Re: [e-users] entrance problems
On Wed, 19 May 2004 10:31:54 +0200 Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: (B (Bpretty simple: you didnt build eet before you built evas and thus there's no eet (Bsupport in evas! :) build and install eet then rebuild and re-install evas. (Bcheck that it enables eet support (configure lets you know what it has and (Bhasn't detected) (B (B Last night i have compiled and installed from cvs all the libs from the e17 (B module as i have read in the cvsnotes. (B (B All of them compiled without problems, so i have compiled/installed entrance (B too. I have used entrance some time ago and works without problem, (B butyesterday, all I could get is this: (B (B http://code.e-shell.org/entrance_fail.jpg (B (B Trying to find a solution, someone in #e (freenode) points me to evas compiled (B without png support, but some test on evas worked: (B (B http://code.e-shell.org/evas_test.jpg (B (B I have try to see if the default theme was correctly installed, using edje: (B (B http://code.e-shell.org/edje_view.jpg (B (B But i dunno if that is what it must be... (B (B (B Perhaps someone on this list have had a similar problem before? (B (B -- (B (B "Perceive that which cannot be seen with the eye." - Miyamoto Musashi (B - (B Francisco de Borja L_pez R_o ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (B C_digo23 - Secure Network Solutions (B http://www.codigo23.net / http://www.e-shell.org (B (B (B --- (B This SF.Net email is sponsored by: SourceForge.net Broadband (B Sign-up now for SourceForge Broadband and get the fastest (B 6.0/768 connection for only $19.95/mo for the first 3 months! (B http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=2562alloc_id=6184op=click (B ___ (B enlightenment-users mailing list (B [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users (B (B (B (B-- (B- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- (BThe Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] $B7'<*(B - $Bhttp://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149alloc_id=8166op=click (B___ (Benlightenment-users mailing list (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] entrance problems
Last night i have compiled and installed from cvs all the libs from the e17 module as i have read in the cvsnotes. All of them compiled without problems, so i have compiled/installed entrance too. I have used entrance some time ago and works without problem, butyesterday, all I could get is this: http://code.e-shell.org/entrance_fail.jpg Trying to find a solution, someone in #e (freenode) points me to evas compiled without png support, but some test on evas worked: http://code.e-shell.org/evas_test.jpg I have try to see if the default theme was correctly installed, using edje: http://code.e-shell.org/edje_view.jpg But i dunno if that is what it must be... Perhaps someone on this list have had a similar problem before? -- Perceive that which cannot be seen with the eye. - Miyamoto Musashi - Francisco de Borja L_pez R_o ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) C_digo23 - Secure Network Solutions http://www.codigo23.net / http://www.e-shell.org --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: SourceForge.net Broadband Sign-up now for SourceForge Broadband and get the fastest 6.0/768 connection for only $19.95/mo for the first 3 months! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=2562alloc_id=6184op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] entrance problems
It works now: http://code.e-shell.org/entrance_ok.jpg Ok, the problem was that evas was compiled without edb and eet support (forgot to export CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/e17). Thnx for your tips guys! On Wed, 19 May 2004 14:59:42 +0200 Morten Nilsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kai Edinger wrote: On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 10:31:54AM +0200, Wu wrote: http://code.e-shell.org/entrance_fail.jpg Perhaps someone on this list have had a similar problem before? Yes, this Problem seems to me. I thing it is a Problem with edje and/or esmart. esmart has been moved or better to say copied in cvs from e17/proto/esmart to /e17/lib/esmart. Check the Version of esmart. /e17/lib/esmart should work. I've seen this too, and I fixed it with disabling framebuffer support in a couple of the requisite libs... -- Dr. P -- Perceive that which cannot be seen with the eye. - Miyamoto Musashi - Francisco de Borja L_pez R_o ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) C_digo23 - Secure Network Solutions http://www.codigo23.net / http://www.e-shell.org --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: SourceForge.net Broadband Sign-up now for SourceForge Broadband and get the fastest 6.0/768 connection for only $19.95/mo for the first 3 months! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=2562alloc_id=6184op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] entrance problems
On Wed, 19 May 2004 14:59:42 +0200 Morten Nilsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: (B (B Kai Edinger wrote: (B On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 10:31:54AM +0200, Wu wrote: (B http://code.e-shell.org/entrance_fail.jpg (B Perhaps someone on this list have had a similar problem before? (B (B Yes, this Problem seems to me. I thing it is a Problem with (B edje and/or esmart. esmart has been moved or better to say (B copied in cvs from e17/proto/esmart to /e17/lib/esmart. Check (B the Version of esmart. /e17/lib/esmart should work. (B (B I've seen this too, and I fixed it with disabling framebuffer support in (B a couple of the requisite libs... (B (Bi doubt it was the fb disabling that fixed anything. the fact u recompiled evas (B(then ecore) after having installed eet meant evas turned on eet support and (Bthus could load the images. (B (B-- (B- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- (BThe Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] $B7'<*(B - $Bhttp://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149alloc_id=8166op=click (B___ (Benlightenment-users mailing list (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] entrance problems
On Wed, 19 May 2004 18:53:16 +0200 Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: (B (B (B It works now: (B (B http://code.e-shell.org/entrance_ok.jpg (B (B Ok, the problem was that evas was compiled without edb and eet support (forgot (B to export CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/e17). (B (Byou dont need edb support for this to work. just eet support :) (B (B Thnx for your tips guys! (B (B (B On Wed, 19 May 2004 14:59:42 +0200 (B Morten Nilsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (B (B Kai Edinger wrote: (B On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 10:31:54AM +0200, Wu wrote: (B http://code.e-shell.org/entrance_fail.jpg (B Perhaps someone on this list have had a similar problem before? (B (B Yes, this Problem seems to me. I thing it is a Problem with (B edje and/or esmart. esmart has been moved or better to say (B copied in cvs from e17/proto/esmart to /e17/lib/esmart. Check (B the Version of esmart. /e17/lib/esmart should work. (B (B I've seen this too, and I fixed it with disabling framebuffer support in (B a couple of the requisite libs... (B (B -- (B Dr. P (B (B (B (B -- (B (B "Perceive that which cannot be seen with the eye." - Miyamoto Musashi (B - (B Francisco de Borja L_pez R_o ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (B C_digo23 - Secure Network Solutions (B http://www.codigo23.net / http://www.e-shell.org (B (B (B --- (B This SF.Net email is sponsored by: SourceForge.net Broadband (B Sign-up now for SourceForge Broadband and get the fastest (B 6.0/768 connection for only $19.95/mo for the first 3 months! (B http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=2562alloc_id=6184op=click (B ___ (B enlightenment-users mailing list (B [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users (B (B (B (B-- (B- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- (BThe Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] $B7'<*(B - $Bhttp://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149alloc_id=8166op=click (B___ (Benlightenment-users mailing list (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: Fwd: [Fwd: Re: (fwd) Re: Re: [e-users] Entrance problems]
As for the intent of my email, well, it really wasnt aimed at anyone in particular. Its just we always say we dont support this... we dont support that. And you guys wonder why people wont use our software? First off, people DO use our software. Stating otherwise is ridiculous because it's just not true. Secondly, we don't WANT people using Entrance and e17 and other things that are under heavy and active development. That's the whole freaking point! People shouldn't use it. If you can't write a patch, you shouldn't be using Entrance. And if you can, you should be able to solve problems yourself. It's not rude, or harsh, or unfair, or any of the things people typically whine about. It's a test. A rite of passage, if you will. If you can make it work on your own, you have proven that you have the ability to help, and that's great. We encourage those people to do so, as evidenced by the responses raster gave to shorne's patches. If, however, you cannot get it to work on your own, you've failed the test. You don't appear to have the ability (or determination, or patience, or any of the other things required to deal with this stuff) to help, so we don't have time to babysit you. Thus, you have two options: (1) Give up, or (2) Find a non-developer who's willing to help you out. People like Ben and Phil are often willing to help new users get things working, and that's a great help to the developers (as much as it annoys me sometimes...*grin*) because it saves them time that they can then spend on coding (or...*cough*...responding to rude e-mails...). If something has a lot of potential and its main developers dont want to improve it or let others help, then at the end of the day thats totally up to them. Anyone who believes that JeopardE doesn't want to improve Entrance or let others help is smoking something cheap. But dont you think everyone will lose a lot if this piece of code that had a lot of potential didnt want to be developed and pursued? See above. I think this would add to my story http://www.bash.org/?152037 If someone falls for that, that person is a sucker. Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] n + 1, Inc., http://www.nplus1.net/ Author, Eterm (www.eterm.org) --- Time is the fire in which we burn. -- Dr. Tolian Soren (Malcolm McDowell), Star Trek: Generations --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The SF.net Donation Program. Do you like what SourceForge.net is doing for the Open Source Community? Make a contribution, and help us add new features and functionality. Click here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: (fwd) Re: Re: [e-users] Entrance problems
On Wednesday, 22 October 2003, at 13:47:39 (-0400), Hall Stevenson wrote: To some extent, I have to agree with Hisham. Your reply was pretty lame Hallvar offered to *help* you and all you said was that it's ALPHA software, you're on your own, and so on. And your point would be...? Offering to help is all well and good, but for things that are under active hard-core development, the only really helpful people are the ones who can write patches. There's a difference between offering to help *find* the bug and offering to help *fix* the bug. Why do you have it available then ?? For people to use or for people to help you code it ?? CVS is a DEVELOPERS tool, not an end-user tool. So obviously the answer to your question is the latter, not the former. Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] n + 1, Inc., http://www.nplus1.net/ Author, Eterm (www.eterm.org) --- I know that through it all the hardest part of love is letting go, But there's a greater Love that holds us. -- Michael W. Smith, Pray for Me --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The SF.net Donation Program. Do you like what SourceForge.net is doing for the Open Source Community? Make a contribution, and help us add new features and functionality. Click here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
(fwd) Re: Re: [e-users] Entrance problems
Well friends, An excellent example of how not to piss of a developer. Hope you enjoy the insults as much as I did. :) Suffice it to say that I won't bother to answer his questions now, or ever. -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. - Proverbs 4:7 ---BeginMessage--- This means that if you can't get it to work, or it blows up your hard drive in the process, you're on your own. Instead of giving this gay response, either try to get it working and or shut up. So its at alpha stage, big deal. Doesnt mean we cant try to help. What we need is people that contribute positively, not people who go man appname or we dont support alpha. My 0.01$. From: Ibukun Olumuyiwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/10/22 Wed AM 01:58:28 GMT+03:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [e-users] Entrance problems On Tue 21 Oct 2003, Hallvar Helleseth wrote: Hi! Great work on entrance and edje! But I am having some difficulties with entrance.. I have correct path to Xsession, pam is enabled and /etc/pam.d/xdm is in place (looking at the code it seems that this is the pam file being used, contrary to the docs I believe). My distro is Debian unstable. My problem is that nomatter what entrace claims my password is incorrect. My password doesnt contain any special characters apart from a-z,a-Z,0-9. As a quick hack I modified the code to not check my password at all. Thats when a different problem arose. entrance wouldnt start any session, just exit. syslog only shows Starting X server. Starting Entrance. Display and Display manager are shutting down when I had modifed code to enable me to log in I also got The session ended normally thats it.. no messages from PAM either (dont know if there should be though) I also tried without pam (from config file) and I also tried with /etc/pam.d/entrance (copied from gdm and from entrance provided one) I am quite baffeled at why it doesnt work (gdm works btw). Id love to help out finding the bug! I really enjoy the design of entrance (thanks to edje mostly :) best regards Hallvar Helleseth Entrance is still ALPHA software. This means that if you can't get it to work, or it blows up your hard drive in the process, you're on your own. :) It may or may not work for you...if you are able to make it work properly, then we'd love to hear how you did it. Cheers, -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. - Proverbs 4:7 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by OSDN developer relations Here's your chance to show off your extensive product knowledge We want to know what you know. Tell us and you have a chance to win $100 http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?HRPT1X3RYQNC5V4MLNSV3E54 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users ---End Message---
Re: (fwd) Re: Re: [e-users] Entrance problems
At 11:41 AM 10/22/2003, Ibukun Olumuyiwa wrote: An excellent example of how not to piss of a developer. Hope you enjoy the insults as much as I did. :) Suffice it to say that I won't bother to answer his questions now, or ever. To some extent, I have to agree with Hisham. Your reply was pretty lame Hallvar offered to *help* you and all you said was that it's ALPHA software, you're on your own, and so on. Why do you have it available then ?? For people to use or for people to help you code it ?? Again, Hallvar offered to help you and you blew him off. Regards Hall --- This SF.net email is sponsored by OSDN developer relations Here's your chance to show off your extensive product knowledge We want to know what you know. Tell us and you have a chance to win $100 http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?HRPT1X3RYQNC5V4MLNSV3E54 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[E-devel] Re: (fwd) Re: Re: [e-users] Entrance problems
On Wed 22 Oct 2003, Hall Stevenson wrote: At 11:41 AM 10/22/2003, Ibukun Olumuyiwa wrote: An excellent example of how not to piss of a developer. Hope you enjoy the insults as much as I did. :) Suffice it to say that I won't bother to answer his questions now, or ever. To some extent, I have to agree with Hisham. Your reply was pretty lame Hallvar offered to *help* you and all you said was that it's ALPHA software, you're on your own, and so on. Why do you have it available then ?? For people to use or for people to help you code it ?? Again, Hallvar offered to help you and you blew him off. First off, go back and read my repliy and you'll notice I put a smiley at the end of that statement so that you would realize it was a lighthearted comment -- I guess you'd be humor challenged not to realize that blow up your hard drive was a joke. Secondly, a lot of the session handling code is still under development and as a matter of fact we're still discussing the best way to implement them, so don't start to cry a river if I refuse to attend to a particular user's problems at this point. And don't send me a nastygram just because I didn't either. And one more thing -- if you wish to assist the development effort, send messages to enlightenment-devel or mail me privately. Don't expect developers to discuss development issues on the e-users list: entrance is NOT for regular users and has not been released as such. It is in CVS so that developers and testers can access it, as are the rest of the EFL modules. -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. - Proverbs 4:7 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by OSDN developer relations Here's your chance to show off your extensive product knowledge We want to know what you know. Tell us and you have a chance to win $100 http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?HRPT1X3RYQNC5V4MLNSV3E54 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by OSDN developer relations Here's your chance to show off your extensive product knowledge We want to know what you know. Tell us and you have a chance to win $100 http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?HRPT1X3RYQNC5V4MLNSV3E54 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Fwd: [Fwd: Re: (fwd) Re: Re: [e-users] Entrance problems]
I was asked to forward this message by Hisham ---BeginMessage--- Hi dude, Can you plz send this to the list? It bounced my email because I dont have access to the account which I usually send from. Thanks. Hisham. -Forwarded Message- From: Hisham Mardam Bey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (fwd) Re: Re: [e-users] Entrance problems Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 02:03:04 +0300 People, the last thing I want here is a flame war. Here's my reply to this entire situation: Ibukun Olumuyiwa: Dude, I never meant to flame you personally. I intended this to be a list message. I apologize for any inconvenienve my email could have caused. As for the intent of my email, well, it really wasnt aimed at anyone in particular. Its just we always say we dont support this... we dont support that. And you guys wonder why people wont use our software? If something has a lot of potential and its main developers dont want to improve it or let others help, then at the end of the day thats totally up to them. But dont you think everyone will lose a lot if this piece of code that had a lot of potential didnt want to be developed and pursued? We are all here because we love and support E. We need to work together. Anyhows, Ibukun, I apologize for the misunderstanding, but I always wish that us unix folk would actually help instead of giving the usual jerk response of go look it up yourself or go away, I dont wanna help you. I think this would add to my story http://www.bash.org/?152037 Regards, Hisham. On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 20:47, Hall Stevenson wrote: At 11:41 AM 10/22/2003, Ibukun Olumuyiwa wrote: An excellent example of how not to piss of a developer. Hope you enjoy the insults as much as I did. :) Suffice it to say that I won't bother to answer his questions now, or ever. To some extent, I have to agree with Hisham. Your reply was pretty lame Hallvar offered to *help* you and all you said was that it's ALPHA software, you're on your own, and so on. Why do you have it available then ?? For people to use or for people to help you code it ?? Again, Hallvar offered to help you and you blew him off. Regards Hall --- This SF.net email is sponsored by OSDN developer relations Here's your chance to show off your extensive product knowledge We want to know what you know. Tell us and you have a chance to win $100 http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?HRPT1X3RYQNC5V4MLNSV3E54 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Hisham Mardam Bey http://hisham.cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: +9613609386 Quote: Codito Ergo Sum signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ---End Message---
[e-users] Entrance problems
Hi! Great work on entrance and edje! But I am having some difficulties with entrance.. I have correct path to Xsession, pam is enabled and /etc/pam.d/xdm is in place (looking at the code it seems that this is the pam file being used, contrary to the docs I believe). My distro is Debian unstable. My problem is that nomatter what entrace claims my password is incorrect. My password doesnt contain any special characters apart from a-z,a-Z,0-9. As a quick hack I modified the code to not check my password at all. Thats when a different problem arose. entrance wouldnt start any session, just exit. syslog only shows Starting X server. Starting Entrance. Display and Display manager are shutting down when I had modifed code to enable me to log in I also got The session ended normally thats it.. no messages from PAM either (dont know if there should be though) I also tried without pam (from config file) and I also tried with /etc/pam.d/entrance (copied from gdm and from entrance provided one) I am quite baffeled at why it doesnt work (gdm works btw). Id love to help out finding the bug! I really enjoy the design of entrance (thanks to edje mostly :) best regards Hallvar Helleseth --- This SF.net email is sponsored by OSDN developer relations Here's your chance to show off your extensive product knowledge We want to know what you know. Tell us and you have a chance to win $100 http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?HRPT1X3RYQNC5V4MLNSV3E54 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Entrance problems
On Tue 21 Oct 2003, Hallvar Helleseth wrote: Hi! Great work on entrance and edje! But I am having some difficulties with entrance.. I have correct path to Xsession, pam is enabled and /etc/pam.d/xdm is in place (looking at the code it seems that this is the pam file being used, contrary to the docs I believe). My distro is Debian unstable. My problem is that nomatter what entrace claims my password is incorrect. My password doesnt contain any special characters apart from a-z,a-Z,0-9. As a quick hack I modified the code to not check my password at all. Thats when a different problem arose. entrance wouldnt start any session, just exit. syslog only shows Starting X server. Starting Entrance. Display and Display manager are shutting down when I had modifed code to enable me to log in I also got The session ended normally thats it.. no messages from PAM either (dont know if there should be though) I also tried without pam (from config file) and I also tried with /etc/pam.d/entrance (copied from gdm and from entrance provided one) I am quite baffeled at why it doesnt work (gdm works btw). Id love to help out finding the bug! I really enjoy the design of entrance (thanks to edje mostly :) best regards Hallvar Helleseth Entrance is still ALPHA software. This means that if you can't get it to work, or it blows up your hard drive in the process, you're on your own. :) It may or may not work for you...if you are able to make it work properly, then we'd love to hear how you did it. Cheers, -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. - Proverbs 4:7 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by OSDN developer relations Here's your chance to show off your extensive product knowledge We want to know what you know. Tell us and you have a chance to win $100 http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?HRPT1X3RYQNC5V4MLNSV3E54 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
