Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question
So back for a bit, and have decided to get the D525MW w/1GB of RAM. Placing order in the morning. I completely forgot about this CF-to-IDE option, and will prob look into it later, but for now I'm anxious to get something up and running. Incremental dev ;) FWIW, I have 16 2.5 drives here, of which 3 does not work (kept them cause I might've needed the internals to repair some other drive over the past years), and 4 in machines currently. Only 2 of these are SATA. Of all, the WD's and Hitachis have been the most reliable for me, so I guess YMMV really applies here. Always hated Seagate, and a year ago I got a Seagate (was on sale and I figured it had been long enough), and it died about a month later. Grrr... Anyway, thanks for the info, and I'll post updates when I have anything useful to show off. Cheers, -Neil. Quoting Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com: Dave wrote: I have used two different Sata compact flash adapters. Thanks much for the data! I'm not a fan of WD drives. I have had problems with them. Seagates seem to be much more reliable. Yeah, the WD drive on my kid's computer had a failure in the power-off head locking mechanism. I had to open it up to defeat that feature, but may have scratched the disks while messing with it. Sometime I'll have to try to recover the data. That kind of stuff shouldn't happen. I am a lot more careful about backing up MY systems. Jon -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question
2011/7/1 Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosow...@gmail.com: You can see it when the machine boots up, but it's easier to check it on the running Linux system by running the 'dmidecode' program; on my machine, it prints the BIOS info in the first record: Ok, thank You! I will try to remember to check the BIOS version and latency numbers for D525MW board, so that they can be added to wiki page. Viesturs -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question
I have used two different Sata compact flash adapters. 1. About $40 each - Addonics - model ADSACF. I bought several directly from their website. Similar to this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812174005cm_re=sata_compact_flash_adapter-_-12-174-005-_-Product 2. About $15 each Syba - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812186061cm_re=sata_compact_flash_adapter-_-12-186-061-_-Product Both work well. The Addonics might be a higher quality unit but I have had both running in systems for over a year now.I have one system that has been running the Addonics card and the memory card below for three years now. For memory, I tried a couple of different flash cards and found that these work well and I have used several with zero issues - about $18 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208340cm_re=compact_flash_8gb-_-20-208-340-_-Product Boot time is quick, although a faster card might make it even quicker. So for about $33 you can have a diskless system that is easy to maintain. For laptop hard drives I have found that these are reliable: $39.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148443 I'm not a fan of WD drives. I have had problems with them. Seagates seem to be much more reliable. Dave On 6/30/2011 10:14 PM, Jon Elson wrote: Dave wrote: Neil, If you are going for cheap, consider using a 8 gig Compact Flash Card in a Sata to CF card adapter. I have a few running in machines now for a couple of years with zero issues. I can tell you exactly what parts I am using if you want to go that route. 8 gigs is plenty of space for Ubuntu 10.04 and EMC2. I believe I have 5 gigs of free space or so. Yes, I'd like to know. On a lot of these things, there are some models that work, and some that cause problems. Jon -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question
2011/7/1 Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com: I have used two different Sata compact flash adapters. 1. About $40 each - Addonics - model ADSACF. I bought several directly from their website. Similar to this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812174005cm_re=sata_compact_flash_adapter-_-12-174-005-_-Product 2. About $15 each Syba - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812186061cm_re=sata_compact_flash_adapter-_-12-186-061-_-Product I bought the cheapest CF SATA adapter http://www.dealextreme.com/p/compact-flash-cf-to-sata-hdd-converter-11164 Both work well. The Addonics might be a higher quality unit but I have had both running in systems for over a year now. I have one system that has been running the Addonics card and the memory card below for three years now. For memory, I tried a couple of different flash cards and found that these work well and I have used several with zero issues - about $18 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208340cm_re=compact_flash_8gb-_-20-208-340-_-Product and exacty the same Transcend 8GB x133 card on D525MW. Also works well, but Ubuntu starts pretty slow. Latency is near 8200 with HT disabled and isolcpus enabled, I expected better resuts. Probably some BIOS settings might improve it a little? Andrew Boot time is quick, although a faster card might make it even quicker. So for about $33 you can have a diskless system that is easy to maintain. For laptop hard drives I have found that these are reliable: $39.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148443 I'm not a fan of WD drives. I have had problems with them. Seagates seem to be much more reliable. Dave On 6/30/2011 10:14 PM, Jon Elson wrote: Dave wrote: Neil, If you are going for cheap, consider using a 8 gig Compact Flash Card in a Sata to CF card adapter. I have a few running in machines now for a couple of years with zero issues. I can tell you exactly what parts I am using if you want to go that route. 8 gigs is plenty of space for Ubuntu 10.04 and EMC2. I believe I have 5 gigs of free space or so. Yes, I'd like to know. On a lot of these things, there are some models that work, and some that cause problems. Jon -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question
$6.70 - yep that is cheap.The Sata adapters from new egg come with cables, power and Sata, and also a PCI bracket and in the case of the Addonics I think it also comes with a drive bay bracket (better check to make sure I am right). But if you don't need that stuff.. Those DealExtreme prices are a little on the scary cheap side for me.. but I see that they have a feedback section now also.. nice.. If they are selling them for $6.70 each what do you think they are buying them for .. $3.00 each !?! Crazy.. Dave On 7/1/2011 10:13 AM, Andrew wrote: 2011/7/1 Davee...@dc9.tzo.com: I have used two different Sata compact flash adapters. 1. About $40 each - Addonics - model ADSACF. I bought several directly from their website. Similar to this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812174005cm_re=sata_compact_flash_adapter-_-12-174-005-_-Product 2. About $15 each Syba - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812186061cm_re=sata_compact_flash_adapter-_-12-186-061-_-Product I bought the cheapest CF SATA adapter http://www.dealextreme.com/p/compact-flash-cf-to-sata-hdd-converter-11164 Both work well. The Addonics might be a higher quality unit but I have had both running in systems for over a year now.I have one system that has been running the Addonics card and the memory card below for three years now. For memory, I tried a couple of different flash cards and found that these work well and I have used several with zero issues - about $18 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208340cm_re=compact_flash_8gb-_-20-208-340-_-Product and exacty the same Transcend 8GB x133 card on D525MW. Also works well, but Ubuntu starts pretty slow. Latency is near 8200 with HT disabled and isolcpus enabled, I expected better resuts. Probably some BIOS settings might improve it a little? Andrew Boot time is quick, although a faster card might make it even quicker. So for about $33 you can have a diskless system that is easy to maintain. For laptop hard drives I have found that these are reliable: $39.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148443 I'm not a fan of WD drives. I have had problems with them. Seagates seem to be much more reliable. Dave On 6/30/2011 10:14 PM, Jon Elson wrote: Dave wrote: Neil, If you are going for cheap, consider using a 8 gig Compact Flash Card in a Sata to CF card adapter. I have a few running in machines now for a couple of years with zero issues. I can tell you exactly what parts I am using if you want to go that route. 8 gigs is plenty of space for Ubuntu 10.04 and EMC2. I believe I have 5 gigs of free space or so. Yes, I'd like to know. On a lot of these things, there are some models that work, and some that cause problems. Jon -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___
Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question
Dave wrote: I have used two different Sata compact flash adapters. Thanks much for the data! I'm not a fan of WD drives. I have had problems with them. Seagates seem to be much more reliable. Yeah, the WD drive on my kid's computer had a failure in the power-off head locking mechanism. I had to open it up to defeat that feature, but may have scratched the disks while messing with it. Sometime I'll have to try to recover the data. That kind of stuff shouldn't happen. I am a lot more careful about backing up MY systems. Jon -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question
I have a friend that runs a data recovery service. Not cheap but not bad if you must have that data. He has had professional training, done it for a while, invested in the right toys, but it is his sideline. If you are interested, send me your contact information off-line and I will have him contact you. WD have had a long term bad rap with me. Seagate is better, but still no the absolute. Various companies hold top honors from time to time, but eventually old age, technology changes, a bad batch with infant mortality problems, etc ... bad disks come from even the best vendor. Warranties have also gone down hill, and they work hard at keeping you from exercising them when something does happen. But most vendors, if you have the documentation, will do what they say, but only just. Don't expect anything over what they state explicitly. ... Jack 'been burnt to many times not to be skeptical' Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart... Colossians 3:23 On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: Dave wrote: I have used two different Sata compact flash adapters. Thanks much for the data! I'm not a fan of WD drives. I have had problems with them. Seagates seem to be much more reliable. Yeah, the WD drive on my kid's computer had a failure in the power-off head locking mechanism. I had to open it up to defeat that feature, but may have scratched the disks while messing with it. Sometime I'll have to try to recover the data. That kind of stuff shouldn't happen. I am a lot more careful about backing up MY systems. Jon -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question
On 07/01/2011 09:34 AM, Jon Elson wrote: Dave wrote: I have used two different Sata compact flash adapters. Thanks much for the data! I'm not a fan of WD drives. I have had problems with them. Seagates seem to be much more reliable. Yeah, the WD drive on my kid's computer had a failure in the power-off head locking mechanism. I had to open it up to defeat that feature, but may have scratched the disks while messing with it. Sometime I'll have to try to recover the data. That kind of stuff shouldn't happen. I am a lot more careful about backing up MY systems. Check out ddrescue. I've used it with success. It's especially good if you don't need the entire contents of the drive. Karl -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question
2011/7/1 Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com: ..what do you think they are buying them for .. $3.00 each !?! Crazy.. I think that You are close - I bought 3 exactly-looking Sata-to-CF adapters on e-bay from chinese seller for 4 USD a piece (and I think that price included the shipping, don't remember correctly). Viesturs -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question
On 30 June 2011 05:07, Neil emc_d...@narwani.org wrote: Can anyone recommend a mini-ITX (or other small) motherboard that will work with ubuntu/EMC2? As Visteurs said, Intel D510MO, 1GB of RAM, 8GB DOM SATA drive and a PicoPSU makes a very good, no-moving-parts EMC2 machine with low latency. http://www.mini-box.com/D510MO-mini-ITX-Intel (cheaper elsewhere) http://www.mini-box.com/SATA-Flash-Modules (cheaper on eBay) http://www.mini-box.com/PicoPSU-80-WI-32V (cheaper on eBay) -- atp Torque wrenches are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question
2011/6/30 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com: http://www.mini-box.com/SATA-Flash-Modules (cheaper on eBay) Uhh, those SATA modules are pretty pricey. I used this one in the welding robot: http://www.kingston.com/ukroot/ssd/v_series.asp In my country 30GB version costs less than 100 USD. Price is better and capacity also is larger. And performance is great too. Sometimes during the loading the OS it does not even display that Ubuntu logo with those five dots under it. I am in love with SSDs now. Viesturs -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question
On 30 June 2011 12:02, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/6/30 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com: http://www.mini-box.com/SATA-Flash-Modules (cheaper on eBay) Uhh, those SATA modules are pretty pricey. Yes, that URL was just illustrative. I am using http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Black-MLC-Flash-DOM-Disk-Module-8GB-7PIN-SATA-SSD-/150593568661 -- atp Torque wrenches are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question
On 6/30/2011 5:40 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2011/6/30 Neilemc_d...@narwani.org: Can anyone recommend a mini-ITX (or other small) motherboard that will work with ubuntu/EMC2? D510MO (and its new replacement D525MW) is definitely worth it. Costing100USD (and You get both - mainboard and CPU for that price) they are very good for the job - latency numbers are pretty nice. I have used both of them. Other users also have reported positive feedback about D510MO here on the mailing list. None of these boards have PATA, but there are cheap SATA HDDs available. And adding a GB of RAM will give You a working PC for less than 200USD. Eric: I agree with Viesturs about the D510M0. I used to have one but turned it over to Stuart Stevenson during the last emc fest. I expect to get a D525MW or successor for my next project. Just a couple of points. First, the parallel port on the Intel D510M0 is not brought out to a back connector. You'll have to make or buy a cable that terminates on one end with a socket to match the internal connector (see the manual for location and pinout info) and on the other end with whatever you want. According to its manual, the D525MW does have a back connector for the parallel port. Second, there is an error in the BIOS code of the D510M0 that causes it to report its parallel port settings incorrectly. The port itself is working properly, but software like emc assumes the BIOS is telling the truth. Release 2.4.6 of emc2 includes a workaround for this. Viesturs...do you happen to know if the D525MW contains the same BIOS bug? Regards, Kent -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question
On 6/30/2011 12:07 AM, Neil wrote: Hi all, New to this list. I've been working with some high schoolers doing engineering/robotics stuff and we built a nice 3+ axis stepper driven workcell ... http://www.veisystems.com/nose/rw.html . Originally we set it up to work with a Mini-ITX motherboard, but it does not like Ubuntu. Since it's an older mobo (EPIA 800), I'm thinking I'll just get something more updated, and *proven* to work with ubuntu. But not coming up with much, other than 2 options on the hardware latency page. Can anyone recommend a mini-ITX (or other small) motherboard that will work with ubuntu/EMC2? I know EMC2 doesn't need any fancy specs, so hopefully I can get something for under $100, though more is fine if necessary. Also, would be nice if it supports PATA as I have a number of those drives laying around. Newegg has a number of low-cost options, but I don't know if EMC2 will run on it. BTW, if there's a doc that has this info, sorry for the post and I'd appreciate a link. Thanks, -Neil. Neil. I tip my hat to you for working with high schoolers on technical matters. I wish more people did. I have spent a fair amount of time with several FIRST Robotics teams and I know how frustrating, fun, frustrating, and rewarding it can be. Despite my packrat nature, I'd say dump the PATA drives. There's nothing more frustrating than the mysterious errors that start cropping up as hard drives begin to fail. Regards, Kent -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On 6/30/2011 8:58 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2011/6/30 Kent A. Reedknbr...@erols.com: First, the parallel port on the Intel D510M0 is not brought out to a back connector. According to its manual, the D525MW does have a back connector for the parallel port. Yes, that is why I love D510 and why I was disappointed with D525 - using Mesa's 7i43 is so convinient with D510, because one can fit it in any ATX case and the D510-to-7i43 cable remains inside the case, which is not possible with D525 - for the welding robot I had to figure out, how can I nicely bring that 26pin ribbon cable back in the case. Unfortunately I did not find D525 version with LPT as a header pins on the mainboard. I would really like that. These constant and seemingly random variations in motherboard design make me wonder if anyone is in charge. I find myself having to fill out a combination spreadsheet/checklist every time I look at the offerings from my favorite online vendors. The local bricks-and-mortar stores are hopeless when it comes to motherboards (and pretty much everything else for that matter). Since my drivers are in a separate case it never occurred to me that lacking an internal connector would be a disadvantage:-) Glad to hear the D525 is working for you. Perhaps you could update the wiki entries for both boards? I'd do the D510 but I no longer have one. Regards, Kent -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Cool. Will investigate. I do have one SATA drive laying around, so that's really no problem -- just considered the PATA since I have many of those and as time passes it gets tougher to make use of those. From a quick glance, it looks like it has a parallel port connector on the board (no back-panel connector), which is fine. We will definitely need parallel for other things, so I have to verify it's an active connector. Thanks, -Neil. Quoting Viesturs L?cis viesturs.la...@gmail.com: 2011/6/30 Neil emc_d...@narwani.org: Can anyone recommend a mini-ITX (or other small) motherboard that will work with ubuntu/EMC2? D510MO (and its new replacement D525MW) is definitely worth it. Costing 100USD (and You get both - mainboard and CPU for that price) they are very good for the job - latency numbers are pretty nice. I have used both of them. Other users also have reported positive feedback about D510MO here on the mailing list. None of these boards have PATA, but there are cheap SATA HDDs available. And adding a GB of RAM will give You a working PC for less than 200USD. Viesturs -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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I do have a SATA drive laying around, but really considering an SSD since the PC is built onto the unit and will see some vibration. Newegg has this 60GB unit on sale for $90... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227550Tpk=OCZSSD2-2VTXE60G I'll need this extra space since the machine will be setup for dual-boot with WinXP. For a power-supply, I have a home-brew mini ATX PS which works well, but I need to go back through my design docs to ensure it can supply enough power for this mobo. Cheers, -Neil. Quoting andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com: As Visteurs said, Intel D510MO, 1GB of RAM, 8GB DOM SATA drive and a PicoPSU makes a very good, no-moving-parts EMC2 machine with low latency. http://www.mini-box.com/D510MO-mini-ITX-Intel (cheaper elsewhere) http://www.mini-box.com/SATA-Flash-Modules (cheaper on eBay) http://www.mini-box.com/PicoPSU-80-WI-32V (cheaper on eBay) -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On 30 June 2011 15:48, Neil emc_d...@narwani.org wrote: Newegg has this 60GB unit on sale for $90... I'll need this extra space since the machine will be setup for dual-boot with WinXP. For the incremental cost of the larger SSD you can very nearly buy a second PC to run Windows on... My Atom runs from an 80W PicoPSU, supplied with 12V from the same PSU that runs the touchscreen and other electronics. Effectively the motherboard becomes just another device in the system case. -- atp Torque wrenches are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Quoting Kent A. Reed knbr...@erols.com: ... Just a couple of points. First, the parallel port on the Intel D510M0 is not brought out to a back connector. You'll have to make or buy a cable that terminates on one end with a socket to match the internal connector (see the manual for location and pinout info) and on the other end with whatever you want. According to its manual, the D525MW does have a back connector for the parallel port. Second, there is an error in the BIOS code of the D510M0 that causes it to report its parallel port settings incorrectly. The port itself is working properly, but software like emc assumes the BIOS is telling the truth. Release 2.4.6 of emc2 includes a workaround for this. Viesturs...do you happen to know if the D525MW contains the same BIOS bug? Regards, Kent I just found the same thing here... http://communities.intel.com/thread/12655 And wondering the exact thing about the D525MW. EMC2 having a workaround for it is excellent, but we'll also use this machine with WinXP (for some 3D printing software and perhaps Mach3), so it would be nice to know the hardware works properly. Anyone here actually used this D525MW? Cheers, -Neil. -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Quoting Kent A. Reed knbr...@erols.com: Neil. I tip my hat to you for working with high schoolers on technical matters. I wish more people did. I have spent a fair amount of time with several FIRST Robotics teams and I know how frustrating, fun, frustrating, and rewarding it can be. Despite my packrat nature, I'd say dump the PATA drives. There's nothing more frustrating than the mysterious errors that start cropping up as hard drives begin to fail. Regards, Kent Thanks. FIRST sucked away a LOT of my time, but was an excellent experience. Now though, I don't have to deal with the school's politics, so this has it's advantages. I just hate throwing things away, and have about 5 PATA 2.5 drives, two of which are quite new 120GB units. But I'm willing to pick up whatever works well. Reliability is key, which is why the SSD is tempting. FWIW, I know there are SATA to PATA adapters, but really don't know if to trust those. Cheers, -Neil. -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Quoting Viesturs L?cis viesturs.la...@gmail.com: 2011/6/30 Kent A. Reed knbr...@erols.com: First, the parallel port on the Intel D510M0 is not brought out to a back connector. According to its manual, the D525MW does have a back connector for the parallel port. Yes, that is why I love D510 and why I was disappointed with D525 - using Mesa's 7i43 is so convinient with D510, because one can fit it in any ATX case and the D510-to-7i43 cable remains inside the case, which is not possible with D525 - for the welding robot I had to figure out, how can I nicely bring that 26pin ribbon cable back in the case. Unfortunately I did not find D525 version with LPT as a header pins on the mainboard. I would really like that. So the Mesa looks like a breakout card of sorts. With the D525MW, I won't need this extra card, and that would be nicer. The 26-pin cable you'd need this (which I ordered last night for my Biostar Shuttle PC)... http://www.meritline.com/idc26-db25-motherboard-parallel-port-connector-cable---p-44574.aspx I'm sure you can easily make a connector for the reverse method (DB25-F to 0.1 IDC connector), plugged into the port at the back of the computer. Willing to bet MESA would have a cable assembly like this already. Viesturs...do you happen to know if the D525MW contains the same BIOS bug? Honestly - I have no idea. Everything works :) That board has Mesa 7i43 attached to LPT port and everything is working out of the box. My question too. Still googling, and have not found anything negative about it. -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Found this interesting thread... http://www.linuxcnc.org/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,20/func,view/id,6347/catid,9/limit,6/limitstart,0/lang,english/ Quoting Neil emc_d...@narwani.org: ... Viesturs...do you happen to know if the D525MW contains the same BIOS bug? Honestly - I have no idea. Everything works :) That board has Mesa 7i43 attached to LPT port and everything is working out of the box. My question too. Still googling, and have not found anything negative about it. -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On 30 June 2011 16:00, Neil emc_d...@narwani.org wrote: Second, there is an error in the BIOS code of the D510M0 that causes it to report its parallel port settings incorrectly. And wondering the exact thing about the D525MW. EMC2 having a workaround for it is excellent, but we'll also use this machine with WinXP (for some 3D printing software and perhaps Mach3), The bug only matters if you want to use the port for EPP communications. (Mesa or Pico cards). if you are simply using the pins as individual IO lines it doesn't matter at all. As that is all that Mach knows how to do (to the best of my knowledge) it is a non-issue. -- atp Torque wrenches are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On 30 June 2011 16:13, Neil emc_d...@narwani.org wrote: So the Mesa looks like a breakout card of sorts. It's rather more than that. The closest equivalent in the Mach3 world would be the SmoothStepper, but the 7i43 can do PWM, serial, SPI, count encoders, make the tea... -- atp Torque wrenches are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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I have been using SSDs for a while and I have had more problems with them than with mechanical hard drives, especially with intensive use. They are very fast but I am not convinced of their long term reliability. At least when they do fail it is usually failure to write rather than loss of existing data... Les On 30/06/2011 16:05, Neil wrote: I just hate throwing things away, and have about 5 PATA 2.5 drives, two of which are quite new 120GB units. But I'm willing to pick up whatever works well. Reliability is key, which is why the SSD is tempting. FWIW, I know there are SATA to PATA adapters, but really don't know if to trust those. Cheers, -Neil. -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On 6/30/2011 11:22 AM, Neil wrote: Found this interesting thread... http://www.linuxcnc.org/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,20/func,view/id,6347/catid,9/limit,6/limitstart,0/lang,english/ Quoting Neilemc_d...@narwani.org: ... Viesturs...do you happen to know if the D525MW contains the same BIOS bug? Honestly - I have no idea. Everything works :) That board has Mesa 7i43 attached to LPT port and everything is working out of the box. com My question too. Still googling, and have not found anything negative about it. As usual, the posters neglect to tell us vital information, in this case, the BIOS version of their D525MW motherboard. I just checked the Intel site and found the latest BIOS appears to be 0080 dated 4/29/2011. The cumulative release notes suggest a number of fixes related to Linux (re)booting but nothing related to the parallel port. It's distressing that the BIOS bug relating to the parallel port seems to have persisted over several Atom motherboard design-cycles The first relevant post I saw on communities.intel.com was dated 4/19/2010 and I was the only one to reply to it. We never found a way to whack the appropriate Intel Product Manager upside the head. The managers obviously don't monitor their user site, probably because of the number of nasty-grams that are posted. Somedays I think I should delve into the BIOS and fix it myself. Then I take my meds and come back to earth. Of course, another approach is to use an add-on parallel port card, but they are getting harder to find and it ties up the only motherboard slot. I still think the D525MW remains a good bet for EMC2. Andy is correct that the BIOS bug doesn't matter but some software doesn't know that it doesn't matter :-) Fortunately, EMC 2.4.6 does. Regards, Kent -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Neil, you already have a system that functions. If you need a windows machine, would you not be well enough off to just utilize it for your windows based software? -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Coming to a similar conclusion. Mach3 has created a low-level driver that accesses the parallel port directly, so won't work with USB to parallel adapters, nor most parallel ISA/PCI cards. However, you're right that Mach3 may not need EPP/ECP modes. More importantly, I am wondering why we would need Mach3 on this machine. Any custom software we're writing is in Linux, EMC2 (which will handle pick-and-place stuff) has it's workaround, and WinXP is for the 3D printer stuff , which uses the serial port/USB. Think I'm good to go with this. Thanks for the replies. Cheers, -Neil. Quoting andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com: On 30 June 2011 16:00, Neil emc_d...@narwani.org wrote: Second, there is an error in the BIOS code of the D510M0 that causes it to report its parallel port settings incorrectly. And wondering the exact thing about the D525MW. EMC2 having a workaround for it is excellent, but we'll also use this machine with WinXP (for some 3D printing software and perhaps Mach3), The bug only matters if you want to use the port for EPP communications. (Mesa or Pico cards). if you are simply using the pins as individual IO lines it doesn't matter at all. As that is all that Mach knows how to do (to the best of my knowledge) it is a non-issue. -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Maybe I over-simplified. It's sort of a glorified breakout. My understanding of the smoothstepper is that it is a motion control card (ie: handles acceleration, etc), whereas I don't see that the 7i43 does that. Cheers, -Neil. Quoting andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com: On 30 June 2011 16:13, Neil emc_d...@narwani.org wrote: So the Mesa looks like a breakout card of sorts. It's rather more than that. The closest equivalent in the Mach3 world would be the SmoothStepper, but the 7i43 can do PWM, serial, SPI, count encoders, make the tea... -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Quoting Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com: I would consider using the drives you have and set up RAID. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID Funny enough, my existing EPIA800 mobo started life ~8yrs ago as a car MP3 player, hence the custom power supply. But the drive crashed on hard bumps, so I got pulled into duty as a mini RAID file server with 2 60GB PATA drives. I was looking to upgrade about 4 yrs ago so got the 2 120GB drives, but never did the conversion. Hence those two drives floating around. In my opinion, for motherboards, try to use what you can get cheap or free. I like older complete PC's such as a full or small form Dell's or similar. http://www.geeks.com/products.asp?cat=SYS or eBay To me, trying to get a tiny PC (or notebook, laptop, etcetera) to work with an EMC2 machine just adds more needless work, unless you happen to carry your CNC around in your pocket. Any motherboard I would consider would need at least three PCI slots of some variety, so that cheap add-on parallel port cards could be used (despite rumors, parallel ports are not going away anytime soon). http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?EMC2_Supported_Hardware (see parallel port card section) Laptops are generally not good for any type of real-time control, but my small mobo requirement comes from us trying to make everything as compact as possible with the on-board PC. Would've done a larger mobo if that was the only answer, but with a workable Mini-ITX option, everything will be nice and compact and will fit in the existing enclosure (with only small mods to the back panel cutouts). I avoid using the motherboard parallel port, so when I blow up the port, I don't have to replace the whole motherboard or PC. ... Agreed. For this though, I always use a buffered/isolated breakout board. And also because many parallel ports don't provide a full 5V, or very low current. ... Another pet peeve, the EMC2 PC should stay with the machine it is intended to run. If you need a PC for another application, get another PC. Correct. This will be dedicated, and installed on the machine. My CNC mill for example runs Mach 3 on a dedicated mobo, all integrated nicely into an enclosure with the stepper drivers, etc. I should stop talking about Mach3 here on this list, especially since I'm not going to need that anymore. :) Cheers, -Neil. -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On Thu, 30 Jun 2011, Neil wrote: Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 10:29:36 -0700 From: Neil emc_d...@narwani.org Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question Maybe I over-simplified. It's sort of a glorified breakout. My understanding of the smoothstepper is that it is a motion control card (ie: handles acceleration, etc), whereas I don't see that the 7i43 does that. I dont think the smooth stepper handles acceleration, basically its a rate generator just like the 7I43s stepgen. Acceleration management is not needed in the low level hardware unless you have quite slow update rates (say less than 1 KHz) Acceleration would be easy to add to 7I43s stepgen but with EMCs 1KHz update rate the accuracy gains are miniscule and the overhead of the additional register access would be substantial. Cheers, -Neil. Quoting andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com: On 30 June 2011 16:13, Neil emc_d...@narwani.org wrote: So the Mesa looks like a breakout card of sorts. It's rather more than that. The closest equivalent in the Mach3 world would be the SmoothStepper, but the 7i43 can do PWM, serial, SPI, count encoders, make the tea... -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On 6/30/2011 1:42 PM, Neil wrote: I should stop talking about Mach3 here on this list, especially since I'm not going to need that anymore.:) That's ok Neil we all have our things in our past that we need to deal with BTW, my name is Dave and I was a Machaholic... ;-) Dave -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 04:54:02PM -0400, Dave wrote: Neil, If you are going for cheap, consider using a 8 gig Compact Flash Card in a Sata to CF card adapter. I have a few running in machines now for a couple of years with zero issues. I have this on two machines as well. -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Dave wrote: Neil, If you are going for cheap, consider using a 8 gig Compact Flash Card in a Sata to CF card adapter. I have a few running in machines now for a couple of years with zero issues. I can tell you exactly what parts I am using if you want to go that route. 8 gigs is plenty of space for Ubuntu 10.04 and EMC2. I believe I have 5 gigs of free space or so. Yes, I'd like to know. On a lot of these things, there are some models that work, and some that cause problems. Jon -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: I do not have access to that machine, so there is no way for me to check. BTW how can I do it? I have never tried to find out, what BIOS version any of my PCs is running. You can see it when the machine boots up, but it's easier to check it on the running Linux system by running the 'dmidecode' program; on my machine, it prints the BIOS info in the first record: Handle 0x, DMI type 0, 24 bytes BIOS Information Vendor: American Megatrends Inc. Version: V2.3 Release Date: 12/10/2009 Address: 0xF Runtime Size: 64 kB ROM Size: 1024 kB (...followed by a ton of info about BIOS and other hardware aspects of my computer) -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
