Re: [Emc-users] Live Cd
Gabriel Willen wrote: Im actually interested in seeing if the Roboboard 110 http://www.roboard.com/RB-110.htm, would be suitable for Linuxcnc. I'm curious as to why you would want to pay for such an expensive board when there are other cheaper alternatives. It's coming up at £200+VAT over here and I can get a can get a fully cased micro itx board for that ... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Live Cd
On 16 October 2012 12:52, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Gabriel Willen wrote: Im actually interested in seeing if the Roboboard 110 http://www.roboard.com/RB-110.htm, would be suitable for Linuxcnc. I'm curious as to why you would want to pay for such an expensive board when there are other cheaper alternatives It has 16 PWM outputs and other IO, so may be usable with no extra hardware. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Live Cd
So i did some remastering to the live cd of linuxcnc 2.5, also made a lite version using Xfce4, this version has only the bare minimum to run LCNC.. I added the Linuxcnc tux logo to the installer, I also modified the plymouth splash to use the Tux LinuxCNC logo on boot. For a live .iso only, i disabled the installer and configured Syslinux to boot straight into the OS, no menu's. Im in the process of writing a gui that only uses the frame buffer, and will eliminate Xorg completely. I'm not sure what i will gain here but when i run the Rtai module kernel latency test in Xfce4 or Gnome version i see a 2000ns difference in the max latency when compared to running it in CLI. Im not positive how this correlates between the latency test shipped with linuxcnc hopefully someone on here can chime in with that, or ill take a look at the source code and figure it out. I'll take some screenshots later this afternoon. the Xfce4 iso is only 250mb. Also only ships with the En language package, though adding the locale package's back in is trivial and only adds about 20Mb of additional space. If your wondering what the point of this is, I want the OS to feel as if, its only linuxcnc for the machine's i design. I have been unable to duplicate the RTAI latency i can get with the shipped package from linuxcnc on any other distro so i decided to stick with Ubuntu. I built the lite version using Ubuntu-mini-remix a great starting .iso for those interested. I will be using a Compact Flash drive on the controllers with my machine. It will load the .iso live into ram on boot every time this makes updating a breeze i can remotely send a new .iso if bug fixes or improvements are made to the os and linuxcnc itself. I'll leave this open for comments or criticism. Thanks Gabe -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Live Cd
On 10/15/2012 7:10 AM, Gabriel Willen wrote: So i did some remastering to the live cd of linuxcnc 2.5, also made a lite version using Xfce4, this version has only the bare minimum to run LCNC.. ... Im in the process of writing a gui that only uses the frame buffer, and will eliminate Xorg completely. I'm not sure what i will gain here but when i run the Rtai module kernel latency test in Xfce4 or Gnome version i see a 2000ns difference in the max latency when compared to running it in CLI. Im not positive how this correlates between the latency test shipped with linuxcnc hopefully someone on here can chime in with that, or ill take a look at the source code and figure it out.. Gabe: 2000ns difference is small beer but I'll bet the magnitude of the difference depends on hardware specifics. What CPU/motherboard/graphics combination do you have? Just so we know where we stand, what is the max latency you get with Gnome? I've not run the RTAI kernel latency test on many of the systems on which I ran the LinuxCNC latency test so I don't know how well the two results compare. Interesting question, especially in light of recent experimentation with alternative realtime environments where only a kernel latency test is available in early stages (see recent traffic about the Xenomai work on emc-developers). If your wondering what the point of this is, I want the OS to feel as if, its only linuxcnc for the machine's i design. I have been unable to duplicate the RTAI latency i can get with the shipped package from linuxcnc on any other distro so i decided to stick with Ubuntu. Curious. I infer that your latency was worse with other distros. Unfortunately, details like kernel version and kernel configuration matter. In general, I wouldn't expect Ubuntu always to give the best numbers. I will be using a Compact Flash drive on the controllers with my machine. It will load the .iso live into ram on boot every time this makes updating a breeze i can remotely send a new .iso if bug fixes or improvements are made to the os and linuxcnc itself. I'll leave this open for comments or criticism. Hey, go for it. The beauty of open source software is that you can customize to your heart's content. I personally like minimalism so you're playing my kind of music. Thanks Gabe Regards, Kent PS - It's curious how your and tuxcnc's work with minimum distros show up within one month of each other. -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Live Cd
Sounds interesting, do you have a download link? Regards, Alex - Original Message - From: Gabriel Willen gabewil...@gmail.com To: Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 2:10 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Live Cd So i did some remastering to the live cd of linuxcnc 2.5, also made a lite version using Xfce4, this version has only the bare minimum to run LCNC.. I added the Linuxcnc tux logo to the installer, I also modified the plymouth splash to use the Tux LinuxCNC logo on boot. For a live .iso only, i disabled the installer and configured Syslinux to boot straight into the OS, no menu's. Im in the process of writing a gui that only uses the frame buffer, and will eliminate Xorg completely. I'm not sure what i will gain here but when i run the Rtai module kernel latency test in Xfce4 or Gnome version i see a 2000ns difference in the max latency when compared to running it in CLI. Im not positive how this correlates between the latency test shipped with linuxcnc hopefully someone on here can chime in with that, or ill take a look at the source code and figure it out. I'll take some screenshots later this afternoon. the Xfce4 iso is only 250mb. Also only ships with the En language package, though adding the locale package's back in is trivial and only adds about 20Mb of additional space. If your wondering what the point of this is, I want the OS to feel as if, its only linuxcnc for the machine's i design. I have been unable to duplicate the RTAI latency i can get with the shipped package from linuxcnc on any other distro so i decided to stick with Ubuntu. I built the lite version using Ubuntu-mini-remix a great starting .iso for those interested. I will be using a Compact Flash drive on the controllers with my machine. It will load the .iso live into ram on boot every time this makes updating a breeze i can remotely send a new .iso if bug fixes or improvements are made to the os and linuxcnc itself. I'll leave this open for comments or criticism. Thanks Gabe -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Live Cd
What does this really get you?I don't see the advantage. I have had LCNC running off 8 gig CF cards in two applications for a couple of years and I quickly realized that I could have used 4 gig flash cards instead without difficulty. I think I would have a hard time finding CF cards smaller than 4 gigs now. I was at Walmart recently and they were clearancing Sony 4 gig USB stick drives for $2.00 each! BTW, the Sony stick drives I got for $2 are really fast! Dave On 10/15/2012 7:10 AM, Gabriel Willen wrote: So i did some remastering to the live cd of linuxcnc 2.5, also made a lite version using Xfce4, this version has only the bare minimum to run LCNC.. I added the Linuxcnc tux logo to the installer, I also modified the plymouth splash to use the Tux LinuxCNC logo on boot. For a live .iso only, i disabled the installer and configured Syslinux to boot straight into the OS, no menu's. Im in the process of writing a gui that only uses the frame buffer, and will eliminate Xorg completely. I'm not sure what i will gain here but when i run the Rtai module kernel latency test in Xfce4 or Gnome version i see a 2000ns difference in the max latency when compared to running it in CLI. Im not positive how this correlates between the latency test shipped with linuxcnc hopefully someone on here can chime in with that, or ill take a look at the source code and figure it out. I'll take some screenshots later this afternoon. the Xfce4 iso is only 250mb. Also only ships with the En language package, though adding the locale package's back in is trivial and only adds about 20Mb of additional space. If your wondering what the point of this is, I want the OS to feel as if, its only linuxcnc for the machine's i design. I have been unable to duplicate the RTAI latency i can get with the shipped package from linuxcnc on any other distro so i decided to stick with Ubuntu. I built the lite version using Ubuntu-mini-remix a great starting .iso for those interested. I will be using a Compact Flash drive on the controllers with my machine. It will load the .iso live into ram on boot every time this makes updating a breeze i can remotely send a new .iso if bug fixes or improvements are made to the os and linuxcnc itself. I'll leave this open for comments or criticism. Thanks Gabe -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Live Cd
Dave, It really has nothing to do with the size of the drive, or saving money by cutting down the drive size. This is merely for remote support, I would much rather have a script downloading 200Mb updated iso's with bug fixes from my server, than 600+Mb iso's. Plus These machines are designed For there specific task, boots into the custom gui and shuts down. Thats it... no surfing the web, taking notes on gedit, or browsing the Ubuntu software center for games. Im actually interested in seeing if the Roboboard 110 http://www.roboard.com/RB-110.htm, would be suitable for Linuxcnc. Gabe On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: What does this really get you?I don't see the advantage. I have had LCNC running off 8 gig CF cards in two applications for a couple of years and I quickly realized that I could have used 4 gig flash cards instead without difficulty. I think I would have a hard time finding CF cards smaller than 4 gigs now. I was at Walmart recently and they were clearancing Sony 4 gig USB stick drives for $2.00 each! BTW, the Sony stick drives I got for $2 are really fast! Dave On 10/15/2012 7:10 AM, Gabriel Willen wrote: So i did some remastering to the live cd of linuxcnc 2.5, also made a lite version using Xfce4, this version has only the bare minimum to run LCNC.. I added the Linuxcnc tux logo to the installer, I also modified the plymouth splash to use the Tux LinuxCNC logo on boot. For a live .iso only, i disabled the installer and configured Syslinux to boot straight into the OS, no menu's. Im in the process of writing a gui that only uses the frame buffer, and will eliminate Xorg completely. I'm not sure what i will gain here but when i run the Rtai module kernel latency test in Xfce4 or Gnome version i see a 2000ns difference in the max latency when compared to running it in CLI. Im not positive how this correlates between the latency test shipped with linuxcnc hopefully someone on here can chime in with that, or ill take a look at the source code and figure it out. I'll take some screenshots later this afternoon. the Xfce4 iso is only 250mb. Also only ships with the En language package, though adding the locale package's back in is trivial and only adds about 20Mb of additional space. If your wondering what the point of this is, I want the OS to feel as if, its only linuxcnc for the machine's i design. I have been unable to duplicate the RTAI latency i can get with the shipped package from linuxcnc on any other distro so i decided to stick with Ubuntu. I built the lite version using Ubuntu-mini-remix a great starting .iso for those interested. I will be using a Compact Flash drive on the controllers with my machine. It will load the .iso live into ram on boot every time this makes updating a breeze i can remotely send a new .iso if bug fixes or improvements are made to the os and linuxcnc itself. I'll leave this open for comments or criticism. Thanks Gabe -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Live Cd
On 15 October 2012 15:30, Gabriel Willen gabewil...@gmail.com wrote: Im actually interested in seeing if the Roboboard 110 http://www.roboard.com/RB-110.htm, would be suitable for Linuxcnc. Possibly, I think it is a very close relative of: http://www.roboard.com/ncbox-189.html So I expect that the same disc image would work. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Live Cd
That makes sense. Thanks for the explanation. Dave On 10/15/2012 10:30 AM, Gabriel Willen wrote: Dave, It really has nothing to do with the size of the drive, or saving money by cutting down the drive size. This is merely for remote support, I would much rather have a script downloading 200Mb updated iso's with bug fixes from my server, than 600+Mb iso's. Plus These machines are designed For there specific task, boots into the custom gui and shuts down. Thats it... no surfing the web, taking notes on gedit, or browsing the Ubuntu software center for games. Im actually interested in seeing if the Roboboard 110 http://www.roboard.com/RB-110.htm, would be suitable for Linuxcnc. Gabe On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Davee...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: What does this really get you?I don't see the advantage. I have had LCNC running off 8 gig CF cards in two applications for a couple of years and I quickly realized that I could have used 4 gig flash cards instead without difficulty. I think I would have a hard time finding CF cards smaller than 4 gigs now. I was at Walmart recently and they were clearancing Sony 4 gig USB stick drives for $2.00 each! BTW, the Sony stick drives I got for $2 are really fast! Dave On 10/15/2012 7:10 AM, Gabriel Willen wrote: So i did some remastering to the live cd of linuxcnc 2.5, also made a lite version using Xfce4, this version has only the bare minimum to run LCNC.. I added the Linuxcnc tux logo to the installer, I also modified the plymouth splash to use the Tux LinuxCNC logo on boot. For a live .iso only, i disabled the installer and configured Syslinux to boot straight into the OS, no menu's. Im in the process of writing a gui that only uses the frame buffer, and will eliminate Xorg completely. I'm not sure what i will gain here but when i run the Rtai module kernel latency test in Xfce4 or Gnome version i see a 2000ns difference in the max latency when compared to running it in CLI. Im not positive how this correlates between the latency test shipped with linuxcnc hopefully someone on here can chime in with that, or ill take a look at the source code and figure it out. I'll take some screenshots later this afternoon. the Xfce4 iso is only 250mb. Also only ships with the En language package, though adding the locale package's back in is trivial and only adds about 20Mb of additional space. If your wondering what the point of this is, I want the OS to feel as if, its only linuxcnc for the machine's i design. I have been unable to duplicate the RTAI latency i can get with the shipped package from linuxcnc on any other distro so i decided to stick with Ubuntu. I built the lite version using Ubuntu-mini-remix a great starting .iso for those interested. I will be using a Compact Flash drive on the controllers with my machine. It will load the .iso live into ram on boot every time this makes updating a breeze i can remotely send a new .iso if bug fixes or improvements are made to the os and linuxcnc itself. I'll leave this open for comments or criticism. Thanks Gabe -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Live CD
I have downloaded and burnt the Live CD 10.04. It has worked on one desktop I tried but not on another or my laptop. I only have the laptop with me at the moment so I would like to install Ubuntu and EMC to find out more in conjunction with reading all the EMC manuals I have printed out. The laptop is a Panansonic Toughbook CF29,Windows XP,Pentium 4,756Mb ram. From the users emails over the last few days I tried the ctrl/alt/f1and have experimented with the f6 boot options. The laptop appears to boot to a certain point and then the screen goes blank and then 'hangs' with the power off button being the only option. If I delete splash-- and replace it with vga=771 then the display remains on and the laptop 'hangs' on pulseaudio configured for per-user sessions line. I have tried some of the other f6 suggestions but not all as yet (I will wear the power button out soon). I don't know if I can add the options sequentially to the boot line or only use one at a time. Does anybody have any suggestions rather than me working through all the f6 options without really knowing which maybe causing the boot problem ? Tim Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Live CD
On Wednesday, December 28, 2011 12:24:02 PM Tim James did opine: I have downloaded and burnt the Live CD 10.04. It has worked on one desktop I tried but not on another or my laptop. I only have the laptop with me at the moment so I would like to install Ubuntu and EMC to find out more in conjunction with reading all the EMC manuals I have printed out. The laptop is a Panansonic Toughbook CF29,Windows XP,Pentium 4,756Mb ram. No knowledge of that one. From the users emails over the last few days I tried the ctrl/alt/f1and have experimented with the f6 boot options. The laptop appears to boot to a certain point and then the screen goes blank and then 'hangs' with the power off button being the only option. If I delete splash-- and replace it with vga=771 then the display remains on and the laptop 'hangs' on pulseaudio configured for per-user sessions line. Someone needs to tell you how to skip pulse, I believe it can be done but I've never had to get out that big a hammer. I have tried some of the other f6 suggestions but not all as yet (I will wear the power button out soon). :) There are pretty durable, my old hp dv-5120-us has a lot of use, still fine. I don't know if I can add the options sequentially to the boot line or only use one at a time. Generally you can use a whole bunch of the options, that buffer is at least a full kilobyte. Does anybody have any suggestions rather than me working through all the f6 options without really knowing which maybe causing the boot problem ? Tim Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene To say you got a vote of confidence would be to say you needed a vote of confidence. -- Andrew Young -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Live CD
Hi Download the 8.04 cdimage and install that. If you want a newer version of EMC you can install that onto 8.04. A lot of things have changed from version 9.10 of Ubuntu onwards, that do not make it ideal for older hardware. I have 8.04 running happily on 2 P4 desktops in the workshop, with a RIP build of EMC 2.6. http://www.linuxcnc.org/hardy/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-emc2-aj13-i386.iso regards -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Live CD
On 12/28/2011 09:06 AM, Tim James wrote: I have downloaded and burnt the Live CD 10.04. It has worked on one desktop I tried but not on another or my laptop. I only have the laptop with me at the moment so I would like to install Ubuntu and EMC to find out more in conjunction with reading all the EMC manuals I have printed out. The laptop is a Panansonic Toughbook CF29,Windows XP,Pentium 4,756Mb ram. what's more important to know is which chipset video and CPU are in there. From the users emails over the last few days I tried the ctrl/alt/f1and have experimented with the f6 boot options. The laptop appears to boot to a certain point and then the screen goes blank and then 'hangs' with the power off button being the only option. If I delete splash-- and replace it with vga=771 then the display remains on and the laptop 'hangs' on pulseaudio configured for per-user sessions line. I have tried some of the other f6 suggestions but not all as yet (I will wear the power button out soon). I don't know if I can add the options sequentially to the boot line or only use one at a time. Does anybody have any suggestions rather than me working through all the f6 options without really knowing which maybe causing the boot problem ? Tim First try to see if you can install it in text mode only. Next would be Ubuntu 11.x to see if it works better or you could try perhaps kubuntu version. If not then try a different distribution altogether. I would try debian as ubuntu is based on it. One other option is to try virtual installation inside XP to see if that works. RT will not work of course, but you can still test basic EMC functionality. Installing virtualbox from Oracle takes only a few minutes. -- Rafael -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] live cd staleness
ubu8 and ubu10 + emc2 installs both provide the Axis gui errors, cant do anything without homing for any mdi command following the machine completing the homing sequence. is there a way to get an up to date live cd with relevant patches and current bug fixes, or is the distribution only intended to be a 'let's see what happens' type of thing for fluent command line linux personnel? -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA The must-attend event for mobile developers. Connect with experts. Get tools for creating Super Apps. See the latest technologies. Sessions, hands-on labs, demos much more. Register early save! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-blackberry-1 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] live cd staleness
cant do anything without homing I haven't seen that one. Are all axes homed? Do they have the little symbol next to the axis on the screen? is the distribution only intended to be a 'let's see what happens' type of thing for fluent command line linux personnel? I believe you should be able to do the install and then do the updates (assuming your have internet access). Since I mess around with the source code sometimes I usually use Git to pull the source code and then compile the version I want. But I think that most people run the update service to get the latest and greatest released version. But I suspect that you have a config error and not all of your axes are actually homed. Dave On 8/8/2011 5:44 AM, charles green wrote: ubu8 and ubu10 + emc2 installs both provide the Axis gui errors, cant do anything without homing for any mdi command following the machine completing the homing sequence. is there a way to get an up to date live cd with relevant patches and current bug fixes, or is the distribution only intended to be a 'let's see what happens' type of thing for fluent command line linux personnel? -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA The must-attend event for mobile developers. Connect with experts. Get tools for creating Super Apps. See the latest technologies. Sessions, hands-on labs, demos much more. Register early save! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-blackberry-1 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA The must-attend event for mobile developers. Connect with experts. Get tools for creating Super Apps. See the latest technologies. Sessions, hands-on labs, demos much more. Register early save! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-blackberry-1 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] live cd staleness
I feel your pain somewhat, but I've worked through many of the difficulties. When you run the live CD (I used the latest Ubuntu 10.04), the first time you try to run the sim AXIS, it asks if you'd like to copy the files to your home directory. I answered YES. It makes a copy of all the EMC2 stuff in your home directory, which is: /home/ubuntu When you try to run a program, there are two red buttons on the left. The leftmost is the ESTOP, and you must click it to get it out (out of ESTOP). The next one is the power button, and it needs to be clicked to push it in, but it doesn't look much different when it's in than when it's out. Then you try to run the program that is loaded by default, and you get the error you cited. I don't know the exact phrase, but your paraphrase is accurate. At this point click on MACHINE then a pull down menu gives you access to Homing then you can click on Home All. EMC2 will do some fancy stuff, and then let you run a program. The programs in /home/ubuntu/emc2/nc_files/examples (perhaps there's another level I've missed) are owned by root, who you aren't since you are ubuntu. The solution is to open a terminal window and type cd /home/ubuntu then type : ls -l to see if anything is owned by root. If it is, then type sudo chown ubuntu:ubuntu * Forgive me if you are more advanced than my instructions convey, but sometimes the extra stuff may help. The 'sudo' allows you to act as root. The 'chown' says to change the owner of files or directories. the first ubuntu is the new owner, the second ubuntu is the new group. Don't know if the second one is needed, but so far it hasn't hurt me. The star says to change every file or folder you find. If this isn't the case, perhaps someone else will correct me. Now we need to go to the next directory: cd emc2 ls -l If there's anything that needs ownership change, change it. If not, let's go on. The next directory should show in the listing in case I get the order wrong, or leave a level out since I'm not booted up into EMC2 ubuntu (you see I'm running Linux Mint for EMAIL purposes and all non EMC2 stuff because ubuntu thinks I don't deserve write access to my other hard drives.) I believe from EMC2 there are two options, the one in which the configuration files are kept, and nc_files. If your mileage is like mine, you may have to edit axis.ini, and (at least in the simulator) make EMC2 believe it has and enormous Z-axis to handle programs. The axis positive and negative limits are near the end of the file, and I usually have trouble with going beyond the Z axis limit. Again if this is owned by root, you will need to change owners. If you don't have security issues, so you don't need this PC protected by passwords, and you have already installed EMC2 ubuntu, then you may be able to get rid of your password by opening a terminal. Click through: Applications--Accessories--Terminal Then to become root type: sudo su Then to delete your password type: passwd --delete ubuntu or... instead of 'ubuntu', whoever you chose to be during the installation. If you want a password, but want to be logged in automatically when ubuntu starts, then delete your password (as shown above) then close the terminal. Then click on: System--Administration-- Users and Groups On the left click on the user you are just to highlight it. Then on the right, password should say 'none'. Click on 'Change' to the right of none. Then you can enter a new password, and check the box that says 'Don't ask for password on logon'. Grace to you in this matter, cogoman On 08/08/2011 08:14 AM, charles green wrote: ubu8 and ubu10 + emc2 installs both provide the Axis gui errors, cant do anything without homing for any mdi command following the machine completing the homing sequence.? is there a way to get an up to date live cd with relevant patches and current bug fixes, or is the distribution only intended to be a 'let's see what happens' type of thing for fluent command line linux personnel? -- uberSVN's rich system and user administration capabilities and model configuration take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. Learn more about uberSVN and get a free download at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Live CD Booting and installing
I want to report a problem and fix I had while trying to load first W7 and then Ubunto 10.4/Emc2 live CD. The new motherboard is an ASUS with socket 1155 and the processor a Intel Quad core I7. The SATA config (2x6 Gb/s = 4x 3Gb/s) default BIOS setting was IDE. W7 would install but then Ubuntu would not - I started up with a pink/red screen with some small graphics at the bottom center and then froze. The solution was to change the BIOS SATA setting to AHCI, re-install W7 and then install Ubuntu. I did not have the same problem with an INTEL motherboards recently. Rudy -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Live CD Parport mode 4 problem
I have a multi-boot setup, so I can boot my original 8.04 liveCD installation, or my new 10.04 version. With the 10.04 version, I'm getting a complaint at startup that the parallel port doesn't support mode 4. I don't see this on the 8.04 version. It's the same computer, with the same .ini file, connected to the same external hardware. As yet I don't know if this causes any problem in operation. I'll know that within the next couple of days. Is this something new that was added? Neil -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Live CD Parport mode 4 problem
Yes, the parport stuff has changed between emc2.3 and emc2.4 and there are also differences between an 8.04 installation and a 10.04 installation. In emc 2.3 and earlier, emc's parport drivers would not cooperate with the linux parport drivers, so the linux driver was disabled by default. In emc 2.4, emc gained the ability to cooperate with linux's parport driver. The anticipated benefit was primarily to make it easy to specify pci parports, because you can call them parport 1, 2 and so on instead of 0xe800 or a raw port address. so systems that are initially installed with 2.4 leave linux parports enabled ny default (but 2.3 to 2.4 upgrades don't, I think) We also hoped for better detection of epp-supporting parports, but this has proven to be untrue. See the long d510mo threads for more on this. the mode 4 message is related to this--linux thinks your port is not epp-capable. in the latest release, 2.4.5, I think the problems working in cooperation with linux are solved, but if not, your final option is to disable theb linux parport driver by editing the file /etc/modprobe.d/emc2 or emc2.conf and removing a #. reboot after doing this, and linux will get out of the way of emc's use of the parport. (of this does turn out to be necessary, let us know--we may be able to find a solution, like we did for d510mo) Jeff -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Live CD Parport mode 4 problem
OK, thanks Jeff. I was off list for a while, so I missed those earlier discussions. I'll check them out, and see if I can get it sorted. Neil On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Jeff Epler jep...@unpythonic.net wrote: Yes, the parport stuff has changed between emc2.3 and emc2.4 and there are also differences between an 8.04 installation and a 10.04 installation. In emc 2.3 and earlier, emc's parport drivers would not cooperate with the linux parport drivers, so the linux driver was disabled by default. In emc 2.4, emc gained the ability to cooperate with linux's parport driver. The anticipated benefit was primarily to make it easy to specify pci parports, because you can call them parport 1, 2 and so on instead of 0xe800 or a raw port address. so systems that are initially installed with 2.4 leave linux parports enabled ny default (but 2.3 to 2.4 upgrades don't, I think) We also hoped for better detection of epp-supporting parports, but this has proven to be untrue. See the long d510mo threads for more on this. the mode 4 message is related to this--linux thinks your port is not epp-capable. in the latest release, 2.4.5, I think the problems working in cooperation with linux are solved, but if not, your final option is to disable theb linux parport driver by editing the file /etc/modprobe.d/emc2 or emc2.conf and removing a #. reboot after doing this, and linux will get out of the way of emc's use of the parport. (of this does turn out to be necessary, let us know--we may be able to find a solution, like we did for d510mo) Jeff -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- http://www.pixpopuli.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Live CD Parport mode 4 problem - Solved
you didn't say what epp io board you're using, but getting emc to come up generally means there's been positive comminication between pc and bosrd using epp, so you're probably in the clear. jeff -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Live CD Parport mode 4 problem - Solved
It's the parallel port of the motherboard of a Dell Optiplex GX280, FYI. On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Jeff Epler jep...@unpythonic.net wrote: you didn't say what epp io board you're using, but getting emc to come up generally means there's been positive comminication between pc and bosrd using epp, so you're probably in the clear. jeff -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- http://www.pixpopuli.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Live CD RTAI version ??
You can find the version number of any installed package at the terminal: $ dpkg -l rtai-modules-2.6.15-magma ||/ Name VersionDescription +++-==-==- ii rtai-modules-2 3.3-1+aj4 rtai modules for Linux (kernel 2.6.15-magma) Thus, the rtai on this system (installed from the emc2 dapper live cd) is based on rtai 3.3. I determined the correct package name using 'dpkg-query -S', which says what package name is associated with a particular installed file: $ dpkg -S /usr/realtime-2.6.15-magma/bin/rtai-load rtai-modules-2.6.15-magma: /usr/realtime-2.6.15-magma/bin/rtai-load I could also have used a wildcard with dpkg -l, guessing that the package name started with rtai: $ dpkg -l rtai\* ||/ Name VersionDescription +++-==-==- ii rtai-modules-2 3.3-1+aj4 rtai modules for Linux (kernel 2.6.15-magma) (some command output trimmed a bit for clarity) Jeff - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Live CD install problem
Last night I downloaded the current Live-CD and installed it over my old 2.06 installation. That drive is 20 Gig, different from the 1 Gig drive I'll try to install with Ubuntu server. Totally different project, different machine, etc. I tried the Live version first and liked all the new stuff, so did the full install onto the 20 Gig drive. BTW, this is my first exposure to Ubuntu, and I really like it-excellent choice! Live worked fine, but the full install is generating an error, the critical lines seem to be: HAL:13: ERROR: systemv failed, returned 1 HAL:13: ERROR: insmod failed, returned -1 I had selected the univstep config. I've got a Xylotex drive on the current machine, and the stepper_inch config starts up fine. I'll connect to the machine and finish setting up the .ini later on, but wanted to report the problem now, since I have several manual machines I want to automate and several of them will require steppers larger than Xylotex can drive. Thoughts? It seems like it's probably just something missing from a config file, but I'm not familiar enough with EMC yet to figure it out. Thanks, Javid - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Emc-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Live CD install problem
Javid Butler wrote: Last night I downloaded the current Live-CD and installed it over my old 2.06 installation. That drive is 20 Gig, different from the 1 Gig drive I'll try to install with Ubuntu server. Totally different project, different machine, etc. I tried the Live version first and liked all the new stuff, so did the full install onto the 20 Gig drive. BTW, this is my first exposure to Ubuntu, and I really like it-excellent choice! Live worked fine, but the full install is generating an error, the critical lines seem to be: HAL:13: ERROR: systemv failed, returned 1 HAL:13: ERROR: insmod failed, returned -1 I had selected the univstep config. This is the config that's meant for use with the Pico Systems Universal Stepper Controller. You don't have that hardware, so the driver can't load. The error messages aren't very descriptive, but that's what's happening. I've got a Xylotex drive on the current machine, and the stepper_inch config starts up fine. I'll connect to the machine and finish setting up the .ini later on, but wanted to report the problem now, since I have several manual machines I want to automate and several of them will require steppers larger than Xylotex can drive. Thoughts? It seems like it's probably just something missing from a config file, but I'm not familiar enough with EMC yet to figure it out. Actually, you're missing something from the computer ;) Thanks, Javid - Steve - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Emc-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Live CD install problem
Javid Butler wrote: Last night I downloaded the current Live-CD and installed it over my old 2.06 installation. That drive is 20 Gig, different from the 1 Gig drive I'll try to install with Ubuntu server. Totally different project, different machine, etc. I tried the Live version first and liked all the new stuff, so did the full install onto the 20 Gig drive. BTW, this is my first exposure to Ubuntu, and I really like it-excellent choice! Live worked fine, but the full install is generating an error, the critical lines seem to be: HAL:13: ERROR: systemv failed, returned 1 HAL:13: ERROR: insmod failed, returned -1 I had selected the univstep config. Do you have a Pico Systems Universal Stepper Controller board connected to the parallel port? The univstep config is intended to work with that hardware, and if the board isn't there it won't load. I admit that the error messages are obscure. It's not easy to get messages from kernel space (where the driver is attempting to load and checking for compatible hardware) and user space (where it would be printed on the screen). You can check the kernel log to see the real error message - type dmesg at the command line. The result will be a long list of kernel messages, the ones you are looking for are probably in the last 20-30 lines. In fact, you might want to use dmesg | tail -n 30 to trim most of the log. Regards, John Kasunich - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Emc-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Live CD install problem
John and Steve, thanks for the help! That makes sense. I'm not 100% sure the Universal drive is the way for me to go yet, but it looks good. I'll try it again once one is connected. Javid - Original Message - From: John Kasunich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Live CD install problem Javid Butler wrote: Last night I downloaded the current Live-CD and installed it over my old 2.06 installation. That drive is 20 Gig, different from the 1 Gig drive I'll try to install with Ubuntu server. Totally different project, different machine, etc. I tried the Live version first and liked all the new stuff, so did the full install onto the 20 Gig drive. BTW, this is my first exposure to Ubuntu, and I really like it-excellent choice! Live worked fine, but the full install is generating an error, the critical lines seem to be: HAL:13: ERROR: systemv failed, returned 1 HAL:13: ERROR: insmod failed, returned -1 I had selected the univstep config. Do you have a Pico Systems Universal Stepper Controller board connected to the parallel port? The univstep config is intended to work with that hardware, and if the board isn't there it won't load. I admit that the error messages are obscure. It's not easy to get messages from kernel space (where the driver is attempting to load and checking for compatible hardware) and user space (where it would be printed on the screen). You can check the kernel log to see the real error message - type dmesg at the command line. The result will be a long list of kernel messages, the ones you are looking for are probably in the last 20-30 lines. In fact, you might want to use dmesg | tail -n 30 to trim most of the log. Regards, John Kasunich - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Emc-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Emc-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Live CD
I like to know is there anyway to purchase this CD - EMC2 Ubuntu Live CD, as it takes to long to download it. Thank you, AssoProf. Lie S.T. Nanyang Technological University - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
