Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion
Mark - Thanks for the feedback. I removed all the single files and left the zip file so others won't have the same issue of downloading corrupt individual files. Thanks for looking at that, Mark J. --PREVIOUS POST- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 14:29:49 -0400 From: Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: cabwwdmq_1rtldqivrm9z0nbqubswvhqqbja3chpvi8kenzu...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Tom, It wasn't the libraries (well, in a way it was, but...). All the single files I'd downloaded were corrupt. When I downloaded the all-inclusive zip file, I was able to open the .pro file and eeschema was able to open the .sch files successfully. I did have to move the libraries to the library folder too, but before I'd downloaded the zip file, nothing worked. Mark On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 1:42 PM, TJoseph Powderly tjt...@gmail.com wrote: -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Mark Johnsen m...@ijohnsen.com wrote: Mark - Thanks for the feedback. I removed all the single files and left the zip file so others won't have the same issue of downloading corrupt individual files. Thanks for looking at that, Mark J. Happy to play in the sandbox! ;-) Mark -- One Man, One Machine, One Computer! VBSEG -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 1:47 PM, TJoseph Powderly tjt...@gmail.com wrote: dunno mark i see now thaqt you are using linux i use 10.04 and same kicad as you but the .pro file only has 75 lines so the error in line 810 is odd Tomp tjtr33 When the files were downloaded individually, they were corrupted with extra lines for twitter and and bunch of other garbage. Getting them in the zip file made everything work. Mark -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion
Tom, It wasn't the libraries (well, in a way it was, but...). All the single files I'd downloaded were corrupt. When I downloaded the all-inclusive zip file, I was able to open the .pro file and eeschema was able to open the .sch files successfully. I did have to move the libraries to the library folder too, but before I'd downloaded the zip file, nothing worked. Mark On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 1:42 PM, TJoseph Powderly tjt...@gmail.com wrote: you need to import the libraries first you put them into the same directory where your other libraries are ( i say it that way cuz i use linux and you use M$ i dunno where M$ puts stuff ) then all the file can be used from where you unzipped Mark's package those files dont need to be anywhere special HTH TomP tjtr33 On 06/17/2015 10:08 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: I'm not even getting that far. Do all the files need to be downloaded to a directory where the .pro file lives? Maybe that's what I'm doing wrong? Thanks, mark -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- One Man, One Machine, One Computer! VBSEG -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion
dunno mark i see now thaqt you are using linux i use 10.04 and same kicad as you but the .pro file only has 75 lines so the error in line 810 is odd Tomp tjtr33 On 06/17/2015 10:07 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:27 AM, TJoseph Powderly tjt...@gmail.com wrote: Mark I can open the supplied .pro file fine using Eeschema build (2013-Mar-13)-testing on 1st open it will complain the libraries are not present so copy the contents of the KICAD Libraries directoy to /usr/share/kicad/library ( sudo maybe needed ) also, he';s supplied a pdf of the whole hierarchy when the projet opens with the libs installed you'll get a single schematic with a photo and 1 iconic sheets ( this is very ORcad like ) to go 'down' into a subsheet right click on a sheet icon and select Enter to go back 'up' from a subsheet right click on the subsheet you are inside, then select Leave HTH tomp tjtr33 Okay, I was originally trying to open just the .sch files and having issues with those. Tried to open the .pro file with Kicad and got this: file '/home/wendt/Desktop/AnilamToLinuxCNC.pr;, line 810: '=' expected With a long laundry list of other errors when I clicked on the the Details button. This on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and Kicad build 2013-jul-07-stable. The pdf's I'm not really concerned about, I'm trying to learn how to use Kicad and the schematic editor. Mark -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion
Mark, no problem did you ever have a full screen snapshot of some program and find yourself click on _the_picture_ of a button ? :) BTDT The tip off was the background picture text was fuzzy and the overlaid schematic text was sharp and i do use same technique in a difernt way i make a large hi rez image of front and backsides of pcbs mirror one save them with an alpha channel t=so they are transparent bring both into a schematic capture and reverse engineer the pcb layout looking THRU the 2 images. Then i can get a netlist and a schematic \o/ from fotos! TomP tjtr33 On 06/17/2015 10:10 AM, Mark Johnsen wrote: Tom, I can understand the confusion. I was emulating or trying to duplicate a very nice schematic I ran across that Jon Elson helped someone (sorry forgot their name) wire their Anilam Crusader M conversion to a PPC controller. In that example, they had taken parts of the original Anilam schematic and drawn in their changes and wiring. They did a cut/paste operation and what I have is a image (like *.png) of their work. It was very useful in validating my project, so I tried to emulate that and show where I wired into the existing wiring. I could put a note on it or something to clarify it. I was trying to save time of redrawing that part of the schematic, thought it was easier to cut/paste. Mark Message: 6 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 09:39:28 -0500 From: TJoseph Powderly tjt...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: 558186a0.5080...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Mark beware the 1st subsheet has a background image of a schematic that is confusing because it looks like wires and objects that you might click on to manipulate. they are just images! cute but confusing TomP tjtr33 the other subsheets are pure schematics -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion
you need to import the libraries first you put them into the same directory where your other libraries are ( i say it that way cuz i use linux and you use M$ i dunno where M$ puts stuff ) then all the file can be used from where you unzipped Mark's package those files dont need to be anywhere special HTH TomP tjtr33 On 06/17/2015 10:08 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: I'm not even getting that far. Do all the files need to be downloaded to a directory where the .pro file lives? Maybe that's what I'm doing wrong? Thanks, mark -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion
On Wednesday 17 June 2015 13:37:05 TJoseph Powderly wrote: Mark, no problem did you ever have a full screen snapshot of some program and find yourself click on _the_picture_ of a button ? :) BTDT VBWG. Guilty. The tip off was the background picture text was fuzzy and the overlaid schematic text was sharp and i do use same technique in a difernt way i make a large hi rez image of front and backsides of pcbs mirror one save them with an alpha channel t=so they are transparent bring both into a schematic capture and reverse engineer the pcb layout looking THRU the 2 images. Then i can get a netlist and a schematic \o/ from fotos! TomP tjtr33 On 06/17/2015 10:10 AM, Mark Johnsen wrote: Tom, I can understand the confusion. I was emulating or trying to duplicate a very nice schematic I ran across that Jon Elson helped someone (sorry forgot their name) wire their Anilam Crusader M conversion to a PPC controller. In that example, they had taken parts of the original Anilam schematic and drawn in their changes and wiring. They did a cut/paste operation and what I have is a image (like *.png) of their work. It was very useful in validating my project, so I tried to emulate that and show where I wired into the existing wiring. I could put a note on it or something to clarify it. I was trying to save time of redrawing that part of the schematic, thought it was easier to cut/paste. Mark Message: 6 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 09:39:28 -0500 From: TJoseph Powderly tjt...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: 558186a0.5080...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Mark beware the 1st subsheet has a background image of a schematic that is confusing because it looks like wires and objects that you might click on to manipulate. they are just images! cute but confusing TomP tjtr33 the other subsheets are pure schematics -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 1:26 AM, Mark Johnsen m...@ijohnsen.com wrote: I've been messing around w/ KiCAD and did a schematic for my Anilam Crusader M to a Mesa 5i25 7i77 conversion. In the github repository there's a Auto_Mesa.lib that includes a component for a 7i77. Since KiCAD is meant for circuit layout, I didn't know how to include the jumpers so left those off. But, the pins are there and it's in a multi-part format, which worked out kinda nice. https://github.com/floppydisk525/AnilamToLinuxCNC Regards, Mark It's probably me, and my lack of knowledge of Kicad, but I get a blank screen when I open the .sch files in Kicad, and when I try to view them in eeschema, it tells me it's not an eeschema file. What am I doing incorrectly? n.b. file(s) won't open in Eagle or gschem either. Thanks, Mark -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion
Mark beware the 1st subsheet has a background image of a schematic that is confusing because it looks like wires and objects that you might click on to manipulate. they are just images! cute but confusing TomP tjtr33 the other subsheets are pure schematics -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion
Mark I can open the supplied .pro file fine using Eeschema build (2013-Mar-13)-testing on 1st open it will complain the libraries are not present so copy the contents of the KICAD Libraries directoy to /usr/share/kicad/library ( sudo maybe needed ) also, he';s supplied a pdf of the whole hierarchy when the projet opens with the libs installed you'll get a single schematic with a photo and 1 iconic sheets ( this is very ORcad like ) to go 'down' into a subsheet right click on a sheet icon and select Enter to go back 'up' from a subsheet right click on the subsheet you are inside, then select Leave HTH tomp tjtr33 -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:27 AM, TJoseph Powderly tjt...@gmail.com wrote: Mark I can open the supplied .pro file fine using Eeschema build (2013-Mar-13)-testing on 1st open it will complain the libraries are not present so copy the contents of the KICAD Libraries directoy to /usr/share/kicad/library ( sudo maybe needed ) also, he';s supplied a pdf of the whole hierarchy when the projet opens with the libs installed you'll get a single schematic with a photo and 1 iconic sheets ( this is very ORcad like ) to go 'down' into a subsheet right click on a sheet icon and select Enter to go back 'up' from a subsheet right click on the subsheet you are inside, then select Leave HTH tomp tjtr33 Okay, I was originally trying to open just the .sch files and having issues with those. Tried to open the .pro file with Kicad and got this: file '/home/wendt/Desktop/AnilamToLinuxCNC.pr;, line 810: '=' expected With a long laundry list of other errors when I clicked on the the Details button. This on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and Kicad build 2013-jul-07-stable. The pdf's I'm not really concerned about, I'm trying to learn how to use Kicad and the schematic editor. Mark -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion
I'm new to KiCAD and learning how to get around it. There is a library file in the project directory called AnilamToLinuxCNC-cache.lib. I'm only guessing, but my hope would be that file has the library components in it for the project. I wonder if adding only that to your library folder would have worked vs. adding all the libraries. I was happy to include the other libraries so people could use them, just didn't think they had to be in there explicitly. Glad you got it open. BTW, I'm using Windows (ugh I know) and a recent non-stable build of KiCAD. The fact the stable opens the newer unstable is pretty good, I think. PS - I've been threatening my computer to dual install linux and windows so I can work on KiCAD, LinuxCNC, and LinuxCNC docs in linux on my main PC. Just haven't gotten round to it... The worry is that I fubar my main working machine... Mark Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion From: TJoseph Powderly tjtr33@gm... - 2015-06-17 14:28:07 Mark I can open the supplied .pro file fine using Eeschema build (2013-Mar-13)-testing on 1st open it will complain the libraries are not present so copy the contents of the KICAD Libraries directoy to /usr/share/kicad/library ( sudo maybe needed ) also, he';s supplied a pdf of the whole hierarchy when the projet opens with the libs installed you'll get a single schematic with a photo and 1 iconic sheets ( this is very ORcad like ) to go 'down' into a subsheet right click on a sheet icon and select Enter to go back 'up' from a subsheet right click on the subsheet you are inside, then select Leave HTH tjtr33 -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:39 AM, TJoseph Powderly tjt...@gmail.com wrote: Mark beware the 1st subsheet has a background image of a schematic that is confusing because it looks like wires and objects that you might click on to manipulate. they are just images! cute but confusing TomP tjtr33 the other subsheets are pure schematics I'm not even getting that far. Do all the files need to be downloaded to a directory where the .pro file lives? Maybe that's what I'm doing wrong? Thanks, mark -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion
Tom, I can understand the confusion. I was emulating or trying to duplicate a very nice schematic I ran across that Jon Elson helped someone (sorry forgot their name) wire their Anilam Crusader M conversion to a PPC controller. In that example, they had taken parts of the original Anilam schematic and drawn in their changes and wiring. They did a cut/paste operation and what I have is a image (like *.png) of their work. It was very useful in validating my project, so I tried to emulate that and show where I wired into the existing wiring. I could put a note on it or something to clarify it. I was trying to save time of redrawing that part of the schematic, thought it was easier to cut/paste. Mark Message: 6 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 09:39:28 -0500 From: TJoseph Powderly tjt...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: 558186a0.5080...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Mark beware the 1st subsheet has a background image of a schematic that is confusing because it looks like wires and objects that you might click on to manipulate. they are just images! cute but confusing TomP tjtr33 the other subsheets are pure schematics -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion
Mark, I did an 'archive' of the main project from KiCAD and it created a zip file. I committed that zip file to github, so maybe you can try that and then open the project file?? Also, making sure you have the libraries will be key to seeing the components. I would try the AnilamToLinuxCNC-cache.lib if you get that far. As I mentioned to Joseph, I'm using a recent build on windows. However, the fact that Joseph is using a 2013 stable build and he opened the project is helpful. I would try putting everything in the same directory, KiCAD warns you to do that when you create a New Project, I believe. Hope you get it working. Mark Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion From: Mark Wendt wendt.mark@gm... - 2015-06-17 15:08:26 On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:39 AM, TJoseph Powderly tjtr33@... wrote: Mark beware the 1st subsheet has a background image of a schematic that is confusing because it looks like wires and objects that you might click on to manipulate. they are just images! cute but confusing Lord tjtr33 the other subsheets are pure schematics I'm not even getting that far. Do all the files need to be downloaded to a directory where the .pro file lives? Maybe that's what I'm doing wrong? Thanks, mark -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Mark Johnsen m...@ijohnsen.com wrote: Mark, I did an 'archive' of the main project from KiCAD and it created a zip file. I committed that zip file to github, so maybe you can try that and then open the project file?? Also, making sure you have the libraries will be key to seeing the components. I would try the AnilamToLinuxCNC-cache.lib if you get that far. As I mentioned to Joseph, I'm using a recent build on windows. However, the fact that Joseph is using a 2013 stable build and he opened the project is helpful. I would try putting everything in the same directory, KiCAD warns you to do that when you create a New Project, I believe. Hope you get it working. Mark Okay, downloaded the zip file, moved the libraries to the /usr/share/kicad/library dir, and now things are opening just fine. When I downloaded the files individually, they seemingly got corrupted on their journey from github to my computer. Mark -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
