[e-users] Gentoo

2005-03-20 Thread Martin White
Apologies if this has been covered before, but has anyone done Gentoo 
"emerge"'s for e17??

I've recently been on a bit of a roller coaster ride of linux distro's and 
have found that while building / installing gentoo was a bit of a pain it's 
meant i've got a distro with no more than just what i want.

It would be nice if i could top that off with an easy "emerge e17"

:)

Ta,
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[e-users] Gentoo Overlay

2012-03-04 Thread Gary Witscher
Do any of you use the gentoo overlay? I'm wondering how well it's 
maintained. Are the wiki instructions current 
(http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/E17#Vapier.27s_Overlay)? I'm just 
beginning a gentoo installation on an old Mac G4 Cube. I'd like to run 
e17, but some of the info I see about this overlay seems to be dated 
(about six months old).

TIA

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Re: [e-users] Gentoo

2005-03-20 Thread Martin White
Oops!

Sorry, found some instructions for doing just that...

Martin.

On Sunday 20 March 2005 23:40, Martin White wrote:
> Apologies if this has been covered before, but has anyone done Gentoo
> "emerge"'s for e17??
>
> I've recently been on a bit of a roller coaster ride of linux distro's and
> have found that while building / installing gentoo was a bit of a pain it's
> meant i've got a distro with no more than just what i want.
>
> It would be nice if i could top that off with an easy "emerge e17"
>
> :)
>
> Ta,
> Martin.
>
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Re: [e-users] Gentoo Overlay

2012-03-05 Thread P Purkayastha
I use the enlightenment overlay. It works and is maintained. Try to follow 
the guide in gentoo wiki a bit _carefully_, doing only the stuff that is 
needed for the enlightenment overlay. 

That guide is in a bit of a mess (see my comments in the discussion 
section). If I get some time, I might try to rewrite the part for the 
enlightenment overlay in the official gentoo wiki ( http://wiki.gentoo.org 
). I can't say anything about the niifaq overlay since I haven't used it 
for nearly 3 years now.

On Monday, March 5, 2012 1:13:41 PM UTC+8, Gary Witscher wrote:
>
> Do any of you use the gentoo overlay? I'm wondering how well it's 
> maintained. Are the wiki instructions current 
> (http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/E17#Vapier.27s_Overlay)? I'm just 
> beginning a gentoo installation on an old Mac G4 Cube. I'd like to run 
> e17, but some of the info I see about this overlay seems to be dated 
> (about six months old).
>
> TIA
>
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Re: [e-users] Gentoo Overlay

2012-03-05 Thread Fredric Johansson
On 3/5/12, Gary Witscher  wrote:
> Do any of you use the gentoo overlay? I'm wondering how well it's
> maintained. Are the wiki instructions current
> (http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/E17#Vapier.27s_Overlay)? I'm just
> beginning a gentoo installation on an old Mac G4 Cube. I'd like to run
> e17, but some of the info I see about this overlay seems to be dated
> (about six months old).
>
> TIA

I haven't had any major problem with the live ebuilds in the
enlightenment overlay, just a few minor things that have been fixed.
It was about 2 months ago following the guide on the wiki.

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Re: [e-users] Gentoo Overlay

2012-03-05 Thread Vadim Efimov
P Purkayastha  писал(а) в своём письме Mon, 05 Mar 2012 
10:38:41 +0100:

> ). I can't say anything about the niifaq overlay since I haven't used it
> for nearly 3 years now.
>

I can say, that niifaq overlay still live and maintained. It have a bit
more packages, but they experimental and sometimes not so well maintained.
So, there are no big difference between enlightenment and niifaq overlays.
Only if you want some adventures and/or portage 2.2 with sets.

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Re: [e-users] Gentoo Overlay

2012-03-12 Thread Austin Morgan
On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 09:13:41PM -0800, Gary Witscher wrote:
> Do any of you use the gentoo overlay? I'm wondering how well it's 
> maintained. Are the wiki instructions current 
> (http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/E17#Vapier.27s_Overlay)? I'm just 
> beginning a gentoo installation on an old Mac G4 Cube. I'd like to run 
> e17, but some of the info I see about this overlay seems to be dated 
> (about six months old).
> 
> TIA
>
I use the gentoo overlay. It works well, the instructions are a little
off but for the most part will get you where you want to go. For a basic
setup emerge enlightenment:17

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Re: [e-users] Gentoo Overlay

2012-03-13 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 13 Mar 2012 03:49:29 Austin Morgan wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 09:13:41PM -0800, Gary Witscher wrote:
> > Do any of you use the gentoo overlay? I'm wondering how well it's
> > maintained. Are the wiki instructions current
> > (http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/E17#Vapier.27s_Overlay)? I'm just
> > beginning a gentoo installation on an old Mac G4 Cube. I'd like to run
> > e17, but some of the info I see about this overlay seems to be dated
> > (about six months old).
> > 
> > TIA
> 
> I use the gentoo overlay. It works well, the instructions are a little
> off but for the most part will get you where you want to go. For a basic
> setup emerge enlightenment:17
> 
> Austin Morgan

I use the enlightenment overlay as maintained by Vapier.  It occasionally 
falls behind, but it will soon catch up again with the trunk.  It should 
provide you with a working desktop and you can select the desired packages one 
by one, if you don't need/want to install everything.

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[e-users] Gentoo E17 modules

2006-07-20 Thread powergen
Hi All,

Can some one let me know the state of modules for E17. I have emerged e_modules
in gentoo, but I see a lot that are not there.
IE, the weather module, if you enable it, enlightenment crashes and you have to 
re-start. Are these still to be ported from e16?

Can some-one give me a list of modules that do work, and that can be enabled 
safely.

Thanks,
Bernard

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[e-users] Gentoo, E17 & Entrace

2004-07-09 Thread Linux
I was wondering if any Gentoo users have emerged Entrance & E17.  I see
that both of these & all the dependencies for them are masked.  But I am
guessing they work pretty well even  if not totally stable.  I also
expect that E17 is not fully functional yet since it's still being
written.  Mostly I would just like to see how it's going and play with
it.

So, is it same to emerge both of these without destroying anything?  And
would I be correct that E17 / E16 are slotted so they can coexist?  

One other question, does E17 use the same *.menu files as E16?  Can I
take .enlightenment/file.menu and other such files and simply copy them
to the E17 directory?

Thank you in advance for your answers.
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[e-users] Gentoo Overlay ebuild issue

2012-08-05 Thread SndChaser
Hi,
I hope I'm going to find the person that is maintaining the Gentoo 
overlay ebuilds for e17.  There appears to be an issue in the ebuild(s) 
that causes the fribidi portion to portion to fail (somehow the  library 
search path in the environment is getting messed up) with an abort of 
the compilation:

   CC module_la-evas_outbuf.lo
In file included from /usr/include/fribidi/fribidi.h:35:0,
  from 
../../../../src/lib/include/../engines/common/language/evas_bidi_utils.h:31,
  from 
../../../../src/lib/include/../engines/common/evas_text_utils.h:15,
  from 
../../../../src/lib/include/../engines/common/evas_font_ot.h:37,
  from ../../../../src/lib/include/evas_common.h:940,
  from evas_engine.c:1:
/usr/include/fribidi/fribidi-common.h:65:20: fatal error: glib.h: No 
such file or directory
compilation terminated.
In file included from /usr/include/fribidi/fribidi.h:35:0,
  from 
../../../../src/lib/include/../engines/common/language/evas_bidi_utils.h:31,
  from 
../../../../src/lib/include/../engines/common/evas_text_utils.h:15,
  from 
../../../../src/lib/include/../engines/common/evas_font_ot.h:37,
  from ../../../../src/lib/include/evas_common.h:940,
  from ../../../../src/lib/cserve2/evas_cs2_private.h:4,
  from evas_outbuf.c:6:
/usr/include/fribidi/fribidi-common.h:65:20: fatal error: glib.h: No 
such file or directory
compilation terminated.

This appears to be a known Gentoo bug: 
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89432

I have confirmed that this problem also occurs using the e17-easy.sh 
install script.

I don't know the following:

1) If this should be a "bug" filed with Enlightenment to provide a 
work-around for the Gentoo ebuilds (IMO - this really looks like it 
should be fixed by the fribidi upstream, but maybe there is something 
else at play with automake that is really causing the issue?).

2) I don't know how to take the suggestion from the Gentoo bug report 
and apply it against the ebuilds I have here.

Can someone give me some assistance with this issue?

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Re: [e-users] Gentoo E17 modules

2006-07-20 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 13:02:31 +1200 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Can some one let me know the state of modules for E17. I have emerged
> e_modules in gentoo, but I see a lot that are not there.
> IE, the weather module, if you enable it, enlightenment crashes and
> you have to re-start. Are these still to be ported from e16?

E17 modules are completely different from anything in E16, they are not
ported, but written from scratch.  The weather module works fine here,
but I'm not using gentoo.
 
> Can some-one give me a list of modules that do work, and that can be
> enabled safely.

I run almost all of the modules for testing purposes, and most of them
work fine.  Maybe a gentoo user can list those that don't work on
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Re: [e-users] Gentoo E17 modules

2006-07-20 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 13:44:40 +1200 "Bernard Mentink"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Will do as you say. By the way, another E17 question. How do you move
> gadgets from one shelf to another, and how do I make the gadget
> background transparent so I only see the gadget on the wallpaper, not
> the box around it.

Shelves are independent of one another, and each can contain gadgets
that may or may not already be in other shelves.  Use the "Shelves"
configuration dialog from the configuration panel to choose which
gadgets are in each shelf, and to make each shelf transparent, as well
as a bunch of other options.  You will need to use the advanced dialog
to see all the options.


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Re: [e-users] Gentoo E17 modules

2006-07-21 Thread Klaus Wagner
I am using modules on gentoo. most work really fine.
when using gentoo portage to install e_modules keep in mind,
that you should emerge ALL packages that are related to
e17. There seem to be heavy changes in apis that are causing
several things not to work befor the changes are applied to
that pieces of module code (e17 is under heavy developement ;)

If I expirience any problems I normally emerge the whole bunch
of e17 "packages" and if that doesn't work, wait a day and do
the same again.

regards klaus

ps. another thing to keep in mind that you should throw the whole
configuration ".e directory" away if you doing updates ... some recent
module settings seem to crash newer versions...

On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 11:09 +1000, David Seikel wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 13:02:31 +1200 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Can some one let me know the state of modules for E17. I have emerged
> > e_modules in gentoo, but I see a lot that are not there.
> > IE, the weather module, if you enable it, enlightenment crashes and
> > you have to re-start. Are these still to be ported from e16?
> 
> E17 modules are completely different from anything in E16, they are not
> ported, but written from scratch.  The weather module works fine here,
> but I'm not using gentoo.
>  
> > Can some-one give me a list of modules that do work, and that can be
> > enabled safely.
> 
> I run almost all of the modules for testing purposes, and most of them
> work fine.  Maybe a gentoo user can list those that don't work on
> gentoo.
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Re: [e-users] Gentoo E17 modules

2006-07-21 Thread Fernando Meira
On 7/21/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Can some one let me know the state of modules for E17. I have emerged 
> e_modules
> in gentoo, but I see a lot that are not there.

I been using portage to install (but not manage) my e17 packages until
a few weeks ago.. but I found it much better to leave portage out of
the game when comes to e. Why don't you use a script to download CVS
and install all you want?

> Can some-one give me a list of modules that do work, and that can be enabled 
> safely.
>

Well... that depends on the days... :)

Fernando.

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Re: [e-users] Gentoo E17 modules

2006-07-23 Thread Bernard Mentink
Thanks David,Will do as you say. By the way, another E17 question. How do you move gadgets from one shelf to another, and how do I make the gadget background transparent so I only see the gadget on the wallpaper, not the box around it.
Thanks,BernardOn 7/21/06, David Seikel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 13:02:31 +1200 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Can some one let me know the state of modules for E17. I have emerged> e_modules in gentoo, but I see a lot that are not there.
> IE, the weather module, if you enable it, enlightenment crashes and> you have to re-start. Are these still to be ported from e16?E17 modules are completely different from anything in E16, they are not
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Re: [e-users] Gentoo E17 modules

2006-07-23 Thread Bernard Mentink




Thanks,

I did a build of all in the correct order, and I now have the weather
module, I will try the others as well. Thanks.

I compiled the source in this order:

dev-db/edb
 dev-libs/eet
 x11-libs/evas
 x11-libs/ecore
 dev-libs/embryo
 media-libs/edje
 x11-wm/e
 dev-libs/exml
 x11-libs/ewl
 media-libs/epeg
 media-libs/epsilon
 x11-libs/esmart
 dev-libs/engrave
 dev-util/e_utils
 x11-plugins/e_modules
 media-video/eclair
 app-misc/entropy
 media-gfx/ephoto

Cheers,
Bernard

Klaus Wagner wrote:

  I am using modules on gentoo. most work really fine.
when using gentoo portage to install e_modules keep in mind,
that you should emerge ALL packages that are related to
e17. There seem to be heavy changes in apis that are causing
several things not to work befor the changes are applied to
that pieces of module code (e17 is under heavy developement ;)

If I expirience any problems I normally emerge the whole bunch
of e17 "packages" and if that doesn't work, wait a day and do
the same again.

regards klaus

ps. another thing to keep in mind that you should throw the whole
configuration ".e directory" away if you doing updates ... some recent
module settings seem to crash newer versions...

On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 11:09 +1000, David Seikel wrote:
  
  
On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 13:02:31 +1200 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



  Can some one let me know the state of modules for E17. I have emerged
e_modules in gentoo, but I see a lot that are not there.
IE, the weather module, if you enable it, enlightenment crashes and
you have to re-start. Are these still to be ported from e16?
  

E17 modules are completely different from anything in E16, they are not
ported, but written from scratch.  The weather module works fine here,
but I'm not using gentoo.
 


  Can some-one give me a list of modules that do work, and that can be
enabled safely.
  

I run almost all of the modules for testing purposes, and most of them
work fine.  Maybe a gentoo user can list those that don't work on
gentoo.
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[e-users] Gentoo ebuilds for e17

2007-01-30 Thread Lucian-Mircea Patcas
Gentooists can still build e17 using Gentoo Overlay. The following info
should be all that you need so you get a fresh e17 build:

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[e-users] Gentoo & Legacy E-conf

2004-03-03 Thread Linux
Opps...  Sending this again as I sent it from the wrong email address &
don't know if it will go thru.  I appoligize for my stupidity if this
appears on list twice

I do know that E-Conf is no longer supported, but I do like it.  =)

Questions:

Is there a package for Gentoo for E-Conf?  If so, what the heck is it
called.  I can't find it, tried gentoo.org and searching with emerge.

If not, where can I find the source code.  I check enlightenment.org,
but no luck there, unless I'm just not looking in the right place.

Thank you very much.
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Re: [e-users] Gentoo, E17 & Entrace

2004-07-09 Thread John Charnas
Linux wrote:
I was wondering if any Gentoo users have emerged Entrance & E17.  I see
that both of these & all the dependencies for them are masked.  But I am
guessing they work pretty well even  if not totally stable.  I also
expect that E17 is not fully functional yet since it's still being
written.  Mostly I would just like to see how it's going and play with
it.
So, is it same to emerge both of these without destroying anything?  And
would I be correct that E17 / E16 are slotted so they can coexist?  

One other question, does E17 use the same *.menu files as E16?  Can I
take .enlightenment/file.menu and other such files and simply copy them
to the E17 directory?
Thank you in advance for your answers.
Adrian
 

No, there is currently no building of E17 in gentoo. Entrance builds and 
works fine, but DR17 isn't there. The ebuild existed at one point, but 
it's totally outdated (about a year, if not more). Forget about DR17 
until the EFL are completed. Patience my friend, patience. Entrance is a 
good and easy build on gentoo though. It will install the EFL snapshots 
present in portage, and everything should go well, but don't hope for 
DR17 just yet. As to the menu files, I honestly don't know.

Cheers,
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Re: [e-users] Gentoo, E17 & Entrace

2004-07-09 Thread cw
> I was wondering if any Gentoo users have emerged Entrance & E17.  I see
> that both of these & all the dependencies for them are masked.  But I am
> guessing they work pretty well even  if not totally stable.  I also
> expect that E17 is not fully functional yet since it's still being
> written.  Mostly I would just like to see how it's going and play with
> it.
>
> So, is it same to emerge both of these without destroying anything?  And
> would I be correct that E17 / E16 are slotted so they can coexist?
>
> One other question, does E17 use the same *.menu files as E16?  Can I
> take .enlightenment/file.menu and other such files and simply copy them
> to the E17 directory?
>
> Thank you in advance for your answers.
> Adrian
>

Well, first of all, there isn't currently an e17 window manager/desktop
shell that you can download and install. You can, however, install the e17
libs and apps suuch as entrance, and they work very well. The easiest
thing to do is emerge entrance and any other apps you want such as
evidence, erss, and entice; doing so will, of course, install all of the
e17 libs automatically.

When there is a usable e17 wm, it will be a completely different package
with a different ebuild, so it isn't necessary for them to be slotted.
Also, they will have completely different config files in different
directories so there will be no problems having both installed at the same
time.

As far as compatability between the menu files, that probably won't be
possible. One of the new e17 libs (edb) is specifically for configuration,
and I'm assuming that's how menu files will be configured.

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Re: [e-users] Gentoo, E17 & Entrace

2004-07-12 Thread Linux
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 23:32:43 -0700 (PDT)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the words:

> > I was wondering if any Gentoo users have emerged Entrance & E17.  I
> > see that both of these & all the dependencies for them are masked. 
> > But I am guessing they work pretty well even  if not totally stable.
> >  I also
> > expect that E17 is not fully functional yet since it's still being
> > written.  Mostly I would just like to see how it's going and play
> > with it.
> >
> > So, is it same to emerge both of these without destroying anything? 
> > And would I be correct that E17 / E16 are slotted so they can
> > coexist?
> >
> > One other question, does E17 use the same *.menu files as E16?  Can
> > I take .enlightenment/file.menu and other such files and simply copy
> > them to the E17 directory?
> >
> > Thank you in advance for your answers.
> > Adrian
> >
> 
> Well, first of all, there isn't currently an e17 window
> manager/desktop shell that you can download and install. You can,
> however, install the e17 libs and apps suuch as entrance, and they
> work very well. The easiest thing to do is emerge entrance and any
> other apps you want such as evidence, erss, and entice; doing so will,
> of course, install all of the e17 libs automatically.
> 
> When there is a usable e17 wm, it will be a completely different
> package with a different ebuild, so it isn't necessary for them to be
> slotted. Also, they will have completely different config files in
> different directories so there will be no problems having both
> installed at the same time.
> 
> As far as compatability between the menu files, that probably won't be
> possible. One of the new e17 libs (edb) is specifically for
> configuration, and I'm assuming that's how menu files will be
> configured.
> 
> Christopher


Thanks for the info.  I have spent so much time creating my E menus -- I
would hate having to redo all that work.  Of course it only has to be
done once, but then I'm really lazy.  That's why I like Linux.  I don't
have to restart my computer every time I do something.

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Re: [e-users] Gentoo, E17 & Entrace

2004-07-12 Thread Linux
On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 23:19:27 +
John Charnas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the words:

> Linux wrote:
> 
> >I was wondering if any Gentoo users have emerged Entrance & E17.  I
> >see that both of these & all the dependencies for them are masked. 
> >But I am guessing they work pretty well even  if not totally stable. 
> >I also expect that E17 is not fully functional yet since it's still
> >being written.  Mostly I would just like to see how it's going and
> >play with it.
> >
> >So, is it same to emerge both of these without destroying anything? 
> >And would I be correct that E17 / E16 are slotted so they can
> >coexist?  
> >
> >One other question, does E17 use the same *.menu files as E16?  Can I
> >take .enlightenment/file.menu and other such files and simply copy
> >them to the E17 directory?
> >
> >Thank you in advance for your answers.
> >Adrian
> >
> >  
> >
> No, there is currently no building of E17 in gentoo. Entrance builds
> and works fine, but DR17 isn't there. The ebuild existed at one point,
> but it's totally outdated (about a year, if not more). Forget about
> DR17 until the EFL are completed. Patience my friend, patience.
> Entrance is a good and easy build on gentoo though. It will install
> the EFL snapshots present in portage, and everything should go well,
> but don't hope for DR17 just yet. As to the menu files, I honestly
> don't know.
> 
> Cheers,
> John


Hi John, thanks for the info.

I see there is an Enlightenment CVS, I was guessing that was E17. 
Evidently not.  Oh well, I will live.

I did get Entrance installed and working however.  It looks so great. 
Now I actually log out of E just so I can see Entrance.

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Re: [e-users] Gentoo, E17 & Entrace

2004-07-12 Thread cw
> Thanks for the info.  I have spent so much time creating my E menus -- I
> would hate having to redo all that work.  Of course it only has to be
> done once, but then I'm really lazy.  That's why I like Linux.  I don't
> have to restart my computer every time I do something.
>
> Oh well, I will live.
>
> Adrian
>

After thinking about it, I would be very surprised if there will not
eventually be a script to make e17 menus based on your e16 menus, as it
would be a fairly trivial task.

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[e-users] [gentoo][e17] Themes not applied

2010-08-15 Thread Cédric Tabin
Hello guys,

I just compiled the last sources of e17 (there were also a lot of updates,
ie the new xorg-server 1.7.7) and it worked. The problem is, after I
restared e17, the theme used is always Black&White...
I put my theme (blingbling.edj) in .e/e/themes, go on the theme
configuration panel, select "Base Theme" and "Blingbling" and make apply,
but the look and feel of my desktop stays with the Black&White. I tested
with other themes : I'm unable to change the current theme (however, I could
change the wallpaper).

I tried to recompile xorg drivers, revdep-rebuild and other things, but
nothing works... Is there something special to do ?

Thanks & best regards,
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Re: [e-users] Gentoo Overlay ebuild issue

2012-08-05 Thread SndChaser
Forgot to add,

I've paste-binnned build logs, environment logs, etc here:

http://pastebin.sabayon.org/pastie/10173
http://pastebin.sabayon.org/pastie/10174
http://pastebin.sabayon.org/pastie/10175

George

On 2012-08-05 12:32, SndChaser wrote:
> Hi,
> I hope I'm going to find the person that is maintaining the Gentoo
> overlay ebuilds for e17.  There appears to be an issue in the 
> ebuild(s)
> that causes the fribidi portion to portion to fail (somehow the  
> library
> search path in the environment is getting messed up) with an abort of
> the compilation:
>
>CC module_la-evas_outbuf.lo
> In file included from /usr/include/fribidi/fribidi.h:35:0,
>   from
> 
> ../../../../src/lib/include/../engines/common/language/evas_bidi_utils.h:31,
>   from
> ../../../../src/lib/include/../engines/common/evas_text_utils.h:15,
>   from
> ../../../../src/lib/include/../engines/common/evas_font_ot.h:37,
>   from ../../../../src/lib/include/evas_common.h:940,
>   from evas_engine.c:1:
> /usr/include/fribidi/fribidi-common.h:65:20: fatal error: glib.h: No
> such file or directory
> compilation terminated.
> In file included from /usr/include/fribidi/fribidi.h:35:0,
>   from
> 
> ../../../../src/lib/include/../engines/common/language/evas_bidi_utils.h:31,
>   from
> ../../../../src/lib/include/../engines/common/evas_text_utils.h:15,
>   from
> ../../../../src/lib/include/../engines/common/evas_font_ot.h:37,
>   from ../../../../src/lib/include/evas_common.h:940,
>   from 
> ../../../../src/lib/cserve2/evas_cs2_private.h:4,
>   from evas_outbuf.c:6:
> /usr/include/fribidi/fribidi-common.h:65:20: fatal error: glib.h: No
> such file or directory
> compilation terminated.
>
> This appears to be a known Gentoo bug:
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89432
>
> I have confirmed that this problem also occurs using the e17-easy.sh
> install script.
>
> I don't know the following:
>
> 1) If this should be a "bug" filed with Enlightenment to provide a
> work-around for the Gentoo ebuilds (IMO - this really looks like it
> should be fixed by the fribidi upstream, but maybe there is something
> else at play with automake that is really causing the issue?).
>
> 2) I don't know how to take the suggestion from the Gentoo bug report
> and apply it against the ebuilds I have here.
>
> Can someone give me some assistance with this issue?

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Re: [e-users] Gentoo Overlay ebuild issue

2012-08-05 Thread Mick
On Sunday 05 Aug 2012 18:52:36 SndChaser wrote:
> Forgot to add,
> 
> I've paste-binnned build logs, environment logs, etc here:
> 
> http://pastebin.sabayon.org/pastie/10173
> http://pastebin.sabayon.org/pastie/10174
> http://pastebin.sabayon.org/pastie/10175


Hi George,

Since this is a Gentoo specific bug you should send a message to 
enlightenm...@gentoo.org and a dev will look into it.

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Re: [e-users] Gentoo Overlay ebuild issue

2012-08-05 Thread SndChaser
Thanks Nick,

I've forwarded my messages to the gentoo address.

George

On 2012-08-05 13:38, Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 05 Aug 2012 18:52:36 SndChaser wrote:
>> Forgot to add,
>>
>> I've paste-binnned build logs, environment logs, etc here:
>>
>> http://pastebin.sabayon.org/pastie/10173
>> http://pastebin.sabayon.org/pastie/10174
>> http://pastebin.sabayon.org/pastie/10175
>
>
> Hi George,
>
> Since this is a Gentoo specific bug you should send a message to
> enlightenm...@gentoo.org and a dev will look into it.

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Re: [e-users] Gentoo Overlay ebuild issue

2012-08-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 16:24:22 -0500 SndChaser  said:

it is only gentoo specific because gentoo loves to play with configure options
that are not tested normally. as a result of this kind of behaviour we are
planning to remove tonnes of build options. it's too much overhead to manage.

> Thanks Nick,
> 
> I've forwarded my messages to the gentoo address.
> 
> George
> 
> On 2012-08-05 13:38, Mick wrote:
> > On Sunday 05 Aug 2012 18:52:36 SndChaser wrote:
> >> Forgot to add,
> >>
> >> I've paste-binnned build logs, environment logs, etc here:
> >>
> >> http://pastebin.sabayon.org/pastie/10173
> >> http://pastebin.sabayon.org/pastie/10174
> >> http://pastebin.sabayon.org/pastie/10175
> >
> >
> > Hi George,
> >
> > Since this is a Gentoo specific bug you should send a message to
> > enlightenm...@gentoo.org and a dev will look into it.
> 
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Re: [e-users] Gentoo Overlay ebuild issue

2012-08-06 Thread Mick
On Monday 06 Aug 2012 01:00:48 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 16:24:22 -0500 SndChaser 
> said:
> 
> it is only gentoo specific because gentoo loves to play with configure
> options that are not tested normally. as a result of this kind of
> behaviour we are planning to remove tonnes of build options. it's too much
> overhead to manage.

Yes, too many options cause exponential probabilities that something will 
break.  However, sane defaults by ebuild devs should get expected results.

Other than a buggy ebuild, there are always over-zealous users who tweak their 
options to destruction, but they soon learn that they get to keep both pieces.  
Those who stay with Gentoo and intentionally change their flags also learn how 
to fix what they borked.  So they can be safely ignored.  ;-)

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Re: [e-users] Gentoo Overlay ebuild issue

2012-08-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 08:48:45 +0100 Mick  said:

> On Monday 06 Aug 2012 01:00:48 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> > On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 16:24:22 -0500 SndChaser 
> > said:
> > 
> > it is only gentoo specific because gentoo loves to play with configure
> > options that are not tested normally. as a result of this kind of
> > behaviour we are planning to remove tonnes of build options. it's too much
> > overhead to manage.
> 
> Yes, too many options cause exponential probabilities that something will 
> break.  However, sane defaults by ebuild devs should get expected results.

if gentoo didn't turn on building of enignes that are OFF by default... u'd be
fine. :)

> Other than a buggy ebuild, there are always over-zealous users who tweak
> their options to destruction, but they soon learn that they get to keep both
> pieces. Those who stay with Gentoo and intentionally change their flags also
> learn how to fix what they borked.  So they can be safely ignored.  ;-)

actually both gentoo ebuild users and the tweakers end up on our doorstep
asking us for help with their tweaked builds. on our irc/email lists. though
it's nice to help - we help again and again and repeat ourselves that those
options are for people who know exactly what they are doing with the option. if
u dont know then accept defaults without a --enable or --disable in sight. :) u
do more than that then deal with your own problems - they never do though. we
end up with them. so the future is many fewer options. u'll be patching src to
change things and that tends to be a barrier high enough to keep the tweakers
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Re: [e-users] Gentoo Overlay ebuild issue

2012-08-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 17:45:36 +0900
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)  wrote:

> actually both gentoo ebuild users and the tweakers end up on our
> doorstep asking us for help with their tweaked builds. on our
> irc/email lists.


We call those people "ricers"

Maybe you should follow our lead on the gentoo user lists - we help out
ricers as and when we feel like it but mostly just tell them to put
everything back to stock and observe how stuff now works.

Myself, I've been using e17 on gentoo for 6 years or more and I've
used all 3 well-known overlays. Never had a problem with them yet worth
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Re: [e-users] Gentoo Overlay ebuild issue

2012-08-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 12:18:56 +0200 Alan McKinnon  said:

> On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 17:45:36 +0900
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)  wrote:
> 
> > actually both gentoo ebuild users and the tweakers end up on our
> > doorstep asking us for help with their tweaked builds. on our
> > irc/email lists.
> 
> 
> We call those people "ricers"
> 
> Maybe you should follow our lead on the gentoo user lists - we help out
> ricers as and when we feel like it but mostly just tell them to put
> everything back to stock and observe how stuff now works.
> 
> Myself, I've been using e17 on gentoo for 6 years or more and I've
> used all 3 well-known overlays. Never had a problem with them yet worth
> mentioning.

time to make this a rice free zone! :)

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Re: [e-users] Gentoo Overlay ebuild issue

2012-08-06 Thread P Purkayastha
On 08/06/2012 04:45 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> actually both gentoo ebuild users and the tweakers end up on our doorstep
> asking us for help with their tweaked builds. on our irc/email lists. though
> it's nice to help - we help again and again and repeat ourselves that those
> options are for people who know exactly what they are doing with the option. 
> if
> u dont know then accept defaults without a --enable or --disable in sight. :) 
> u
> do more than that then deal with your own problems - they never do though. we
> end up with them. so the future is many fewer options. u'll be patching src to
> change things and that tends to be a barrier high enough to keep the tweakers
> out :)
>

That's not quite true. At least with *good* ebuilds in current Gentoo. 
*Good* ebuilds themselves provides configure options such that the 
default configure options are sane. For example look at the default 
options for evas:

~» eix -e evas
[I] media-libs/evas
  Available versions:  (~)1.0.1 (~)1.1.0 (~)1.2.1 (**){tbz2}[1] 
{X altivec bidi +bmp +cache directfb doc +eet fbcon +fontconfig gif gles 
+ico +jpeg mmx nls opengl +png +ppm +psd sdl sse sse3 static-libs svg 
tga +threads tiff xcb xpm}


You see all the + things? It means that those configure options (USE 
flags in Gentoo terminology) are all enabled by default and the rest are 
disabled by default. This means that if the user is not a ricer, then 
he/she will be compiling evas with just the options that are not likely 
to break evas. If the user is a ricer, he/she will tweak around with all 
the configure flags irrespective of the linux distro. Gentoo just makes 
this tweaking easier.


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Re: [e-users] Gentoo Overlay ebuild issue

2012-08-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 23:00:33 +0800
P Purkayastha  wrote:

> On 08/06/2012 04:45 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > actually both gentoo ebuild users and the tweakers end up on our
> > doorstep asking us for help with their tweaked builds. on our
> > irc/email lists. though it's nice to help - we help again and again
> > and repeat ourselves that those options are for people who know
> > exactly what they are doing with the option. if u dont know then
> > accept defaults without a --enable or --disable in sight. :) u do
> > more than that then deal with your own problems - they never do
> > though. we end up with them. so the future is many fewer options.
> > u'll be patching src to change things and that tends to be a
> > barrier high enough to keep the tweakers out :)
> >
> 
> That's not quite true. At least with *good* ebuilds in current
> Gentoo. *Good* ebuilds themselves provides configure options such
> that the default configure options are sane. For example look at the
> default options for evas:
> 
> ~» eix -e evas
> [I] media-libs/evas
>   Available versions:  (~)1.0.1 (~)1.1.0 (~)1.2.1
> (**){tbz2}[1] {X altivec bidi +bmp +cache directfb doc +eet fbcon
> +fontconfig gif gles +ico +jpeg mmx nls opengl +png +ppm +psd sdl sse
> sse3 static-libs svg tga +threads tiff xcb xpm}
> 
> 
> You see all the + things? It means that those configure options (USE 
> flags in Gentoo terminology) are all enabled by default and the rest
> are disabled by default. 

Hmmm, not quite. Those are the defaults for the ebuild only.

The user may well have enabled several of those flags system-wide in
make.conf, such things as mmx, sdl, sse and xcb. In which case they
will be enabled regardless of what the ebuild says.

Better to look at other stuff in the ebuild, like this:



src_configure() {
if use X ; then
if use xcb ; then
ewarn "You have enabled both 'X' and 'xcb', so
we will use" ewarn "X as it's considered the most stable for evas"
fi
MY_ECONF="
--disable-software-xcb
$(use_enable opengl gl-xlib)
"
elif use xcb ; then
MY_ECONF="
--disable-gl-xlib
--enable-software-xcb
$(use_enable opengl gl-xcb)
"
else
MY_ECONF="
--disable-gl-xlib
--disable-software-xcb
--disable-gl-xcb
"
fi

#   $(use_enable cache metric-cache)
#   $(use_enable cache word-cache)
MY_ECONF+="
--disable-metric-cache
--disable-word-cache
$(use_enable altivec cpu-altivec)
$(use_enable bidi fribidi)
$(use_enable bmp image-loader-bmp)
$(use_enable bmp image-loader-wbmp)
$(use_enable directfb)
$(use_enable doc)
$(use_enable eet font-loader-eet)
$(use_enable eet image-loader-eet)
$(use_enable fbcon fb)
$(use_enable fontconfig)
$(use_enable gles gl-flavor-gles)
$(use_enable gles gles-variety-sgx)
$(use_enable gif image-loader-gif)
$(use_enable ico image-loader-ico)
$(use_enable jpeg image-loader-jpeg)
$(use_enable mmx cpu-mmx)
$(use_enable png image-loader-png)
$(use_enable ppm image-loader-pmaps)
$(use_enable psd image-loader-psd)
$(use_enable sdl software-sdl)
$(use_enable sse cpu-sse)
$(use_enable sse3 cpu-sse3)
$(use_enable svg image-loader-svg)
$(use_enable tga image-loader-tga)
$(use_enable tiff image-loader-tiff)
$(use_enable threads pthreads)
$(use_enable threads async-events)
$(use_enable threads async-preload)
$(use_enable threads async-render)
$(use_enable X software-xlib)
$(use_enable xpm image-loader-xpm)
--enable-evas-magic-debug \
--enable-static-software-generic \
--enable-buffer \
--enable-cpu-c \
--enable-scale-sample \
--enable-scale-smooth \
--enable-convert-8-rgb-332 \
--enable-convert-8-rgb-666 \
--enable-convert-8-rgb-232 \
--enable-convert-8-rgb-222 \
--enable-convert-8-rgb-221 \
--enable-convert-8-rgb-121 \
--enable-convert-8-rgb-111 \
--enable-convert-16-rgb-565 \
--enable-convert-16-rgb-555 \
--enable-convert-16-rgb-444 \
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Re: [e-users] Gentoo Overlay ebuild issue

2012-08-06 Thread P Purkayastha
On 08/06/2012 11:39 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 23:00:33 +0800
> P Purkayastha  wrote:
>
>> On 08/06/2012 04:45 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>>> actually both gentoo ebuild users and the tweakers end up on our
>>> doorstep asking us for help with their tweaked builds. on our
>>> irc/email lists. though it's nice to help - we help again and again
>>> and repeat ourselves that those options are for people who know
>>> exactly what they are doing with the option. if u dont know then
>>> accept defaults without a --enable or --disable in sight. :) u do
>>> more than that then deal with your own problems - they never do
>>> though. we end up with them. so the future is many fewer options.
>>> u'll be patching src to change things and that tends to be a
>>> barrier high enough to keep the tweakers out :)
>>>
>>
>> That's not quite true. At least with *good* ebuilds in current
>> Gentoo. *Good* ebuilds themselves provides configure options such
>> that the default configure options are sane. For example look at the
>> default options for evas:
>>
>> ~» eix -e evas
>> [I] media-libs/evas
>>Available versions:  (~)1.0.1 (~)1.1.0 (~)1.2.1
>> (**){tbz2}[1] {X altivec bidi +bmp +cache directfb doc +eet fbcon
>> +fontconfig gif gles +ico +jpeg mmx nls opengl +png +ppm +psd sdl sse
>> sse3 static-libs svg tga +threads tiff xcb xpm}
>>
>>
>> You see all the + things? It means that those configure options (USE
>> flags in Gentoo terminology) are all enabled by default and the rest
>> are disabled by default.
>
> Hmmm, not quite. Those are the defaults for the ebuild only.
>
> The user may well have enabled several of those flags system-wide in
> make.conf, such things as mmx, sdl, sse and xcb. In which case they
> will be enabled regardless of what the ebuild says.


Yes, that's true. But only a ricer will go ahead and enable flags that 
are destructive or not useful. If you have an old enough machine, you 
won't enable sse2, but you will probably enable sse and mmx. That makes 
sense. I don't enable sse3 on my make.conf because my cpu doesn't 
support that instruction set. On the other hand I know that my cpu can 
handle sse2 instructions, so I have enabled it. So, now evas, mplayer, 
etc can all make use of this fact.


> Better to look at other stuff in the ebuild, like this:
>
>
>
> src_configure() {
>  if use X ; then
>  if use xcb ; then
>  ewarn "You have enabled both 'X' and 'xcb', so
> we will use" ewarn "X as it's considered the most stable for evas"
>  fi
>  MY_ECONF="
>  --disable-software-xcb
>  $(use_enable opengl gl-xlib)
>  "
>  elif use xcb ; then
>  MY_ECONF="
>  --disable-gl-xlib
>  --enable-software-xcb
>  $(use_enable opengl gl-xcb)
>  "
>  else
>  MY_ECONF="
>  --disable-gl-xlib
>  --disable-software-xcb
>  --disable-gl-xcb
>  "
>  fi


This part is clear. If the user enables xcb (the user will have X 
enabled anyway if he selects the desktop profile), then the ebuild will 
default to X instead of xcb. This is actually good! For instance, 
elementary doesn't work with xcb (so, no 'terminology' for you if you 
forcibly disabled X for e and efl!). If the user doesn't have X, then 
the user doesn't want gl or xcb either.


>
> #   $(use_enable cache metric-cache)
> #   $(use_enable cache word-cache)
>  MY_ECONF+="
>  --disable-metric-cache
>  --disable-word-cache
>  $(use_enable altivec cpu-altivec)
>  $(use_enable bidi fribidi)
>  $(use_enable bmp image-loader-bmp)
>  $(use_enable bmp image-loader-wbmp)
>  $(use_enable directfb)
>  $(use_enable doc)
>  $(use_enable eet font-loader-eet)
>  $(use_enable eet image-loader-eet)
>  $(use_enable fbcon fb)
>  $(use_enable fontconfig)
>  $(use_enable gles gl-flavor-gles)
>  $(use_enable gles gles-variety-sgx)
>  $(use_enable gif image-loader-gif)
>  $(use_enable ico image-loader-ico)
>  $(use_enable jpeg image-loader-jpeg)
>  $(use_enable mmx cpu-mmx)
>  $(use_enable png image-loader-png)
>  $(use_enable ppm image-loader-pmaps)
>  $(use_enable psd image-loader-psd)
>  $(use_enable sdl software-sdl)
>  $(use_enable sse cpu-sse)
>  $(use_enable sse3 cpu-sse3)
>  $(use_enable svg image-loader-svg)
>  $(use_enab

Re: [e-users] Gentoo Overlay ebuild issue

2012-08-06 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 12:00 PM, P Purkayastha  wrote:
> On 08/06/2012 04:45 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>> actually both gentoo ebuild users and the tweakers end up on our doorstep
>> asking us for help with their tweaked builds. on our irc/email lists. though
>> it's nice to help - we help again and again and repeat ourselves that those
>> options are for people who know exactly what they are doing with the option. 
>> if
>> u dont know then accept defaults without a --enable or --disable in sight. 
>> :) u
>> do more than that then deal with your own problems - they never do though. we
>> end up with them. so the future is many fewer options. u'll be patching src 
>> to
>> change things and that tends to be a barrier high enough to keep the tweakers
>> out :)
>>
>
> That's not quite true. At least with *good* ebuilds in current Gentoo.
> *Good* ebuilds themselves provides configure options such that the
> default configure options are sane. For example look at the default
> options for evas:
>
> ~» eix -e evas
> [I] media-libs/evas
>   Available versions:  (~)1.0.1 (~)1.1.0 (~)1.2.1 (**){tbz2}[1]
> {X altivec bidi +bmp +cache directfb doc +eet fbcon +fontconfig gif gles
> +ico +jpeg mmx nls opengl +png +ppm +psd sdl sse sse3 static-libs svg
> tga +threads tiff xcb xpm}
>
>
> You see all the + things? It means that those configure options (USE
> flags in Gentoo terminology) are all enabled by default and the rest are
> disabled by default. This means that if the user is not a ricer, then
> he/she will be compiling evas with just the options that are not likely
> to break evas. If the user is a ricer, he/she will tweak around with all
> the configure flags irrespective of the linux distro. Gentoo just makes
> this tweaking easier.

it's worth to note that Gentoo is the only distro that packages
EFL/E17 in its most updated form. You can emerge directly from SVN and
test the latest code.

Then it's expected that some gentoo users will show with some problems due that.

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Re: [e-users] Gentoo Overlay ebuild issue

2012-08-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
Top posting as I'm not really replying to your statements directly.

I do agree with everything you said, and raster and I have had this
good-natured argument about Gentoo before. I don't know if 
the argument was won but it sure wasn't by me :-)

I just wanted to add that for the most part devs out there do a good job of 
writing code and build systems. For the most part ebuild
maintainers do an equally good job of keeping ebuilds straight (we'll
ignore the exceptions, they will always be around).

I use source distros wherever I can - Gentoo and FreeBSD. So I need
clear and explicit ./configure options without automagic dependencies.
I want to tweak software builds to support the things I want to support
in a nice safe manner without being beholden to whatever a binary
distro packager thinks I should have (I'm old school in that regard and
not likely to change...)

Maybe the things I want are at odds with most of the rest of the
planet. e17 is well-behaved when it comes to being built, but sadly not
everything else out there has the same quality levels. If you use
Gentoo, you likely know how much automagic build crazy is in the world
(and why it is an evil that must be driven from the world and burnt to
a cinder)



On Tue, 07 Aug 2012 00:08:06 +0800
P Purkayastha  wrote:

> On 08/06/2012 11:39 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 23:00:33 +0800
> > P Purkayastha  wrote:
> >
> >> On 08/06/2012 04:45 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> >>> actually both gentoo ebuild users and the tweakers end up on our
> >>> doorstep asking us for help with their tweaked builds. on our
> >>> irc/email lists. though it's nice to help - we help again and
> >>> again and repeat ourselves that those options are for people who
> >>> know exactly what they are doing with the option. if u dont know
> >>> then accept defaults without a --enable or --disable in sight. :)
> >>> u do more than that then deal with your own problems - they never
> >>> do though. we end up with them. so the future is many fewer
> >>> options. u'll be patching src to change things and that tends to
> >>> be a barrier high enough to keep the tweakers out :)
> >>>
> >>
> >> That's not quite true. At least with *good* ebuilds in current
> >> Gentoo. *Good* ebuilds themselves provides configure options such
> >> that the default configure options are sane. For example look at
> >> the default options for evas:
> >>
> >> ~» eix -e evas
> >> [I] media-libs/evas
> >>Available versions:  (~)1.0.1 (~)1.1.0 (~)1.2.1
> >> (**){tbz2}[1] {X altivec bidi +bmp +cache directfb doc +eet
> >> fbcon +fontconfig gif gles +ico +jpeg mmx nls opengl +png +ppm
> >> +psd sdl sse sse3 static-libs svg tga +threads tiff xcb xpm}
> >>
> >>
> >> You see all the + things? It means that those configure options
> >> (USE flags in Gentoo terminology) are all enabled by default and
> >> the rest are disabled by default.
> >
> > Hmmm, not quite. Those are the defaults for the ebuild only.
> >
> > The user may well have enabled several of those flags system-wide in
> > make.conf, such things as mmx, sdl, sse and xcb. In which case they
> > will be enabled regardless of what the ebuild says.
> 
> 
> Yes, that's true. But only a ricer will go ahead and enable flags
> that are destructive or not useful. If you have an old enough
> machine, you won't enable sse2, but you will probably enable sse and
> mmx. That makes sense. I don't enable sse3 on my make.conf because my
> cpu doesn't support that instruction set. On the other hand I know
> that my cpu can handle sse2 instructions, so I have enabled it. So,
> now evas, mplayer, etc can all make use of this fact.
> 
> 
> > Better to look at other stuff in the ebuild, like this:
> >
> >
> >
> > src_configure() {
> >  if use X ; then
> >  if use xcb ; then
> >  ewarn "You have enabled both 'X' and
> > 'xcb', so we will use" ewarn "X as it's considered the most stable
> > for evas" fi
> >  MY_ECONF="
> >  --disable-software-xcb
> >  $(use_enable opengl gl-xlib)
> >  "
> >  elif use xcb ; then
> >  MY_ECONF="
> >  --disable-gl-xlib
> >  --enable-software-xcb
> >  $(use_enable opengl gl-xcb)
> >  "
> >  else
> >  MY_ECONF="
> >  --disable-gl-xlib
> >  --disable-software-xcb
> >  --disable-gl-xcb
> >  "
> >  fi
> 
> 
> This part is clear. If the user enables xcb (the user will have X 
> enabled anyway if he selects the desktop profile), then the ebuild
> will default to X instead of xcb. This is actually good! For
> instance, elementary doesn't work with xcb (so, no 'terminology' for
> you if you forcibly disabled X for e and efl!). If the user doesn't
> have X, t

Re: [e-users] Gentoo Overlay ebuild issue

2012-08-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 23:45:25 +0200 Alan McKinnon  said:

> Top posting as I'm not really replying to your statements directly.
> 
> I do agree with everything you said, and raster and I have had this
> good-natured argument about Gentoo before. I don't know if 
> the argument was won but it sure wasn't by me :-)
> 
> I just wanted to add that for the most part devs out there do a good job of
> writing code and build systems. For the most part ebuild maintainers do an
> equally good job of keeping ebuilds straight (we'll ignore the exceptions,
> they will always be around).
> 
> I use source distros wherever I can - Gentoo and FreeBSD. So I need
> clear and explicit ./configure options without automagic dependencies.
> I want to tweak software builds to support the things I want to support
> in a nice safe manner without being beholden to whatever a binary
> distro packager thinks I should have (I'm old school in that regard and
> not likely to change...)
> 
> Maybe the things I want are at odds with most of the rest of the
> planet. e17 is well-behaved when it comes to being built, but sadly not
> everything else out there has the same quality levels. If you use
> Gentoo, you likely know how much automagic build crazy is in the world
> (and why it is an evil that must be driven from the world and burnt to
> a cinder)

efl generally is well behaved.. except it is rather automagic. if u --enable
something that has a dependency - and the dep is not found... the feature is
disabled again (configure output tells you so at the end). some people want
configure to fail in this case. ours do not - they march on and adjust config
to match the environment they found. but you are right many of those options
make me CRINGE.

main if sections at the top:

1. xcb as an option at all. we have the support, but the problem is its not
100% complete and working. its like 98%. some key things will not work with xcb
and people end up complaining to us. we know this, and that is why its not on
by default. you don't have to --disable the xcb support - it's off by default.
2. the xcb options... kill gl - this is a fine and nasty detail where we CANNOT
have gl support without SOME minimal xlib support. everything else except for
some minimal opengl interaction is xcb, but when interfacing to glx/egl itself
we use xlib. i advise that you DONT disable gl-xlib as you lose major
functionality.
3. word and metric caching are off by default anyway - so no need to disable.
the day these things are stable and ready for use we'll enable them by default.

other use_enable flags:

4. altivec - if u are on a ppc chip.. then why NOT enable altivec? pointless to
make it an option - it's detected at runtime if u don't have the instructions.
5. bidi - why just fribdi - harfbuzz is also involved in bidi support.
6. directfb - it's off by default... for a good reason. it's not maintained
anymore.
7. doc - ummm ok, though docs are not BUILT unless you do "make doc" so i dont
see a point of swizzling this here
8. eet - this shouldnt be an option. the rest of efl wont work without it. it's
pointless making it an option as no one anywhere uses evas by itself RAW. in
fact there are no docs on how to do it and the only people who really know
how... are us (pretty much), so it's pretty pointless being an option. we were
totally anal in making it an option to avoid people patching our builds for the
rare case of some hyper-embedded environment where this may be the case (it'
also a leftover from making evas toolkit agnostic thinking maybe the gnome and
kde crowds wouldn't pull an NIH and go make their own scene graph canvases -
but as is normal they did this again, so this is the last time we try and
bother being agnostic - we're ditching the "be nice" to other toolkits mantle
becuase it costs us work/effort for no gain as they don't care... "not invented
here".
9. fbcon - why an option? it just needs some linux fb dev headers and that's it.
no other deps. its a module file that isnt even used unless called for at
runtime?
10. fontconfig ... boundary case - but frankly nothing on top of evas
(elementary, e17) runs right unless you have fontconfig and sans fonts etc. so
i'd highly discourage this ever being turned off (except for very very very
niche cases).
11. gles - fair enough
12. gif - very useful, small dep. i'd discourage this being turned off
13. ico - no deps, just a module. useful. dont turn it off
14. jpeg - small dep. essential
15. mmx - like altivec. keep it on. runtime figures it out.
16. png - like jpeg - small dep, essential
17. ppm - no dep, useful
18. psd - no dep, useful
19. sdl - fair enough
20. sse - like altivec
21. sse3 - small catch - needs more modern gcc with sse3 intrinsics support, so
ok. fair enough
22. svg - fair enough - needs esvg/enesim now... big dep chain
23. tga - no dep, useful
24. tiff - small dep, useful
25. threads - enable or disable of pthreads is a bad idea. ultra-embedded or
windows support atm needs this off, but e

Re: [e-users] Gentoo Overlay ebuild issue

2012-08-06 Thread Cedric BAIL
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Carsten Haitzler  wrote:
> 3. word and metric caching are off by default anyway - so no need to disable.
> the day these things are stable and ready for use we'll enable them by 
> default.

I removed that one as it was not maintained and didn't bring any more
performance since the change Tom did on the font system with
Evas_Text_Props. So this option are dead in svn since at least 2
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Re: [e-users] Gentoo Overlay ebuild issue

2012-08-06 Thread Wido


On Monday August 6 2012 07:38:03 Carsten Haitzler escribió:
> On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 12:18:56 +0200 Alan McKinnon  
> said:
> 
> > On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 17:45:36 +0900
> > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)  wrote:
> > 
> > > actually both gentoo ebuild users and the tweakers end up on our
> > > doorstep asking us for help with their tweaked builds. on our
> > > irc/email lists.
> > 
> > 
> > We call those people "ricers"
> > 
> > Maybe you should follow our lead on the gentoo user lists - we help out
> > ricers as and when we feel like it but mostly just tell them to put
> > everything back to stock and observe how stuff now works.
> > 
> > Myself, I've been using e17 on gentoo for 6 years or more and I've
> > used all 3 well-known overlays. Never had a problem with them yet worth
> > mentioning.
> 
> time to make this a rice free zone! :)

I like my chop suey, you insensitive clod! ( slashdot-dixit :P )

> 
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Re: [e-users] Gentoo Overlay ebuild issue

2012-08-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 7 Aug 2012 11:17:44 +0900 Cedric BAIL  said:

> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Carsten Haitzler  wrote:
> > 3. word and metric caching are off by default anyway - so no need to
> > disable. the day these things are stable and ready for use we'll enable
> > them by default.
> 
> I removed that one as it was not maintained and didn't bring any more
> performance since the change Tom did on the font system with
> Evas_Text_Props. So this option are dead in svn since at least 2
> months.

configure.ac still has the word and metric cache stuff in it tho... u should
remove that too. :)

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Re: [e-users] Gentoo Overlay ebuild issue

2012-08-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 23:31:49 -0300 Wido  said:

> 
> 
> On Monday August 6 2012 07:38:03 Carsten Haitzler escribió:
> > On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 12:18:56 +0200 Alan McKinnon 
> > said:
> > 
> > > On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 17:45:36 +0900
> > > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > actually both gentoo ebuild users and the tweakers end up on our
> > > > doorstep asking us for help with their tweaked builds. on our
> > > > irc/email lists.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > We call those people "ricers"
> > > 
> > > Maybe you should follow our lead on the gentoo user lists - we help out
> > > ricers as and when we feel like it but mostly just tell them to put
> > > everything back to stock and observe how stuff now works.
> > > 
> > > Myself, I've been using e17 on gentoo for 6 years or more and I've
> > > used all 3 well-known overlays. Never had a problem with them yet worth
> > > mentioning.
> > 
> > time to make this a rice free zone! :)
> 
> I like my chop suey, you insensitive clod! ( slashdot-dixit :P )

funroll-loops. :)

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[e-users] Gentoo update script for e17

2005-10-31 Thread Jesse Luehrs
If you are running e17 on Gentoo like me, and like using the ebuild
system for getting cvs updates, but don't like doing it manually, this
script could be useful. It updates all of the necessary e17 packages
(feel free to modify the list), and allows you to change things like
CFLAGS so that you can run e17 with different CFLAGS (like -g) without
having to remember to specify them. (Keep in mind, though, that CFLAGS
don't stack.) It also only recompiles packages that have been updated
in cvs since the last update, or, if you have genlop installed, ones
that were compiled with different CFLAGS previously. Just stick this
script in a cron job and get easy updates to e17 however often you want.

Jesse

#!/bin/bash

STATUS_LOG=/var/log/e_log
EMERGE_LOG=/var/log/e_emerge_log

export CFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium4 -pipe -g"
export FEATURES="nostrip"
export ECVS_SERVER="thinktux.net:/root"

rm -f ${STATUS_LOG} ${EMERGE_LOG}

build_package() {
emerge --oneshot $1 >> ${EMERGE_LOG}
if [[ $? -ne 0 ]]; then
echo "  Merging $1 failed. See ${EMERGE_LOG} for details." >> 
${STATUS_LOG}
# force a cvs update next time so that this will be rebuilt every time
# until it is successful (in case of manual cancel, computer
# overheating, etc.)
rm -f /usr/portage/distfiles/cvs-src/${1/*\/}/AUTHORS
rm -f /usr/portage/distfiles/cvs-src/misc/${1/*\/}/AUTHORS
rm -f /usr/portage/distfiles/cvs-src/e17/*/${1/*\/}/AUTHORS
else
echo "  Done merging $1."
fi
}

for package in \
dev-libs/eet \
dev-db/edb \
x11-libs/evas \
x11-libs/ecore \
dev-libs/embryo \
media-libs/imlib2 \
media-libs/imlib2_loaders \
media-libs/edje \
media-libs/epeg \
media-libs/epsilon \
x11-libs/esmart \
media-libs/emotion \
dev-libs/engrave \
x11-libs/ewl \
media-gfx/entice \
x11-misc/entrance \
media-video/eclair \
x11-wm/e \
app-misc/examine \
x11-misc/engage \
dev-util/e_utils \
x11-plugins/e_modules \
media-gfx/elicit \
app-misc/evidence \
; do
echo "${package}:" >> ${STATUS_LOG}

if [[ -x $( which genlop ) ]]; then
OLD_CFLAGS=$( echo -n $( genlop -i ${package} | grep CFLAGS | sed 
s/"CFLAGS=\"\(.*\)\""/"\1"/ ) )

if [[ "${CFLAGS}" != "${OLD_CFLAGS}" ]]; then
echo "  Merging ${package} due to changed CFLAGS." >> ${STATUS_LOG}
build_package ${package}
continue
fi
fi

EBUILD_PATH="/usr/portage/${package}/${package/*\/}-.ebuild"
if [[ ! -f ${EBUILD_PATH} ]]; then
echo "  ${EBUILD_PATH} is not a file!"
else
# otherwise unpack might just exit with 'WORKDIR is up to date'
ebuild ${EBUILD_PATH} clean
if ebuild ${EBUILD_PATH} unpack | sed '0,/update -dP/d; /Copying .* 
from /,$d' | grep -q .; then
echo "  Merging ${package} due to CVS update." >> ${STATUS_LOG}
build_package ${package}
else
echo "  Skipping ${package}." >> ${STATUS_LOG}
fi
fi
done


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Re: [e-users] Gentoo ebuilds for e17

2007-02-02 Thread Lucian-Mircea Patcas
You can find the information you need at
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_emerge_e17.

Lucian

On 2/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 09:00:54AM -0500, Lucian-Mircea Patcas wrote:
> > Gentooists can still build e17 using Gentoo Overlay. The following info
> > should be all that you need so you get a fresh e17 build:
> >
> > http://overlays.gentoo.org/dev/vapier/wiki/enlightenment
>
> How does one easily update E17 using the overlay? For instance, suppose
> that I have installed E17 today, and next week I want to update using
> the source from CVS. But not only the package e, but all of its
> dependencies that are distributed by the E project. Is there an easy way
> of doing that?
>
> Romildo
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Re: [e-users] Gentoo & Legacy E-conf

2004-03-03 Thread Bradley Reed
On 03/03/04 23:01:54, Linux wrote:

I do know that E-Conf is no longer supported, but I do like it.  =)

Questions:

Is there a package for Gentoo for E-Conf?  If so, what the heck is it
called.  I can't find it, tried gentoo.org and searching with emerge.
I don't know about Gentoo...

If not, where can I find the source code.  I check enlightenment.org,
but no luck there, unless I'm just not looking in the right place.
but the source is here:
http://tucows.mirror.ish.de/linux/system/adnload/31473_32883.shtml
or (watch the linewrap)
http://tucows.mirror.ish.de/linux/files/gnome/xwin/enlightenment-conf-0.15.tar.gz
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Re: [e-users] [gentoo][e17] Themes not applied

2010-08-15 Thread evadim
Cédric Tabin  писал(а) в своём письме Sun, 15 Aug  
2010 21:15:26 +0200:

> Hello guys,
>
> I just compiled the last sources of e17 (there were also a lot of  
> updates,
> ie the new xorg-server 1.7.7) and it worked. The problem is, after I
> restared e17, the theme used is always Black&White...
> I put my theme (blingbling.edj) in .e/e/themes, go on the theme
> configuration panel, select "Base Theme" and "Blingbling" and make apply,
> but the look and feel of my desktop stays with the Black&White. I tested
> with other themes : I'm unable to change the current theme (however, I  
> could
> change the wallpaper).
>
> I tried to recompile xorg drivers, revdep-rebuild and other things, but
> nothing works... Is there something special to do ?
>

Few days ago edje binary format was changed. You need to convert old .edje
files, via edje_convert, like:

find ~/.e -name '*.edj' | xargs -n 1 edje_convert

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[e-users] Gentoo ebuild for Nathan's calendar module

2005-10-22 Thread Gabriel Rossetti
I created an ebuild for Nathan's great Calendar module for e17, I'll be 
following the devel. and attatching new ebuilds as it advances, until I 
get a web site anyways. Here it is and again thank you Nathan for this 
and thank you every devel that has worked on e!


I put it in my portage overlay :

/usr/local/portage/x11-plugins/ecalendar

then simply type as root :
ebuild /usr/local/portage/x11-plugins/ecalendar/ecalendar-0.02.ebuild digest

and then install it with emerge.

Enjoy,
Gabriel
# Copyright 1999-2005 Gentoo Foundation
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
# $Header: $

inherit eutils
DESCRIPTION="This is calendar module by Nathan A. Smith for enlightenment 0.17"

HOMEPAGE="http://home.comcast.net/~nasa01/";
SRC_URI="http://home.comcast.net/~nasa01/${P}.tar.gz";
LICENSE="BSD"
SLOT="0"
KEYWORDS="~x86 ~amd64"
IUSE=""
DEPEND="x11-wm/e"
S=${WORKDIR}/${P}

src_compile() {
econf || die "econf failed"
emake || die "emake failed"
}

src_install() {
make DESTDIR=${D} install || die
}


Re: [e-users] Gentoo update script for e17

2005-10-31 Thread Jesse Luehrs
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 05:45:57 -0600
Jesse Luehrs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Edit: This line

 echo "  Done merging $1."

should be

 echo "  Done merging $1." >> ${STATUS_LOG}

Sorry(:

Jesse


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Re: [e-users] Gentoo ebuild for Nathan's calendar module

2005-10-23 Thread Alan Trick
It dies when I try to compile it. I belive this is the first error:

e_mod_main.c:35: error: syntax error before '*' token

I think your stuff was all fine so it was proably a problem w/ nathan's
code.


Gabriel Rossetti wrote:
> I created an ebuild for Nathan's great Calendar module for e17, I'll be
> following the devel. and attatching new ebuilds as it advances, until I
> get a web site anyways. Here it is and again thank you Nathan for this
> and thank you every devel that has worked on e!
> 
> I put it in my portage overlay :
> 
> /usr/local/portage/x11-plugins/ecalendar
> 
> then simply type as root :
> ebuild /usr/local/portage/x11-plugins/ecalendar/ecalendar-0.02.ebuild
> digest
> 
> and then install it with emerge.
> 
> Enjoy,
> Gabriel



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Re: [e-users] Gentoo ebuild for Nathan's calendar module

2005-10-24 Thread Gabriel Rossetti




Hi Alan,

I updated e and then tried to compile Nathan's module, and it goes
through
without any problems. How long has it been since you upgraded? Even
though
the errors you get don't really point to that being the problem, maybe
an upgrade
wonte hurt? Try deleting ecalendar-0.02.tar.gz from
/usr/portage/distfiles
and clear /var/tmp/portage/* and then try to emerge it again. I'd still
try
to update befor, that way we know that you're working with (almost) the
same
version of e as we are. What about Gentoo, has it been updated lately?
Maybe 
try doing that if all else fails.

Gabriel

Alan Trick wrote:

  It dies when I try to compile it. I belive this is the first error:

e_mod_main.c:35: error: syntax error before '*' token

I think your stuff was all fine so it was proably a problem w/ nathan's
code.


Gabriel Rossetti wrote:
  
  
I created an ebuild for Nathan's great Calendar module for e17, I'll be
following the devel. and attatching new ebuilds as it advances, until I
get a web site anyways. Here it is and again thank you Nathan for this
and thank you every devel that has worked on e!

I put it in my portage overlay :

/usr/local/portage/x11-plugins/ecalendar

then simply type as root :
ebuild /usr/local/portage/x11-plugins/ecalendar/ecalendar-0.02.ebuild
digest

and then install it with emerge.

Enjoy,
Gabriel

  
  


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Re: [e-users] Gentoo ebuild for Nathan's calendar module

2005-10-24 Thread pixel
I have the same problem here.

On 10/24/05, Alan Trick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It dies when I try to compile it. I belive this is the first error:
>
> e_mod_main.c:35: error: syntax error before '*' token
>
> I think your stuff was all fine so it was proably a problem w/ nathan's
> code.
>
>
> Gabriel Rossetti wrote:
> > I created an ebuild for Nathan's great Calendar module for e17, I'll be
> > following the devel. and attatching new ebuilds as it advances, until I
> > get a web site anyways. Here it is and again thank you Nathan for this
> > and thank you every devel that has worked on e!
> >
> > I put it in my portage overlay :
> >
> > /usr/local/portage/x11-plugins/ecalendar
> >
> > then simply type as root :
> > ebuild /usr/local/portage/x11-plugins/ecalendar/ecalendar-0.02.ebuild
> > digest
> >
> > and then install it with emerge.
> >
> > Enjoy,
> > Gabriel
>
>
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Re: [e-users] Gentoo ebuild for Nathan's calendar module

2005-10-24 Thread Alan Trick
Interesting, it works fine now. Btw, I con't really get the module to do
anything. besids display the default thing. Is is supposed to be able to?


Gabriel Rossetti wrote:
> Hi Alan,
> 
> I updated e and then tried to compile Nathan's module, and it goes through
> without any problems. How long has it been since you upgraded? Even though
> the errors you get don't really point to that being the problem, maybe
> an upgrade
> wonte hurt? Try deleting ecalendar-0.02.tar.gz from /usr/portage/distfiles
> and clear /var/tmp/portage/* and then try to emerge it again. I'd still try
> to update befor, that way we know that you're working with (almost) the same
> version of e as we are. What about Gentoo, has it been updated lately?
> Maybe
> try doing that if all else fails.
> 
> Gabriel
> 
> Alan Trick wrote:
> 
>>It dies when I try to compile it. I belive this is the first error:
>>
>>e_mod_main.c:35: error: syntax error before '*' token
>>
>>I think your stuff was all fine so it was proably a problem w/ nathan's
>>code.
>>
>>
>>Gabriel Rossetti wrote:
>>  
>>
>>>I created an ebuild for Nathan's great Calendar module for e17, I'll be
>>>following the devel. and attatching new ebuilds as it advances, until I
>>>get a web site anyways. Here it is and again thank you Nathan for this
>>>and thank you every devel that has worked on e!
>>>
>>>I put it in my portage overlay :
>>>
>>>/usr/local/portage/x11-plugins/ecalendar
>>>
>>>then simply type as root :
>>>ebuild /usr/local/portage/x11-plugins/ecalendar/ecalendar-0.02.ebuild
>>>digest
>>>
>>>and then install it with emerge.
>>>
>>>Enjoy,
>>>Gabriel
>>>


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