Re: [e-users] Nice screenshot, but what program is it?
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 07:53:21 +0200 Karsten Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Daniel Ekström schrieb: > > http://www.get-e.org/Screenshots/User_Submitted/_images/e17_pykmi.png > > So, here is another question about this screenshot: > > Do anybody know, what font is used in the terminals? > That's aquafont --> http://aquablue.milkcafe.to/ cheers! tom pgpIJy2BQI6x1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [e-users] Re: create icon gone
> but the create icon button is still not there. Create icon hasn't moved, it should still be there (in the menu list when clicking on the top corner). Alternatively, you can bring up the create icon window using the command line: e_util_eapp_edit app_name.eap So for Firefox you'd do this: e_util_eapp_edit firefox.eap This will create an .eap file in the current working directory. You'll need to move this file (if you created it somewhere else) to ~/.e/e/applications/all. More information can be found here: http://www.get-e.org/User_Guide/English/_pages/3.3.html Lucas --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] gnomish e17
First of all, I want to say that I love enlightenment and am very happy with it's improvements and such. However, there's still a lot of programs from gnome and such that I still find I really want to use, like nautilus (I can't wait till evidence becomes more usable), file roller and other miscellania. The problem is that when they are loaded in e17, they don't load all the gnome theme stuff with them. This is quite anoying in nautilus because almost all my icons look the same, and it's difficult to tell what's what. I found out that running gnome-theme-manager will do this, but it's a pain to have to run that whenever I restart e17. Also There's a couple things it doesn't do (at least not for my theme), in nautilus, the Computer icon and several things in the Go menu show up as missing icons. Is there a way to run like half a gnome-session or something to do this? Also it doesn't load my gtk theme by default either. I'm still new to linux so I might be doing something wrong :| Thanks, Alan Trick --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] e17 and composite extension
On 9/13/05, Mike Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:>>and font data loaded from the themes, would add increased lag for handling>exposes for dropshadows, as well as have destroyed a design specifically>targetted to be able to degrade nicely for e18 when i would like to fo >xcomposite support.>>I've been using e17 with Composite and xcompmgr/transset-df-4/xbindkeysand it seems to work pretty well (see the nice instructions for doingthis at the Gentoo Wiki). Ironically it's a lot of GTK apps that have the most problems with xcompmgr (Firefox+Flash plug-in will crash,Thunderbird will crash unless you set XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS,occassional corruption when using scrollbar in thunderbird, rdesktop).E17 will have corruption on the background when starting up and/or changing themes, but moving a window around the desktop to force arepaint will fix it. Transparent windows work fine, the drop shadowscreated by xcompmgr don't interfere or look out of place with e17'sdropshadows... really, it's pretty amazing! Granted, xcompmgr and transparent windows are only usable withproprietary NVIDIA drivers (which I am using), and other people reportgreat success with EXA-enabled drivers and X.Org 6.9/7.0.::snip:: Ok quick question that I can't find the answer to. I have xcompmgr and transset-df with xbindkeys setup like the gentoo wiki says and like you have it but I was wondering if you could set it up to autoset transparency by mouse click instead of mouse wheel like kde uses? Or any link to a webpage that has more help on the issue would be great. Thank you!
Re: [e-users] gnomish e17
On 19:53, Wed 14 Sep 05, Alan Trick wrote: > Also it doesn't load my gtk theme by default either. I'm still new to > linux so I might be doing something wrong :| If you run e17 using startx, you can add the foll. line just before your e17 exec line: exec gnome-settings-daemon & This will ensure that gnome-settings-daemon runs in the background. All Gnome compliant applications talk to this daemon for theme and icon settings. When you are using Gnome natively, gnome-session runs this for you. You can also run this command using a terminal or exige after starting e17 and it will work just fine. Hope this helps, Cheers, Abhas. -- Abhas Abhinav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> i-take-charge at DeepRoot Linux http://www.deeproot.in / +91 (80) 5112 4781 Getting gnu/Linux to work for you. Faster. Better. Today. Every way. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] gnomish e17
> The problem is that when they are loaded in e17, they don't load all the > gnome theme stuff with them. Create a gnome-settings-daemon.eap file using: e_util_eapp_edit gnome-settings-daemon.eap (The exec should be "gnome-settings-daemon") When that file is created, make sure you put it here "~/.e/e/applications/all". Next create a text file with the following: gnome-settings-daemon.eap Name the text file ".order", and save it in "~/.e/e/applications/startup". That will make the gnome-settings-daemon run when you startup e. Also you will probably want to change the show_desktop setting for nautilus, otherwise your gnome desktop wallpaper will show up when you open nautilus. To change that run the "gconf-editor", and uncheck the "show_desktop" option in "apps/nautilus/preferences". Lucas --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] gnomish e17
Alan Trick wrote: Is there a way to run like half a gnome-session or something to do this? Also it doesn't load my gtk theme by default either. I'm still new to linux so I might be doing something wrong :| I think that launching "gnome-settings-daemon &" at E17 startup should do the trick (e.g. adding the line in your .xsession, or maybe you can directly ask E17 to launch it) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] gnomish e17
Just add the various demons you want from gnome that run in the background before you call enlightenment in your script. e.g. to ensure gnome themes are remembered, you can use this in your enlightenment session/desktop/xinitrc script to fire things up. /usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon & /usr/local/bin/enlightenment On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:53:33 +0900, Alan Trick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: First of all, I want to say that I love enlightenment and am very happy with it's improvements and such. However, there's still a lot of programs from gnome and such that I still find I really want to use, like nautilus (I can't wait till evidence becomes more usable), file roller and other miscellania. The problem is that when they are loaded in e17, they don't load all the gnome theme stuff with them. This is quite anoying in nautilus because almost all my icons look the same, and it's difficult to tell what's what. I found out that running gnome-theme-manager will do this, but it's a pain to have to run that whenever I restart e17. Also There's a couple things it doesn't do (at least not for my theme), in nautilus, the Computer icon and several things in the Go menu show up as missing icons. Is there a way to run like half a gnome-session or something to do this? Also it doesn't load my gtk theme by default either. I'm still new to linux so I might be doing something wrong :| Thanks, Alan Trick --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Some feedback
Hi
I don't know whether this is the right place to give feedback for E17, I hope
so :-).
E17:
* It would be great if one could set ordinary pictures (bmp,jpg,png) as
wallpapers without compiling them to edje. For means of simplicity.
* If you press Alt+Tab and your system goes under heavy load at the moment
the mouse cursor is "trapped" in the "Select a window"-dialog. It always jumps
back to it if you move it.
* I don't understand why "folding" is not possible for maximized windows.
* Support for several color themes in one theme file would be cool.
* I'm pretty sure that this is because of technical circumstances, but the
loading/unloading vs. activating/deactivating of modules is a bit strange
IMHO. Wouldn't it be cool if every module is registered at installation time,
and shown in the popup menues and activating it there will load it (and make
it consume memory)?
Ideas for E17:
* No window-focus change when you are tipping in a window (type in password
in a shell && instant messenger pops up problem => you type the password in
the wrong window).
* Gray out non focused windows, or make their borders translucent or
"smaller"/more mimimalistic.
* only allow resize if you active a window first (to avoid resizing of wrong
windows)
* configuration of "Masterkey" for hiding/showing all enlightenment widgets
(engage, docker, clock etc.)
* in a more mature state E17 could be registered at openusability.org to have
usability experts looking at it. (though I'm sure there are already some
doing this).
* "reservation" of screen edges for applications. for example: applications
like engage "register" actions ("bringing engage in the foreground") at
enlightenment. the user has a small configurations dialog which shows the
screen and all registered actions. he/she can than choose which action to take
on which edge/parts of edje of the screen. (OSX has something like this)
* all configurationdetails (e17 and plugins) in one dialog (with tabs for
example) instead of the popup submenus would be cool.
* it would especially be great if one could customize the left/right-click
popup-menus. so when I have a docker running I can remove the "favourite
applications" and the "lost windows" items from the popup menu.
Emotion:
* Would be cool if emotion would use gstreamer instead of xine-lib
Engage:
* If you activate "systemtray" and don't have any items in there, there's a
small graphical bug (ugly right edje).
* If there is more than one instance of the program at the left or right edje
of engage you can't choose all of "small flying icons": If one of the small
icons is even further left than the left "big icon" in engage you can't choose
it (engage "shrinks back").
* sometimes engage doensn't "expand". You have to move your cursor somewhere
else then and move it back to engagne.
* activation of startupnotification for an eap doesn't change anything
* it would be cool if engage would come into foreground if you place mouse
cursor on it, so other windows can lay over it and only a few pixels of engage
at the bottom of the screen could be used to call it in the foreground.
Entice:
* a bit confusing, cause you don't know where the UI elements are if they are
hidden
Entangle:
* scrollwheel support would be cool :-)
This are my ideas for making the greatest windowmanager/desktopshell I know
even greater (IMHO :-) ).
greetings and many thanks for the great work!
fabian zeindl
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Re: [e-users] e17 and composite extension
Jason Edson wrote: Ok quick question that I can't find the answer to. I have xcompmgr and transset-df with xbindkeys setup like the gentoo wiki says and like you have it but I was wondering if you could set it up to autoset transparency by mouse click instead of mouse wheel like kde uses? Or any link to a webpage that has more help on the issue would be great. Thank you! The manual page for xbindkeys includes some examples, but doesn't list all the keys (it says the list is under /usr/include/X11/keysym.h). I'm sure you could use control + button to start a program: (from xbindkeys man page) # Control + mouse button 1 starts an xterm "xterm" /(replace this cmd with something like "transset-df --min 0.1 -p --dec 0.1")/ Control + b:1 but I dont know if you could do it with a key combination that the application or window manager already intercepts. -- Mike Russo ReadQ Systems, Inc. (212) 425 3680 x105 Random quote of the last-time-I-ran-bash: "I dislike companies that have a we-are-the-high-priests-of-hardware-so-you'll- like-what-we-give-you attitude. I like commodity markets in which iron-and- silicon hawkers know that they exist to provide fast toys for software types like me to play with..." -- Eric S. Raymond --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Some feedback
> * in a more mature state E17 could be registered at openusability.org to have > usability experts looking at it. (though I'm sure there are already some > doing this). Yea, I'm sure raster would LOVE there input. (snicker) Just look how much they improved gnome! --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Some feedback
Fabian Zeindl wrote: Hi I don't know whether this is the right place to give feedback for E17, I hope so :-). E17: [snip] Engage: * If you activate "systemtray" and don't have any items in there, there's a small graphical bug (ugly right edje). The window cannot be removed entirely I thin, so it remains in its smallest form. This may be wrong, will look into it - fixed up themeing will help this * If there is more than one instance of the program at the left or right edje of engage you can't choose all of "small flying icons": If one of the small icons is even further left than the left "big icon" in engage you can't choose it (engage "shrinks back"). On TODO already * sometimes engage doensn't "expand". You have to move your cursor somewhere else then and move it back to engagne. on TODO already * activation of startupnotification for an eap doesn't change anything on TODO already * it would be cool if engage would come into foreground if you place mouse cursor on it, so other windows can lay over it and only a few pixels of engage at the bottom of the screen could be used to call it in the foreground. e17 does not support "on top" modules - e18 should. Entice: * a bit confusing, cause you don't know where the UI elements are if they are hidden Entangle: * scrollwheel support would be cool :-) already supported (recently) HandyAndE --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] randr module
how does the randr module work? i've loaded and activated it, but i don't know how i can change the screen resolution. seems there's only an option to restore the screen resolution at start up. greetz, wimbo --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] randr module
Wim Borremans wrote: how does the randr module work? i've loaded and activated it, but i don't know how i can change the screen resolution. seems there's only an option to restore the screen resolution at start up. E17 Menu -> Configuration -> Resolution Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'<*>'|sed 's. ..'|tr "<*> !#:2" [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] randr module
Op wo, 14-09-2005 te 16:56 +0200, schreef Christoph Gysin: > Wim Borremans wrote: > > how does the randr module work? i've loaded and activated it, but i > > don't know how i can change the screen resolution. seems there's only an > > option to restore the screen resolution at start up. > > E17 Menu -> Configuration -> Resolution ok. this was quite a stupid question :-S --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] gnomish e17
while we are at the subject. how the hell do you trick ooo2 into using it's gnome integration. with gnome2.10 it was easy, since you had a little program called gnome-smproxy that seemed to start session support without actually starting the session. but now there is no such program, so how does one do it? On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 17:44 +0530, Abhas Abhinav wrote: > On 19:53, Wed 14 Sep 05, Alan Trick wrote: > > Also it doesn't load my gtk theme by default either. I'm still new to > > linux so I might be doing something wrong :| > > If you run e17 using startx, you can add the foll. line just before your > e17 exec line: > > exec gnome-settings-daemon & > > This will ensure that gnome-settings-daemon runs in the background. All > Gnome compliant applications talk to this daemon for theme and icon > settings. When you are using Gnome natively, gnome-session runs this for > you. > > You can also run this command using a terminal or exige after starting e17 > and it will work just fine. > > Hope this helps, > > Cheers, > Abhas. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] randr module
Wim Borremans wrote: Op wo, 14-09-2005 te 16:56 +0200, schreef Christoph Gysin: Wim Borremans wrote: how does the randr module work? i've loaded and activated it, but i don't know how i can change the screen resolution. seems there's only an option to restore the screen resolution at start up. E17 Menu -> Configuration -> Resolution ok. this was quite a stupid question :-S Actually, it's not. AFAIK this is the first module that changes the E17 menu instead of adding a new GUI object on the desktop. But I like it! I just found it by accident... Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'<*>'|sed 's. ..'|tr "<*> !#:2" [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Feature request, no go zones
Ben, il 14/09/2005 02:56, scrisse: > I'm the same way.. i have the maximize policy set so that windows won't > maximize over my modules, but I seldom actually maximize a window. It'd be > much handier to reserve that space for *only* the module, so no window will > enter it, under any circumstances. I would prefer to be able to put modules on a higher stacking, instead of having them drawn in the lowest evas. would something like drawing it on an upper evas, just like root menus, be possible? ok, surely I would be missing many eye candies, but it would be useful on a low resolution monitor, better if I could configure every single module this way or the other (I can't figure out the usefulness of an "on top" dropshadow :) -- Massimo Maiurana mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://massimo.solira.org GPG keyID #7044D601 Articolo 11 - L'Italia ripudia la guerra come strumento di offesa alla libertà degli altri popoli e come mezzo di risoluzione delle controversie internazionali signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[e-users] Problems compiling imlib2
When i try to make the library, get this error: checking dlfcn.h usability... yes checking dlfcn.h presence... yes checking for dlfcn.h... yes checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check See `config.log' for more details. What i have to see at config.log? I used get_e.sh script. Thanks --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] E17 4 Win ?
Hello I do sometimes need to work on a shitty MS platform. In that case I use BlackBox on Windows, instead of default explorer.exe window manager (http://www.bb4win.org). When in linux, I always prefer E17, it is small, quick an beautiful. What do you think about something like porting E17 to Windows platform? Thanks Bu
Re: [e-users] Problems compiling imlib2
Guillermo Movia wrote: When i try to make the library, get this error: checking dlfcn.h usability... yes checking dlfcn.h presence... yes checking for dlfcn.h... yes checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check See `config.log' for more details. What i have to see at config.log? I used get_e.sh script. Thanks --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users Hi! /lib/cpp ? Really strange... What OS you are using? ( uname -a && cat /etc/release ) Do you trying to set/export GCC before configure? Have Fun, Dan --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Problems compiling imlib2
DM wrote: Guillermo Movia wrote: When i try to make the library, get this error: checking dlfcn.h usability... yes checking dlfcn.h presence... yes checking for dlfcn.h... yes checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check See `config.log' for more details. What i have to see at config.log? I used get_e.sh script. Thanks --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users Hi! /lib/cpp ? Really strange... What OS you are using? ( uname -a && cat /etc/release ) Do you trying to set/export GCC before configure? Have Fun, Dan --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users Hi again! It seems that better not to drink and read emails ;) > See `config.log' for more details. > What i have to see at config.log? check at config.log last ~100 lines, the reason for failure will probably be there. Anyway, if configure script gives you such error, something bad. Either with autofoo stuff or with your system (permissions, libs, includes, etc...) Thanks, Dan --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E17 4 Win ?
hi, search this mailing-list archive, somebody is already working on e17 under cygwin and said something about it here a few weeks ago, but i don't remember how far he got as i don't have to use windoze... greets, chris Bu Bacoo wrote: > Hello > > I do sometimes need to work on a shitty MS platform. In that case I > use BlackBox on Windows, instead of default explorer.exe window > manager (http://www.bb4win.org). When in linux, I always prefer E17, > it is small, quick an beautiful. > What do you think about something like porting E17 to Windows platform? > > Thanks > Bu --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E17 4 Win ?
Hi, I just started to play with eesh on e16. Really a awsome tool to play with... Is there a identical tool for e17? Cheers Erik -- J. Erik Heinz Keyboard-samuraing in process --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] eesh
J. Erik Heinz wrote: I just started to play with eesh on e16. Really a awsome tool to play with... Is there a identical tool for e17? Not quite identical, but did you try enlightenment_remote? Christoph Gysin -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'<*>'|sed 's. ..'|tr "<*> !#:2" [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E17 4 Win ?
Christian Pedaschus wrote: hi, search this mailing-list archive, somebody is already working on e17 under cygwin and said something about it here a few weeks ago, but i don't remember how far he got as i don't have to use windoze... greets, chris We all decided it wasn't going to work :( e17 modules would not work because they are designed to be loaded at runtime, but Windows has lots of limitations with regards to this, and edje files wouldn't display properly because the cygwin C library didn't support the C99 "%a" formatter (I didn't dig in the code to find how this is used however). But I get my eyecandy fix when I have to work on windows by changing skins with WindowBlinds (www.windowblinds.net). ;) -- Mike Russo ReadQ Systems, Inc. (212) 425 3680 x105 Random quote of the last-time-I-ran-bash: I wasn't recommending that we make the links for them, only provide them with the tools to do so if they want to take the gamble (or the gambol). -- Larry Wall in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Problems compiling ewl
Now, i had this problem: MF .deps/ewl_border.Tpo -c ewl_border.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/ewl_border.o ewl_border.c: In function 'ewl_border_init': ewl_border.c:38: error: 'FALSE' undeclared (first use in this function) ewl_border.c:38: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ewl_border.c:38: error: for each function it appears in.) ewl_border.c:48: error: 'TRUE' undeclared (first use in this function) Some suggestion? Guillermo --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] gnomish e17
easy way... you have a gnome-theme-manager.eap ? open entangle . click the startup button at the top scroll till you find gnome-theme-manager drag it to the start up folder your done just make sure that the show-desktop is unchecked in gconfig mananger this way it will launch Nautilus with out the desktop problem is that if yo go in to gnome you wont see your desktop items On 9/14/05, Виктор Кожухаров <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: while we are at the subject.how the hell do you trick ooo2 into using it's gnome integration. withgnome2.10 it was easy, since you had a little program calledgnome-smproxy that seemed to start session support without actually starting the session. but now there is no such program, so how does onedo it?On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 17:44 +0530, Abhas Abhinav wrote:> On 19:53, Wed 14 Sep 05, Alan Trick wrote:> > Also it doesn't load my gtk theme by default either. I'm still new to > > linux so I might be doing something wrong :|>> If you run e17 using startx, you can add the foll. line just before your> e17 exec line:>> exec gnome-settings-daemon & >> This will ensure that gnome-settings-daemon runs in the background. All> Gnome compliant applications talk to this daemon for theme and icon> settings. When you are using Gnome natively, gnome-session runs this for > you.>> You can also run this command using a terminal or exige after starting e17> and it will work just fine.>> Hope this helps,>> Cheers,> Abhas. ---SF.Net email is sponsored by:Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Downloadit for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php___enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Registered Linux User: #376813www.fedorajim.homelinux.com
[e-users] Re: create icon gone
Hi, I also had a similar issue. I solved the problem by creating a soft link to e_util_eapp_edit under /usr/bin. Even if the application is under my $PATH ($PATH=/home/user/e17/bin:$PATH), somehow it is not detected. -vijay -Original Message- From: Lucas Goss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: enlightenment Sent: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 07:48:41 -0400 Subject: Re: [e-users] Re: create icon gone > but the create icon button is still not there. Create icon hasn't moved, it should still be there (in the menu list when clicking on the top corner). Alternatively, you can bring up the create icon window using the command line: e_util_eapp_edit app_name.eap So for Firefox you'd do this: e_util_eapp_edit firefox.eap This will create an .eap file in the current working directory. You'll need to move this file (if you created it somewhere else) to ~/.e/e/applications/all. More information can be found here: http://www.get-e.org/User_Guide/English/_pages/3.3.html Lucas --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] gnomish e17
Abhas Abhinav wrote: >On 19:53, Wed 14 Sep 05, Alan Trick wrote: > > >>Also it doesn't load my gtk theme by default either. I'm still new to >>linux so I might be doing something wrong :| >> >> > >If you run e17 using startx, you can add the foll. line just before your >e17 exec line: > >exec gnome-settings-daemon & > > > unfortunately there is no gnome-settings-daemon on my system. I'm runnging gnome 2.10, suse9.3. -Dienekes --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Re: create icon gone
Create icon hasn't moved, it should still be there (in the menu listwhen clicking on the top corner). Alternatively, you can bring up the create icon window using the command line:e_util_eapp_edit app_name.eapSo for Firefox you'd do this:e_util_eapp_edit firefox.eapThis will create an .eap file in the current working directory. You'll need to move this file (if you created it somewhere else) to~/.e/e/applications/all. More information can be found here: thanks, but i guess i found out what happened. i was using morlenxus script, which installs to /opt/e17 by default. i did have it in my path so it should have been ok, but for some reason it was not. i installed to /usr now and everything works fine. the icon thing is back and no more command not found trouble either. thanks again
Re: [e-users] E17 4 Win ?
It's been talked about, however doing so would be a major project, and it probably won't happen in the near future. Paul On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 22:52 +0200, Bu Bacoo wrote: > Hello > > I do sometimes need to work on a shitty MS platform. In that case I > use BlackBox on Windows, instead of default explorer.exe window > manager (http://www.bb4win.org). When in linux, I always prefer E17, > it is small, quick an beautiful. > What do you think about something like porting E17 to Windows > platform? > > Thanks > Bu --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Has anyone gotten weather working?
Has anyone got any ideas? I haven't seen any replies in the last couple days, but I still have a problem. Thanks, Paul On Mon, 2005-09-12 at 17:42 -0500, Paul S. wrote: > I was wondering if anyone has gotten the weather module to work. I've > modified my XML file and it just gives me a ? and doesn't download. If > you have any ideas email me at this email or I'll read the mailing > lists. > Thanks, > Paul > > > > --- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E17 4 Win ?
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 22:52:36 +0200 Bu Bacoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Hello > > I do sometimes need to work on a shitty MS platform. In that case I use > BlackBox on Windows, instead of default explorer.exe window manager ( > http://www.bb4win.org). When in linux, I always prefer E17, it is small, > quick an beautiful. > What do you think about something like porting E17 to Windows platform? that depends what you mean by "for windows" as i gather bb4win is like litestep, windows blinds etc. it actually is a WINDOWS app and changes the look of WINDOWS - it isnt an x app. what has been tried before is to get E17 to run within an xserver under cygwin (thus it still manages ONLY x apps) but this wont' work because e is too complex for cygwin to handle (the simple answer). what you, i think, are after, is a native windows wm version of e17. ie a explorer shell replacement built from e. the answer: no. won't happen. simply no chance. not a single dev will spend the time on this. we dont USE windows. we dont develop for it. we frankly, don't care. it is NOT worth the effort. now if some other develoepr wants to port e libs to windows (NATIVE - not under cygwin) and then go build a explorer shell replacement using them - sure, go for it. we will accept patches as logn as they are clean and dont make the code a jungle of #ifdef's and make pain for us on the unix side, but we won't be doing this ourselves at any point in the future i can dream of. -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Some feedback
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:50:26 +0200 "Fabian Zeindl"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> Hi
>
> I don't know whether this is the right place to give feedback for E17, I hope
> so :-).
>
> E17:
> * It would be great if one could set ordinary pictures (bmp,jpg,png) as
> wallpapers without compiling them to edje. For means of simplicity.
and here is where everyone forgets the problems with this. so now u set a bg.
how do u knwo if you want to scale it to fit the screen? scale and retain
aspect? simply center it? tile it? tile with what starting co-ordinate?...
suddenyl we need to save all this information too per image. edje ALREADY does
this. and a LOT more. when u make the .edj u SAVE the infor as to HOW the image
is to be displayed WITH the image data (and more). the solution is to make
better TOOLS to PRODUCE the .edj's from your photo gallery
like example:
e_make_wallpaper -scaled porn.jpg porn.edj
e_make_wallpaper -tiled grass.png grass.edj
etc.
now you have encoded exactly how to display the image WITH the image. you caqn
now give the .edj to your friends and whoever and they dont have to figure out
if its meant to be tiles, scaled or whatever.
> * If you press Alt+Tab and your system goes under heavy load at the moment
> the mouse cursor is "trapped" in the "Select a window"-dialog. It always jumps
> back to it if you move it.
this sounds like a bug - can you give mroe details?
> * I don't understand why "folding" is not possible for maximized windows.
because theres more than 1 kind of maximize. i listed a whole lot in the TODO
file. thats why e has maximize policy selection too. e by default takes 1 kind
of maximise as the way to go - windows-ey style.
> * Support for several color themes in one theme file would be cool.
in theory themes support recolouring compltely via color classes, but there are
no examples of this yet nor is it fully supported or tested. its low priority
atm.
> * I'm pretty sure that this is because of technical circumstances, but the
> loading/unloading vs. activating/deactivating of modules is a bit strange
> IMHO. Wouldn't it be cool if every module is registered at installation time,
> and shown in the popup menues and activating it there will load it (and make
> it consume memory)?
loading a module basically registers it. it consumes memory for the code, but
nothing else. an unloaded module consumes NO resources EXCEPT disk space - ever.
imho eventuallly 3rd party moduels shoudl come with small installer programs
that load (and enable) the moduel by askign E to do it, add the moduel install
path etc. to e's module search path and so on. i dont have any examples to
point to that do all of this, but engage is not far off. :)
> Ideas for E17:
> * No window-focus change when you are tipping in a window (type in password
> in a shell && instant messenger pops up problem => you type the password in
> the wrong window).
we don't know if you are typing in a window. e doesnt get key press events. the
client program gets them. it has no idea whats going on.
> * Gray out non focused windows, or make their borders translucent or
> "smaller"/more mimimalistic.
that's entirely up to the theme :) it can do whatever it likes. the default
simply changes the titlebar as such.
> * only allow resize if you active a window first (to avoid resizing of wrong
> windows)
not much use in sloppy or pointer focus - but maybe click to focus, BUt then
again - the click then resize will activate the window and resize, so... not
much point there. :)
> * configuration of "Masterkey" for hiding/showing all enlightenment widgets
> (engage, docker, clock etc.)
that needs more thought i think. too simple a view of them.
> * in a more mature state E17 could be registered at openusability.org to have
> usability experts looking at it. (though I'm sure there are already some
> doing this).
openusability has managed to make gnome much less usable. i think we can do
well on our own. i prefer to get feedback from users like you than "usability
experts" some things useds say are very insightful and useful, others are
useless or impossible to do, but somewhere in the middle we will meet and make
something good :) right now priority is to get everything up and runing as it
was long ago and build from there. it won't all be perfect, BUT over time it
will improve. :)
> * "reservation" of screen edges for applications. for example: applications
> like engage "register" actions ("bringing engage in the foreground") at
> enlightenment. the user has a small configurations dialog which shows the
> screen and all registered actions. he/she can than choose which action to take
> on which edge/parts of edje of the screen. (OSX has something like this)
yes - we kind of have this but its farily lax. its a TODO item as such already.
> * all configurationdetails (e17 and plugins) in one dialog (with tabs for
> example) instead of the popup submenus would be cool.
already in the TODO (gui config
Re: [e-users] Multiple temperature modules
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 00:28:10 +0200 Johan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > How can i enable multiple temperature sensor modules/containers? I have > 2 sensors (system and cpu) and like to see them both. > > My solution would be to cp temerature module to temerature2 and load it > as second modules. But there must be a better way. Not? basically you can't without modifying the temp module a lot. :) ie it needs code support. :/ -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Feature request, no go zones
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 00:31:54 +0200 Johan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Could it be possible to add some type of no go zone to modules so that > you can't move/resize a window over it? yes. it's possible, but right now, low priority. :) > This way you can always see the modules you frequently use (pager, ibar) > and hide modules you use rarely (temp sensors, etc) > > I using the expand maximise policy now and it works well for maximizing > but when i then create a new window it mostly comes on top of the pager :( > > Maybe an idea? Or is it crap? > > Johan > > > --- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download > it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own > Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] weird when using enlightenment_remote ...
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:47:10 -0400 Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On Wednesday, 31 August 2005, at 15:29:14 (+0200), > Bertrand Jacquin wrote: > > > There's a librarie which do Async DNS resolv with a "AS-IS" license : > > C-ares : http://daniel.haxx.se/projects/c-ares/ > > Hope that could help > > Debian doesn't have c-ares, but it does have the older ares library: > > http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=ares&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all > > Raster, what do you think? oh god back to this. ok - for now i think keep what we have. it seems to work - either go the fork child to gethostbyname or complete what we have is the way to go. if we dont complete what we have soon i might just make a fork() version of it :) seb? what do u think?? -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] New desktop switch popup
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:18:52 -0400 "David P. Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > the pager module isn't in e_modules' package, it's in e's package. > > That would explain it :) > > > also, better rebuilding all of efl before attempting to build apps, > > since there could be problems due to compatibility. > > Sound advice. That's what I love about this list. I'll probably do a > full re-build tonight, thanks. I assume it's safest to just re-build > the whole build order from get-e.org? Actually, and this is probably > going to expose my "n00b" underbelly... When I download from CVS to > /usr/src and configure, compile, and install, does it ever use anything > from /usr/src after that point? If not, I'd much rather do my > re-building over SSH from work and just re-start E when I get home. once compiled and installed the soruce tree is not needed anymore. you can do what you want with it. > Also, I noticed a small bug in my pager. I'm not sure if this is fixed > in an updated version (I'll know tonight, I guess), but when I > de/re-activated my pager module yesterday I found that sticky windows > were no longer visible on every desktop in the pager, though they were > still sticky in the WM. De/re-stickifying them updated the pager. will have to look at this. noted. > > > Regards, > David P. Donahue > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.cyber0ne.com > > > --- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E17 4 Win ?
Am Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:10:54 -0400 schrieb Mike Russo: > But I get my eyecandy fix when I have to work on windows by changing > skins with WindowBlinds (www.windowblinds.net). ;) I looked at the screenshots and videos. For example the FX videos[1] look very impressive. Will such effects be available for E17 in future? And I couldn't see if this are pseudo-shadows or real-shadows, but they look really good[2]. Is Windows at this point technical "better" than X? regards Andreas [1] http://www.stardock.com/video/windowfx1.wmv http://www.stardock.com/video/winfx21.wmv [2] http://www.stardock.com/products/windowblinds/wb-july03.jpg --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
