Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion

2015-06-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Mark Johnsen  wrote:

> Mark - Thanks for the feedback.  I removed all the single files and left
> the zip file so others won't have the same issue of downloading corrupt
> individual files.
>
> Thanks for looking at that,
> Mark J.
>

Happy to play in the sandbox!  ;-)

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Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion

2015-06-18 Thread Mark Johnsen
Mark - Thanks for the feedback.  I removed all the single files and left
the zip file so others won't have the same issue of downloading corrupt
individual files.

Thanks for looking at that,
Mark J.

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Tom,

It wasn't the libraries (well, in a way it was, but...).  All the single
files I'd downloaded were corrupt.  When I downloaded the all-inclusive zip
file, I was able to open the .pro file and eeschema was able to open the
.sch files successfully.  I did have to move the libraries to the library
folder too, but before I'd downloaded the zip file, nothing worked.

Mark

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Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion

2015-06-17 Thread Mark Wendt
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 1:47 PM, TJoseph Powderly  wrote:

> dunno mark
> i see now thaqt you are using linux
> i use 10.04 and same kicad as you
> but
> the .pro file only has 75 lines
> so the error in line 810 is odd
> Tomp tjtr33


When the files were downloaded individually, they were corrupted with extra
lines for twitter and and bunch of other garbage.  Getting them in the zip
file made everything work.

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Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion

2015-06-17 Thread Mark Wendt
Tom,

It wasn't the libraries (well, in a way it was, but...).  All the single
files I'd downloaded were corrupt.  When I downloaded the all-inclusive zip
file, I was able to open the .pro file and eeschema was able to open the
.sch files successfully.  I did have to move the libraries to the library
folder too, but before I'd downloaded the zip file, nothing worked.

Mark

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 1:42 PM, TJoseph Powderly  wrote:

> you need to import the libraries first
> you put them into the same directory where your other libraries are
> ( i say it that way cuz i use linux and you use M$
>i dunno where M$ puts stuff )
> then
> all the file can be used from where you unzipped Mark's package
> those files dont need to be anywhere special
> HTH
> TomP tjtr33
>
> On 06/17/2015 10:08 AM, Mark Wendt wrote:
> > I'm not even getting that far.  Do all the files need to be downloaded
> to a
> > directory where the .pro file lives?  Maybe that's what I'm doing wrong?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > mark
>
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Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion

2015-06-17 Thread TJoseph Powderly
dunno mark
i see now thaqt you are using linux
i use 10.04 and same kicad as you
but
the .pro file only has 75 lines
so the error in line 810 is odd
Tomp tjtr33

On 06/17/2015 10:07 AM, Mark Wendt wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:27 AM, TJoseph Powderly  wrote:
>
>> Mark
>> I can open the supplied .pro file fine
>> using Eeschema build (2013-Mar-13)-testing
>> on 1st open it will complain the libraries are not present
>> so
>> copy the contents of the "KICAD Libraries" directoy to
>> /usr/share/kicad/library   ( sudo maybe needed )
>>
>> also, he';s supplied a pdf of the whole hierarchy
>>
>> when the projet opens with the libs installed
>> you'll get a single schematic with a photo and
>> 1 iconic sheets ( this is very ORcad like )
>>
>> to go 'down' into a subsheet
>> right click on a sheet icon and select Enter
>> to go back 'up' from a subsheet
>> right click on the subsheet you are inside, then select Leave
>>
>> HTH tomp tjtr33
>
>
> Okay, I was originally trying to open just the .sch files and having issues
> with those.  Tried to open the .pro file with Kicad and got this:
>
> file '/home/wendt/Desktop/AnilamToLinuxCNC.pr;, line 810: '=' expected
>
> With a long laundry list of other errors when I clicked on the the
> "Details" button.
>
> This on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and Kicad build 2013-jul-07-stable.
>
> The pdf's I'm not really concerned about, I'm trying to learn how to use
> Kicad and the schematic editor.
>
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Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion

2015-06-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 17 June 2015 13:37:05 TJoseph Powderly wrote:
> Mark, no problem
>
> did you ever have a full screen snapshot of some program
> and find yourself click on _the_picture_ of a button ?
>
> :)
>
> BTDT
VBWG.  Guilty.
>
> The tip off was the background picture text was fuzzy
> and the overlaid schematic text was sharp
>
> and i do use same technique in a difernt way
> i make a large hi rez image of front and backsides of pcbs
> mirror one
> save them with an alpha channel t=so they are transparent
> bring both into a schematic capture
> and reverse engineer the pcb layout looking THRU the 2 images.
> Then i can get a netlist and a schematic  \o/ from fotos!
> TomP tjtr33
>
> On 06/17/2015 10:10 AM, Mark Johnsen wrote:
> > Tom,
> >
> > I can understand the confusion.  I was emulating or trying to
> > duplicate a very nice schematic I ran across that Jon Elson helped
> > someone (sorry forgot their name) wire their Anilam Crusader M
> > conversion to a PPC controller.  In that example, they had taken
> > parts of the original Anilam schematic and drawn in their changes
> > and wiring.  They did a cut/paste operation and what I have is a
> > image (like *.png) of their work.  It was very useful in validating
> > my project, so I tried to emulate that and show where I wired into
> > the existing wiring.  I could put a note on it or something to
> > clarify it.   I was trying to save time of redrawing that part of
> > the schematic, thought it was easier to cut/paste.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 09:39:28 -0500
> > From: TJoseph Powderly 
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M
> > Conversion To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> >  
> > Message-ID: <558186a0.5080...@gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> >
> > Mark
> > beware the 1st subsheet has a background image
> > of a schematic
> >
> > that is confusing because it looks like wires and objects
> > that you might click on to manipulate.
> > they are just images!
> >
> > cute but confusing
> >
> > TomP tjtr33
> >
> > the other subsheets are pure schematics
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Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion

2015-06-17 Thread TJoseph Powderly
you need to import the libraries first
you put them into the same directory where your other libraries are
( i say it that way cuz i use linux and you use M$
   i dunno where M$ puts stuff )
then
all the file can be used from where you unzipped Mark's package
those files dont need to be anywhere special
HTH
TomP tjtr33

On 06/17/2015 10:08 AM, Mark Wendt wrote:
> I'm not even getting that far.  Do all the files need to be downloaded to a
> directory where the .pro file lives?  Maybe that's what I'm doing wrong?
>
> Thanks,
> mark


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Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion

2015-06-17 Thread TJoseph Powderly
Mark, no problem

did you ever have a full screen snapshot of some program
and find yourself click on _the_picture_ of a button ?
:)
BTDT

The tip off was the background picture text was fuzzy
and the overlaid schematic text was sharp

and i do use same technique in a difernt way
i make a large hi rez image of front and backsides of pcbs
mirror one
save them with an alpha channel t=so they are transparent
bring both into a schematic capture
and reverse engineer the pcb layout looking THRU the 2 images.
Then i can get a netlist and a schematic  \o/ from fotos!
TomP tjtr33

On 06/17/2015 10:10 AM, Mark Johnsen wrote:
> Tom,
>
> I can understand the confusion.  I was emulating or trying to duplicate a
> very nice schematic I ran across that Jon Elson helped someone (sorry
> forgot their name) wire their Anilam Crusader M conversion to a PPC
> controller.  In that example, they had taken parts of the original Anilam
> schematic and drawn in their changes and wiring.  They did a cut/paste
> operation and what I have is a image (like *.png) of their work.  It was
> very useful in validating my project, so I tried to emulate that and show
> where I wired into the existing wiring.  I could put a note on it or
> something to clarify it.   I was trying to save time of redrawing that part
> of the schematic, thought it was easier to cut/paste.
>
> Mark
>
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 09:39:28 -0500
> From: TJoseph Powderly 
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>  
> Message-ID: <558186a0.5080...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Mark
> beware the 1st subsheet has a background image
> of a schematic
>
> that is confusing because it looks like wires and objects
> that you might click on to manipulate.
> they are just images!
>
> cute but confusing
>
> TomP tjtr33
>
> the other subsheets are pure schematics
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Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion

2015-06-17 Thread Mark Wendt
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Mark Johnsen  wrote:

> Mark,
>
> I did an 'archive' of the main project from KiCAD and it created a zip
> file.  I committed that zip file to github, so maybe you can try that and
> then open the project file??
>
> Also, making sure you have the libraries will be key to seeing the
> components.  I would try the AnilamToLinuxCNC-cache.lib if you get that
> far.
>
> As I mentioned to Joseph, I'm using a recent build on windows.  However,
> the fact that Joseph is using a 2013 stable build and he opened the project
> is helpful.  I would try putting everything in the same directory, KiCAD
> warns you to do that when you create a New Project, I believe.
>
> Hope you get it working.
> Mark



Okay, downloaded the zip file, moved the libraries to the
/usr/share/kicad/library dir, and now things are opening just fine.

When I downloaded the files individually, they seemingly got corrupted on
their journey from github to my computer.

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Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion

2015-06-17 Thread Mark Johnsen
Mark,

I did an 'archive' of the main project from KiCAD and it created a zip
file.  I committed that zip file to github, so maybe you can try that and
then open the project file??

Also, making sure you have the libraries will be key to seeing the
components.  I would try the AnilamToLinuxCNC-cache.lib if you get that far.

As I mentioned to Joseph, I'm using a recent build on windows.  However,
the fact that Joseph is using a 2013 stable build and he opened the project
is helpful.  I would try putting everything in the same directory, KiCAD
warns you to do that when you create a New Project, I believe.

Hope you get it working.
Mark


Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion
From: Mark Wendt  - 2015-06-17 15:08:26
 On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:39 AM, TJoseph Powderly  wrote:

> Mark
> beware the 1st subsheet has a background image
> of a schematic
>
> that is confusing because it looks like wires and objects
> that you might click on to manipulate.
> they are just images!
>
> cute but confusing
>
> Lord tjtr33
>
> the other subsheets are pure schematics


I'm not even getting that far.  Do all the files need to be downloaded to a
directory where the .pro file lives?  Maybe that's what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks,
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Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion

2015-06-17 Thread Mark Johnsen
I'm new to KiCAD and learning how to get around it.  There is a library
file in the project directory called AnilamToLinuxCNC-cache.lib.  I'm only
guessing, but my hope would be that file has the library components in it
for the project.  I wonder if adding only that to your library folder would
have worked vs. adding all the libraries.  I was happy to include the other
libraries so people could use them, just didn't think they had to be in
there explicitly.  Glad you got it open.

BTW, I'm using Windows (ugh I know) and a recent non-stable build of
KiCAD.  The fact the stable opens the newer unstable is pretty good, I
think.

PS - I've been threatening my computer to dual install linux and windows so
I can work on KiCAD, LinuxCNC, and LinuxCNC docs in linux on my main PC.
Just haven't gotten round to it...   The worry is that I fubar my main
working machine...

Mark



Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion
From: TJoseph Powderly  - 2015-06-17 14:28:07
 Mark
I can open the supplied .pro file fine
using Eeschema build (2013-Mar-13)-testing
on 1st open it will complain the libraries are not present
so
copy the contents of the "KICAD Libraries" directoy to
/usr/share/kicad/library   ( sudo maybe needed )

also, he';s supplied a pdf of the whole hierarchy

when the projet opens with the libs installed
you'll get a single schematic with a photo and
1 iconic sheets ( this is very ORcad like )

to go 'down' into a subsheet
right click on a sheet icon and select Enter
to go back 'up' from a subsheet
right click on the subsheet you are inside, then select Leave

HTH tjtr33
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Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion

2015-06-17 Thread Mark Johnsen
Tom,

I can understand the confusion.  I was emulating or trying to duplicate a
very nice schematic I ran across that Jon Elson helped someone (sorry
forgot their name) wire their Anilam Crusader M conversion to a PPC
controller.  In that example, they had taken parts of the original Anilam
schematic and drawn in their changes and wiring.  They did a cut/paste
operation and what I have is a image (like *.png) of their work.  It was
very useful in validating my project, so I tried to emulate that and show
where I wired into the existing wiring.  I could put a note on it or
something to clarify it.   I was trying to save time of redrawing that part
of the schematic, thought it was easier to cut/paste.

Mark


Message: 6
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 09:39:28 -0500
From: TJoseph Powderly 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

Message-ID: <558186a0.5080...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

Mark
beware the 1st subsheet has a background image
of a schematic

that is confusing because it looks like wires and objects
that you might click on to manipulate.
they are just images!

cute but confusing

TomP tjtr33

the other subsheets are pure schematics
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Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion

2015-06-17 Thread Mark Wendt
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:39 AM, TJoseph Powderly  wrote:

> Mark
> beware the 1st subsheet has a background image
> of a schematic
>
> that is confusing because it looks like wires and objects
> that you might click on to manipulate.
> they are just images!
>
> cute but confusing
>
> TomP tjtr33
>
> the other subsheets are pure schematics


I'm not even getting that far.  Do all the files need to be downloaded to a
directory where the .pro file lives?  Maybe that's what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks,
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Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion

2015-06-17 Thread Mark Wendt
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:27 AM, TJoseph Powderly  wrote:

> Mark
> I can open the supplied .pro file fine
> using Eeschema build (2013-Mar-13)-testing
> on 1st open it will complain the libraries are not present
> so
> copy the contents of the "KICAD Libraries" directoy to
> /usr/share/kicad/library   ( sudo maybe needed )
>
> also, he';s supplied a pdf of the whole hierarchy
>
> when the projet opens with the libs installed
> you'll get a single schematic with a photo and
> 1 iconic sheets ( this is very ORcad like )
>
> to go 'down' into a subsheet
> right click on a sheet icon and select Enter
> to go back 'up' from a subsheet
> right click on the subsheet you are inside, then select Leave
>
> HTH tomp tjtr33


Okay, I was originally trying to open just the .sch files and having issues
with those.  Tried to open the .pro file with Kicad and got this:

file '/home/wendt/Desktop/AnilamToLinuxCNC.pr;, line 810: '=' expected

With a long laundry list of other errors when I clicked on the the
"Details" button.

This on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and Kicad build 2013-jul-07-stable.

The pdf's I'm not really concerned about, I'm trying to learn how to use
Kicad and the schematic editor.

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Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion

2015-06-17 Thread TJoseph Powderly
Mark
beware the 1st subsheet has a background image
of a schematic

that is confusing because it looks like wires and objects
that you might click on to manipulate.
they are just images!

cute but confusing

TomP tjtr33

the other subsheets are pure schematics

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Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion

2015-06-17 Thread TJoseph Powderly
Mark
I can open the supplied .pro file fine
using Eeschema build (2013-Mar-13)-testing
on 1st open it will complain the libraries are not present
so
copy the contents of the "KICAD Libraries" directoy to 
/usr/share/kicad/library   ( sudo maybe needed )

also, he';s supplied a pdf of the whole hierarchy

when the projet opens with the libs installed
you'll get a single schematic with a photo and
1 iconic sheets ( this is very ORcad like )

to go 'down' into a subsheet
right click on a sheet icon and select Enter
to go back 'up' from a subsheet
right click on the subsheet you are inside, then select Leave

HTH tomp tjtr33

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Re: [Emc-users] KiCAD schematic Anilam Crusader M Conversion

2015-06-17 Thread Mark Wendt
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 1:26 AM, Mark Johnsen  wrote:

> I've been messing around w/ KiCAD and did a schematic for my Anilam
> Crusader M to a Mesa 5i25 & 7i77 conversion.  In the github repository
> there's a Auto_Mesa.lib that includes a component for a 7i77.  Since KiCAD
> is meant for circuit layout, I didn't know how to include the jumpers so
> left those off.  But, the pins are there and it's in a multi-part format,
> which worked out kinda nice.
>
> https://github.com/floppydisk525/AnilamToLinuxCNC
>
> Regards,
> Mark



It's probably me, and my lack of knowledge of Kicad, but I get a blank
screen when I open the .sch files in Kicad, and when I try to view them in
eeschema, it tells me it's not an eeschema file.

What am I doing incorrectly?

n.b. file(s) won't open in Eagle or gschem either.

Thanks,
Mark
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