in in my assignment. I had to break away from it for a while and I won't be able to look at it again until this evening. I will let you know how I make out. The wsum method you described looks clean and to the point. I was originally hoping that was possible but did not see the wsum I will probably give that a try as well. Thanks again for all your help, Mike -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Parport questions
Hello, I have had no luck getting a C executable to run from a M101 - M199 command so I have decided to take a different approach. I think that approach will be problematic with the need for root to get access to the port anyway and that may be causing the problem I am having. My goal is to apply a signal to pins 2, 3, and 4 of an additional parallel port. I am thinking a bash script with the appropriate pins turned high or low would do it.. So I found the parallel port tester .hal file from the wiki http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Parallel_Port_Tester I installed it and picked the appropriate port. (I actually have 3 ports total, 1 port is controlling the milling machine 0x0B800, and the other 2 ports are 0x378 and 0x0B000) I have verified that each of these ports work with the Parallel Port Tester program and I get the expected results. I can not get my bash script to execute correctly from calling a M102 as an example. This is my bash script: #!/bin/sh # M101 in your G code program will run the Linux commands in this # shell script batch file, passing the P and Q variables as command # line arguments. # give the command line arguments descriptive names P=$1 Q=$2 halcmd setp parport.1.pin-2-out True echo M101 P$P Q$Q: put your code here exit 0 ** I have modified my .hal file to this: # Generated by stepconf at Sat Sep 11 14:26:27 2010 # If you make changes to this file, they will be # overwritten when you run stepconf again loadrt trivkins loadrt [EMCMOT]EMCMOT base_period_nsec=[EMCMOT]BASE_PERIOD servo_period_nsec=[EMCMOT]SERVO_PERIOD num_joints=[TRAJ]AXES loadrt probe_parport loadrt hal_parport cfg=0x0B800 0x0B000 setp parport.0.reset-time 3500 loadrt stepgen step_type=0,0,0 loadrt abs count=1 addf parport.1.read base-thread addf parport.1.write base-thread setp parport.1.pin-2-out TRUE addf parport.0.read base-thread addf stepgen.make-pulses base-thread addf parport.0.write base-thread addf parport.0.reset base-thread *** I have played with the order of my port placement in line : loadrt hal_parport cfg=0x0B800 0x0B000 changing the order of the port call out? So one question I have that I could not find in any of the reading I did is does the the order of the port in this command dictate the parport number? So is this the case? loadrt hal_parport cfg= 0 1 2 . or is it the order seen in the results of the lspci -v . I think I know the answer to this because my original configuration used port 0x0B800 and it was set to parport.0. So I am assuming that based on my .hal file parport.0 is 0x0B800 and parport.1 is 0x0B000. I am also assuming these ports are out type because that is said to be the default. You will note that I have added a line setp parport.1.pin-2-out TRUE to my .hal file. This is basically the same command I am trying to run from the M102 code. I figured adding it here would require less steps in testing. I get the same error in either case. This is my error: parameter or pin 'parport.1.pin-2-out' not found. I get this error when I attempt to start EMC with the setp parport.1.pin-2-out TRUE in my .hal file as shown above or when I remove the line from the .hal file, launch EMC, then go to a terminal and execute the bash script manually. When I attempt to run the bash file from the M101 I get no error and no result. What am I missing? Thanks, Mike -- Virtualization is moving to the mainstream and overtaking non-virtualized environment for deploying applications. Does it make network security easier or more difficult to achieve? Read this whitepaper to separate the two and get a better understanding. http://p.sf.net/sfu/hp-phase2-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Parport questions
Steve, Thanks for your response. I am not getting copies of my posts or the responses in my email so I cut and pasted into a new email. I made some changes to my settings so hopefully I will start to get reply's. I was not aware of comp! I just took a look at it and it looks good. I will give that a try. I would love for the system to work from a T? command. Also good point on the 02 vs the 2. I will try that as soon as I get in front of my machine. Is there a specific link to info on tool changes in HAL? Thanks, Mike Mike Cinquino wrote: Hello, I have had no luck getting a C executable to run from a M101 - M199 command so I have decided to take a different approach. I think that approach will be problematic with the need for root to get access to the port anyway and that may be causing the problem I am having. My goal is to apply a signal to pins 2, 3, and 4 of an additional parallel port. I am thinking a bash script with the appropriate pins turned high or low would do it.. Why not use the parallel port in HAL, and just output the bits as HAL pins? I don't think there's a binary-BCD converter component, but it should be very easy to write one (use comp, it's a lot easier). It may also be possible to do it entirely with classicladder. If you need a strobe signal to the Arduino, that can also be done with classicladder or HAL components. That would also eliminate the need to make custom G-code that has the M1xx commands for every tool change - T6M1 would just work. Take a look at how tool changes are done in HAL, you may find it a lot easier to use than custom M codes. So I found the parallel port tester .hal file from the wiki http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Parallel_Port_Tester I installed it and picked the appropriate port. (I actually have 3 ports total, 1 port is controlling the milling machine 0x0B800, and the other 2 ports are 0x378 and 0x0B000) I have verified that each of these ports work with the Parallel Port Tester program and I get the expected results. I can not get my bash script to execute correctly from calling a M102 as an example. This is my bash script: #!/bin/sh # M101 in your G code program will run the Linux commands in this # shell script batch file, passing the P and Q variables as command # line arguments. # give the command line arguments descriptive names P=$1 Q=$2 halcmd setp parport.1.pin-2-out True echo M101 P$P Q$Q: put your code here exit 0 ** I have modified my .hal file to this: # Generated by stepconf at Sat Sep 11 14:26:27 2010 # If you make changes to this file, they will be # overwritten when you run stepconf again loadrt trivkins loadrt [EMCMOT]EMCMOT base_period_nsec=[EMCMOT]BASE_PERIOD servo_period_nsec=[EMCMOT]SERVO_PERIOD num_joints=[TRAJ]AXES loadrt probe_parport loadrt hal_parport cfg=0x0B800 0x0B000 setp parport.0.reset-time 3500 loadrt stepgen step_type=0,0,0 loadrt abs count=1 addf parport.1.read base-thread addf parport.1.write base-thread setp parport.1.pin-2-out TRUE addf parport.0.read base-thread addf stepgen.make-pulses base-thread addf parport.0.write base-thread addf parport.0.reset base-thread *** I have played with the order of my port placement in line : loadrt hal_parport cfg=0x0B800 0x0B000 changing the order of the port call out? So one question I have that I could not find in any of the reading I did is does the the order of the port in this command dictate the parport number? So is this the case? Yes. Parport.0 will be the first one you give the address (or number) for, parport.1 will be next, etc. loadrt hal_parport cfg= 0 1 2 . or is it the order seen in the results of the lspci -v . Using numbers below 16 will depend on the order the kernel finds the ports. You should be able to do cfg=2 0 1 to make the third Linux port parport.0, the first parport.1, and the second parport.2. I haven't tried this though. I think I know the answer to this because my original configuration used port 0x0B800 and it was set to parport.0. So I am assuming that based on my .hal file parport.0 is 0x0B800 and parport.1 is 0x0B000. I am also assuming these ports are out type because that is said to be the default. You will note that I have added a line setp parport.1.pin-2-out TRUE to my .hal file. This is basically the same command I am trying to run from the M102 code. I figured adding it here would require less steps in testing. I get the same error in either case. This is my error: parameter or pin 'parport.1.pin-2-out' not found. Try parport.1.pin-02-out instead. Looking at the driver source, it appears
Re: [Emc-users] Parport questions
Kirk, Thanks, I a am now leaning toward classic ladder. I know ladder logic so it should be my quickest path to getting something working. My understanding is fuzzy on how to get a T? command to cause a bit or bits to react in classic ladder but once I have that mastered I should be set. I have been doing a lot of reading and going back and forth with different options and it's starting to get a little overwhelming. EMC is very powerful and flexible but there is a lot to learn. So it looks like I could use halui.tool.number or iocontrol.0.tool-number to give me the correct tool number. It also looks like when M6 is run iocontrol.0.tool-change is set high until iocontrol.0.tool-change is driven high? My hal file will have this added to it. net tool-prepare-loopback iocontrol.0.tool-prepare = iocontrol.0.tool-prepared (not sure what this does exactly) net tool-change-start iocontrol.0.tool-change = parport.1.pin-?-out (to send a signal to arduino to start cycle gets turned on when M6 is executed) System is paused at M6 untilbelow net tool-change-done parport.1.pin-?-in = iocontrol.0.tool-changed (to send signal from arduino to emc that cycle is complete) EMC continues net tnum-current iocontrol.0.tool-number = classicladder.0.s32in-00 (Ladder will get tool number from this) My ladder will look something like this: --[compare %IWO = 1]---(%Q1)- N.O. Coil linked to parport pin |-(/%Q2)- N.C. Coil linked to parport pin |-(/%Q3)- N.C. Could linked to parport pin --[compare %IWO = 2]---(%/Q1)- N.C. Coil linked to parport pin |-(%Q2)- N.O. Coil linked to parport pin |-(/%Q3)- N.C. Could linked to parport pin etc... Does this make sense? Thanks, Mike On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 12:18 -0400, Mike Cinquino wrote: ... snip Is there a specific link to info on tool changes in HAL? Thanks, Mike Just in case it might be helpful, here is what I have done with my lathe turret using a custom comp:http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/HNC/emc2/ The comp needs to get a Park sensor feature as well as some time-outs added for each state, but it there is enough here to make my turret function. If you already know the Ladder language, that may be the way to go. Either way, you end up with HAL pins for invoking your tool changer and then signaling that your changer finished. Just connect these in your .hal file. -- Kirk Wallacehttp://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/index.html California, USA -- Virtualization is moving to the mainstream and overtaking non-virtualized environment for deploying applications. Does it make network security easier or more difficult to achieve? Read this whitepaper to separate the two and get a better understanding. http://p.sf.net/sfu/hp-phase2-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] M101 - M199 problem
Hello, I am having a problem getting a custom M101 to work. I building a custom tool changer and I am controlling it with an arduino board. I need to send a BCD signal over a spare parallel port. I have a C program that accomplishes this and I can make it work by running it from a terminal. I do however need to run it with sudo. Because of this I also tried a bash script that called the C program and got the same result (no response). Both work from the command line. I get no errors from EMC2. The spare port is not used by EMC2. It is actually the port on the mother board. My machine is running off a PCI parallel port card. The files are also in the appropriate directory. I have entered a echo command in the bash script that is shown when I run it from the command prompt. When run from EMC2 should it appear in a terminal window? I realize I could use classic ladder to accomplish this as well but I don't see why this is not working? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Mike -- Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances and start using them to simplify application deployment and accelerate your shift to cloud computing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining
Ron, What I have been playing with is using Gambas (a VB like language for linux) http://gambas.sourceforge.net/ to generate a .nc file. My Gamabs code creates a Conversational application that can run right with EMC running. I can then append or over write the .nc file depending on what I want to do. When I have a completed .nc file I simply browse for the file. This file could be the default file that gets loaded when EMC starts. If I make changes to the file I can just refresh it from AXIS. This method eliminates the need for direct hooks into EMC. Gambas is much easier to create GUI's for me than Python because I have a VB background. I only have a couple crude pocket routines written at this point. I will share that code with anyone that is interested in it. Mike On Mon, 2007-08-20 at 10:29 -0400, Ron Ginger wrote: What I do find disturbing is the attempt to bypass the interpreter entirely. My thoughts here will be old hat to many readers. I'm really bothered by some scripting language telling to machine to go to x3000m without testing that command to the limits of the device as recorded in a configuration file somewhere. At the same time there is no regular error feedback to tell the operator to f*6k off. For my use I don't see bypassing the interpreter. I would be happy to issue simple G code commands from the Script language. I don't mean to keep pushing the Mach model, but all VB can do from Mach is issue g code commands to the interpreter. With that dozens of 'wizard' screens have been written to do a wide range of tasks, from simple facing, to text engraving, pocketing, and hole arrays. I'm going off to read my new Python book, and follow some of the references Jeff offered. Maybe someday I will have an example of what I'm talking about. ron ginger - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Abort messes up position
One thing I have noticed about AXIS is that the shortcuts are case sensitive. Not a big deal once you realize it. On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 13:49 -0500, Jeff Epler wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 01:26:50PM -0500, Andy Holcomb wrote: Are the key short cuts in AXIS? like c,i,r and p? http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gui/axis/index.html#SECTION0014 Keyboard Controls Almost all actions in AXIS can be accomplished with the keyboard. A full list of keyboard shortcuts can be found in the AXIS Quick Reference, which can be displayed by choosing HELP QUICK REFERENCE. Many of the shortcuts are unavailable when in Code Entry mode. Table: Most Common Keyboard Shortcuts Keystroke Action Taken = F1 Toggle Emergency Stop F2 Turn machine on/off `, 1 .. 9, 0Set feed override from 0% to 100% X, `Activate first axis Y, 1Activate second axis Z, 2Activate third axis A, 3Activate fourth axis I Select jog increment C Continuous jog Control-HomePerform homing sequence End Touch off: Set G54 offset for active axis Left, Right Jog first axis Up, DownJog second axis Pg Up, Pg DnJog third axis [, ]Jog fourth axis O Open File Control-R Reload File R Run file P Pause execution S Resume Execution ESC Stop execution Control-K Clear backplot V Cycle among preset views Jeff - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] adding 2nd parallel port
Anders, I was hoping I could do that. Do you have a link to a diagram that shows a match8. I understand that it is a 8 bit binary match detector but I am not sure how one of those work? Thanks, Mike On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 15:24 +0200, Anders Wallin wrote: Chris, I agree on the jogwheel. Because I currently don't have a jogwheel I am making due w/ the arrow keys on the AXIS GUI and it is working, my biggest problem is proximity to the work. I am still stuck at trying to figure out how to make a selection of the correct axis to jog w/o having a hardwired line for each selection? I will probably have to just try some things. If I have a momentary switch connected to halui.jog.selected are you thinking that it will index to a new axis as I press and release? Also looking in the Hal document I am not seeing halui.jog.selected, should i be looking somewhere? I do see halui.jog-wheel.axis but this is a u8 data type. I think the key to figuring this out is an understanding of the available blocks/functions and how to use them to create a program. if you have 4 or less axes/modes to choose from, you could encode the position of a rotary switch into 2 bits. That way you save a bit of I/O. Saving would be even more with an 8-position switch, which can be represented with 3 bits. For jogging, it is best to connect the jogwheel count directly to emc's motioncontroller, as in my example: http://www.anderswallin.net/wp-content/2006_11jog/jog.hal you see that the jogwheel count is wired to axis.X.jog-counts this is a connection directly to emc's motioncontroller, and does not require halui. I think people tried physical jogwheels through halui and found that jogging was jerky, that's why jog-counts pins were added to the motioncontroller. AW - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] adding 2nd parallel port
Anders, Thanks... wow I some how missed that entire area of documentation. It looks like most of the things I am looking for are in that area. Thanks again, Mike On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 19:15 +0200, Anders Wallin wrote: Mike Cinquino wrote: Anders, I was hoping I could do that. Do you have a link to a diagram that shows a match8. I understand that it is a 8 bit binary match detector but I am not sure how one of those work? the manual page for match8 is here: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/man/man9/match8.9.html there are 8 A inputs and 8 B inputs. If all A inputs match all B inputs, the output will go high. AW - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Using Program Filters with EMC2 and Axis.
Manfredi, From what I have read Axis needs to be installed. Use: sudo apt-get build-dep emc2-axis Here is the link to the wiki page that shows this. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Installing_EMC2 Look under item 3.1 about in the middle between 3.1. and 3.2. Hope this helps. Mike On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 20:49 +, Manfredi Leto wrote: Hi, I would like to use the emc2 program filter feature... I've read the axis documentations here: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gui/axis/index.html In the program filter section there is an example with a script (holecircle.py) that should create g-code for drilling a series of holes along the circumference of a circle. I've downloaded the script holecircle.py, I've added the following lines to my .ini file: [FILTER] PROGRAM_EXTENSION = .py Python Script py = python At this point I tried to open the script using Axis, but nothing worked, the script was simply displayed in the Axis text area. So I wrote to Jeff Epler who told me that it doesn't work because this program filter feature will came with the new version of EMC, the 2.1. So, thank to Jeff who really helped me I've downloaded and compiled the beta version of EMC2.1 (called pre-2.1). I tried it, I was able to start all GUIs like mini, tkemc etc...but not Axis. It seems like Axis is not present in the /bin directory. So I think I've to download and compile it separately. So I can't try the Filter feature... Anyone could help me? Anyway, now I've read in the EMC user manual chapter 8 (USING THE AXIS GRAPHICAL INTERFACE) precisely in 8.8.1 that program filters can be used, so I just added to the .ini file the lines (different form those in the Axis documentation...): [EMC] PROGRAM_FILTER = python PROGRAM_EXTENSION = *.py Python Script I tried to start the EMC (thr official version 2.0.5) and I tried to open the holecircle.py script with Axis. This time something different happened, the script was not displayed in the text area, but after few seconds a small window opened and it says Exit code 256...closed it and nothing more happened... Anyone knows where is the problem? Every suggestion is welcomed! Thank you, Manfredi _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] adding 2nd parallel port
Anders, Thanks, that's good info. After looking at the HAL_Documentation again... The answer to my question on adding a second port jumped out at me. I don't know how I missed it many times before. It looks like I want to do this: (add this to my standard_pinout.hal file) loadrt hal_parport cfg=myport#_0 myport#_1 in My first port will be defaulted to an output type because I did not specify in. My second port will be an in type because I used in after the port number. Does this look right? Can I start using this port after I have done this? Thanks, Mike On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 23:30 +0200, Anders Wallin wrote: I'm sure someone else will answer your parport question, I think you need to load two parport drivers, and tell them which parport to connect to. you will get HAL pins parport.0.xxx and parport.1.xxx I am assuming the best way to integrate the pendant functions will be through HALUI. you might be interested in my notes from a while back: http://www.anderswallin.net/2006/11/jogging-emc2/ the connections to halui and emc would be similar for a parport based jogwheel/pendant, but the hardware pins would of course be named differently. AW - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] adding 2nd parallel port
Steve, Thanks My next step is to create a .hal file (I believe) that makes the connections to hal and halui. I have a couple questions about this. Looking at Anders work, it looks like he has a single file w/ both regular hal and halui connections, that get called from the .ini file using Halfile = XXX.hal. I would like to do the same. I have a decision to make on what features I want to include on my pendant because I only have 13 inputs to work w/. Well I actually have one more unused port that I could use to give me 26 inputs. I will have to come up w/ a clean way of breaking out to 2 individual parallel ports from one pendant to do this. Anyway, I think I have a handle on the normal bit type i/o. For jogging an axis I think I see a couple ways to do it: With out a jog wheel: I could have buttons that would jog in the plus or minus direction. I would have a multi-position switch to select X,Y,Z,A axis. I see in halui that i could use halui.jog.channel aka axis.minus and halui.jog.channel aka axis.plus . Because I am limited on inputs I don't want to dedicate a input for each axis + and each axis -. I would like to have a way to use the already selected axis/channel (0-3). It looks like match8 might do this but I am not completely following how it works in Anders .hal file. Also how does halui.jog.channel.plus and minus work. Does it jog continuous when halui.jog.channel.plus is true? I am used to if then else type programming. It looks like some of the available blocks can be used to reproduce this type of structure? Thanks, Mike On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 13:25 -0500, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: Mike Cinquino wrote: Anders, Thanks, that's good info. After looking at the HAL_Documentation again... The answer to my question on adding a second port jumped out at me. I don't know how I missed it many times before. It looks like I want to do this: (add this to my standard_pinout.hal file) loadrt hal_parport cfg=myport#_0 myport#_1 in I'm glad you found it, that should work. You may want to use underscores instead of spaces though. Apparently insmod on some systems cuts off string parameters at the first space. The modified line looks like this: loadrt hal_parport cfg=port0addr_port1addr_in My first port will be defaulted to an output type because I did not specify in. My second port will be an in type because I used in after the port number. Does this look right? It's safer in general to specify things instead of using defaults - that way it keep working even if the default changes: loadrt hal_parport cfg=port0addr_out_port1addr_in Can I start using this port after I have done this? Yes. It will be parport.1.xxx, as you originally thought. - Steve Thanks, Mike - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] HAL and a Keyboard
Does anyone know if HAL can read keys from a Keyboard like inputs? If so, can you show an example line in HAL. Thanks, Mike - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
