Re: [EVDL] Solar for my EV
On Sep 30, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > Finally finished my solar pier enough to take some pictures. Congratulations, and thanks! It's a shame you had to go through so much just to do the right thing...but now that you have, hopefully the trail you've blazed will soon be very well trodden. ...personally, I'd be much happier if, rather than the current morass of various prohibitions and roadblocks, it were written into code that all new or upgraded permanent roofing had to have some minimum percentage of area be solar collectors of some sort, but I realize that's a pipe dream b& -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 801 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140930/119042a7/attachment.pgp> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] warp 9 has gone sparky sparky
I had a lot of troubles with sparking when I bought my conversion with an Advanced DC motor. It was running in reverse without the timing adjusted. It ended up melting some brush springs and part of the brush holder. After changing all the brushes, springs, and the brush holder, it has been working fine for 25k miles. Make sure your motor rotation and timing match. In my case, the motor was reversed because Honda motors turn opposite most other vehicles. Mike On September 30, 2014 11:54:25 AM MDT, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: >I second that, >especially with a lot of grit from offroad driving >getting into your motor, there is a good chance that >brushes have worn faster than usual and are now at the >end of spring travel. Brushes without enough force to >push them onto the comm become spark generators. >They are also easy to check without removing the motor, >so first make sure the brushes are in good shape >before thinking about other work on the motor. > >Success, > >Cor van de Water >Chief Scientist >Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com >Email: cwa...@proxim.com Private: http://www.cvandewater.info >Skype: cor_van_de_water Tel: +1 408 383 7626 > > >-Original Message- >From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Robert >Bruninga >via EV >Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:12 AM >To: Ben Jarrett; Electric Vehicle Discussion List >Subject: Re: [EVDL] warp 9 has gone sparky sparky > >Didja check the brushes? >Bob > >On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Ben Jarrett via EV >wrote: > >> >> >> Hi All, >> >> Well, I have about 6000 miles on my jeep and my warp 9 motor started >> making some zapping sounds >> a little while back. It's gotten pretty bad now - I can even see >sparks >> when not >> under load. >> >> I'm not sure if I ran the motor to harshly or if maybe I got some >debris >> in there while off-roading. I had >> started running force air, but the blower was loud I decided to go >open >> air (with a splash guard). >> >> I've been wanting to switch to an AC motor (thinking oil cooled hpev >> ac35x2 when it comes upout) >> >> While I'm waiting for that, I'm going to try and get the motor fixed >and >> maybe find a quieter >> blower. Can anyone point me to good info on how I might repair my >motor? >> I may try a shop like this one: >> >> http://www.hamilton-electric.com >> >> thanks! >> >> -ben >> www.evalbum.com/4001 >> >> >> >> -- next part -- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> >http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140929/f6329 >30f/attachment.htm >> > >> ___ >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >> >> >-- next part -- >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >URL: ><http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140930/662b >607d/attachment.htm> >___ >UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA >(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > >___ >UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA >(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] Solar for my EV
Finally finished my solar pier enough to take some pictures. See: http://aprs.org/solar-on-piers.html Right now it consists of five 12' floating sections with 2 panels each. I can build one more section and two more finger piers and still fit within my pier permit eventually. This began in 2009 until the State of Maryland denied my application because nothing is allowed on piers unless it pertains to your boat. SO uyou can put a gas station on your pier to service your gas burning, bay fouling, air polluting, noisy, stink-pot-boat, but you cannot put solar panels on a pier to power your electric boat and run the exceeds back into the grid for our house. After 4 years of my lobbying efforts, $2000 in fees and two hearings, the law was finally changed and now, last weekend I finished it enough to take some pictures. Should add enough juice to do all my EV driving. Bob, WB4APR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140930/ebea5ef5/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Lithium batteries direct from China
I have 16 20Ah GBS cells and all of them off gas what smells like the electrolyte solution. Put them in an enclosed box for a few days and it is really obvious! I have not detected this with my TS or CALB cells. I'm concerned that either the plastic, vent seals, and/or the terminal seals are leaking. Also, the GBS cells appear to be "softer" than the TS or GBS cells tho I don't have raw data to back that up. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > Byron James via EV wrote: >> >> Yikes - the GBS specs call out max continuous discharge <3C. I would be >> careful pulling 5C. A Local GBS distributor destroyed, within a month, >> GBS cells charging and discharging GBS cells at 3C... > > > I tested 16 GMS-LFMP100AH cells. I found two bad ones as delivered > (significantly higher internal resistance and low capacity). The others > performed reasonably well (85-105ah capacity, and about a 2:1 range in > internal resistance). > > One thing I didn't like: These GBS cells used a stack of three thin copper > sheet metal strips to interconnect the cells. Four small 5mm steel screws at > each end screwed into the aluminum terminal to hold them. It was very > difficult to make a good, consistently low resistance connection with this > setup. I have my doubts that these connections will *stay* good over time. > > -- > Results! Why man, I have gotten a lot of results. I know several > thousand things that won't work. -- Thomas A. Edison > -- > Lee Hart's EV projects are at http://www.sunrise-ev.com/LeesEVs.htm > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > -- David D. Nelson http://evalbum.com/1328 http://www.levforum.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] International Plug In Day in Hermosillo MX
Hi all, This weekend was the International Plug In Day in Hermosillo MX ( http://www.diadelautoelectrico.org/). It was great! There were 3 cars from Tucson, my 2000 Insight (hybrid), EV Jerry took his Spirit of DC (Prius) and Clarence trailered his Karmen Ghia conversion. We had a police escort from the Nogales border to Hermosillo since we were supposed to have some more cars, including a Tesla Roadster, but they couldn't make it. Here are some pics https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1484531351817028.1073741832.1455012504 768913&type=1 The organizer was Marco Gaxiola https://www.facebook.com/MarcoGaxiolaM He got Nissan to send 2 Leafs and they gave lots o rides to the crowd. There were 2 people ready to buy the Leafs right then! It was really fun to explain everything, and since my Spanish is so bad, I always got somebody to translate what I was explaining, which gave me a little time to think about the next thing I was going to say. And the questions were so great, so much interest. I think they are very tired of gasoline. I found the enthusiasm very real and sincere. There were also electric bikes and segways that were constantly being ridden around. Marco had 2 of his EVSE's to show off along with some of the EV equipment that he is selling on line, www.energyev.com and I brought one of my TucsonEV-SE's to show off. It was a very productive weekend for EV's Rush Dougherty www.TucsonEV.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Lithium batteries direct from China
Lee Hart via EV wrote: I tested 16 GMS-LFMP100AH cells... Correction; should be GBS-LFMP100AH cells. -- Results! Why man, I have gotten a lot of results. I know several thousand things that won't work. -- Thomas A. Edison -- Lee Hart's EV projects are at http://www.sunrise-ev.com/LeesEVs.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Lithium batteries direct from China
Byron James via EV wrote: Yikes - the GBS specs call out max continuous discharge <3C. I would be careful pulling 5C. A Local GBS distributor destroyed, within a month, GBS cells charging and discharging GBS cells at 3C... I tested 16 GMS-LFMP100AH cells. I found two bad ones as delivered (significantly higher internal resistance and low capacity). The others performed reasonably well (85-105ah capacity, and about a 2:1 range in internal resistance). One thing I didn't like: These GBS cells used a stack of three thin copper sheet metal strips to interconnect the cells. Four small 5mm steel screws at each end screwed into the aluminum terminal to hold them. It was very difficult to make a good, consistently low resistance connection with this setup. I have my doubts that these connections will *stay* good over time. -- Results! Why man, I have gotten a lot of results. I know several thousand things that won't work. -- Thomas A. Edison -- Lee Hart's EV projects are at http://www.sunrise-ev.com/LeesEVs.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Lithium batteries direct from China
Steve Clunn wrote "Didn't know you where testing so many cells , I just put 66 60 ah GBS's in a BMW they seem to be doing good. time will tell, they are dishing out 5 c without the cell voltage dropping below 3v ." Yikes - the GBS specs call out max continuous discharge < 3C. I would be careful pulling 5C. A Local GBS distributor destroyed, within a month, GBS cells charging and discharging GBS cells at 3C. I don't have their test procedure but it made me think twice about pulling 3C from GBS cells. My motorcycle has 40AH GBS cells of which I use only 2 1/2 C and the cells are still doing great 3 1/2 years later. On Sep 30, 2014, at 5:40 AM, Steve Clunn via EV wrote: > Didn't know you where testing so many cells , I just put 66 60 ah GBS > 's in a BMW they seem to be doing good. time will tell, they are > dishing out 5 c without the cell voltage dropping below 3v . ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] power supply
I'm looking for a power supply for my lfp batteries. some thing thats reverse and short protected. fuse not neeed. I'm sure it needs to be cc/cv . I know how to set volts/ amps. like to do 1 to 4 cells. 2-10 amps nice to have mettering but I have my own. hoping to spend less that $100. I had a mastech 30v 3 amp but blew it some how. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] warp 9 has gone sparky sparky
I second that, especially with a lot of grit from offroad driving getting into your motor, there is a good chance that brushes have worn faster than usual and are now at the end of spring travel. Brushes without enough force to push them onto the comm become spark generators. They are also easy to check without removing the motor, so first make sure the brushes are in good shape before thinking about other work on the motor. Success, Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com Email: cwa...@proxim.com Private: http://www.cvandewater.info Skype: cor_van_de_water Tel: +1 408 383 7626 -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Robert Bruninga via EV Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:12 AM To: Ben Jarrett; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] warp 9 has gone sparky sparky Didja check the brushes? Bob On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Ben Jarrett via EV wrote: > > > Hi All, > > Well, I have about 6000 miles on my jeep and my warp 9 motor started > making some zapping sounds > a little while back. It's gotten pretty bad now - I can even see sparks > when not > under load. > > I'm not sure if I ran the motor to harshly or if maybe I got some debris > in there while off-roading. I had > started running force air, but the blower was loud I decided to go open > air (with a splash guard). > > I've been wanting to switch to an AC motor (thinking oil cooled hpev > ac35x2 when it comes upout) > > While I'm waiting for that, I'm going to try and get the motor fixed and > maybe find a quieter > blower. Can anyone point me to good info on how I might repair my motor? > I may try a shop like this one: > > http://www.hamilton-electric.com > > thanks! > > -ben > www.evalbum.com/4001 > > > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140929/f6329 30f/attachment.htm > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140930/662b 607d/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] warp 9 has gone sparky sparky
Didja check the brushes? Bob On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Ben Jarrett via EV wrote: > > > Hi All, > > Well, I have about 6000 miles on my jeep and my warp 9 motor started > making some zapping sounds > a little while back. It's gotten pretty bad now - I can even see sparks > when not > under load. > > I'm not sure if I ran the motor to harshly or if maybe I got some debris > in there while off-roading. I had > started running force air, but the blower was loud I decided to go open > air (with a splash guard). > > I've been wanting to switch to an AC motor (thinking oil cooled hpev > ac35x2 when it comes upout) > > While I'm waiting for that, I'm going to try and get the motor fixed and > maybe find a quieter > blower. Can anyone point me to good info on how I might repair my motor? > I may try a shop like this one: > > http://www.hamilton-electric.com > > thanks! > > -ben > www.evalbum.com/4001 > > > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140929/f632930f/attachment.htm > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140930/662b607d/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] warp 9 has gone sparky sparky
I'll try again. I have not been able to post on the evdl for a year or so. Jeff M On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 2:18 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: On 29 Sep 2014 at 23:22, Roland via EV wrote: > hi_torue_electric@yahoo<mailto:hi_torue_electric@yahoo> Thanks Roland. However, I think that's supposed to be hi_torque_electric with a q and then you put the swirly symbol in and then you add yahoo and a dot and then the familiar com top level domain, where com does not stand for commutator. Sorry to be opaque, but the EVDL is archived in several different places, and I'm not sure that they all properly obfuscate email addresses. > > Jeff Majors is also very knowledgable about motors, but AFAIK he doesn't > service them. He might have some suggestions on how to tackle it yourself. Oops, that's Jeff Major, with no S. Sorry, it was a slip of the typing finger. I hope some of this helps with the motor. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140930/b878b3d1/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Lithium batteries direct from China
> > Marcus Reddish via EV wrote: > >> Are these the old white Thunder sky cells that failed? Seem to remember a > >> picture of them leaking. Is it possible folks charged those early cells > >> like they were lead and caused (or contributed to) the failures? I have > >> not heard of any bad "batch" since the white cells, which was ages ago. abut 10 years back we sold some White high power that looks like TS which seemed low quality but where abused by 2 of the 3 customers getting them The company did warranty them replacing about 1/4 by the time the warranty ran out . The larger the packs and the less amps used ( lower c pull) the better they did. > Willie2 via EV wrote: > > The situation Lee describes dates to 2000-2003? Something like that. I > > know nothing of the situation but I believe they were LCP cells. > > Starting about 2005, LFPs were the preferred cells for conversions. I > > know of no quality or delivery problems with ThunderSky LFPs. Willie has taken the good care of his pack . The best normal real world testing I've seen. Lee wrote > I'm forever hopeful that the manufacturers will "get their act together" > and start delivering an honest quality product, and stand behind them > with a warranty. But so far, if I'd spent good money for a full pack of > any of these batteries (except A123), I would have been screwed. I'm finding that as a given not all cells will live out there expected life . Even Willie has had a number of cells go bad (less than 10 ) , He bought extra's so we have been replacing them with the same batch over the last 9 years ( Has it really been that long?.) > > At the moment, I'm considering getting some Nissan Leaf cells to test. > I'm guessing that Nissan is likely to have made a *significant* effort > to get a good, quality product. I just have to make sure I'm not getting > Nissan's QC rejects! Didn't know you where testing so many cells , I just put 66 60 ah GBS 's in a BMW they seem to be doing good. time will tell, they are dishing out 5 c without the cell voltage dropping below 3v . > >recent > >ones were GBS 100ah LiFe cells, tested just last year. The only > >exception has been A123 3.2v 2.5ah LiFe cylindrical cells; they were > >consistently good. > From: EVDL Administrator > > I've continued to borrow, barter, and buy various lithiums for testing. > > Prismatics and cylindrical, LiCo, LiMn, LiFe etc. They haveon > > *consistently* failed to meet specs. > > http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2008/05/charge-keep > Love to see a picture of lee's set up . I've been lucky enough to get to drive William's Hyandia car from time to time .we recently did a capacity test while I was there working on his golf carts and was able to pull out 220 amp hours without the BMS alarming , then left the key on for several days, which then pulled the full rated 260ah out over the next few days . There were a few cells who's voltage had fallen down between 2.65 and 3 volts that said most where over 3 volts . Willie's strategy of having a large pack , about 40 kilowatt hours I believe has helped give him years of service . He has over 44,000 miles on the cars 48 cells. he also does a slow charge most of the time and equalizers with a 1 amp charger letting the mini BMS system bring all up to 3.6v. He may have about 400 cycles on them . Steve Clunn Merging the best of the past with the best of the future. www.Greenshedconversions.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] EVLN: Nissan e-NV200 EV gets a VIP makeover
http://www.worldcarfans.com/114092381654/nissan-e-nv200-gets-the-vip-treatment-for-hannover-motor
Nissan e-NV200 gets the VIP treatment for Hannover Motor Show
[20140923] By Adrian Padeanu Nissan
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Offers 670mm of legroom
Nissan is showcasing at the Hannover Motor Show an e-NV200 concept developed
as a VIP passenger shuttle.
Back in September 2012 we saw Nissan displaying the e-NV200 as a panel van
and now two years later at the same show they are exhibiting a VIP version
equipped with "Club Class" rear seats covered in white leather with blue
accents. These come with integrated seatbelts, armrests and extending leg
rests. Also in the back there's a 21.5-inch DSP monitor displaying images
and movies provided by the passenger's smartphone, tablet or laptop.
Rear passengers benefit from up to 670mm of legroom and between the seats
there's a central console featuring controls for the ambient lighting,
monitor and also providing access to a small fridge holding drinks. Up front
incorporated in the structure of the conventional rear view mirror is
Nissan's Smart Rear-View mirror which has an LCD monitor working with a
high-resolution camera mounted at the back of the car to provide a better
view of the traffic behind.
On the outside it wears a two-tone paint while power is provided by the same
Leaf-sourced electric motor rated at 109 HP (80 kW) and 280 Nm (206 lb-ft)
which works with a 48-volt lithium-ion battery pack.
According to Dany Boulenger, Nissan's Global Corporate Sales, Division
General Manager, some of the extra equipment installed on the e-NV200 VIP
concept could be offered as aftermarket conversions if there will be enough
demand.
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http://www.bmwblog.com/2014/09/24/installing-level-2-charger-electric-car/ Installing a Level 2 Charger for an electric car How-To | September 24th, 2014 by Chuck Vossler [image http://www.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/81hOYQDnUCL._SL1500_.jpg http://www.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/BMW-carport-03.jpg http://www.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/installing-electric-car-charger-9.jpg http://www.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/installing-electric-car-charger-14.jpg http://www.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/installing-electric-car-charger-8.jpg http://www.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/installing-electric-car-charger-3.jpg http://www.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/installing-electric-car-charger-1.jpg http://www.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/installing-electric-car-charger-2.jpg http://www.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/installing-electric-car-charger-19.jpg http://www.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/installing-electric-car-charger-16.jpg video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSXsyFsDVec BMW Designworks Solar Carport and BMW i Wallbox Pro bimmerblog May 3, 2014 As we reported on last November, BMW is rolling out their 360º Electric Program (http://www.bmwblog.com/2013/11/14/bmw...) to coincide with the launch of the BMW i cars. ] Ironically, it was easier to decide to purchase an all electric Solar Orange BMW i3 than it was to decide on which Level 2 Charger to buy. BMW sells a very nice looking charger, the BMW i Charging Station, for $1,080 and as with all other chargers installation is extra. However, it was the BMW Wallbox Pro which BMWBLOG reported on from the BMW i8 launch back in April that I really, really wanted. I was super excited about this particular one because we have a newly installed 12kW solar system in our house and I relished the idea of being able to program where the electricity was to come from to charge our Solar Orange i3. Sadly, this fantastic device is still not available and now word on when it will be. Installing a Level 2 Charger for an electric car So Many Options In The World Of EV Chargers When looking at an electric car charger, it helps to know a bit of the lingo. EV nuts are very particular about their verbiage. Though commonly called a Level 2 Charger, the proper term is Electric Vehicle Service Equipment (EVSE) because the actual AC to DC conversion occurs on board the EV itself. It will be hard to break the public of the habit of calling them Car Chargers, as that’s what manufacturers call them. Hitting on the basics of electricity supplies, in the United States a 110V is a common household plug, and 240V is what is used for household electric ovens, dryers and air conditioning units. A 240V outlet can charge an electric vehicle twice as fast as the 110V. A Level 1 Charger, which uses a household 110V current, is good when you are in a pinch – BMW even calls it an “occasional charger” so you get the hint that you need a Level 2 Charger. When it gets to where electricity meets the EV, the SAE J1772 Charging plug is standard for all electric vehicles except the Tesla cars which have a proprietary charging plug. Thanks Elon! Why Do I Need A Level 2 Charger? Installing a Level 2 Charger for an electric car Level 2 Units can charge up to 7.2 kW and pull 30A, and need to be installed on a 40A circuit with 8 gauge wire. There are DC chargers too but they are 480 volts and cost around $8,000. Thankfully the Rapid DC chargers are becoming more common at commercial charging sites on the East and West coast. The DC Charger, CHAdeMO aka a Level 3 Charger, can pump a stunning 62.5 kW of direct current right into the battery. On the BMW i3, it does require an optional $700 factory connector. I am told that this is factory installed only, if you don’t get it at manufacturing of your vehicle, you cannot retrofit it. There are more Level 2 Chargers available than I would have thought. See our table for the most popular ones out there. Charging StnBMW Bosch Bosch CCreek GE Siemens i EL51253 EL51254 HSC-40 WattVC30BLK Amperage30A 30A 30A 32A 30A 30A Cable Length25' 18' 25' 25' 18' 20' Output Power7.2kW 7.2kW 7.2kW 7.7kW 7.2kW 7.2kW Self Contained Yes Yes Yes No Yes Yes Cost$1080 $571$737$590$599$799 BMW i Charging station is 30-40% more expensive than all the other units, so it was immediately at a disadvantage. As Bosch is the manufacturer of BMW’s i Charging Station, I was immediately drawn to it. Bosch’s charger is a much smaller unit with a center holster that docs the J177A Charging Plug. The unit is available with a 18 ft or a 25 ft long cord. The Siemens unit has a very German efficient layout while the GE one looks just like the one that Porsche uses for their plug-in hybrid cars. There’s also a very robust unit from Clipper Creek, the HSC-40 but I didn’t like the lack of contained pl
