Re: [e-users] Mixer (probably) not fully functional
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Dnia 2022-06-14, o godz. 16:29:51 Le Barjack napisał(a): > Hi, > I am also back to gentoo and try to stick to stable package for E, > efl and all. (alsa-lib 1.2.6.1, pulseaudio 16.0 and kernel 5.15.41) > > I do not encounter the 1) & 3) (but I don't have any bluetooth > speaker to test 2). > > The volume bar on the window only appears if there is playback on the > application. > > Regards, > -- > François Great! Could you please tell me what USE flags you have enabled on: 1) enlightenment 2) efl 3) pulseaudio 4) alsa That would be much help for me. Thanks! - -- xWK -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iHUEAREIAB0WIQTD0rOlRXTVQVPxHd4dqSXVhOqGqwUCYqjLXQAKCRAdqSXVhOqG q7akAQCTzeKZ55x27wnL+0ulessej7GjQA3K8oJg+RQ9zR7FPQD/ZmFIvoZ3K/Bh qlRzgvOJZcgECIbpq3n1dfs2FSgvEhU= =BhOc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Mixer (probably) not fully functional
Le 14/06/2022 à 11:10, w...@op.pl a écrit : Hello everyone! I have a problem with my Enlightenment's Mixer. Last time I've been using Enlightenment it was under Gentoo with packages from testing repository (so the newer ones) enabled. Back then everything was fine. After some time I came back to Gentoo but with only stable packages enabled by default. I checked - it doesn't change anything in Enlightenment of EFL themselves. I am however experiencing lacking some functionality, i.e.: 1) Mixer won't allow me to set volume higher than 100% as it used to 2) There's no more option to change audio output in Mixer when connecting to bluetooth speaker 3) There used to be those fancy and useful volume bars on title bar of every playing window... they're gone After some digging I guess it's some problem with integration between PulseAudio and EFL. Pavucontrol works as it should, everything's in place. So I guess PulseAudio itself is OK. Does anyone have any ideas what to do? Or maybe it's just a matter of older versions of some packages (alsa-lib 1.2.6.1 instead of 1.2.7, and linux kernel 5.15.41)? Hi, I am also back to gentoo and try to stick to stable package for E, efl and all. (alsa-lib 1.2.6.1, pulseaudio 16.0 and kernel 5.15.41) I do not encounter the 1) & 3) (but I don't have any bluetooth speaker to test 2). The volume bar on the window only appears if there is playback on the application. Regards, -- François ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Mixer (probably) not fully functional
On Tue, 14 Jun 2022 11:10:06 +0200 "w...@op.pl" said: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Hello everyone! > > I have a problem with my Enlightenment's Mixer. Last time I've been > using Enlightenment it was under Gentoo with packages from testing > repository (so the newer ones) enabled. Back then everything was fine. > > After some time I came back to Gentoo but with only stable packages > enabled by default. I checked - it doesn't change anything in > Enlightenment of EFL themselves. I am however experiencing lacking some > functionality, i.e.: > > 1) Mixer won't allow me to set volume higher than 100% as it > used to > > 2) There's no more option to change audio output in Mixer when > connecting to bluetooth speaker > > 3) There used to be those fancy and useful volume bars on title > bar of every playing window... they're gone > > After some digging I guess it's some problem with integration between > PulseAudio and EFL. Pavucontrol works as it should, everything's in > place. So I guess PulseAudio itself is OK. > Does anyone have any ideas what to do? Or maybe it's just a matter of > older versions of some packages (alsa-lib 1.2.6.1 instead of 1.2.7, and > linux kernel 5.15.41)? all e does is use libpulse. like pavucontrol. it all works perfectly on all my arch boxes with pulseaudio (pulse 15.0). mixer here happily lists bt audio devices (if they are connected - you need to ensure they connect - look at bluez popup to see). volume controls are in my window titles. mixer sliders go up to 150 for me here and actually work if you drag them beyond 100 too (they get louder). i don't know... same efl - same e... works and keeps working. arch linux and pulseaudio 15.0 here, kernel 5.17, etc. etc. > - -- > xWK > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > iHUEAREIAB0WIQTD0rOlRXTVQVPxHd4dqSXVhOqGqwUCYqhQbgAKCRAdqSXVhOqG > q0mbAP0Vg32iKVbxKY4FFh/3yOWMkWv941fRMbl83YoMuYWZCgEAnFq5p+RA9684 > q/fR3BIJ7re+QRawuASQIlu9J0rBAI4= > =u4jh > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Mixer (probably) not fully functional
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hello everyone! I have a problem with my Enlightenment's Mixer. Last time I've been using Enlightenment it was under Gentoo with packages from testing repository (so the newer ones) enabled. Back then everything was fine. After some time I came back to Gentoo but with only stable packages enabled by default. I checked - it doesn't change anything in Enlightenment of EFL themselves. I am however experiencing lacking some functionality, i.e.: 1) Mixer won't allow me to set volume higher than 100% as it used to 2) There's no more option to change audio output in Mixer when connecting to bluetooth speaker 3) There used to be those fancy and useful volume bars on title bar of every playing window... they're gone After some digging I guess it's some problem with integration between PulseAudio and EFL. Pavucontrol works as it should, everything's in place. So I guess PulseAudio itself is OK. Does anyone have any ideas what to do? Or maybe it's just a matter of older versions of some packages (alsa-lib 1.2.6.1 instead of 1.2.7, and linux kernel 5.15.41)? - -- xWK -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iHUEAREIAB0WIQTD0rOlRXTVQVPxHd4dqSXVhOqGqwUCYqhQbgAKCRAdqSXVhOqG q0mbAP0Vg32iKVbxKY4FFh/3yOWMkWv941fRMbl83YoMuYWZCgEAnFq5p+RA9684 q/fR3BIJ7re+QRawuASQIlu9J0rBAI4= =u4jh -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] mixer ?
On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 19:24:21 -0500 mh wrote: > On 12/23/2014 06:58 PM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 10:01:25 +1000 David Seikel > > said: > > > >> On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 08:16:44 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > >> wrote: > >> > >>> On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 08:55:38 +1000 David Seikel > >>> said: > >>> > BTW John, DAC stands for Digital to Analogue Converter. Any > computer sound has to go through a DAC to produce analogue sound. > Your ears are analogue, and can't accept a digital signal. So > DACs aren't anything special. Motherboard sound uses DACs, as > does any USB sound device. > > On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 17:25:14 -0500 mh > wrote: > > > Looks like a nice player :) I think the optical out is a digital > > signal. As far as the difference in sound with my external dac, > > to be honest it's hard to say. I'd like to think that it would > > sound better than the dac included on the computer main board. I > > think it sounds better, but to say for sure you'd need to do > > some A-B-X testing I suppose. I'm happy with the setup though. I > > really needed the O2 amp to drive the Beyer headphones, even > > though they are 250 ohm, not the 600 ohm. > Typical sound on motherboards doesn't shield the analogue side of > things from all the electrical noise inside the computer. So > it's usual to hear a variety of horrid little sounds, clicks, > buzzes, pops, if you listen carefully to typical motherboard > sound. Typical USB based sound is outside of the computer, and > thus tend to be shielded enough to not pick up all that noise. > Try listening to silence or quiet tracks with headphones. YMMV > >>> maybe i have just gotten lucky machine after machine year after > >>> year... or you have just been unlucky... but i have never had > >>> unshielded analogue lines on any pc or laptop i have had. never > >>> heard a buzz or clicks, bings, beeps, clicks, ticks or anything. > >>> indeed you are right - unshielded analogue lines will indeed > >>> inherit interference from general electric signals from the > >>> motherboard - but i've never heard it... > >> The interference on my desktop motherboards built in sound was > >> only an issue when I got my fancy RIG mixer and headphones. It's > >> still fine on the desktop speakers unless I crank it up, but for > >> headphone usage I use USB audio. > > my speakers are not your regular shitty "desktop speakers"". and i > > spend good money on decent headphones too - analogue plugs on my > > machines. never heard the interference you speak of. > > > >> The interference on a certain model of embedded board I've been > >> using is so horrible that my client has exchanged strong words > >> with the manufacturer. I put some workarounds into the software, > >> but it makes loud clicks and pops while booting up, something I > >> can't work around. The previous model we used worked fine, but > >> they don't sell that one any more. > > aaah but it's an embedded board - embedded is there to cut cost > > and/or size and power and thus... corners are cut invariably. :) > > There you go ;) The only remaining problem I have with the external > digital to analogue converter, amplifier, and audio signal to sound > wave converter ( headphones ) is that some music recordings really > sound horrible! There's no accounting for taste, not something we can work around with EFL. B-) > >> Built in sound on motherboards is like built in graphics on > >> motherboards, half the time it's crap, but good enough for most > >> people. > >> > >>> i HAVE heard it from a phone if near enough to the headphone or > >>> speaker cables in the past. though that seems to have stopped > >>> these days of glorious lte-a :) > >> The frequencies of lots of stuff is moving up. Even low frequency > >> harmonics are moving out of the audio range, making this sort of > >> interference less of a problem as the years go by. > >> > > I also have the eMixer working, sitting on my shelf :) It works > > perfectly! I haven't tried any of the other settings, just using > > the master channel. > > > > > > On 12/23/2014 03:23 PM, John Holland wrote: > >> I have a fiio X3 but I've only used it as a portable music > >> player. It says it can be a dac though. Is an optical audio > >> signal digital data or analog? Do you perceive the difference > >> in sound from using the dac? > >> > >> Also you know I was able to get the enlightenment mixer to work > >> with Alsa by installing libasound2-dev before compiling e. > >> > >> On December 23, 2014 3:10:57 PM EST, mh > >> wrote: > >>> I plug the dac into the front usb port, then dac output into > >>> the amp. To > >>> play cds or music files, I usually use Audacious. Connect the > >>> dac first, > >>> then start Audacious. Then, set Audacious pcm device setting
Re: [e-users] mixer ?
On 12/23/2014 06:58 PM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 10:01:25 +1000 David Seikel said: > >> On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 08:16:44 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) >> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 08:55:38 +1000 David Seikel >>> said: >>> BTW John, DAC stands for Digital to Analogue Converter. Any computer sound has to go through a DAC to produce analogue sound. Your ears are analogue, and can't accept a digital signal. So DACs aren't anything special. Motherboard sound uses DACs, as does any USB sound device. On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 17:25:14 -0500 mh wrote: > Looks like a nice player :) I think the optical out is a digital > signal. As far as the difference in sound with my external dac, > to be honest it's hard to say. I'd like to think that it would > sound better than the dac included on the computer main board. I > think it sounds better, but to say for sure you'd need to do some > A-B-X testing I suppose. I'm happy with the setup though. I > really needed the O2 amp to drive the Beyer headphones, even > though they are 250 ohm, not the 600 ohm. Typical sound on motherboards doesn't shield the analogue side of things from all the electrical noise inside the computer. So it's usual to hear a variety of horrid little sounds, clicks, buzzes, pops, if you listen carefully to typical motherboard sound. Typical USB based sound is outside of the computer, and thus tend to be shielded enough to not pick up all that noise. Try listening to silence or quiet tracks with headphones. YMMV >>> maybe i have just gotten lucky machine after machine year after >>> year... or you have just been unlucky... but i have never had >>> unshielded analogue lines on any pc or laptop i have had. never heard >>> a buzz or clicks, bings, beeps, clicks, ticks or anything. indeed you >>> are right - unshielded analogue lines will indeed inherit >>> interference from general electric signals from the motherboard - but >>> i've never heard it... >> The interference on my desktop motherboards built in sound was only an >> issue when I got my fancy RIG mixer and headphones. It's still fine on >> the desktop speakers unless I crank it up, but for headphone usage I use >> USB audio. > my speakers are not your regular shitty "desktop speakers"". and i spend good > money on decent headphones too - analogue plugs on my machines. never heard > the > interference you speak of. > >> The interference on a certain model of embedded board I've been using >> is so horrible that my client has exchanged strong words with the >> manufacturer. I put some workarounds into the software, but it makes >> loud clicks and pops while booting up, something I can't work around. >> The previous model we used worked fine, but they don't sell that one >> any more. > aaah but it's an embedded board - embedded is there to cut cost and/or size > and > power and thus... corners are cut invariably. :) There you go ;) The only remaining problem I have with the external digital to analogue converter, amplifier, and audio signal to sound wave converter ( headphones ) is that some music recordings really sound horrible! > >> Built in sound on motherboards is like built in graphics on >> motherboards, half the time it's crap, but good enough for most people. >> >>> i HAVE heard it from a phone if near enough to the headphone or >>> speaker cables in the past. though that seems to have stopped these >>> days of glorious lte-a :) >> The frequencies of lots of stuff is moving up. Even low frequency >> harmonics are moving out of the audio range, making this sort of >> interference less of a problem as the years go by. >> > I also have the eMixer working, sitting on my shelf :) It works > perfectly! I haven't tried any of the other settings, just using > the master channel. > > > On 12/23/2014 03:23 PM, John Holland wrote: >> I have a fiio X3 but I've only used it as a portable music >> player. It says it can be a dac though. Is an optical audio >> signal digital data or analog? Do you perceive the difference >> in sound from using the dac? >> >> Also you know I was able to get the enlightenment mixer to work >> with Alsa by installing libasound2-dev before compiling e. >> >> On December 23, 2014 3:10:57 PM EST, mh >> wrote: >>> I plug the dac into the front usb port, then dac output into >>> the amp. To >>> play cds or music files, I usually use Audacious. Connect the >>> dac first, >>> then start Audacious. Then, set Audacious pcm device setting >>> for the dac, use the default mixer device. >>> >>> For system audio, like Firefox, youtube etc, there is the >>> /etc/asound.conf file. In it there are two lines that identify >>> the default audio card to use. Normal system default is 0, my >>> dac is 3: >>> >>> defaults.ctl.ca
Re: [e-users] mixer ?
On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 08:54:29 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 18:46:08 -0500 John Holland > said: > > > This led to my immediately stopping being productive and > > investigating further. I have got my X3 working as a USB DAC under > > Windows and Linux, it takes a little tweaking to switch from X3 > > back to built in so its hard to do a good A/B comparison. But I > > like the idea of it and its cool that it works out of the box with > > Linux. > > > > I've been using ALSA lately as an act of protest over systemd as > > pulseaudio is by the systemd guy - also lots of audio people seem to > > have issues with pulseaudio. I was surprised that alsa is actually > > pretty good in terms of driving HDMI, etc. As I mentioned I have > > added alsa support to my .debs for E18 on debian wheezy. (actually > > only requires updating enlightenment deb) > > it's amazing how many people have issues with pulse. i have a > suspicion that its some insanely vocal minority who just don't want > to investigate and/or fix and would rather throw everything out. it > reminds me of the people who refuse to use x11 many years back citing > all sorts of reasons. > > i have never had somethnig not work with pulse. except once - my > chromebook 2.which is an arm laptop device. i haven't spent any > special effort choosing hardware or distros to make it work. it has > just worked (tm). the chromebook 2 i can understand as its whole > audio setup is odd when you dig through the low level mixers. it's > got like 100 knobs to twiddle and after about an hour of swizzling > them, i finally got sound out of the machine. pulse worked then btw - > it was the same problem were i to use pulse or not. the low level > mixers were just not set up right to produce audio and i had to > fiddle with the alsa mixer levels anyway. once fiddled and saved, > pulse works. Pulse has always just worked fine for me to. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] mixer ?
On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 10:01:25 +1000 David Seikel said: > On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 08:16:44 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > wrote: > > > On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 08:55:38 +1000 David Seikel > > said: > > > > > BTW John, DAC stands for Digital to Analogue Converter. Any > > > computer sound has to go through a DAC to produce analogue sound. > > > Your ears are analogue, and can't accept a digital signal. So DACs > > > aren't anything special. Motherboard sound uses DACs, as does any > > > USB sound device. > > > > > > On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 17:25:14 -0500 mh wrote: > > > > > > > Looks like a nice player :) I think the optical out is a digital > > > > signal. As far as the difference in sound with my external dac, > > > > to be honest it's hard to say. I'd like to think that it would > > > > sound better than the dac included on the computer main board. I > > > > think it sounds better, but to say for sure you'd need to do some > > > > A-B-X testing I suppose. I'm happy with the setup though. I > > > > really needed the O2 amp to drive the Beyer headphones, even > > > > though they are 250 ohm, not the 600 ohm. > > > > > > Typical sound on motherboards doesn't shield the analogue side of > > > things from all the electrical noise inside the computer. So it's > > > usual to hear a variety of horrid little sounds, clicks, buzzes, > > > pops, if you listen carefully to typical motherboard sound. > > > Typical USB based sound is outside of the computer, and thus tend > > > to be shielded enough to not pick up all that noise. Try listening > > > to silence or quiet tracks with headphones. YMMV > > > > maybe i have just gotten lucky machine after machine year after > > year... or you have just been unlucky... but i have never had > > unshielded analogue lines on any pc or laptop i have had. never heard > > a buzz or clicks, bings, beeps, clicks, ticks or anything. indeed you > > are right - unshielded analogue lines will indeed inherit > > interference from general electric signals from the motherboard - but > > i've never heard it... > > The interference on my desktop motherboards built in sound was only an > issue when I got my fancy RIG mixer and headphones. It's still fine on > the desktop speakers unless I crank it up, but for headphone usage I use > USB audio. my speakers are not your regular shitty "desktop speakers"". and i spend good money on decent headphones too - analogue plugs on my machines. never heard the interference you speak of. > The interference on a certain model of embedded board I've been using > is so horrible that my client has exchanged strong words with the > manufacturer. I put some workarounds into the software, but it makes > loud clicks and pops while booting up, something I can't work around. > The previous model we used worked fine, but they don't sell that one > any more. aaah but it's an embedded board - embedded is there to cut cost and/or size and power and thus... corners are cut invariably. :) > Built in sound on motherboards is like built in graphics on > motherboards, half the time it's crap, but good enough for most people. > > > i HAVE heard it from a phone if near enough to the headphone or > > speaker cables in the past. though that seems to have stopped these > > days of glorious lte-a :) > > The frequencies of lots of stuff is moving up. Even low frequency > harmonics are moving out of the audio range, making this sort of > interference less of a problem as the years go by. > > > > > I also have the eMixer working, sitting on my shelf :) It works > > > > perfectly! I haven't tried any of the other settings, just using > > > > the master channel. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/23/2014 03:23 PM, John Holland wrote: > > > > > I have a fiio X3 but I've only used it as a portable music > > > > > player. It says it can be a dac though. Is an optical audio > > > > > signal digital data or analog? Do you perceive the difference > > > > > in sound from using the dac? > > > > > > > > > > Also you know I was able to get the enlightenment mixer to work > > > > > with Alsa by installing libasound2-dev before compiling e. > > > > > > > > > > On December 23, 2014 3:10:57 PM EST, mh > > > > > wrote: > > > > >> I plug the dac into the front usb port, then dac output into > > > > >> the amp. To > > > > >> play cds or music files, I usually use Audacious. Connect the > > > > >> dac first, > > > > >> then start Audacious. Then, set Audacious pcm device setting > > > > >> for the dac, use the default mixer device. > > > > >> > > > > >> For system audio, like Firefox, youtube etc, there is the > > > > >> /etc/asound.conf file. In it there are two lines that identify > > > > >> the default audio card to use. Normal system default is 0, my > > > > >> dac is 3: > > > > >> > > > > >> defaults.ctl.card 3 > > > > >> defaults.pcm.card 3 > > > > >> > > > > >> As I plug and unplug the dac it will change from 0 to 3 and > > > > >> back and the > > > > >> system audio will c
Re: [e-users] mixer ?
On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 18:46:08 -0500 John Holland said: > This led to my immediately stopping being productive and investigating > further. I have got my X3 working as a USB DAC under Windows and Linux, > it takes a little tweaking to switch from X3 back to built in so its > hard to do a good A/B comparison. But I like the idea of it and its cool > that it works out of the box with Linux. > > I've been using ALSA lately as an act of protest over systemd as > pulseaudio is by the systemd guy - also lots of audio people seem to > have issues with pulseaudio. I was surprised that alsa is actually > pretty good in terms of driving HDMI, etc. As I mentioned I have added > alsa support to my .debs for E18 on debian wheezy. (actually only > requires updating enlightenment deb) it's amazing how many people have issues with pulse. i have a suspicion that its some insanely vocal minority who just don't want to investigate and/or fix and would rather throw everything out. it reminds me of the people who refuse to use x11 many years back citing all sorts of reasons. i have never had somethnig not work with pulse. except once - my chromebook 2.which is an arm laptop device. i haven't spent any special effort choosing hardware or distros to make it work. it has just worked (tm). the chromebook 2 i can understand as its whole audio setup is odd when you dig through the low level mixers. it's got like 100 knobs to twiddle and after about an hour of swizzling them, i finally got sound out of the machine. pulse worked then btw - it was the same problem were i to use pulse or not. the low level mixers were just not set up right to produce audio and i had to fiddle with the alsa mixer levels anyway. once fiddled and saved, pulse works. -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] mixer ?
On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 08:16:44 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 08:55:38 +1000 David Seikel > said: > > > BTW John, DAC stands for Digital to Analogue Converter. Any > > computer sound has to go through a DAC to produce analogue sound. > > Your ears are analogue, and can't accept a digital signal. So DACs > > aren't anything special. Motherboard sound uses DACs, as does any > > USB sound device. > > > > On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 17:25:14 -0500 mh wrote: > > > > > Looks like a nice player :) I think the optical out is a digital > > > signal. As far as the difference in sound with my external dac, > > > to be honest it's hard to say. I'd like to think that it would > > > sound better than the dac included on the computer main board. I > > > think it sounds better, but to say for sure you'd need to do some > > > A-B-X testing I suppose. I'm happy with the setup though. I > > > really needed the O2 amp to drive the Beyer headphones, even > > > though they are 250 ohm, not the 600 ohm. > > > > Typical sound on motherboards doesn't shield the analogue side of > > things from all the electrical noise inside the computer. So it's > > usual to hear a variety of horrid little sounds, clicks, buzzes, > > pops, if you listen carefully to typical motherboard sound. > > Typical USB based sound is outside of the computer, and thus tend > > to be shielded enough to not pick up all that noise. Try listening > > to silence or quiet tracks with headphones. YMMV > > maybe i have just gotten lucky machine after machine year after > year... or you have just been unlucky... but i have never had > unshielded analogue lines on any pc or laptop i have had. never heard > a buzz or clicks, bings, beeps, clicks, ticks or anything. indeed you > are right - unshielded analogue lines will indeed inherit > interference from general electric signals from the motherboard - but > i've never heard it... The interference on my desktop motherboards built in sound was only an issue when I got my fancy RIG mixer and headphones. It's still fine on the desktop speakers unless I crank it up, but for headphone usage I use USB audio. The interference on a certain model of embedded board I've been using is so horrible that my client has exchanged strong words with the manufacturer. I put some workarounds into the software, but it makes loud clicks and pops while booting up, something I can't work around. The previous model we used worked fine, but they don't sell that one any more. Built in sound on motherboards is like built in graphics on motherboards, half the time it's crap, but good enough for most people. > i HAVE heard it from a phone if near enough to the headphone or > speaker cables in the past. though that seems to have stopped these > days of glorious lte-a :) The frequencies of lots of stuff is moving up. Even low frequency harmonics are moving out of the audio range, making this sort of interference less of a problem as the years go by. > > > I also have the eMixer working, sitting on my shelf :) It works > > > perfectly! I haven't tried any of the other settings, just using > > > the master channel. > > > > > > > > > On 12/23/2014 03:23 PM, John Holland wrote: > > > > I have a fiio X3 but I've only used it as a portable music > > > > player. It says it can be a dac though. Is an optical audio > > > > signal digital data or analog? Do you perceive the difference > > > > in sound from using the dac? > > > > > > > > Also you know I was able to get the enlightenment mixer to work > > > > with Alsa by installing libasound2-dev before compiling e. > > > > > > > > On December 23, 2014 3:10:57 PM EST, mh > > > > wrote: > > > >> I plug the dac into the front usb port, then dac output into > > > >> the amp. To > > > >> play cds or music files, I usually use Audacious. Connect the > > > >> dac first, > > > >> then start Audacious. Then, set Audacious pcm device setting > > > >> for the dac, use the default mixer device. > > > >> > > > >> For system audio, like Firefox, youtube etc, there is the > > > >> /etc/asound.conf file. In it there are two lines that identify > > > >> the default audio card to use. Normal system default is 0, my > > > >> dac is 3: > > > >> > > > >> defaults.ctl.card 3 > > > >> defaults.pcm.card 3 > > > >> > > > >> As I plug and unplug the dac it will change from 0 to 3 and > > > >> back and the > > > >> system audio will change from the computer speakers to the the > > > >> dac. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On 12/23/2014 02:01 PM, John Holland wrote: > > > >>> Is that something that is built into a desktop? > > > >>> > > > >>> On December 23, 2014 11:00:49 AM EST, mh > > > >>> > > > >> wrote: > > > I have a JDS Labs ObjectiveDAC and pair it with the JDS > > > Objective2 headphone amp. Beyer DT990 phones. > > > > > > > > > On 12/23/2014 10:54 AM, John Holland wrote: > > > > What do you use for a dac? > > > > > > > > On December 23, 2014
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This led to my immediately stopping being productive and investigating further. I have got my X3 working as a USB DAC under Windows and Linux, it takes a little tweaking to switch from X3 back to built in so its hard to do a good A/B comparison. But I like the idea of it and its cool that it works out of the box with Linux. I've been using ALSA lately as an act of protest over systemd as pulseaudio is by the systemd guy - also lots of audio people seem to have issues with pulseaudio. I was surprised that alsa is actually pretty good in terms of driving HDMI, etc. As I mentioned I have added alsa support to my .debs for E18 on debian wheezy. (actually only requires updating enlightenment deb) -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 15:12:34 +0100 marcel-hollerb...@t-online.de said: > Hi! > > On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:59:40PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 08:54:38 -0500 mh said: > > > > > On 12/23/2014 01:11 AM, Pierre Couderc wrote: > > > > Le 23/12/2014 00:19, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit : > > > >> likely alsa will get dropped and current mixer replaced by epulse. > > > > Fine ! > > > > > > > > > > sorry to hear that! > > > > mixer isnt in great shape, and alsa is definitely less used than pulse. and > > epulse is very solid and working well - so less bugs. it is far more fully > > featured. > > > > if people have a problem with this, then it may be an idea to get up and get > > your hands dirty. :) > > > > There is a abstraction layer for backends in epulse, and as far as I > know there is a alsa backend, currently it is in a branch, but it works, > I run it a long time :) and that's what i meant by "get hands dirty". do the work. make it solid enough to merge into master and maintain it and fix the bugs. > > -- > > - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > -- > > Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, > > sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your > > hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought > > leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a > > look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net > > ___ > > enlightenment-users mailing list > > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > > -- > Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, > sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your > hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought > leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a > look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
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On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 08:55:38 +1000 David Seikel said: > BTW John, DAC stands for Digital to Analogue Converter. Any computer > sound has to go through a DAC to produce analogue sound. Your ears are > analogue, and can't accept a digital signal. So DACs aren't anything > special. Motherboard sound uses DACs, as does any USB sound device. > > On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 17:25:14 -0500 mh wrote: > > > Looks like a nice player :) I think the optical out is a digital > > signal. As far as the difference in sound with my external dac, to be > > honest it's hard to say. I'd like to think that it would sound better > > than the dac included on the computer main board. I think it sounds > > better, but to say for sure you'd need to do some A-B-X testing I > > suppose. I'm happy with the setup though. I really needed the O2 amp > > to drive the Beyer headphones, even though they are 250 ohm, not the > > 600 ohm. > > Typical sound on motherboards doesn't shield the analogue side of > things from all the electrical noise inside the computer. So it's > usual to hear a variety of horrid little sounds, clicks, buzzes, pops, > if you listen carefully to typical motherboard sound. Typical USB > based sound is outside of the computer, and thus tend to be shielded > enough to not pick up all that noise. Try listening to silence or > quiet tracks with headphones. YMMV maybe i have just gotten lucky machine after machine year after year... or you have just been unlucky... but i have never had unshielded analogue lines on any pc or laptop i have had. never heard a buzz or clicks, bings, beeps, clicks, ticks or anything. indeed you are right - unshielded analogue lines will indeed inherit interference from general electric signals from the motherboard - but i've never heard it... i HAVE heard it from a phone if near enough to the headphone or speaker cables in the past. though that seems to have stopped these days of glorious lte-a :) > > I also have the eMixer working, sitting on my shelf :) It works > > perfectly! I haven't tried any of the other settings, just using the > > master channel. > > > > > > On 12/23/2014 03:23 PM, John Holland wrote: > > > I have a fiio X3 but I've only used it as a portable music player. > > > It says it can be a dac though. Is an optical audio signal digital > > > data or analog? Do you perceive the difference in sound from using > > > the dac? > > > > > > Also you know I was able to get the enlightenment mixer to work > > > with Alsa by installing libasound2-dev before compiling e. > > > > > > On December 23, 2014 3:10:57 PM EST, mh > > > wrote: > > >> I plug the dac into the front usb port, then dac output into the > > >> amp. To > > >> play cds or music files, I usually use Audacious. Connect the dac > > >> first, > > >> then start Audacious. Then, set Audacious pcm device setting for > > >> the dac, use the default mixer device. > > >> > > >> For system audio, like Firefox, youtube etc, there is the > > >> /etc/asound.conf file. In it there are two lines that identify the > > >> default audio card to use. Normal system default is 0, my dac is 3: > > >> > > >> defaults.ctl.card 3 > > >> defaults.pcm.card 3 > > >> > > >> As I plug and unplug the dac it will change from 0 to 3 and back > > >> and the > > >> system audio will change from the computer speakers to the the dac. > > >> > > >> > > >> On 12/23/2014 02:01 PM, John Holland wrote: > > >>> Is that something that is built into a desktop? > > >>> > > >>> On December 23, 2014 11:00:49 AM EST, mh > > >> wrote: > > I have a JDS Labs ObjectiveDAC and pair it with the JDS > > Objective2 headphone amp. Beyer DT990 phones. > > > > > > On 12/23/2014 10:54 AM, John Holland wrote: > > > What do you use for a dac? > > > > > > On December 23, 2014 9:52:08 AM EST, mh > > wrote: > > >> On 12/23/2014 09:12 AM, marcel-hollerb...@t-online.de wrote: > > >>> Hi! > > >>> > > >>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:59:40PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler > > >>> wrote: > > On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 08:54:38 -0500 mh > > said: > > > On 12/23/2014 01:11 AM, Pierre Couderc wrote: > > >> Le 23/12/2014 00:19, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a > > >> écrit > > >> : > > >>> likely alsa will get dropped and current mixer replaced by > > >> epulse. > > >> Fine ! > > >> > > > sorry to hear that! > > mixer isnt in great shape, and alsa is definitely less used > > than > > >> pulse. and > > epulse is very solid and working well - so less bugs. it is > > far > > more > > >> fully > > featured. > > > > if people have a problem with this, then it may be an idea to > > >> get > > up > > >> and get > > your hands dirty. :) > > > > >>> There is a abstraction layer for backends in epulse, and as > > >>> far > > >> as > > I > > >>> know
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BTW John, DAC stands for Digital to Analogue Converter. Any computer sound has to go through a DAC to produce analogue sound. Your ears are analogue, and can't accept a digital signal. So DACs aren't anything special. Motherboard sound uses DACs, as does any USB sound device. On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 17:25:14 -0500 mh wrote: > Looks like a nice player :) I think the optical out is a digital > signal. As far as the difference in sound with my external dac, to be > honest it's hard to say. I'd like to think that it would sound better > than the dac included on the computer main board. I think it sounds > better, but to say for sure you'd need to do some A-B-X testing I > suppose. I'm happy with the setup though. I really needed the O2 amp > to drive the Beyer headphones, even though they are 250 ohm, not the > 600 ohm. Typical sound on motherboards doesn't shield the analogue side of things from all the electrical noise inside the computer. So it's usual to hear a variety of horrid little sounds, clicks, buzzes, pops, if you listen carefully to typical motherboard sound. Typical USB based sound is outside of the computer, and thus tend to be shielded enough to not pick up all that noise. Try listening to silence or quiet tracks with headphones. YMMV > I also have the eMixer working, sitting on my shelf :) It works > perfectly! I haven't tried any of the other settings, just using the > master channel. > > > On 12/23/2014 03:23 PM, John Holland wrote: > > I have a fiio X3 but I've only used it as a portable music player. > > It says it can be a dac though. Is an optical audio signal digital > > data or analog? Do you perceive the difference in sound from using > > the dac? > > > > Also you know I was able to get the enlightenment mixer to work > > with Alsa by installing libasound2-dev before compiling e. > > > > On December 23, 2014 3:10:57 PM EST, mh > > wrote: > >> I plug the dac into the front usb port, then dac output into the > >> amp. To > >> play cds or music files, I usually use Audacious. Connect the dac > >> first, > >> then start Audacious. Then, set Audacious pcm device setting for > >> the dac, use the default mixer device. > >> > >> For system audio, like Firefox, youtube etc, there is the > >> /etc/asound.conf file. In it there are two lines that identify the > >> default audio card to use. Normal system default is 0, my dac is 3: > >> > >> defaults.ctl.card 3 > >> defaults.pcm.card 3 > >> > >> As I plug and unplug the dac it will change from 0 to 3 and back > >> and the > >> system audio will change from the computer speakers to the the dac. > >> > >> > >> On 12/23/2014 02:01 PM, John Holland wrote: > >>> Is that something that is built into a desktop? > >>> > >>> On December 23, 2014 11:00:49 AM EST, mh > >> wrote: > I have a JDS Labs ObjectiveDAC and pair it with the JDS > Objective2 headphone amp. Beyer DT990 phones. > > > On 12/23/2014 10:54 AM, John Holland wrote: > > What do you use for a dac? > > > > On December 23, 2014 9:52:08 AM EST, mh > wrote: > >> On 12/23/2014 09:12 AM, marcel-hollerb...@t-online.de wrote: > >>> Hi! > >>> > >>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:59:40PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler > >>> wrote: > On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 08:54:38 -0500 mh > said: > > On 12/23/2014 01:11 AM, Pierre Couderc wrote: > >> Le 23/12/2014 00:19, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a > >> écrit > >> : > >>> likely alsa will get dropped and current mixer replaced by > >> epulse. > >> Fine ! > >> > > sorry to hear that! > mixer isnt in great shape, and alsa is definitely less used > than > >> pulse. and > epulse is very solid and working well - so less bugs. it is > far > more > >> fully > featured. > > if people have a problem with this, then it may be an idea to > >> get > up > >> and get > your hands dirty. :) > > >>> There is a abstraction layer for backends in epulse, and as > >>> far > >> as > I > >>> know there is a alsa backend, currently it is in a branch, > >>> but it > >> works, > >>> I run it a long time :) > > >> -- > Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel > >> Website, > sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot > Media, > >> is > your > hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly > >> thought > leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and > more. Take a > look and join the conversation now. > >> http://goparallel.sourceforge.net > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/en
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Looks like a nice player :) I think the optical out is a digital signal. As far as the difference in sound with my external dac, to be honest it's hard to say. I'd like to think that it would sound better than the dac included on the computer main board. I think it sounds better, but to say for sure you'd need to do some A-B-X testing I suppose. I'm happy with the setup though. I really needed the O2 amp to drive the Beyer headphones, even though they are 250 ohm, not the 600 ohm. I also have the eMixer working, sitting on my shelf :) It works perfectly! I haven't tried any of the other settings, just using the master channel. On 12/23/2014 03:23 PM, John Holland wrote: > I have a fiio X3 but I've only used it as a portable music player. It says it > can be a dac though. Is an optical audio signal digital data or analog? Do > you perceive the difference in sound from using the dac? > > Also you know I was able to get the enlightenment mixer to work with Alsa by > installing libasound2-dev before compiling e. > > On December 23, 2014 3:10:57 PM EST, mh wrote: >> I plug the dac into the front usb port, then dac output into the amp. >> To >> play cds or music files, I usually use Audacious. Connect the dac >> first, >> then start Audacious. Then, set Audacious pcm device setting for the >> dac, use the default mixer device. >> >> For system audio, like Firefox, youtube etc, there is the >> /etc/asound.conf file. In it there are two lines that identify the >> default audio card to use. Normal system default is 0, my dac is 3: >> >> defaults.ctl.card 3 >> defaults.pcm.card 3 >> >> As I plug and unplug the dac it will change from 0 to 3 and back and >> the >> system audio will change from the computer speakers to the the dac. >> >> >> On 12/23/2014 02:01 PM, John Holland wrote: >>> Is that something that is built into a desktop? >>> >>> On December 23, 2014 11:00:49 AM EST, mh >> wrote: I have a JDS Labs ObjectiveDAC and pair it with the JDS Objective2 headphone amp. Beyer DT990 phones. On 12/23/2014 10:54 AM, John Holland wrote: > What do you use for a dac? > > On December 23, 2014 9:52:08 AM EST, mh wrote: >> On 12/23/2014 09:12 AM, marcel-hollerb...@t-online.de wrote: >>> Hi! >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:59:40PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 08:54:38 -0500 mh said: > On 12/23/2014 01:11 AM, Pierre Couderc wrote: >> Le 23/12/2014 00:19, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit >> : >>> likely alsa will get dropped and current mixer replaced by >> epulse. >> Fine ! >> > sorry to hear that! mixer isnt in great shape, and alsa is definitely less used than >> pulse. and epulse is very solid and working well - so less bugs. it is far more >> fully featured. if people have a problem with this, then it may be an idea to >> get up >> and get your hands dirty. :) >>> There is a abstraction layer for backends in epulse, and as far >> as I >>> know there is a alsa backend, currently it is in a branch, but it >> works, >>> I run it a long time :) >> -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel >> Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, >> is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly >> thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. >> http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenmen >> -- >>> Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, >>> sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, >> is your >>> hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought >>> leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. >> Take a >>> look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net >>> ___ >>> enlightenment-users mailing list >>> enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users >> >> -- >> Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, >> sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is >> your >> hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought >> leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tuto
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I have a fiio X3 but I've only used it as a portable music player. It says it can be a dac though. Is an optical audio signal digital data or analog? Do you perceive the difference in sound from using the dac? Also you know I was able to get the enlightenment mixer to work with Alsa by installing libasound2-dev before compiling e. On December 23, 2014 3:10:57 PM EST, mh wrote: >I plug the dac into the front usb port, then dac output into the amp. >To >play cds or music files, I usually use Audacious. Connect the dac >first, >then start Audacious. Then, set Audacious pcm device setting for the >dac, use the default mixer device. > >For system audio, like Firefox, youtube etc, there is the >/etc/asound.conf file. In it there are two lines that identify the >default audio card to use. Normal system default is 0, my dac is 3: > >defaults.ctl.card 3 >defaults.pcm.card 3 > >As I plug and unplug the dac it will change from 0 to 3 and back and >the >system audio will change from the computer speakers to the the dac. > > >On 12/23/2014 02:01 PM, John Holland wrote: >> Is that something that is built into a desktop? >> >> On December 23, 2014 11:00:49 AM EST, mh >wrote: >>> I have a JDS Labs ObjectiveDAC and pair it with the JDS Objective2 >>> headphone amp. Beyer DT990 phones. >>> >>> >>> On 12/23/2014 10:54 AM, John Holland wrote: What do you use for a dac? On December 23, 2014 9:52:08 AM EST, mh >>> wrote: > On 12/23/2014 09:12 AM, marcel-hollerb...@t-online.de wrote: >> Hi! >> >> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:59:40PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: >>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 08:54:38 -0500 mh >>> said: On 12/23/2014 01:11 AM, Pierre Couderc wrote: > Le 23/12/2014 00:19, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit >: >> likely alsa will get dropped and current mixer replaced by > epulse. > Fine ! > sorry to hear that! >>> mixer isnt in great shape, and alsa is definitely less used than > pulse. and >>> epulse is very solid and working well - so less bugs. it is far >>> more > fully >>> featured. >>> >>> if people have a problem with this, then it may be an idea to >get >>> up > and get >>> your hands dirty. :) >>> >> There is a abstraction layer for backends in epulse, and as far >as >>> I >> know there is a alsa backend, currently it is in a branch, but it > works, >> I run it a long time :) >>> >>> >-- >>> Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel >Website, >>> sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, >is >>> your >>> hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly >thought >>> leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. >>> Take a >>> look and join the conversation now. >http://goparallel.sourceforge.net >>> ___ >>> enlightenment-users mailing list >>> enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenmen >> >-- >> Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, >> sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, >is your >> hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought >> leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. >Take a >> look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net >> ___ >> enlightenment-users mailing list >> enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > > >-- >Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, >sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is >your >hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought >leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. >Take a >look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net >___ >enlightenment-users mailing list >enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-u
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I plug the dac into the front usb port, then dac output into the amp. To play cds or music files, I usually use Audacious. Connect the dac first, then start Audacious. Then, set Audacious pcm device setting for the dac, use the default mixer device. For system audio, like Firefox, youtube etc, there is the /etc/asound.conf file. In it there are two lines that identify the default audio card to use. Normal system default is 0, my dac is 3: defaults.ctl.card 3 defaults.pcm.card 3 As I plug and unplug the dac it will change from 0 to 3 and back and the system audio will change from the computer speakers to the the dac. On 12/23/2014 02:01 PM, John Holland wrote: > Is that something that is built into a desktop? > > On December 23, 2014 11:00:49 AM EST, mh wrote: >> I have a JDS Labs ObjectiveDAC and pair it with the JDS Objective2 >> headphone amp. Beyer DT990 phones. >> >> >> On 12/23/2014 10:54 AM, John Holland wrote: >>> What do you use for a dac? >>> >>> On December 23, 2014 9:52:08 AM EST, mh >> wrote: On 12/23/2014 09:12 AM, marcel-hollerb...@t-online.de wrote: > Hi! > > On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:59:40PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: >> On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 08:54:38 -0500 mh >> said: >>> On 12/23/2014 01:11 AM, Pierre Couderc wrote: Le 23/12/2014 00:19, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit : > likely alsa will get dropped and current mixer replaced by epulse. Fine ! >>> sorry to hear that! >> mixer isnt in great shape, and alsa is definitely less used than pulse. and >> epulse is very solid and working well - so less bugs. it is far >> more fully >> featured. >> >> if people have a problem with this, then it may be an idea to get >> up and get >> your hands dirty. :) >> > There is a abstraction layer for backends in epulse, and as far as >> I > know there is a alsa backend, currently it is in a branch, but it works, > I run it a long time :) >> >> -- >> Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, >> sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is >> your >> hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought >> leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. >> Take a >> look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net >> ___ >> enlightenment-users mailing list >> enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenmen > -- > Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, > sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your > hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought > leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a > look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] mixer ?
Is that something that is built into a desktop? On December 23, 2014 11:00:49 AM EST, mh wrote: >I have a JDS Labs ObjectiveDAC and pair it with the JDS Objective2 >headphone amp. Beyer DT990 phones. > > >On 12/23/2014 10:54 AM, John Holland wrote: >> What do you use for a dac? >> >> On December 23, 2014 9:52:08 AM EST, mh >wrote: >>> On 12/23/2014 09:12 AM, marcel-hollerb...@t-online.de wrote: Hi! On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:59:40PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 08:54:38 -0500 mh >said: > >> On 12/23/2014 01:11 AM, Pierre Couderc wrote: >>> Le 23/12/2014 00:19, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit : likely alsa will get dropped and current mixer replaced by >>> epulse. >>> Fine ! >>> >> sorry to hear that! > mixer isnt in great shape, and alsa is definitely less used than >>> pulse. and > epulse is very solid and working well - so less bugs. it is far >more >>> fully > featured. > > if people have a problem with this, then it may be an idea to get >up >>> and get > your hands dirty. :) > There is a abstraction layer for backends in epulse, and as far as >I know there is a alsa backend, currently it is in a branch, but it >>> works, I run it a long time :) >>> > > >-- >Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, >sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is >your >hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought >leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. >Take a >look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net >___ >enlightenment-users mailing list >enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenmen -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] mixer ?
I have a JDS Labs ObjectiveDAC and pair it with the JDS Objective2 headphone amp. Beyer DT990 phones. On 12/23/2014 10:54 AM, John Holland wrote: > What do you use for a dac? > > On December 23, 2014 9:52:08 AM EST, mh wrote: >> On 12/23/2014 09:12 AM, marcel-hollerb...@t-online.de wrote: >>> Hi! >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:59:40PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 08:54:38 -0500 mh said: > On 12/23/2014 01:11 AM, Pierre Couderc wrote: >> Le 23/12/2014 00:19, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit : >>> likely alsa will get dropped and current mixer replaced by >> epulse. >> Fine ! >> > sorry to hear that! mixer isnt in great shape, and alsa is definitely less used than >> pulse. and epulse is very solid and working well - so less bugs. it is far more >> fully featured. if people have a problem with this, then it may be an idea to get up >> and get your hands dirty. :) >>> There is a abstraction layer for backends in epulse, and as far as I >>> know there is a alsa backend, currently it is in a branch, but it >> works, >>> I run it a long time :) >> -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] mixer ?
What do you use for a dac? On December 23, 2014 9:52:08 AM EST, mh wrote: >On 12/23/2014 09:12 AM, marcel-hollerb...@t-online.de wrote: >> Hi! >> >> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:59:40PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: >>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 08:54:38 -0500 mh said: >>> On 12/23/2014 01:11 AM, Pierre Couderc wrote: > Le 23/12/2014 00:19, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit : >> likely alsa will get dropped and current mixer replaced by >epulse. > Fine ! > sorry to hear that! >>> mixer isnt in great shape, and alsa is definitely less used than >pulse. and >>> epulse is very solid and working well - so less bugs. it is far more >fully >>> featured. >>> >>> if people have a problem with this, then it may be an idea to get up >and get >>> your hands dirty. :) >>> >> There is a abstraction layer for backends in epulse, and as far as I >> know there is a alsa backend, currently it is in a branch, but it >works, >> I run it a long time :) > >I'm old and slow and not a programmer so I wouldn't be much help ;) I >tried pulse again a few months ago, and it wouldn't recognize the >headphone jack. Maybe that's fixed now. I understood that pulse is just > >an abstraction layer on top of alsa, so not sure how alsa could go >away? > >I use alsa to try an have as close to bit-perfect source for my >external >dac and headphones. cd > alsa > external DAC/amp > headphones. With >pulse, it's cd > alsa > pulse > external DAC/amp > headphones. > > > >-- >Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, >sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is >your >hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought >leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. >Take a >look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net >___ >enlightenment-users mailing list >enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] mixer ?
On 12/23/2014 09:12 AM, marcel-hollerb...@t-online.de wrote: > Hi! > > On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:59:40PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: >> On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 08:54:38 -0500 mh said: >> >>> On 12/23/2014 01:11 AM, Pierre Couderc wrote: Le 23/12/2014 00:19, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit : > likely alsa will get dropped and current mixer replaced by epulse. Fine ! >>> sorry to hear that! >> mixer isnt in great shape, and alsa is definitely less used than pulse. and >> epulse is very solid and working well - so less bugs. it is far more fully >> featured. >> >> if people have a problem with this, then it may be an idea to get up and get >> your hands dirty. :) >> > There is a abstraction layer for backends in epulse, and as far as I > know there is a alsa backend, currently it is in a branch, but it works, > I run it a long time :) I'm old and slow and not a programmer so I wouldn't be much help ;) I tried pulse again a few months ago, and it wouldn't recognize the headphone jack. Maybe that's fixed now. I understood that pulse is just an abstraction layer on top of alsa, so not sure how alsa could go away? I use alsa to try an have as close to bit-perfect source for my external dac and headphones. cd > alsa > external DAC/amp > headphones. With pulse, it's cd > alsa > pulse > external DAC/amp > headphones. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] mixer ?
Hi! On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:59:40PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 08:54:38 -0500 mh said: > > > On 12/23/2014 01:11 AM, Pierre Couderc wrote: > > > Le 23/12/2014 00:19, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit : > > >> likely alsa will get dropped and current mixer replaced by epulse. > > > Fine ! > > > > > > > sorry to hear that! > > mixer isnt in great shape, and alsa is definitely less used than pulse. and > epulse is very solid and working well - so less bugs. it is far more fully > featured. > > if people have a problem with this, then it may be an idea to get up and get > your hands dirty. :) > There is a abstraction layer for backends in epulse, and as far as I know there is a alsa backend, currently it is in a branch, but it works, I run it a long time :) > -- > - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com > > > -- > Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, > sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your > hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought > leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a > look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] mixer ?
On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 08:54:38 -0500 mh said: > On 12/23/2014 01:11 AM, Pierre Couderc wrote: > > Le 23/12/2014 00:19, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit : > >> likely alsa will get dropped and current mixer replaced by epulse. > > Fine ! > > > > sorry to hear that! mixer isnt in great shape, and alsa is definitely less used than pulse. and epulse is very solid and working well - so less bugs. it is far more fully featured. if people have a problem with this, then it may be an idea to get up and get your hands dirty. :) -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] mixer ?
On 12/23/2014 01:11 AM, Pierre Couderc wrote: > Le 23/12/2014 00:19, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit : >> likely alsa will get dropped and current mixer replaced by epulse. > Fine ! > sorry to hear that! -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] mixer ?
Le 23/12/2014 00:19, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit : > likely alsa will get dropped and current mixer replaced by epulse. Fine ! -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] mixer ?
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 18:20:46 +0100 Pierre Couderc said: > Thank you, I have uninstalled ALSA and installed pulsaudio and I have > no more problem. > But please note that the message tells about ALSA and not pulseaudio, > and this is the reason I had first installed ALSA and not pulseaudio. you are likely using pulse now - not alsa. before you were trying to use alsa mixer support. this requires e be built with alsa mixer support (libasound). if it wasn't - it won't work. pulse support is always compiled because it has no dependencies at compile time. it does require pulse to run at runtime though. likely alsa will get dropped and current mixer replaced by epulse. > On 12/17/2014 11:33 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 09:29:09 +0100 Pierre Couderc said: > > > >> I have a mixer gadget, but it empty saying "no alsa mixer found", and > >> this either if I install alsamixergui debian packet or not. > >> Please note that ALSA is installed and VLC is working correctly. > > e wasnt build with alsa support? pulse support is buil.t in and needs no > > deps - if you run pulseaudio the mixer will use thatinstead > > > > > -- > Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, > sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your > hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought > leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a > look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] mixer ?
Thank you, I have uninstalled ALSA and installed pulsaudio and I have no more problem. But please note that the message tells about ALSA and not pulseaudio, and this is the reason I had first installed ALSA and not pulseaudio. On 12/17/2014 11:33 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 09:29:09 +0100 Pierre Couderc said: > >> I have a mixer gadget, but it empty saying "no alsa mixer found", and >> this either if I install alsamixergui debian packet or not. >> Please note that ALSA is installed and VLC is working correctly. > e wasnt build with alsa support? pulse support is buil.t in and needs no deps > - > if you run pulseaudio the mixer will use thatinstead > -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] mixer ?
Uploaded the deb with the alsa mixer support, enlightenment 0.18.8-2 - I think apt-get upgrade will pull it automatically. John On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 03:56:56PM -0500, John Holland wrote: > Philippe, > > THANKS. I just got a .deb for wheezy of enlightenment built, > done on a machine with libasound-dev installed, and it makes the mixer > work with alsa (and no pulseaudio). > > I will publish it soon, going to use it myself for a few days first. > > > THANK YOU. > > John > > On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 16:08:55 +0100 > Philippe Jean Guillaumie wrote: > > > > > > > On 12/17/2014 03:41 PM, John Holland wrote: > > > I have this problem as well, and I tried rebuilding elf but it > > > didn't help. I found that qasmixer works ok and I can map my volume > > > control keys to little scripts to adjust the volume using > > > xbindkeys. Don't have this here at work but I could send it later. > > > Enlightenment mixer was doing all this with pulseaudio but I wanted > > > to try running without pulse. > > > > > > On December 17, 2014 3:29:09 AM EST, Pierre Couderc > > > wrote: > > >> I have a mixer gadget, but it empty saying "no alsa mixer found", > > >> and this either if I install alsamixergui debian packet or not. > > >> Please note that ALSA is installed and VLC is working correctly. > > > > Is libasound-dev (libasound2-dev on Ubuntu) installed? > > > > -- > > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and > > Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App > > Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for > > billion-dollar corporations, FREE > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > ___ enlightenment-users > > mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > > > > -- > John Holland > jholl...@vin-dit.org > gpg public key ID 0xEFAF0D15 > > > > -- > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- John Holland jholl...@vin-dit.org gpg public key ID 0x9551CF2D -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] mixer ?
Philippe, THANKS. I just got a .deb for wheezy of enlightenment built, done on a machine with libasound-dev installed, and it makes the mixer work with alsa (and no pulseaudio). I will publish it soon, going to use it myself for a few days first. THANK YOU. John On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 16:08:55 +0100 Philippe Jean Guillaumie wrote: > > > On 12/17/2014 03:41 PM, John Holland wrote: > > I have this problem as well, and I tried rebuilding elf but it > > didn't help. I found that qasmixer works ok and I can map my volume > > control keys to little scripts to adjust the volume using > > xbindkeys. Don't have this here at work but I could send it later. > > Enlightenment mixer was doing all this with pulseaudio but I wanted > > to try running without pulse. > > > > On December 17, 2014 3:29:09 AM EST, Pierre Couderc > > wrote: > >> I have a mixer gadget, but it empty saying "no alsa mixer found", > >> and this either if I install alsamixergui debian packet or not. > >> Please note that ALSA is installed and VLC is working correctly. > > Is libasound-dev (libasound2-dev on Ubuntu) installed? > > -- > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and > Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App > Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for > billion-dollar corporations, FREE > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___ enlightenment-users > mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- John Holland jholl...@vin-dit.org gpg public key ID 0xEFAF0D15 -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] mixer ?
ok, thank you. I try it. On 12/17/2014 11:33 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 09:29:09 +0100 Pierre Couderc said: > >> I have a mixer gadget, but it empty saying "no alsa mixer found", and >> this either if I install alsamixergui debian packet or not. >> Please note that ALSA is installed and VLC is working correctly. > e wasnt build with alsa support? pulse support is buil.t in and needs no deps > - > if you run pulseaudio the mixer will use thatinstead > -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] mixer ?
On 12/17/2014 03:41 PM, John Holland wrote: > I have this problem as well, and I tried rebuilding elf but it didn't help. I > found that qasmixer works ok and I can map my volume control keys to little > scripts to adjust the volume using xbindkeys. Don't have this here at work > but I could send it later. Enlightenment mixer was doing all this with > pulseaudio but I wanted to try running without pulse. > > On December 17, 2014 3:29:09 AM EST, Pierre Couderc wrote: >> I have a mixer gadget, but it empty saying "no alsa mixer found", and >> this either if I install alsamixergui debian packet or not. >> Please note that ALSA is installed and VLC is working correctly. Is libasound-dev (libasound2-dev on Ubuntu) installed? -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] mixer ?
I have this problem as well, and I tried rebuilding elf but it didn't help. I found that qasmixer works ok and I can map my volume control keys to little scripts to adjust the volume using xbindkeys. Don't have this here at work but I could send it later. Enlightenment mixer was doing all this with pulseaudio but I wanted to try running without pulse. On December 17, 2014 3:29:09 AM EST, Pierre Couderc wrote: >I have a mixer gadget, but it empty saying "no alsa mixer found", and >this either if I install alsamixergui debian packet or not. >Please note that ALSA is installed and VLC is working correctly. > >-- >Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server >from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and >Dashboards >with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & >more >Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, >FREE >http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >___ >enlightenment-users mailing list >enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] mixer ?
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 09:29:09 +0100 Pierre Couderc said: > I have a mixer gadget, but it empty saying "no alsa mixer found", and > this either if I install alsamixergui debian packet or not. > Please note that ALSA is installed and VLC is working correctly. e wasnt build with alsa support? pulse support is buil.t in and needs no deps - if you run pulseaudio the mixer will use thatinstead -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] mixer ?
I have a mixer gadget, but it empty saying "no alsa mixer found", and this either if I install alsamixergui debian packet or not. Please note that ALSA is installed and VLC is working correctly. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Mixer module and pulseaudio
On Thursday 26 Jun 2014 12:49:44 Jérémy Zurcher wrote: > Hi, > > the mixer launches pulseaudio if not running then thies to connect to > it,it enventually falls back to alsa backend on failure > > On Thursday 26 June 2014 11:06, Mick wrote : > > I've recently installed pulseaudio because skype decided to have a hard > > dependency on it. > > > > I am trying to understand how it is supposed to work, since its effects > > are not transparent on my system. Sometimes the mixer will show all the > > various audio sinks and sources (headphones, PCM, Master, Capture, Mic, > > etc.) that > > > good ol' alsa used to show. Other times it will only list: > the below it the poor pulse backend > > > RV710/730 HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 4000 series] Digital Stereo (HDMI) > > Built-in Audio Analog Stereo > > Monitor of RV710/730 HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 4000 series] Digital Stereo > > (HDMI) Monitor of Built-in Audio Analog Stereo > > Built-in Audio Analog Stereo Are you saying that this happens when pulseaudio is not working properly? > there are opened issues: > https://phab.enlightenment.org/T1059 > https://phab.enlightenment.org/T1299 Hmm ... I need to get another passwd to be able to login in this page. > > The problem is that the second headphone jack is always zeroed and muted > > - actually it winds down to zero and mutes itself before my eyes if I > > launch Skype. > > try to start pulseaudio before launching e, > that should confirm that there is an issue in the way mixer thrie to get > in touch with pulse OK, I started pulseaudio from the console with '/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start' and then started e. I found that there were two pulseaudio processes running afterwards. So, pulseaudio is started regardless. In any case, I found these errors in syslog: Jun 26 20:50:40 dell_xps dbus[1385]: [system] Activating service name='org.bluez' (using servicehelper) Jun 26 20:50:40 dell_xps pulseaudio[3401]: [pulseaudio] server-lookup.c: Unable to contact D-Bus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NotSupported: Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11 Jun 26 20:50:40 dell_xps pulseaudio[3401]: [pulseaudio] main.c: Unable to contact D-Bus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NotSupported: Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11 Jun 26 20:50:40 dell_xps dbus[1385]: [system] Activated service 'org.bluez' failed: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1 Jun 26 20:50:40 dell_xps pulseaudio[3401]: [pulseaudio] bluez5-util.c: GetManagedObjects() failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1 Jun 26 20:50:42 dell_xps kernel: ehci-pci :00:1d.0: reused qh 8800c2166d00 schedule Jun 26 20:50:42 dell_xps kernel: usb 2-1.2: link qh8-0601/8800c2166d00 start 2 [1/2 us] Jun 26 20:50:44 dell_xps dhcpcd[3345]: enp11s0: no IPv6 Routers available Jun 26 20:50:50 dell_xps dbus[1385]: [system] Activating service name='org.freedesktop.UDisks2' (using servicehelper) Jun 26 20:50:50 dell_xps udisksd[3518]: udisks daemon version 2.1.3 starting Jun 26 20:50:50 dell_xps dbus[1385]: [system] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.UDisks2' Jun 26 20:50:50 dell_xps udisksd[3518]: Acquired the name org.freedesktop.UDisks2 on the system message bus Jun 26 20:51:30 dell_xps dbus[1385]: [system] Activating service name='org.freedesktop.UPower' (using servicehelper) Jun 26 20:51:30 dell_xps dbus[1385]: [system] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.UPower' Jun 26 20:51:31 dell_xps dbus[1385]: [system] Activating service name='org.bluez' (using servicehelper) Jun 26 20:51:31 dell_xps dbus[1385]: [system] Activated service 'org.bluez' failed: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1 Jun 26 20:51:31 dell_xps pulseaudio[3623]: [pulseaudio] bluez5-util.c: GetManagedObjects() failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1 Not sure what the dbus problem is here ... :-/ -- Regards, Mick -- Open source business process management suite built on Java and Eclipse Turn processes into business applications with Bonita BPM Community Edition Quickly connect people, data, and systems into organized workflows Winner of BOSSIE, CODIE, OW2 and Gartner awards http://p.sf.net/sfu/Bonitasoft___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Mixer module and pulseaudio
Hi, the mixer launches pulseaudio if not running then thies to connect to it,it enventually falls back to alsa backend on failure On Thursday 26 June 2014 11:06, Mick wrote : > I've recently installed pulseaudio because skype decided to have a hard > dependency on it. > > I am trying to understand how it is supposed to work, since its effects are > not transparent on my system. Sometimes the mixer will show all the various > audio sinks and sources (headphones, PCM, Master, Capture, Mic, etc.) that > good ol' alsa used to show. Other times it will only list: > the below it the poor pulse backend > RV710/730 HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 4000 series] Digital Stereo (HDMI) > Built-in Audio Analog Stereo > Monitor of RV710/730 HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 4000 series] Digital Stereo (HDMI) > Monitor of Built-in Audio Analog Stereo > Built-in Audio Analog Stereo > there are opened issues: https://phab.enlightenment.org/T1059 https://phab.enlightenment.org/T1299 > The problem is that the second headphone jack is always zeroed and muted - > actually it winds down to zero and mutes itself before my eyes if I launch > Skype. > try to start pulseaudio before launching e, that should confirm that there is an issue in the way mixer thrie to get in touch with pulse > How is this meant to work and why does it switch between different lists? > There may be a pattern to it (i.e. having headphones inserted before booting > the laptop) but I have not yet undertaken any prolonged testing to determine > this. > > > PS. Occasionally, the mixer gadget will not load/display on my desktop, but > restarting e, or rebooting, will bring it back up. > > PPS. I am running alsa-utils-1.0.27.2, pulseaudio-5.0-r2, on kernel-3.12.21 > on a gentoo system. --- Hell'O from Yverdoom Jérémy (jeyzu) -- Open source business process management suite built on Java and Eclipse Turn processes into business applications with Bonita BPM Community Edition Quickly connect people, data, and systems into organized workflows Winner of BOSSIE, CODIE, OW2 and Gartner awards http://p.sf.net/sfu/Bonitasoft ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Mixer module and pulseaudio
I've recently installed pulseaudio because skype decided to have a hard dependency on it. I am trying to understand how it is supposed to work, since its effects are not transparent on my system. Sometimes the mixer will show all the various audio sinks and sources (headphones, PCM, Master, Capture, Mic, etc.) that good ol' alsa used to show. Other times it will only list: RV710/730 HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 4000 series] Digital Stereo (HDMI) Built-in Audio Analog Stereo Monitor of RV710/730 HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 4000 series] Digital Stereo (HDMI) Monitor of Built-in Audio Analog Stereo Built-in Audio Analog Stereo The problem is that the second headphone jack is always zeroed and muted - actually it winds down to zero and mutes itself before my eyes if I launch Skype. How is this meant to work and why does it switch between different lists? There may be a pattern to it (i.e. having headphones inserted before booting the laptop) but I have not yet undertaken any prolonged testing to determine this. PS. Occasionally, the mixer gadget will not load/display on my desktop, but restarting e, or rebooting, will bring it back up. PPS. I am running alsa-utils-1.0.27.2, pulseaudio-5.0-r2, on kernel-3.12.21 on a gentoo system. -- Regards, Mick -- Open source business process management suite built on Java and Eclipse Turn processes into business applications with Bonita BPM Community Edition Quickly connect people, data, and systems into organized workflows Winner of BOSSIE, CODIE, OW2 and Gartner awards http://p.sf.net/sfu/Bonitasoft___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] mixer question
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Mehturt wrote: > I'm seeing some issues with mixer gadget. > First, I can hear music even though the mixer volume is at 0%. > > The Vol+ and Vol- keyboard buttons don't seem to affect volume level as > well, even though the popup on screen is showed properly (incrementing on > Vol+ and decrementing on Vol- by 5%). What they do affect is the silders > which are shown after I click on the mixer gadget. > > I can however control volume using the headphone, master and PCM output > channels in mixer. > > I should also mention that changing volume level via mixer does not seem > to affect any of the volume indicators I see in alsamixer. > > This got resolved all by itself. For me e17 ocassionaly gets into state when I need to remove all $HOME/.e to get it working properly, this was the case now as well. m. -- Minimize network downtime and maximize team effectiveness. Reduce network management and security costs.Learn how to hire the most talented Cisco Certified professionals. Visit the Employer Resources Portal http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/employer_resources/index.html ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] mixer question
I'm seeing some issues with mixer gadget. First, I can hear music even though the mixer volume is at 0%. The Vol+ and Vol- keyboard buttons don't seem to affect volume level as well, even though the popup on screen is showed properly (incrementing on Vol+ and decrementing on Vol- by 5%). What they do affect is the silders which are shown after I click on the mixer gadget. I can however control volume using the headphone, master and PCM output channels in mixer. I should also mention that changing volume level via mixer does not seem to affect any of the volume indicators I see in alsamixer. m. -- Minimize network downtime and maximize team effectiveness. Reduce network management and security costs.Learn how to hire the most talented Cisco Certified professionals. Visit the Employer Resources Portal http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/employer_resources/index.html ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Mixer Module and Pulseaudio
Hi, I have a quick enquire to make about the mixer module... On my sytem it fails to reload after a reboot, with the following errors in .xsession-errors file: ALSA lib control.c:882:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL alsa_output.usb-Creative_Technology_SB_X-Fi_Surround_5.1_01PN-00-S51.analog-surround-51 MIXER: Cannot get hardware info: No such file or directory I am using pulseaudio and a USB sound card and sound does *work*. As the suggested means of starting pulseaudio is as a user, it is started out of /etc/xdg/autostart. This leds me to guess that the module is failing to find anything related to pulse, because pulse hasn't started. Is this an accurate evaluation of the problem, and if so what is the best way to address it. Thanks in advance, Nasa -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Mixer module default settings
Hi, sorry for this "lame" issue but, is there a way to set which is the default control (Master/Mic/...) that the mixer module starts up with? For some unknown reason (to me) it has changed from Master to Mic. So now I have to go to settings and set it to Master on every startup, which is becoming rather annoying. Thanks, Fernando -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] mixer and language modules
On Nov 8, 2007 1:44 AM, Razmig K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would you please tell me whether these modules are no longer meant to > be used (since there may be better replacements) or that they are just > incomplete? In the latter case, is it among the interests of the > Enlightenment project to have these modules completed? > > //rk Hi, all! This theme is very interesting for me to. But I use *.deb snapshot from e17.dunnewind.net, and mixer module was fine before last distupgrade. But language module was kill my XKB options all the time, and I disable it :( Please anybody can tell me is this modules will be fixed, or it's can't be? - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Mixer module does not work for me
Hi, When initially introduced, the mixer module would display the slider. It had no effect but it did display. For some time now the mixer does nothing at all. Is there something I should do or is it still too early to expect it to function?? Thanks, Jim - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
