RE: IIS QUESTION

[kanee]

in iis5.0 or iis4.0. In iis5.0 yes you can change your service account for iis 
services, but in iis4.0 i am not able to change the service account.



-Original Message-
From: Mike Carlson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 9:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IIS QUESTION


I was able to change the Logon user for the IIS Admin Service and the WWW
service to my local user and my domain user without a problem.

Mike

-Original Message-
From: kanee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 7:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IIS QUESTION


Because here my quest is not to make logs available to webtrends, I know
webtrends can get the logs from any where. My main objective is to store the
iis logs on a different server than the web server because we are hurting for
disk space. So I was saying if I cannot figure out a way to make iis log
directly to the logfile server I will just let iis write to the local server
and then move the logs to the logfile server nightly using a batch file and
then would point webtrends to the logfile server. thanks

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 3:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IIS QUESTION


DUDE - I did read the whole thread.  What it appears you are trying to
accomplish is getting IIS to log everything to a mapped drive or UNC path -
if your web sites are so high traffic as you claim, you wouldn't want to
incur the network overhead of doing that.  So then YOU SAID, and I quote "I
am thinking of just writing them to the local disk and then copy them to the
logfile server every night with a batch file before the webtrends prog runs
to analyse the logs."  I just pointed out that you don't need to write a
batch file - which if you knew you didn't need to write a batch file, why did
you say you would write a batch file.

Yes, I have ideas.

-Original Message-
From: kanee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 3:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IIS QUESTION


dude read thw whole message before answering..not trying to be rude.i
know i dont need a batch file for web trends..if you read my entire problem
you would have known what i was trying to accomplish, if you have any ideas
for my problem i will appreciate it.

thx

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 3:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IIS QUESTION


Webtrends can simply retrieve the log files, you don't need to write a batch
file.

You might also want to move this discussion over to
http://www.15seconds.com/listserv.htm, an IIS5 list where it is more on
topic.  Also, if this is a public website, I would not have them as member
servers of your internal domain

-Original Message-
From: kanee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 3:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IIS QUESTION


i cannot take that risk that comes along with the odbc logging i thought
about it, these are highly visible websites in my organisation and a lot of
traffic.

I am thinking of just writing them to the local disk and then copy them to
the logfile server every night with a batch file before the webtrends prog
runs to analyse the logs.

thx

-Original Message-
From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 3:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: IIS QUESTION


Why can't you log to an ODBC datasource.  This is not as performant as
logging to  a file.

IIS runs under the local system account.  The documentation you are reading
must be incorrect.

A note on IIS Logging.  This is a high performance asynchronous process. So
entries are flushed to disk when processor cycles permit.  ODBC logging will
degrade performance on your server as it is more of a synchronous process and
as such prone to locking.

I suggest you write to disk and then use a perl script to merge the log
files.

--Felicity


> Here is the scenario. i have serverA, serverB and SERVERC(LOG FILE =
> SERVER)
> 
> I need to redirect all the websites log files from serverA and ServerB

> = to serverC.
> 
> In IIS5.0 when you go into the logfile properties and try to change
> the = patch to a mapped drive it clearly says mapped drives and UNC 
> paths are = not supported. But in winNT4.0 it is supported. So i go 
> into the logfile = properties on serverA and serverB and change the 
> logfile path from = %systemroot%\system32\logfiles to 
> f:\logfiles(mapped drive to serverC) = it accepts the path but records

> event id:2 cannot create folder and = cannot write to drive errors. I
> looked it up and the article says that = IIS will write logfiles with 
> the logged on username meaning the account = you use for iisadmin 
> service account and if that account doesnt have = rights on the path 
> it will try and use the system account. When i go to = serverA and 

Re: 2006 Error

[Tony Hlabse]

Not enough of info.  What problems are you having.


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Subject: 2006 Error


> Hi all,
> 
> we are experiencing having 2006 error reported in the eventlog after
> applying the appropriate patch according to Q216264.
> How can I solve it?
> 
> 
> 
> Satoko
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RE: 2006 Error

[Christopher Hummert]

After reading your disclaimer I realised that I'm not the intended
person for this message:
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Sorry

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Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:50 PM
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Subject: 2006 Error


Hi all,

we are experiencing having 2006 error reported in the eventlog after
applying the appropriate patch according to Q216264. How can I solve it?



Satoko



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2006 Error

[Yamazaki, Satoko]

Hi all,

we are experiencing having 2006 error reported in the eventlog after
applying the appropriate patch according to Q216264.
How can I solve it?



Satoko



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RE: This is a screwed up

[Chris Scharff]

I'm not sure how that could get someone in trouble. I mean, isn't that why
companies hire supposedly compotent e-mail administrators? It's not like a
website is required to spoof mail, hell an e-mail client isn't really
necessary.

The only thing I find screwed up is someone else is charging $ to do what
even my SSM can do for free. Course my SSMs are required to read and
demonstrate an understanding of the relavent RFCs their first week on the
job, seeing as how they are e-mail administrators and all.

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard
To: Exchange Discussions
Sent: 6/5/2002 2:35 PM
Subject: This is a screwed up

http://www.mischiefmail.com/ This is kinda of messed up website that
could
get someone in trouble if they dont know how to identify email spoofing.

Rich

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RE: SMTP Queues

[Saunders, Jim]

If the message comes from the information store, it stays there..there is no
intermediate queue on disk, everything is done with pointers in memory
between the store and IIS.  The only things you'd see in the vsi 1\queue
directory are messages submitted via SMTP clients

-Original Message-
From: Davis,Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 7:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Queues


That was the first place I looked. They are not stored in that directory
when an Outlook client creates the message.

-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey A. Beckham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Queues


Exchsrvr\mailroot\vsi 1\queue

-Original Message-
From: Davis,Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:48 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: SMTP Queues
Subject: SMTP Queues

In Exchange 5.5, when a SMTP message bound for a remote host gets queued
because the remote host is temporally down, the message would sit in the IMC
outbound queue as a file on disk usually in the exchsrvr\imcdata\out
directory. This does not seem to be the case for Exchange 2000. Does anyone
know where SMTP queued outbound messages stored?

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RE: Delegation Wizard

[Webb, Andy]

They probably added themselves to the Exchange Domain Servers security
group.  Once there, they can pretty much do anything to the org.

-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:59 PM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: Delegation Wizard
Subject: RE: Delegation Wizard


Basically what is going on is this.  We have 2 admins on the West Coast
that have an exchange server out there.  But since I manage the server
here on the east coast it's in our Admin Group.  Ok the only one that
has Full Admin rights to the Org and AG is me.  No one else.  But all of
a sudden these guys are running this Delegation Wizard and placing
themselves inside the Org and AG.  With no prior account in there to do
this with.  Now I have 2 extra accounts w/Full Admin rights in the Org
and AG.  I asked them how they did that and they said they just ran the
Delegation Wizard.  Does that clear things up?

___
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Leo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delegation Wizard


John, to understand you correctly lets use some examples.
Fred Bloggs has not delegated rights within the exchange organisation
whatsoever Then Fred just runs the Exchange system manager program and
adds himself as an Exchange Full administrator at the organisation
level. Please confirm this is what is happening.

He is a member of what security groups?
Do these groups have any delegated rights in the exchange organisation?

Leo

> I think you are missing the question I'm asking.  They are adding
> themselves without already having an account in org or admin group.  
> See what I'm saying?  They are basically adding anything at any time. 
> Usually you would have to have an account already present.  But there 
> isn't one.
> 
> ___
> John Bowles
> Exchange Administrator
> Enterprise Support & Engineering
> Celera Genomics
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:00 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Delegation Wizard
> 
> 
> They're in the Delegation of Administration Wizard!  Don't give
> Exchange Full Admin rights to those whom you don't want to allow to 
> change permissions.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
> Tech Consultant
> hp Services
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bowles, John

> L.
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:55 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Delegation Wizard
> 
> 
> Ed,
> 
> What permissions are you talking about?  Cause as of now.  They don't
> have any permissions on the Org or the administrative group.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> ___
> John Bowles
> Exchange Administrator
> Enterprise Support & Engineering
> Celera Genomics
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:48 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Delegation Wizard
> 
> 
> Change their permissions so they can't do that.  Security by
> obfuscation is of little value.  What's to stop them from asking the 
> opposite question and reversing what you've done?
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
> Tech Consultant
> hp Services
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bowles, John

> L.
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:49 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Delegation Wizard
> 
> 
> All,
> 
> Is there anyway to remove the Delegation wizard that comes along with
> the install of Exchange 2000?  Currently we have admins that think 
> that it's fun to add themselves as Full Admins on our site.  Can I 
> take care of this somehow?  And what privileges do you need to add 
> yourself?  I can't think of it off the top of my head.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> ___
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RE: SMTP Queues

[Davis,Scott]

That was the first place I looked. They are not stored in that directory
when an Outlook client creates the message.

-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey A. Beckham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Queues


Exchsrvr\mailroot\vsi 1\queue

-Original Message-
From: Davis,Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:48 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: SMTP Queues
Subject: SMTP Queues

In Exchange 5.5, when a SMTP message bound for a remote host gets queued
because the remote host is temporally down, the message would sit in the
IMC outbound queue as a file on disk usually in the exchsrvr\imcdata\out
directory. This does not seem to be the case for Exchange 2000. Does
anyone know where SMTP queued outbound messages stored?

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RE: MBR Recovery?

[Ken Cornetet]

Boot from MSDOS floppy and do "fdisk /mbr". That will re-write the master
boot record. However, I don't think that is your problem. The problem is
that the partition boot block (which is loaded by the MBR) can't find
ntloader.

If your system disk (which is the disk you boot from - as opposed to your
boot disk, which is where your operating system resides - sheesh!) is FAT,
this means that ntloader is gone or corrupt.

If your system disk is NTFS, this may mean that ntloader has "moved". Since
the boot block code can't read an NTFS file system, it depends on a
parameter table that contains the apparent cylinder/head/sector of where
ntloader resides. The NT installer pokes the C/H/S address into the
parameter table when NT installs.

A common cause of this is trying to boot off of an NT mirror of the C: disk
where the mirror does not have the exact same apparent geometry as the
original.

The NT4 resource kit goes into great detail about this.

Whip out the NT setup CDROM and go through the repair process. If the server
is important, pay Microsoft support to walk you through the process.

Alternatively, try re-installing NT to an alternate location (say C:\WINNT2)
and see if it fixes up ntloader.


-Original Message-
From: BW Brandt Ward (5320) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: MBR Recovery?


My exchange server's boot record is toast...only boots with
floppy...without..give the missing or bad ntloader message...
anyone have any luck copying the backup boot record over the corrupt one? If
so, using diskedit or something else?
Thanks,

B

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RE: SMTP Queues

[Jeffrey A. Beckham]

Exchsrvr\mailroot\vsi 1\queue

-Original Message-
From: Davis,Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:48 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: SMTP Queues
Subject: SMTP Queues

In Exchange 5.5, when a SMTP message bound for a remote host gets queued
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directory.
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RE: This is a screwed up

[Slinger, Gary]

M'pleasure...  I have poorly servers.  My tolerance for stupidity,
incompetence and laziness (Tener et al, you know who you are...) is at a
fairly low level.

PEOPLE:  There's a itty bit in the FAQ (page down some, you'll see at LEAST
3 links to it!) all about what to do BEFORE you post.  Try it sometime, huh?
The wealth of response you get just might surprise you.

Richard - the above does not apply to you.  Please return to the light
socket forthwith.

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 22:48
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: This is a screwed up


Gary...

ROFL...You kill me.  Your responses are getting even better than Andy's!  I
think I'm going to have to pass on my "Captain Tact" moniker to you, for
saying what everyone else is thinking!

Thanks for the good chuckle...

Jim Blunt

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From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: This is a screwed up


And you thought that sharing that would be good because?

Go and put your tongue back in the light socket, there's a good boy.

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 20:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: This is a screwed up


http://www.mischiefmail.com/ This is kinda of messed up website that could
get someone in trouble if they dont know how to identify email spoofing.

Rich

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RE: This is a screwed up

[Pillai, Raj]

Gary is coming out with all guns blazing..

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: This is a screwed up


Gary...

ROFL...You kill me.  Your responses are getting even better than Andy's!  I
think I'm going to have to pass on my "Captain Tact" moniker to you, for
saying what everyone else is thinking!

Thanks for the good chuckle...

Jim Blunt

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: This is a screwed up


And you thought that sharing that would be good because?

Go and put your tongue back in the light socket, there's a good boy.

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 20:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: This is a screwed up


http://www.mischiefmail.com/ This is kinda of messed up website that could
get someone in trouble if they dont know how to identify email spoofing.

Rich

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RE: This is a screwed up

[Blunt, James H (Jim)]

Gary...

ROFL...You kill me.  Your responses are getting even better than Andy's!  I
think I'm going to have to pass on my "Captain Tact" moniker to you, for
saying what everyone else is thinking!

Thanks for the good chuckle...

Jim Blunt

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: This is a screwed up


And you thought that sharing that would be good because?

Go and put your tongue back in the light socket, there's a good boy.

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 20:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: This is a screwed up


http://www.mischiefmail.com/ This is kinda of messed up website that could
get someone in trouble if they dont know how to identify email spoofing.

Rich

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Re: A mistake was made...

[missy koslosky]

Laugh at the user.
- Original Message -
From: "Mitchell Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:02 PM
Subject: A mistake was made...


Outlook 98.  exchange 5.5 sp4

User sent out an eMAIL to a large distribution list by mistake.  The
Recall
Message action feature did not work very well on this.
This was very sensitive eMAIL that went out and needs to be trapped
before
too many people read it.  What can I do?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
Alverno Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(317) 532-7800 ext. 6211


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RE: Exch55 exp/imp user mailbox info

[Jeffrey A. Beckham]

ftp://ftppss.microsoft.com/Outgoing/Mail/csvs1.zip


-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:28 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: Exch55 exp/imp user mailbox info
Subject: Exch55 exp/imp user mailbox info

Ive read Q15414 and well I do not happen to have the Exch55 Res Kit

Can anybody give me a  hint/clue on way's get these CSV files and/or
Header.exe tis artical talks about

Im trying to do Address, Tel, etc..updating etc with it

Exch55sp4

thx
bill



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RE: A mistake was made...

[Dupler, Craig]

Gary, you have developed a sense of humor.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: A mistake was made...


If mailbox deletion fails, try FDISK on the server, see if that helps.

-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 21:37
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: A mistake was made...


If it is offensive and you don't want users reading the item then ExMerge
will work. From Q260037: 
If the original message was forwarded with a different subject, the ExMerge
utility cannot delete the message based on the original message subject line
or MTS-ID. 

If the Item Retention option is turned on, the message may be available for
recovery on the Outlook client.

If the message is very sensitive and needs to be totally eradicated... It's
a mailbox, by mailbox deletion.

-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: A mistake was made...


Use ExMerge to pull it out of the stores.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

> --
> From: Mitchell Mike
> Reply To: Exchange Discussions
> Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2002 14:02
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  A mistake was made...
> 
> Outlook 98.  exchange 5.5 sp4
> 
> User sent out an eMAIL to a large distribution list by mistake.  The
> Recall Message action feature did not work very well on this.
> This was very sensitive eMAIL that went out and needs to be trapped before
> too many people read it.  What can I do?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mike Mitchell
> Systems eMAIL Administrator
> Alverno Information Services
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (317) 532-7800 ext. 6211
> 
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RE: Messaging & collaboration (Unified Messaging)

[Dupler, Craig]

Partial data dump.  Maybe more will come later, but there is a lot of stuff
in the archives.
1. Messaging & Collaboration
Both are poorly defined.  There are really at least three distinctly
different things that people mean when they use the term "messaging," and
probably many more.

One kind of messaging is about RFC 822 and friends. It is simple body part 3
e-mail, with a possibility of attachments.  It includes the X.400 and
proprietary systems too, but the RFC's define the core of reality.
A second kind deals with low level application components talking to each
other, usually through a brokerage service such as CORBA or COM.  It gets
confused with RFC 822 messaging because there is such a thing as "message
enabled applications."  Actually there are two kinds.  One uses high level
applications like spreadsheets and databases talking to each other via
e-mail.  The other happens at the level of C libraries.  Unfortunately, both
use the exact same name ("message enabled applications") so much of the
literature about this topic is confused gibberish and tripe (that's being
kind).
The third kind of messaging is a generic reference to the realm of tools
that come with Exchange and Notes, and includes all of that stuff that we
expect a "messaging system" to take care of.  Which gets us into
"collaboration."

Collaboration is seamless communication that permits mixing voice, video,
and data at will, as needed, in real-time or on a store and forward basis,
all supported by appropriate notification and alert services, and most
importantly end user policy enforcement point (PEP) tools (think "rules
engines").

2. Unified Messaging
Oh sys admin, where art thou?  There is a line in the film where Junior
tells Pappy that "we gotta get some of that reform."  Unified Messaging is
sort of like that.  One of the positive attributes of X.400 (1988 or later)
was that it did a very good job of generalizing the e-mail kind of messaging
services.  The RFC's have copied that poorly, but the basic idea is that
there is no real difference between e-mail, voice-mail, fax, video mail, or
higher level message enabled applications messages.  They are all simply
specific cases of the same thing.  Unified messaging means treating them as
such.  So, a message store should not care what the message types are that
it contains, except of course that it should be able to identify the message
types by attribute.  It is absolutely ludicrous to talk about unified
messaging and non-integrated or separate message stores.  And yet, when it
became popular to talk about unified messaging a few years ago, all of the
vendors of the legacy systems said "we gotta get some of that unified
messaging."  In fact, with perfectly straight faces, all of these turkeys
began claiming that their legacy products already had it.  It really was
that silly, and almost exactly as portrayed in the movie.

But even more pathetic, was that most of the customer community bought all
of that nonsense, and people actually began calling all sorts of non-unified
systems "unified."  It was sickening.  It still is.  Using one client to
view multiple non-integrated message stores is not unified messaging, even
if you can name three vendors that say it is.  But I concede, you can never
underestimate the gullibility of an IS techie.

1. Why it is happening (who it is for)?  Let's face it, no one would start
from scratch and invent DTMF, ISDN, the IEEE 802.3 family, voice mail,
e-mail, FAX and FAX data as a family of solutions for equipping the
Enterprise.  The Klingons would win every time.  In many ways it is about
cleaning up the past 130 years of electronic communications systems and
getting to something that makes sense in the current era.  

2. Who is making it happening (vendors)?  No.  You are.  All technology
expands and reaches critical mass based on demand.  Ask anyone who lost
money in the .COM bust.  At the end of the day, sales drive everything.

3. How is it happening (solutions)?  One desktop or mobile user at a time.

More later.

-Original Message-
From: Dupler, Craig 
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 4:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Messaging & collaboration (Unified Messaging)


Catch me in the right mood and maybe I will do a data dump for you . . .



-Original Message-
From: Leonard Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 21:33
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Messaging & collaboration (Unified Messaging)


Iam looking for information on:
1. Messaging & Collaboration
2. Unified Messaging

The type of information I am looking for is on:
1. Why it is happening (who it is for)
2. Who is making it happening (vendors)
3. How is it happening (solutions)

Looking for Articles?  Consortiums?

Note: I've got Technet, so I already have the Microsoft view on this topic.

Thanks in advanced,
Leonard

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RE: Where is everyone?

[Slinger, Gary]

Clue one:  If you want to change the subject, change the fscking subject
line.  eh?

Clue two:  http://relays.osirusoft.com


-Original Message-
From: Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 22:32
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Where is everyone?


Hey what is a good online scanner to test for an open relay (mail server)
with out submitting to a database... Just to check if you are ok.

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RE: A mistake was made...

[Slinger, Gary]

If mailbox deletion fails, try FDISK on the server, see if that helps.

-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 21:37
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: A mistake was made...


If it is offensive and you don't want users reading the item then ExMerge
will work. From Q260037: 
If the original message was forwarded with a different subject, the ExMerge
utility cannot delete the message based on the original message subject line
or MTS-ID. 

If the Item Retention option is turned on, the message may be available for
recovery on the Outlook client.

If the message is very sensitive and needs to be totally eradicated... It's
a mailbox, by mailbox deletion.

-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: A mistake was made...


Use ExMerge to pull it out of the stores.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

> --
> From: Mitchell Mike
> Reply To: Exchange Discussions
> Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2002 14:02
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  A mistake was made...
> 
> Outlook 98.  exchange 5.5 sp4
> 
> User sent out an eMAIL to a large distribution list by mistake.  The
> Recall Message action feature did not work very well on this.
> This was very sensitive eMAIL that went out and needs to be trapped before
> too many people read it.  What can I do?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mike Mitchell
> Systems eMAIL Administrator
> Alverno Information Services
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (317) 532-7800 ext. 6211
> 
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RE: This is a screwed up

[Slinger, Gary]

And you thought that sharing that would be good because?

Go and put your tongue back in the light socket, there's a good boy.

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 20:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: This is a screwed up


http://www.mischiefmail.com/ This is kinda of messed up website that could
get someone in trouble if they dont know how to identify email spoofing.

Rich

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RE: Where is everyone?

[Glaman, Mark]

http://www.abuse.net/relay.html

This one works great

Mark

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Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Where is everyone?


Hey what is a good online scanner to test for an open relay (mail server)
with out submitting to a database... Just to check if you are ok.

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RE: Where is everyone?

[Exchange Discussions]

Hey what is a good online scanner to test for an open relay (mail server)
with out submitting to a database... Just to check if you are ok.

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RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange

[Slinger, Gary]

Jon,

Space management and server growth is something that I'm very interested in,
as it has a very real effect on my day to day management strategies.  I'm
vaguely familiar with Roger and the work he's done (something to do with
"mergers and acquisitions" for Peregrine, I believe) and I was wondering if
you could clarify your experience in the Exchange community so that we can
draw a frame of reference?

Gary

-Original Message-
From: Jon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 19:59
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange


That's quite a leap, to say that offline maintenance is causing 2 or 3
mailboxes out of 1200 to be unable to respond to specific meeting requests,
even though it's been running for years without a single problem.  Might
want to reconsider your logic on that one -- there's not a shred of evidence
that suggests it's a "direct result."  :)

The main reason we do offline defragging every 6 months is because our store
size is NOT constant, not by a long stretch.  Our organization has specific
needs and usage trends that cause a great deal of unallocated space to pile
up from time to time.  Historically we've been unable to extend the physical
space on the servers due to financial restraints, so we've been forced to
make do with the limited space by compacting the database from time to time.
Thankfully, this paradigm is changing around here so hopefully we can get
some new space and forget about it altogether.  I was really more interested
in hearing the other arguments just to satisfy my own curiosity.  Thanks for
everyone's response!

Jon

> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:46 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange
> 
> 
> Seeing as the problem you're experiencing is most likely the
> direct result of one of your offline database management 
> practices, you might want to change your thinking on it.
> 
> The only time I've ever seen a good reason to do them is
> following a large scale change on a server - like migrating 
> 30GB of user data off it.
> 
> Exchange does a phenominal job of self-managing the database.
> Better than you can do, with few exceptions.
> 
> Take the compacting process - you do it every 6 months
> (IIRC). Why? I'd bet that the store hits a relatively 
> constant size at the end of that 6 month period, and all 
> things considered, the amount of white space stays relatively 
> consistent. So, in a nutshell, you're doing something that 
> has no upside, yet has the very real possibility of causing damage.
> 
> Roger
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Peregrine Systems
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:29 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange
> > 
> > 
> > I'm interested in hearing some sound arguments on why offline 
> > maintenance should *not* be performed ... I've heard/read quite a 
> > few people cringing
> > about it, but can never back it up.  I've been doing it for 
> > years without a
> > hitch; I think as long as the proper precautions are taken 
> and proper
> > trending and planning is performed instead of just defragging
> > willy-nilly,
> > it's a pretty safe thing to do.  I'm interested in hearing 
> > the other side,
> > though ... anyone?
> > Jon
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:42 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I'd bet the same people who say not to do exactly what you are 
> > > doing are VERY comfortable with esetuil and isinteg.
> > > 
> > > That's precisely why they say *not* to do it.
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> > > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > > Peregrine Systems
> > > Atlanta, GA
> > > 
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RE: A mistake was made...

[Slinger, Gary]

Hire someone with more than half a clue to administer your messaging
environment.

Hell, you never know, they might even be able to search Technet.

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 20:03
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: A mistake was made...


Outlook 98.  exchange 5.5 sp4

User sent out an eMAIL to a large distribution list by mistake.  The Recall
Message action feature did not work very well on this. This was very
sensitive eMAIL that went out and needs to be trapped before too many people
read it.  What can I do?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
Alverno Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(317) 532-7800 ext. 6211


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Re: MBR Recovery?

[Tony Hlabse]

Did you try Technet or MS's KB. Never had that happen.
- Original Message -
From: "BW Brandt Ward (5320)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:07 PM
Subject: OT: MBR Recovery?


> My exchange server's boot record is toast...only boots with
> floppy...without..give the missing or bad ntloader message...
> anyone have any luck copying the backup boot record over the corrupt one?
If
> so, using diskedit or something else?
> Thanks,
>
> B
>
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RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange

[Slinger, Gary]

Very elegantly put, nice one.  I'm "borrowing" that one, to apply to someone
I know later...

G.

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 18:59
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange


The reasons why I don't do it are:

1. It's unnecessary.
2. I have a life.
3. Unnecessary downtime is frowned upon in a 24x7 shop.
4. I don't need to justify my existence by doing useless administrative
work.

It's like disassembling your car's axles and clean your shocks every weekend
as "scheduled maintenance".  As long as you are careful, it's pretty safe to
do so.  But, why bother?  

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Jon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange


I'm interested in hearing some sound arguments on why offline maintenance
should *not* be performed ... I've heard/read quite a few people cringing
about it, but can never back it up.  I've been doing it for years without a
hitch; I think as long as the proper precautions are taken and proper
trending and planning is performed instead of just defragging willy-nilly,
it's a pretty safe thing to do.  I'm interested in hearing the other side,
though ... anyone? Jon

> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:42 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange
> 
> 
> I'd bet the same people who say not to do exactly what you are doing 
> are VERY comfortable with esetuil and isinteg.
> 
> That's precisely why they say *not* to do it.
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Peregrine Systems
> Atlanta, GA
> 

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RE: A mistake was made...

[Schwartz, Jim]

You lost me for a second there Craig. We were talking about a message not
the entire mailbox, but the same principle applies to a "deleted" message
correct?

-Original Message-
From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: A mistake was made...


A mailbox is not a container, but rather a view of a subset of the objects
within a container having some common attribute (i.e. belong to a specific
mailbox).  Deleting a mailbox is NOT the same thing as deleting a container
and its contents.  Deleting a mailbox merely deletes a view and nulls out
the appropriate attributes.  Deleting a mailbox does not cause a message
object to be expunged, at least not directly.

Think of it like this.  If a TV show is only available on cable channel 89
and you eliminate 100% of the subscribers that had the ability to view
channel 89, that does not destroy the source.  It might lead to a garbage
collection exercise that will cause a purge to occur, but deleting the views
is not deleting the data.



-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: A mistake was made...


If it is offensive and you don't want users reading the item then ExMerge
will work. From Q260037: 
If the original message was forwarded with a different subject, the ExMerge
utility cannot delete the message based on the original message subject line
or MTS-ID. 

If the Item Retention option is turned on, the message may be available for
recovery on the Outlook client.

If the message is very sensitive and needs to be totally eradicated... It's
a mailbox, by mailbox deletion.

-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: A mistake was made...


Use ExMerge to pull it out of the stores.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

> --
> From: Mitchell Mike
> Reply To: Exchange Discussions
> Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2002 14:02
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  A mistake was made...
> 
> Outlook 98.  exchange 5.5 sp4
> 
> User sent out an eMAIL to a large distribution list by mistake.  The
> Recall Message action feature did not work very well on this.
> This was very sensitive eMAIL that went out and needs to be trapped before
> too many people read it.  What can I do?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mike Mitchell
> Systems eMAIL Administrator
> Alverno Information Services
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (317) 532-7800 ext. 6211
> 
> 
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RE: MEC 2002

[Slinger, Gary]

It's just a thought, but did it occur to you to actually look at the fscking
MEC website?  And perchance at where the hotels are in relation to the
conference center?  Or even the part of the clearly totally irrelevant page
where it STATES that shuttles will be available from some of the hotels just
like EVERY OTHER FREAKIN' MEC CONFERENCE 

Or was that too difficult?  Or is your time somehow more valuable than ours?

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 20:21
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: MEC 2002


Are shuttles available from hotels around the conference?  I don't think I
will be able to get a car.
 

Michael Woodruff 
System Administrator 
  inChord Communications Inc. 
A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 
614.543.6405 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

personalmail

 

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OT: MBR Recovery?

[BW Brandt Ward (5320)]

My exchange server's boot record is toast...only boots with
floppy...without..give the missing or bad ntloader message...
anyone have any luck copying the backup boot record over the corrupt one? If
so, using diskedit or something else?
Thanks,

B

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RE: A mistake was made...

[Dupler, Craig]

A mailbox is not a container, but rather a view of a subset of the objects
within a container having some common attribute (i.e. belong to a specific
mailbox).  Deleting a mailbox is NOT the same thing as deleting a container
and its contents.  Deleting a mailbox merely deletes a view and nulls out
the appropriate attributes.  Deleting a mailbox does not cause a message
object to be expunged, at least not directly.

Think of it like this.  If a TV show is only available on cable channel 89
and you eliminate 100% of the subscribers that had the ability to view
channel 89, that does not destroy the source.  It might lead to a garbage
collection exercise that will cause a purge to occur, but deleting the views
is not deleting the data.



-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: A mistake was made...


If it is offensive and you don't want users reading the item then ExMerge
will work. From Q260037: 
If the original message was forwarded with a different subject, the ExMerge
utility cannot delete the message based on the original message subject line
or MTS-ID. 

If the Item Retention option is turned on, the message may be available for
recovery on the Outlook client.

If the message is very sensitive and needs to be totally eradicated... It's
a mailbox, by mailbox deletion.

-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: A mistake was made...


Use ExMerge to pull it out of the stores.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

> --
> From: Mitchell Mike
> Reply To: Exchange Discussions
> Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2002 14:02
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  A mistake was made...
> 
> Outlook 98.  exchange 5.5 sp4
> 
> User sent out an eMAIL to a large distribution list by mistake.  The 
> Recall Message action feature did not work very well on this.
> This was very sensitive eMAIL that went out and needs to be trapped before
> too many people read it.  What can I do?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mike Mitchell
> Systems eMAIL Administrator
> Alverno Information Services
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (317) 532-7800 ext. 6211
> 
> 
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RE: MEC 2002

[Erik Sojka]

According to the map, the hotels are at most a block away from the
conference center.  You should be fine with that + a taxi for the airport.  


> -Original Message-
> From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:21 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: MEC 2002
> 
> 
> Are shuttles available from hotels around the conference?  I 
> don't think I
> will be able to get a car.
>  
> 
> Michael Woodruff 
> System Administrator 
>   inChord Communications Inc. 
> A group of communications companies providing clients 
> unlimited visibility 
> 614.543.6405 
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> personalmail
> 
>  
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RE: Delegation Wizard

[Bowles, John L.]

Basically what is going on is this.  We have 2 admins on the West Coast
that have an exchange server out there.  But since I manage the server
here on the east coast it's in our Admin Group.  Ok the only one that
has Full Admin rights to the Org and AG is me.  No one else.  But all of
a sudden these guys are running this Delegation Wizard and placing
themselves inside the Org and AG.  With no prior account in there to do
this with.  Now I have 2 extra accounts w/Full Admin rights in the Org
and AG.  I asked them how they did that and they said they just ran the
Delegation Wizard.  Does that clear things up?

___
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Leo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delegation Wizard


John, to understand you correctly lets use some examples.
Fred Bloggs has not delegated rights within the exchange organisation
whatsoever Then Fred just runs the Exchange system manager program and
adds himself as an Exchange Full administrator at the organisation
level. Please confirm this is what is happening.

He is a member of what security groups?
Do these groups have any delegated rights in the exchange organisation?

Leo

> I think you are missing the question I'm asking.  They are adding 
> themselves without already having an account in org or admin group.  
> See what I'm saying?  They are basically adding anything at any time. 
> Usually you would have to have an account already present.  But there 
> isn't one.
> 
> ___
> John Bowles
> Exchange Administrator
> Enterprise Support & Engineering
> Celera Genomics
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:00 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Delegation Wizard
> 
> 
> They're in the Delegation of Administration Wizard!  Don't give 
> Exchange Full Admin rights to those whom you don't want to allow to 
> change permissions.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
> Tech Consultant
> hp Services
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bowles, John

> L.
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:55 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Delegation Wizard
> 
> 
> Ed,
> 
> What permissions are you talking about?  Cause as of now.  They don't 
> have any permissions on the Org or the administrative group.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> ___
> John Bowles
> Exchange Administrator
> Enterprise Support & Engineering
> Celera Genomics
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:48 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Delegation Wizard
> 
> 
> Change their permissions so they can't do that.  Security by 
> obfuscation is of little value.  What's to stop them from asking the 
> opposite question and reversing what you've done?
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
> Tech Consultant
> hp Services
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bowles, John

> L.
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:49 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Delegation Wizard
> 
> 
> All,
> 
> Is there anyway to remove the Delegation wizard that comes along with 
> the install of Exchange 2000?  Currently we have admins that think 
> that it's fun to add themselves as Full Admins on our site.  Can I 
> take care of this somehow?  And what privileges do you need to add 
> yourself?  I can't think of it off the top of my head.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> ___
> John Bowles
> Exchange Administrator
> Enterprise Support & Engineering
> Celera Genomics
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20
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RE: Delegation Wizard

[Leo]

John, to understand you correctly lets use some examples.
Fred Bloggs has not delegated rights within the exchange organisation
whatsoever
Then Fred just runs the Exchange system manager program and adds himself
as an Exchange Full administrator at the organisation level.
Please confirm this is what is happening.

He is a member of what security groups?
Do these groups have any delegated rights in the exchange organisation?

Leo

> I think you are missing the question I'm asking.  They are adding
> themselves without already having an account in org or admin group.  See
> what I'm saying?  They are basically adding anything at any time.
> Usually you would have to have an account already present.  But there
> isn't one.
> 
> ___
> John Bowles
> Exchange Administrator
> Enterprise Support & Engineering
> Celera Genomics
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:00 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Delegation Wizard
> 
> 
> They're in the Delegation of Administration Wizard!  Don't give Exchange
> Full Admin rights to those whom you don't want to allow to change
> permissions.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
> Tech Consultant
> hp Services
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bowles, John
> L.
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:55 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Delegation Wizard
> 
> 
> Ed,
> 
> What permissions are you talking about?  Cause as of now.  They don't
> have any permissions on the Org or the administrative group.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> ___
> John Bowles
> Exchange Administrator
> Enterprise Support & Engineering
> Celera Genomics
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:48 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Delegation Wizard
> 
> 
> Change their permissions so they can't do that.  Security by obfuscation
> is of little value.  What's to stop them from asking the opposite
> question and reversing what you've done?
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
> Tech Consultant
> hp Services
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bowles, John
> L.
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:49 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Delegation Wizard
> 
> 
> All,
> 
> Is there anyway to remove the Delegation wizard that comes along with
> the install of Exchange 2000?  Currently we have admins that think that
> it's fun to add themselves as Full Admins on our site.  Can I take care
> of this somehow?  And what privileges do you need to add yourself?  I
> can't think of it off the top of my head.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> ___
> John Bowles
> Exchange Administrator
> Enterprise Support & Engineering
> Celera Genomics
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20
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RE: Facsys 2000 Fax/Exchange 2000 connector has died with weird m messages

[Arch Willingham]

We had a problem with the initial Exchange 2000 install and had to re-do it. I noticed 
that my name does not have any FAX or FACSYS attributes...should it?

Arch

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Facsys 2000 Fax/Exchange 2000 connector has died with weird
m essages


I had a problem similar to this.  Use something like ASDI and look at the
users Target Address attribute.  It might have something in it.  Not sure
how it gets there, but that is what happened to me.  Just a thought.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Facsys 2000 Fax/Exchange 2000 connector has died with weird
messages


This is from www.Eventid.net

We have seen this message when an Exchange custom recipient is deleted and
someone tries to send an email to that account BEFORE the global address
list is recreated. However there are other potential reasons for this
message to occur. See the articles below for more info.

Try these links  Q259343 , Q230497 , Q169715 , Q180547


- Original Message -
From: "Arch Willingham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:01 PM
Subject: RE: Facsys 2000 Fax/Exchange 2000 connector has died with weird
messages


Yeah...the mail is flowing fine between sites. You can't really ask Optus
anymore...you have to buy a support incident from their tech support
provider. It seemed like it was something I did and not them due to the
weird routing message.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Facsys 2000 Fax/Exchange 2000 connector has died with weird
messages


Is the mail flowing between the two sites OK. What did Optus say?


- Original Message -
From: "Arch Willingham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:39 AM
Subject: Facsys 2000 Fax/Exchange 2000 connector has died with weird
messages


We use Optus's Facsys 2000 Fax/Exchange 2000 connector with Exchange 2000.
We had previously used the same company's fax connector with Exchange 5.5
with great success. After we upgraded to Exchange 2000, we installed the new
Facsys software and sent some test e-mails to fax numbers and it worked
fine.

Later, we has installed the site connector with another site (I think that's
not what its called now but that's my terminology - sorry) and now any
messages that get sent to a fax number give an error message like the
following:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: MSExchangeMTA
Event Category: X.400 Service
Event ID: 290
Date: 06/05/2002
Time: 10:28:44 AM
User: N/A
Computer: DOG
Description:
A non-delivery report (reason code unable-to-transfer and diagnostic code
unrecognised-OR-name) is being generated for message C=US;A=
;P=Reagan;L=DOG-020605142840Z-115. It was originally destined for C=US;A=
;P=Reagan;O=Truck;DDA:FAX=Arch Willingham(a)+1 (800) 555-1212; (recipient
number 1), and was to be redirected to . [MTA DISP:RESULT 17 136] (12)

Also, it sends me an NDR that says:

The following recipient(s) could not be reached:

  Arch Willingham (Business Fax) on 06/05/2002 10:29 AM
The e-mail address could not be found.  Perhaps the recipient
moved to a different e-mail organization, or there was a mistake in the
address.  Check the address and try again.The MTS-ID of the original message
is:c=US;a= ;p=Parks;l=DOG-020605142840Z-115
MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:AREA1:DOG


The weird part is that it looks like it is trying to send it to the other
site (Truck) instead of going on out the fax server. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Arch Willingham

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RE: A mistake was made...

[Schwartz, Jim]

If it is offensive and you don't want users reading the item then ExMerge
will work. From Q260037: 
If the original message was forwarded with a different subject, the ExMerge
utility cannot delete the message based on the original message subject line
or MTS-ID. 

If the Item Retention option is turned on, the message may be available for
recovery on the Outlook client.

If the message is very sensitive and needs to be totally eradicated... It's
a mailbox, by mailbox deletion.

-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: A mistake was made...


Use ExMerge to pull it out of the stores.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

> --
> From: Mitchell Mike
> Reply To: Exchange Discussions
> Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2002 14:02
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  A mistake was made...
> 
> Outlook 98.  exchange 5.5 sp4
> 
> User sent out an eMAIL to a large distribution list by mistake.  The 
> Recall Message action feature did not work very well on this.
> This was very sensitive eMAIL that went out and needs to be trapped before
> too many people read it.  What can I do?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mike Mitchell
> Systems eMAIL Administrator
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RE: Public Folder - drag/drop

[Manning, Tammie]

Oh but of course they need to view too... they want it a.  But hey,
I like the HR policy suggestion .

-Original Message-
From: Setmajer, Jerzy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public Folder - drag/drop


Do they need to view that folder?
If not - make it visible in the address book but limit default access to
that of contributor only.
This way they can send messages to it but cannot drop into it. 

Or

Have your HR make "accidental" dropping of stuff into public folders a
"termination" offense. 5 folks later - no accidents.  

-Original Message-
From: Manning, Tammie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public Folder - drag/drop


 oddly enough users are 'accidentally' dropping stuff in a specific pf
and then freaking out when they realize that the entire firm has seen
something they shouldn't have.  The management figures if we restrict the
drag/drop, then there will be no accidents.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public Folder - drag/drop


lol. Whatever for?

> -Original Message-
> From: TM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:33 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Public Folder - drag/drop
> 
> 
> Anyone know a way to disable users from dragging & dropping 
> items to a public folder - I want them to be able to post to 
> the folder, but not be
> able to drag/drop items in it.   Thanks!

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RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange

[Ed Crowley]

That would figure.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jon Butler
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange


Quite frankly, it's because a manager somewhere thought it would be a
good idea and wouldn't argue about it.  :)


> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:53 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange
> 
> 
> That explains why you'd do a periodic eseutil /d, and it's
> not a bad reason.  However, it doesn't explain why you'd do 
> the rest of the stuff you described.  You should do the other 
> stuff on a database you restore to your recovery server.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
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> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jon Butler
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:59 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange
> 
> 
> That's quite a leap, to say that offline maintenance is
> causing 2 or 3 mailboxes out of 1200 to be unable to respond 
> to specific meeting requests, even though it's been running 
> for years without a single problem.  Might want to reconsider 
> your logic on that one -- there's not a shred of evidence 
> that suggests it's a "direct result."  :)
> 
> The main reason we do offline defragging every 6 months is
> because our store size is NOT constant, not by a long 
> stretch.  Our organization has specific needs and usage 
> trends that cause a great deal of unallocated space to pile 
> up from time to time.  Historically we've been unable to 
> extend the physical space on the servers due to financial 
> restraints, so we've been forced to make do with the limited 
> space by compacting the database from time to time. 
> Thankfully, this paradigm is changing around here so 
> hopefully we can get some new space and forget about it 
> altogether.  I was really more interested in hearing the 
> other arguments just to satisfy my own curiosity.  Thanks for 
> everyone's response!
> 
> Jon
> 
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RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange

[Jon Butler]

Quite frankly, it's because a manager somewhere thought it would be a good
idea and wouldn't argue about it.  :)


> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:53 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange
> 
> 
> That explains why you'd do a periodic eseutil /d, and it's 
> not a bad reason.  However, it doesn't explain why you'd do 
> the rest of the stuff you described.  You should do the other 
> stuff on a database you restore to your recovery server.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
> Tech Consultant
> hp Services
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jon Butler
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:59 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange
> 
> 
> That's quite a leap, to say that offline maintenance is 
> causing 2 or 3 mailboxes out of 1200 to be unable to respond 
> to specific meeting requests, even though it's been running 
> for years without a single problem.  Might want to reconsider 
> your logic on that one -- there's not a shred of evidence 
> that suggests it's a "direct result."  :)
> 
> The main reason we do offline defragging every 6 months is 
> because our store size is NOT constant, not by a long 
> stretch.  Our organization has specific needs and usage 
> trends that cause a great deal of unallocated space to pile 
> up from time to time.  Historically we've been unable to 
> extend the physical space on the servers due to financial 
> restraints, so we've been forced to make do with the limited 
> space by compacting the database from time to time. 
> Thankfully, this paradigm is changing around here so 
> hopefully we can get some new space and forget about it 
> altogether.  I was really more interested in hearing the 
> other arguments just to satisfy my own curiosity.  Thanks for 
> everyone's response!
> 
> Jon
> 
> 
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RE: Delegation Wizard

[Bowles, John L.]

I think you are missing the question I'm asking.  They are adding
themselves without already having an account in org or admin group.  See
what I'm saying?  They are basically adding anything at any time.
Usually you would have to have an account already present.  But there
isn't one.

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-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delegation Wizard


They're in the Delegation of Administration Wizard!  Don't give Exchange
Full Admin rights to those whom you don't want to allow to change
permissions.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bowles, John
L.
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delegation Wizard


Ed,

What permissions are you talking about?  Cause as of now.  They don't
have any permissions on the Org or the administrative group.

Thanks,

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Exchange Administrator
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Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delegation Wizard


Change their permissions so they can't do that.  Security by obfuscation
is of little value.  What's to stop them from asking the opposite
question and reversing what you've done?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bowles, John
L.
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Delegation Wizard


All,

Is there anyway to remove the Delegation wizard that comes along with
the install of Exchange 2000?  Currently we have admins that think that
it's fun to add themselves as Full Admins on our site.  Can I take care
of this somehow?  And what privileges do you need to add yourself?  I
can't think of it off the top of my head.

TIA,

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RE: Delegation Wizard

[Ed Crowley]

They're in the Delegation of Administration Wizard!  Don't give Exchange
Full Admin rights to those whom you don't want to allow to change
permissions.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bowles, John
L.
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delegation Wizard


Ed,

What permissions are you talking about?  Cause as of now.  They don't
have any permissions on the Org or the administrative group.

Thanks,

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Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delegation Wizard


Change their permissions so they can't do that.  Security by obfuscation
is of little value.  What's to stop them from asking the opposite
question and reversing what you've done?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bowles, John
L.
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Delegation Wizard


All,

Is there anyway to remove the Delegation wizard that comes along with
the install of Exchange 2000?  Currently we have admins that think that
it's fun to add themselves as Full Admins on our site.  Can I take care
of this somehow?  And what privileges do you need to add yourself?  I
can't think of it off the top of my head.

TIA,

___
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Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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RE: MEC 2002

[Ed Crowley]

The "official" hotels, that is.  Sometimes they add a couple of extra
hotels to the routes when so requested.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Glaman, Mark
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MEC 2002


Yes.. they have been in the past

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: MEC 2002


Are shuttles available from hotels around the conference?  I don't think
I will be able to get a car.
 

Michael Woodruff 
System Administrator 
  inChord Communications Inc. 
A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited
visibility 
614.543.6405 
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RE: Public Folder - drag/drop

[Ed Crowley]

Take away their keyboards and mice.

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-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of TM
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Public Folder - drag/drop


Anyone know a way to disable users from dragging & dropping items to a
public folder - I want them to be able to post to the folder, but not be
able to drag/drop items in it.   Thanks!

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RE: A mistake was made...

[Ed Crowley]

All together:

"There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."

I hope you've now learned the value of applying permissions to large
distribution lists.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mitchell Mike
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: A mistake was made...


Outlook 98.  exchange 5.5 sp4

User sent out an eMAIL to a large distribution list by mistake.  The
Recall Message action feature did not work very well on this. This was
very sensitive eMAIL that went out and needs to be trapped before too
many people read it.  What can I do?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Email Restriction Ex5.5 sp4

[Ed Crowley]

Also in the Internet Mail Service or SMTP Connector properties.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email Restriction Ex5.5 sp4


Delivery Restrictions...Reject messages from

You'd have to do this to every recipient, mailbox, or list that you
don't want this user to send to.  Should be able to do this with a
Directory export/import using the Header tool.

-Original Message-
From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email Restriction Ex5.5 sp4


It's the same question just clarified further...

To restate "I want to set up an internal user to only be able to send
email to a single internal distribution list."



-Original Message-
From: Setmajer, Jerzy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email Restriction Ex5.5 sp4


first there was a "restricting outbound email from a user"
now there is "an internal user" to "send email to a single internal
distribution list" Make up your mind and re-state the question please.

Jerzy



-Original Message-
From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email Restriction Ex5.5 sp4


I don't believe that achieves what I am after.  I want to set up an
internal user to only be able to send email to a single internal
distribution list.

-Original Message-
From: Setmajer, Jerzy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email Restriction Ex5.5 sp4


create custom recipient and set restrictions on it

-Original Message-
From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Email Restriction Ex5.5 sp4


Can't seem to get into the archives right now...

How do I go about restricting outbound email from a user to only
particular internal recipients?

I see how to stop the receipt of messages unless from specifics, but not
how to restrict outbound.

Thanks

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RE: Delegation Wizard

[Bowles, John L.]

Ed,

What permissions are you talking about?  Cause as of now.  They don't
have any permissions on the Org or the administrative group.

Thanks,

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Enterprise Support & Engineering
Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delegation Wizard


Change their permissions so they can't do that.  Security by obfuscation
is of little value.  What's to stop them from asking the opposite
question and reversing what you've done?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
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-Original Message-
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L.
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Subject: Delegation Wizard


All,

Is there anyway to remove the Delegation wizard that comes along with
the install of Exchange 2000?  Currently we have admins that think that
it's fun to add themselves as Full Admins on our site.  Can I take care
of this somehow?  And what privileges do you need to add yourself?  I
can't think of it off the top of my head.

TIA,

___
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Celera Genomics
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RE: stupid disclaimers

[Ed Crowley]

Now you can work on that autosignature!

(I know, I'm one to talk...)

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Woodruff,
Michael
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:47 AM
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Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers


Alright, alright.  There.  Fortunately Mailsweeper allows you to bypass
by adding personalmail in the body somewhere.  Are you happy?

Michael Woodruff 
System Administrator 
inChord Communications Inc. 
A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited
visibility 
614.543.6405 
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personalmail


-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers


if it's a litmus test

-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers


Does printing the message out and pissing on the paper constitute
"action"?

> -Original Message-
> From: East, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:37 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
> 
> 
> I'm taking action on your message. I'm taking action on it right now. 
> Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah.
> 
> Tell your lawyers to get their $49.95 back from "J.D.'s 'R' Us."
> 
> --
> be - MOS
> 
> 
> 
> Noone ever built a statue to a critic.
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:31 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
> > 
> > 
> > Do think this was my design?  Our lawyers think we need
> this.  Like it
> > actually performs some kind of function.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:23 PM
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> > Subject: stupid disclaimers
> > 
> > 
> > I think I might just start blocking messages with moronic 
> > disclaimers before they even get to my system. I feel dumber just 
> > for having read the disclaimer below.
> > 
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RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange

[Ed Crowley]

That explains why you'd do a periodic eseutil /d, and it's not a bad
reason.  However, it doesn't explain why you'd do the rest of the stuff
you described.  You should do the other stuff on a database you restore
to your recovery server.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jon Butler
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange


That's quite a leap, to say that offline maintenance is causing 2 or 3
mailboxes out of 1200 to be unable to respond to specific meeting
requests, even though it's been running for years without a single
problem.  Might want to reconsider your logic on that one -- there's not
a shred of evidence that suggests it's a "direct result."  :)

The main reason we do offline defragging every 6 months is because our
store size is NOT constant, not by a long stretch.  Our organization has
specific needs and usage trends that cause a great deal of unallocated
space to pile up from time to time.  Historically we've been unable to
extend the physical space on the servers due to financial restraints, so
we've been forced to make do with the limited space by compacting the
database from time to time. Thankfully, this paradigm is changing around
here so hopefully we can get some new space and forget about it
altogether.  I was really more interested in hearing the other arguments
just to satisfy my own curiosity.  Thanks for everyone's response!

Jon


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RE: part2 - Exch55 exp/imp user mailbox-contact info

[Mellott, Bill]

thx for the hint Ed, didn't see it yet.
Many good things on that site..side tracked again...damn curiousity..
thx
bill

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: part2 - Exch55 exp/imp user mailbox-contact info


http://www.cdolive.com

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mellott, Bill
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: part2 - Exch55 exp/imp user mailbox-contact info


Can anyone shead some light on how I might Import and export directly to
a users contacts? not via OL... Independent of the client being open.

Would like to be able to "dynamically" update/extract info in users
contacts...

Other than extract to PST, wipe, import

My guess is this is a heavy duty programming thing at the exch server.

thx
bill

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RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange

[Ed Crowley]

Why not change your engine oil every 100 miles?

Why not pour drano down your drain every day?

Why not take medications for diseases you don't have?

Because you don't need to.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jon Butler
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange


I'm interested in hearing some sound arguments on why offline
maintenance should *not* be performed ... I've heard/read quite a few
people cringing about it, but can never back it up.  I've been doing it
for years without a hitch; I think as long as the proper precautions are
taken and proper trending and planning is performed instead of just
defragging willy-nilly, it's a pretty safe thing to do.  I'm interested
in hearing the other side, though ... anyone? Jon

> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:42 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange
> 
> 
> I'd bet the same people who say not to do exactly what you
> are doing are VERY comfortable with esetuil and isinteg.
> 
> That's precisely why they say *not* to do it.
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Peregrine Systems
> Atlanta, GA
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RE: MEC 2002

[Glaman, Mark]

Yes.. they have been in the past

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: MEC 2002


Are shuttles available from hotels around the conference?  I don't think I
will be able to get a car.
 

Michael Woodruff 
System Administrator 
  inChord Communications Inc. 
A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 
614.543.6405 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Delegation Wizard

[Ed Crowley]

Change their permissions so they can't do that.  Security by obfuscation
is of little value.  What's to stop them from asking the opposite
question and reversing what you've done?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bowles, John
L.
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Delegation Wizard


All,

Is there anyway to remove the Delegation wizard that comes along with
the install of Exchange 2000?  Currently we have admins that think that
it's fun to add themselves as Full Admins on our site.  Can I take care
of this somehow?  And what privileges do you need to add yourself?  I
can't think of it off the top of my head.

TIA,

___
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Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
Celera Genomics
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RE: Outlook 97 Notification

[Ed Crowley]

And the score would be nil-nil for those in the British Isles.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Atkinson,
Daniel
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook 97 Notification


Actually, it's 'extra time', and football.


-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 05 June 2002 05:47
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Outlook 97 Notification

I love soccer. Especially when it's 0-0 in double overtime


- Original Message -
From: "Atkinson, Daniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:33 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 97 Notification


>
> Yes we can claim your spelling is wrong. It's our language and you lot
don't
> talk it right or spell proper.
>
> Come on, you even think we're playing the 'soccer' world cup right 
> now.
>
> dan.
>
>

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RE: Public Folder - drag/drop

[Setmajer, Jerzy]

Do they need to view that folder?
If not - make it visible in the address book but limit default access to
that of contributor only.
This way they can send messages to it but cannot drop into it. 

Or

Have your HR make "accidental" dropping of stuff into public folders a
"termination" offense. 5 folks later - no accidents.  

-Original Message-
From: Manning, Tammie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public Folder - drag/drop


 oddly enough users are 'accidentally' dropping stuff in a specific pf
and then freaking out when they realize that the entire firm has seen
something they shouldn't have.  The management figures if we restrict the
drag/drop, then there will be no accidents.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public Folder - drag/drop


lol. Whatever for?

> -Original Message-
> From: TM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:33 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Public Folder - drag/drop
> 
> 
> Anyone know a way to disable users from dragging & dropping 
> items to a public folder - I want them to be able to post to 
> the folder, but not be
> able to drag/drop items in it.   Thanks!

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RE: part2 - Exch55 exp/imp user mailbox-contact info

[Ed Crowley]

http://www.cdolive.com

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mellott, Bill
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: part2 - Exch55 exp/imp user mailbox-contact info


Can anyone shead some light on how I might Import and export directly to
a users contacts? not via OL... Independent of the client being open.

Would like to be able to "dynamically" update/extract info in users
contacts...

Other than extract to PST, wipe, import

My guess is this is a heavy duty programming thing at the exch server.

thx
bill

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This is a screwed up

[Tener, Richard]

http://www.mischiefmail.com/ This is kinda of messed up website that could
get someone in trouble if they dont know how to identify email spoofing.

Rich

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RE: A mistake was made...

[Soysal, Serdar]

Mmm... Spanking users

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: A mistake was made...


Spank user.


-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: A mistake was made...


Outlook 98.  exchange 5.5 sp4

User sent out an eMAIL to a large distribution list by mistake.  The Recall
Message action feature did not work very well on this. This was very
sensitive eMAIL that went out and needs to be trapped before too many people
read it.  What can I do?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
Alverno Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: A mistake was made...

[Roger Seielstad]

Bzzz. Nope. It appears, as does the Recall message as a separate message.

If the recipient opens the Recall message first, it deletes the original.
Its one of the many reasons I read the original first, before deleting the
recall.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
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Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Pillai, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:11 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: A mistake was made...
> 
> 
> If you recall the message, it should be not be visible to the 
> receiver. It
> may appear as a new mail message( with recall in parenthesis) 
> but when the
> receivers open it, it will be blank. This is how I have seen 
> it function.
> 
> Raj
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:03 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: A mistake was made...
> 
> 
> Outlook 98.  exchange 5.5 sp4
> 
> User sent out an eMAIL to a large distribution list by 
> mistake.  The Recall
> Message action feature did not work very well on this.
> This was very sensitive eMAIL that went out and needs to be 
> trapped before
> too many people read it.  What can I do?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Regards,
> 
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> Systems eMAIL Administrator
> Alverno Information Services
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (317) 532-7800 ext. 6211
> 
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RE: Public Folder - drag/drop

[Roger Seielstad]

Restrict permissions then.

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Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Manning, Tammie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:09 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Public Folder - drag/drop
> 
> 
>  oddly enough users are 'accidentally' dropping stuff in 
> a specific pf
> and then freaking out when they realize that the entire firm has seen
> something they shouldn't have.  The management figures if we 
> restrict the
> drag/drop, then there will be no accidents.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:34 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Public Folder - drag/drop
> 
> 
> lol. Whatever for?
> 
> > -Original Message-
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> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:33 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Public Folder - drag/drop
> > 
> > 
> > Anyone know a way to disable users from dragging & dropping 
> > items to a public folder - I want them to be able to post to 
> > the folder, but not be
> > able to drag/drop items in it.   Thanks!
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[Woodruff, Michael]

Are shuttles available from hotels around the conference?  I don't think I
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RE: A mistake was made...

[Soysal, Serdar]

If it's that sensitive, shut down your exchange servers and run ISSCAN.
Reprimand the user.  Cut off his index finger or something.

Serdar Soysal


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RE: Public Folder - drag/drop

[Chuck Bryant]

We only have plastic spoons, which when involved in toaster accident is
not
nearly so shocking as stainless steel.
 Yeah, I know. It Stinks.

> -Original Message-
> From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:16 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Public Folder - drag/drop
> 
> 
> 
> There may be no drag/drop accidents but those users are still accident
> prone.  Don't leave metal objects near toasters in your lunchroom.
> 
> Serdar Soysal
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Manning, Tammie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:09 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Public Folder - drag/drop
> 
> 
>  oddly enough users are 'accidentally' dropping stuff in 
> a specific pf
> and then freaking out when they realize that the entire firm has seen
> something they shouldn't have.  The management figures if we 
> restrict the
> drag/drop, then there will be no accidents.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:34 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Public Folder - drag/drop
> 
> 
> lol. Whatever for?
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: TM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:33 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Public Folder - drag/drop
> > 
> > 
> > Anyone know a way to disable users from dragging & dropping
> > items to a public folder - I want them to be able to post to 
> > the folder, but not be
> > able to drag/drop items in it.   Thanks!
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RE: Public Folder - drag/drop

[Soysal, Serdar]

There may be no drag/drop accidents but those users are still accident
prone.  Don't leave metal objects near toasters in your lunchroom.

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public Folder - drag/drop


 oddly enough users are 'accidentally' dropping stuff in a specific pf
and then freaking out when they realize that the entire firm has seen
something they shouldn't have.  The management figures if we restrict the
drag/drop, then there will be no accidents.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public Folder - drag/drop


lol. Whatever for?

> -Original Message-
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> To: Exchange Discussions
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> 
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RE: A mistake was made...

[Couch, Nate]

Use ExMerge to pull it out of the stores.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

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> Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2002 14:02
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> Subject:  A mistake was made...
> 
> Outlook 98.  exchange 5.5 sp4
> 
> User sent out an eMAIL to a large distribution list by mistake.  The
> Recall
> Message action feature did not work very well on this.
> This was very sensitive eMAIL that went out and needs to be trapped before
> too many people read it.  What can I do?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
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RE: A mistake was made...

[Pillai, Raj]

If you recall the message, it should be not be visible to the receiver. It
may appear as a new mail message( with recall in parenthesis) but when the
receivers open it, it will be blank. This is how I have seen it function.

Raj

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RE: A mistake was made...

[Davis,Scott]

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q224493
This is the only way I know.

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RE: A mistake was made...

[David Florea]

If on your own network, I guess you could try ExMerge to pull out that message from 
the store.  If it went outside...I believe it's way beyond your control to do 
anything about.


-Original Message-
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Subject: A mistake was made...


Outlook 98.  exchange 5.5 sp4

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RE: A mistake was made...

[Brett Wesoloski]

A distribution list with member just on your network.  Hack into there
e-mail and delete it before they read it.  Distribution list which goes off
site.  Nothing.

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RE: A mistake was made...

[Ward, Stuart]

exmerge

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RE: Public Folder - drag/drop

[Manning, Tammie]

 oddly enough users are 'accidentally' dropping stuff in a specific pf
and then freaking out when they realize that the entire firm has seen
something they shouldn't have.  The management figures if we restrict the
drag/drop, then there will be no accidents.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public Folder - drag/drop


lol. Whatever for?

> -Original Message-
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> 
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RE: A mistake was made...

[Andy David]

Spank user.


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RE: Email Restriction Ex5.5 sp4

[TGreen]

Delivery Restrictions...Reject messages from

You'd have to do this to every recipient, mailbox, or list that you don't
want this user to send to.  Should be able to do this with a Directory
export/import using the Header tool.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email Restriction Ex5.5 sp4


It's the same question just clarified further...

To restate "I want to set up an internal user to only be able to send email
to a single internal distribution list."



-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email Restriction Ex5.5 sp4


first there was a "restricting outbound email from a user"
now there is "an internal user" to "send email to a single internal
distribution list"
Make up your mind and re-state the question please.

Jerzy



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Subject: RE: Email Restriction Ex5.5 sp4


I don't believe that achieves what I am after.  I want to set up an internal
user to only be able to send email to a single internal distribution list.

-Original Message-
From: Setmajer, Jerzy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:14 PM
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Subject: RE: Email Restriction Ex5.5 sp4


create custom recipient and set restrictions on it

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Email Restriction Ex5.5 sp4


Can't seem to get into the archives right now...

How do I go about restricting outbound email from a user to only particular
internal recipients?

I see how to stop the receipt of messages unless from specifics, but not how
to restrict outbound.

Thanks

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A mistake was made...

[Mitchell Mike]

Outlook 98.  exchange 5.5 sp4

User sent out an eMAIL to a large distribution list by mistake.  The Recall
Message action feature did not work very well on this.
This was very sensitive eMAIL that went out and needs to be trapped before
too many people read it.  What can I do?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

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RE: Adding some HTML to all outbound messages?

[Scott Lounder]

Title: RE: Adding some HTML to all outbound messages?





If you must do it I know that the 4.3 Version of MailSweeper for SMTP will allow you to do this.


Although I for one would talk him out of it.  Bandwidth issues alone could probably do it.  Go for the link at the bottom of the message, easier, cheaper, and "bandwidth friendly"

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-Original Message-
From: Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Adding some HTML to all outbound messages?



Exchange 5.5 SP4


Out CEO wants us to add some HTML to the top of all outbound messages. It is
a graphic with a hotlink to our website. 10K total size.


Can I configure this from the server?


Thanks!



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RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange

[Jon Butler]

That's quite a leap, to say that offline maintenance is causing 2 or 3
mailboxes out of 1200 to be unable to respond to specific meeting requests,
even though it's been running for years without a single problem.  Might
want to reconsider your logic on that one -- there's not a shred of evidence
that suggests it's a "direct result."  :)

The main reason we do offline defragging every 6 months is because our store
size is NOT constant, not by a long stretch.  Our organization has specific
needs and usage trends that cause a great deal of unallocated space to pile
up from time to time.  Historically we've been unable to extend the physical
space on the servers due to financial restraints, so we've been forced to
make do with the limited space by compacting the database from time to time.
Thankfully, this paradigm is changing around here so hopefully we can get
some new space and forget about it altogether.  I was really more interested
in hearing the other arguments just to satisfy my own curiosity.  Thanks for
everyone's response!

Jon

> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:46 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange
> 
> 
> Seeing as the problem you're experiencing is most likely the 
> direct result of one of your offline database management 
> practices, you might want to change your thinking on it.
> 
> The only time I've ever seen a good reason to do them is 
> following a large scale change on a server - like migrating 
> 30GB of user data off it.
> 
> Exchange does a phenominal job of self-managing the database. 
> Better than you can do, with few exceptions.
> 
> Take the compacting process - you do it every 6 months 
> (IIRC). Why? I'd bet that the store hits a relatively 
> constant size at the end of that 6 month period, and all 
> things considered, the amount of white space stays relatively 
> consistent. So, in a nutshell, you're doing something that 
> has no upside, yet has the very real possibility of causing damage.
> 
> Roger
> --
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> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Peregrine Systems
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:29 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange
> > 
> > 
> > I'm interested in hearing some sound arguments on why offline
> > maintenance
> > should *not* be performed ... I've heard/read quite a few 
> > people cringing
> > about it, but can never back it up.  I've been doing it for 
> > years without a
> > hitch; I think as long as the proper precautions are taken 
> and proper
> > trending and planning is performed instead of just defragging 
> > willy-nilly,
> > it's a pretty safe thing to do.  I'm interested in hearing 
> > the other side,
> > though ... anyone?
> > Jon
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:42 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I'd bet the same people who say not to do exactly what you
> > > are doing are VERY comfortable with esetuil and isinteg.
> > > 
> > > That's precisely why they say *not* to do it.
> > > 
> > > --
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> > > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > > Peregrine Systems
> > > Atlanta, GA
> > > 
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RE: stupid disclaimers

[Ryan Fennema]

Just lightly toasted please.  I hate it when the burn it. :)




"...unless your lawyers want to send  me a singed and notarized
waiver..."

So that means you want his lawyers to very briefly hold the waiver over
an
open flame?  Would you like that singed in the middle or around the
edges?

;o)

Jim Blunt

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers


It performs a function... It states I'll be breaking the law if I act on
messages you send to the list. In fact I'm apparently breaking the law
now
by clarifying why I'll no longer be acting on messages you send to the
list.

So, sorry you'll no longer be the direct beneficiary of any my witty
discourse unless your lawyers want to send  me a singed and notarized
waiver
from said disclaimer and pay the fees  of my lawyer to have said waiver
reviewed.

Not a big loss I'm sure, but given the litigious society we live in, how
could I do anything less?

> -Original Message-
> From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:31 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
>
>
> Do think this was my design?  Our lawyers think we need this.
>  Like it actually performs some kind of function.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:23 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: stupid disclaimers
>
>
> I think I might just start blocking messages with moronic
> disclaimers before they even get to my system. I feel dumber
> just for having read the disclaimer below.
>
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RE: Public Folder - drag/drop

[Andy David]

Mongo like posting in drag.


-Original Message-
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Subject: Public Folder - drag/drop


Anyone know a way to disable users from dragging & dropping items to a
public folder - I want them to be able to post to the folder, but not be
able to drag/drop items in it.   Thanks!

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Delegation Wizard

[Bowles, John L.]

All,

Is there anyway to remove the Delegation wizard that comes along with
the install of Exchange 2000?  Currently we have admins that think that
it's fun to add themselves as Full Admins on our site.  Can I take care
of this somehow?  And what privileges do you need to add yourself?  I
can't think of it off the top of my head.

TIA,

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SMTP Queues

[Davis,Scott]

In Exchange 5.5, when a SMTP message bound for a remote host gets queued
because the remote host is temporally down, the message would sit in the
IMC outbound queue as a file on disk usually in the exchsrvr\imcdata\out
directory.
This does not seem to be the case for Exchange 2000. Does anyone know
where SMTP queued outbound messages stored?

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RE: stupid disclaimers

[Blunt, James H (Jim)]

"...unless your lawyers want to send  me a singed and notarized waiver..."

So that means you want his lawyers to very briefly hold the waiver over an
open flame?  Would you like that singed in the middle or around the edges?

;o)

Jim Blunt

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers


It performs a function... It states I'll be breaking the law if I act on
messages you send to the list. In fact I'm apparently breaking the law now
by clarifying why I'll no longer be acting on messages you send to the list.

So, sorry you'll no longer be the direct beneficiary of any my witty
discourse unless your lawyers want to send  me a singed and notarized waiver
from said disclaimer and pay the fees  of my lawyer to have said waiver
reviewed. 

Not a big loss I'm sure, but given the litigious society we live in, how
could I do anything less?

> -Original Message-
> From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:31 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
> 
> 
> Do think this was my design?  Our lawyers think we need this. 
>  Like it actually performs some kind of function.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:23 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: stupid disclaimers
> 
> 
> I think I might just start blocking messages with moronic 
> disclaimers before they even get to my system. I feel dumber 
> just for having read the disclaimer below.
> 
> > This message (including any attachments) contains confidential 
> > information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is 
> > protected by law.  If you are not the intended recipient, 
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RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange

[Roger Seielstad]

Seeing as the problem you're experiencing is most likely the direct result
of one of your offline database management practices, you might want to
change your thinking on it.

The only time I've ever seen a good reason to do them is following a large
scale change on a server - like migrating 30GB of user data off it.

Exchange does a phenominal job of self-managing the database. Better than
you can do, with few exceptions.

Take the compacting process - you do it every 6 months (IIRC). Why? I'd bet
that the store hits a relatively constant size at the end of that 6 month
period, and all things considered, the amount of white space stays
relatively consistent. So, in a nutshell, you're doing something that has no
upside, yet has the very real possibility of causing damage.

Roger
--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Jon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:29 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange
> 
> 
> I'm interested in hearing some sound arguments on why offline 
> maintenance
> should *not* be performed ... I've heard/read quite a few 
> people cringing
> about it, but can never back it up.  I've been doing it for 
> years without a
> hitch; I think as long as the proper precautions are taken and proper
> trending and planning is performed instead of just defragging 
> willy-nilly,
> it's a pretty safe thing to do.  I'm interested in hearing 
> the other side,
> though ... anyone?
> Jon
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:42 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange
> > 
> > 
> > I'd bet the same people who say not to do exactly what you 
> > are doing are VERY comfortable with esetuil and isinteg.
> > 
> > That's precisely why they say *not* to do it.
> > 
> > --
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Peregrine Systems
> > Atlanta, GA
> > 
> 
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RE: Public Folder - drag/drop

[Soysal, Serdar]

So you want them to be able to create new items in that folder but not be
able to create new items in it.  I can see the challenge.  

The only thing I can think of is to use a custom post form for that pf,
publish it in that pf and then restrict the pf to accept only that specific
form.  

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Public Folder - drag/drop


Anyone know a way to disable users from dragging & dropping items to a
public folder - I want them to be able to post to the folder, but not be
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RE: Email Restriction Ex5.5 sp4

[Ward, Stuart]

It's the same question just clarified further...

To restate "I want to set up an internal user to only be able to send email
to a single internal distribution list."



-Original Message-
From: Setmajer, Jerzy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email Restriction Ex5.5 sp4


first there was a "restricting outbound email from a user"
now there is "an internal user" to "send email to a single internal
distribution list"
Make up your mind and re-state the question please.

Jerzy



-Original Message-
From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email Restriction Ex5.5 sp4


I don't believe that achieves what I am after.  I want to set up an internal
user to only be able to send email to a single internal distribution list.

-Original Message-
From: Setmajer, Jerzy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email Restriction Ex5.5 sp4


create custom recipient and set restrictions on it

-Original Message-
From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Email Restriction Ex5.5 sp4


Can't seem to get into the archives right now...

How do I go about restricting outbound email from a user to only particular
internal recipients?

I see how to stop the receipt of messages unless from specifics, but not how
to restrict outbound.

Thanks

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RE: Public Folder - drag/drop

[Chris Scharff]

lol. Whatever for?

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:33 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Public Folder - drag/drop
> 
> 
> Anyone know a way to disable users from dragging & dropping 
> items to a public folder - I want them to be able to post to 
> the folder, but not be
> able to drag/drop items in it.   Thanks!

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RE: stupid disclaimers

[Chuck Bryant]

I used Exclaimer and configured it to exclude mail to this list from
getting
our disclaimer.

> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:23 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: stupid disclaimers
> 
> 
> I think I might just start blocking messages with moronic 
> disclaimers before
> they even get to my system. I feel dumber just for having read the
> disclaimer below.
> 
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> > confidential information intended for a specific individual 
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Public Folder - drag/drop

[TM]

Anyone know a way to disable users from dragging & dropping items to a
public folder - I want them to be able to post to the folder, but not be
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RE: Email Restriction Ex5.5 sp4

[Setmajer, Jerzy]

first there was a "restricting outbound email from a user"
now there is "an internal user" to "send email to a single internal
distribution list"
Make up your mind and re-state the question please.

Jerzy



-Original Message-
From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email Restriction Ex5.5 sp4


I don't believe that achieves what I am after.  I want to set up an internal
user to only be able to send email to a single internal distribution list.

-Original Message-
From: Setmajer, Jerzy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email Restriction Ex5.5 sp4


create custom recipient and set restrictions on it

-Original Message-
From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Email Restriction Ex5.5 sp4


Can't seem to get into the archives right now...

How do I go about restricting outbound email from a user to only particular
internal recipients?

I see how to stop the receipt of messages unless from specifics, but not how
to restrict outbound.

Thanks

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RE: Email Restriction Ex5.5 sp4

[Ward, Stuart]

I don't believe that achieves what I am after.  I want to set up an internal
user to only be able to send email to a single internal distribution list.

-Original Message-
From: Setmajer, Jerzy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email Restriction Ex5.5 sp4


create custom recipient and set restrictions on it

-Original Message-
From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Email Restriction Ex5.5 sp4


Can't seem to get into the archives right now...

How do I go about restricting outbound email from a user to only particular
internal recipients?

I see how to stop the receipt of messages unless from specifics, but not how
to restrict outbound.

Thanks

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RE: Email Restriction Ex5.5 sp4

[Setmajer, Jerzy]

create custom recipient and set restrictions on it

-Original Message-
From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Email Restriction Ex5.5 sp4


Can't seem to get into the archives right now...

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I see how to stop the receipt of messages unless from specifics, but not how
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Thanks

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RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange

[Soysal, Serdar]

The reasons why I don't do it are:

1. It's unnecessary.
2. I have a life.
3. Unnecessary downtime is frowned upon in a 24x7 shop.
4. I don't need to justify my existence by doing useless administrative
work.

It's like disassembling your car's axles and clean your shocks every weekend
as "scheduled maintenance".  As long as you are careful, it's pretty safe to
do so.  But, why bother?  

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Jon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange


I'm interested in hearing some sound arguments on why offline maintenance
should *not* be performed ... I've heard/read quite a few people cringing
about it, but can never back it up.  I've been doing it for years without a
hitch; I think as long as the proper precautions are taken and proper
trending and planning is performed instead of just defragging willy-nilly,
it's a pretty safe thing to do.  I'm interested in hearing the other side,
though ... anyone? Jon

> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:42 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange
> 
> 
> I'd bet the same people who say not to do exactly what you
> are doing are VERY comfortable with esetuil and isinteg.
> 
> That's precisely why they say *not* to do it.
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Peregrine Systems
> Atlanta, GA
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Email Restriction Ex5.5 sp4

[Ward, Stuart]

Can't seem to get into the archives right now...

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RE: stupid disclaimers

[Ryan Fennema]

That was a good one!!!  I laughed for 5 minutes after reading that
one!!! :)  I needed that today, thanks.

-Ryan



Does printing the message out and pissing on the paper constitute
"action"?

> -Original Message-
> From: East, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:37 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
>
>
> I'm taking action on your message. I'm taking action on it
> right now. Nyah
> nyah nyah nyah nyah.
>
> Tell your lawyers to get their $49.95 back from "J.D.'s 'R' Us."
>
> --
> be - MOS
>
>
>
> Noone ever built a statue to a critic.
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:31 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
> >
> >
> > Do think this was my design?  Our lawyers think we need
> this.  Like it
> > actually performs some kind of function.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:23 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: stupid disclaimers
> >
> >
> > I think I might just start blocking messages with moronic
> > disclaimers before
> > they even get to my system. I feel dumber just for having read the
> > disclaimer below.
> >
> > > This message (including any attachments) contains
> > > confidential information intended for a specific individual
> > > and purpose, and is protected by law.  If you are not the
> > > intended recipient, you should delete this message.  Any
> > > disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the
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RE: slightly OT: ExchangeServer stops every 10 minutes (Active Direct ory issue?)

[Elmer Stöwer]

> Enterprise Domain Controllers (built-in group) should have 
Is this something I schould worry about? The group does not exist in our domain. We do 
have the domain controller group, but not Enterprise Domain Controller...

regards

Elmer


> -Original Message-
> From: Myles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:29 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: slightly OT: ExchangeServer stops every 10 
> minutes (Active
> Direct ory issue?)
> 
> 
> Ouch.. what a mess..
> 
> Check through your event logs... the symptoms you are 
> describing suggest an underlying problem, e.g. DNS... the 
> enviable situation you're in, I suspect, is a byproduct of 
> that (machine account/kerberos/security problems etc), 
> together with some new ones you may have introduced trying to 
> fix the problem.
> 
> This little chestnut was interesting..
> 
>   Error NT-AUTORITÄT\DOMÄNENCONTROLLER DER ORGANISATION doesn't have 
> Replicating Directory Changes
> Replication Syncronization
> Manage Replication Topology
> 
> Have you been changed any AD/OU security or turned off AD 
> inheritance within your domain tree  Click on Advanced in 
> ADUC, go to the root of your domain and click on the Security 
> tab.. what do you see ? 
> 
> Enterprise Domain Controllers (built-in group) should have 
> Manage Replication Topology, Replicating directory changes 
> and Replication Synchronization Allow permissions. Exchange 
> Enterprise Servers (built-in) should have Manage Replication 
> Topology. 
> 
> How are you applying group policy within your organisation ? 
> If you're using some of the Microsoft GPO Templates (e.g. 
> SECUREDC.INF)and applying those on your Exchange Server, you 
> may experience *ahem* some loss of functionality, killing 
> Exchange in the process.
> 
> For problems with machine accounts, have a look at Technet 
> Q260575.. this deals with machine account 'Access Denied' 
> errors. Also, if you've moved the machine accounts for your 
> DC's out of the built-in domain controllers OU and not 
> re-linked in the default domain controllers group policy back 
> to the new OU, you'll get lots of SceCli messages in the 
> event log (although you're event id does not suggest this).
> 
> Leave SYSVOL alone... the SYSVOL\SYSVOL path/junction is 
> normal... don't touch! Use GPOTOOL on the Reskit and NTFRSUTL 
> to troubleshoot general GPO/SYSVOL/FRS issues.
> 
> In short, don't go making big changes to things which are 
> unlikely to be the cause of the problem. Make sure DNS is 
> working..  and check out that security problem mentioned earlier.
> 
> Seeing as it's rather hard to see what chain of events have 
> occurred to get you into this situation, if you're still in 
> the mire, get out your wallet and give Micrsoft PSS a call.
> 
> Regards
> Mylo
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elmer Stöwer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 04 June 2002 20:14
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: slightly OT: ExchangeServer stops every 10 
> minutes (Active
> Direct ory issue?)
> 
> 
> Single local domain, single site two servers (einstein DC 
> fileserver, platon DC exchangeserver).
> 
> no event log failures, but the seems to stand for almost a 
> minute at the same time as SceCli applies security policy on 
> the exchange server (event 1704).
> 
> netdiag is not very helpful.
> DCdiag was a good hint. I put the output of both servers 
> here, cause I don't know what to do anymore (maybe 12h work 
> is to much for one day) 
> 
> output of DCdiag on einstein:
> --
> Doing primary tests
>
>Testing server: Alt-Moabit\EINSTEIN
>   Starting test: Replications
>  [Replications Check,EINSTEIN] A recent replication 
> attempt failed:
> From PLATON to EINSTEIN
> Naming Context: DC=cyberconsult,DC=lan
> The replication generated an error (8453):
> Der Replikationszugriff wurde verweigert.
> The failure occurred at 2002-06-04 19:48.21.
> The last success occurred at 2002-05-23 17:02.11.
> 3115 failures have occurred since the last success.
> The machine account for the destination EINSTEIN.
> is not configured properly.
> Check the userAccountControl field.
> Kerberos Error.
> The machine account is not present, or does not 
> match on the.
> destination, source or KDC servers.
> Verify domain partition of KDC is in sync with 
> rest of enterprise.
> The tool repadmin/syncall can be used for this purpose.
>  . EINSTEIN passed test Replications
>   Starting test: NCSecDesc
> -   
> 
> output of DCdiag on platon:
> Doing primary tests
>
>Testing server: Alt-Moabit\PLATON
>   Starting test: Replications
>  . PLATON passed t

RE: stupid disclaimers

[Woodruff, Michael]

Alright, alright.  There.  Fortunately Mailsweeper allows you to bypass by
adding personalmail in the body somewhere.  Are you happy?

Michael Woodruff 
System Administrator 
inChord Communications Inc. 
A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 
614.543.6405 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
personalmail


-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers


if it's a litmus test

-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers


Does printing the message out and pissing on the paper constitute "action"?

> -Original Message-
> From: East, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:37 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
> 
> 
> I'm taking action on your message. I'm taking action on it
> right now. Nyah
> nyah nyah nyah nyah.
> 
> Tell your lawyers to get their $49.95 back from "J.D.'s 'R' Us."
> 
> --
> be - MOS
> 
> 
> 
> Noone ever built a statue to a critic.
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:31 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
> > 
> > 
> > Do think this was my design?  Our lawyers think we need
> this.  Like it
> > actually performs some kind of function.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:23 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: stupid disclaimers
> > 
> > 
> > I think I might just start blocking messages with moronic
> > disclaimers before
> > they even get to my system. I feel dumber just for having read the
> > disclaimer below.
> > 
> > > This message (including any attachments) contains confidential 
> > > information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is 
> > > protected by law.  If you are not the intended recipient, you 
> > > should delete this message.  Any disclosure, copying, or 
> > > distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on 
> > > it, is strictly prohibited.
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RE: stupid disclaimers

[Chris Scharff]

It performs a function... It states I'll be breaking the law if I act on
messages you send to the list. In fact I'm apparently breaking the law now
by clarifying why I'll no longer be acting on messages you send to the list.

So, sorry you'll no longer be the direct beneficiary of any my witty
discourse unless your lawyers want to send  me a singed and notarized waiver
from said disclaimer and pay the fees  of my lawyer to have said waiver
reviewed. 

Not a big loss I'm sure, but given the litigious society we live in, how
could I do anything less?

> -Original Message-
> From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:31 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
> 
> 
> Do think this was my design?  Our lawyers think we need this. 
>  Like it actually performs some kind of function.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:23 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: stupid disclaimers
> 
> 
> I think I might just start blocking messages with moronic 
> disclaimers before they even get to my system. I feel dumber 
> just for having read the disclaimer below.
> 
> > This message (including any attachments) contains confidential 
> > information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is 
> > protected by law.  If you are not the intended recipient, 
> you should 
> > delete this message.  Any disclosure, copying, or 
> distribution of this 
> > message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly 
> > prohibited.

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RE: stupid disclaimers

[Mellott, Bill]

if it's a litmus test

-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers


Does printing the message out and pissing on the paper constitute "action"?

> -Original Message-
> From: East, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:37 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
> 
> 
> I'm taking action on your message. I'm taking action on it 
> right now. Nyah
> nyah nyah nyah nyah.
> 
> Tell your lawyers to get their $49.95 back from "J.D.'s 'R' Us."
> 
> -- 
> be - MOS
> 
> 
> 
> Noone ever built a statue to a critic.
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:31 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
> > 
> > 
> > Do think this was my design?  Our lawyers think we need 
> this.  Like it
> > actually performs some kind of function.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:23 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: stupid disclaimers
> > 
> > 
> > I think I might just start blocking messages with moronic 
> > disclaimers before
> > they even get to my system. I feel dumber just for having read the
> > disclaimer below.
> > 
> > > This message (including any attachments) contains
> > > confidential information intended for a specific individual 
> > > and purpose, and is protected by law.  If you are not the 
> > > intended recipient, you should delete this message.  Any 
> > > disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the 
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RE: stupid disclaimers

[Setmajer, Jerzy]

The printing does

-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers


Does printing the message out and pissing on the paper constitute "action"?

> -Original Message-
> From: East, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:37 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
> 
> 
> I'm taking action on your message. I'm taking action on it 
> right now. Nyah
> nyah nyah nyah nyah.
> 
> Tell your lawyers to get their $49.95 back from "J.D.'s 'R' Us."
> 
> -- 
> be - MOS
> 
> 
> 
> Noone ever built a statue to a critic.
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:31 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
> > 
> > 
> > Do think this was my design?  Our lawyers think we need 
> this.  Like it
> > actually performs some kind of function.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:23 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: stupid disclaimers
> > 
> > 
> > I think I might just start blocking messages with moronic 
> > disclaimers before
> > they even get to my system. I feel dumber just for having read the
> > disclaimer below.
> > 
> > > This message (including any attachments) contains
> > > confidential information intended for a specific individual 
> > > and purpose, and is protected by law.  If you are not the 
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> > > disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the 
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RE: stupid disclaimers

[Erik Sojka]

Does printing the message out and pissing on the paper constitute "action"?

> -Original Message-
> From: East, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:37 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
> 
> 
> I'm taking action on your message. I'm taking action on it 
> right now. Nyah
> nyah nyah nyah nyah.
> 
> Tell your lawyers to get their $49.95 back from "J.D.'s 'R' Us."
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> -- 
> be - MOS
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> Noone ever built a statue to a critic.
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> > 
> > Do think this was my design?  Our lawyers think we need 
> this.  Like it
> > actually performs some kind of function.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:23 PM
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> > Subject: stupid disclaimers
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> > I think I might just start blocking messages with moronic 
> > disclaimers before
> > they even get to my system. I feel dumber just for having read the
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Re: Outlook appointments on Exchange

[missy koslosky]

The real question, to my mind, is "why bother".  There is no need to run
these utilities, and hasn't been since the introduction of online
maintenance, which gathers all of the white space in the database and
essentially moves that white space into the back of the database where
it can be overwritten.

Missy
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From: "Jon Butler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:29 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange


I'm interested in hearing some sound arguments on why offline
maintenance
should *not* be performed ... I've heard/read quite a few people
cringing
about it, but can never back it up.  I've been doing it for years
without a
hitch; I think as long as the proper precautions are taken and proper
trending and planning is performed instead of just defragging
willy-nilly,
it's a pretty safe thing to do.  I'm interested in hearing the other
side,
though ... anyone?
Jon

> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:42 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange
>
>
> I'd bet the same people who say not to do exactly what you
> are doing are VERY comfortable with esetuil and isinteg.
>
> That's precisely why they say *not* to do it.
>
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Peregrine Systems
> Atlanta, GA
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RE: Outlook 97 Notification

[Setmajer, Jerzy]

soccer.hmmm. is that the game where after 30 minutes only the
Goalies and Commentators have any energy left?
No wonder fans get so frustrated.
Jerzy
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-Original Message-
From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook 97 Notification


Actually, it's 'extra time', and football.


-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 05 June 2002 05:47
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Outlook 97 Notification

I love soccer. Especially when it's 0-0 in double overtime


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Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:33 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 97 Notification


>
> Yes we can claim your spelling is wrong. It's our language and you lot
don't
> talk it right or spell proper.
>
> Come on, you even think we're playing the 'soccer' world cup right now.
>
> dan.
>
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RE: stupid disclaimers

[East, Bill]

I'm taking action on your message. I'm taking action on it right now. Nyah
nyah nyah nyah nyah.

Tell your lawyers to get their $49.95 back from "J.D.'s 'R' Us."

-- 
be - MOS



Noone ever built a statue to a critic.


> -Original Message-
> From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:31 PM
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> 
> Do think this was my design?  Our lawyers think we need this.  Like it
> actually performs some kind of function.
> 
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> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:23 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: stupid disclaimers
> 
> 
> I think I might just start blocking messages with moronic 
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