Re: [E-devel] This trac is a shit [Fwd: #1900: SIGSEGV OpenBSD]

2012-12-01 Thread Cedric BAIL
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 12:20 PM, rustyBSD  wrote:
> I took 10 minutes to create a ticket, after 4 unsuccessful
> attemps, because
>
>  SPANK SPANK SERVER IS DOWN

Yes, e2 is almost completely overloaded. We have a new beefy server,
e5, waiting to be configured and get service migrated to it, but
nobody seems to have the time to do it.

> Now that it works I wrongly hoped that I could join the backtrace,
> and now it tells me
>
>  Submission rejected as potential spam
>
> So, here is the backtrace.

Ah ah ah. He has some spirit, mike did you do that to get less bug report ? :-)
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Re: [E-devel] This trac is a shit [Fwd: #1900: SIGSEGV OpenBSD]

2012-12-01 Thread Michael Blumenkrantz
On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 12:30:51 +0100
Cedric BAIL  wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 12:20 PM, rustyBSD  wrote:
> > I took 10 minutes to create a ticket, after 4 unsuccessful
> > attemps, because
> >
> >  SPANK SPANK SERVER IS DOWN
> 
> Yes, e2 is almost completely overloaded. We have a new beefy server,
> e5, waiting to be configured and get service migrated to it, but
> nobody seems to have the time to do it.
> 
> > Now that it works I wrongly hoped that I could join the backtrace,
> > and now it tells me
> >
> >  Submission rejected as potential spam
> >
> > So, here is the backtrace.
> 
> Ah ah ah. He has some spirit, mike did you do that to get less bug report ? 
> :-)
> --
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> 

I guess I'll have to add a filter to the mailing list to block text attachments 
next...

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Re: [E-devel] This trac is a shit [Fwd: #1900: SIGSEGV OpenBSD]

2012-12-01 Thread Dave
 In the year 2012, of the month of December, on the 1st day, Cedric BAIL wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 12:20 PM, rustyBSD  wrote:
> > I took 10 minutes to create a ticket, after 4 unsuccessful
> > attemps, because
> >
> >  SPANK SPANK SERVER IS DOWN
> 
> Yes, e2 is almost completely overloaded. We have a new beefy server,
> e5, waiting to be configured and get service migrated to it, but
> nobody seems to have the time to do it.

 I'm an experienced unix and database admin.  I could volunteer to move the
service over, if you like.  That is, if you trust a maillist lurker like me.
I trust myself, if that's any help.  ;)


> > Now that it works I wrongly hoped that I could join the backtrace,
> > and now it tells me
> >
> >  Submission rejected as potential spam
> >
> > So, here is the backtrace.
> 
> Ah ah ah. He has some spirit, mike did you do that to get less bug report ? 
> :-)
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Re: [E-devel] This trac is a shit [Fwd: #1900: SIGSEGV OpenBSD]

2012-12-02 Thread Robert Krambovitis
> From: "Dave" 
> To: "Enlightenment developer list" 
> Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2012 5:46:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [E-devel] This trac is a shit [Fwd: #1900: SIGSEGV OpenBSD]
> 
> In the year 2012, of the month of December, on the 1st day, Cedric
> BAIL wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 12:20 PM, rustyBSD  wrote:
> > > I took 10 minutes to create a ticket, after 4 unsuccessful
> > > attemps, because
> > >
> > >  SPANK SPANK SERVER IS DOWN
> > 
> > Yes, e2 is almost completely overloaded. We have a new beefy
> > server,
> > e5, waiting to be configured and get service migrated to it, but
> > nobody seems to have the time to do it.
> 
>  I'm an experienced unix and database admin.  I could volunteer to
>  move the
> service over, if you like.  That is, if you trust a maillist lurker
> like me.
> I trust myself, if that's any help.  ;)
> 
> 
> > > Now that it works I wrongly hoped that I could join the
> > > backtrace,
> > > and now it tells me
> > >
> > >  Submission rejected as potential spam
> > >
> > > So, here is the backtrace.
> > 
> > Ah ah ah. He has some spirit, mike did you do that to get less bug
> > report ? :-)
> > --
> > Cedric BAIL
> > 

If it's linux, I'd like to volunteer to help also.

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Re: [E-devel] This trac is a shit [Fwd: #1900: SIGSEGV OpenBSD]

2013-01-03 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 14:46:34 +1100 Dave  said:

>  In the year 2012, of the month of December, on the 1st day, Cedric BAIL
> wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 12:20 PM, rustyBSD  wrote:
> > > I took 10 minutes to create a ticket, after 4 unsuccessful
> > > attemps, because
> > >
> > >  SPANK SPANK SERVER IS DOWN
> > 
> > Yes, e2 is almost completely overloaded. We have a new beefy server,
> > e5, waiting to be configured and get service migrated to it, but
> > nobody seems to have the time to do it.
> 
>  I'm an experienced unix and database admin.  I could volunteer to move the
> service over, if you like.  That is, if you trust a maillist lurker like me.
> I trust myself, if that's any help.  ;)

actually we could do with people to help with:

1. server maintenance
2. website maintenance and improvement. we really need a "web team".

right now we are setting up what we call "e5". e5 (e5.enlightenment.org) is our
new server. it's sitting in osuosl. beber just re-installed it with gentoo and
set up some stuff. the goal is to use kvm+qemu for vm's. we have a dedicated ip
addr for the vms vs the host (e5v.enlightenment.org for the vm's to share).

we can argue what vm to use all day - but the decision for kvm+qemu is based on
the fact that osuosl ALSO offer a vm host farm that they offered us to use if
we want, so we want our vm's to already be compatible with it if we choose to
make use of it. sure - it may not be the "most efficient" but it'll be good
enough... the hardware is good. the new server is:

2x 2.2ghz E5's (so 8 real cores, 8 threads across 2 full cpu's)
48gb ram
2x60gb ssd's raid1'd (full redundancy, 2x read rates)
4x1tb sata drivers (should be raid10'd into 1x2gb lvm, used to be, not
currently - beber needs to re-format/set it up - so we should get full
redundancy and 2x read rates)
1xGbit eth

this is the host on which we will run vm's. the host will do basically nothing
but provide data storage, memory and compute  power. once its set up/working
we'll not touch it and just keep it security updated where needed. no actual
services will run on it.. they will ALL run on vm's

now qemu has a "host fs mount" (-virtfs i think) that allows u to expose the FS
from the host o the vm client. this should provide for nice ability to share
files directly between vm's and a way to easily "Expand data for a vm"... so a
vm ends up a vm rootfs image + launch config (ip etc.) + maybe some host fs dir
archive that it may also share with others.

why vm's? after years we've ended up screwing with our server and it ending up
a bit of a mess. never again. we can make vm's and throw them away when done.
we can install any distro we like. get tired of it? make a new vm with a
different distro and bring it online, then just re-jig routing and presto. we
can also now perform regular suspend/resumes and snapshots for backups. we can
take those backups and copy them to LOCAL desktop machines at home and even run
them. we can create and set up these vm's "at home" and upload when ready. this
will lay the basics for adding vm's for bsd, windows, osx and other os's we can
"get to run in kvm/qemu". we can even run ARM vm's (of course totally emulated
and slow - but hey... we can have them). this allows for us to make bigger
build and test farms and when/if needed we can punt off vm's into osuosl's vm
cloud.

so what do we need?

well first we need a router vm. all network has to be routed here as we need to
share port 80 and thus have to reverse-squid (haproxy) it to N possible vm's
hidden behind a "inside host machine nat". this is the onyl way we can share
port 80 sanely. otherwise we also need to set up ip/port forwarding for other
ports and services to specific vm's. this router vm needs to go up.

then we need to make a vm with the current www site - just www. not trac etc.

we then need a vm with CURRENT trac+svn set up and working so we can bring it
online and keep working.

we'd be smart to make a SEPARATE download vm just to make it easier to
isolate/track.

it'd be nice to mode www.e.org/ss to a vm for user provided content (along with
exchange etc.).

we need a new vm with git + phabricator for moving to git. when this is ready,
bring it online and then look at migrating projects from svn+trac to git+phab.
when we have migrated it all over, we decommission trac+svn vm and never see it
again.

we need a buildbot vm. we need a doc generating/hosting vm (building docs
requires we compile all of efl fyi and so it needs to compile efl ANd then
install the compiled docs too). we can set up vm's for other os builds etc. as
needed... we could balance out some services too. e1 and e2 (our 2 very old
servers in osuosl) will go away, but e3 & e4 are 2 more we have running in
france. they currently do a bunch of buildbot work. we can have them do more.
they are just very limited in storage space.

nb - exactly what vm's come up and what they look like is a flexible detail,
but we NEED a router vm. we NEED a trac+svn vm, we N

Re: [E-devel] This trac is a shit [Fwd: #1900: SIGSEGV OpenBSD]

2013-01-04 Thread Jérémy Zurcher
On Friday 04 January 2013  16:10, Carsten Haitzler wrote :
> On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 14:46:34 +1100 Dave  said:
> 
> >  In the year 2012, of the month of December, on the 1st day, Cedric BAIL
> > wrote:
> > > On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 12:20 PM, rustyBSD  wrote:
> > > > I took 10 minutes to create a ticket, after 4 unsuccessful
> > > > attemps, because
> > > >
> > > >  SPANK SPANK SERVER IS DOWN
> > > 
> > > Yes, e2 is almost completely overloaded. We have a new beefy server,
> > > e5, waiting to be configured and get service migrated to it, but
> > > nobody seems to have the time to do it.
> > 
> >  I'm an experienced unix and database admin.  I could volunteer to move the
> > service over, if you like.  That is, if you trust a maillist lurker like me.
> > I trust myself, if that's any help.  ;)
> 
> actually we could do with people to help with:
> 
> 1. server maintenance
> 2. website maintenance and improvement. we really need a "web team".
> 

part of my job is to maintain debian servers in Vmware infra
and debian workstations as virtualbox hosts for XP clients.
My workstations are on archlinux but I used gentoo a years ago.

I'm available to deploy stuff, write maintenance bash scripts
and supply regular server maintenance. Let me know.

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Re: [E-devel] This trac is a shit [Fwd: #1900: SIGSEGV OpenBSD]

2013-01-05 Thread Dave
 The plan seems sensible enough.  I'll be happy to help out whatever way I
can.

 Virtual machines, well as far as performance goes, if the vm is doing the
job fast enough, I don't really care what technology is used.  I haven't used
kvm before, but shouldn't be too hard to work it out.

 I'm not too sure of the benefits of a reverse proxy in this instance.
It's easy enough to let iptables do dnat or load balancing, plus it's more
convenient from an administration/maintenance perspective.

 By the sounds of it, top priority is migrating all services on e2 to a vm on
the e5 system.  Which can't happen, until the vm host and router vm is
active.  So, if monsieur beber needs help with any of these, my email address
can be found above.

 Cheers,
 dave.k
 

 In the year 2013, of the month of January, on the 4th day, Carsten Haitzler 
wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 14:46:34 +1100 Dave  said:
> 
> >  In the year 2012, of the month of December, on the 1st day, Cedric BAIL
> > wrote:
> > > On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 12:20 PM, rustyBSD  wrote:
> > > > I took 10 minutes to create a ticket, after 4 unsuccessful
> > > > attemps, because
> > > >
> > > >  SPANK SPANK SERVER IS DOWN
> > > 
> > > Yes, e2 is almost completely overloaded. We have a new beefy server,
> > > e5, waiting to be configured and get service migrated to it, but
> > > nobody seems to have the time to do it.
> > 
> >  I'm an experienced unix and database admin.  I could volunteer to move the
> > service over, if you like.  That is, if you trust a maillist lurker like me.
> > I trust myself, if that's any help.  ;)
> 
> actually we could do with people to help with:
> 
> 1. server maintenance
> 2. website maintenance and improvement. we really need a "web team".
> 
> right now we are setting up what we call "e5". e5 (e5.enlightenment.org) is 
> our
> new server. it's sitting in osuosl. beber just re-installed it with gentoo and
> set up some stuff. the goal is to use kvm+qemu for vm's. we have a dedicated 
> ip
> addr for the vms vs the host (e5v.enlightenment.org for the vm's to share).
> 
> we can argue what vm to use all day - but the decision for kvm+qemu is based 
> on
> the fact that osuosl ALSO offer a vm host farm that they offered us to use if
> we want, so we want our vm's to already be compatible with it if we choose to
> make use of it. sure - it may not be the "most efficient" but it'll be good
> enough... the hardware is good. the new server is:
> 
> 2x 2.2ghz E5's (so 8 real cores, 8 threads across 2 full cpu's)
> 48gb ram
> 2x60gb ssd's raid1'd (full redundancy, 2x read rates)
> 4x1tb sata drivers (should be raid10'd into 1x2gb lvm, used to be, not
> currently - beber needs to re-format/set it up - so we should get full
> redundancy and 2x read rates)
> 1xGbit eth
> 
> this is the host on which we will run vm's. the host will do basically nothing
> but provide data storage, memory and compute  power. once its set up/working
> we'll not touch it and just keep it security updated where needed. no actual
> services will run on it.. they will ALL run on vm's
> 
> now qemu has a "host fs mount" (-virtfs i think) that allows u to expose the 
> FS
> from the host o the vm client. this should provide for nice ability to share
> files directly between vm's and a way to easily "Expand data for a vm"... so a
> vm ends up a vm rootfs image + launch config (ip etc.) + maybe some host fs 
> dir
> archive that it may also share with others.
> 
> why vm's? after years we've ended up screwing with our server and it ending up
> a bit of a mess. never again. we can make vm's and throw them away when done.
> we can install any distro we like. get tired of it? make a new vm with a
> different distro and bring it online, then just re-jig routing and presto. we
> can also now perform regular suspend/resumes and snapshots for backups. we can
> take those backups and copy them to LOCAL desktop machines at home and even 
> run
> them. we can create and set up these vm's "at home" and upload when ready. 
> this
> will lay the basics for adding vm's for bsd, windows, osx and other os's we 
> can
> "get to run in kvm/qemu". we can even run ARM vm's (of course totally emulated
> and slow - but hey... we can have them). this allows for us to make bigger
> build and test farms and when/if needed we can punt off vm's into osuosl's vm
> cloud.
> 
> so what do we need?
> 
> well first we need a router vm. all network has to be routed here as we need 
> to
> share port 80 and thus have to reverse-squid (haproxy) it to N possible vm's
> hidden behind a "inside host machine nat". this is the onyl way we can share
> port 80 sanely. otherwise we also need to set up ip/port forwarding for other
> ports and services to specific vm's. this router vm needs to go up.
> 
> then we need to make a vm with the current www site - just www. not trac etc.
> 
> we then need a vm with CURRENT trac+svn set up and working so we can bring it
> online and keep working.
> 
> we'd be smart to make a SEP

Re: [E-devel] This trac is a shit [Fwd: #1900: SIGSEGV OpenBSD]

2013-01-05 Thread Alex-P. Natsios
>> > > Yes, e2 is almost completely overloaded. We have a new beefy server,
>> > > e5, waiting to be configured and get service migrated to it, but
>> > > nobody seems to have the time to do it.

its no shame to ask for help when needed, especially when understaffed.
even if you have skills to take care of things its never enough and
when you have both work and a life its hard to share your time upon
everything to be equally if not adequately productive.

I'm an experienced sysadmin in Both Gentoo & Debian environments
(KVM/Qemu & xen) and would certainly be glad to help if need arise.

 >Virtual machines, well as far as performance goes, if the vm is doing the
>job fast enough, I don't really care what technology is used.

vm's are underrated/underestimated with proper care and tuning they
can perform really nicely.

>I haven't used
>kvm before, but shouldn't be too hard to work it out.
KVM has its quirks but is relatively easy to pickup.

>I'm not too sure of the benefits of a reverse proxy in this instance.
>It's easy enough to let iptables do dnat or load balancing, plus it's more
>convenient from an administration/maintenance perspective.

I would agree here that it is way easier and imho saner to go the way
dave suggests rather than have a VM do that work.

>By the sounds of it, top priority is migrating all services on e2 to a vm on
>the e5 system.  Which can't happen, until the vm host and router vm is
>active.  So, if monsieur beber needs help with any of these, my email address
>can be found above.
idem ditto.

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Re: [E-devel] This trac is a shit [Fwd: #1900: SIGSEGV OpenBSD]

2013-01-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 5 Jan 2013 23:18:04 +1100 Dave  said:

>  The plan seems sensible enough.  I'll be happy to help out whatever way I
> can.
> 
>  Virtual machines, well as far as performance goes, if the vm is doing the
> job fast enough, I don't really care what technology is used.  I haven't used
> kvm before, but shouldn't be too hard to work it out.
> 
>  I'm not too sure of the benefits of a reverse proxy in this instance.
> It's easy enough to let iptables do dnat or load balancing, plus it's more
> convenient from an administration/maintenance perspective.

we have www.eorg, download.e.org, trac.e.org, etc. etc. ... and they all point
to the SAME ip. we don't have 20 ip's to go around - only 2. so we can't use
iptables for this. all these www domains share the same ip, thus we have to
route at the http "get" level... thus... reverse proxy.

>  By the sounds of it, top priority is migrating all services on e2 to a vm on
> the e5 system.  Which can't happen, until the vm host and router vm is
> active.  So, if monsieur beber needs help with any of these, my email address
> can be found above.

:) though.. vm's can be set up regardless. install an os (ubuntu, debian
probably best given old e2 was a debian SID setup). and then get a "dump" of
whats on e2 and have it work without routing... then its "Ready to go". it just
needs to be "updated at the last minute to latest content" before going live. 

>  Cheers,
>  dave.k
>  
> 
>  In the year 2013, of the month of January, on the 4th day, Carsten Haitzler
> wrote:
> > On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 14:46:34 +1100 Dave  said:
> > 
> > >  In the year 2012, of the month of December, on the 1st day, Cedric BAIL
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 12:20 PM, rustyBSD  wrote:
> > > > > I took 10 minutes to create a ticket, after 4 unsuccessful
> > > > > attemps, because
> > > > >
> > > > >  SPANK SPANK SERVER IS DOWN
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, e2 is almost completely overloaded. We have a new beefy server,
> > > > e5, waiting to be configured and get service migrated to it, but
> > > > nobody seems to have the time to do it.
> > > 
> > >  I'm an experienced unix and database admin.  I could volunteer to move
> > > the service over, if you like.  That is, if you trust a maillist lurker
> > > like me. I trust myself, if that's any help.  ;)
> > 
> > actually we could do with people to help with:
> > 
> > 1. server maintenance
> > 2. website maintenance and improvement. we really need a "web team".
> > 
> > right now we are setting up what we call "e5". e5 (e5.enlightenment.org) is
> > our new server. it's sitting in osuosl. beber just re-installed it with
> > gentoo and set up some stuff. the goal is to use kvm+qemu for vm's. we have
> > a dedicated ip addr for the vms vs the host (e5v.enlightenment.org for the
> > vm's to share).
> > 
> > we can argue what vm to use all day - but the decision for kvm+qemu is
> > based on the fact that osuosl ALSO offer a vm host farm that they offered
> > us to use if we want, so we want our vm's to already be compatible with it
> > if we choose to make use of it. sure - it may not be the "most efficient"
> > but it'll be good enough... the hardware is good. the new server is:
> > 
> > 2x 2.2ghz E5's (so 8 real cores, 8 threads across 2 full cpu's)
> > 48gb ram
> > 2x60gb ssd's raid1'd (full redundancy, 2x read rates)
> > 4x1tb sata drivers (should be raid10'd into 1x2gb lvm, used to be, not
> > currently - beber needs to re-format/set it up - so we should get full
> > redundancy and 2x read rates)
> > 1xGbit eth
> > 
> > this is the host on which we will run vm's. the host will do basically
> > nothing but provide data storage, memory and compute  power. once its set
> > up/working we'll not touch it and just keep it security updated where
> > needed. no actual services will run on it.. they will ALL run on vm's
> > 
> > now qemu has a "host fs mount" (-virtfs i think) that allows u to expose
> > the FS from the host o the vm client. this should provide for nice ability
> > to share files directly between vm's and a way to easily "Expand data for a
> > vm"... so a vm ends up a vm rootfs image + launch config (ip etc.) + maybe
> > some host fs dir archive that it may also share with others.
> > 
> > why vm's? after years we've ended up screwing with our server and it ending
> > up a bit of a mess. never again. we can make vm's and throw them away when
> > done. we can install any distro we like. get tired of it? make a new vm
> > with a different distro and bring it online, then just re-jig routing and
> > presto. we can also now perform regular suspend/resumes and snapshots for
> > backups. we can take those backups and copy them to LOCAL desktop machines
> > at home and even run them. we can create and set up these vm's "at home"
> > and upload when ready. this will lay the basics for adding vm's for bsd,
> > windows, osx and other os's we can "get to run in kvm/qemu". we can even
> > run ARM vm's (of course totally emulated and slow - but hey.

Re: [E-devel] This trac is a shit [Fwd: #1900: SIGSEGV OpenBSD]

2013-01-06 Thread Dave
 In the year 2013, of the month of January, on the 6th day, Carsten Haitzler 
wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Jan 2013 23:18:04 +1100 Dave  said:
> > 
> >  I'm not too sure of the benefits of a reverse proxy in this instance.
> > It's easy enough to let iptables do dnat or load balancing, plus it's more
> > convenient from an administration/maintenance perspective.
> 
> we have www.eorg, download.e.org, trac.e.org, etc. etc. ... and they all point
> to the SAME ip. we don't have 20 ip's to go around - only 2. so we can't use
> iptables for this. all these www domains share the same ip, thus we have to
> route at the http "get" level... thus... reverse proxy.

 Since the websites point to the same IP, and I assume they all reside on the
same server, it's possible to use a virutal hosting web service config.  This
relies on the http "Host" header (required with any http command, especially
if it's http1.1) to differentiate the different websites.  A reverse proxy
would do exactly the same thing.  May as well cut the chain shorter and just
forward the connection directly to the web server itself.

 If you do need to temporarily reverse proxy any website, as part of
migration, then Apache can do this individually on a per virtual host basis.

> >  By the sounds of it, top priority is migrating all services on e2 to a vm 
> > on
> > the e5 system.  Which can't happen, until the vm host and router vm is
> > active.  So, if monsieur beber needs help with any of these, my email 
> > address
> > can be found above.
> 
> :) though.. vm's can be set up regardless. install an os (ubuntu, debian
> probably best given old e2 was a debian SID setup). and then get a "dump" of
> whats on e2 and have it work without routing... then its "Ready to go". it 
> just
> needs to be "updated at the last minute to latest content" before going live. 

 Rsync is your friend here.  Create a shell script with the appropriate rsync
commands, run it once to do the bulk transfer, then run it again just before
doing the switch.  I've done this many times when moving a Linux server from
physical to virtual, copying the whole system, not just service files.  Most
of these switchovers are done in under a minute.

 Cheers,
 dave.k


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Re: [E-devel] This trac is a shit [Fwd: #1900: SIGSEGV OpenBSD]

2013-01-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 16:15:04 +1100 Dave  said:

>  In the year 2013, of the month of January, on the 6th day, Carsten Haitzler
> wrote:
> > On Sat, 5 Jan 2013 23:18:04 +1100 Dave  said:
> > > 
> > >  I'm not too sure of the benefits of a reverse proxy in this instance.
> > > It's easy enough to let iptables do dnat or load balancing, plus it's more
> > > convenient from an administration/maintenance perspective.
> > 
> > we have www.eorg, download.e.org, trac.e.org, etc. etc. ... and they all
> > point to the SAME ip. we don't have 20 ip's to go around - only 2. so we
> > can't use iptables for this. all these www domains share the same ip, thus
> > we have to route at the http "get" level... thus... reverse proxy.
> 
>  Since the websites point to the same IP, and I assume they all reside on the
> same server, it's possible to use a virutal hosting web service config.  This
> relies on the http "Host" header (required with any http command, especially
> if it's http1.1) to differentiate the different websites.  A reverse proxy
> would do exactly the same thing.  May as well cut the chain shorter and just
> forward the connection directly to the web server itself.

that's what we currently do... BUT we are going to split them to run on
different vm's - thus there needs to be a reverse proxy of some sort (reverse
squid, haproxy... doesn't much matter :)).

>  If you do need to temporarily reverse proxy any website, as part of
> migration, then Apache can do this individually on a per virtual host basis.
> 
> > >  By the sounds of it, top priority is migrating all services on e2 to a
> > > vm on the e5 system.  Which can't happen, until the vm host and router vm
> > > is active.  So, if monsieur beber needs help with any of these, my email
> > > address can be found above.
> > 
> > :) though.. vm's can be set up regardless. install an os (ubuntu, debian
> > probably best given old e2 was a debian SID setup). and then get a "dump" of
> > whats on e2 and have it work without routing... then its "Ready to go". it
> > just needs to be "updated at the last minute to latest content" before
> > going live. 
> 
>  Rsync is your friend here.  Create a shell script with the appropriate rsync
> commands, run it once to do the bulk transfer, then run it again just before
> doing the switch.  I've done this many times when moving a Linux server from
> physical to virtual, copying the whole system, not just service files.  Most
> of these switchovers are done in under a minute.

i know. :) i use rsync every day... been using it since like.. 1998 or so for my
own homedir. :) it depends how much data needs to be copied and how lazy you
are... and how good your link is. my link at home is 100mbit... so i get rather
lazy (i can sustain 30mbit or so between home and e.org and that link goes
across the pacific). :) it all depends on who does it. sure. rsync will do the
job. :) just pointing out that the setup can be done "given current state/data"
so all the right packages, config etc. is there and working and then just a
"last minute update before switching" can be done... it can even be done direct
from e2 to e5 that live in the same datacenter... :) 100mbit then :)

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