Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[Bruno Marchal]

> On 2 Aug 2020, at 05:27, Russell Standish  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Aug 02, 2020 at 11:16:00AM +1000, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
>> 
>> I think we started congratulating ourselves too early. As you know, things 
>> are
>> not so great in Victoria.
> 
> Indeed, we're not out of the woods yet.

No one is. That virus is a serious crap. And the longer we take to defeat it 
makes higher the probability that he evolves.
The “human factor” clearly does not help here.

Bruno


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Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[Russell Standish]

On Sun, Aug 02, 2020 at 11:16:00AM +1000, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
> 
> I think we started congratulating ourselves too early. As you know, things are
> not so great in Victoria.

Indeed, we're not out of the woods yet.


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Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[Stathis Papaioannou]

On Sat, 1 Aug 2020 at 09:16, Russell Standish  wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 07:42:28PM +, spudboy100 via Everything List
> wrote:
> > Yeah, I am sure the competent hand of Joe Biden will solve
> everything...   You
> > haven't cited what Germany and Australia are doing differently than the
> US
> > either. Can you please list what these lands are doing so well?
>
> I think in Australia's case, our "Trump mini-me" government finally
> grew a brain and listened to the health experts, after their total
> mishandling of the bushfire debacle over summer.
>
> It also helps that we're a little more likely accept restrictions for
> the sake of the common good than our American friends. Not as much as
> some Asian cultures, though.
>
> And finally, being an "island continent" makes it easier to shut our
> borders and control who comes into the country.


I think we started congratulating ourselves too early. As you know, things
are not so great in Victoria.

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Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

Alan, just go ahead, and block me, for Christ's sake. You dish it out but can't 
take it, like the study indicated. Your peeps burn the streets and spread 
corona but that is ok? Meh! and Bye.


-Original Message-
From: Alan Grayson 
To: Everything List 
Sent: Sat, Aug 1, 2020 8:19 pm
Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

GFY.

On Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 5:47:27 PM UTC-6, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
Actually Alan, your comment proves what a study last year indicated, that 
dedicated ideologists (they measured libs) are immensely intolerant of any 
opposing pov, ao I kind of expected this because it goes against the holy 
"narrative." You want to pretend, Team dem is magically virtuous? Indeed, plow 
on ahead.  


-Original Message-
From: Alan Grayson 
To: Everything List 
Sent: Sat, Aug 1, 2020 1:09 am
Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

I won't continue discussing politics with a right wing retard. If republicans 
in the Senate want to take the weekend off without dealing with the dire issues 
at hand, they deserve to see their courts burn. AG

On Friday, July 31, 2020 at 1:38:48 PM UTC-6, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
Choke holds out are ok with me, now will the local dems cease and desist crime, 
murder & arson in their zones? Look to Lighfoot as an eample.


-Original Message-
From: Alan Grayson 
To: Everything List 
Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 9:48 pm
Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

If the republican Senate can't illegalize choke holds, maybe it's time to burn 
down a few federal courts to send a message. AG

On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 4:40:38 PM UTC-6, spudb...@aol.com wrote:

Its happening everywhere the democrats run the center cities, everywhere. Not 
just Chicago, or Detroit, but everywhere the dem klan rules. Team dem is good 
with fire and smoke, and perhaps unless your are involved with the DNC Planning 
Committee (?) the dems at governor and city level are doing what appeal to the 
democrat voter. Alinsky's Rule 6Rule 6: A good tactic is one your people enjoy. 
"If your people aren't having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong 
with the tactic."
Rule 8: Keep the pressure on. Use different tactics and actions and use all 
events of the period for your purpose. "The major premise for tactics is the 
development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the 
opposition. It is this that will cause the opposition to react to your 
advantage."
Orange Man didn't fall for the DNC Kent State/Jackson State replay of May 1970. 
Dude's quite calculating indeed!

-Original Message-
From: Alan Grayson 
To: Everything List 
Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 4:21 pm
Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

You've been drinking the kool-aid. I've never heard one democratic politician 
advocating violence. Not one; never. Yet you claim to be a mind reader, by 
referencing radical Black Panthers of the 1960's as if that represents the BLM. 
Democrats know that violence will discredit the BLM movement. You want to do a 
broad-brush denigration of a righteous movement. There are always fringe 
elements that want violence, but it's people like you who buy Trump's BS and 
support depriving the vast majority of Americans their First Amendment rights, 
as what happened in Lafayette Square a few weeks ago. It was patently obvious 
that the unmarked police were inciting violence. I saw it as it was happening! 
If DiBlasio isn't doing enough in NYC to curtail violence, he should be called 
out for it. But this isn't what you're doing. Did it ever occur to you, that 
there would be less violence if the republicans in the Senate would pass a 
police reform bill, but they refuse even to outlaw the choke hold? Neither does 
Trump endorse it. AG
On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 1:47:24 PM UTC-6, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
Alan, especially relying on mere words, over rational actions, (we're talking 
95% lawyers who are politicians here) we can see the policy is. It's a rehash 
of the Eldridge Cleaver's statement of "Burn Baby Burn!," circa 1965 Watts and 
Detroit "race: riots. I do remember LA 1992 Riot Fan and provocateur, Rep 
Maxine Waters, saying similar things last week. When Orange Man says things 
like "beautiful," I smile and nod because, just because we all were born upon a 
night, it wasn't last night. Not standing up to people (say, DiBlasio) 
arresting arsonists and looters on the spot, speaks intent, even, repeated 
across every democratic party zone (Portland, Seattle, Minneapolis, NYC, 
Louisville, LA, Denver..etc). The kind of lying about intent was also seen 
60-70 years ago during the genuine civil rights marches and integration, Favus, 
George Wallace, oh, yes and democratic party KKK Kleagle, Senator Robert Byrd 
from West Virginia. If you need me to

Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[Alan Grayson]

GFY.

On Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 5:47:27 PM UTC-6, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Actually Alan, your comment proves what a study last year indicated, that 
> dedicated ideologists (they measured libs) are immensely intolerant of any 
> opposing pov, ao I kind of expected this because it goes against the holy 
> "narrative." You want to pretend, Team dem is magically virtuous? Indeed, 
> plow on ahead.  
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan Grayson >
> To: Everything List >
> Sent: Sat, Aug 1, 2020 1:09 am
> Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election
>
> I won't continue discussing politics with a right wing retard. If 
> republicans in the Senate want to take the weekend off without dealing with 
> the dire issues at hand, they deserve to see their courts burn. AG
>
> On Friday, July 31, 2020 at 1:38:48 PM UTC-6, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Choke holds out are ok with me, now will the local dems cease and desist 
> crime, murder & arson in their zones? Look to Lighfoot as an eample.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan Grayson 
> To: Everything List 
> Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 9:48 pm
> Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election
>
> If the republican Senate can't illegalize choke holds, maybe it's time to 
> burn down a few federal courts to send a message. AG
>
> On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 4:40:38 PM UTC-6, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
>
>
> Its happening everywhere the democrats run the center cities, everywhere. 
> Not just Chicago, or Detroit, but everywhere the dem klan rules. Team dem 
> is good with fire and smoke, and perhaps unless your are involved with the 
> DNC Planning Committee (?) the dems at governor and city level are doing 
> what appeal to the democrat voter.  
> Alinsky's Rule 6
> *Rule 6*: A good tactic is one your people enjoy. "If your people aren't 
> having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong with the tactic."
>
> *Rule 8*: Keep the pressure on. Use different tactics and actions and use 
> all events of the period for your purpose. "The major premise for tactics 
> is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure 
> upon the opposition. It is this that will cause the opposition to react to 
> your advantage."
>
> Orange Man didn't fall for the DNC Kent State/Jackson State replay of May 
> 1970. Dude's quite calculating indeed!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan Grayson 
> To: Everything List 
> Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 4:21 pm
> Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election
>
> You've been drinking the kool-aid. I've never heard one democratic 
> politician advocating violence. Not one; never. Yet you claim to be a mind 
> reader, by referencing radical Black Panthers of the 1960's as if that 
> represents the BLM. Democrats know that violence will discredit the BLM 
> movement. You want to do a broad-brush denigration of a righteous movement. 
> There are always fringe elements that want violence, but it's people like 
> you who buy Trump's BS and support depriving the vast majority of Americans 
> their First Amendment rights, as what happened in Lafayette Square a few 
> weeks ago. It was patently obvious that the unmarked police were inciting 
> violence. I saw it as it was happening! If DiBlasio isn't doing enough in 
> NYC to curtail violence, he should be called out for it. But this isn't 
> what you're doing. Did it ever occur to you, that there would be less 
> violence if the republicans in the Senate would pass a police reform bill, 
> but they refuse even to outlaw the choke hold? Neither does Trump endorse 
> it. AG 
>
> On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 1:47:24 PM UTC-6, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Alan, especially relying on mere words, over rational actions, (we're 
> talking 95% lawyers who are politicians here) we can see the policy is. 
> It's a rehash of the Eldridge Cleaver's statement of "Burn Baby Burn!," 
> circa 1965 Watts and Detroit "race: riots. I do remember LA 1992 Riot Fan 
> and provocateur, Rep Maxine Waters, saying similar things last week. When 
> Orange Man says things like "beautiful," I smile and nod because, just 
> because we all were born upon a night, it wasn't last night. Not standing 
> up to people (say, DiBlasio) arresting arsonists and looters on the spot, 
> speaks intent, even, repeated across every democratic party zone (Portland, 
> Seattle, Minneapolis, NYC, Louisville, LA, Denver..etc). The kind of lying 
> about intent was also seen 60-70 years ago during the genuine civil rights 
> marches and integration, Favus, George Wallace

Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

One chunk of assertions at a a time, Bruno, for you are dealing with a mere 
mortal, and a working one, this night. On the love-affair that many Muslims 
have with the old nazis, yeah, they liked the guy as we both know. It was a 
selling point by the 3rd Reich against the British and French ruling Iraq, 
Syria, Algeria, Morocco, Egypt, Tunisia (Mussolini held Libya), and they both 
worked it as successful propaganda."No more Moussier, No more Mister,In heaven 
AllahOn earth, Hitler."
Back to The orange man
We have most of the billionaires funding the democrats for decades, do you not 
wonder if these people do not ask for something in return? If you need a list 
of each side funding whom, please consider looking at the website 
OpenSecrets.org, it appears to be non-partisan, but who knows. Follow the 
money, Professor.  


-Original Message-
From: Bruno Marchal 
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sat, Aug 1, 2020 8:25 am
Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election



On 31 Jul 2020, at 21:50, spudboy100 via Everything List 
 wrote:
No they haven't Bruno. Dems are closed mouthed regarding riots looting arson. 
It is all happening in their cities, it it tolerated, at least, if not 
endorsed. 


Really? That contradicts my information. If you have a link to some paper or 
videos assessing what you say, I would be pleased.
What I see is that the democrats and most (non Trumpian) republicans sids with 
the peaceful protesters. All states condemned the looters, but they are 
unavoidable in any big manifestation, also in my country, and even more in 
France. 
My feeling is that those looters are pro-Trump, or pro-chaos, and they try to 
delegitimised, like the antiracists (which are racists of course), the" black 
live matter” movement, by looting and infiltrating them.
Concerning Portland, the “police” has clearly systematically threatened and 
egressed the peaceful people, as we can see on many videos, from different 
angles, and at different places. 
Trump has given 8 recent phones by Putin, and he is clearly trying to demolish 
the (old) American democracy by the same technic used by Putin to kill the 
birth of democracy in Russia. That is real bad new for Americans, but also for 
Russians and for all democracies in the world.
Everyone sees what Trump is doing. The problem is the international bandits, 
who use Trump to protect themselves, and fix people realise how powerful they 
are. If Trump and Barr are not removed before November, he will “win” the 
election, by cheating of course, like he did, as this is rather clear from 
Mueller reports if not by what Trump already said himself during its 2016 
campaign.
Bruno



All democrats politicians have condemned the violence in the street. In 
Portland we have seen many videos showing that “police” attacked the peaceful 
protesters, and provoked them. It was an operation of the type “adding oil on 
the fire”.The very look of that “police”, and the way they acted is quite 
worrisome. Doubly so when it comes from a guy who has been mean with almost all 
leaders of a democracy, and never about Putin, MBS (Saudi), Young, … Trump is 
fighting against the Democracies and against the US constitution.



-Original Message-
From: Bruno Marchal 
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, Jul 31, 2020 7:52 am
Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election



On 30 Jul 2020, at 20:33, spudboy100 via Everything List 
 wrote:
Eh! Derangement syndrome again. Yet, its democrat politicians encouraging the 
Vanguard of the Proletariat to burn and loot your center cities, to say, damage 
the economy, so orange man won't be elected.

?
All democrats politicians have condemned the violence in the street. In 
Portland we have seen many videos showing that “police” attacked the peaceful 
protesters, and provoked them. It was an operation of the type “adding oil on 
the fire”.The very look of that “police”, and the way they acted is quite 
worrisome. Doubly so when it comes from a guy who has been mean with almost all 
leaders of a democracy, and never about Putin, MBS (Saudi), Young, … Trump is 
fighting against the Democracies and against the US constitution.




 There is strong evidence of mail ballots mysteriously gone missing, so I doubt 
if the members of the postal union can be trusted to deliver ballots.

They should use e-mails. That is the safer, both for the health of people, and 
it is easier to make most people voting, and voting only once. I am not sure 
why they don’t do that.




 What I suspect is that beyond legal challenges that are sure to occur, 
whomever appears to win. Thus, what was the US will descend into open civil 
conflict. It's not about the orange real estate dude, it's about the rest of 
us. For instance, I am not a social conservative at all. I hold that your Alcor 
bet might be a smart one, or that your estimation that humanity  will cause the 
development of Matrioshka 

Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

Actually Alan, your comment proves what a study last year indicated, that 
dedicated ideologists (they measured libs) are immensely intolerant of any 
opposing pov, ao I kind of expected this because it goes against the holy 
"narrative." You want to pretend, Team dem is magically virtuous? Indeed, plow 
on ahead.  


-Original Message-
From: Alan Grayson 
To: Everything List 
Sent: Sat, Aug 1, 2020 1:09 am
Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

I won't continue discussing politics with a right wing retard. If republicans 
in the Senate want to take the weekend off without dealing with the dire issues 
at hand, they deserve to see their courts burn. AG

On Friday, July 31, 2020 at 1:38:48 PM UTC-6, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
Choke holds out are ok with me, now will the local dems cease and desist crime, 
murder & arson in their zones? Look to Lighfoot as an eample.


-Original Message-
From: Alan Grayson 
To: Everything List 
Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 9:48 pm
Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

If the republican Senate can't illegalize choke holds, maybe it's time to burn 
down a few federal courts to send a message. AG

On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 4:40:38 PM UTC-6, spudb...@aol.com wrote:

Its happening everywhere the democrats run the center cities, everywhere. Not 
just Chicago, or Detroit, but everywhere the dem klan rules. Team dem is good 
with fire and smoke, and perhaps unless your are involved with the DNC Planning 
Committee (?) the dems at governor and city level are doing what appeal to the 
democrat voter. Alinsky's Rule 6Rule 6: A good tactic is one your people enjoy. 
"If your people aren't having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong 
with the tactic."
Rule 8: Keep the pressure on. Use different tactics and actions and use all 
events of the period for your purpose. "The major premise for tactics is the 
development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the 
opposition. It is this that will cause the opposition to react to your 
advantage."
Orange Man didn't fall for the DNC Kent State/Jackson State replay of May 1970. 
Dude's quite calculating indeed!

-Original Message-
From: Alan Grayson 
To: Everything List 
Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 4:21 pm
Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

You've been drinking the kool-aid. I've never heard one democratic politician 
advocating violence. Not one; never. Yet you claim to be a mind reader, by 
referencing radical Black Panthers of the 1960's as if that represents the BLM. 
Democrats know that violence will discredit the BLM movement. You want to do a 
broad-brush denigration of a righteous movement. There are always fringe 
elements that want violence, but it's people like you who buy Trump's BS and 
support depriving the vast majority of Americans their First Amendment rights, 
as what happened in Lafayette Square a few weeks ago. It was patently obvious 
that the unmarked police were inciting violence. I saw it as it was happening! 
If DiBlasio isn't doing enough in NYC to curtail violence, he should be called 
out for it. But this isn't what you're doing. Did it ever occur to you, that 
there would be less violence if the republicans in the Senate would pass a 
police reform bill, but they refuse even to outlaw the choke hold? Neither does 
Trump endorse it. AG
On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 1:47:24 PM UTC-6, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
Alan, especially relying on mere words, over rational actions, (we're talking 
95% lawyers who are politicians here) we can see the policy is. It's a rehash 
of the Eldridge Cleaver's statement of "Burn Baby Burn!," circa 1965 Watts and 
Detroit "race: riots. I do remember LA 1992 Riot Fan and provocateur, Rep 
Maxine Waters, saying similar things last week. When Orange Man says things 
like "beautiful," I smile and nod because, just because we all were born upon a 
night, it wasn't last night. Not standing up to people (say, DiBlasio) 
arresting arsonists and looters on the spot, speaks intent, even, repeated 
across every democratic party zone (Portland, Seattle, Minneapolis, NYC, 
Louisville, LA, Denver..etc). The kind of lying about intent was also seen 
60-70 years ago during the genuine civil rights marches and integration, Favus, 
George Wallace, oh, yes and democratic party KKK Kleagle, Senator Robert Byrd 
from West Virginia. If you need me to, I can look up some dem statements 
endorsing or sympathizing with rioters, looters, arsonists, and now terrorists 
(Smells like Weatherman Faction SDS, Symbionese Liberation Army revived, also 
Black Panthers). I do wonder what Bruno will think when we start breaking 
apart? Will he have expected this, from such "crazy Ami's," or will it be a 
shock? Interesting, huh?
-Original Message-
From: Alan Gra

Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

Russell, your fellow academics tell us different, often conflicting things, 
regarding the Wuhan flu, regarding Climate? For example, the WHO first 
indicated that masking won't deter the Wuhan flu, then it became apparent, that 
it appeared to reduce transmissions of the virus. When the experts fail us, 
what do you want Joe Sixpack to do (you do have joe sixpack in Aus don't you)? 
When you were having the Big Fire, I was thinking, well, there was a big study 
if the IEA is Oct 1, 2019 that indicated there was available, some 18 times the 
2018 global production of all kinds of energy electrical & motive, in ocean 
water "winds," so why not use this to desalinate the ocean water (wind power) 
push it to the Aus brush and treelands, and spritz the waters to prevent the 
firestorms? We have same issue in Cali and the cheapest solution was always 
clear cutting patches of brush and forest, thus, new fires were prevented. The 
greens in Cali have avoided this for over 20 years and so far, they now have 
firestorms, once of twice per year. If hydro works it works, and if it doesn't 
it doesn't. The best results for hydro have been, hydro to make the affected 
cells permeable, use zinc to get it into the cells because the zinc prevents 
the virus from propagating, and zythromax, to fight any secondary bacterial 
opportunistic inventions, If it doesn't work, whether Orange Man throws a 
tantrum, nobody should care. If he is accurate, same thing. 


-Original Message-
From: Russell Standish 
To: spudboy100 via Everything List 
Cc: johnkcl...@gmail.com 
Sent: Fri, Jul 31, 2020 7:16 pm
Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 07:42:28PM +, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
> Yeah, I am sure the competent hand of Joe Biden will solve everything...  You
> haven't cited what Germany and Australia are doing differently than the US
> either. Can you please list what these lands are doing so well?  

I think in Australia's case, our "Trump mini-me" government finally
grew a brain and listened to the health experts, after their total
mishandling of the bushfire debacle over summer.

It also helps that we're a little more likely accept restrictions for
the sake of the common good than our American friends. Not as much as
some Asian cultures, though.

And finally, being an "island continent" makes it easier to shut our
borders and control who comes into the country.

Cheers
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Principal, High Performance Coders    hpco...@hpcoders.com.au
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Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[Lawrence Crowell]

At a certain point people display how their minds have, as Robert Burns put 
it, gone "gang oft aglay." Political diatribes, with claims of sources not 
revealed, and defense of questionable science and health theory, leave me 
no option but to drop such a person from communication. I don't go there, 
even in opposition to these types of people.

LC

On Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 7:25:06 AM UTC-5 Bruno Marchal wrote:

> On 31 Jul 2020, at 21:50, spudboy100 via Everything List <
> everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> No they haven't Bruno. Dems are closed mouthed regarding riots looting 
> arson. It is all happening in their cities, it it tolerated, at least, if 
> not endorsed. 
>
>
> Really? That contradicts my information. If you have a link to some paper 
> or videos assessing what you say, I would be pleased.
>
> What I see is that the democrats and most (non Trumpian) republicans sids 
> with the peaceful protesters. All states condemned the looters, but they 
> are unavoidable in any big manifestation, also in my country, and even more 
> in France. 
>
> My feeling is that those looters are pro-Trump, or pro-chaos, and they try 
> to delegitimised, like the antiracists (which are racists of course), the" 
> black live matter” movement, by looting and infiltrating them.
>
> Concerning Portland, the “police” has clearly systematically threatened 
> and egressed the peaceful people, as we can see on many videos, from 
> different angles, and at different places. 
>
> Trump has given 8 recent phones by Putin, and he is clearly trying to 
> demolish the (old) American democracy by the same technic used by Putin to 
> kill the birth of democracy in Russia. That is real bad new for Americans, 
> but also for Russians and for all democracies in the world.
>
> Everyone sees what Trump is doing. The problem is the international 
> bandits, who use Trump to protect themselves, and fix people realise how 
> powerful they are. If Trump and Barr are not removed before November, he 
> will “win” the election, by cheating of course, like he did, as this is 
> rather clear from Mueller reports if not by what Trump already said himself 
> during its 2016 campaign.
>
> Bruno
>
>
> All democrats politicians have condemned the violence in the street. In 
> Portland we have seen many videos showing that “police” attacked the 
> peaceful protesters, and provoked them. It was an operation of the type 
> “adding oil on the fire”.
> The very look of that “police”, and the way they acted is quite worrisome. 
> Doubly so when it comes from a guy who has been mean with almost all 
> leaders of a democracy, and never about Putin, MBS (Saudi), Young, … Trump 
> is fighting against the Democracies and against the US constitution.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bruno Marchal 
> To: everyth...@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Fri, Jul 31, 2020 7:52 am
> Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election
>
>
> On 30 Jul 2020, at 20:33, spudboy100 via Everything List <
> everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Eh! Derangement syndrome again. Yet, its democrat politicians encouraging 
> the Vanguard of the Proletariat to burn and loot your center cities, to 
> say, damage the economy, so orange man won't be elected.
>
>
> ?
>
> All democrats politicians have condemned the violence in the street. In 
> Portland we have seen many videos showing that “police” attacked the 
> peaceful protesters, and provoked them. It was an operation of the type 
> “adding oil on the fire”.
> The very look of that “police”, and the way they acted is quite worrisome. 
> Doubly so when it comes from a guy who has been mean with almost all 
> leaders of a democracy, and never about Putin, MBS (Saudi), Young, … Trump 
> is fighting against the Democracies and against the US constitution.
>
>
>
>
> There is strong evidence of mail ballots mysteriously gone missing, so I 
> doubt if the members of the postal union can be trusted to deliver ballots.
>
>
> They should use e-mails. That is the safer, both for the health of people, 
> and it is easier to make most people voting, and voting only once. I am not 
> sure why they don’t do that.
>
>
>
>
> What I suspect is that beyond legal challenges that are sure to occur, 
> whomever appears to win. Thus, what was the US will descend into open civil 
> conflict. It's not about the orange real estate dude, it's about the rest 
> of us. For instance, I am not a social conservative at all. I hold that 
> your Alcor bet might be a smart one, or that your estimation that humanity  
> will cause the development of Matrioshka brains, eventually, accurate. As 
> of now, the

Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[Bruno Marchal]

> On 31 Jul 2020, at 21:50, spudboy100 via Everything List 
>  wrote:
> 
> No they haven't Bruno. Dems are closed mouthed regarding riots looting arson. 
> It is all happening in their cities, it it tolerated, at least, if not 
> endorsed. 

Really? That contradicts my information. If you have a link to some paper or 
videos assessing what you say, I would be pleased.

What I see is that the democrats and most (non Trumpian) republicans sids with 
the peaceful protesters. All states condemned the looters, but they are 
unavoidable in any big manifestation, also in my country, and even more in 
France. 

My feeling is that those looters are pro-Trump, or pro-chaos, and they try to 
delegitimised, like the antiracists (which are racists of course), the" black 
live matter” movement, by looting and infiltrating them.

Concerning Portland, the “police” has clearly systematically threatened and 
egressed the peaceful people, as we can see on many videos, from different 
angles, and at different places. 

Trump has given 8 recent phones by Putin, and he is clearly trying to demolish 
the (old) American democracy by the same technic used by Putin to kill the 
birth of democracy in Russia. That is real bad new for Americans, but also for 
Russians and for all democracies in the world.

Everyone sees what Trump is doing. The problem is the international bandits, 
who use Trump to protect themselves, and fix people realise how powerful they 
are. If Trump and Barr are not removed before November, he will “win” the 
election, by cheating of course, like he did, as this is rather clear from 
Mueller reports if not by what Trump already said himself during its 2016 
campaign.

Bruno


> All democrats politicians have condemned the violence in the street. In 
> Portland we have seen many videos showing that “police” attacked the peaceful 
> protesters, and provoked them. It was an operation of the type “adding oil on 
> the fire”.
> The very look of that “police”, and the way they acted is quite worrisome. 
> Doubly so when it comes from a guy who has been mean with almost all leaders 
> of a democracy, and never about Putin, MBS (Saudi), Young, … Trump is 
> fighting against the Democracies and against the US constitution.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bruno Marchal 
> To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Fri, Jul 31, 2020 7:52 am
> Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election
> 
> 
>> On 30 Jul 2020, at 20:33, spudboy100 via Everything List 
>> mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Eh! Derangement syndrome again. Yet, its democrat politicians encouraging 
>> the Vanguard of the Proletariat to burn and loot your center cities, to say, 
>> damage the economy, so orange man won't be elected.
> 
> ?
> 
> All democrats politicians have condemned the violence in the street. In 
> Portland we have seen many videos showing that “police” attacked the peaceful 
> protesters, and provoked them. It was an operation of the type “adding oil on 
> the fire”.
> The very look of that “police”, and the way they acted is quite worrisome. 
> Doubly so when it comes from a guy who has been mean with almost all leaders 
> of a democracy, and never about Putin, MBS (Saudi), Young, … Trump is 
> fighting against the Democracies and against the US constitution.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> There is strong evidence of mail ballots mysteriously gone missing, so I 
>> doubt if the members of the postal union can be trusted to deliver ballots.
> 
> They should use e-mails. That is the safer, both for the health of people, 
> and it is easier to make most people voting, and voting only once. I am not 
> sure why they don’t do that.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> What I suspect is that beyond legal challenges that are sure to occur, 
>> whomever appears to win. Thus, what was the US will descend into open civil 
>> conflict. It's not about the orange real estate dude, it's about the rest of 
>> us. For instance, I am not a social conservative at all. I hold that your 
>> Alcor bet might be a smart one, or that your estimation that humanity  will 
>> cause the development of Matrioshka brains, eventually, accurate. As of now, 
>> the Vanguard Proles are causing discouragement with the archetypal Hillary 
>> voter (2016) and causing a drop out for Biden, (Kamala) because they really 
>> don't wish BLM-Antifa governance. Since the police pulled out of the 
>> Millwaukee convention, I suspect that NOI's Fruit of Islam will do the 
>> policing there. Call it  a precursor. 
> 
> I agree that the left is blind on “islamism” coming from the Middle East, 
> which is not islam, but comes directly from the German nazi propaganda, a

Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[Alan Grayson]

I won't continue discussing politics with a right wing retard. If 
republicans in the Senate want to take the weekend off without dealing with 
the dire issues at hand, they deserve to see their courts burn. AG

On Friday, July 31, 2020 at 1:38:48 PM UTC-6, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Choke holds out are ok with me, now will the local dems cease and desist 
> crime, murder & arson in their zones? Look to Lighfoot as an eample.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan Grayson >
> To: Everything List >
> Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 9:48 pm
> Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election
>
> If the republican Senate can't illegalize choke holds, maybe it's time to 
> burn down a few federal courts to send a message. AG
>
> On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 4:40:38 PM UTC-6, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
>
>
> Its happening everywhere the democrats run the center cities, everywhere. 
> Not just Chicago, or Detroit, but everywhere the dem klan rules. Team dem 
> is good with fire and smoke, and perhaps unless your are involved with the 
> DNC Planning Committee (?) the dems at governor and city level are doing 
> what appeal to the democrat voter.  
> Alinsky's Rule 6
> *Rule 6*: A good tactic is one your people enjoy. "If your people aren't 
> having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong with the tactic."
>
> *Rule 8*: Keep the pressure on. Use different tactics and actions and use 
> all events of the period for your purpose. "The major premise for tactics 
> is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure 
> upon the opposition. It is this that will cause the opposition to react to 
> your advantage."
>
> Orange Man didn't fall for the DNC Kent State/Jackson State replay of May 
> 1970. Dude's quite calculating indeed!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan Grayson 
> To: Everything List 
> Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 4:21 pm
> Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election
>
> You've been drinking the kool-aid. I've never heard one democratic 
> politician advocating violence. Not one; never. Yet you claim to be a mind 
> reader, by referencing radical Black Panthers of the 1960's as if that 
> represents the BLM. Democrats know that violence will discredit the BLM 
> movement. You want to do a broad-brush denigration of a righteous movement. 
> There are always fringe elements that want violence, but it's people like 
> you who buy Trump's BS and support depriving the vast majority of Americans 
> their First Amendment rights, as what happened in Lafayette Square a few 
> weeks ago. It was patently obvious that the unmarked police were inciting 
> violence. I saw it as it was happening! If DiBlasio isn't doing enough in 
> NYC to curtail violence, he should be called out for it. But this isn't 
> what you're doing. Did it ever occur to you, that there would be less 
> violence if the republicans in the Senate would pass a police reform bill, 
> but they refuse even to outlaw the choke hold? Neither does Trump endorse 
> it. AG 
>
> On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 1:47:24 PM UTC-6, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Alan, especially relying on mere words, over rational actions, (we're 
> talking 95% lawyers who are politicians here) we can see the policy is. 
> It's a rehash of the Eldridge Cleaver's statement of "Burn Baby Burn!," 
> circa 1965 Watts and Detroit "race: riots. I do remember LA 1992 Riot Fan 
> and provocateur, Rep Maxine Waters, saying similar things last week. When 
> Orange Man says things like "beautiful," I smile and nod because, just 
> because we all were born upon a night, it wasn't last night. Not standing 
> up to people (say, DiBlasio) arresting arsonists and looters on the spot, 
> speaks intent, even, repeated across every democratic party zone (Portland, 
> Seattle, Minneapolis, NYC, Louisville, LA, Denver..etc). The kind of lying 
> about intent was also seen 60-70 years ago during the genuine civil rights 
> marches and integration, Favus, George Wallace, oh, yes and democratic 
> party KKK Kleagle, Senator Robert Byrd from West Virginia. If you need me 
> to, I can look up some dem statements endorsing or sympathizing with 
> rioters, looters, arsonists, and now terrorists (Smells like Weatherman 
> Faction SDS, Symbionese Liberation Army revived, also Black Panthers). I do 
> wonder what Bruno will think when we start breaking apart? Will he have 
> expected this, from such "crazy Ami's," or will it be a shock? Interesting, 
> huh?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan Grayson 
> To: Everything List 
> Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 2:53 pm
&

Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[Russell Standish]

On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 07:42:28PM +, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
> Yeah, I am sure the competent hand of Joe Biden will solve everything...   You
> haven't cited what Germany and Australia are doing differently than the US
> either. Can you please list what these lands are doing so well?  

I think in Australia's case, our "Trump mini-me" government finally
grew a brain and listened to the health experts, after their total
mishandling of the bushfire debacle over summer.

It also helps that we're a little more likely accept restrictions for
the sake of the common good than our American friends. Not as much as
some Asian cultures, though.

And finally, being an "island continent" makes it easier to shut our
borders and control who comes into the country.

Cheers
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Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

No they haven't Bruno. Dems are closed mouthed regarding riots looting arson. 
It is all happening in their cities, it it tolerated, at least, if not 
endorsed. 

All democrats politicians have condemned the violence in the street. In 
Portland we have seen many videos showing that “police” attacked the peaceful 
protesters, and provoked them. It was an operation of the type “adding oil on 
the fire”.The very look of that “police”, and the way they acted is quite 
worrisome. Doubly so when it comes from a guy who has been mean with almost all 
leaders of a democracy, and never about Putin, MBS (Saudi), Young, … Trump is 
fighting against the Democracies and against the US constitution.



-Original Message-
From: Bruno Marchal 
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, Jul 31, 2020 7:52 am
Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election



On 30 Jul 2020, at 20:33, spudboy100 via Everything List 
 wrote:
Eh! Derangement syndrome again. Yet, its democrat politicians encouraging the 
Vanguard of the Proletariat to burn and loot your center cities, to say, damage 
the economy, so orange man won't be elected.

?
All democrats politicians have condemned the violence in the street. In 
Portland we have seen many videos showing that “police” attacked the peaceful 
protesters, and provoked them. It was an operation of the type “adding oil on 
the fire”.The very look of that “police”, and the way they acted is quite 
worrisome. Doubly so when it comes from a guy who has been mean with almost all 
leaders of a democracy, and never about Putin, MBS (Saudi), Young, … Trump is 
fighting against the Democracies and against the US constitution.




 There is strong evidence of mail ballots mysteriously gone missing, so I doubt 
if the members of the postal union can be trusted to deliver ballots.

They should use e-mails. That is the safer, both for the health of people, and 
it is easier to make most people voting, and voting only once. I am not sure 
why they don’t do that.




 What I suspect is that beyond legal challenges that are sure to occur, 
whomever appears to win. Thus, what was the US will descend into open civil 
conflict. It's not about the orange real estate dude, it's about the rest of 
us. For instance, I am not a social conservative at all. I hold that your Alcor 
bet might be a smart one, or that your estimation that humanity  will cause the 
development of Matrioshka brains, eventually, accurate. As of now, the Vanguard 
Proles are causing discouragement with the archetypal Hillary voter (2016) and 
causing a drop out for Biden, (Kamala) because they really don't wish 
BLM-Antifa governance. Since the police pulled out of the Millwaukee 
convention, I suspect that NOI's Fruit of Islam will do the policing there. 
Call it  a precursor. 


I agree that the left is blind on “islamism” coming from the Middle East, which 
is not islam, but comes directly from the German nazi propaganda, and the fact 
the Europeans and Americans after the WW II have subtracted Al Husseini and the 
Muslim Brotherhood from the Nuremberg trial. The conflict in the Middle-East is 
a conflict agains nazis, not again Islam nor again Arabs. Here the left is very 
often blind, and more homophobia, antisemite, etc,  than the right. I agree 
that Trumps politics is better (for the poor) than the left one. But the way 
Trump implement it makes it hard for the latinos and the black, and the 
consumer of medications, to get any of the benefits, and Trump seems to work 
hard to add chaos and to generate a civil war, if only to distract us from the 
rest, and keep his (authoritarian) power. Trump is both a con artist and a 
pervert narcissist. He is, Imo, extremely dangerous. He is shifting the 
left-right debate into an extremist-moderate fight. 
Bruno




-Original Message-
From: John Clark 
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 9:56 am
Subject: Trump suggests delaying the election

Trump just Tweeted:
"With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will 
be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great 
embarrassment to the USA, Delay the Election until people can properly, 
securely and safely vote???"

Trump floats delaying election despite lack of authority to do so

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[spudboy100 via Everything List]

Yeah, I am sure the competent hand of Joe Biden will solve everything...   You 
haven't cited what Germany and Australia are doing differently than the US 
either. Can you please list what these lands are doing so well?  


-Original Message-
From: John Clark 
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, Jul 31, 2020 5:31 am
Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 6:34 PM Mr. Spudboy via Everything List 
 wrote:


> I have to note is that democrat mayors and governors are letting their cities 
> burn, and doing mostly nothing. [...] Are there riots, arson, and mayhem, yes 
> or no?
 Mr. Spudboy, you need to keep things in perspective. All the "riots arson and 
mayhem" from all the "democrat mayors and governors letting their cities burn" 
produced a grand total of 2 deaths, meanwhile Trump's astoundingly incompetent 
response to the COVID-19 pandemic has so far killed 155,285 Americans and the 
numbers are growing fast; yesterday alone 1,465 died. As of today you'd need 
77,643 more riots to equal the virus death toll, by tomorrow you'd need more. 
In comparison yesterday in Germany only 4 died of the virus and only 9,221 
during the entire pandemic.

If you want to talk money all the "riots arson and mayhem" combined produced 
500 million dollars in property damage, and that's just a rounding error on the 
scale of the nation's Gross Domestic Product, But Trump's bungling of the 
pandemic caused the GDP to decline by 34.3% or 2.15 million million dollars, 
you'd need 4,300 more riots to equal it. By comparison Germany's GDP declined 
by 10.1%, Australia's GDP declined by 0.3%, and China's GDP increased by 3.2%. 
You know what, I'm starting to think Trump may not be making America great 
again.

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Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

Choke holds out are ok with me, now will the local dems cease and desist crime, 
murder & arson in their zones? Look to Lighfoot as an eample.


-Original Message-
From: Alan Grayson 
To: Everything List 
Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 9:48 pm
Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

If the republican Senate can't illegalize choke holds, maybe it's time to burn 
down a few federal courts to send a message. AG

On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 4:40:38 PM UTC-6, spudb...@aol.com wrote:

Its happening everywhere the democrats run the center cities, everywhere. Not 
just Chicago, or Detroit, but everywhere the dem klan rules. Team dem is good 
with fire and smoke, and perhaps unless your are involved with the DNC Planning 
Committee (?) the dems at governor and city level are doing what appeal to the 
democrat voter. Alinsky's Rule 6Rule 6: A good tactic is one your people enjoy. 
"If your people aren't having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong 
with the tactic."
Rule 8: Keep the pressure on. Use different tactics and actions and use all 
events of the period for your purpose. "The major premise for tactics is the 
development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the 
opposition. It is this that will cause the opposition to react to your 
advantage."
Orange Man didn't fall for the DNC Kent State/Jackson State replay of May 1970. 
Dude's quite calculating indeed!

-Original Message-
From: Alan Grayson 
To: Everything List 
Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 4:21 pm
Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

You've been drinking the kool-aid. I've never heard one democratic politician 
advocating violence. Not one; never. Yet you claim to be a mind reader, by 
referencing radical Black Panthers of the 1960's as if that represents the BLM. 
Democrats know that violence will discredit the BLM movement. You want to do a 
broad-brush denigration of a righteous movement. There are always fringe 
elements that want violence, but it's people like you who buy Trump's BS and 
support depriving the vast majority of Americans their First Amendment rights, 
as what happened in Lafayette Square a few weeks ago. It was patently obvious 
that the unmarked police were inciting violence. I saw it as it was happening! 
If DiBlasio isn't doing enough in NYC to curtail violence, he should be called 
out for it. But this isn't what you're doing. Did it ever occur to you, that 
there would be less violence if the republicans in the Senate would pass a 
police reform bill, but they refuse even to outlaw the choke hold? Neither does 
Trump endorse it. AG
On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 1:47:24 PM UTC-6, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
Alan, especially relying on mere words, over rational actions, (we're talking 
95% lawyers who are politicians here) we can see the policy is. It's a rehash 
of the Eldridge Cleaver's statement of "Burn Baby Burn!," circa 1965 Watts and 
Detroit "race: riots. I do remember LA 1992 Riot Fan and provocateur, Rep 
Maxine Waters, saying similar things last week. When Orange Man says things 
like "beautiful," I smile and nod because, just because we all were born upon a 
night, it wasn't last night. Not standing up to people (say, DiBlasio) 
arresting arsonists and looters on the spot, speaks intent, even, repeated 
across every democratic party zone (Portland, Seattle, Minneapolis, NYC, 
Louisville, LA, Denver..etc). The kind of lying about intent was also seen 
60-70 years ago during the genuine civil rights marches and integration, Favus, 
George Wallace, oh, yes and democratic party KKK Kleagle, Senator Robert Byrd 
from West Virginia. If you need me to, I can look up some dem statements 
endorsing or sympathizing with rioters, looters, arsonists, and now terrorists 
(Smells like Weatherman Faction SDS, Symbionese Liberation Army revived, also 
Black Panthers). I do wonder what Bruno will think when we start breaking 
apart? Will he have expected this, from such "crazy Ami's," or will it be a 
shock? Interesting, huh?
-Original Message-
From: Alan Grayson 
To: Everything List 
Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 2:53 pm
Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

Strong evidence? What is it? Which democrat politicians are encouraging 
looting? I can't recall a single one advocating that. Not one! AG

On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 12:33:24 PM UTC-6, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
Eh! Derangement syndrome again. Yet, its democrat politicians encouraging the 
Vanguard of the Proletariat to burn and loot your center cities, to say, damage 
the economy, so orange man won't be elected. There is strong evidence of mail 
ballots mysteriously gone missing, so I doubt if the members of the postal 
union can be trusted to deliver ballots. What I suspect is that beyond legal 
challenges that are sure to occur, whomever appe

Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[Bruno Marchal]

> On 30 Jul 2020, at 20:33, spudboy100 via Everything List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Eh! Derangement syndrome again. Yet, its democrat politicians encouraging the 
> Vanguard of the Proletariat to burn and loot your center cities, to say, 
> damage the economy, so orange man won't be elected.

?

All democrats politicians have condemned the violence in the street. In 
Portland we have seen many videos showing that “police” attacked the peaceful 
protesters, and provoked them. It was an operation of the type “adding oil on 
the fire”.
The very look of that “police”, and the way they acted is quite worrisome. 
Doubly so when it comes from a guy who has been mean with almost all leaders of 
a democracy, and never about Putin, MBS (Saudi), Young, … Trump is fighting 
against the Democracies and against the US constitution.




> There is strong evidence of mail ballots mysteriously gone missing, so I 
> doubt if the members of the postal union can be trusted to deliver ballots.

They should use e-mails. That is the safer, both for the health of people, and 
it is easier to make most people voting, and voting only once. I am not sure 
why they don’t do that.




> What I suspect is that beyond legal challenges that are sure to occur, 
> whomever appears to win. Thus, what was the US will descend into open civil 
> conflict. It's not about the orange real estate dude, it's about the rest of 
> us. For instance, I am not a social conservative at all. I hold that your 
> Alcor bet might be a smart one, or that your estimation that humanity  will 
> cause the development of Matrioshka brains, eventually, accurate. As of now, 
> the Vanguard Proles are causing discouragement with the archetypal Hillary 
> voter (2016) and causing a drop out for Biden, (Kamala) because they really 
> don't wish BLM-Antifa governance. Since the police pulled out of the 
> Millwaukee convention, I suspect that NOI's Fruit of Islam will do the 
> policing there. Call it  a precursor. 

I agree that the left is blind on “islamism” coming from the Middle East, which 
is not islam, but comes directly from the German nazi propaganda, and the fact 
the Europeans and Americans after the WW II have subtracted Al Husseini and the 
Muslim Brotherhood from the Nuremberg trial. 
The conflict in the Middle-East is a conflict agains nazis, not again Islam nor 
again Arabs. Here the left is very often blind, and more homophobia, 
antisemite, etc,  than the right. I agree that Trumps politics is better (for 
the poor) than the left one. But the way Trump implement it makes it hard for 
the latinos and the black, and the consumer of medications, to get any of the 
benefits, and Trump seems to work hard to add chaos and to generate a civil 
war, if only to distract us from the rest, and keep his (authoritarian) power. 
Trump is both a con artist and a pervert narcissist. He is, Imo, extremely 
dangerous. He is shifting the left-right debate into an extremist-moderate 
fight. 

Bruno


> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Clark 
> To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 9:56 am
> Subject: Trump suggests delaying the election
> 
> Trump just Tweeted:
> 
> "With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 
> will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a 
> great embarrassment to the USA, Delay the Election until people can properly, 
> securely and safely vote???"
> 
> Trump floats delaying election despite lack of authority to do so 
> 
> 
> John K Clark
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Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[Bruno Marchal]

> On 30 Jul 2020, at 15:56, John Clark  wrote:
> 
> Trump just Tweeted:
> 
> "With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 
> will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a 
> great embarrassment to the USA, Delay the Election until people can properly, 
> securely and safely vote???"
> 
> Trump floats delaying election despite lack of authority to do so 
> 


Trump knows that he has not the authority to change the date of the elections, 
but he is just telling us that he will contest the result of the election (in 
case Biden win), and that might work, when you see the senate republicans 
acquitting him by dismissing the first hand witnessing (after compiling that up 
to that moment it was only second-hand witnessing).

I am afraid that the Republican Senators (minus Mitt Romney) have already made 
Trump into a dictator. He has no reason to listen more to the election result 
that to the coronavirus death statistics.

I hope we will be able to see the Trump’s tax return before the election. If 
democracy survives, it would be nice to make the release of the taw return 
mandatory to be eligible. Also, an impeached president should not be eligible 
at all. I think.

Bruno


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Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[John Clark]

On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 5:56 AM smitra  wrote:

*> Trump knows that he doesn't have the authority to do this*


It's well known that Trump is a big fan of totalitarians and I think he
believes what Mao Zedong believed, that authority comes from the barrel of
a gun, he's already sent federal storm troopers into the hearts of American
cities as practice for the big day in November.

John K Clark

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Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[smitra]

On 30-07-2020 15:56, John Clark wrote:

TRUMP JUST TWEETED:

"_With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good),
2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It
will be a great embarrassment to the USA, Delay the Election until
people can properly, securely and safely vote???_"

Trump floats delaying election despite lack of authority to do so

John K Clark


Trump knows that he doesn't have the authority to do this, so his real 
plan must be something different. I suspect that what he really aims at 
is for Republican governors to decide that a popular vote cannot be held 
due to the pandemic and because in their opinion mail-in vote is 
unreliable, that the legislature will instead vote on who wins the 
State. Many states where Biden is way ahead have a Republican governor 
and a Republican Legislature, as well as courts dominated by 
conservative judges.


Conservative judges tend to set the bar very high for overturning a 
decision that was arrived at using constitutionally correct procedures. 
In the end the SCOTUS may end up upholding an election result based on 
Republican Legislatures having voted for Trump when the population at 
large supported Biden.


Saibal

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Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[John Clark]

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 6:34 PM Mr. Spudboy via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

*> I have to note is that democrat mayors and governors are letting their
> cities burn, and doing mostly nothing.* [...] Are there riots, arson, and
> mayhem, yes or no?


Mr. Spudboy, you need to keep things in perspective. All the "riots arson
and mayhem" from all the "democrat mayors and governors letting their
cities burn" produced a grand total of 2 deaths, meanwhile Trump's
astoundingly incompetent response to the COVID-19 pandemic has so far
killed 155,285 Americans and the numbers are growing fast; yesterday alone
1,465 died. As of today you'd need 77,643 more riots to equal the virus
death toll, by tomorrow you'd need more. In comparison yesterday in Germany
only 4 died of the virus and only 9,221 during the entire pandemic.

If you want to talk money all the "riots arson and mayhem" combined
produced 500 million dollars in property damage, and that's just a rounding
error on the scale of the nation's Gross Domestic Product, But Trump's
bungling of the pandemic caused the GDP to decline by 34.3% or 2.15 million
million dollars, you'd need 4,300 more riots to equal it. By comparison
Germany's GDP declined by 10.1%, Australia's GDP declined by 0.3%, and
China's GDP increased by 3.2%. You know what, I'm starting to think Trump
may not be making America great again.

John K Clark

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Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

['Brent Meeker' via Everything List]

On 7/30/2020 3:33 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
Its simply that life is a mixed thing, and this isn't the 20th century 
that we were expecting. All I have to note is that democrat mayors and 
governors are letting their cities burn, and doing mostly nothing. 
It's not a matter of opinion when we can see what is going on.


You only see what the TV networks find worth covering.  They don't cover 
the fact that all of the blocks except the on the federal building is 
on, have nothing happening.  When the local Portland TV station did some 
random man-on-the-street interviews and asked them about how the 
protests were affecting the city, they all said something like, it's not 
affecting anything I do or know about...it's just couple of square blocks.


The only one's censoring to focus on police reaction after BLMTifa 
provocation, are the dem media loyalists. You can kind of surf Twitter 
land to get the un-cut version provided. Like Pat Moynihan once said, 
"we all have a right to our own opinion, but we don't have a right to 
our own facts."  Are there riots, arson, and mayhem, yes or no?


There are no riots.  There has been some arson, since the fed troops 
showed.  Has there been mayhem...yes, committed by said troops clubbing, 
shooting, and gassing peaceful protesters executing their Constitutional 
right to assembly and to petition their government.


Is this violence being committed by racist republicans or by 'mostly 
peaceful' democrats? Seemingly, the later, not the former.


It's committed by a ragtag army of border patrol and federal protection 
cops, who wear not identification.


Brent




-Original Message-
From: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 


To: spudboy100 via Everything List 
Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 4:28 pm
Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election



On 7/30/2020 11:33 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
Eh! Derangement syndrome again. Yet, its democrat politicians 
encouraging the Vanguard of the Proletariat to burn and loot your 
center cities, to say, damage the economy, so orange man won't be 
elected. There is strong evidence of mail ballots mysteriously gone 
missing, so I doubt if the members of the postal union can be trusted 
to deliver ballots.


So you've swallowed a lot of Trump's conspiracy theory lies.

Brent

What I suspect is that beyond legal challenges that are sure to 
occur, whomever appears to win. Thus, what was the US will descend 
into open civil conflict. It's not about the orange real estate dude, 
it's about the rest of us. For instance, I am not a social 
conservative at all. I hold that your Alcor bet might be a smart one, 
or that your estimation that humanity  will cause the development of 
Matrioshka brains, eventually, accurate. As of now, the Vanguard 
Proles are causing discouragement with the archetypal Hillary voter 
(2016) and causing a drop out for Biden, (Kamala) because they really 
don't wish BLM-Antifa governance. Since the police pulled out of the 
Millwaukee convention, I suspect that NOI's Fruit of Islam will do 
the policing there. Call it  a precursor.



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Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 9:56 am
Subject: Trump suggests delaying the election

*Trump just Tweeted:*

"/With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 
2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It 
will be a great embarrassment to the USA, Delay the Election until 
people can properly, securely and safely vote???/"


Trump floats delaying election despite lack of authority to do so 
<https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/30/politics/trump-delay-election-no-authority/index.html>


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Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[Alan Grayson]

If the republican Senate can't illegalize choke holds, maybe it's time to 
burn down a few federal courts to send a message. AG

On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 4:40:38 PM UTC-6, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
>
>
> Its happening everywhere the democrats run the center cities, everywhere. 
> Not just Chicago, or Detroit, but everywhere the dem klan rules. Team dem 
> is good with fire and smoke, and perhaps unless your are involved with the 
> DNC Planning Committee (?) the dems at governor and city level are doing 
> what appeal to the democrat voter.  
> Alinsky's Rule 6
> *Rule 6*: A good tactic is one your people enjoy. "If your people aren't 
> having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong with the tactic."
>
> *Rule 8*: Keep the pressure on. Use different tactics and actions and use 
> all events of the period for your purpose. "The major premise for tactics 
> is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure 
> upon the opposition. It is this that will cause the opposition to react to 
> your advantage."
>
> Orange Man didn't fall for the DNC Kent State/Jackson State replay of May 
> 1970. Dude's quite calculating indeed!
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Alan Grayson >
> To: Everything List >
> Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 4:21 pm
> Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election
>
> You've been drinking the kool-aid. I've never heard one democratic 
> politician advocating violence. Not one; never. Yet you claim to be a mind 
> reader, by referencing radical Black Panthers of the 1960's as if that 
> represents the BLM. Democrats know that violence will discredit the BLM 
> movement. You want to do a broad-brush denigration of a righteous movement. 
> There are always fringe elements that want violence, but it's people like 
> you who buy Trump's BS and support depriving the vast majority of Americans 
> their First Amendment rights, as what happened in Lafayette Square a few 
> weeks ago. It was patently obvious that the unmarked police were inciting 
> violence. I saw it as it was happening! If DiBlasio isn't doing enough in 
> NYC to curtail violence, he should be called out for it. But this isn't 
> what you're doing. Did it ever occur to you, that there would be less 
> violence if the republicans in the Senate would pass a police reform bill, 
> but they refuse even to outlaw the choke hold? Neither does Trump endorse 
> it. AG 
>
> On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 1:47:24 PM UTC-6, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Alan, especially relying on mere words, over rational actions, (we're 
> talking 95% lawyers who are politicians here) we can see the policy is. 
> It's a rehash of the Eldridge Cleaver's statement of "Burn Baby Burn!," 
> circa 1965 Watts and Detroit "race: riots. I do remember LA 1992 Riot Fan 
> and provocateur, Rep Maxine Waters, saying similar things last week. When 
> Orange Man says things like "beautiful," I smile and nod because, just 
> because we all were born upon a night, it wasn't last night. Not standing 
> up to people (say, DiBlasio) arresting arsonists and looters on the spot, 
> speaks intent, even, repeated across every democratic party zone (Portland, 
> Seattle, Minneapolis, NYC, Louisville, LA, Denver..etc). The kind of lying 
> about intent was also seen 60-70 years ago during the genuine civil rights 
> marches and integration, Favus, George Wallace, oh, yes and democratic 
> party KKK Kleagle, Senator Robert Byrd from West Virginia. If you need me 
> to, I can look up some dem statements endorsing or sympathizing with 
> rioters, looters, arsonists, and now terrorists (Smells like Weatherman 
> Faction SDS, Symbionese Liberation Army revived, also Black Panthers). I do 
> wonder what Bruno will think when we start breaking apart? Will he have 
> expected this, from such "crazy Ami's," or will it be a shock? Interesting, 
> huh?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan Grayson 
> To: Everything List 
> Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 2:53 pm
> Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election
>
> Strong evidence? What is it? Which democrat politicians are encouraging 
> looting? I can't recall a single one advocating that. Not one! AG
>
> On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 12:33:24 PM UTC-6, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Eh! Derangement syndrome again. Yet, its democrat politicians encouraging 
> the Vanguard of the Proletariat to burn and loot your center cities, to 
> say, damage the economy, so orange man won't be elected. There is strong 
> evidence of mail ballots mysteriously gone missing, so I doubt if the 
> members of the postal union ca

Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

I mean the material is available elsewhere besides dear old fox. No cutaways by 
the dem-with-byline-mediathe full thing Lawrence. On America being a 
bribe-ocracy, no doubt (oligarch, plutocracy etc), but it is now the funders of 
the democrats (corporation$) that have thrown-in with their employees on the 
streets. I used to be a lifelong democrat, so I am not so opposed to the 
Keynesian balance,and am not addicted to "rugged capitalism," whatever that is? 
However, the oligarchs are now numerically, funding the dems. Speaking of Fox, 
just last week one of the Murdoch boys just pledged 1.3 mil to the Biden 
campaign. 
Beyond the cutting of pies, the human species should be focusing on (not mere 
computing) but science and engineering projects to vastly expand the economy, 
AND save all our butts. We see the soviet socialism of Maduro and Castro and it 
simply causes things to go to shit, because there's no economic vitality. Even 
China has narfed the garthox without US cash-and I am an economic nationalist 
(for now) because it seems to work best for the middle class-not the 
billionaires. 
On the Com v Cap thing, China has both and all owned by the party. What is more 
deadly seems to be Soviet Socialism, because whether, its Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, 
Daddy Kim, we get an abundance of massacres. Now we had this with US slavery 
and the Belgian Congo massacres, but this was strictly pre-20th century. So, 
for a better world, I'll go with technology and the ability to make money from 
it-even tho its "unfair."
For an an on-coming, Robots took our Jobs future, I'd consider funding every 
soul on earth, by expanding lunar mining and also try to expand 
bio-nanotechnology ( I haven't invested because too middle class economically). 
 


-Original Message-
From: Lawrence Crowell 
To: Everything List 
Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 7:45 pm
Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

What is the difference between a Republican and a Democrat elected to office? 
Ans: The velocity with which their knees hit the floor when confronted by their 
campaign donors. Political campaigns are financed by banks, financial 
institutions, corporations and the billionaires. They split their donations, 
that way no matter who wins they have leverage. Generally when things are going 
well they support the Reps more with some expectation of tax cuts and more 
dividends. When the economy goes into the tank they tend to support the Dems 
more because they are more willing to pull the Keynesian levers and knobs to 
cover their butts. 
In a communist society the government owns the corporations, and in a 
capitalist society the corporations own the government. I tail to see why 
people are so passionate about this crap. It is all just made up shit meant to 
control people for the benefit of a very few.
The political brain is a bad brain, and it comes in two bad forms. The most 
common are idiots who actually believes this nonsense. The second are the 
sociopaths who are the manipulators and connivers who make this crap work.
I presume this stuff about the demonstrations and against dem mayors is the 
feces coming out of Faux News. 
LC

On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 5:47:23 PM UTC-5 spudb...@aol.com wrote:

No the "mostly peaceful protest ," thing is a deliberate lie, unless my peepers 
are tricking me? It's a mantra by the DNC to sell the idea that the reason a 
court building is burned is because of Trump's "kidnappers," DNC just tried 
this one on monday, after the July 25 weekend riots. Now arson was all the rage 
clear back in May, and there were no troops then. I say, selfishly speaking, 
keep it up, because it is driving a sizable fraction of the dem voting base 
away from the Kamala-Biden ticket, (He'll resign of course!) if He won (wink 
wink). 


-Original Message-
From: Lawrence Crowell 
To: Everything List 
Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 4:34 pm
Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

There is no strong evidence of voter fraud with mail-in ballots. There can be a 
few shenanigans, such as somebody marking a ballot for an older family member 
and so forth. There is no evidence of widespread fraud. 
The Democrats have not been encouraging rioting and looting. In Portland the 
protests were generally peaceful until t'Rump sent the BORTAC troops in and 
stirred up the waters and mud. In fact that may be what t'Rump wants so he can 
look like the law and order president. It might also be a rehearsal for a 
power-grab if t'Rump loses the election.
LC

On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 1:33:24 PM UTC-5 spudb...@aol.com wrote:

Eh! Derangement syndrome again. Yet, its democrat politicians encouraging the 
Vanguard of the Proletariat to burn and loot your center cities, to say, damage 
the economy, so orange man won't be elected. There is strong evidence of mail 
ballots mysteriously gone missing, so I doubt if th

Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[Lawrence Crowell]

What is the difference between a Republican and a Democrat elected to 
office? Ans: The velocity with which their knees hit the floor when 
confronted by their campaign donors. Political campaigns are financed by 
banks, financial institutions, corporations and the billionaires. They 
split their donations, that way no matter who wins they have leverage. 
Generally when things are going well they support the Reps more with some 
expectation of tax cuts and more dividends. When the economy goes into the 
tank they tend to support the Dems more because they are more willing to 
pull the Keynesian levers and knobs to cover their butts. 

In a communist society the government owns the corporations, and in a 
capitalist society the corporations own the government. I tail to see why 
people are so passionate about this crap. It is all just made up shit meant 
to control people for the benefit of a very few.

The political brain is a bad brain, and it comes in two bad forms. The most 
common are idiots who actually believes this nonsense. The second are the 
sociopaths who are the manipulators and connivers who make this crap work.

I presume this stuff about the demonstrations and against dem mayors is the 
feces coming out of Faux News. 

LC


On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 5:47:23 PM UTC-5 spudb...@aol.com wrote:

> No the "mostly peaceful protest ," thing is a deliberate lie, unless my 
> peepers are tricking me? It's a mantra by the DNC to sell the idea that the 
> reason a court building is burned is because of Trump's "kidnappers," DNC 
> just tried this one on monday, after the July 25 weekend riots. Now arson 
> was all the rage clear back in May, and there were no troops then. I say, 
> selfishly speaking, keep it up, because it is driving a sizable fraction of 
> the dem voting base away from the Kamala-Biden ticket, (He'll resign of 
> course!) if He won (wink wink). 
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Lawrence Crowell 
> To: Everything List 
> Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 4:34 pm
> Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election
>
> There is no strong evidence of voter fraud with mail-in ballots. There can 
> be a few shenanigans, such as somebody marking a ballot for an older family 
> member and so forth. There is no evidence of widespread fraud.  
>
> The Democrats have not been encouraging rioting and looting. In Portland 
> the protests were generally peaceful until t'Rump sent the BORTAC troops in 
> and stirred up the waters and mud. In fact that may be what t'Rump wants so 
> he can look like the law and order president. It might also be a rehearsal 
> for a power-grab if t'Rump loses the election.
>
> LC
>
> On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 1:33:24 PM UTC-5 spudb...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Eh! Derangement syndrome again. Yet, its democrat politicians encouraging 
> the Vanguard of the Proletariat to burn and loot your center cities, to 
> say, damage the economy, so orange man won't be elected. There is strong 
> evidence of mail ballots mysteriously gone missing, so I doubt if the 
> members of the postal union can be trusted to deliver ballots. What I 
> suspect is that beyond legal challenges that are sure to occur, whomever 
> appears to win. Thus, what was the US will descend into open civil 
> conflict. It's not about the orange real estate dude, it's about the rest 
> of us. For instance, I am not a social conservative at all. I hold that 
> your Alcor bet might be a smart one, or that your estimation that humanity  
> will cause the development of Matrioshka brains, eventually, accurate. As 
> of now, the Vanguard Proles are causing discouragement with the archetypal 
> Hillary voter (2016) and causing a drop out for Biden, (Kamala) because 
> they really don't wish BLM-Antifa governance. Since the police pulled out 
> of the Millwaukee convention, I suspect that NOI's Fruit of Islam will do 
> the policing there. Call it  a precursor. 
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Clark 
> To: everyth...@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 9:56 am
> Subject: Trump suggests delaying the election
>
> *Trump just Tweeted:*
>
> "*With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 
> 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will 
> be a great embarrassment to the USA, Delay the Election until people can 
> properly, securely and safely vote???*"
>
> Trump floats delaying election despite lack of authority to do so 
> <https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/30/politics/trump-delay-election-no-authority/index.html>
>
> John K Clark
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Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

No the "mostly peaceful protest ," thing is a deliberate lie, unless my peepers 
are tricking me? It's a mantra by the DNC to sell the idea that the reason a 
court building is burned is because of Trump's "kidnappers," DNC just tried 
this one on monday, after the July 25 weekend riots. Now arson was all the rage 
clear back in May, and there were no troops then. I say, selfishly speaking, 
keep it up, because it is driving a sizable fraction of the dem voting base 
away from the Kamala-Biden ticket, (He'll resign of course!) if He won (wink 
wink). 


-Original Message-
From: Lawrence Crowell 
To: Everything List 
Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 4:34 pm
Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

There is no strong evidence of voter fraud with mail-in ballots. There can be a 
few shenanigans, such as somebody marking a ballot for an older family member 
and so forth. There is no evidence of widespread fraud. 
The Democrats have not been encouraging rioting and looting. In Portland the 
protests were generally peaceful until t'Rump sent the BORTAC troops in and 
stirred up the waters and mud. In fact that may be what t'Rump wants so he can 
look like the law and order president. It might also be a rehearsal for a 
power-grab if t'Rump loses the election.
LC

On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 1:33:24 PM UTC-5 spudb...@aol.com wrote:

Eh! Derangement syndrome again. Yet, its democrat politicians encouraging the 
Vanguard of the Proletariat to burn and loot your center cities, to say, damage 
the economy, so orange man won't be elected. There is strong evidence of mail 
ballots mysteriously gone missing, so I doubt if the members of the postal 
union can be trusted to deliver ballots. What I suspect is that beyond legal 
challenges that are sure to occur, whomever appears to win. Thus, what was the 
US will descend into open civil conflict. It's not about the orange real estate 
dude, it's about the rest of us. For instance, I am not a social conservative 
at all. I hold that your Alcor bet might be a smart one, or that your 
estimation that humanity  will cause the development of Matrioshka brains, 
eventually, accurate. As of now, the Vanguard Proles are causing discouragement 
with the archetypal Hillary voter (2016) and causing a drop out for Biden, 
(Kamala) because they really don't wish BLM-Antifa governance. Since the police 
pulled out of the Millwaukee convention, I suspect that NOI's Fruit of Islam 
will do the policing there. Call it  a precursor. 


-Original Message-
From: John Clark 
To: everyth...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 9:56 am
Subject: Trump suggests delaying the election

Trump just Tweeted:
"With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will 
be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great 
embarrassment to the USA, Delay the Election until people can properly, 
securely and safely vote???"

Trump floats delaying election despite lack of authority to do so

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Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

Its happening everywhere the democrats run the center cities, everywhere. Not 
just Chicago, or Detroit, but everywhere the dem klan rules. Team dem is good 
with fire and smoke, and perhaps unless your are involved with the DNC Planning 
Committee (?) the dems at governor and city level are doing what appeal to the 
democrat voter. Alinsky's Rule 6Rule 6: A good tactic is one your people enjoy. 
"If your people aren't having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong 
with the tactic."
Rule 8: Keep the pressure on. Use different tactics and actions and use all 
events of the period for your purpose. "The major premise for tactics is the 
development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the 
opposition. It is this that will cause the opposition to react to your 
advantage."
Orange Man didn't fall for the DNC Kent State/Jackson State replay of May 1970. 
Dude's quite calculating indeed!

-Original Message-
From: Alan Grayson 
To: Everything List 
Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 4:21 pm
Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

You've been drinking the kool-aid. I've never heard one democratic politician 
advocating violence. Not one; never. Yet you claim to be a mind reader, by 
referencing radical Black Panthers of the 1960's as if that represents the BLM. 
Democrats know that violence will discredit the BLM movement. You want to do a 
broad-brush denigration of a righteous movement. There are always fringe 
elements that want violence, but it's people like you who buy Trump's BS and 
support depriving the vast majority of Americans their First Amendment rights, 
as what happened in Lafayette Square a few weeks ago. It was patently obvious 
that the unmarked police were inciting violence. I saw it as it was happening! 
If DiBlasio isn't doing enough in NYC to curtail violence, he should be called 
out for it. But this isn't what you're doing. Did it ever occur to you, that 
there would be less violence if the republicans in the Senate would pass a 
police reform bill, but they refuse even to outlaw the choke hold? Neither does 
Trump endorse it. AG
On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 1:47:24 PM UTC-6, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
Alan, especially relying on mere words, over rational actions, (we're talking 
95% lawyers who are politicians here) we can see the policy is. It's a rehash 
of the Eldridge Cleaver's statement of "Burn Baby Burn!," circa 1965 Watts and 
Detroit "race: riots. I do remember LA 1992 Riot Fan and provocateur, Rep 
Maxine Waters, saying similar things last week. When Orange Man says things 
like "beautiful," I smile and nod because, just because we all were born upon a 
night, it wasn't last night. Not standing up to people (say, DiBlasio) 
arresting arsonists and looters on the spot, speaks intent, even, repeated 
across every democratic party zone (Portland, Seattle, Minneapolis, NYC, 
Louisville, LA, Denver..etc). The kind of lying about intent was also seen 
60-70 years ago during the genuine civil rights marches and integration, Favus, 
George Wallace, oh, yes and democratic party KKK Kleagle, Senator Robert Byrd 
from West Virginia. If you need me to, I can look up some dem statements 
endorsing or sympathizing with rioters, looters, arsonists, and now terrorists 
(Smells like Weatherman Faction SDS, Symbionese Liberation Army revived, also 
Black Panthers). I do wonder what Bruno will think when we start breaking 
apart? Will he have expected this, from such "crazy Ami's," or will it be a 
shock? Interesting, huh?
-Original Message-
From: Alan Grayson 
To: Everything List 
Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 2:53 pm
Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

Strong evidence? What is it? Which democrat politicians are encouraging 
looting? I can't recall a single one advocating that. Not one! AG

On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 12:33:24 PM UTC-6, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
Eh! Derangement syndrome again. Yet, its democrat politicians encouraging the 
Vanguard of the Proletariat to burn and loot your center cities, to say, damage 
the economy, so orange man won't be elected. There is strong evidence of mail 
ballots mysteriously gone missing, so I doubt if the members of the postal 
union can be trusted to deliver ballots. What I suspect is that beyond legal 
challenges that are sure to occur, whomever appears to win. Thus, what was the 
US will descend into open civil conflict. It's not about the orange real estate 
dude, it's about the rest of us. For instance, I am not a social conservative 
at all. I hold that your Alcor bet might be a smart one, or that your 
estimation that humanity  will cause the development of Matrioshka brains, 
eventually, accurate. As of now, the Vanguard Proles are causing discouragement 
with the archetypal Hillary voter (2016) and causing a drop out for Biden, 
(Kamal

Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

Its simply that life is a mixed thing, and this isn't the 20th century that we 
were expecting. All I have to note is that democrat mayors and governors are 
letting their cities burn, and doing mostly nothing. It's not a matter of 
opinion when we can see what is going on. The only one's censoring to focus on 
police reaction after BLMTifa provocation, are the dem media loyalists. You can 
kind of surf Twitter land to get the un-cut version provided. Like Pat Moynihan 
once said, "we all have a right to our own opinion, but we don't have a right 
to our own facts."  Are there riots, arson, and mayhem, yes or no? Is this 
violence being committed by racist republicans or by 'mostly peaceful' 
democrats? Seemingly, the later, not the former. 


-Original Message-
From: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
To: spudboy100 via Everything List 
Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 4:28 pm
Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

 
 
 On 7/30/2020 11:33 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
  
 
Eh! Derangement syndrome again. Yet, its democrat politicians encouraging the 
Vanguard of the Proletariat to burn and loot your center cities, to say, damage 
the economy, so orange man won't be elected. There is strong evidence of mail 
ballots mysteriously gone missing, so I doubt if the members of the postal 
union can be trusted to deliver ballots.  
 So you've swallowed a lot of Trump's conspiracy theory lies.  
 
 Brent
 
 
 What I suspect is that beyond legal challenges that are sure to occur, 
whomever appears to win. Thus, what was the US will descend into open civil 
conflict. It's not about the orange real estate dude, it's about the rest of 
us. For instance, I am not a social conservative at all. I hold that your Alcor 
bet might be a smart one, or that your estimation that humanity  will cause the 
development of Matrioshka brains, eventually, accurate. As of now, the Vanguard 
Proles are causing discouragement with the archetypal Hillary voter (2016) and 
causing a drop out for Biden, (Kamala) because they really don't wish 
BLM-Antifa governance. Since the police pulled out of the Millwaukee 
convention, I suspect that NOI's Fruit of Islam will do the policing there. 
Call it  a precursor. 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Clark 
 To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 9:56 am
 Subject: Trump suggests delaying the election
 
   Trump just Tweeted: 
  "With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 
will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a 
great embarrassment to the USA, Delay the Election until people can properly, 
securely and safely vote???"
   
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Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[Lawrence Crowell]

There is no strong evidence of voter fraud with mail-in ballots. There can 
be a few shenanigans, such as somebody marking a ballot for an older family 
member and so forth. There is no evidence of widespread fraud. 

The Democrats have not been encouraging rioting and looting. In Portland 
the protests were generally peaceful until t'Rump sent the BORTAC troops in 
and stirred up the waters and mud. In fact that may be what t'Rump wants so 
he can look like the law and order president. It might also be a rehearsal 
for a power-grab if t'Rump loses the election.

LC

On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 1:33:24 PM UTC-5 spudb...@aol.com wrote:

> Eh! Derangement syndrome again. Yet, its democrat politicians encouraging 
> the Vanguard of the Proletariat to burn and loot your center cities, to 
> say, damage the economy, so orange man won't be elected. There is strong 
> evidence of mail ballots mysteriously gone missing, so I doubt if the 
> members of the postal union can be trusted to deliver ballots. What I 
> suspect is that beyond legal challenges that are sure to occur, whomever 
> appears to win. Thus, what was the US will descend into open civil 
> conflict. It's not about the orange real estate dude, it's about the rest 
> of us. For instance, I am not a social conservative at all. I hold that 
> your Alcor bet might be a smart one, or that your estimation that humanity  
> will cause the development of Matrioshka brains, eventually, accurate. As 
> of now, the Vanguard Proles are causing discouragement with the archetypal 
> Hillary voter (2016) and causing a drop out for Biden, (Kamala) because 
> they really don't wish BLM-Antifa governance. Since the police pulled out 
> of the Millwaukee convention, I suspect that NOI's Fruit of Islam will do 
> the policing there. Call it  a precursor. 
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Clark 
> To: everyth...@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 9:56 am
> Subject: Trump suggests delaying the election
>
> *Trump just Tweeted:*
>
> "*With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 
> 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will 
> be a great embarrassment to the USA, Delay the Election until people can 
> properly, securely and safely vote???*"
>
> Trump floats delaying election despite lack of authority to do so 
> 
>
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Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

['Brent Meeker' via Everything List]

On 7/30/2020 11:33 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
Eh! Derangement syndrome again. Yet, its democrat politicians 
encouraging the Vanguard of the Proletariat to burn and loot your 
center cities, to say, damage the economy, so orange man won't be 
elected. There is strong evidence of mail ballots mysteriously gone 
missing, so I doubt if the members of the postal union can be trusted 
to deliver ballots.


So you've swallowed a lot of Trump's conspiracy theory lies.

Brent

What I suspect is that beyond legal challenges that are sure to occur, 
whomever appears to win. Thus, what was the US will descend into open 
civil conflict. It's not about the orange real estate dude, it's about 
the rest of us. For instance, I am not a social conservative at all. I 
hold that your Alcor bet might be a smart one, or that your estimation 
that humanity  will cause the development of Matrioshka brains, 
eventually, accurate. As of now, the Vanguard Proles are causing 
discouragement with the archetypal Hillary voter (2016) and causing a 
drop out for Biden, (Kamala) because they really don't wish BLM-Antifa 
governance. Since the police pulled out of the Millwaukee convention, 
I suspect that NOI's Fruit of Islam will do the policing there. Call 
it  a precursor.



-Original Message-
From: John Clark 
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 9:56 am
Subject: Trump suggests delaying the election

*Trump just Tweeted:*

"/With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 
2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It 
will be a great embarrassment to the USA, Delay the Election until 
people can properly, securely and safely vote???/"


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Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[Alan Grayson]

You've been drinking the kool-aid. I've never heard one democratic 
politician advocating violence. Not one; never. Yet you claim to be a mind 
reader, by referencing radical Black Panthers of the 1960's as if that 
represents the BLM. Democrats know that violence will discredit the BLM 
movement. You want to do a broad-brush denigration of a righteous movement. 
There are always fringe elements that want violence, but it's people like 
you who buy Trump's BS and support depriving the vast majority of Americans 
their First Amendment rights, as what happened in Lafayette Square a few 
weeks ago. It was patently obvious that the unmarked police were inciting 
violence. I saw it as it was happening! If DiBlasio isn't doing enough in 
NYC to curtail violence, he should be called out for it. But this isn't 
what you're doing. Did it ever occur to you, that there would be less 
violence if the republicans in the Senate would pass a police reform bill, 
but they refuse even to outlaw the choke hold? Neither does Trump endorse 
it. AG

On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 1:47:24 PM UTC-6, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Alan, especially relying on mere words, over rational actions, (we're 
> talking 95% lawyers who are politicians here) we can see the policy is. 
> It's a rehash of the Eldridge Cleaver's statement of "Burn Baby Burn!," 
> circa 1965 Watts and Detroit "race: riots. I do remember LA 1992 Riot Fan 
> and provocateur, Rep Maxine Waters, saying similar things last week. When 
> Orange Man says things like "beautiful," I smile and nod because, just 
> because we all were born upon a night, it wasn't last night. Not standing 
> up to people (say, DiBlasio) arresting arsonists and looters on the spot, 
> speaks intent, even, repeated across every democratic party zone (Portland, 
> Seattle, Minneapolis, NYC, Louisville, LA, Denver..etc). The kind of lying 
> about intent was also seen 60-70 years ago during the genuine civil rights 
> marches and integration, Favus, George Wallace, oh, yes and democratic 
> party KKK Kleagle, Senator Robert Byrd from West Virginia. If you need me 
> to, I can look up some dem statements endorsing or sympathizing with 
> rioters, looters, arsonists, and now terrorists (Smells like Weatherman 
> Faction SDS, Symbionese Liberation Army revived, also Black Panthers). I do 
> wonder what Bruno will think when we start breaking apart? Will he have 
> expected this, from such "crazy Ami's," or will it be a shock? Interesting, 
> huh?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan Grayson >
> To: Everything List >
> Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 2:53 pm
> Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election
>
> Strong evidence? What is it? Which democrat politicians are encouraging 
> looting? I can't recall a single one advocating that. Not one! AG
>
> On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 12:33:24 PM UTC-6, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Eh! Derangement syndrome again. Yet, its democrat politicians encouraging 
> the Vanguard of the Proletariat to burn and loot your center cities, to 
> say, damage the economy, so orange man won't be elected. There is strong 
> evidence of mail ballots mysteriously gone missing, so I doubt if the 
> members of the postal union can be trusted to deliver ballots. What I 
> suspect is that beyond legal challenges that are sure to occur, whomever 
> appears to win. Thus, what was the US will descend into open civil 
> conflict. It's not about the orange real estate dude, it's about the rest 
> of us. For instance, I am not a social conservative at all. I hold that 
> your Alcor bet might be a smart one, or that your estimation that humanity  
> will cause the development of Matrioshka brains, eventually, accurate. As 
> of now, the Vanguard Proles are causing discouragement with the archetypal 
> Hillary voter (2016) and causing a drop out for Biden, (Kamala) because 
> they really don't wish BLM-Antifa governance. Since the police pulled out 
> of the Millwaukee convention, I suspect that NOI's Fruit of Islam will do 
> the policing there. Call it  a precursor. 
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Clark 
> To: everyth...@googlegroups. com
> Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 9:56 am
> Subject: Trump suggests delaying the election
>
> *Trump just Tweeted:*
>
> "*With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 
> 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will 
> be a great embarrassment to the USA, Delay the Election until people can 
> properly, securely and safely vote???*"
>
> Trump floats delaying election despite lack of authority to do so 
> <https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/30/

Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

Alan, especially relying on mere words, over rational actions, (we're talking 
95% lawyers who are politicians here) we can see the policy is. It's a rehash 
of the Eldridge Cleaver's statement of "Burn Baby Burn!," circa 1965 Watts and 
Detroit "race: riots. I do remember LA 1992 Riot Fan and provocateur, Rep 
Maxine Waters, saying similar things last week. When Orange Man says things 
like "beautiful," I smile and nod because, just because we all were born upon a 
night, it wasn't last night. Not standing up to people (say, DiBlasio) 
arresting arsonists and looters on the spot, speaks intent, even, repeated 
across every democratic party zone (Portland, Seattle, Minneapolis, NYC, 
Louisville, LA, Denver..etc). The kind of lying about intent was also seen 
60-70 years ago during the genuine civil rights marches and integration, Favus, 
George Wallace, oh, yes and democratic party KKK Kleagle, Senator Robert Byrd 
from West Virginia. If you need me to, I can look up some dem statements 
endorsing or sympathizing with rioters, looters, arsonists, and now terrorists 
(Smells like Weatherman Faction SDS, Symbionese Liberation Army revived, also 
Black Panthers). I do wonder what Bruno will think when we start breaking 
apart? Will he have expected this, from such "crazy Ami's," or will it be a 
shock? Interesting, huh?

-Original Message-
From: Alan Grayson 
To: Everything List 
Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 2:53 pm
Subject: Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

Strong evidence? What is it? Which democrat politicians are encouraging 
looting? I can't recall a single one advocating that. Not one! AG

On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 12:33:24 PM UTC-6, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
Eh! Derangement syndrome again. Yet, its democrat politicians encouraging the 
Vanguard of the Proletariat to burn and loot your center cities, to say, damage 
the economy, so orange man won't be elected. There is strong evidence of mail 
ballots mysteriously gone missing, so I doubt if the members of the postal 
union can be trusted to deliver ballots. What I suspect is that beyond legal 
challenges that are sure to occur, whomever appears to win. Thus, what was the 
US will descend into open civil conflict. It's not about the orange real estate 
dude, it's about the rest of us. For instance, I am not a social conservative 
at all. I hold that your Alcor bet might be a smart one, or that your 
estimation that humanity  will cause the development of Matrioshka brains, 
eventually, accurate. As of now, the Vanguard Proles are causing discouragement 
with the archetypal Hillary voter (2016) and causing a drop out for Biden, 
(Kamala) because they really don't wish BLM-Antifa governance. Since the police 
pulled out of the Millwaukee convention, I suspect that NOI's Fruit of Islam 
will do the policing there. Call it  a precursor. 


-Original Message-
From: John Clark 
To: everyth...@googlegroups. com
Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 9:56 am
Subject: Trump suggests delaying the election

Trump just Tweeted:
"With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will 
be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great 
embarrassment to the USA, Delay the Election until people can properly, 
securely and safely vote???"

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Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[Alan Grayson]

Strong evidence? What is it? Which democrat politicians are encouraging 
looting? I can't recall a single one advocating that. Not one! AG

On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 12:33:24 PM UTC-6, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Eh! Derangement syndrome again. Yet, its democrat politicians encouraging 
> the Vanguard of the Proletariat to burn and loot your center cities, to 
> say, damage the economy, so orange man won't be elected. There is strong 
> evidence of mail ballots mysteriously gone missing, so I doubt if the 
> members of the postal union can be trusted to deliver ballots. What I 
> suspect is that beyond legal challenges that are sure to occur, whomever 
> appears to win. Thus, what was the US will descend into open civil 
> conflict. It's not about the orange real estate dude, it's about the rest 
> of us. For instance, I am not a social conservative at all. I hold that 
> your Alcor bet might be a smart one, or that your estimation that humanity  
> will cause the development of Matrioshka brains, eventually, accurate. As 
> of now, the Vanguard Proles are causing discouragement with the archetypal 
> Hillary voter (2016) and causing a drop out for Biden, (Kamala) because 
> they really don't wish BLM-Antifa governance. Since the police pulled out 
> of the Millwaukee convention, I suspect that NOI's Fruit of Islam will do 
> the policing there. Call it  a precursor. 
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Clark >
> To: everyth...@googlegroups.com 
> Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 9:56 am
> Subject: Trump suggests delaying the election
>
> *Trump just Tweeted:*
>
> "*With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 
> 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will 
> be a great embarrassment to the USA, Delay the Election until people can 
> properly, securely and safely vote???*"
>
> Trump floats delaying election despite lack of authority to do so 
> 
>
> John K Clark
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Re: Trump suggests delaying the election

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

Eh! Derangement syndrome again. Yet, its democrat politicians encouraging the 
Vanguard of the Proletariat to burn and loot your center cities, to say, damage 
the economy, so orange man won't be elected. There is strong evidence of mail 
ballots mysteriously gone missing, so I doubt if the members of the postal 
union can be trusted to deliver ballots. What I suspect is that beyond legal 
challenges that are sure to occur, whomever appears to win. Thus, what was the 
US will descend into open civil conflict. It's not about the orange real estate 
dude, it's about the rest of us. For instance, I am not a social conservative 
at all. I hold that your Alcor bet might be a smart one, or that your 
estimation that humanity  will cause the development of Matrioshka brains, 
eventually, accurate. As of now, the Vanguard Proles are causing discouragement 
with the archetypal Hillary voter (2016) and causing a drop out for Biden, 
(Kamala) because they really don't wish BLM-Antifa governance. Since the police 
pulled out of the Millwaukee convention, I suspect that NOI's Fruit of Islam 
will do the policing there. Call it  a precursor. 


-Original Message-
From: John Clark 
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 9:56 am
Subject: Trump suggests delaying the election

Trump just Tweeted:
"With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will 
be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great 
embarrassment to the USA, Delay the Election until people can properly, 
securely and safely vote???"

Trump floats delaying election despite lack of authority to do so

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