Sending email from different companies.
We have set up another company within our own company. Whilst the majority of the time my users will still be sending email from the original (default company) I have two Users who occasionally will need to send email as if it came from the new company with no mention of the original default parent company. We are using Exchange 5.5 SP4 with Outlook 2000 and Outlook XP clients. I have setup Exchange to accept email for the new company I just need to know the best way for them to be set up so as they can quickly and easily send email as if it came from the new company. What is the best way to achieve this scenario. Many thanks for any help offered. Kevan Dickinson Network Engineer Oxford Natural Products Plc The Stable Block Cornbury Park Charlbury Oxfordshire OX7 3EH Tel: +44 1608 813300 Dir: +44 1608 81 Fax: +44 1608 813301 www.oxfordnaturalproducts.com Company No: 3554809 This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material immediately. Whilst this email has been swept for viruses, you should carry out your own virus check before opening any attachment. Oxford Natural Products plc accepts no liability for any loss or damage which may be caused by software viruses or interception or interruption of this email. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sending email from different companies.
We have set up another company within our own company. Whilst the majority of the time my users will still be sending email from the original (default company) I have two Users who occasionally will need to send email as if it came from the new company with no mention of the original default parent company. We are using Exchange 5.5 SP4 with Outlook 2000 and Outlook XP clients. I have setup Exchange to accept email for the new company I just need to know the best way for them to be set up so as they can quickly and easily send email as if it came from the new company. What is the best way to achieve this scenario. Many thanks for any help offered. Kevan Dickinson Network Engineer Oxford Natural Products Plc The Stable Block Cornbury Park Charlbury Oxfordshire OX7 3EH Tel: +44 1608 813300 Dir: +44 1608 81 Fax: +44 1608 813301 www.oxfordnaturalproducts.com Company No: 3554809 This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material immediately. Whilst this email has been swept for viruses, you should carry out your own virus check before opening any attachment. Oxford Natural Products plc accepts no liability for any loss or damage which may be caused by software viruses or interception or interruption of this email. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Client Outlook Size and Server Mailbox size is not the same.
Sounds like they have dropped a message into the root folder (Outlook Today - [Mailbox - name]). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 11:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Client Outlook Size and Server Mailbox size is not the same. Hi Everyone! Weird things do happens but i am not sure whether this is a bug. Scenario: 2 users located on different Exchange Server. Problem is although their Inbox, Sent Item, Calendar, etc etc are empty (Check the size by going to Outlook Today -- Right Click -- Properties -- Folder Size Tab ) The size of the mailbox is still showing 29MB. Archive have been done to clear the emails/items in the mailbox but still showing the same. Any pointers/known bug will be appreciated. THanks!!! Rgds, K Lee - This email was sent using FREE Catholic Online Webmail. Please tell your family, friends and children about COL Webmail! http://webmail.catholic.org/ _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT-TechEd
Thanks Ed. MEC2002 was my first MS event and I was quite surprised. I'm looking forward to TechEd 2003. Estimate $1,400 for registration; advance registration discounts are sometimes available. Figure $200 a day more or less for the nicer hotels (which includes tax), cheaper ones are available. Don't bother with a car; instead spend the money on a conference hotel and ride the buses. Fly into Love Field and you even take a city bus to the downtown area, which I did the last time I went to MEC there. TechEd will provide return transportation to the airport. You shouldn't have to spend much on food; most is provided by the conference or vendors. Same goes for alcohol. Cheers! Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Technical Consultant hp Services There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scott Force Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 7:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT-TechEd Anyone have a ballpark price for Tech-Ed 2003? I'm a Tech-Ed virgin and it's budget time. Thanks in advance, Scott. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT-TechEd
Bring your own chair. I think next time they'll be saving even more money by leaving the lights off, too, so I'm bringing a miner's helmet. -Original Message- From: Scott Force [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Monday, November 25, 2002 7:22 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: OT-TechEd Subject: RE: OT-TechEd Thanks Ed. MEC2002 was my first MS event and I was quite surprised. I'm looking forward to TechEd 2003. Estimate $1,400 for registration; advance registration discounts are sometimes available. Figure $200 a day more or less for the nicer hotels (which includes tax), cheaper ones are available. Don't bother with a car; instead spend the money on a conference hotel and ride the buses. Fly into Love Field and you even take a city bus to the downtown area, which I did the last time I went to MEC there. TechEd will provide return transportation to the airport. You shouldn't have to spend much on food; most is provided by the conference or vendors. Same goes for alcohol. Cheers! Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Technical Consultant hp Services There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scott Force Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 7:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT-TechEd Anyone have a ballpark price for Tech-Ed 2003? I'm a Tech-Ed virgin and it's budget time. Thanks in advance, Scott. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT-TechEd
And Pepsi. I suspect you could you make a fortune selling it outside the convention center. - Original Message - From: Tom Meunier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 8:28 AM Subject: RE: OT-TechEd Bring your own chair. I think next time they'll be saving even more money by leaving the lights off, too, so I'm bringing a miner's helmet. -Original Message- From: Scott Force [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Monday, November 25, 2002 7:22 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: OT-TechEd Subject: RE: OT-TechEd Thanks Ed. MEC2002 was my first MS event and I was quite surprised. I'm looking forward to TechEd 2003. Estimate $1,400 for registration; advance registration discounts are sometimes available. Figure $200 a day more or less for the nicer hotels (which includes tax), cheaper ones are available. Don't bother with a car; instead spend the money on a conference hotel and ride the buses. Fly into Love Field and you even take a city bus to the downtown area, which I did the last time I went to MEC there. TechEd will provide return transportation to the airport. You shouldn't have to spend much on food; most is provided by the conference or vendors. Same goes for alcohol. Cheers! Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Technical Consultant hp Services There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scott Force Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 7:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT-TechEd Anyone have a ballpark price for Tech-Ed 2003? I'm a Tech-Ed virgin and it's budget time. Thanks in advance, Scott. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange Calendar Object and Mailbox Resource
What I have done here but I have heard flak from this group is set up a delegate PC. We have about 7 conference rooms. They all have a user account called Room Scheduler as their delegate. Room scheduler is then setup to accept and decline based on the rooms schedule. So you invite the room as a person and the Room Scheduler accepts or declines it. There is a new product coming out that someone had suggested I look at called ERM. Here is the link it might help. I like the way that I have it setup now though because the room scheduler mailbox creates a paper trail that I can use to resolve conflicts if people think they have booked a room and haven't. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Jason Coleman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 7:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions I have been posed with an interesting problem. Previous to my inheritance of the Exchange 5.5 server, the way appointments were set was calendar objects for each of our conference rooms were created under the public folder list and users contacted the receptionist to reserve a room. Now, what I set up was a mailbox whom could be invited as a resource. The problem, however, is that there are two locations that the data can be written to and rather than drop one and use the other, they would like users to be able to do both. Anyone have any idea if this can be done? Windows NT 4.0 SP6a Exchange Server 5.5 SP4 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Outlook unable to update free/busy information
I think I have fixed this problem. After poking around, I found that the PF Store on this server, under instances, had two Sched+ system folders. The second one turned out to be from another administrative group AND was an orphan (under properties/replication it did not have any replicas) The other AG has servers that only do SMTP relaying from our Imail servers. So I had removed all their public stores a few months before. When I was removing those PF stores, it told me that I would still have to have to use PFs from another server and I had to pick the store on this server. I think that actually created an orphan Sched+ folder. I put the PF stores back on the SMTP server and homed the Sched+ folder back there. This seems to have helped. -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 9:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Outlook unable to update free/busy information This is Exchange 2000 SP3. My users are starting to get the error message Outlook can't update free/busy information after they make new appointments and exit out of Outlook. I have checked all the KB articles and our situation does not seem to apply. Our LegacyExchangeDNs do not have all capital letters, or mixes lower case and capital. This Exchange org never had an Exchange 5.5 servers. No servers have been removed from the Org. The Free/Busy system folder exists and correct permissions are in place. I have tried running outlook.exe /cleanfreebusy but it gave me an error saying that it could not clean free/busy. Normal users get this error message but if I log onto the mailbox that belongs to the service account, I don't get the error. Common sense kind of tells me that this is some kind of a permission issue. Any ideas? Thanks! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Yes I am. They are offline users. They are remote users that are paid by the hour. We are trying to find a way to make it automated so they only have to hook their laptops up to the phone line and go to bed. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 12:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions You must mean remote users working in offline mode, right? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 5:57 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP So that users don't have to initiate the send/receive. Currently it takes user intervention to perform the function and we are looking for a way to automate it. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 4:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions What is the design goal? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 3:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Outlook XP? Tools:Settings:Mail Setup:Send/Receive. Several options there for you. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 8:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Yes I am. They are offline users. They are remote users that are paid by the hour. We are trying to find a way to make it automated so they only have to hook their laptops up to the phone line and go to bed. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 12:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions You must mean remote users working in offline mode, right? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 5:57 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP So that users don't have to initiate the send/receive. Currently it takes user intervention to perform the function and we are looking for a way to automate it. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 4:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions What is the design goal? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 3:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sending email from different companies.
It depends on what you want to achieve... If these people are to *always* send from company B (new company)then just add the new (smtp) mail address in their mailbox properties and set that as primary/ reply address. Alternatively, if they only need to send occassionally, then set up another mailbox for these users, set the mail address as above, assign it to the relevant users and create a new profile for outlook on their pc's. They can then chose to go into either account (by setting up the 'prompt for user' in outlook). You could also go further and set delegate permissions etc. Rob -Original Message- From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 November 2002 11:58 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sending email from different companies. We have set up another company within our own company. Whilst the majority of the time my users will still be sending email from the original (default company) I have two Users who occasionally will need to send email as if it came from the new company with no mention of the original default parent company. We are using Exchange 5.5 SP4 with Outlook 2000 and Outlook XP clients. I have setup Exchange to accept email for the new company I just need to know the best way for them to be set up so as they can quickly and easily send email as if it came from the new company. What is the best way to achieve this scenario. Many thanks for any help offered. Kevan Dickinson Network Engineer Oxford Natural Products Plc The Stable Block Cornbury Park Charlbury Oxfordshire OX7 3EH Tel: +44 1608 813300 Dir: +44 1608 81 Fax: +44 1608 813301 www.oxfordnaturalproducts.com Company No: 3554809 This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material immediately. Whilst this email has been swept for viruses, you should carry out your own virus check before opening any attachment. Oxford Natural Products plc accepts no liability for any loss or damage which may be caused by software viruses or interception or interruption of this email. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com) This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. It should not be deemed to constitute a binding contract between TKC Group and the recipient(s) unless a purchase order number is quoted. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of TKC Group Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient(s), please do not copy or disclose its contents. Please return it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete the email. intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Do they have an application which reads the e-mail to them in their sleep? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 8:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Yes I am. They are offline users. They are remote users that are paid by the hour. We are trying to find a way to make it automated so they only have to hook their laptops up to the phone line and go to bed. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 12:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions You must mean remote users working in offline mode, right? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 5:57 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP So that users don't have to initiate the send/receive. Currently it takes user intervention to perform the function and we are looking for a way to automate it. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 4:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions What is the design goal? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 3:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
There are options there but not to automatically open Outlook. We need something that I could setup through task scheduler that will open Outlook and perform a send/receive and then close Outlook. Like I said in a previous post. These are hourly employees that we don't want to pay while they are just sitting there waiting for their email to download. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Outlook XP? Tools:Settings:Mail Setup:Send/Receive. Several options there for you. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 8:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Yes I am. They are offline users. They are remote users that are paid by the hour. We are trying to find a way to make it automated so they only have to hook their laptops up to the phone line and go to bed. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 12:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions You must mean remote users working in offline mode, right? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 5:57 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP So that users don't have to initiate the send/receive. Currently it takes user intervention to perform the function and we are looking for a way to automate it. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 4:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions What is the design goal? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 3:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Ha ha!!! Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Do they have an application which reads the e-mail to them in their sleep? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 8:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Yes I am. They are offline users. They are remote users that are paid by the hour. We are trying to find a way to make it automated so they only have to hook their laptops up to the phone line and go to bed. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 12:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions You must mean remote users working in offline mode, right? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 5:57 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP So that users don't have to initiate the send/receive. Currently it takes user intervention to perform the function and we are looking for a way to automate it. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 4:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions What is the design goal? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 3:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sending email from different companies.
I would do this a little differently. First, set up two mailboxes for the user with the second having a primary SMTP address of the other company. Set them to be associated with the same NT account. Set the second mailbox to have an alternate recipient of the first mailbox. Give the second mailbox a display name of something like Smith, John (other company). Now, the user will use the first mailbox and never go into the second mailbox but since the second mailbox has an alternate recipient pointing to the first mailbox, they will not lose messages. Now, activate the From field in the user's Outlook. This will display a From field to display when they are sending messages. If they want to send as their company, they do not mess with the from field and simply send the email per normal. However, if they want to send as if they are from the other company, they just fill in mailbox number two in the From field. This saves the hassles of having two profiles and jumping back and forth between mailboxes. All mail ends up in a single location and they can send as either person from the same mailbox while in the same Outlook session. If anyone has improvements to this process, please let me know, but this is the slickest way I have found to be able to pull this off. It depends on what you want to achieve... If these people are to *always* send from company B (new company)then just add the new (smtp) mail address in their mailbox properties and set that as primary/ reply address. Alternatively, if they only need to send occassionally, then set up another mailbox for these users, set the mail address as above, assign it to the relevant users and create a new profile for outlook on their pc's. They can then chose to go into either account (by setting up the 'prompt for user' in outlook). You could also go further and set delegate permissions etc. Rob -Original Message- From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 November 2002 11:58 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sending email from different companies. We have set up another company within our own company. Whilst the majority of the time my users will still be sending email from the original (default company) I have two Users who occasionally will need to send email as if it came from the new company with no mention of the original default parent company. We are using Exchange 5.5 SP4 with Outlook 2000 and Outlook XP clients. I have setup Exchange to accept email for the new company I just need to know the best way for them to be set up so as they can quickly and easily send email as if it came from the new company. What is the best way to achieve this scenario. Many thanks for any help offered. Kevan Dickinson Network Engineer Oxford Natural Products Plc The Stable Block Cornbury Park Charlbury Oxfordshire OX7 3EH Tel: +44 1608 813300 Dir: +44 1608 81 Fax: +44 1608 813301 www.oxfordnaturalproducts.com Company No: 3554809 This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and=20 may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the=20 individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received=20 this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material=20 immediately. Whilst this email has been swept for viruses, you=20 should carry out your own virus check before opening any=20 attachment. Oxford Natural Products plc accepts no liability for any loss or damage which may be caused by software viruses or interception=20 or interruption of this email. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com) This=20email=20is=20confidential=20and=20intended=20solely=20for=20the=20= use=20of=20the=20individual=28s=29=20to=20whom=20it=20is=20addressed=2E=20= =20It=20should=20not=20be=20deemed=20to=20constitute=20a=20binding=20cont= ract=20between=20TKC=20Group=20and=20the=20recipient=28s=29=20unless=20a=20= purchase=20order=20number=20is=20quoted=2E=20=20Any=20views=20or=20opinio= ns=20presented=20are=20solely=20those=20of=20the=20author=20and=20do=20no= t=20necessarily=20represent=20those=20of=20TKC=20Group=20Ltd=2E=20=20If=20= you=20are=20not=20the=20intended=20recipient=28s=29=2C=20please=20do=20no=
Re: Sending email from different companies.
Wonder how you would do this in Exchange 2000. I don't think it would be as straight forward as in 5.5. - Original Message - From: Greg Deckler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:19 AM Subject: RE: Sending email from different companies. I would do this a little differently. First, set up two mailboxes for the user with the second having a primary SMTP address of the other company. Set them to be associated with the same NT account. Set the second mailbox to have an alternate recipient of the first mailbox. Give the second mailbox a display name of something like Smith, John (other company). Now, the user will use the first mailbox and never go into the second mailbox but since the second mailbox has an alternate recipient pointing to the first mailbox, they will not lose messages. Now, activate the From field in the user's Outlook. This will display a From field to display when they are sending messages. If they want to send as their company, they do not mess with the from field and simply send the email per normal. However, if they want to send as if they are from the other company, they just fill in mailbox number two in the From field. This saves the hassles of having two profiles and jumping back and forth between mailboxes. All mail ends up in a single location and they can send as either person from the same mailbox while in the same Outlook session. If anyone has improvements to this process, please let me know, but this is the slickest way I have found to be able to pull this off. It depends on what you want to achieve... If these people are to *always* send from company B (new company)then just add the new (smtp) mail address in their mailbox properties and set that as primary/ reply address. Alternatively, if they only need to send occassionally, then set up another mailbox for these users, set the mail address as above, assign it to the relevant users and create a new profile for outlook on their pc's. They can then chose to go into either account (by setting up the 'prompt for user' in outlook). You could also go further and set delegate permissions etc. Rob -Original Message- From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 November 2002 11:58 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sending email from different companies. We have set up another company within our own company. Whilst the majority of the time my users will still be sending email from the original (default company) I have two Users who occasionally will need to send email as if it came from the new company with no mention of the original default parent company. We are using Exchange 5.5 SP4 with Outlook 2000 and Outlook XP clients. I have setup Exchange to accept email for the new company I just need to know the best way for them to be set up so as they can quickly and easily send email as if it came from the new company. What is the best way to achieve this scenario. Many thanks for any help offered. Kevan Dickinson Network Engineer Oxford Natural Products Plc The Stable Block Cornbury Park Charlbury Oxfordshire OX7 3EH Tel: +44 1608 813300 Dir: +44 1608 81 Fax: +44 1608 813301 www.oxfordnaturalproducts.com Company No: 3554809 This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and=20 may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the=20 individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received=20 this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material=20 immediately. Whilst this email has been swept for viruses, you=20 should carry out your own virus check before opening any=20 attachment. Oxford Natural Products plc accepts no liability for any loss or damage which may be caused by software viruses or interception=20 or interruption of this email. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com) This=20email=20is=20confidential=20and=20intended=20solely=20for=20the=20= use=20of=20the=20individual=28s=29=20to=20whom=20it=20is=20addressed=2E=20= =20It=20should=20not=20be=20deemed=20to=20constitute=20a=20binding=20cont=
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
How do you know they aren't charging time for that anyway? They're on the honor system by definition. Have them use an OST. Automatic synch and they're not just staring at a screen waiting. Note there is the option for an automatic send/receive every X minutes. This will dial the number automagically and do it's thing without them sitting there. All they have to do is start Outlook and walk away. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP There are options there but not to automatically open Outlook. We need something that I could setup through task scheduler that will open Outlook and perform a send/receive and then close Outlook. Like I said in a previous post. These are hourly employees that we don't want to pay while they are just sitting there waiting for their email to download. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Outlook XP? Tools:Settings:Mail Setup:Send/Receive. Several options there for you. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 8:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Yes I am. They are offline users. They are remote users that are paid by the hour. We are trying to find a way to make it automated so they only have to hook their laptops up to the phone line and go to bed. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 12:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions You must mean remote users working in offline mode, right? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 5:57 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP So that users don't have to initiate the send/receive. Currently it takes user intervention to perform the function and we are looking for a way to automate it. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 4:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions What is the design goal? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 3:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
RE: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group
Thanks for the clarification Ed. My apologies for short-changing the process. Move server between Administrative Groups = ... 1. Move users off of server and onto other servers or onto temporary server 2. Rehome Schedule+ Free/Busy Information public folder 3. Remove server 4. Remove administrative group 5. Reinstall server into other administrative group 6. Move users back to server If you are using existing servers to move the users to temporarily, you can keep them separated by putting them in their own Storage Group/Mailbox Stores. This is an easy way to keep them separated out. Also note that after the move, users will have to republish their free/busy time by logging in with a mail client. Why Microsoft continues to place arbitrary boundaries such as moving servers between Administrative Groups is anyone's guess. An Exchange server's DN is partially composed of the AG name and deep down in the bowels of Exchange, this means something. This is exactly equivalent to Sites in Exchange 5.5. So Microsoft learned its lesson and did not make sites or AG's part of the mailbox DN and therefore moving them between AG's is very simple but then they turn around and make the same stupid mistake with servers??? Idiots. And it is made even worse because they did it correctly with Routing Groups!! Here's a concept, make AG's a property of a server, just like RG's. Wow! One of these days, Microsoft will prove to the world that they can architect their way out of a paper bag. It will probably be long after I am dead, but I have confidence that it will happen eventually. You cannot natively move servers between administrative groups. You can, however, move users between servers in different administrative groups. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Technical Consultant hp Services There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Uso Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group You can move servers between admin groups? So switching to Native mode will allow me to move users between admin groups? Is that what I was missing? Uso - Original Message - From: Greg Deckler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:01 AM Subject: Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group Once you get to Native Mode, you can consolidate any number of sites into administrative groups. Proceed with your migration, then switch to native mode and consolidate. That is the process. To get there, you will probably want to install an E2K server into the second site, move the mailboxes to that server, get rid of all your E55 servers, switch to native mode and then move the server to the first AG and then blast the AG/site for your second site. Let me know if you have any questions. I have the following scenario: 2 Exchange servers in one org but different sites that I need to migrate to Exchange 2000 into one single Admin Group. I can move the first server into the first admin group without problems but how can I move the mailboxes of the 2nd site into the First Admin Group instead of creating a new admin group? That doesn't seem to work. I thought about using Exemerge, is there another way? regards Uso _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sending email from different companies.
Same exact thing, but you would have to mess with the permissions on the second account/mailbox to allow the other account to send As it. The thing that bites in E2K is that you have to have that other account sitting out there. But you could disable it from being able to logon and that would address most of the security hassles. The tricky thing about what Kevan is trying is that he is accepting email for that other domain on his Exchange server. That is what makes things complicated and requires the two mailboxes. If they just wanted to send as the other company but that company's email did not actually come into their Exchange system, he could just use an Contact (Custom Recipient) for the second mailbox and do it that way. This is exactly how I have my alternate identity for Ferris Research configured. And I have configured my Outlook client to not only connect to my Exchange server, but also to connect to my Ferris POP account. Alternatively, I could have had my Ferris email redirected to my infonition mailbox. Essentially the same thing. Wonder how you would do this in Exchange 2000. I don't think it would be as straight forward as in 5.5. - Original Message - From: Greg Deckler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:19 AM Subject: RE: Sending email from different companies. I would do this a little differently. First, set up two mailboxes for the user with the second having a primary SMTP address of the other company. Set them to be associated with the same NT account. Set the second mailbox to have an alternate recipient of the first mailbox. Give the second mailbox a display name of something like Smith, John (other company). Now, the user will use the first mailbox and never go into the second mailbox but since the second mailbox has an alternate recipient pointing to the first mailbox, they will not lose messages. Now, activate the From field in the user's Outlook. This will display a From field to display when they are sending messages. If they want to send as their company, they do not mess with the from field and simply send the email per normal. However, if they want to send as if they are from the other company, they just fill in mailbox number two in the From field. This saves the hassles of having two profiles and jumping back and forth between mailboxes. All mail ends up in a single location and they can send as either person from the same mailbox while in the same Outlook session. If anyone has improvements to this process, please let me know, but this is the slickest way I have found to be able to pull this off. It depends on what you want to achieve... If these people are to *always* send from company B (new company)then just add the new (smtp) mail address in their mailbox properties and set that as primary/ reply address. Alternatively, if they only need to send occassionally, then set up another mailbox for these users, set the mail address as above, assign it to the relevant users and create a new profile for outlook on their pc's. They can then chose to go into either account (by setting up the 'prompt for user' in outlook). You could also go further and set delegate permissions etc. Rob -Original Message- From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 November 2002 11:58 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sending email from different companies. We have set up another company within our own company. Whilst the majority of the time my users will still be sending email from the original (default company) I have two Users who occasionally will need to send email as if it came from the new company with no mention of the original default parent company. We are using Exchange 5.5 SP4 with Outlook 2000 and Outlook XP clients. I have setup Exchange to accept email for the new company I just need to know the best way for them to be set up so as they can quickly and easily send email as if it came from the new company. What is the best way to achieve this scenario. Many thanks for any help offered. Kevan Dickinson Network Engineer Oxford Natural Products Plc The Stable Block Cornbury Park Charlbury Oxfordshire OX7 3EH Tel: +44 1608 813300 Dir: +44 1608 81 Fax: +44 1608 813301 www.oxfordnaturalproducts.com Company No: 3554809 This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and=20 may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Why not leave outlook open and use the accounts tab to schedule send and receives. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 5:57 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP So that users don't have to initiate the send/receive. Currently it takes user intervention to perform the function and we are looking for a way to automate it. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 4:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions What is the design goal? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 3:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Client Outlook Size and Server Mailbox size is not the same.
How long is deleted items retention set for? I think it counts that (could be wrong). Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 11:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Client Outlook Size and Server Mailbox size is not the same. Hi Everyone! Weird things do happens but i am not sure whether this is a bug. Scenario: 2 users located on different Exchange Server. Problem is although their Inbox, Sent Item, Calendar, etc etc are empty (Check the size by going to Outlook Today -- Right Click -- Properties -- Folder Size Tab ) The size of the mailbox is still showing 29MB. Archive have been done to clear the emails/items in the mailbox but still showing the same. Any pointers/known bug will be appreciated. THanks!!! Rgds, K Lee - This email was sent using FREE Catholic Online Webmail. Please tell your family, friends and children about COL Webmail! http://webmail.catholic.org/ _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
I wasn't trying to be funny. If you'd ever get around to asking a proper technical question then I'd answer it. Until then, I'm just trying to understand what the fsck the actual requirements are. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Ha ha!!! Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Do they have an application which reads the e-mail to them in their sleep? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 8:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Yes I am. They are offline users. They are remote users that are paid by the hour. We are trying to find a way to make it automated so they only have to hook their laptops up to the phone line and go to bed. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 12:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions You must mean remote users working in offline mode, right? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 5:57 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP So that users don't have to initiate the send/receive. Currently it takes user intervention to perform the function and we are looking for a way to automate it. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 4:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions What is the design goal? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 3:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Client Outlook Size and Server Mailbox size is not the same.
Yep. You are. -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions How long is deleted items retention set for? I think it counts that (could be wrong). Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 11:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Client Outlook Size and Server Mailbox size is not the same. Hi Everyone! Weird things do happens but i am not sure whether this is a bug. Scenario: 2 users located on different Exchange Server. Problem is although their Inbox, Sent Item, Calendar, etc etc are empty (Check the size by going to Outlook Today -- Right Click -- Properties -- Folder Size Tab ) The size of the mailbox is still showing 29MB. Archive have been done to clear the emails/items in the mailbox but still showing the same. Any pointers/known bug will be appreciated. THanks!!! Rgds, K Lee - This email was sent using FREE Catholic Online Webmail. Please tell your family, friends and children about COL Webmail! http://webmail.catholic.org/ _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Client Outlook Size and Server Mailbox size is not the same.
Oh, well. Nevermind, then. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Client Outlook Size and Server Mailbox size is not the same. Yep. You are. -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions How long is deleted items retention set for? I think it counts that (could be wrong). Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 11:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Client Outlook Size and Server Mailbox size is not the same. Hi Everyone! Weird things do happens but i am not sure whether this is a bug. Scenario: 2 users located on different Exchange Server. Problem is although their Inbox, Sent Item, Calendar, etc etc are empty (Check the size by going to Outlook Today -- Right Click -- Properties -- Folder Size Tab ) The size of the mailbox is still showing 29MB. Archive have been done to clear the emails/items in the mailbox but still showing the same. Any pointers/known bug will be appreciated. THanks!!! Rgds, K Lee - This email was sent using FREE Catholic Online Webmail. Please tell your family, friends and children about COL Webmail! http://webmail.catholic.org/ _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
g What Chris is saying in his typical abrasive way is that so far it looks like you are attempting to create a technical solution to address a non-technical problem. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I wasn't trying to be funny. If you'd ever get around to asking a proper technical question then I'd answer it. Until then, I'm just trying to understand what the fsck the actual requirements are. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Ha ha!!! Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Do they have an application which reads the e-mail to them in their sleep? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 8:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Yes I am. They are offline users. They are remote users that are paid by the hour. We are trying to find a way to make it automated so they only have to hook their laptops up to the phone line and go to bed. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 12:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions You must mean remote users working in offline mode, right? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 5:57 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP So that users don't have to initiate the send/receive. Currently it takes user intervention to perform the function and we are looking for a way to automate it. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 4:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions What is the design goal? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 3:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sending email from different companies.
Yep I agree. I was thinking along those lines. Just wasn't sure and you confirmed what I was pondering. There always is a trade off. - Original Message - From: Greg Deckler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:47 AM Subject: Re: Sending email from different companies. Same exact thing, but you would have to mess with the permissions on the second account/mailbox to allow the other account to send As it. The thing that bites in E2K is that you have to have that other account sitting out there. But you could disable it from being able to logon and that would address most of the security hassles. The tricky thing about what Kevan is trying is that he is accepting email for that other domain on his Exchange server. That is what makes things complicated and requires the two mailboxes. If they just wanted to send as the other company but that company's email did not actually come into their Exchange system, he could just use an Contact (Custom Recipient) for the second mailbox and do it that way. This is exactly how I have my alternate identity for Ferris Research configured. And I have configured my Outlook client to not only connect to my Exchange server, but also to connect to my Ferris POP account. Alternatively, I could have had my Ferris email redirected to my infonition mailbox. Essentially the same thing. Wonder how you would do this in Exchange 2000. I don't think it would be as straight forward as in 5.5. - Original Message - From: Greg Deckler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:19 AM Subject: RE: Sending email from different companies. I would do this a little differently. First, set up two mailboxes for the user with the second having a primary SMTP address of the other company. Set them to be associated with the same NT account. Set the second mailbox to have an alternate recipient of the first mailbox. Give the second mailbox a display name of something like Smith, John (other company). Now, the user will use the first mailbox and never go into the second mailbox but since the second mailbox has an alternate recipient pointing to the first mailbox, they will not lose messages. Now, activate the From field in the user's Outlook. This will display a From field to display when they are sending messages. If they want to send as their company, they do not mess with the from field and simply send the email per normal. However, if they want to send as if they are from the other company, they just fill in mailbox number two in the From field. This saves the hassles of having two profiles and jumping back and forth between mailboxes. All mail ends up in a single location and they can send as either person from the same mailbox while in the same Outlook session. If anyone has improvements to this process, please let me know, but this is the slickest way I have found to be able to pull this off. It depends on what you want to achieve... If these people are to *always* send from company B (new company)then just add the new (smtp) mail address in their mailbox properties and set that as primary/ reply address. Alternatively, if they only need to send occassionally, then set up another mailbox for these users, set the mail address as above, assign it to the relevant users and create a new profile for outlook on their pc's. They can then chose to go into either account (by setting up the 'prompt for user' in outlook). You could also go further and set delegate permissions etc. Rob -Original Message- From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 November 2002 11:58 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sending email from different companies. We have set up another company within our own company. Whilst the majority of the time my users will still be sending email from the original (default company) I have two Users who occasionally will need to send email as if it came from the new company with no mention of the original default parent company. We are using Exchange 5.5 SP4 with Outlook 2000 and Outlook XP clients. I have setup Exchange to accept email for the new company I just need to know the best way for them to be set up so as they can quickly and easily send email as if it came from the new company. What is the best way to achieve this scenario. Many thanks for any help offered. Kevan Dickinson Network Engineer Oxford Natural Products Plc The Stable Block Cornbury Park Charlbury Oxfordshire OX7 3EH Tel: +44 1608 813300 Dir: +44 1608 81 Fax: +44 1608 813301 www.oxfordnaturalproducts.com Company No: 3554809
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Bite me. I said no such thing. What you said my very well be true, but it's not what I said. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions g What Chris is saying in his typical abrasive way is that so far it looks like you are attempting to create a technical solution to address a non-technical problem. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I wasn't trying to be funny. If you'd ever get around to asking a proper technical question then I'd answer it. Until then, I'm just trying to understand what the fsck the actual requirements are. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Ha ha!!! Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Do they have an application which reads the e-mail to them in their sleep? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 8:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Yes I am. They are offline users. They are remote users that are paid by the hour. We are trying to find a way to make it automated so they only have to hook their laptops up to the phone line and go to bed. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 12:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions You must mean remote users working in offline mode, right? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 5:57 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP So that users don't have to initiate the send/receive. Currently it takes user intervention to perform the function and we are looking for a way to automate it. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 4:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions What is the design goal? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 3:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
I think once the guy post the actual problem he's trying to solve, rather than his non-solution to it, it will become clear that either BLAT or MAPISEND will solve the problem. But who knows, since he won't give any details. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:10 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Bite me. I said no such thing. What you said my very well be true, but it's not what I said. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions g What Chris is saying in his typical abrasive way is that so far it looks like you are attempting to create a technical solution to address a non-technical problem. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I wasn't trying to be funny. If you'd ever get around to asking a proper technical question then I'd answer it. Until then, I'm just trying to understand what the fsck the actual requirements are. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Ha ha!!! Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Do they have an application which reads the e-mail to them in their sleep? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 8:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Yes I am. They are offline users. They are remote users that are paid by the hour. We are trying to find a way to make it automated so they only have to hook their laptops up to the phone line and go to bed. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 12:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions You must mean remote users working in offline mode, right? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 5:57 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP So that users don't have to initiate the send/receive. Currently it takes user intervention to perform the function and we are looking for a way to automate it. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 4:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions What is the design goal? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 3:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
If I had that, I would have noticed that he wants a scheduled execution of the F5 key, and would have kept my mouth shut. Or perhaps suggested using the sendkeys thingy off the resource kit (win2000 i think). http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q259103 -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:34 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Subject: Re: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I did, however, ask Santa for the thingy that will read email to me in my sleep. - Original Message - From: Tom Meunier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:31 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I think once the guy post the actual problem he's trying to solve, rather than his non-solution to it, it will become clear that either BLAT or MAPISEND will solve the problem. But who knows, since he won't give any details. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Well, 287677 might work as well depending on what the actual problem to be solved is, but apparently this isn't the week for properly phrased technical questions. -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions If I had that, I would have noticed that he wants a scheduled execution of the F5 key, and would have kept my mouth shut. Or perhaps suggested using the sendkeys thingy off the resource kit (win2000 i think). http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q259103 -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:34 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Subject: Re: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I did, however, ask Santa for the thingy that will read email to me in my sleep. - Original Message - From: Tom Meunier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:31 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I think once the guy post the actual problem he's trying to solve, rather than his non-solution to it, it will become clear that either BLAT or MAPISEND will solve the problem. But who knows, since he won't give any details. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Because we don't want people dialing up more than once. We have about 800 users and only 40 lines. If I use Outlook it will dial ever X minutes. Also people travel with these laptops and use outlook while they are not connected to a phone line. I don't want Outlook trying to perform a sr all day long while people are trying to work. We are also using custom forms in Outlook so its pretty much open all day while they are working and disconnected. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:53 AM To: Exchange Discussions Why not leave outlook open and use the accounts tab to schedule send and receives. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 5:57 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP So that users don't have to initiate the send/receive. Currently it takes user intervention to perform the function and we are looking for a way to automate it. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 4:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions What is the design goal? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 3:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Sounds a VPN solution would make more sense. National coverage is easy these days. - Original Message - From: Gonzalez, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:09 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Because we don't want people dialing up more than once. We have about 800 users and only 40 lines. If I use Outlook it will dial ever X minutes. Also people travel with these laptops and use outlook while they are not connected to a phone line. I don't want Outlook trying to perform a sr all day long while people are trying to work. We are also using custom forms in Outlook so its pretty much open all day while they are working and disconnected. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:53 AM To: Exchange Discussions Why not leave outlook open and use the accounts tab to schedule send and receives. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 5:57 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP So that users don't have to initiate the send/receive. Currently it takes user intervention to perform the function and we are looking for a way to automate it. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 4:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions What is the design goal? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 3:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Global Address List
Thanks Everyone! I think rebuilding the RUS fixed it! -Original Message- From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Friday, November 22, 2002 11:57 AM Posted To: Exchange Newsgroups Conversation: Global Address List Subject: RE: Global Address List Yes along with other services. It's all in the Dependencies! -Original Message- From: Newsgroups [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 11:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Global Address List Do you know if restarting the System Attendant Service will disconnect everyone from the Exchange Server? Thanks -Original Message- From: Bryon Barkley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Friday, November 22, 2002 11:50 AM Posted To: Exchange Newsgroups Conversation: Global Address List Subject: RE: Global Address List Check for ExchangeAL errors. This is tied to the RUS which is tied to the Exchange System Attendant. Try restarting System Attendant service. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Newsgroups Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 11:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Global Address List Yes the RUS is point to the correct DC. I only have 1 domain with 2 domain controllers. And yes there are errors in the app log but don't know if its related. Here is the error; Source: MSExchangeIS Mailbox Category: MTA Connections Event ID: 2007 Description: mt_open returned error 0x15 on database First Storage Group\Mailbox Store I searched KB to see if I could find anything on this error and couldn't find anything either. Thanks -Original Message- From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Friday, November 22, 2002 11:40 AM Posted To: Exchange Newsgroups Conversation: Global Address List Subject: RE: Global Address List Is the RUS pointed at a valid DC? And is the Enterprise RUS (if multiple domains) pointed at a valid DC? Any errors in the App log? -Original Message- From: Newsgroups [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 12:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Global Address List Ok I tried the Update now and Rebuild and still nothing. This is really strange. Any other ideas? Thanks -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Friday, November 22, 2002 10:46 AM Posted To: Exchange Newsgroups Conversation: Global Address List Subject: RE: Global Address List In Exchange System Manager, navigate to Recipients--Recipient Update Service. Right click on them to see the options to force updates. The RUS is used to generate and update address lists. These include the default one and custom ones created based on LDAP query filters. It provides new users with their addressing. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Newsgroups Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 10:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions I'm sorry what is RUS? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Friday, November 22, 2002 9:39 AM Posted To: Exchange Newsgroups Conversation: Global Address List Subject: RE: Global Address List Is the RUS running? -Original Message- From: Newsgroups [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 11:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Yesterday I noticed that every time I create a new user they do not show up in the gal. I made sure that Hide from the Exchange address list was unchecked. I searched MS KB and found Q315531 but that is not the case with me since I have not even touched the filtering of the GAL. It is still using the Default one. Any Ideas? By the way I am running Exchange 2000 SP3. Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
DL Export question
I am trying to export using a csv file to gather DL information...it works fine until I add the SMTP field, it actually works until it goes through about 100 DLs but always stops on one particular DL. Any idea of what can make it stop, or how to identify what the problem is? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DL Export question
Have you checked the log file? -Patrick -Original Message- From: Hatley, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 8:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: DL Export question I am trying to export using a csv file to gather DL information...it works fine until I add the SMTP field, it actually works until it goes through about 100 DLs but always stops on one particular DL. Any idea of what can make it stop, or how to identify what the problem is? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DL Export question
What is about this one DL that is different from the others? -Original Message- From: Hatley, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: DL Export question I am trying to export using a csv file to gather DL information...it works fine until I add the SMTP field, it actually works until it goes through about 100 DLs but always stops on one particular DL. Any idea of what can make it stop, or how to identify what the problem is? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
;) -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Bite me. I said no such thing. What you said my very well be true, but it's not what I said. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions g What Chris is saying in his typical abrasive way is that so far it looks like you are attempting to create a technical solution to address a non-technical problem. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I wasn't trying to be funny. If you'd ever get around to asking a proper technical question then I'd answer it. Until then, I'm just trying to understand what the fsck the actual requirements are. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Ha ha!!! Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Do they have an application which reads the e-mail to them in their sleep? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 8:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Yes I am. They are offline users. They are remote users that are paid by the hour. We are trying to find a way to make it automated so they only have to hook their laptops up to the phone line and go to bed. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 12:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions You must mean remote users working in offline mode, right? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 5:57 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP So that users don't have to initiate the send/receive. Currently it takes user intervention to perform the function and we are looking for a way to automate it. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 4:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions What is the design goal? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 3:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
He said in another message that there are remote users (using Outlook in remote offline mode, but apparently not synching to an OST). The company does not want to pay them to download mail; they want a way to programmatically start Outlook, force it to download mail and then shut down. That is what prompted Chris' remark about reading mail to them in their sleep. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Well, 287677 might work as well depending on what the actual problem to be solved is, but apparently this isn't the week for properly phrased technical questions. -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions If I had that, I would have noticed that he wants a scheduled execution of the F5 key, and would have kept my mouth shut. Or perhaps suggested using the sendkeys thingy off the resource kit (win2000 i think). http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q259103 -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:34 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Subject: Re: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I did, however, ask Santa for the thingy that will read email to me in my sleep. - Original Message - From: Tom Meunier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:31 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I think once the guy post the actual problem he's trying to solve, rather than his non-solution to it, it will become clear that either BLAT or MAPISEND will solve the problem. But who knows, since he won't give any details. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
That is the perfect description for an environment where Outlook is setup to use an OST in offline mode. And the s/r frequency is configurable. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Because we don't want people dialing up more than once. We have about 800 users and only 40 lines. If I use Outlook it will dial ever X minutes. Also people travel with these laptops and use outlook while they are not connected to a phone line. I don't want Outlook trying to perform a sr all day long while people are trying to work. We are also using custom forms in Outlook so its pretty much open all day while they are working and disconnected. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:53 AM To: Exchange Discussions Why not leave outlook open and use the accounts tab to schedule send and receives. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 5:57 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP So that users don't have to initiate the send/receive. Currently it takes user intervention to perform the function and we are looking for a way to automate it. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 4:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions What is the design goal? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 3:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do was post back if you knew something. You don't have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of anything. Maybe you don't know what a command switch is? I don't know. All I am looking for is something like Outlook /sendreceive (obviously that isn't it or I wouldn't be posting this), so that I could put the switch in the scheduled task to run Outlook.exe, setup Outlook to dial if there is no connection, run a send/receive, and be done with it. Or if there was a third party app that would do this for me. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:51 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well, 287677 might work as well depending on what the actual problem to be solved is, but apparently this isn't the week for properly phrased technical questions. -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions If I had that, I would have noticed that he wants a scheduled execution of the F5 key, and would have kept my mouth shut. Or perhaps suggested using the sendkeys thingy off the resource kit (win2000 i think). http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q259103 -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:34 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Subject: Re: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I did, however, ask Santa for the thingy that will read email to me in my sleep. - Original Message - From: Tom Meunier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:31 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I think once the guy post the actual problem he's trying to solve, rather than his non-solution to it, it will become clear that either BLAT or MAPISEND will solve the problem. But who knows, since he won't give any details. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DL Export question
Actually its not just the SMTP field that makes it stop on that DL, it worked when I did Directory and alias name only, but when I try to add other fields it fails...always on that one DL. I don't see anything different about this one than others. Where is the log file? I looked at the eventvwr on the server but there was nothing there. -Original Message- From: Hatley, Ken Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: DL Export question I am trying to export using a csv file to gather DL information...it works fine until I add the SMTP field, it actually works until it goes through about 100 DLs but always stops on one particular DL. Any idea of what can make it stop, or how to identify what the problem is? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Wow.Chris being a total jerk again. Come on tell me something new :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do was post back if you knew something. You don't have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of anything. Maybe you don't know what a command switch is? I don't know. All I am looking for is something like Outlook /sendreceive (obviously that isn't it or I wouldn't be posting this), so that I could put the switch in the scheduled task to run Outlook.exe, setup Outlook to dial if there is no connection, run a send/receive, and be done with it. Or if there was a third party app that would do this for me. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:51 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well, 287677 might work as well depending on what the actual problem to be solved is, but apparently this isn't the week for properly phrased technical questions. -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions If I had that, I would have noticed that he wants a scheduled execution of the F5 key, and would have kept my mouth shut. Or perhaps suggested using the sendkeys thingy off the resource kit (win2000 i think). http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q259103 -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:34 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Subject: Re: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I did, however, ask Santa for the thingy that will read email to me in my sleep. - Original Message - From: Tom Meunier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:31 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I think once the guy post the actual problem he's trying to solve, rather than his non-solution to it, it will become clear that either BLAT or MAPISEND will solve the problem. But who knows, since he won't give any details. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
That's how we do it. Costs us $19.95 a month for an ATT WorldNet account with POPs in every state our travelling users just connect up to the local ATT POP and VPN into our network. Works great. -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 8:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Sounds a VPN solution would make more sense. National coverage is easy these days. - Original Message - From: Gonzalez, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:09 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Because we don't want people dialing up more than once. We have about 800 users and only 40 lines. If I use Outlook it will dial ever X minutes. Also people travel with these laptops and use outlook while they are not connected to a phone line. I don't want Outlook trying to perform a sr all day long while people are trying to work. We are also using custom forms in Outlook so its pretty much open all day while they are working and disconnected. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:53 AM To: Exchange Discussions Why not leave outlook open and use the accounts tab to schedule send and receives. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 5:57 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP So that users don't have to initiate the send/receive. Currently it takes user intervention to perform the function and we are looking for a way to automate it. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 4:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions What is the design goal? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 3:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ:
RE: Problems with default message in OOA
Doesn't that refer to that secret code phrase that the Swedish Chef on the Muppets used to use? Bork, bork, bork! ;o) -Original Message- From: MSExchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 10:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with default message in OOA What does CleanSweep do and what is BORK? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 11:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with default message in OOA Use CleanSweep from BORK. -Original Message- From: MSExchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 12:09 PM To: Exchange Discussions We are using Exchange 5.5 Sp4 on Windows 2000 Sp2. The Out of Office Assistant for one of our users will not send out the default message she supplies when she turns it on. Our IMS is configured to disallow OOA messages to the internet, but the message does not even get sent to people in our Exchange environment. If she turns on the OOA and anyone sends her a message for the first time since the OOA is turned on, the OOA reply is not sent back. I set up a rule within the OOA to reply to all messages with a specific template, turned on the OOA and sent a note to her from my account. I got the message configured in the OOA rule, but still didn't get the default message. I looked at article 297281 in the knowledge base, but that doesn't apply here (she doesn't have an alternate recipient enabled.) Has anyone seen this before? -- Leema Lallmamode Arizona State University _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DL Export question
What's different about that DL? Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Hatley, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: DL Export question I am trying to export using a csv file to gather DL information...it works fine until I add the SMTP field, it actually works until it goes through about 100 DLs but always stops on one particular DL. Any idea of what can make it stop, or how to identify what the problem is? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Well... First of all, Chris isn't being a jerk. In addition, if you're using your client's resources -- ie, the phone and the computer -- for several hours at night, don't they deserve renumeration? Nevertheless... What you want is for Outlook to start, dial up the server, download mail, hang up, and shut off. Ok. I suppose that might be doable, sort of. Now, you don't mention what operating system your users are using. I have Win2KPro. In START/PROGRAMS/ACCESSORIES/SYSTEM TOOLS, there's a program called Scheduled Tasks. In that, you can schedule outlook to be launched, and if you look at the advanced properties of the task, on the SETTINGS tab you'll see a check box for Stop the Task if it runs for X hours and X minutes. That MIGHT shut outlook down. Honestly, I don't know. You can test it and try. Even if it does, there's no way for the task to know if all the mail has been downloaded, so you'll have to guess. Also, I doubt that this would be a graceful shutdown, so you run the risk of causing problems with your PSTs, which you must be using. As Daniel said, there are rarely technological solutions to behavioral problems. I think this is one of those times, and the real solution is to fix it very differently. A far better solution is a VPN, as has been mentioned, or even Outlook Web Access, which might be somewhat faster than POPing. Did you look at the technet article Chris kindly posted? Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do was post back if you knew something. You don't have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of anything. Maybe you don't know what a command switch is? I don't know. All I am looking for is something like Outlook /sendreceive (obviously that isn't it or I wouldn't be posting this), so that I could put the switch in the scheduled task to run Outlook.exe, setup Outlook to dial if there is no connection, run a send/receive, and be done with it. Or if there was a third party app that would do this for me. \ _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
You failed to provide sufficient detail in the question so that those trying to provide assistance could do so. Sprinkled throughout a half dozen posts were an ever changing set of requirements and hints as to the actual design goal. Below you've managed to summarize them into what almost resembles a proper technical question.[1] I know a boatload about configuring and using Outlook offline... Enough to fill several chapters of a book. Did you want me to type up everything I knew in the hops that some portion thereof was relevant to a question you'd not sufficiently defined. I also know more than a thing or two about Outlook command line switches (both the documented and undocumented ones) and if there was one which was relevant to the finally properly phrased technical question you've asked I'd post it. But there isn't. The Q article I referenced appears to answer your question to the point where all a user would have to do when they are done for the day is press F9. Are you saying that having the user press F9 when they are done for the day is too technical of a task? If that's the case, then I agree with some earlier posters that a press keys app of some kind would likely be appropriate. [1] We'll ignore a few minor items like there's no such thing as Outlook XP. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do was post back if you knew something. You don't have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of anything. Maybe you don't know what a command switch is? I don't know. All I am looking for is something like Outlook /sendreceive (obviously that isn't it or I wouldn't be posting this), so that I could put the switch in the scheduled task to run Outlook.exe, setup Outlook to dial if there is no connection, run a send/receive, and be done with it. Or if there was a third party app that would do this for me. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:51 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well, 287677 might work as well depending on what the actual problem to be solved is, but apparently this isn't the week for properly phrased technical questions. -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions If I had that, I would have noticed that he wants a scheduled execution of the F5 key, and would have kept my mouth shut. Or perhaps suggested using the sendkeys thingy off the resource kit (win2000 i think). http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q259103 -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:34 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Subject: Re: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I did, however, ask Santa for the thingy that will read email to me in my sleep. - Original Message - From: Tom Meunier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:31 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I think once the guy post the actual problem he's trying to solve, rather than his non-solution to it, it will become clear that either BLAT or MAPISEND will solve the problem. But who knows, since he won't give any details.
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how I ought to be doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions with gusto and aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined to engage in silly banter or name calling. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Wow.Chris being a total jerk again. Come on tell me something new :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do was post back if you knew something. You don't have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of anything. Maybe you don't know what a command switch is? I don't know. All I am looking for is something like Outlook /sendreceive (obviously that isn't it or I wouldn't be posting this), so that I could put the switch in the scheduled task to run Outlook.exe, setup Outlook to dial if there is no connection, run a send/receive, and be done with it. Or if there was a third party app that would do this for me. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:51 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well, 287677 might work as well depending on what the actual problem to be solved is, but apparently this isn't the week for properly phrased technical questions. -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions If I had that, I would have noticed that he wants a scheduled execution of the F5 key, and would have kept my mouth shut. Or perhaps suggested using the sendkeys thingy off the resource kit (win2000 i think). http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q259103 -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:34 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Subject: Re: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I did, however, ask Santa for the thingy that will read email to me in my sleep. - Original Message - From: Tom Meunier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:31 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I think once the guy post the actual problem he's trying to solve, rather than his non-solution to it, it will become clear that either BLAT or MAPISEND will solve the problem. But who knows, since he won't give any details. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ:
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
The process doesn't necessarily have to shut the pc down. It's a laptop and it will hibernate. These are XP pro laptops. I know about the scheduled task. That is mainly what I am looking to do. I am just looking for a switch that performs a s/r when Outlook opens. Outlook already will then detect the connection state and dial. It will disconnect automatically when it's done downloading all the mail to the OST. You don't need to specify a time for how long it needs to download. I am just trying to find something that hits F9 when Outlook opens. I can get outlook to open I just need a command for 1 stinking key stroke. After that I know how to get Outlook to do the rest. If Outlook is open in the morning when the user wakes up that's fine. We can live with that. -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well... First of all, Chris isn't being a jerk. In addition, if you're using your client's resources -- ie, the phone and the computer -- for several hours at night, don't they deserve renumeration? Nevertheless... What you want is for Outlook to start, dial up the server, download mail, hang up, and shut off. Ok. I suppose that might be doable, sort of. Now, you don't mention what operating system your users are using. I have Win2KPro. In START/PROGRAMS/ACCESSORIES/SYSTEM TOOLS, there's a program called Scheduled Tasks. In that, you can schedule outlook to be launched, and if you look at the advanced properties of the task, on the SETTINGS tab you'll see a check box for Stop the Task if it runs for X hours and X minutes. That MIGHT shut outlook down. Honestly, I don't know. You can test it and try. Even if it does, there's no way for the task to know if all the mail has been downloaded, so you'll have to guess. Also, I doubt that this would be a graceful shutdown, so you run the risk of causing problems with your PSTs, which you must be using. As Daniel said, there are rarely technological solutions to behavioral problems. I think this is one of those times, and the real solution is to fix it very differently. A far better solution is a VPN, as has been mentioned, or even Outlook Web Access, which might be somewhat faster than POPing. Did you look at the technet article Chris kindly posted? Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do was post back if you knew something. You don't have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of anything. Maybe you don't know what a command switch is? I don't know. All I am looking for is something like Outlook /sendreceive (obviously that isn't it or I wouldn't be posting this), so that I could put the switch in the scheduled task to run Outlook.exe, setup Outlook to dial if there is no connection, run a send/receive, and be done with it. Or if there was a third party app that would do this for me. \ _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives:
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
I didn't want to confuse/bore people with a long story of what I was trying to accomplish just find out if there was a switch for the F9 key. I appreciate that you may need more information in most cases but I didn't think it was necessary for this question. The reason why we don't want them to come home and just hit F9 is because the company didn't want to purchase more lines for them to dial in on. Everyone comes home and dials then the lines will get full quite quickly, where if I could create a scheduled task, then a) users wouldn't have to do anything and b) we could offsite the times to keep the usage down. When did I say there was no such thing as Outlook XP? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions You failed to provide sufficient detail in the question so that those trying to provide assistance could do so. Sprinkled throughout a half dozen posts were an ever changing set of requirements and hints as to the actual design goal. Below you've managed to summarize them into what almost resembles a proper technical question.[1] I know a boatload about configuring and using Outlook offline... Enough to fill several chapters of a book. Did you want me to type up everything I knew in the hops that some portion thereof was relevant to a question you'd not sufficiently defined. I also know more than a thing or two about Outlook command line switches (both the documented and undocumented ones) and if there was one which was relevant to the finally properly phrased technical question you've asked I'd post it. But there isn't. The Q article I referenced appears to answer your question to the point where all a user would have to do when they are done for the day is press F9. Are you saying that having the user press F9 when they are done for the day is too technical of a task? If that's the case, then I agree with some earlier posters that a press keys app of some kind would likely be appropriate. [1] We'll ignore a few minor items like there's no such thing as Outlook XP. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do was post back if you knew something. You don't have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of anything. Maybe you don't know what a command switch is? I don't know. All I am looking for is something like Outlook /sendreceive (obviously that isn't it or I wouldn't be posting this), so that I could put the switch in the scheduled task to run Outlook.exe, setup Outlook to dial if there is no connection, run a send/receive, and be done with it. Or if there was a third party app that would do this for me. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:51 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well, 287677 might work as well depending on what the actual problem to be solved is, but apparently this isn't the week for properly phrased technical questions. -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions If I had that, I would have noticed that he wants a scheduled execution of the F5 key, and would have kept my mouth shut. Or perhaps suggested using the sendkeys thingy off the resource kit (win2000 i think). http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q259103 -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Monday,
Re: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Lets see 800 users 40 incoming lines. Assume each person checks his email 8 times a day and stays on for 20 minutes. Twenty people per line. There are 3600 minutes in a day. Eight accesses, times twenty people, times 20 minutes per call comes out to 3200. Wow I would like to see that phone bill. - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how I ought to be doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions with gusto and aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined to engage in silly banter or name calling. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Wow.Chris being a total jerk again. Come on tell me something new :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do was post back if you knew something. You don't have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of anything. Maybe you don't know what a command switch is? I don't know. All I am looking for is something like Outlook /sendreceive (obviously that isn't it or I wouldn't be posting this), so that I could put the switch in the scheduled task to run Outlook.exe, setup Outlook to dial if there is no connection, run a send/receive, and be done with it. Or if there was a third party app that would do this for me. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:51 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well, 287677 might work as well depending on what the actual problem to be solved is, but apparently this isn't the week for properly phrased technical questions. -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions If I had that, I would have noticed that he wants a scheduled execution of the F5 key, and would have kept my mouth shut. Or perhaps suggested using the sendkeys thingy off the resource kit (win2000 i think). http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q259103 -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:34 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Subject: Re: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I did, however, ask Santa for the thingy that will read email to me in my sleep. - Original Message - From: Tom Meunier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:31 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I think once the guy post the actual problem he's trying to solve, rather than his non-solution to it, it will become clear that either BLAT or MAPISEND will solve the problem. But who knows, since he won't give any details. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives:
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Oh no my only purpose now is to sit on this list and point out every time you're an ass to everyone. Good thing you don't keep me waiting long -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how I ought to be doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions with gusto and aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined to engage in silly banter or name calling. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Wow.Chris being a total jerk again. Come on tell me something new :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do was post back if you knew something. You don't have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of anything. Maybe you don't know what a command switch is? I don't know. All I am looking for is something like Outlook /sendreceive (obviously that isn't it or I wouldn't be posting this), so that I could put the switch in the scheduled task to run Outlook.exe, setup Outlook to dial if there is no connection, run a send/receive, and be done with it. Or if there was a third party app that would do this for me. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:51 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well, 287677 might work as well depending on what the actual problem to be solved is, but apparently this isn't the week for properly phrased technical questions. -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions If I had that, I would have noticed that he wants a scheduled execution of the F5 key, and would have kept my mouth shut. Or perhaps suggested using the sendkeys thingy off the resource kit (win2000 i think). http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q259103 -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:34 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Subject: Re: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I did, however, ask Santa for the thingy that will read email to me in my sleep. - Original Message - From: Tom Meunier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:31 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I think once the guy post the actual problem he's trying to solve, rather than his non-solution to it, it will become clear that either BLAT or MAPISEND will solve the problem. But who knows, since he won't give any details. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
You didn't say there is no such thing as Outllok XP, Chris was pointing out the fact that there isn't and you are calling it that. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I didn't want to confuse/bore people with a long story of what I was trying to accomplish just find out if there was a switch for the F9 key. I appreciate that you may need more information in most cases but I didn't think it was necessary for this question. The reason why we don't want them to come home and just hit F9 is because the company didn't want to purchase more lines for them to dial in on. Everyone comes home and dials then the lines will get full quite quickly, where if I could create a scheduled task, then a) users wouldn't have to do anything and b) we could offsite the times to keep the usage down. When did I say there was no such thing as Outlook XP? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions You failed to provide sufficient detail in the question so that those trying to provide assistance could do so. Sprinkled throughout a half dozen posts were an ever changing set of requirements and hints as to the actual design goal. Below you've managed to summarize them into what almost resembles a proper technical question.[1] I know a boatload about configuring and using Outlook offline... Enough to fill several chapters of a book. Did you want me to type up everything I knew in the hops that some portion thereof was relevant to a question you'd not sufficiently defined. I also know more than a thing or two about Outlook command line switches (both the documented and undocumented ones) and if there was one which was relevant to the finally properly phrased technical question you've asked I'd post it. But there isn't. The Q article I referenced appears to answer your question to the point where all a user would have to do when they are done for the day is press F9. Are you saying that having the user press F9 when they are done for the day is too technical of a task? If that's the case, then I agree with some earlier posters that a press keys app of some kind would likely be appropriate. [1] We'll ignore a few minor items like there's no such thing as Outlook XP. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do was post back if you knew something. You don't have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of anything. Maybe you don't know what a command switch is? I don't know. All I am looking for is something like Outlook /sendreceive (obviously that isn't it or I wouldn't be posting this), so that I could put the switch in the scheduled task to run Outlook.exe, setup Outlook to dial if there is no connection, run a send/receive, and be done with it. Or if there was a third party app that would do this for me. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:51 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well, 287677 might work as well depending on what the actual problem to be solved is, but apparently this isn't the week for properly phrased technical questions. -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions If I had that, I would have noticed that
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Sounds to me like all of these issues are just the cost of doing business. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Lets see 800 users 40 incoming lines. Assume each person checks his email 8 times a day and stays on for 20 minutes. Twenty people per line. There are 3600 minutes in a day. Eight accesses, times twenty people, times 20 minutes per call comes out to 3200. Wow I would like to see that phone bill. - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how I ought to be doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions with gusto and aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined to engage in silly banter or name calling. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Wow.Chris being a total jerk again. Come on tell me something new :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do was post back if you knew something. You don't have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of anything. Maybe you don't know what a command switch is? I don't know. All I am looking for is something like Outlook /sendreceive (obviously that isn't it or I wouldn't be posting this), so that I could put the switch in the scheduled task to run Outlook.exe, setup Outlook to dial if there is no connection, run a send/receive, and be done with it. Or if there was a third party app that would do this for me. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:51 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well, 287677 might work as well depending on what the actual problem to be solved is, but apparently this isn't the week for properly phrased technical questions. -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions If I had that, I would have noticed that he wants a scheduled execution of the F5 key, and would have kept my mouth shut. Or perhaps suggested using the sendkeys thingy off the resource kit (win2000 i think). http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q259103 -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:34 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Subject: Re: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I did, however, ask Santa for the thingy that will read email to me in my sleep. - Original Message - From: Tom Meunier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:31 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I think once the guy post the actual problem he's trying to solve, rather than
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
You may not have wanted to confuse/bore people but it appears that you were getting answers all over the spectrum based on the information you provided. Providing detailed information will rarely if ever get complaints form this list. You didn't say there wasn't an Outlook XP, you said there was. There isn't. But again, it's a minor issue with a better phrased technical question than your original. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions I didn't want to confuse/bore people with a long story of what I was trying to accomplish just find out if there was a switch for the F9 key. I appreciate that you may need more information in most cases but I didn't think it was necessary for this question. The reason why we don't want them to come home and just hit F9 is because the company didn't want to purchase more lines for them to dial in on. Everyone comes home and dials then the lines will get full quite quickly, where if I could create a scheduled task, then a) users wouldn't have to do anything and b) we could offsite the times to keep the usage down. When did I say there was no such thing as Outlook XP? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions You failed to provide sufficient detail in the question so that those trying to provide assistance could do so. Sprinkled throughout a half dozen posts were an ever changing set of requirements and hints as to the actual design goal. Below you've managed to summarize them into what almost resembles a proper technical question.[1] I know a boatload about configuring and using Outlook offline... Enough to fill several chapters of a book. Did you want me to type up everything I knew in the hops that some portion thereof was relevant to a question you'd not sufficiently defined. I also know more than a thing or two about Outlook command line switches (both the documented and undocumented ones) and if there was one which was relevant to the finally properly phrased technical question you've asked I'd post it. But there isn't. The Q article I referenced appears to answer your question to the point where all a user would have to do when they are done for the day is press F9. Are you saying that having the user press F9 when they are done for the day is too technical of a task? If that's the case, then I agree with some earlier posters that a press keys app of some kind would likely be appropriate. [1] We'll ignore a few minor items like there's no such thing as Outlook XP. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do was post back if you knew something. You don't have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of anything. Maybe you don't know what a command switch is? I don't know. All I am looking for is something like Outlook /sendreceive (obviously that isn't it or I wouldn't be posting this), so that I could put the switch in the scheduled task to run Outlook.exe, setup Outlook to dial if there is no connection, run a send/receive, and be done with it. Or if there was a third party app that would do this for me. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:51 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well,
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Actually they don't check their email all day. They just download the days mail and read that till the next day. We are trying to implement wireless cards so that they can always check mail. Right now its too inconsistent for our reps. They stock CD's at stores and there is too much RF in many for it to work. Plus there isn't enough 3G coverage yet nationally. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Lets see 800 users 40 incoming lines. Assume each person checks his email 8 times a day and stays on for 20 minutes. Twenty people per line. There are 3600 minutes in a day. Eight accesses, times twenty people, times 20 minutes per call comes out to 3200. Wow I would like to see that phone bill. - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how I ought to be doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions with gusto and aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined to engage in silly banter or name calling. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Wow.Chris being a total jerk again. Come on tell me something new :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do was post back if you knew something. You don't have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of anything. Maybe you don't know what a command switch is? I don't know. All I am looking for is something like Outlook /sendreceive (obviously that isn't it or I wouldn't be posting this), so that I could put the switch in the scheduled task to run Outlook.exe, setup Outlook to dial if there is no connection, run a send/receive, and be done with it. Or if there was a third party app that would do this for me. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:51 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well, 287677 might work as well depending on what the actual problem to be solved is, but apparently this isn't the week for properly phrased technical questions. -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions If I had that, I would have noticed that he wants a scheduled execution of the F5 key, and would have kept my mouth shut. Or perhaps suggested using the sendkeys thingy off the resource kit (win2000 i think). http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q259103 -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:34 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Subject: Re: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I did, however, ask Santa for the thingy that will read email to me in my sleep. - Original Message - From: Tom Meunier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
YOU didn't say it, Chris said it. There is no such think as Outlook XP. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I didn't want to confuse/bore people with a long story of what I was trying to accomplish just find out if there was a switch for the F9 key. I appreciate that you may need more information in most cases but I didn't think it was necessary for this question. The reason why we don't want them to come home and just hit F9 is because the company didn't want to purchase more lines for them to dial in on. Everyone comes home and dials then the lines will get full quite quickly, where if I could create a scheduled task, then a) users wouldn't have to do anything and b) we could offsite the times to keep the usage down. When did I say there was no such thing as Outlook XP? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions You failed to provide sufficient detail in the question so that those trying to provide assistance could do so. Sprinkled throughout a half dozen posts were an ever changing set of requirements and hints as to the actual design goal. Below you've managed to summarize them into what almost resembles a proper technical question.[1] I know a boatload about configuring and using Outlook offline... Enough to fill several chapters of a book. Did you want me to type up everything I knew in the hops that some portion thereof was relevant to a question you'd not sufficiently defined. I also know more than a thing or two about Outlook command line switches (both the documented and undocumented ones) and if there was one which was relevant to the finally properly phrased technical question you've asked I'd post it. But there isn't. The Q article I referenced appears to answer your question to the point where all a user would have to do when they are done for the day is press F9. Are you saying that having the user press F9 when they are done for the day is too technical of a task? If that's the case, then I agree with some earlier posters that a press keys app of some kind would likely be appropriate. [1] We'll ignore a few minor items like there's no such thing as Outlook XP. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do was post back if you knew something. You don't have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of anything. Maybe you don't know what a command switch is? I don't know. All I am looking for is something like Outlook /sendreceive (obviously that isn't it or I wouldn't be posting this), so that I could put the switch in the scheduled task to run Outlook.exe, setup Outlook to dial if there is no connection, run a send/receive, and be done with it. Or if there was a third party app that would do this for me. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:51 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well, 287677 might work as well depending on what the actual problem to be solved is, but apparently this isn't the week for properly phrased technical questions. -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:45 AM To:
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Not shutting down the PC, shutting down outlook. You can set Outlook to download mail when it opens and/or closes. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP The process doesn't necessarily have to shut the pc down. It's a laptop and it will hibernate. These are XP pro laptops. I know about the scheduled task. That is mainly what I am looking to do. I am just looking for a switch that performs a s/r when Outlook opens. Outlook already will then detect the connection state and dial. It will disconnect automatically when it's done downloading all the mail to the OST. You don't need to specify a time for how long it needs to download. I am just trying to find something that hits F9 when Outlook opens. I can get outlook to open I just need a command for 1 stinking key stroke. After that I know how to get Outlook to do the rest. If Outlook is open in the morning when the user wakes up that's fine. We can live with that. -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well... First of all, Chris isn't being a jerk. In addition, if you're using your client's resources -- ie, the phone and the computer -- for several hours at night, don't they deserve renumeration? Nevertheless... What you want is for Outlook to start, dial up the server, download mail, hang up, and shut off. Ok. I suppose that might be doable, sort of. Now, you don't mention what operating system your users are using. I have Win2KPro. In START/PROGRAMS/ACCESSORIES/SYSTEM TOOLS, there's a program called Scheduled Tasks. In that, you can schedule outlook to be launched, and if you look at the advanced properties of the task, on the SETTINGS tab you'll see a check box for Stop the Task if it runs for X hours and X minutes. That MIGHT shut outlook down. Honestly, I don't know. You can test it and try. Even if it does, there's no way for the task to know if all the mail has been downloaded, so you'll have to guess. Also, I doubt that this would be a graceful shutdown, so you run the risk of causing problems with your PSTs, which you must be using. As Daniel said, there are rarely technological solutions to behavioral problems. I think this is one of those times, and the real solution is to fix it very differently. A far better solution is a VPN, as has been mentioned, or even Outlook Web Access, which might be somewhat faster than POPing. Did you look at the technet article Chris kindly posted? Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do was post back if you knew something. You don't have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of anything. Maybe you don't know what a command switch is? I don't know. All I am looking for is something like Outlook /sendreceive (obviously that isn't it or I wouldn't be posting this), so that I could put the switch in the scheduled task to run Outlook.exe, setup Outlook to dial if there is no connection, run a send/receive, and be done with it. Or if there was a third party app that would do this for me. \
OT - IIS redirect
Hey all. I am trying to figure out if there is an easy way to set up a redirect to the same page but on a different port. for example when someone reaches the default website on port 80, I'd like it to get redirected to the default website on port 8383. I have tried to set up redirect properties in IIS Admin as follows: *;*;:8383 but when I go to http://server.com, I get redirected to http://server.com/:8383 - IIS sticks the slash in the middle and ruins everything. By the way, I have a similar redirect working fine on my OWA front-ends, only I am not redirecting to a different port. It is configured as *;*;/exchange and it gets me from the default website straight to the /exchange virtual directory. That one works great. Thanks for any ideas! Andrey _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
I'm sorry. I didn't realize asking for additional technical information so that I could answer a question (for free) was ass like behavior. Thank you for clarifying that. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:51 PM To: Exchange Discussions Oh no my only purpose now is to sit on this list and point out every time you're an ass to everyone. Good thing you don't keep me waiting long -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how I ought to be doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions with gusto and aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined to engage in silly banter or name calling. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Wow.Chris being a total jerk again. Come on tell me something new :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do was post back if you knew something. You don't have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of anything. Maybe you don't know what a command switch is? I don't know. All I am looking for is something like Outlook /sendreceive (obviously that isn't it or I wouldn't be posting this), so that I could put the switch in the scheduled task to run Outlook.exe, setup Outlook to dial if there is no connection, run a send/receive, and be done with it. Or if there was a third party app that would do this for me. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:51 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well, 287677 might work as well depending on what the actual problem to be solved is, but apparently this isn't the week for properly phrased technical questions. -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions If I had that, I would have noticed that he wants a scheduled execution of the F5 key, and would have kept my mouth shut. Or perhaps suggested using the sendkeys thingy off the resource kit (win2000 i think). http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q259103 -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:34 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Subject: Re: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I did, however, ask Santa for the thingy that will read email to me in my sleep. - Original Message - From: Tom Meunier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:31 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I think once the guy post the actual problem he's trying to solve, rather than his
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Just to be clear; you're using .OSTs or .PSTs? Also, what was wrong with Tools | Options | Mail Setup | Send Immediately When Connected? Aloha, -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 9:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions The process doesn't necessarily have to shut the pc down. It's a laptop and it will hibernate. These are XP pro laptops. I know about the scheduled task. That is mainly what I am looking to do. I am just looking for a switch that performs a s/r when Outlook opens. Outlook already will then detect the connection state and dial. It will disconnect automatically when it's done downloading all the mail to the OST. You don't need to specify a time for how long it needs to download. I am just trying to find something that hits F9 when Outlook opens. I can get outlook to open I just need a command for 1 stinking key stroke. After that I know how to get Outlook to do the rest. If Outlook is open in the morning when the user wakes up that's fine. We can live with that. -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well... First of all, Chris isn't being a jerk. In addition, if you're using your client's resources -- ie, the phone and the computer -- for several hours at night, don't they deserve renumeration? Nevertheless... What you want is for Outlook to start, dial up the server, download mail, hang up, and shut off. Ok. I suppose that might be doable, sort of. Now, you don't mention what operating system your users are using. I have Win2KPro. In START/PROGRAMS/ACCESSORIES/SYSTEM TOOLS, there's a program called Scheduled Tasks. In that, you can schedule outlook to be launched, and if you look at the advanced properties of the task, on the SETTINGS tab you'll see a check box for Stop the Task if it runs for X hours and X minutes. That MIGHT shut outlook down. Honestly, I don't know. You can test it and try. Even if it does, there's no way for the task to know if all the mail has been downloaded, so you'll have to guess. Also, I doubt that this would be a graceful shutdown, so you run the risk of causing problems with your PSTs, which you must be using. As Daniel said, there are rarely technological solutions to behavioral problems. I think this is one of those times, and the real solution is to fix it very differently. A far better solution is a VPN, as has been mentioned, or even Outlook Web Access, which might be somewhat faster than POPing. Did you look at the technet article Chris kindly posted? Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do was post back if you knew something. You don't have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of anything. Maybe you don't know what a command switch is? I don't know. All I am looking for is something like Outlook /sendreceive (obviously that isn't it or I wouldn't be posting this), so that I could put the switch in the scheduled task to run Outlook.exe, setup Outlook to dial if there is no
Re: OT - IIS redirect
Not a IIS guru but maybe put the IP address then the port address? - Original Message - From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:06 PM Subject: OT - IIS redirect Hey all. I am trying to figure out if there is an easy way to set up a redirect to the same page but on a different port. for example when someone reaches the default website on port 80, I'd like it to get redirected to the default website on port 8383. I have tried to set up redirect properties in IIS Admin as follows: *;*;:8383 but when I go to http://server.com, I get redirected to http://server.com/:8383 - IIS sticks the slash in the middle and ruins everything. By the way, I have a similar redirect working fine on my OWA front-ends, only I am not redirecting to a different port. It is configured as *;*;/exchange and it gets me from the default website straight to the /exchange virtual directory. That one works great. Thanks for any ideas! Andrey _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Who sends them all this stuff? Is it the home office, or is it a number of people all over the place? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Actually they don't check their email all day. They just download the days mail and read that till the next day. We are trying to implement wireless cards so that they can always check mail. Right now its too inconsistent for our reps. They stock CD's at stores and there is too much RF in many for it to work. Plus there isn't enough 3G coverage yet nationally. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Lets see 800 users 40 incoming lines. Assume each person checks his email 8 times a day and stays on for 20 minutes. Twenty people per line. There are 3600 minutes in a day. Eight accesses, times twenty people, times 20 minutes per call comes out to 3200. Wow I would like to see that phone bill. - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how I ought to be doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions with gusto and aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined to engage in silly banter or name calling. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Wow.Chris being a total jerk again. Come on tell me something new :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do was post back if you knew something. You don't have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of anything. Maybe you don't know what a command switch is? I don't know. All I am looking for is something like Outlook /sendreceive (obviously that isn't it or I wouldn't be posting this), so that I could put the switch in the scheduled task to run Outlook.exe, setup Outlook to dial if there is no connection, run a send/receive, and be done with it. Or if there was a third party app that would do this for me. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:51 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well, 287677 might work as well depending on what the actual problem to be solved is, but apparently this isn't the week for properly phrased technical questions. -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions If I had that, I would have noticed that he wants a scheduled execution of the F5 key, and would have kept my mouth shut. Or perhaps suggested using the sendkeys thingy off the resource kit (win2000 i think). http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q259103 -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:34 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for
Re: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
I was thinking that Wireless would be a good solution. Especially if it is just text messages. Good Luck. - Original Message - From: Gonzalez, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:04 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Actually they don't check their email all day. They just download the days mail and read that till the next day. We are trying to implement wireless cards so that they can always check mail. Right now its too inconsistent for our reps. They stock CD's at stores and there is too much RF in many for it to work. Plus there isn't enough 3G coverage yet nationally. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Lets see 800 users 40 incoming lines. Assume each person checks his email 8 times a day and stays on for 20 minutes. Twenty people per line. There are 3600 minutes in a day. Eight accesses, times twenty people, times 20 minutes per call comes out to 3200. Wow I would like to see that phone bill. - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how I ought to be doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions with gusto and aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined to engage in silly banter or name calling. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Wow.Chris being a total jerk again. Come on tell me something new :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do was post back if you knew something. You don't have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of anything. Maybe you don't know what a command switch is? I don't know. All I am looking for is something like Outlook /sendreceive (obviously that isn't it or I wouldn't be posting this), so that I could put the switch in the scheduled task to run Outlook.exe, setup Outlook to dial if there is no connection, run a send/receive, and be done with it. Or if there was a third party app that would do this for me. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:51 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well, 287677 might work as well depending on what the actual problem to be solved is, but apparently this isn't the week for properly phrased technical questions. -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions If I had that, I would have noticed that he wants a scheduled execution of the F5 key, and would have kept my mouth shut. Or perhaps suggested using the sendkeys thingy off the resource kit (win2000 i think). http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q259103 -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:34 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for
RE: OT - IIS redirect
Andrey, Don't know if this would work in your situation; but we had a similar problem that we solved with a meta tag The default document on www.server.com (listening on port 80) [contents of default document on www.server.com] META HTTP-EQUIV=Refresh CONTENT=0; URL=http://bar.server.com:8900; ) [end of contents] It is technically a client-side solution; but the majority of browsers around support meta tags). We use it for a on-line learning package that needs to listen on port 8900 (and not on the traditional 80). IIS and this package both listen on the same IP, just different ports. It is less confusing for our users... HTH Arron === Arron S. King Network Systems Administrator Ohio Dominican University [EMAIL PROTECTED] v: 614.251.4515 f: 614.252.2650 -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT - IIS redirect Hey all. I am trying to figure out if there is an easy way to set up a redirect to the same page but on a different port. for example when someone reaches the default website on port 80, I'd like it to get redirected to the default website on port 8383. I have tried to set up redirect properties in IIS Admin as follows: *;*;:8383 but when I go to http://server.com, I get redirected to http://server.com/:8383 - IIS sticks the slash in the middle and ruins everything. By the way, I have a similar redirect working fine on my OWA front-ends, only I am not redirecting to a different port. It is configured as *;*;/exchange and it gets me from the default website straight to the /exchange virtual directory. That one works great. Thanks for any ideas! Andrey _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
How? That is what I am looking for. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Not shutting down the PC, shutting down outlook. You can set Outlook to download mail when it opens and/or closes. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP The process doesn't necessarily have to shut the pc down. It's a laptop and it will hibernate. These are XP pro laptops. I know about the scheduled task. That is mainly what I am looking to do. I am just looking for a switch that performs a s/r when Outlook opens. Outlook already will then detect the connection state and dial. It will disconnect automatically when it's done downloading all the mail to the OST. You don't need to specify a time for how long it needs to download. I am just trying to find something that hits F9 when Outlook opens. I can get outlook to open I just need a command for 1 stinking key stroke. After that I know how to get Outlook to do the rest. If Outlook is open in the morning when the user wakes up that's fine. We can live with that. -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well... First of all, Chris isn't being a jerk. In addition, if you're using your client's resources -- ie, the phone and the computer -- for several hours at night, don't they deserve renumeration? Nevertheless... What you want is for Outlook to start, dial up the server, download mail, hang up, and shut off. Ok. I suppose that might be doable, sort of. Now, you don't mention what operating system your users are using. I have Win2KPro. In START/PROGRAMS/ACCESSORIES/SYSTEM TOOLS, there's a program called Scheduled Tasks. In that, you can schedule outlook to be launched, and if you look at the advanced properties of the task, on the SETTINGS tab you'll see a check box for Stop the Task if it runs for X hours and X minutes. That MIGHT shut outlook down. Honestly, I don't know. You can test it and try. Even if it does, there's no way for the task to know if all the mail has been downloaded, so you'll have to guess. Also, I doubt that this would be a graceful shutdown, so you run the risk of causing problems with your PSTs, which you must be using. As Daniel said, there are rarely technological solutions to behavioral problems. I think this is one of those times, and the real solution is to fix it very differently. A far better solution is a VPN, as has been mentioned, or even Outlook Web Access, which might be somewhat faster than POPing. Did you look at the technet article Chris kindly posted? Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do was post back if you knew something. You don't have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of anything. Maybe you don't know what a command switch is? I don't know. All I am looking for is something like Outlook /sendreceive
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Its' OST's. It doesn't begin to dial when it opens. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Just to be clear; you're using .OSTs or .PSTs? Also, what was wrong with Tools | Options | Mail Setup | Send Immediately When Connected? Aloha, -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 9:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions The process doesn't necessarily have to shut the pc down. It's a laptop and it will hibernate. These are XP pro laptops. I know about the scheduled task. That is mainly what I am looking to do. I am just looking for a switch that performs a s/r when Outlook opens. Outlook already will then detect the connection state and dial. It will disconnect automatically when it's done downloading all the mail to the OST. You don't need to specify a time for how long it needs to download. I am just trying to find something that hits F9 when Outlook opens. I can get outlook to open I just need a command for 1 stinking key stroke. After that I know how to get Outlook to do the rest. If Outlook is open in the morning when the user wakes up that's fine. We can live with that. -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well... First of all, Chris isn't being a jerk. In addition, if you're using your client's resources -- ie, the phone and the computer -- for several hours at night, don't they deserve renumeration? Nevertheless... What you want is for Outlook to start, dial up the server, download mail, hang up, and shut off. Ok. I suppose that might be doable, sort of. Now, you don't mention what operating system your users are using. I have Win2KPro. In START/PROGRAMS/ACCESSORIES/SYSTEM TOOLS, there's a program called Scheduled Tasks. In that, you can schedule outlook to be launched, and if you look at the advanced properties of the task, on the SETTINGS tab you'll see a check box for Stop the Task if it runs for X hours and X minutes. That MIGHT shut outlook down. Honestly, I don't know. You can test it and try. Even if it does, there's no way for the task to know if all the mail has been downloaded, so you'll have to guess. Also, I doubt that this would be a graceful shutdown, so you run the risk of causing problems with your PSTs, which you must be using. As Daniel said, there are rarely technological solutions to behavioral problems. I think this is one of those times, and the real solution is to fix it very differently. A far better solution is a VPN, as has been mentioned, or even Outlook Web Access, which might be somewhat faster than POPing. Did you look at the technet article Chris kindly posted? Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do was post back if you knew something. You don't have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Both. Home offices all over the place. We are a music distributor. These people are the ones that stock the shelves at your local Kmart or Walmart with music. They are in the store all day long stocking shelves so they don't have connectivity. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Who sends them all this stuff? Is it the home office, or is it a number of people all over the place? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Actually they don't check their email all day. They just download the days mail and read that till the next day. We are trying to implement wireless cards so that they can always check mail. Right now its too inconsistent for our reps. They stock CD's at stores and there is too much RF in many for it to work. Plus there isn't enough 3G coverage yet nationally. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Lets see 800 users 40 incoming lines. Assume each person checks his email 8 times a day and stays on for 20 minutes. Twenty people per line. There are 3600 minutes in a day. Eight accesses, times twenty people, times 20 minutes per call comes out to 3200. Wow I would like to see that phone bill. - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how I ought to be doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions with gusto and aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined to engage in silly banter or name calling. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Wow.Chris being a total jerk again. Come on tell me something new :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do was post back if you knew something. You don't have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of anything. Maybe you don't know what a command switch is? I don't know. All I am looking for is something like Outlook /sendreceive (obviously that isn't it or I wouldn't be posting this), so that I could put the switch in the scheduled task to run Outlook.exe, setup Outlook to dial if there is no connection, run a send/receive, and be done with it. Or if there was a third party app that would do this for me. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:51 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well, 287677 might work as well depending on what the actual problem to be solved is, but apparently this isn't the week for properly phrased technical questions. -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions If I had
RE: OT - IIS redirect
Thanks. IP would work. But I want something prettier :) -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: OT - IIS redirect Not a IIS guru but maybe put the IP address then the port address? - Original Message - From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:06 PM Subject: OT - IIS redirect Hey all. I am trying to figure out if there is an easy way to set up a redirect to the same page but on a different port. for example when someone reaches the default website on port 80, I'd like it to get redirected to the default website on port 8383. I have tried to set up redirect properties in IIS Admin as follows: *;*;:8383 but when I go to http://server.com, I get redirected to http://server.com/:8383 - IIS sticks the slash in the middle and ruins everything. By the way, I have a similar redirect working fine on my OWA front-ends, only I am not redirecting to a different port. It is configured as *;*;/exchange and it gets me from the default website straight to the /exchange virtual directory. That one works great. Thanks for any ideas! Andrey _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Limit their logon hours to the wee hours. They can dial-up all they want, they'll get punted outside those hours. You can stagger the hours and tell them what their window is. There is no such command switch as you seek. There is the option to s/r on startup and scheduling OL to startup on a schedule is easy using the Windows Task Scheduler (or any of a number of similar 3rd-party tools). As for Chris et al: after years on this list we (collectively) have found that a lot of people will post here wanting validation for their solution when oftimes if we know the actual problem we can come up with a better solution. We don't' want to waste time, yours or ours, making a half-assed solution work when a better alternative is available. Thus the request for more info. Now... How many users are we talking about for these forty lines? Do any of them have broadband at their location? Perhaps you may want to research the cost-effectiveness of paying their broadband bill (maybe half of it?) to ease the strain on the phone lines. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do was post back if you knew something. You don't have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of anything. Maybe you don't know what a command switch is? I don't know. All I am looking for is something like Outlook /sendreceive (obviously that isn't it or I wouldn't be posting this), so that I could put the switch in the scheduled task to run Outlook.exe, setup Outlook to dial if there is no connection, run a send/receive, and be done with it. Or if there was a third party app that would do this for me. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:51 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well, 287677 might work as well depending on what the actual problem to be solved is, but apparently this isn't the week for properly phrased technical questions. -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions If I had that, I would have noticed that he wants a scheduled execution of the F5 key, and would have kept my mouth shut. Or perhaps suggested using the sendkeys thingy off the resource kit (win2000 i think). http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q259103 -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:34 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Subject: Re: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I did, however, ask Santa for the thingy that will read email to me in my sleep. - Original Message - From: Tom Meunier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:31 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I think once the guy post the actual problem he's trying to solve, rather than his non-solution to it, it will become clear that either BLAT or MAPISEND will solve the problem. But who knows, since he won't give any details. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT - IIS redirect
Someone shared with me a little piece of knowledge: change the default .asp file (normally iisstart.asp) by replacing its code with this: % Response.Redirect( http://; Request.ServerVariables(SERVER_NAME) :8383 ) % (the line may wrap) -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT - IIS redirect Hey all. I am trying to figure out if there is an easy way to set up a redirect to the same page but on a different port. for example when someone reaches the default website on port 80, I'd like it to get redirected to the default website on port 8383. I have tried to set up redirect properties in IIS Admin as follows: *;*;:8383 but when I go to http://server.com, I get redirected to http://server.com/:8383 - IIS sticks the slash in the middle and ruins everything. By the way, I have a similar redirect working fine on my OWA front-ends, only I am not redirecting to a different port. It is configured as *;*;/exchange and it gets me from the default website straight to the /exchange virtual directory. That one works great. Thanks for any ideas! Andrey _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Damn, you've got a full-time job there. Does it pay well? -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:51 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Oh no my only purpose now is to sit on this list and point out every time you're an ass to everyone. Good thing you don't keep me waiting long -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how I ought to be doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions with gusto and aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined to engage in silly banter or name calling. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Wow.Chris being a total jerk again. Come on tell me something new :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do was post back if you knew something. You don't have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of anything. Maybe you don't know what a command switch is? I don't know. All I am looking for is something like Outlook /sendreceive (obviously that isn't it or I wouldn't be posting this), so that I could put the switch in the scheduled task to run Outlook.exe, setup Outlook to dial if there is no connection, run a send/receive, and be done with it. Or if there was a third party app that would do this for me. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:51 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well, 287677 might work as well depending on what the actual problem to be solved is, but apparently this isn't the week for properly phrased technical questions. -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions If I had that, I would have noticed that he wants a scheduled execution of the F5 key, and would have kept my mouth shut. Or perhaps suggested using the sendkeys thingy off the resource kit (win2000 i think). http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q259103 -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:34 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Subject: Re: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I did, however, ask Santa for the thingy that will read email to me in my sleep. - Original Message - From: Tom Meunier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:31 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I think once the guy post the actual problem he's trying to solve, rather than his non-solution to it, it will become clear that either BLAT or MAPISEND will solve the problem. But who knows, since he won't give any details. _
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
TOOLS/OPTIONS/MAIL SETUP. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP How? That is what I am looking for. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Not shutting down the PC, shutting down outlook. You can set Outlook to download mail when it opens and/or closes. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP The process doesn't necessarily have to shut the pc down. It's a laptop and it will hibernate. These are XP pro laptops. I know about the scheduled task. That is mainly what I am looking to do. I am just looking for a switch that performs a s/r when Outlook opens. Outlook already will then detect the connection state and dial. It will disconnect automatically when it's done downloading all the mail to the OST. You don't need to specify a time for how long it needs to download. I am just trying to find something that hits F9 when Outlook opens. I can get outlook to open I just need a command for 1 stinking key stroke. After that I know how to get Outlook to do the rest. If Outlook is open in the morning when the user wakes up that's fine. We can live with that. -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well... First of all, Chris isn't being a jerk. In addition, if you're using your client's resources -- ie, the phone and the computer -- for several hours at night, don't they deserve renumeration? Nevertheless... What you want is for Outlook to start, dial up the server, download mail, hang up, and shut off. Ok. I suppose that might be doable, sort of. Now, you don't mention what operating system your users are using. I have Win2KPro. In START/PROGRAMS/ACCESSORIES/SYSTEM TOOLS, there's a program called Scheduled Tasks. In that, you can schedule outlook to be launched, and if you look at the advanced properties of the task, on the SETTINGS tab you'll see a check box for Stop the Task if it runs for X hours and X minutes. That MIGHT shut outlook down. Honestly, I don't know. You can test it and try. Even if it does, there's no way for the task to know if all the mail has been downloaded, so you'll have to guess. Also, I doubt that this would be a graceful shutdown, so you run the risk of causing problems with your PSTs, which you must be using. As Daniel said, there are rarely technological solutions to behavioral problems. I think this is one of those times, and the real solution is to fix it very differently. A far better solution is a VPN, as has been mentioned, or even Outlook Web Access, which might be somewhat faster than POPing. Did you look at the technet article Chris kindly posted? Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
thinking outside the box What is this 2M file? Does it have to be 2M? Is it generic for all users, specific to a region, specific to one user? Specific to one store, group of stores, or what? There may be another way to do this. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Both. Home offices all over the place. We are a music distributor. These people are the ones that stock the shelves at your local Kmart or Walmart with music. They are in the store all day long stocking shelves so they don't have connectivity. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Who sends them all this stuff? Is it the home office, or is it a number of people all over the place? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Actually they don't check their email all day. They just download the days mail and read that till the next day. We are trying to implement wireless cards so that they can always check mail. Right now its too inconsistent for our reps. They stock CD's at stores and there is too much RF in many for it to work. Plus there isn't enough 3G coverage yet nationally. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Lets see 800 users 40 incoming lines. Assume each person checks his email 8 times a day and stays on for 20 minutes. Twenty people per line. There are 3600 minutes in a day. Eight accesses, times twenty people, times 20 minutes per call comes out to 3200. Wow I would like to see that phone bill. - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how I ought to be doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions with gusto and aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined to engage in silly banter or name calling. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Wow.Chris being a total jerk again. Come on tell me something new :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do was post back if you knew something. You don't have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of anything. Maybe you don't know what a command switch is? I don't know. All I am looking for is something like Outlook /sendreceive (obviously that isn't it or I wouldn't be posting this), so that I could put the switch in the scheduled task to run Outlook.exe, setup Outlook to dial if there is no connection, run a send/receive, and be done with it. Or if there was a third party app that would do this for me. -Original Message- From: Chris
RE: DL Export question
How are you adding the SMTP field? What, exactly, are you typing the CSV header file? -Original Message- From: Hatley, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: DL Export question Actually its not just the SMTP field that makes it stop on that DL, it worked when I did Directory and alias name only, but when I try to add other fields it fails...always on that one DL. I don't see anything different about this one than others. Where is the log file? I looked at the eventvwr on the server but there was nothing there. -Original Message- From: Hatley, Ken Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: DL Export question I am trying to export using a csv file to gather DL information...it works fine until I add the SMTP field, it actually works until it goes through about 100 DLs but always stops on one particular DL. Any idea of what can make it stop, or how to identify what the problem is? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
I know someone who does that same job for TimeWarner (AOL) and all of their magazines. They dial on and download their email during the day. The company will pop for high speed internet if they can get it. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Both. Home offices all over the place. We are a music distributor. These people are the ones that stock the shelves at your local Kmart or Walmart with music. They are in the store all day long stocking shelves so they don't have connectivity. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Who sends them all this stuff? Is it the home office, or is it a number of people all over the place? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Actually they don't check their email all day. They just download the days mail and read that till the next day. We are trying to implement wireless cards so that they can always check mail. Right now its too inconsistent for our reps. They stock CD's at stores and there is too much RF in many for it to work. Plus there isn't enough 3G coverage yet nationally. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Lets see 800 users 40 incoming lines. Assume each person checks his email 8 times a day and stays on for 20 minutes. Twenty people per line. There are 3600 minutes in a day. Eight accesses, times twenty people, times 20 minutes per call comes out to 3200. Wow I would like to see that phone bill. - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how I ought to be doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions with gusto and aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined to engage in silly banter or name calling. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Wow.Chris being a total jerk again. Come on tell me something new :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do was post back if you knew something. You don't have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of anything. Maybe you don't know what a command switch is? I don't know. All I am looking for is something like Outlook /sendreceive (obviously that isn't it or I wouldn't be posting this), so that I could put the switch in the scheduled task to run Outlook.exe, setup Outlook to dial if there is no connection, run a send/receive, and be done with it. Or if there was a third party app that would do this for me. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL
Re: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
I still enjoy my turntable. Some people when they come over are in awe that they still exist. It's even manual. Although finding belts for it is getting tough. - Original Message - From: Gonzalez, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:38 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Both. Home offices all over the place. We are a music distributor. These people are the ones that stock the shelves at your local Kmart or Walmart with music. They are in the store all day long stocking shelves so they don't have connectivity. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Who sends them all this stuff? Is it the home office, or is it a number of people all over the place? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Actually they don't check their email all day. They just download the days mail and read that till the next day. We are trying to implement wireless cards so that they can always check mail. Right now its too inconsistent for our reps. They stock CD's at stores and there is too much RF in many for it to work. Plus there isn't enough 3G coverage yet nationally. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Lets see 800 users 40 incoming lines. Assume each person checks his email 8 times a day and stays on for 20 minutes. Twenty people per line. There are 3600 minutes in a day. Eight accesses, times twenty people, times 20 minutes per call comes out to 3200. Wow I would like to see that phone bill. - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how I ought to be doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions with gusto and aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined to engage in silly banter or name calling. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Wow.Chris being a total jerk again. Come on tell me something new :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do was post back if you knew something. You don't have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of anything. Maybe you don't know what a command switch is? I don't know. All I am looking for is something like Outlook /sendreceive (obviously that isn't it or I wouldn't be posting this), so that I could put the switch in the scheduled task to run Outlook.exe, setup Outlook to dial if there is no connection, run a send/receive, and be done with it. Or if there was a third party app that would do this for me. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:51
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Well its mainly pictures of what displays are going to be in the store. Some of these files used to be Gig sized but our advertising department has shrunk them down quite a bit. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:41 PM To: Exchange Discussions thinking outside the box What is this 2M file? Does it have to be 2M? Is it generic for all users, specific to a region, specific to one user? Specific to one store, group of stores, or what? There may be another way to do this. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Both. Home offices all over the place. We are a music distributor. These people are the ones that stock the shelves at your local Kmart or Walmart with music. They are in the store all day long stocking shelves so they don't have connectivity. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Who sends them all this stuff? Is it the home office, or is it a number of people all over the place? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Actually they don't check their email all day. They just download the days mail and read that till the next day. We are trying to implement wireless cards so that they can always check mail. Right now its too inconsistent for our reps. They stock CD's at stores and there is too much RF in many for it to work. Plus there isn't enough 3G coverage yet nationally. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Lets see 800 users 40 incoming lines. Assume each person checks his email 8 times a day and stays on for 20 minutes. Twenty people per line. There are 3600 minutes in a day. Eight accesses, times twenty people, times 20 minutes per call comes out to 3200. Wow I would like to see that phone bill. - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how I ought to be doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions with gusto and aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined to engage in silly banter or name calling. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Wow.Chris being a total jerk again. Come on tell me something new :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do was post back if you knew something. You don't have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of anything. Maybe you don't know what a command switch is? I don't know. All I am looking for is something like Outlook /sendreceive (obviously that
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
For some reason for me that function doesn't do anything. It wont dial automatically. -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:40 PM To: Exchange Discussions TOOLS/OPTIONS/MAIL SETUP. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP How? That is what I am looking for. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Not shutting down the PC, shutting down outlook. You can set Outlook to download mail when it opens and/or closes. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP The process doesn't necessarily have to shut the pc down. It's a laptop and it will hibernate. These are XP pro laptops. I know about the scheduled task. That is mainly what I am looking to do. I am just looking for a switch that performs a s/r when Outlook opens. Outlook already will then detect the connection state and dial. It will disconnect automatically when it's done downloading all the mail to the OST. You don't need to specify a time for how long it needs to download. I am just trying to find something that hits F9 when Outlook opens. I can get outlook to open I just need a command for 1 stinking key stroke. After that I know how to get Outlook to do the rest. If Outlook is open in the morning when the user wakes up that's fine. We can live with that. -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well... First of all, Chris isn't being a jerk. In addition, if you're using your client's resources -- ie, the phone and the computer -- for several hours at night, don't they deserve renumeration? Nevertheless... What you want is for Outlook to start, dial up the server, download mail, hang up, and shut off. Ok. I suppose that might be doable, sort of. Now, you don't mention what operating system your users are using. I have Win2KPro. In START/PROGRAMS/ACCESSORIES/SYSTEM TOOLS, there's a program called Scheduled Tasks. In that, you can schedule outlook to be launched, and if you look at the advanced properties of the task, on the SETTINGS tab you'll see a check box for Stop the Task if it runs for X hours and X minutes. That MIGHT shut outlook down. Honestly, I don't know. You can test it and try. Even if it does, there's no way for the task to know if all the mail has been downloaded, so you'll have to guess. Also, I doubt that this would be a graceful shutdown, so you run the risk of causing problems with your PSTs, which you must be using. As Daniel said, there are rarely technological solutions to behavioral problems. I think this is one of those times, and the real solution is to fix it very differently. A far better solution is a VPN, as has been mentioned, or even Outlook Web Access, which might be somewhat faster than POPing. Did you look at the technet article Chris kindly posted? Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Ours wont. They wont even pay for an admins cable modem for support. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions I know someone who does that same job for TimeWarner (AOL) and all of their magazines. They dial on and download their email during the day. The company will pop for high speed internet if they can get it. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Both. Home offices all over the place. We are a music distributor. These people are the ones that stock the shelves at your local Kmart or Walmart with music. They are in the store all day long stocking shelves so they don't have connectivity. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Who sends them all this stuff? Is it the home office, or is it a number of people all over the place? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Actually they don't check their email all day. They just download the days mail and read that till the next day. We are trying to implement wireless cards so that they can always check mail. Right now its too inconsistent for our reps. They stock CD's at stores and there is too much RF in many for it to work. Plus there isn't enough 3G coverage yet nationally. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Lets see 800 users 40 incoming lines. Assume each person checks his email 8 times a day and stays on for 20 minutes. Twenty people per line. There are 3600 minutes in a day. Eight accesses, times twenty people, times 20 minutes per call comes out to 3200. Wow I would like to see that phone bill. - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how I ought to be doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions with gusto and aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined to engage in silly banter or name calling. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Wow.Chris being a total jerk again. Come on tell me something new :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do was post back if you knew something. You don't have to be rude about it. Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of anything. Maybe you don't know what a command switch is? I don't know. All I am looking for is something like Outlook /sendreceive (obviously that isn't it or I wouldn't be posting this), so that I could put the switch in the scheduled task to run Outlook.exe, setup
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Do you have Outlook configured to connect via LAN or via dialup? (Under the Exchange Server settings, Connection tab) -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions For some reason for me that function doesn't do anything. It wont dial automatically. -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:40 PM To: Exchange Discussions TOOLS/OPTIONS/MAIL SETUP. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP How? That is what I am looking for. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Not shutting down the PC, shutting down outlook. You can set Outlook to download mail when it opens and/or closes. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP The process doesn't necessarily have to shut the pc down. It's a laptop and it will hibernate. These are XP pro laptops. I know about the scheduled task. That is mainly what I am looking to do. I am just looking for a switch that performs a s/r when Outlook opens. Outlook already will then detect the connection state and dial. It will disconnect automatically when it's done downloading all the mail to the OST. You don't need to specify a time for how long it needs to download. I am just trying to find something that hits F9 when Outlook opens. I can get outlook to open I just need a command for 1 stinking key stroke. After that I know how to get Outlook to do the rest. If Outlook is open in the morning when the user wakes up that's fine. We can live with that. -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well... First of all, Chris isn't being a jerk. In addition, if you're using your client's resources -- ie, the phone and the computer -- for several hours at night, don't they deserve renumeration? Nevertheless... What you want is for Outlook to start, dial up the server, download mail, hang up, and shut off. Ok. I suppose that might be doable, sort of. Now, you don't mention what operating system your users are using. I have Win2KPro. In START/PROGRAMS/ACCESSORIES/SYSTEM TOOLS, there's a program called Scheduled Tasks. In that, you can schedule outlook to be launched, and if you look at the advanced properties of the task, on the SETTINGS tab you'll see a check box for Stop the Task if it runs for X hours and X minutes. That MIGHT shut outlook down. Honestly, I don't know. You can test it and try. Even if it does, there's no way for the task to know if all the mail has been downloaded, so you'll have to guess. Also, I doubt that this would be a graceful shutdown, so you run the risk of causing problems with your PSTs, which you must be using. As Daniel said, there are rarely technological solutions to behavioral problems. I think this is one of those times, and the real solution is to fix it very differently. A far better solution is a VPN, as has been mentioned, or even Outlook Web Access, which might be somewhat faster than POPing. Did you look at the technet article Chris kindly posted? Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem.
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Are they paying the phone bills for these people to dial-in? -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Ours wont. They wont even pay for an admins cable modem for support. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions I know someone who does that same job for TimeWarner (AOL) and all of their magazines. They dial on and download their email during the day. The company will pop for high speed internet if they can get it. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Both. Home offices all over the place. We are a music distributor. These people are the ones that stock the shelves at your local Kmart or Walmart with music. They are in the store all day long stocking shelves so they don't have connectivity. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Who sends them all this stuff? Is it the home office, or is it a number of people all over the place? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Actually they don't check their email all day. They just download the days mail and read that till the next day. We are trying to implement wireless cards so that they can always check mail. Right now its too inconsistent for our reps. They stock CD's at stores and there is too much RF in many for it to work. Plus there isn't enough 3G coverage yet nationally. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Lets see 800 users 40 incoming lines. Assume each person checks his email 8 times a day and stays on for 20 minutes. Twenty people per line. There are 3600 minutes in a day. Eight accesses, times twenty people, times 20 minutes per call comes out to 3200. Wow I would like to see that phone bill. - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how I ought to be doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions with gusto and aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined to engage in silly banter or name calling. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Wow.Chris being a total jerk again. Come on tell me something new :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Via Dialup. Its supposed to connection state when you do a s/r. if there isn't a connection it dials our RAS box. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:50 PM To: Exchange Discussions Do you have Outlook configured to connect via LAN or via dialup? (Under the Exchange Server settings, Connection tab) -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions For some reason for me that function doesn't do anything. It wont dial automatically. -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:40 PM To: Exchange Discussions TOOLS/OPTIONS/MAIL SETUP. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP How? That is what I am looking for. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Not shutting down the PC, shutting down outlook. You can set Outlook to download mail when it opens and/or closes. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP The process doesn't necessarily have to shut the pc down. It's a laptop and it will hibernate. These are XP pro laptops. I know about the scheduled task. That is mainly what I am looking to do. I am just looking for a switch that performs a s/r when Outlook opens. Outlook already will then detect the connection state and dial. It will disconnect automatically when it's done downloading all the mail to the OST. You don't need to specify a time for how long it needs to download. I am just trying to find something that hits F9 when Outlook opens. I can get outlook to open I just need a command for 1 stinking key stroke. After that I know how to get Outlook to do the rest. If Outlook is open in the morning when the user wakes up that's fine. We can live with that. -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well... First of all, Chris isn't being a jerk. In addition, if you're using your client's resources -- ie, the phone and the computer -- for several hours at night, don't they deserve renumeration? Nevertheless... What you want is for Outlook to start, dial up the server, download mail, hang up, and shut off. Ok. I suppose that might be doable, sort of. Now, you don't mention what operating system your users are using. I have Win2KPro. In START/PROGRAMS/ACCESSORIES/SYSTEM TOOLS, there's a program called Scheduled Tasks. In that, you can schedule outlook to be launched, and if you look at the advanced properties of the task, on the SETTINGS tab you'll see a check box for Stop the Task if it runs for X hours and X minutes. That MIGHT shut outlook down. Honestly, I don't know. You can test it and try. Even if it does, there's no way for the task to know if all the mail has been downloaded, so you'll have to guess. Also, I doubt that this would be a graceful shutdown, so you run the risk of causing problems with your PSTs, which you must be using. As Daniel said, there are rarely technological solutions to behavioral problems. I think this is one of those times, and the real solution is to fix it very differently. A far better solution is a VPN, as has been mentioned, or even Outlook Web Access, which might be somewhat faster than POPing. Did you look at the technet article Chris kindly posted? Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for
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E-mail Addresses, again that is not the only field that makes it fail, it appears there is a bad DN somewhere, but don't know exactly how to identify it. I did find some logging in the eventvwr on my local machine...I am still doing some testing. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: DL Export question How are you adding the SMTP field? What, exactly, are you typing the CSV header file? -Original Message- From: Hatley, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: DL Export question Actually its not just the SMTP field that makes it stop on that DL, it worked when I did Directory and alias name only, but when I try to add other fields it fails...always on that one DL. I don't see anything different about this one than others. Where is the log file? I looked at the eventvwr on the server but there was nothing there. -Original Message- From: Hatley, Ken Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: DL Export question I am trying to export using a csv file to gather DL information...it works fine until I add the SMTP field, it actually works until it goes through about 100 DLs but always stops on one particular DL. Any idea of what can make it stop, or how to identify what the problem is? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
They should be in .jpg format and no larger than 20K. As an example: the picture of my truck at http://web.nova1.net/danielc/bustinout.htm is only 26K and it still looks good. There are utilities out there that can do batch compression of a whole folder of such pictures. Note: zipping .jpg files is not only useless but can make them larger. Why not ftp? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:46 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Well its mainly pictures of what displays are going to be in the store. Some of these files used to be Gig sized but our advertising department has shrunk them down quite a bit. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:41 PM To: Exchange Discussions thinking outside the box What is this 2M file? Does it have to be 2M? Is it generic for all users, specific to a region, specific to one user? Specific to one store, group of stores, or what? There may be another way to do this. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Both. Home offices all over the place. We are a music distributor. These people are the ones that stock the shelves at your local Kmart or Walmart with music. They are in the store all day long stocking shelves so they don't have connectivity. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Who sends them all this stuff? Is it the home office, or is it a number of people all over the place? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Actually they don't check their email all day. They just download the days mail and read that till the next day. We are trying to implement wireless cards so that they can always check mail. Right now its too inconsistent for our reps. They stock CD's at stores and there is too much RF in many for it to work. Plus there isn't enough 3G coverage yet nationally. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Lets see 800 users 40 incoming lines. Assume each person checks his email 8 times a day and stays on for 20 minutes. Twenty people per line. There are 3600 minutes in a day. Eight accesses, times twenty people, times 20 minutes per call comes out to 3200. Wow I would like to see that phone bill. - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how I ought to be doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions with gusto and aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined to engage in silly banter or name calling. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Wow.Chris being a total jerk again. Come on tell me something new :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Why not a web-page? Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:46 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Well its mainly pictures of what displays are going to be in the store. Some of these files used to be Gig sized but our advertising department has shrunk them down quite a bit. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:41 PM To: Exchange Discussions thinking outside the box What is this 2M file? Does it have to be 2M? Is it generic for all users, specific to a region, specific to one user? Specific to one store, group of stores, or what? There may be another way to do this. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Both. Home offices all over the place. We are a music distributor. These people are the ones that stock the shelves at your local Kmart or Walmart with music. They are in the store all day long stocking shelves so they don't have connectivity. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Who sends them all this stuff? Is it the home office, or is it a number of people all over the place? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Actually they don't check their email all day. They just download the days mail and read that till the next day. We are trying to implement wireless cards so that they can always check mail. Right now its too inconsistent for our reps. They stock CD's at stores and there is too much RF in many for it to work. Plus there isn't enough 3G coverage yet nationally. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Lets see 800 users 40 incoming lines. Assume each person checks his email 8 times a day and stays on for 20 minutes. Twenty people per line. There are 3600 minutes in a day. Eight accesses, times twenty people, times 20 minutes per call comes out to 3200. Wow I would like to see that phone bill. - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how I ought to be doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions with gusto and aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined to engage in silly banter or name calling. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Wow.Chris being a total jerk again. Come on tell me something new :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
What does it say on the CONNECTION tab of the properties of the account? Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP For some reason for me that function doesn't do anything. It wont dial automatically. -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:40 PM To: Exchange Discussions TOOLS/OPTIONS/MAIL SETUP. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP How? That is what I am looking for. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Not shutting down the PC, shutting down outlook. You can set Outlook to download mail when it opens and/or closes. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP The process doesn't necessarily have to shut the pc down. It's a laptop and it will hibernate. These are XP pro laptops. I know about the scheduled task. That is mainly what I am looking to do. I am just looking for a switch that performs a s/r when Outlook opens. Outlook already will then detect the connection state and dial. It will disconnect automatically when it's done downloading all the mail to the OST. You don't need to specify a time for how long it needs to download. I am just trying to find something that hits F9 when Outlook opens. I can get outlook to open I just need a command for 1 stinking key stroke. After that I know how to get Outlook to do the rest. If Outlook is open in the morning when the user wakes up that's fine. We can live with that. -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well... First of all, Chris isn't being a jerk. In addition, if you're using your client's resources -- ie, the phone and the computer -- for several hours at night, don't they deserve renumeration? Nevertheless... What you want is for Outlook to start, dial up the server, download mail, hang up, and shut off. Ok. I suppose that might be doable, sort of. Now, you don't mention what operating system your users are using. I have Win2KPro. In START/PROGRAMS/ACCESSORIES/SYSTEM TOOLS, there's a program called Scheduled Tasks. In that, you can schedule outlook to be launched, and if you look at the advanced properties of the task, on the SETTINGS tab you'll see a check box for Stop the Task if it runs for X hours and X minutes. That MIGHT shut outlook down. Honestly, I don't know. You can test it and try. Even if it does, there's no way for the task to know if all the mail has been downloaded, so you'll have to guess. Also, I doubt that this would be a graceful shutdown, so you run the risk of causing problems with your PSTs, which you must be using. As Daniel said, there are rarely technological solutions to behavioral problems. I think this is one of those times, and the real solution is to fix it very differently. A far better solution is a VPN, as has been mentioned, or even Outlook Web Access, which might be somewhat faster than POPing. Did you look at the technet article Chris kindly posted? Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures
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What does the receiver do with these images? Are they sent to a printer, or are they just FYI, or what? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:46 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Well its mainly pictures of what displays are going to be in the store. Some of these files used to be Gig sized but our advertising department has shrunk them down quite a bit. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:41 PM To: Exchange Discussions thinking outside the box What is this 2M file? Does it have to be 2M? Is it generic for all users, specific to a region, specific to one user? Specific to one store, group of stores, or what? There may be another way to do this. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Both. Home offices all over the place. We are a music distributor. These people are the ones that stock the shelves at your local Kmart or Walmart with music. They are in the store all day long stocking shelves so they don't have connectivity. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Who sends them all this stuff? Is it the home office, or is it a number of people all over the place? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Actually they don't check their email all day. They just download the days mail and read that till the next day. We are trying to implement wireless cards so that they can always check mail. Right now its too inconsistent for our reps. They stock CD's at stores and there is too much RF in many for it to work. Plus there isn't enough 3G coverage yet nationally. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Lets see 800 users 40 incoming lines. Assume each person checks his email 8 times a day and stays on for 20 minutes. Twenty people per line. There are 3600 minutes in a day. Eight accesses, times twenty people, times 20 minutes per call comes out to 3200. Wow I would like to see that phone bill. - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how I ought to be doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions with gusto and aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined to engage in silly banter or name calling. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Wow.Chris being a total jerk again. Come on tell me something new :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far as the question goes here is a refresher: Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook? Or is there any third party software that would do this. Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is different. All you had to do
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Slippery when wet... -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP What does it say on the CONNECTION tab of the properties of the account? Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP For some reason for me that function doesn't do anything. It wont dial automatically. -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:40 PM To: Exchange Discussions TOOLS/OPTIONS/MAIL SETUP. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP How? That is what I am looking for. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Not shutting down the PC, shutting down outlook. You can set Outlook to download mail when it opens and/or closes. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP The process doesn't necessarily have to shut the pc down. It's a laptop and it will hibernate. These are XP pro laptops. I know about the scheduled task. That is mainly what I am looking to do. I am just looking for a switch that performs a s/r when Outlook opens. Outlook already will then detect the connection state and dial. It will disconnect automatically when it's done downloading all the mail to the OST. You don't need to specify a time for how long it needs to download. I am just trying to find something that hits F9 when Outlook opens. I can get outlook to open I just need a command for 1 stinking key stroke. After that I know how to get Outlook to do the rest. If Outlook is open in the morning when the user wakes up that's fine. We can live with that. -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well... First of all, Chris isn't being a jerk. In addition, if you're using your client's resources -- ie, the phone and the computer -- for several hours at night, don't they deserve renumeration? Nevertheless... What you want is for Outlook to start, dial up the server, download mail, hang up, and shut off. Ok. I suppose that might be doable, sort of. Now, you don't mention what operating system your users are using. I have Win2KPro. In START/PROGRAMS/ACCESSORIES/SYSTEM TOOLS, there's a program called Scheduled Tasks. In that, you can schedule outlook to be launched, and if you look at the advanced properties of the task, on the SETTINGS tab you'll see a check box for Stop the Task if it runs for X hours and X minutes. That MIGHT shut outlook down. Honestly, I don't know. You can test it and try. Even if it does, there's no way for the task to know if all the mail has been downloaded, so you'll have to guess. Also, I doubt that this would be a graceful shutdown, so you run the risk of causing problems with your PSTs, which you must be using. As Daniel said, there are rarely technological solutions to behavioral problems. I think this is one of those times, and the real solution is to fix it very differently. A far better solution is a VPN, as has been mentioned, or even Outlook Web Access, which might be somewhat faster than POPing. Did you look at the technet article Chris kindly posted? Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on
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Nice truck No idea. I wish they would. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions They should be in .jpg format and no larger than 20K. As an example: the picture of my truck at http://web.nova1.net/danielc/bustinout.htm is only 26K and it still looks good. There are utilities out there that can do batch compression of a whole folder of such pictures. Note: zipping .jpg files is not only useless but can make them larger. Why not ftp? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:46 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Well its mainly pictures of what displays are going to be in the store. Some of these files used to be Gig sized but our advertising department has shrunk them down quite a bit. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:41 PM To: Exchange Discussions thinking outside the box What is this 2M file? Does it have to be 2M? Is it generic for all users, specific to a region, specific to one user? Specific to one store, group of stores, or what? There may be another way to do this. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Both. Home offices all over the place. We are a music distributor. These people are the ones that stock the shelves at your local Kmart or Walmart with music. They are in the store all day long stocking shelves so they don't have connectivity. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Who sends them all this stuff? Is it the home office, or is it a number of people all over the place? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Actually they don't check their email all day. They just download the days mail and read that till the next day. We are trying to implement wireless cards so that they can always check mail. Right now its too inconsistent for our reps. They stock CD's at stores and there is too much RF in many for it to work. Plus there isn't enough 3G coverage yet nationally. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Lets see 800 users 40 incoming lines. Assume each person checks his email 8 times a day and stays on for 20 minutes. Twenty people per line. There are 3600 minutes in a day. Eight accesses, times twenty people, times 20 minutes per call comes out to 3200. Wow I would like to see that phone bill. - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how I ought to be doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions with gusto and aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined to engage in silly banter or name calling. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Wow.Chris being a total jerk again. Come on tell me something new :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit
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Yea the company pays 17.95 per month for access to this 800 number. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:50 PM To: Exchange Discussions Are they paying the phone bills for these people to dial-in? -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Ours wont. They wont even pay for an admins cable modem for support. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions I know someone who does that same job for TimeWarner (AOL) and all of their magazines. They dial on and download their email during the day. The company will pop for high speed internet if they can get it. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Both. Home offices all over the place. We are a music distributor. These people are the ones that stock the shelves at your local Kmart or Walmart with music. They are in the store all day long stocking shelves so they don't have connectivity. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Who sends them all this stuff? Is it the home office, or is it a number of people all over the place? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Actually they don't check their email all day. They just download the days mail and read that till the next day. We are trying to implement wireless cards so that they can always check mail. Right now its too inconsistent for our reps. They stock CD's at stores and there is too much RF in many for it to work. Plus there isn't enough 3G coverage yet nationally. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Lets see 800 users 40 incoming lines. Assume each person checks his email 8 times a day and stays on for 20 minutes. Twenty people per line. There are 3600 minutes in a day. Eight accesses, times twenty people, times 20 minutes per call comes out to 3200. Wow I would like to see that phone bill. - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how I ought to be doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions with gusto and aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined to engage in silly banter or name calling. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Wow.Chris being a total jerk again. Come on tell me something new :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in the field the next day. As far
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Honestly Martin I have no idea. I think they print them off and show them to the store manager. I don't really know everything those people do. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions What does the receiver do with these images? Are they sent to a printer, or are they just FYI, or what? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:46 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Well its mainly pictures of what displays are going to be in the store. Some of these files used to be Gig sized but our advertising department has shrunk them down quite a bit. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:41 PM To: Exchange Discussions thinking outside the box What is this 2M file? Does it have to be 2M? Is it generic for all users, specific to a region, specific to one user? Specific to one store, group of stores, or what? There may be another way to do this. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Both. Home offices all over the place. We are a music distributor. These people are the ones that stock the shelves at your local Kmart or Walmart with music. They are in the store all day long stocking shelves so they don't have connectivity. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Who sends them all this stuff? Is it the home office, or is it a number of people all over the place? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Actually they don't check their email all day. They just download the days mail and read that till the next day. We are trying to implement wireless cards so that they can always check mail. Right now its too inconsistent for our reps. They stock CD's at stores and there is too much RF in many for it to work. Plus there isn't enough 3G coverage yet nationally. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Lets see 800 users 40 incoming lines. Assume each person checks his email 8 times a day and stays on for 20 minutes. Twenty people per line. There are 3600 minutes in a day. Eight accesses, times twenty people, times 20 minutes per call comes out to 3200. Wow I would like to see that phone bill. - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how I ought to be doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions with gusto and aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined to engage in silly banter or name calling. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Wow.Chris being a total jerk again. Come on tell me something new :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical problem. Isn't that what technology does? I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day. When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for all the mail to download. The company doesn't want them billing for the time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download. They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while they are in
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Use phone line. Then the connection is chosen below. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions What does it say on the CONNECTION tab of the properties of the account? Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP For some reason for me that function doesn't do anything. It wont dial automatically. -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:40 PM To: Exchange Discussions TOOLS/OPTIONS/MAIL SETUP. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP How? That is what I am looking for. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Not shutting down the PC, shutting down outlook. You can set Outlook to download mail when it opens and/or closes. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP The process doesn't necessarily have to shut the pc down. It's a laptop and it will hibernate. These are XP pro laptops. I know about the scheduled task. That is mainly what I am looking to do. I am just looking for a switch that performs a s/r when Outlook opens. Outlook already will then detect the connection state and dial. It will disconnect automatically when it's done downloading all the mail to the OST. You don't need to specify a time for how long it needs to download. I am just trying to find something that hits F9 when Outlook opens. I can get outlook to open I just need a command for 1 stinking key stroke. After that I know how to get Outlook to do the rest. If Outlook is open in the morning when the user wakes up that's fine. We can live with that. -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well... First of all, Chris isn't being a jerk. In addition, if you're using your client's resources -- ie, the phone and the computer -- for several hours at night, don't they deserve renumeration? Nevertheless... What you want is for Outlook to start, dial up the server, download mail, hang up, and shut off. Ok. I suppose that might be doable, sort of. Now, you don't mention what operating system your users are using. I have Win2KPro. In START/PROGRAMS/ACCESSORIES/SYSTEM TOOLS, there's a program called Scheduled Tasks. In that, you can schedule outlook to be launched, and if you look at the advanced properties of the task, on the SETTINGS tab you'll see a check box for Stop the Task if it runs for X hours and X minutes. That MIGHT shut outlook down. Honestly, I don't know. You can test it and try. Even if it does, there's no way for the task to know if all the mail has been downloaded, so you'll have to guess. Also, I doubt that this would be a graceful shutdown, so you run the risk of causing problems with your PSTs, which you must be using. As Daniel said, there are rarely technological solutions to behavioral problems. I think this is one of those times, and the real solution is to fix it very differently. A far better solution is a VPN, as has been mentioned, or even Outlook Web Access, which might be somewhat faster than POPing. Did you look at the technet article Chris kindly posted? Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to
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lmao -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Slippery when wet... -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP What does it say on the CONNECTION tab of the properties of the account? Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP For some reason for me that function doesn't do anything. It wont dial automatically. -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:40 PM To: Exchange Discussions TOOLS/OPTIONS/MAIL SETUP. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP How? That is what I am looking for. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Not shutting down the PC, shutting down outlook. You can set Outlook to download mail when it opens and/or closes. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP The process doesn't necessarily have to shut the pc down. It's a laptop and it will hibernate. These are XP pro laptops. I know about the scheduled task. That is mainly what I am looking to do. I am just looking for a switch that performs a s/r when Outlook opens. Outlook already will then detect the connection state and dial. It will disconnect automatically when it's done downloading all the mail to the OST. You don't need to specify a time for how long it needs to download. I am just trying to find something that hits F9 when Outlook opens. I can get outlook to open I just need a command for 1 stinking key stroke. After that I know how to get Outlook to do the rest. If Outlook is open in the morning when the user wakes up that's fine. We can live with that. -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Well... First of all, Chris isn't being a jerk. In addition, if you're using your client's resources -- ie, the phone and the computer -- for several hours at night, don't they deserve renumeration? Nevertheless... What you want is for Outlook to start, dial up the server, download mail, hang up, and shut off. Ok. I suppose that might be doable, sort of. Now, you don't mention what operating system your users are using. I have Win2KPro. In START/PROGRAMS/ACCESSORIES/SYSTEM TOOLS, there's a program called Scheduled Tasks. In that, you can schedule outlook to be launched, and if you look at the advanced properties of the task, on the SETTINGS tab you'll see a check box for Stop the Task if it runs for X hours and X minutes. That MIGHT shut outlook down. Honestly, I don't know. You can test it and try. Even if it does, there's no way for the task to know if all the mail has been downloaded, so you'll have to guess. Also, I doubt that this would be a graceful shutdown, so you run the risk of causing problems with your PSTs, which you must be using. As Daniel said, there are rarely technological solutions to behavioral problems. I think this is one of those times, and the real solution is to fix it very differently. A far better solution is a VPN, as has been mentioned, or even Outlook Web Access, which might be somewhat faster than POPing. Did you look at the technet article Chris kindly posted? Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I
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I guess the point is that if they are sending these massive images and all they are doing is printing a comp on an ink jet to show the store manager, the problem isn't an email or bandwidth issue at all, but rather a user issue with the imaging folk. They need to be taught these people don't need these massive files. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Honestly Martin I have no idea. I think they print them off and show them to the store manager. I don't really know everything those people do. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions What does the receiver do with these images? Are they sent to a printer, or are they just FYI, or what? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:46 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Well its mainly pictures of what displays are going to be in the store. Some of these files used to be Gig sized but our advertising department has shrunk them down quite a bit. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:41 PM To: Exchange Discussions thinking outside the box What is this 2M file? Does it have to be 2M? Is it generic for all users, specific to a region, specific to one user? Specific to one store, group of stores, or what? There may be another way to do this. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Both. Home offices all over the place. We are a music distributor. These people are the ones that stock the shelves at your local Kmart or Walmart with music. They are in the store all day long stocking shelves so they don't have connectivity. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Who sends them all this stuff? Is it the home office, or is it a number of people all over the place? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Actually they don't check their email all day. They just download the days mail and read that till the next day. We are trying to implement wireless cards so that they can always check mail. Right now its too inconsistent for our reps. They stock CD's at stores and there is too much RF in many for it to work. Plus there isn't enough 3G coverage yet nationally. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Lets see 800 users 40 incoming lines. Assume each person checks his email 8 times a day and stays on for 20 minutes. Twenty people per line. There are 3600 minutes in a day. Eight accesses, times twenty people, times 20 minutes per call comes out to 3200. Wow I would like to see that phone bill. - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how I ought to be doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions with gusto and aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined to engage in silly banter or name calling. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Wow.Chris being a total jerk again. Come on tell me something new :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a technical solution for a
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
That and that there is an alternative. Two that I can think of: 1. ftp 2. website Both would be accessible via the internet, thus no tying up the dial-up lines. The field reps would have to provide their own internet connectivity (which is really cheap these days). -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I guess the point is that if they are sending these massive images and all they are doing is printing a comp on an ink jet to show the store manager, the problem isn't an email or bandwidth issue at all, but rather a user issue with the imaging folk. They need to be taught these people don't need these massive files. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Honestly Martin I have no idea. I think they print them off and show them to the store manager. I don't really know everything those people do. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions What does the receiver do with these images? Are they sent to a printer, or are they just FYI, or what? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:46 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Well its mainly pictures of what displays are going to be in the store. Some of these files used to be Gig sized but our advertising department has shrunk them down quite a bit. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:41 PM To: Exchange Discussions thinking outside the box What is this 2M file? Does it have to be 2M? Is it generic for all users, specific to a region, specific to one user? Specific to one store, group of stores, or what? There may be another way to do this. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Both. Home offices all over the place. We are a music distributor. These people are the ones that stock the shelves at your local Kmart or Walmart with music. They are in the store all day long stocking shelves so they don't have connectivity. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Who sends them all this stuff? Is it the home office, or is it a number of people all over the place? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Actually they don't check their email all day. They just download the days mail and read that till the next day. We are trying to implement wireless cards so that they can always check mail. Right now its too inconsistent for our reps. They stock CD's at stores and there is too much RF in many for it to work. Plus there isn't enough 3G coverage yet nationally. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Lets see 800 users 40 incoming lines. Assume each person checks his email 8 times a day and stays on for 20 minutes. Twenty people per line. There are 3600 minutes in a day. Eight accesses, times twenty people, times 20 minutes per call comes out to 3200. Wow I would like to see that phone bill. - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how I ought to be doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions with gusto and aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined to engage in silly banter or name calling. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Wow.Chris being a total jerk again. Come on tell me something new :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gonzalez,
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I've been tasked by my boss to pull some stats from our mail server, and i haven't the slightest idea how to go about gathering one pice of info. We have a group of users who were assigned accounts and mailboxes at the beginning of the year. We need to know who has actually logged on to the mail system and who has never checked their mail. The accounts were enabled by default, so i can't look to see which ones are disabled. I can't go by mailbox size because some people are actually studious about keeping their mailboxes small. I can't go by last logon, because NT Authority\system is constantly logging on for AV checks. Help? Jeremy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
That my friend is a long standing battle. We have people that think its ok to send out 30meg files to these people. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions I guess the point is that if they are sending these massive images and all they are doing is printing a comp on an ink jet to show the store manager, the problem isn't an email or bandwidth issue at all, but rather a user issue with the imaging folk. They need to be taught these people don't need these massive files. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Honestly Martin I have no idea. I think they print them off and show them to the store manager. I don't really know everything those people do. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions What does the receiver do with these images? Are they sent to a printer, or are they just FYI, or what? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:46 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Well its mainly pictures of what displays are going to be in the store. Some of these files used to be Gig sized but our advertising department has shrunk them down quite a bit. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:41 PM To: Exchange Discussions thinking outside the box What is this 2M file? Does it have to be 2M? Is it generic for all users, specific to a region, specific to one user? Specific to one store, group of stores, or what? There may be another way to do this. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Both. Home offices all over the place. We are a music distributor. These people are the ones that stock the shelves at your local Kmart or Walmart with music. They are in the store all day long stocking shelves so they don't have connectivity. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Who sends them all this stuff? Is it the home office, or is it a number of people all over the place? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Actually they don't check their email all day. They just download the days mail and read that till the next day. We are trying to implement wireless cards so that they can always check mail. Right now its too inconsistent for our reps. They stock CD's at stores and there is too much RF in many for it to work. Plus there isn't enough 3G coverage yet nationally. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Lets see 800 users 40 incoming lines. Assume each person checks his email 8 times a day and stays on for 20 minutes. Twenty people per line. There are 3600 minutes in a day. Eight accesses, times twenty people, times 20 minutes per call comes out to 3200. Wow I would like to see that phone bill. - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how I ought to be doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions with gusto and aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined to engage in silly banter or name calling. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Wow.Chris being a total jerk again. Come on tell me something new :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
I was thinking the same thing. Particularly a website. You could even email the links to a web server Htpp://servername/newhootersmagazinecover.jpg -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP That and that there is an alternative. Two that I can think of: 1. ftp 2. website Both would be accessible via the internet, thus no tying up the dial-up lines. The field reps would have to provide their own internet connectivity (which is really cheap these days). -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I guess the point is that if they are sending these massive images and all they are doing is printing a comp on an ink jet to show the store manager, the problem isn't an email or bandwidth issue at all, but rather a user issue with the imaging folk. They need to be taught these people don't need these massive files. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Honestly Martin I have no idea. I think they print them off and show them to the store manager. I don't really know everything those people do. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions What does the receiver do with these images? Are they sent to a printer, or are they just FYI, or what? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:46 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Well its mainly pictures of what displays are going to be in the store. Some of these files used to be Gig sized but our advertising department has shrunk them down quite a bit. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:41 PM To: Exchange Discussions thinking outside the box What is this 2M file? Does it have to be 2M? Is it generic for all users, specific to a region, specific to one user? Specific to one store, group of stores, or what? There may be another way to do this. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Both. Home offices all over the place. We are a music distributor. These people are the ones that stock the shelves at your local Kmart or Walmart with music. They are in the store all day long stocking shelves so they don't have connectivity. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Who sends them all this stuff? Is it the home office, or is it a number of people all over the place? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Actually they don't check their email all day. They just download the days mail and read that till the next day. We are trying to implement wireless cards so that they can always check mail. Right now its too inconsistent for our reps. They stock CD's at stores and there is too much RF in many for it to work. Plus there isn't enough 3G coverage yet nationally. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Lets see 800 users 40 incoming lines. Assume each person checks his email 8 times a day and stays on for 20 minutes. Twenty people per line. There are 3600 minutes in a day. Eight accesses, times twenty people, times 20 minutes per call comes out to 3200. Wow I would like to see that phone bill. - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how I ought to be doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions with gusto and aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined to engage in silly
RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Right. And like I said before we are trying to implement wireless we are just waiting for the technology to get better. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 4:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions That and that there is an alternative. Two that I can think of: 1. ftp 2. website Both would be accessible via the internet, thus no tying up the dial-up lines. The field reps would have to provide their own internet connectivity (which is really cheap these days). -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP I guess the point is that if they are sending these massive images and all they are doing is printing a comp on an ink jet to show the store manager, the problem isn't an email or bandwidth issue at all, but rather a user issue with the imaging folk. They need to be taught these people don't need these massive files. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Honestly Martin I have no idea. I think they print them off and show them to the store manager. I don't really know everything those people do. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions What does the receiver do with these images? Are they sent to a printer, or are they just FYI, or what? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:46 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Well its mainly pictures of what displays are going to be in the store. Some of these files used to be Gig sized but our advertising department has shrunk them down quite a bit. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:41 PM To: Exchange Discussions thinking outside the box What is this 2M file? Does it have to be 2M? Is it generic for all users, specific to a region, specific to one user? Specific to one store, group of stores, or what? There may be another way to do this. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Both. Home offices all over the place. We are a music distributor. These people are the ones that stock the shelves at your local Kmart or Walmart with music. They are in the store all day long stocking shelves so they don't have connectivity. Thank you, Alex Gonzalez Senior Systems Administrator Handleman Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Who sends them all this stuff? Is it the home office, or is it a number of people all over the place? -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Actually they don't check their email all day. They just download the days mail and read that till the next day. We are trying to implement wireless cards so that they can always check mail. Right now its too inconsistent for our reps. They stock CD's at stores and there is too much RF in many for it to work. Plus there isn't enough 3G coverage yet nationally. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Lets see 800 users 40 incoming lines. Assume each person checks his email 8 times a day and stays on for 20 minutes. Twenty people per line. There are 3600 minutes in a day. Eight accesses, times twenty people, times 20 minutes per call comes out to 3200. Wow I would like to see that phone bill. - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how I ought to be doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions with gusto and aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined to engage
