Re: [E-devel] Mailing list headaches

2018-03-30 Thread Carsten Haitzler 
On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 07:34:13 +0200 Jonathan Aquilina 
said:

> Hi Raster,
> 
> My server was grey listing the emails I have so far allowed in the
> trusted hosts lists the ip address that i saw logged and have fixed the
> greylisting issue on my end I am still though having issues with other
> mailing lists but tits rather hard to constantly monitor they
> greylisting logs.

this is life with email i guess... email is simple but its the sheer volume of
abuse (spam) world-wide that has caused everyone to be  very paranoid and
strict about their mailservers. it's the nature of email. :(

> Granted I will be putting clients on this server I am not to keen on
> removing grey listing.

my mailserver greylists. i don't run it. a friend does, but i know how he
configures it. so it's working for me. he;'s been running mail servers for like
over 20 years both as a hobby and a profession. so i can only assume something
you've done is making sf.net unhappy which others doing greylisting do not do.
beyond that i can't really help as i have no details and it's not really my
expertise.

> On 29/03/2018 13:23, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 06:38:53 +0200 Jonathan Aquilina
> >  said:
> > 
> >> I have a more annoying problem that my emails are bouncing for some
> >> reason or were but I think i fixed that with my grey list filter.
> > 
> > well i'm seeing your mails. you fixed your mailserver to deal with
> > greylisting properly you mean? sf.net was greylisting you?
> > 
> >> On 29/03/2018 05:07, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 16:30:22 + jaquilina 
> >>> said:
> >>>
>  Can anyone confirm if my email regarding fedora packaging of bleeding 
>  edge enlightenment. are my emails getting through.
> >>>
> >>> i replied to one of them... this mail went through. though a few weeks
> >>> back sf.net had mail hiccups. they did some migration and this seemed to
> >>> have been the root cause. that seems to have settled now.
> >>>
>  On my cpanel email server in the delivery report logging I am seeing the 
>  following
> 
>  SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT 
>  TO:: 451-IPADDRESS is not yet 
>  authorized to deliver mail from\n451- to 
>  .\n451 Please try later.
> 
>  Regards,
>  Jonathan
> 
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Re: [E-devel] Mailing list headaches

2018-03-29 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
Hi Raster,

My server was grey listing the emails I have so far allowed in the
trusted hosts lists the ip address that i saw logged and have fixed the
greylisting issue on my end I am still though having issues with other
mailing lists but tits rather hard to constantly monitor they
greylisting logs.

Granted I will be putting clients on this server I am not to keen on
removing grey listing.

On 29/03/2018 13:23, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 06:38:53 +0200 Jonathan Aquilina 
> said:
> 
>> I have a more annoying problem that my emails are bouncing for some
>> reason or were but I think i fixed that with my grey list filter.
> 
> well i'm seeing your mails. you fixed your mailserver to deal with greylisting
> properly you mean? sf.net was greylisting you?
> 
>> On 29/03/2018 05:07, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 16:30:22 + jaquilina  said:
>>>
 Can anyone confirm if my email regarding fedora packaging of bleeding 
 edge enlightenment. are my emails getting through.
>>>
>>> i replied to one of them... this mail went through. though a few weeks back
>>> sf.net had mail hiccups. they did some migration and this seemed to have
>>> been the root cause. that seems to have settled now.
>>>
 On my cpanel email server in the delivery report logging I am seeing the 
 following

 SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT 
 TO:: 451-IPADDRESS is not yet 
 authorized to deliver mail from\n451- to 
 .\n451 Please try later.

 Regards,
 Jonathan

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>>>
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Re: [E-devel] Mailing list headaches

2018-03-29 Thread Carsten Haitzler 
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 06:38:53 +0200 Jonathan Aquilina 
said:

> I have a more annoying problem that my emails are bouncing for some
> reason or were but I think i fixed that with my grey list filter.

well i'm seeing your mails. you fixed your mailserver to deal with greylisting
properly you mean? sf.net was greylisting you?

> On 29/03/2018 05:07, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 16:30:22 + jaquilina  said:
> > 
> >> Can anyone confirm if my email regarding fedora packaging of bleeding 
> >> edge enlightenment. are my emails getting through.
> > 
> > i replied to one of them... this mail went through. though a few weeks back
> > sf.net had mail hiccups. they did some migration and this seemed to have
> > been the root cause. that seems to have settled now.
> > 
> >> On my cpanel email server in the delivery report logging I am seeing the 
> >> following
> >>
> >> SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT 
> >> TO:: 451-IPADDRESS is not yet 
> >> authorized to deliver mail from\n451- to 
> >> .\n451 Please try later.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Jonathan
> >>
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Re: [E-devel] Mailing list headaches

2018-03-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
I have a more annoying problem that my emails are bouncing for some
reason or were but I think i fixed that with my grey list filter.

On 29/03/2018 05:07, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 16:30:22 + jaquilina  said:
> 
>> Can anyone confirm if my email regarding fedora packaging of bleeding 
>> edge enlightenment. are my emails getting through.
> 
> i replied to one of them... this mail went through. though a few weeks back
> sf.net had mail hiccups. they did some migration and this seemed to have been
> the root cause. that seems to have settled now.
> 
>> On my cpanel email server in the delivery report logging I am seeing the 
>> following
>>
>> SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT 
>> TO:: 451-IPADDRESS is not yet 
>> authorized to deliver mail from\n451- to 
>> .\n451 Please try later.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jonathan
>>
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Re: [E-devel] Mailing list headaches

2018-03-28 Thread The Rasterman 
On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 16:30:22 + jaquilina  said:

> Can anyone confirm if my email regarding fedora packaging of bleeding 
> edge enlightenment. are my emails getting through.

i replied to one of them... this mail went through. though a few weeks back
sf.net had mail hiccups. they did some migration and this seemed to have been
the root cause. that seems to have settled now.

> On my cpanel email server in the delivery report logging I am seeing the 
> following
> 
> SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT 
> TO:: 451-IPADDRESS is not yet 
> authorized to deliver mail from\n451- to 
> .\n451 Please try later.
> 
> Regards,
> Jonathan
> 
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Re: [E-devel] Mailing list headaches

2018-03-28 Thread The Rasterman 
On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 17:27:13 + jaquilina  said:

> If the project is up for moving away from SF I am more then willing on 
> my cpanel server to setup an account for the mailing list and give 
> certain people access to manage the mailing list on my server as well if 
> they want to install mlmm or other filtering platform.
> 
> Would be great to get rid of the wonkyness.

it's back and working. the kind of wonkies that happen any time you do
migrations and major infra changes. it's not really that bad. sometimes sf.net
gets backlogs of a few hours or a day or 2. this time it dropped some mails for
a week or 2. it's back and working.

note - migrating mailing list means migrating users. we have no access to the
user list anymore. sf.net blocked that for "privacy reasons". so migrating is
much much much much harder because we can't just auto-migrate everyone over to
the new address. given that and just work required to migrate... i think sf.net
is going to have to get far worse to justify such a move. :)

> On 2018-03-28 17:21, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> > On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 16:30:22 +
> > jaquilina  wrote:
> > 
> >> Can anyone confirm if my email regarding fedora packaging of bleeding
> >> edge enlightenment. are my emails getting through.
> > 
> > Confirmed, you can also check online. I use that as confirmation.
> > https://sourceforge.net/p/enlightenment/mailman/enlightenment-devel/thread/111f5bb9961f45887cb845607eb706a6%40eagleeyet.net/#msg36278174
> > 
> > http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=enlightenment-devel
> > 
> > S.F. email is a bit wonky at times, but least they are still providing
> > such. As great as things like Github are. They provide nothing for
> > mailing lists, etc. Nice that S.F. still does. I have run some myself
> > and they do require effort. I ran ASSP in front of ezmlm, and had some
> > upset users It happens, spam is a PITA whack a mole game...
> > Though ASSP has made my life spam free for decades
> > https://sourceforge.net/projects/assp/
> > 
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Re: [E-devel] Mailing list headaches

2018-03-28 Thread William L. Thomson Jr. 
On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 17:27:13 +
jaquilina  wrote:

> If the project is up for moving away from SF

Sorry I did not mean to give that impression or confuse. I am an
outsider, I have no clue if there are any plans to move away from S.F.

> I am more then willing
> on my cpanel server to setup an account for the mailing list and give 
> certain people access to manage the mailing list on my server as well
> if they want to install mlmm or other filtering platform.

Likely could do the same on the server hosting other things for E. Nice
offer, but I think the project developers prefer to keep things in
house if they moved from S.F. Their call to make.

> Would be great to get rid of the wonkyness.

I agree, I have been bit by it as well. Some posts were delayed, and I
double posted... :P But I understand S.F. goal and headaches.

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Re: [E-devel] Mailing list headaches

2018-03-28 Thread jaquilina 
If the project is up for moving away from SF I am more then willing on 
my cpanel server to setup an account for the mailing list and give 
certain people access to manage the mailing list on my server as well if 
they want to install mlmm or other filtering platform.


Would be great to get rid of the wonkyness.

On 2018-03-28 17:21, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:

On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 16:30:22 +
jaquilina  wrote:


Can anyone confirm if my email regarding fedora packaging of bleeding
edge enlightenment. are my emails getting through.


Confirmed, you can also check online. I use that as confirmation.
https://sourceforge.net/p/enlightenment/mailman/enlightenment-devel/thread/111f5bb9961f45887cb845607eb706a6%40eagleeyet.net/#msg36278174

http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=enlightenment-devel

S.F. email is a bit wonky at times, but least they are still providing
such. As great as things like Github are. They provide nothing for
mailing lists, etc. Nice that S.F. still does. I have run some myself
and they do require effort. I ran ASSP in front of ezmlm, and had some
upset users It happens, spam is a PITA whack a mole game...
Though ASSP has made my life spam free for decades
https://sourceforge.net/projects/assp/

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Re: [E-devel] Mailing list headaches

2018-03-28 Thread William L. Thomson Jr. 
On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 16:30:22 +
jaquilina  wrote:

> Can anyone confirm if my email regarding fedora packaging of bleeding 
> edge enlightenment. are my emails getting through.

Confirmed, you can also check online. I use that as confirmation.
https://sourceforge.net/p/enlightenment/mailman/enlightenment-devel/thread/111f5bb9961f45887cb845607eb706a6%40eagleeyet.net/#msg36278174

http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=enlightenment-devel

S.F. email is a bit wonky at times, but least they are still providing
such. As great as things like Github are. They provide nothing for
mailing lists, etc. Nice that S.F. still does. I have run some myself
and they do require effort. I ran ASSP in front of ezmlm, and had some
upset users It happens, spam is a PITA whack a mole game...
Though ASSP has made my life spam free for decades
https://sourceforge.net/projects/assp/

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[E-devel] Mailing list headaches

2018-03-28 Thread jaquilina 
Can anyone confirm if my email regarding fedora packaging of bleeding 
edge enlightenment. are my emails getting through.


On my cpanel email server in the delivery report logging I am seeing the 
following


SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT 
TO:: 451-IPADDRESS is not yet 
authorized to deliver mail from\n451- to 
.\n451 Please try later.


Regards,
Jonathan

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