RE: 3rd Party SPAM block companies besides edoxs (Brightmail)

2003-08-18 Thread Tim Gowen

I don't much like MessageLabs or any other managed services.  When someone
spoofed one of our external addresses and sent viruses to us and to loads of
others in our name, MessageLabs were on the phone to me... Not to try and
help out, but to try and sell me their product.  The message had manifestly
NOT come from my domain, as anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of e-mail
headers could have told them.  And the ambulance chasing really made me feel
a little queasy.

Plus, I wonder how much legitimate mail they refuse to deliver...?

I believe in protecting my own servers and in user education about viruses
and spam.  And I believe in long, slow, wet kisses that last all night.
Isn't that the expression?


Tim


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MessageLabs

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RE: OT - DNS Architecture ?

2003-08-18 Thread Roger Seielstad
You really should slide this question over to one of the Win2k lists out
there, but I'll give you a short answer: the secondaries will work fine.

By default, secondaries forward the update requests to the zone primary,
where it would register (if permitted) and then replication will take it
back down to the secondaries. There will be a bit of lag, but no more so
than with AD integrated.

Personally, if they're going to be DCs for that domain, there's no reason to
not make them run AD Integrated zones, however.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Erik L. Vesneski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 10:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: OT - DNS Architecture ?
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I have spent considerable time looking over my DNS setup and thought I
 would send it to this list due to talent.
 
 Here it goes:
 
 I have 4 internal DNS servers.
 
 Two of them pull from an AD integrated primary outsourced DNS server.
 
 These two servers have 3 forward zones.
 
 1 AD integrated
 2 Secondarys
 
 These two servers are in our DC far away.
 
 At HQ there are two servers with the same three forward zones but they
 are secondarys.  They pull from the DNS servers in our DC.
 
 AD DNS is handled by two root domain servers in our DC.  If 
 one of these
 AD integrated servers is not used as the primary entry in the DNS
 portion of tcp/ip in the clients  servers at HQ will DNS be
 auto-updated?  If so or not why and how can I get around this?
 
 Basically - the local office with the two secondarys are going to pull
 DNS from the AD DNS systems but are these records going to accurate
 company wide?  
 
 Can 4 servers located in different geographical areas have the same AD
 integrated forward zone? In essence, act as one big AD integrated zone
 trading their records to ensure accuracy across the WAN?
 
 I am not sure what the best thing to do is here.
 
 How do I get these two sets of AD integrated systems to 
 ensure accuracy
 between each other?  
 
 Do I just turn the forward zone on my two systems at HQ into AD
 integrated and set everyone to those two systems at HQ?  If 
 the systems
 locally are not AD integrated DNS servers can I ensure accuracy?  If a
 new computer comes on the network at HQ and only points to 
 the secondary
 servers are the AD integrated zones in the root domain going to be
 updated?  Can someone in the DC see the system here at HQ?  They will
 need to.
 
 Do I make two separate AD integrated DNS systems?  Keep the one in the
 DC and make another set here at the HQ?
 
 That is the architectural question here.  Maybe I am missing something
 too.
 
 Anyway, I am obsessed with this.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Erik L. Vesneski
 WCDC Intel Lead/Sr. Systems Specialist
 ISO - Intel Systems 
 Ph#: 925-658-6161
 www.pmigroup.com
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
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Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Bridges, Samantha
Hello All.

I upgraded our Exchange 5.5 server to Exchange 2000 about 2 weeks ago.  Since then, 
the server has been rebooted twice.  Each time it was rebooted, the services did not 
start.  I have to run setup with the /domianprep to get Exchange services to start. 
Also, I notice when the services don't start, the M: drive disappears too.  When I run 
the /domainprep, the M: drive appears and the services start.

What is happening and why.  Is this normal?  Should I have to run /domainprep 
everytime the Exchange server has to be rebooted?

Thanks for any insight.

Samantha

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Re: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Tony Hlabse
That happens sometimes. Certain services depend on each other during start 
up. IIRC IIS must bestarted before Exchange starts and the reason why you do 
not get the M: drive. When you reboot make sure you maybe mark certain 
services to manual and use a simple batch script to load them.

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Subject: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 08:37:59 -0400
Hello All.

I upgraded our Exchange 5.5 server to Exchange 2000 about 2 weeks ago.  
Since then, the server has been rebooted twice.  Each time it was rebooted, 
the services did not start.  I have to run setup with the /domianprep to get 
Exchange services to start. Also, I notice when the services don't start, 
the M: drive disappears too.  When I run the /domainprep, the M: drive 
appears and the services start.

What is happening and why.  Is this normal?  Should I have to run 
/domainprep everytime the Exchange server has to be rebooted?

Thanks for any insight.

Samantha

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Chris Scharff
There is no M: drive.

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Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 7:38 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Hello All.

I upgraded our Exchange 5.5 server to Exchange 2000 about 2 weeks ago.
Since then, the server has been rebooted twice.  Each time it was
rebooted, the services did not start.  I have to run setup with the
/domianprep to get Exchange services to start. Also, I notice when the
services don't start, the M: drive disappears too.  When I run the
/domainprep, the M: drive appears and the services start.

What is happening and why.  Is this normal?  Should I have to run
/domainprep everytime the Exchange server has to be rebooted?

Thanks for any insight.

Samantha

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Bridges, Samantha
Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What is that

s.

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Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:30 AM
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There is no M: drive.

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From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 7:38 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Hello All.

I upgraded our Exchange 5.5 server to Exchange 2000 about 2 weeks ago.
Since then, the server has been rebooted twice.  Each time it was
rebooted, the services did not start.  I have to run setup with the
/domianprep to get Exchange services to start. Also, I notice when the
services don't start, the M: drive disappears too.  When I run the
/domainprep, the M: drive appears and the services start.

What is happening and why.  Is this normal?  Should I have to run
/domainprep everytime the Exchange server has to be rebooted?

Thanks for any insight.

Samantha

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread PF: Exchange

 Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What 
 is that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Bridges, Samantha
Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would M:icrosoft put that 
there?

Thanks

Sam

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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



 Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What 
 is that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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Exchange 5.5 Server hammer-age.

2003-08-18 Thread McCready, Robert
Until recently, our Exchange 5.5 Server has been running smoothly.  Lately
however, it
has been running S..L..O..W on occasions.  Our server is older (Dell 6300
with Dual 400 MHZ
processors and 1.5 GB of memory. 700 users).  The only thing that's
changed is we
have recently started upgrading some of our NT 4.0 workstations to Windows
XP workstations.
Almost all those users receive the following message the first time they
logon

Outlook is retrieving data from the Microsoft Exchange Server Exchange.
You can cancel
the request or minimize this message to the Windows taskbar until Outlook
closes the
message automatically.

Some of them receive the message more frequently.  Maybe the two issues
aren't related,
but I thought I'd start here, since it's the only thing that's changed
recently.  Is anybody else
having issues using XP Professional with Exchange 5.5?

Thanks.

Robert


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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Tony Hlabse
You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books on 
it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.

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Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400
Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would M:icrosoft 
put that there?

Thanks

Sam

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 Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What
 is that
He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!
-kevin

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Bob Sadler
Let's begin the Chant:

There is NO M Drive
There is NO M Drive
There is NO M Drive

Good...just keep repeating that to yourself.

If you need to know WHY, I suggest you pick up a good book on Exchange
administration and read it.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194

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Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would
M:icrosoft put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



 Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What
 is that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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RE: Exchange 5.5 Server hammer-age.

2003-08-18 Thread Bob Sadler
Run the Task Manager on your Exchange Server and see what's eating up
all the CPU Pocesses.

We have this problem occasionally with mssdmn.exe running 100%
utilization.  We just kill this process and things go back to normal.

As of yet, no one at MS has been able to explain why this occurs.



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-Original Message-
From: McCready, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 5.5 Server hammer-age.


Until recently, our Exchange 5.5 Server has been running smoothly.
Lately however, it has been running S..L..O..W on occasions.  Our server
is older (Dell 6300 with Dual 400 MHZ processors and 1.5 GB of
memory. 700 users).  The only thing that's changed is we have
recently started upgrading some of our NT 4.0 workstations to Windows XP
workstations. Almost all those users receive the following message the
first time they logon

Outlook is retrieving data from the Microsoft Exchange Server
Exchange. You can cancel the request or minimize this message to the
Windows taskbar until Outlook closes the message automatically.

Some of them receive the message more frequently.  Maybe the two issues
aren't related, but I thought I'd start here, since it's the only thing
that's changed recently.  Is anybody else having issues using XP
Professional with Exchange 5.5?

Thanks.

Robert


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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Robert Moir
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=booksfield-ke
ywords=Exchange%202000%20serversearch-type=ssbq=1/103-9450502-5588605

Buy some.
Read the ones you buy.
 
Two best Exchange support resources you will ever need
Http://support.microsoft.com
Http://www.google.com

We're all pleased to help with difficult questions and all but please be
considerate of the time of those people who choose to answer questions
in places like this by trying to do some research of your own...

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 Sent: 18 August 2003 14:46
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
 
 Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why 
 would M:icrosoft put that there?
 
 Thanks
 
 Sam
 
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 Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
 
 
 
  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What is 
  that
 
 He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. 
 Don't virus scan it! Don't back it up!
 
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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Chris Scharff
There is no M: drive.

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Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:46 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would
M:icrosoft put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



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He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
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-kevin

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RE: Exchange 5.5 Server hammer-age.

2003-08-18 Thread PF: Exchange
 Until recently, our Exchange 5.5 Server has been running 
 smoothly.  Lately however, it has been running S..L..O..W
  on occasions.  

 The only  thing that's changed is we
 have recently started upgrading some of our NT 4.0 
 workstations to Windows XP workstations.
 Almost all those users receive the following message the 

DNS!!! Make sure you have an internal DNS server with correct
records for your exchange servers.

-Kevin

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RE: Exchange 5.5 Server hammer-age.

2003-08-18 Thread Waters, Jeff
Running fine for us in a mixed nt/2k/xp area.  We have about 800 users on a
PIII-450 Xeon with 1gig of ram and 3 arms.  No performance problems for any
of the users.  Have you checked your DNS and WINS setting on the XP systems,
how does name resolution to your exchange server work from the cmd prompt.
Ping times, etc...

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From: McCready, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 5.5 Server hammer-age.


Until recently, our Exchange 5.5 Server has been running smoothly.  Lately
however, it
has been running S..L..O..W on occasions.  Our server is older (Dell 6300
with Dual 400 MHZ
processors and 1.5 GB of memory. 700 users).  The only thing that's
changed is we
have recently started upgrading some of our NT 4.0 workstations to Windows
XP workstations.
Almost all those users receive the following message the first time they
logon

Outlook is retrieving data from the Microsoft Exchange Server Exchange.
You can cancel
the request or minimize this message to the Windows taskbar until Outlook
closes the
message automatically.

Some of them receive the message more frequently.  Maybe the two issues
aren't related,
but I thought I'd start here, since it's the only thing that's changed
recently.  Is anybody else
having issues using XP Professional with Exchange 5.5?

Thanks.

Robert


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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Bridges, Samantha
Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was for questions.  
Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem stupid to you, but they are 
not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are good/helpful and which ones are 
not?  If you are too good for the questions being asked on this list then don't 
answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I wear many hats 
here in the name of special education children and I don't have time during or after 
work everyday/and every minute to read books on Exchange server.  I have picked up a 
few good books in the past few weeks and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have 
to bother this list.I wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like 
yourself, I will look to people like yourself who know this stuff backwards and 
forwards to give some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could remember the 
days when you were learning.  I was given this project and am doing the best I can.  
This list is for getting help, not a social event for buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books on 
it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would M:icrosoft 
put that there?

Thanks

Sam

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Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What
  is that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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RE: Exchange 5.5 Server hammer-age.

2003-08-18 Thread Barry Horner
I'll wager it's an XP connectivity issue with your 5.5 box as that's what I saw here 
during our migration.  On the client side we got rid of NetBios, made sure DNS was 
properly configured [on both client and server!!] and then dropped an lmhost file on 
the machine.  The lmhost file worked like a charm for our XP clients but had no effect 
on our W2K clients as those systems worked right the first time and really didn't need 
any tweaking.  WINS may also be a good replacement for the lmhost file - whichever 
suits your needs best.



Barry


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Central Community College - Grand Island, NE
(V) 308.398.7361(F) 308.398.7399
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 -Original Message-
From:   Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, August 18, 2003 8:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: Exchange 5.5 Server hammer-age.

Run the Task Manager on your Exchange Server and see what's eating up
all the CPU Pocesses.

We have this problem occasionally with mssdmn.exe running 100%
utilization.  We just kill this process and things go back to normal.

As of yet, no one at MS has been able to explain why this occurs.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194

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-Original Message-
From: McCready, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 5.5 Server hammer-age.


Until recently, our Exchange 5.5 Server has been running smoothly.
Lately however, it has been running S..L..O..W on occasions.  Our server
is older (Dell 6300 with Dual 400 MHZ processors and 1.5 GB of
memory. 700 users).  The only thing that's changed is we have
recently started upgrading some of our NT 4.0 workstations to Windows XP
workstations. Almost all those users receive the following message the
first time they logon

Outlook is retrieving data from the Microsoft Exchange Server
Exchange. You can cancel the request or minimize this message to the
Windows taskbar until Outlook closes the message automatically.

Some of them receive the message more frequently.  Maybe the two issues
aren't related, but I thought I'd start here, since it's the only thing
that's changed recently.  Is anybody else having issues using XP
Professional with Exchange 5.5?

Thanks.

Robert


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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Slinger, Gary
We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was for
questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem stupid
to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are
good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good for the questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I wear
many hats here in the name of special education children and I don't have
time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read books on
Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past few weeks
and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this list.I
wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like yourself, I will look
to people like yourself who know this stuff backwards and forwards to give
some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and am
doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social event for
buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books on 
it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would M:icrosoft

put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What
  is that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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RE: Exchange 2000 and Backup Exec 9.0

2003-08-18 Thread Joe Pochedley
We haven't had any problem with BE9 on our Exch2k/SP3 Win2K/SP3 system,
but we're not using the AFO option.  

Joe Pochedley
Weiler's Law - Nothing is impossible for the man who doesn't have to do
it himself.



-Original Message-
From: David Klindt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 7:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange 2000 and Backup Exec 9.0


Matt,
Yes, we had a problem with BE 9.0 on our E2K SP3/W2K SP3 servers. After
installing BE 9.0, some users could not access public folders and
personal
folders that they could access previous to the upgrade. We thought we
had
a bad install so we reinstalled BE 9.0. The result was the same, just
different users were affected. Called Veritas and they had no clue.
Searched Google and found another company with the same problem. Per
their
recommendation we installed BE 9.0 without the Advanced File option and
everything seems to be OK now.
I hope this helps.

David Klindt
AmerisourceBergen
==
 We have reached a point where we must upgrade from Backup Exec 8.6 to
 Backup Exec 9.0 for the entire organization. Backup Exec 8.6 doesn't
 support Windows 2003.  We have 2 backup servers that perform backups.
 The backup agent must be upgrade on all our servers.  Sadly, this
 requires the 8.6 version to be uninstalled, the server be rebooted,
and
 the 9.0 agent installed.  Which bring me to my question (finally):
Has
 anybody had any issue upgrading their Exchange 2000 SP3/Windows 2K SP3
 machines to Backup Exec 9.0?
 
 Veritas's knowledge base didn't show anything but there is a lot of
real
 world experience on this list.
 
 Thanks,
 
 - Matt
 
 Matthew Bailey
 LAN Engineer
 CSK Auto, Inc.
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 Fax: 602.294.7486

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Slinger, Gary
That is a clear indication that you at least need to learn to read the
bloody help file.

Gary

PS: No, in your case, the longer, the better.  The lights may be on, but
there is definately nobody home.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 09:41
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What is that

s.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


There is no M: drive.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 7:38 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Hello All.

I upgraded our Exchange 5.5 server to Exchange 2000 about 2 weeks ago.
Since then, the server has been rebooted twice.  Each time it was
rebooted, the services did not start.  I have to run setup with the
/domianprep to get Exchange services to start. Also, I notice when the
services don't start, the M: drive disappears too.  When I run the
/domainprep, the M: drive appears and the services start.

What is happening and why.  Is this normal?  Should I have to run
/domainprep everytime the Exchange server has to be rebooted?

Thanks for any insight.

Samantha

P.s.The lights finally on here in Michigan...in case anyone cares.


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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Sean Faust
Man, I thought I was cold..They need you in Iraq...Anybody else care to call Ms. 
Bridges some names?




-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was for
questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem stupid
to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are
good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good for the questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I wear
many hats here in the name of special education children and I don't have
time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read books on
Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past few weeks
and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this list.I
wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like yourself, I will look
to people like yourself who know this stuff backwards and forwards to give
some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and am
doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social event for
buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books on 
it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would M:icrosoft

put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
From: PF: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What
  is that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Bridges, Samantha
See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was for
questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem stupid
to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are
good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good for the questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I wear
many hats here in the name of special education children and I don't have
time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read books on
Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past few weeks
and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this list.I
wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like yourself, I will look
to people like yourself who know this stuff backwards and forwards to give
some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and am
doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social event for
buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books on 
it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would M:icrosoft

put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What
  is that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Bowles, John (OIG/OMP)
Samantha, 

This seems to happen all the time.  It happened to me when I first started learning 
exchange.  What I've gotten out of it, is don't let one negative response stop you 
from still posting on this list.  You are absolutely right, this list is to be used as 
a question/answer type of list.  Or be pointed in the right direction.  I think what 
Tony was trying to say was that instead of just asking the question, maybe trying to 
research it first?  Maybe you are.  Who knows we aren't sitting right next to you when 
you post.  But sometimes it may appear like you're just looking for people to do your 
leg work for you.  Maybe if you post what you've done so far before you post might 
give people on here a better understanding that you're trying to do the legwork but 
aren't finding any answers. But DO NOT get turned off by one response on this list.  
Keep posting.  Just make sure you try to include what you've done so far when asking 
questions.  Just trying to help you out.  Because I know how it was when I was first 
trying to learn exchange.  

_
John Bowles
Exchange Engineer
OIG/HHS
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was for questions.  
Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem stupid to you, but they are 
not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are good/helpful and which ones are 
not?  If you are too good for the questions being asked on this list then don't 
answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I wear many hats 
here in the name of special education children and I don't have time during or after 
work everyday/and every minute to read books on Exchange server.  I have picked up a 
few good books in the past few weeks and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have 
to bother this list.I wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like 
yourself, I will look to people like yourself who know this stuff backwards and 
forwards to give some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could remember the 
days when you were learning.  I was given this project and am doing the best I can.  
This list is for getting help, not a social event for buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books on 
it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would M:icrosoft 
put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What
  is that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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RE: Exchange 2000 and Backup Exec 9.0

2003-08-18 Thread John Parker
Wow.

I like this forum because it is an information cornucopia.
And I also liked it because I felt it was a step above the usual
I a bigger geek than you flame wars that kick up all over the net.
I am hoping that in the long run, we can avoid sophomoric commentary.

I agree that one should look in books and research issues online, but at the same time,
It is dificult wearing many hats.  

I guess what I am saying is this.  Instead of throwing our inflammitory remarks,  Just 
shake your head and ignore the post.  People won't question your emotional intellect 
that way.

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.
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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Steve Hanna

Samantha, 
 This list is at sometimes a little rough. If you wish to communicate within
this community there are certain expectations # 1, read the FAQ for this
list (as you should for any list). There are a bunch of very smart folk on
this list that are giving advise for *free*.. If you don't like the advise
ask for a refund[1]

[1] This was a quote sorry I can't remember who first made the statement.

--steve

  




 -Original Message-
 From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:17 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
 
 
 Thanks Tony for your advice.
 
 Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this 
 list was for questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people 
 in this list seem stupid to you, but they are not.  Who 
 made you the judge of what questions are good/helpful and 
 which ones are not?  If you are too good for the questions 
 being asked on this list then don't answer. 
 
 I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange 
 servers but I wear many hats here in the name of special 
 education children and I don't have time during or after work 
 everyday/and every minute to read books on Exchange server.  
 I have picked up a few good books in the past few weeks and 
 they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this 
 list.I wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro 
 like yourself, I will look to people like yourself who know 
 this stuff backwards and forwards to give some direction.  
 
 I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish 
 that you could remember the days when you were learning.  I 
 was given this project and am doing the best I can.  This 
 list is for getting help, not a social event for buddies.
 
 It is a shame that you are not more patient.
 
 Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.
 
 Samantha
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
 
 
 You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start 
 reading books on 
 it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.
 
 
 From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400
 
 Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why 
 would M:icrosoft 
 put that there?
 
 Thanks
 
 Sam
 
 -Original Message-
 From: PF: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
 
 
 
   Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What
   is that
 
 He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. 
 Don't virus
 scan it! Don't back it up!
 
 -kevin
 
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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Chris Scharff
This crap stops now. Take it offline or STFU. Martin doesn't want this
list degenerating into flame wars. Gary, you're just as likely to get
moderated as Samantha at this point. Don't make me log into yahoo and
baby-sit this morning, I've got too much else to do.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:25 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was
for
questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem
stupid
to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are
good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good for the
questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I
wear
many hats here in the name of special education children and I don't
have
time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read books on
Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past few
weeks
and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this
list.I
wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like yourself, I will
look
to people like yourself who know this stuff backwards and forwards to
give
some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and
am
doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social event
for
buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books
on 
it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would
M:icrosoft

put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
From: PF: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What
  is that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Bridges, Samantha
Thank you so much.  I was getting discouraged.  I really do try to do the leg work 
before asking and I don't blame this list for asking me to at least do that.  

Thanks for your kind words.

I apologize to anyone I might have offended.  



-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John (OIG/OMP) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Samantha, 

This seems to happen all the time.  It happened to me when I first started learning 
exchange.  What I've gotten out of it, is don't let one negative response stop you 
from still posting on this list.  You are absolutely right, this list is to be used as 
a question/answer type of list.  Or be pointed in the right direction.  I think what 
Tony was trying to say was that instead of just asking the question, maybe trying to 
research it first?  Maybe you are.  Who knows we aren't sitting right next to you when 
you post.  But sometimes it may appear like you're just looking for people to do your 
leg work for you.  Maybe if you post what you've done so far before you post might 
give people on here a better understanding that you're trying to do the legwork but 
aren't finding any answers. But DO NOT get turned off by one response on this list.  
Keep posting.  Just make sure you try to include what you've done so far when asking 
questions.  Just trying to help you out.  Because I know how it was when I was first 
trying to learn exchange.  

_
John Bowles
Exchange Engineer
OIG/HHS
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was for questions.  
Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem stupid to you, but they are 
not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are good/helpful and which ones are 
not?  If you are too good for the questions being asked on this list then don't 
answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I wear many hats 
here in the name of special education children and I don't have time during or after 
work everyday/and every minute to read books on Exchange server.  I have picked up a 
few good books in the past few weeks and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have 
to bother this list.I wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like 
yourself, I will look to people like yourself who know this stuff backwards and 
forwards to give some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could remember the 
days when you were learning.  I was given this project and am doing the best I can.  
This list is for getting help, not a social event for buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books on 
it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would M:icrosoft 
put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
From: PF: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What
  is that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Chris Scharff
Oh wait... this is the swynk list. Nevermind. Carry on. 

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff 
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:29 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

This crap stops now. Take it offline or STFU. Martin doesn't want this
list degenerating into flame wars. Gary, you're just as likely to get
moderated as Samantha at this point. Don't make me log into yahoo and
baby-sit this morning, I've got too much else to do.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:25 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was
for
questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem
stupid
to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are
good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good for the
questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I
wear
many hats here in the name of special education children and I don't
have
time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read books on
Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past few
weeks
and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this
list.I
wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like yourself, I will
look
to people like yourself who know this stuff backwards and forwards to
give
some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and
am
doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social event
for
buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books
on 
it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would
M:icrosoft

put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What
  is that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Martin Blackstone
The crap starts now! :) 

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 7:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Oh wait... this is the swynk list. Nevermind. Carry on. 

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff 
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:29 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

This crap stops now. Take it offline or STFU. Martin doesn't want this
list degenerating into flame wars. Gary, you're just as likely to get
moderated as Samantha at this point. Don't make me log into yahoo and
baby-sit this morning, I've got too much else to do.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:25 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was
for
questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem
stupid
to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are
good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good for the
questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I
wear
many hats here in the name of special education children and I don't
have
time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read books on
Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past few
weeks
and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this
list.I
wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like yourself, I will
look
to people like yourself who know this stuff backwards and forwards to
give
some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and
am
doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social event
for
buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books
on 
it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would
M:icrosoft

put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
From: PF: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What
  is that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Hutchins, Mike
LMAO! 

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Oh wait... this is the swynk list. Nevermind. Carry on. 

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:29 AM Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

This crap stops now. Take it offline or STFU. Martin doesn't want this
list degenerating into flame wars. Gary, you're just as likely to get
moderated as Samantha at this point. Don't make me log into yahoo and
baby-sit this morning, I've got too much else to do.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Monday,
August 18, 2003 9:25 AM Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was
for questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem
stupid
to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are
good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good for the
questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I
wear many hats here in the name of special education children and I
don't have time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read
books on Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past
few weeks and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this
list.I wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like
yourself, I will look to people like yourself who know this stuff
backwards and forwards to give some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and
am doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social
event for buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books
on it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would
M:icrosoft

put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
From: PF: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What
  is that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Martin Blackstone
Don't make me pull this car over! I will turn us around and take us right
back home if this crap keeps up! 

-Original Message-
From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 7:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

LMAO! 

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Oh wait... this is the swynk list. Nevermind. Carry on. 

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:29 AM Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

This crap stops now. Take it offline or STFU. Martin doesn't want this
list degenerating into flame wars. Gary, you're just as likely to get
moderated as Samantha at this point. Don't make me log into yahoo and
baby-sit this morning, I've got too much else to do.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Monday,
August 18, 2003 9:25 AM Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was
for questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem
stupid
to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are
good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good for the
questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I
wear many hats here in the name of special education children and I
don't have time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read
books on Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past
few weeks and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this
list.I wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like
yourself, I will look to people like yourself who know this stuff
backwards and forwards to give some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and
am doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social
event for buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books
on it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would
M:icrosoft

put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
From: PF: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What
  is that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Les Bessant
Pst!!

Wrong list!


Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sanderson Townend  Gilbert
 


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 August 2003 15:29
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


This crap stops now. Take it offline or STFU. Martin doesn't want this
list degenerating into flame wars. Gary, you're just as likely to get
moderated as Samantha at this point. Don't make me log into yahoo and
baby-sit this morning, I've got too much else to do.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:25 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was
for
questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem
stupid
to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are
good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good for the
questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I
wear
many hats here in the name of special education children and I don't
have
time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read books on
Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past few
weeks
and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this
list.I
wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like yourself, I will
look
to people like yourself who know this stuff backwards and forwards to
give
some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and
am
doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social event
for
buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books
on 
it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would
M:icrosoft

put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
From: PF: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What
  is that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Martin Blackstone
indeed 

-Original Message-
From: Les Bessant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 7:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Pst!!

Wrong list!


Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sanderson Townend  Gilbert
 


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 August 2003 15:29
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


This crap stops now. Take it offline or STFU. Martin doesn't want this
list degenerating into flame wars. Gary, you're just as likely to get
moderated as Samantha at this point. Don't make me log into yahoo and
baby-sit this morning, I've got too much else to do.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:25 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was
for
questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem
stupid
to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are
good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good for the
questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I
wear
many hats here in the name of special education children and I don't
have
time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read books on
Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past few
weeks
and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this
list.I
wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like yourself, I will
look
to people like yourself who know this stuff backwards and forwards to
give
some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and
am
doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social event
for
buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books
on 
it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would
M:icrosoft

put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
From: PF: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What
  is that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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RE: Exchange 5.5 Server hammer-age.

2003-08-18 Thread John Matteson
Just to give you a comparison, I'm running a Dell PE 6600, 2 Gigs RAM,
dual 1.4 GHz processors, 900 users spread over 3 Message Databases and
two RAID arrays. We still get the flag. I get the flag when I'm sitting
still too, no manual activity on the laptop that I'm using.

The flag is set by Outlook and is an indication of slow response by the
Exchange server. The timeout for the flag can be set in the registry, or
the flag can be turned off all together. The only thing I've found so
far is that it's an incentive to performance tune your Exchange server
and then look for other reasons for slow response time. The flag can
also pop up when the workstation is doing some background work, like
rendering a graphic and trying to update free/busy time on the Exchange
server at the same time.

It's an indication of performance problems, just not specific as to the
cause.

John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.



-Original Message-
From: McCready, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:39 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: Exchange 5.5 Server hammer-age.
Subject: Exchange 5.5 Server hammer-age.


Until recently, our Exchange 5.5 Server has been running smoothly.
Lately however, it has been running S..L..O..W on occasions.  Our server
is older (Dell 6300 with Dual 400 MHZ processors and 1.5 GB of
memory. 700 users).  The only thing that's changed is we have
recently started upgrading some of our NT 4.0 workstations to Windows XP
workstations. Almost all those users receive the following message the
first time they logon

Outlook is retrieving data from the Microsoft Exchange Server
Exchange. You can cancel the request or minimize this message to the
Windows taskbar until Outlook closes the message automatically.

Some of them receive the message more frequently.  Maybe the two issues
aren't related, but I thought I'd start here, since it's the only thing
that's changed recently.  Is anybody else having issues using XP
Professional with Exchange 5.5?

Thanks.

Robert


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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Ely, Don
Does this mean I should refrain from posting as well...  ;o) 

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

This crap stops now. Take it offline or STFU. Martin doesn't want this list
degenerating into flame wars. Gary, you're just as likely to get moderated
as Samantha at this point. Don't make me log into yahoo and baby-sit this
morning, I've got too much else to do.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Monday, August
18, 2003 9:25 AM Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was for
questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem stupid
to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are
good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good for the questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I wear
many hats here in the name of special education children and I don't have
time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read books on
Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past few weeks
and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this list.I
wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like yourself, I will look
to people like yourself who know this stuff backwards and forwards to give
some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and am
doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social event for
buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books on
it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would
M:icrosoft

put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What
  is that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Ely, Don
Don't make me come back there and b!tch slap you!!!  :P 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Don't make me pull this car over! I will turn us around and take us right
back home if this crap keeps up! 

-Original Message-
From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 7:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

LMAO! 

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Oh wait... this is the swynk list. Nevermind. Carry on. 

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:29 AM Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

This crap stops now. Take it offline or STFU. Martin doesn't want this list
degenerating into flame wars. Gary, you're just as likely to get moderated
as Samantha at this point. Don't make me log into yahoo and baby-sit this
morning, I've got too much else to do.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Monday, August
18, 2003 9:25 AM Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was for
questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem stupid
to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are
good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good for the questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I wear
many hats here in the name of special education children and I don't have
time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read books on
Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past few weeks
and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this list.I
wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like yourself, I will look
to people like yourself who know this stuff backwards and forwards to give
some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and am
doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social event for
buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books on
it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would M:icrosoft

put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
From: PF: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What   is
that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus scan
it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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RE: Exchange 5.5 Server hammer-age.

2003-08-18 Thread Finch Brett
 You have the Q article that relates to setting this flag? We used to have
it with NAV in MAPI/VAPI mode, then we went to MAPI only and scheduled scans
so the store wasn't always being re-scanned when the latest virus
definitions arrived.

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 08:52
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 Server hammer-age.


Just to give you a comparison, I'm running a Dell PE 6600, 2 Gigs RAM, dual
1.4 GHz processors, 900 users spread over 3 Message Databases and two RAID
arrays. We still get the flag. I get the flag when I'm sitting still too, no
manual activity on the laptop that I'm using.

The flag is set by Outlook and is an indication of slow response by the
Exchange server. The timeout for the flag can be set in the registry, or the
flag can be turned off all together. The only thing I've found so far is
that it's an incentive to performance tune your Exchange server and then
look for other reasons for slow response time. The flag can also pop up when
the workstation is doing some background work, like rendering a graphic and
trying to update free/busy time on the Exchange server at the same time.

It's an indication of performance problems, just not specific as to the
cause.

John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.



-Original Message-
From: McCready, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:39 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: Exchange 5.5 Server hammer-age.
Subject: Exchange 5.5 Server hammer-age.


Until recently, our Exchange 5.5 Server has been running smoothly. Lately
however, it has been running S..L..O..W on occasions.  Our server is older
(Dell 6300 with Dual 400 MHZ processors and 1.5 GB of memory. 700
users).  The only thing that's changed is we have recently started upgrading
some of our NT 4.0 workstations to Windows XP workstations. Almost all those
users receive the following message the first time they logon

Outlook is retrieving data from the Microsoft Exchange Server Exchange.
You can cancel the request or minimize this message to the Windows taskbar
until Outlook closes the message automatically.

Some of them receive the message more frequently.  Maybe the two issues
aren't related, but I thought I'd start here, since it's the only thing
that's changed recently.  Is anybody else having issues using XP
Professional with Exchange 5.5?

Thanks.

Robert


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move mailbox - strip off group permissions?

2003-08-18 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
I am seeing some weird stuff. We moved a bunch of mailboxes from one
Exchange 2000 server to another Exchange 2000 server (within the same
org, within the same Admin group).

All of a sudden we are getting calls that users can't access some common
mailboxes. These users are members of special groups that were given
full mailbox access permission to those common mailboxes. For some
reason these group permissions were stripped off during the mailbox
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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Slinger, Gary
We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time.  

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.  

Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still am,
sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like you.
You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and I'll be
nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with a complete
expectation that someone else is going to do even the most basic research
for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone like me pissed at you.

You don't like it?  Tough.  Like you said in one of your last pieces of
drivel, don't read it.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was for
questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem stupid
to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are
good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good for the questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I wear
many hats here in the name of special education children and I don't have
time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read books on
Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past few weeks
and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this list.I
wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like yourself, I will look
to people like yourself who know this stuff backwards and forwards to give
some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and am
doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social event for
buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books on 
it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would M:icrosoft

put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
From: PF: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What
  is that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Slinger, Gary
See?  :)

On Martin's list, I play nice.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:30
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Oh wait... this is the swynk list. Nevermind. Carry on. 

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff 
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:29 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

This crap stops now. Take it offline or STFU. Martin doesn't want this
list degenerating into flame wars. Gary, you're just as likely to get
moderated as Samantha at this point. Don't make me log into yahoo and
baby-sit this morning, I've got too much else to do.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:25 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was
for
questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem
stupid
to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are
good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good for the
questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I
wear
many hats here in the name of special education children and I don't
have
time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read books on
Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past few
weeks
and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this
list.I
wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like yourself, I will
look
to people like yourself who know this stuff backwards and forwards to
give
some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and
am
doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social event
for
buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books
on 
it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would
M:icrosoft

put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
From: PF: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What
  is that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Pillai, Raj

Whoa, tough crowd this morning.
Well, you can't learn to become an exchange admin just by subscribing to
this list, however you can become a better administrator by listenig to
what the experts in this list have to say about exchange issues. Also,
the advice and opinions are free, unless you want to buy them beer :-)
My 2 cents worth.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


indeed 

-Original Message-
From: Les Bessant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 7:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Pst!!

Wrong list!


Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sanderson Townend  Gilbert
 


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 August 2003 15:29
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


This crap stops now. Take it offline or STFU. Martin doesn't want this
list degenerating into flame wars. Gary, you're just as likely to get
moderated as Samantha at this point. Don't make me log into yahoo and
baby-sit this morning, I've got too much else to do.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:25 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was
for
questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem
stupid
to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are
good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good for the
questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I
wear
many hats here in the name of special education children and I don't
have
time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read books on
Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past few
weeks
and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this
list.I
wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like yourself, I will
look
to people like yourself who know this stuff backwards and forwards to
give
some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and
am
doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social event
for
buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books
on 
it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would
M:icrosoft

put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
From: PF: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What
  is that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Bowles, John (OIG/OMP)
Gary, nobody cares about how much you know or how much you've done.  If you don't like 
her question, simply don't answer it.  End of story.  

_
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Exchange Engineer
OIG/HHS
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time.  

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.  

Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still am,
sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like you.
You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and I'll be
nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with a complete
expectation that someone else is going to do even the most basic research
for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone like me pissed at you.

You don't like it?  Tough.  Like you said in one of your last pieces of
drivel, don't read it.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was for
questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem stupid
to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are
good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good for the questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I wear
many hats here in the name of special education children and I don't have
time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read books on
Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past few weeks
and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this list.I
wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like yourself, I will look
to people like yourself who know this stuff backwards and forwards to give
some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and am
doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social event for
buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books on 
it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would M:icrosoft

put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
From: PF: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What
  is that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Bridges, Samantha
Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you know Exchange??  
(what a dork!)

I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much.  I think you are 
lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself by being the best at a 
computer software.  

Get a life.looser boy!!!


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time.  

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.  

Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still am,
sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like you.
You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and I'll be
nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with a complete
expectation that someone else is going to do even the most basic research
for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone like me pissed at you.

You don't like it?  Tough.  Like you said in one of your last pieces of
drivel, don't read it.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was for
questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem stupid
to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are
good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good for the questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I wear
many hats here in the name of special education children and I don't have
time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read books on
Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past few weeks
and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this list.I
wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like yourself, I will look
to people like yourself who know this stuff backwards and forwards to give
some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and am
doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social event for
buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books on 
it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would M:icrosoft

put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
From: PF: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What
  is that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Bridges, Samantha
Gary,

You definitely have issues.  You need to chill on your greatness.

Please stop with the negative messages.  I think people are bored of hearing how 
wonderful you are.



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time.  

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.  

Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still am,
sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like you.
You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and I'll be
nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with a complete
expectation that someone else is going to do even the most basic research
for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone like me pissed at you.

You don't like it?  Tough.  Like you said in one of your last pieces of
drivel, don't read it.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was for
questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem stupid
to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are
good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good for the questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I wear
many hats here in the name of special education children and I don't have
time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read books on
Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past few weeks
and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this list.I
wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like yourself, I will look
to people like yourself who know this stuff backwards and forwards to give
some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and am
doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social event for
buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books on 
it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would M:icrosoft

put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
From: PF: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What
  is that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Hutchins, Mike
Loser boy. If you are gonna call people names, please at least spell the
name correctly. :-) 

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you
know Exchange??  (what a dork!)

I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much.  I
think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself
by being the best at a computer software.  

Get a life.looser boy!!!


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time.  

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.  

Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still
am, sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like
you.
You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and I'll
be nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with a
complete expectation that someone else is going to do even the most
basic research for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone
like me pissed at you.

You don't like it?  Tough.  Like you said in one of your last pieces of
drivel, don't read it.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was
for questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem
stupid
to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are
good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good for the
questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I
wear many hats here in the name of special education children and I
don't have time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read
books on Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past
few weeks and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this
list.I wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like
yourself, I will look to people like yourself who know this stuff
backwards and forwards to give some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and
am doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social
event for buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books
on it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would
M:icrosoft

put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
From: PF: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What
  is that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Ely, Don
Someone say beer?
 

-Original Message-
From: Pillai, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Whoa, tough crowd this morning.
Well, you can't learn to become an exchange admin just by subscribing to
this list, however you can become a better administrator by listenig to what
the experts in this list have to say about exchange issues. Also, the advice
and opinions are free, unless you want to buy them beer :-) My 2 cents
worth.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


indeed 

-Original Message-
From: Les Bessant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 7:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Pst!!

Wrong list!


Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sanderson Townend  Gilbert
 


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 August 2003 15:29
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


This crap stops now. Take it offline or STFU. Martin doesn't want this
list degenerating into flame wars. Gary, you're just as likely to get
moderated as Samantha at this point. Don't make me log into yahoo and
baby-sit this morning, I've got too much else to do.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:25 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was
for
questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem
stupid
to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are
good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good for the
questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I
wear
many hats here in the name of special education children and I don't
have
time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read books on
Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past few
weeks
and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this
list.I
wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like yourself, I will
look
to people like yourself who know this stuff backwards and forwards to
give
some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and
am
doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social event
for
buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books
on 
it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would
M:icrosoft

put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
From: PF: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What
  is that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Slinger, Gary
I've been asked, by someone whose opinion I care about, to leave Samantha
alone.  So I'll do so.

Wouldn't want anyone thinking I'd been scared off... 

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:39
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you know
Exchange??  (what a dork!)

I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much.  I think
you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself by being
the best at a computer software.  

Get a life.looser boy!!!


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time.  

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.  

Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still am,
sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like you.
You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and I'll be
nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with a complete
expectation that someone else is going to do even the most basic research
for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone like me pissed at you.

You don't like it?  Tough.  Like you said in one of your last pieces of
drivel, don't read it.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was for
questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem stupid
to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are
good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good for the questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I wear
many hats here in the name of special education children and I don't have
time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read books on
Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past few weeks
and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this list.I
wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like yourself, I will look
to people like yourself who know this stuff backwards and forwards to give
some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and am
doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social event for
buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books on
it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would M:icrosoft

put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
From: PF: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What
  is that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Bridges, Samantha
Can't spell when your upset.

I don't want to argue anymore.  I have work to do.

-Original Message-
From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Loser boy. If you are gonna call people names, please at least spell the
name correctly. :-) 

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you
know Exchange??  (what a dork!)

I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much.  I
think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself
by being the best at a computer software.  

Get a life.looser boy!!!


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time.  

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.  

Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still
am, sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like
you.
You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and I'll
be nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with a
complete expectation that someone else is going to do even the most
basic research for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone
like me pissed at you.

You don't like it?  Tough.  Like you said in one of your last pieces of
drivel, don't read it.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was
for questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem
stupid
to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are
good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good for the
questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I
wear many hats here in the name of special education children and I
don't have time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read
books on Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past
few weeks and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this
list.I wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like
yourself, I will look to people like yourself who know this stuff
backwards and forwards to give some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and
am doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social
event for buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books
on it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would
M:icrosoft

put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
From: PF: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  

RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Christopher Hummert
Is that like sk8ter boi?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hutchins, Mike
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Loser boy. If you are gonna call people names, please at least spell the
name correctly. :-) 

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you
know Exchange??  (what a dork!)

I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much.  I
think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself
by being the best at a computer software.  

Get a life.looser boy!!!


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time.  

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.  

Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still
am, sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like
you. You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and
I'll be nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with
a complete expectation that someone else is going to do even the most
basic research for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone
like me pissed at you.

You don't like it?  Tough.  Like you said in one of your last pieces of
drivel, don't read it.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was
for questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem
stupid to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what
questions are good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good
for the questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I
wear many hats here in the name of special education children and I
don't have time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read
books on Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past
few weeks and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this
list.I wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like
yourself, I will look to people like yourself who know this stuff
backwards and forwards to give some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and
am doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social
event for buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books
on it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would
M:icrosoft

put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
From: PF: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What   is
that

He's 

RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Bowles, John (OIG/OMP)
LOL

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OIG/HHS
W. 202.690.6342
C.  202.359.7159
F.  202.690.7446
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-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Is that like sk8ter boi?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hutchins, Mike
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Loser boy. If you are gonna call people names, please at least spell the
name correctly. :-) 

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you
know Exchange??  (what a dork!)

I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much.  I
think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself
by being the best at a computer software.  

Get a life.looser boy!!!


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time.  

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.  

Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still
am, sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like
you. You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and
I'll be nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with
a complete expectation that someone else is going to do even the most
basic research for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone
like me pissed at you.

You don't like it?  Tough.  Like you said in one of your last pieces of
drivel, don't read it.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was
for questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem
stupid to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what
questions are good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good
for the questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I
wear many hats here in the name of special education children and I
don't have time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read
books on Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past
few weeks and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this
list.I wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like
yourself, I will look to people like yourself who know this stuff
backwards and forwards to give some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and
am doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social
event for buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books
on it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though? 

RE: PST version - revisited

2003-08-18 Thread Ali Wilkes (IT)
Ok not quite figured out.

PST's are on cd.

Copied to hdd, yes I remembered to uncheck RO.

Still not able to access them.

Tried scanpst.  Not working very well.

Any other ideas?

TIA,
Ali

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) 
Posted At: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:48 AM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version
Subject: RE: PST version


Actually, I figured it out... I had opened them with ol2003beta a while back.

I'll just wait til the audit is over and re-install officexp.

b

thanks...

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:31 AM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version
Subject: Re: PST version


Maybe it isn't? Did you try running scanpst against it.


From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PST version
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 09:03:23 -0400

Had to rebuild... had office XP, now have office2k.

Trying to open my .PST.  When I try to add it to the service, a pop-up so 
thoughtfully informs me:
Exchange.PST is not a personal folders store.

No, it is not checked read-only.

Ideas?

TIA,
Ali

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Ely, Don
Deans reply to Gary

Sam, spell chuck is your friend, even when you're upset.  Additionally, one
ought not feed the fire...

John, no comment...  You're a meal just waiting to be eaten...

Everyone else, where is this beer I keep hearing about?? 

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

I've been asked, by someone whose opinion I care about, to leave Samantha
alone.  So I'll do so.

Wouldn't want anyone thinking I'd been scared off... 

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:39
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you know
Exchange??  (what a dork!)

I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much.  I think
you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself by being
the best at a computer software.  

Get a life.looser boy!!!


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time.  

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.  

Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still am,
sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like you.
You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and I'll be
nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with a complete
expectation that someone else is going to do even the most basic research
for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone like me pissed at you.

You don't like it?  Tough.  Like you said in one of your last pieces of
drivel, don't read it.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was for
questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem stupid
to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are
good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good for the questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I wear
many hats here in the name of special education children and I don't have
time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read books on
Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past few weeks
and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this list.I
wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like yourself, I will look
to people like yourself who know this stuff backwards and forwards to give
some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and am
doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social event for
buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books on
it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would M:icrosoft

put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-

RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Bowles, John (OIG/OMP)
You're a pretty funny guy Don.  Love to see that happen.

_
John Bowles
Exchange Engineer
OIG/HHS
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Deans reply to Gary

Sam, spell chuck is your friend, even when you're upset.  Additionally, one
ought not feed the fire...

John, no comment...  You're a meal just waiting to be eaten...

Everyone else, where is this beer I keep hearing about?? 

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

I've been asked, by someone whose opinion I care about, to leave Samantha
alone.  So I'll do so.

Wouldn't want anyone thinking I'd been scared off... 

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:39
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you know
Exchange??  (what a dork!)

I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much.  I think
you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself by being
the best at a computer software.  

Get a life.looser boy!!!


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time.  

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.  

Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still am,
sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like you.
You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and I'll be
nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with a complete
expectation that someone else is going to do even the most basic research
for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone like me pissed at you.

You don't like it?  Tough.  Like you said in one of your last pieces of
drivel, don't read it.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was for
questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem stupid
to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are
good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good for the questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I wear
many hats here in the name of special education children and I don't have
time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read books on
Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past few weeks
and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this list.I
wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like yourself, I will look
to people like yourself who know this stuff backwards and forwards to give
some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and am
doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social event for
buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books on
it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, 

RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Hutchins, Mike
Sort of, only slightly different. 

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Is that like sk8ter boi?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hutchins, Mike
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Loser boy. If you are gonna call people names, please at least spell the
name correctly. :-) 

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you
know Exchange??  (what a dork!)

I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much.  I
think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself
by being the best at a computer software.  

Get a life.looser boy!!!


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time.  

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.  

Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still
am, sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like
you. You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and
I'll be nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with
a complete expectation that someone else is going to do even the most
basic research for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone
like me pissed at you.

You don't like it?  Tough.  Like you said in one of your last pieces of
drivel, don't read it.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was
for questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem
stupid to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what
questions are good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good
for the questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I
wear many hats here in the name of special education children and I
don't have time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read
books on Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past
few weeks and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this
list.I wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like
yourself, I will look to people like yourself who know this stuff
backwards and forwards to give some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and
am doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social
event for buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books
on it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would
M:icrosoft

put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
From: PF: 

RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Brian Ko
I don't participate in flame e-mail, but calling someone time asting,
freebie wanting, idiot without knowing that person may not be fair.
Maybe someone who does not contribute as much want to answer those
questions if you don't want to...  You should ignore stupid questions
(to you, but it may not be stupid to others) if you think they are not
worth answering.

Brian

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slinger, Gary
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was
for
questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem
stupid
to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are
good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good for the
questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I
wear
many hats here in the name of special education children and I don't
have
time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read books on
Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past few
weeks
and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this
list.I
wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like yourself, I will
look
to people like yourself who know this stuff backwards and forwards to
give
some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and
am
doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social event
for
buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books
on 
it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would
M:icrosoft

put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
From: PF: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What
  is that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Bob Sadler
You know, for just a minute, just a fleeting minute, I sympathized with
you Sam.

You original comeback to Gary was thought out well, communicated well,
and tugged at my heart.

Of course now, you have gone and called people names and are doing to
Gary the same thing that Gary did to you, which was upsetting to you.

Is this what you teach your Special Ed children?  That getting angry and
saying mean and nasty things about a person is ok if they did it to you
first?

Hey, I totally understand your frustration.  Someone's breathing down
you neck, expecting you to get this server up and running.  I understand
you wear many different Hats, most people on this list do.  But, I don't
understand how you choose to do the same thing to Gary, that has
inflicted you with such pain; you should know better.

I honestly wish I could answer your question for you, but I'm afraid I'm
not sure what the question was now, but I doubt I could, as you were
asking something fairly advanced.  I suggest you do one of the following
three things at this point:

1).  Go to www.microsoft.com and research.  Search through the Knowledge
Base on pertinent keywords to your problem.  Try many different words
though, as MS may have your problem filed in a strange and weird way.

2).  Call PSS.  This will cost you about $300 I believe.  But those
people will be extremely helpful (and nice) and will be able to tell you
how to accomplish what you need to.

3).  Go to your boss, tell him/her that you cannot do the Exchange Admin
job and suggest they hire a Contractor for the problems.  You may even
find a Contractor that will donate his time to your non-profit
organization, if you promise to give him a letter detailing the amount
of time he has spent working on your problems for the time you employ
him.  This way he can take that as a tax deductible item in his filings
next year.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you
know Exchange??  (what a dork!)

I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much.  I
think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself
by being the best at a computer software.  

Get a life.looser boy!!!


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time.  

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.  

Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still
am, sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like
you. You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and
I'll be nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with
a complete expectation that someone else is going to do even the most
basic research for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone
like me pissed at you.

You don't like it?  Tough.  Like you said in one of your last pieces of
drivel, don't read it.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was
for questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem
stupid to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what
questions are good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good
for the questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I
wear many hats here in the name of special education children and I
don't have time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read
books on Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in 

RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Tony Hlabse
Who started this anyways?

From: Bob Sadler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 10:47:58 -0500
You know, for just a minute, just a fleeting minute, I sympathized with
you Sam.
You original comeback to Gary was thought out well, communicated well,
and tugged at my heart.
Of course now, you have gone and called people names and are doing to
Gary the same thing that Gary did to you, which was upsetting to you.
Is this what you teach your Special Ed children?  That getting angry and
saying mean and nasty things about a person is ok if they did it to you
first?
Hey, I totally understand your frustration.  Someone's breathing down
you neck, expecting you to get this server up and running.  I understand
you wear many different Hats, most people on this list do.  But, I don't
understand how you choose to do the same thing to Gary, that has
inflicted you with such pain; you should know better.
I honestly wish I could answer your question for you, but I'm afraid I'm
not sure what the question was now, but I doubt I could, as you were
asking something fairly advanced.  I suggest you do one of the following
three things at this point:
1).  Go to www.microsoft.com and research.  Search through the Knowledge
Base on pertinent keywords to your problem.  Try many different words
though, as MS may have your problem filed in a strange and weird way.
2).  Call PSS.  This will cost you about $300 I believe.  But those
people will be extremely helpful (and nice) and will be able to tell you
how to accomplish what you need to.
3).  Go to your boss, tell him/her that you cannot do the Exchange Admin
job and suggest they hire a Contractor for the problems.  You may even
find a Contractor that will donate his time to your non-profit
organization, if you promise to give him a letter detailing the amount
of time he has spent working on your problems for the time you employ
him.  This way he can take that as a tax deductible item in his filings
next year.


Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you
know Exchange??  (what a dork!)
I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much.  I
think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself
by being the best at a computer software.
Get a life.looser boy!!!

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time.

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.
Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still
am, sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like
you. You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and
I'll be nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with
a complete expectation that someone else is going to do even the most
basic research for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone
like me pissed at you.
You don't like it?  Tough.  Like you said in one of your last pieces of
drivel, don't read it.
-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was
for questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem
stupid to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what
questions are good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good
for the questions
being asked on this list then don't answer.
I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange 

RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Ely, Don
Give Don TS access to your servers and he'd be glad to fix it.  On the flip
side, TS access isn't required, I could get access myself...  VBEG 

-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

You know, for just a minute, just a fleeting minute, I sympathized with you
Sam.

You original comeback to Gary was thought out well, communicated well, and
tugged at my heart.

Of course now, you have gone and called people names and are doing to Gary
the same thing that Gary did to you, which was upsetting to you.

Is this what you teach your Special Ed children?  That getting angry and
saying mean and nasty things about a person is ok if they did it to you
first?

Hey, I totally understand your frustration.  Someone's breathing down you
neck, expecting you to get this server up and running.  I understand you
wear many different Hats, most people on this list do.  But, I don't
understand how you choose to do the same thing to Gary, that has inflicted
you with such pain; you should know better.

I honestly wish I could answer your question for you, but I'm afraid I'm not
sure what the question was now, but I doubt I could, as you were asking
something fairly advanced.  I suggest you do one of the following three
things at this point:

1).  Go to www.microsoft.com and research.  Search through the Knowledge
Base on pertinent keywords to your problem.  Try many different words
though, as MS may have your problem filed in a strange and weird way.

2).  Call PSS.  This will cost you about $300 I believe.  But those people
will be extremely helpful (and nice) and will be able to tell you how to
accomplish what you need to.

3).  Go to your boss, tell him/her that you cannot do the Exchange Admin job
and suggest they hire a Contractor for the problems.  You may even find a
Contractor that will donate his time to your non-profit organization, if you
promise to give him a letter detailing the amount of time he has spent
working on your problems for the time you employ him.  This way he can take
that as a tax deductible item in his filings next year.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you
know Exchange??  (what a dork!)

I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much.  I
think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself
by being the best at a computer software.  

Get a life.looser boy!!!


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time.  

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.  

Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still
am, sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like
you. You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and
I'll be nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with
a complete expectation that someone else is going to do even the most
basic research for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone
like me pissed at you.

You don't like it?  Tough.  Like you said in one of your last pieces of
drivel, don't read it.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was
for questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem
stupid to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what
questions are good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good

RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Midgley, Ian
I think it was the M: drive question which lit the touchpaper. You need to
be familiar with the Exchange 2000 FAQ (its not very long) and the Appendix
C *is* the M: drive. Keep at it.  In a few years time you'll be helping
everyone else (or getting cross with them for not knowing things that should
be obvious grin).

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 August 2003 14:32
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thank you so much.  I was getting discouraged.  I really do try to do the
leg work before asking and I don't blame this list for asking me to at
least do that.  

Thanks for your kind words.

I apologize to anyone I might have offended.  



-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John (OIG/OMP) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Samantha, 

This seems to happen all the time.  It happened to me when I first started
learning exchange.  What I've gotten out of it, is don't let one negative
response stop you from still posting on this list.  You are absolutely
right, this list is to be used as a question/answer type of list.  Or be
pointed in the right direction.  I think what Tony was trying to say was
that instead of just asking the question, maybe trying to research it first?
Maybe you are.  Who knows we aren't sitting right next to you when you post.
But sometimes it may appear like you're just looking for people to do your
leg work for you.  Maybe if you post what you've done so far before you post
might give people on here a better understanding that you're trying to do
the legwork but aren't finding any answers. But DO NOT get turned off by one
response on this list.  Keep posting.  Just make sure you try to include
what you've done so far when asking questions.  Just trying to help you out.
Because I know how it was when I was first trying to learn exchange.  

_
John Bowles
Exchange Engineer
OIG/HHS
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was for
questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem stupid
to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are
good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good for the questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I wear
many hats here in the name of special education children and I don't have
time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read books on
Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past few weeks
and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this list.I
wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like yourself, I will look
to people like yourself who know this stuff backwards and forwards to give
some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and am
doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social event for
buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books on 
it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would M:icrosoft

put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What   is
that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus scan
it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Christopher Hummert
Everyone, it's time for this picture:
http://www.noghri.net/drunkenforums/imagemacros/retardarguing.jpg 
(Work safe)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You know, for just a minute, just a fleeting minute, I sympathized with
you Sam.

You original comeback to Gary was thought out well, communicated well,
and tugged at my heart.

Of course now, you have gone and called people names and are doing to
Gary the same thing that Gary did to you, which was upsetting to you.

Is this what you teach your Special Ed children?  That getting angry and
saying mean and nasty things about a person is ok if they did it to you
first?

Hey, I totally understand your frustration.  Someone's breathing down
you neck, expecting you to get this server up and running.  I understand
you wear many different Hats, most people on this list do.  But, I don't
understand how you choose to do the same thing to Gary, that has
inflicted you with such pain; you should know better.

I honestly wish I could answer your question for you, but I'm afraid I'm
not sure what the question was now, but I doubt I could, as you were
asking something fairly advanced.  I suggest you do one of the following
three things at this point:

1).  Go to www.microsoft.com and research.  Search through the Knowledge
Base on pertinent keywords to your problem.  Try many different words
though, as MS may have your problem filed in a strange and weird way.

2).  Call PSS.  This will cost you about $300 I believe.  But those
people will be extremely helpful (and nice) and will be able to tell you
how to accomplish what you need to.

3).  Go to your boss, tell him/her that you cannot do the Exchange Admin
job and suggest they hire a Contractor for the problems.  You may even
find a Contractor that will donate his time to your non-profit
organization, if you promise to give him a letter detailing the amount
of time he has spent working on your problems for the time you employ
him.  This way he can take that as a tax deductible item in his filings
next year.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you
know Exchange??  (what a dork!)

I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much.  I
think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself
by being the best at a computer software.  

Get a life.looser boy!!!


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time.  

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.  

Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still
am, sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like
you. You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and
I'll be nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with
a complete expectation that someone else is going to do even the most
basic research for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone
like me pissed at you.

You don't like it?  Tough.  Like you said in one of your last pieces of
drivel, don't read it.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was
for questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem
stupid to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what
questions are good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too 

RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Ely, Don
It was me using my telepathic, ninja, email skeelz...  :P 

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Who started this anyways?


From: Bob Sadler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 10:47:58 -0500

You know, for just a minute, just a fleeting minute, I sympathized with you
Sam.

You original comeback to Gary was thought out well, communicated well, and
tugged at my heart.

Of course now, you have gone and called people names and are doing to Gary
the same thing that Gary did to you, which was upsetting to you.

Is this what you teach your Special Ed children?  That getting angry and
saying mean and nasty things about a person is ok if they did it to you
first?

Hey, I totally understand your frustration.  Someone's breathing down you
neck, expecting you to get this server up and running.  I understand you
wear many different Hats, most people on this list do.  But, I don't
understand how you choose to do the same thing to Gary, that has inflicted
you with such pain; you should know better.

I honestly wish I could answer your question for you, but I'm afraid I'm not
sure what the question was now, but I doubt I could, as you were asking
something fairly advanced.  I suggest you do one of the following three
things at this point:

1).  Go to www.microsoft.com and research.  Search through the Knowledge
Base on pertinent keywords to your problem.  Try many different words
though, as MS may have your problem filed in a strange and weird way.

2).  Call PSS.  This will cost you about $300 I believe.  But those people
will be extremely helpful (and nice) and will be able to tell you how to
accomplish what you need to.

3).  Go to your boss, tell him/her that you cannot do the Exchange Admin job
and suggest they hire a Contractor for the problems.  You may even find a
Contractor that will donate his time to your non-profit organization, if you
promise to give him a letter detailing the amount of time he has spent
working on your problems for the time you employ him.  This way he can take
that as a tax deductible item in his filings next year.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you know
Exchange??  (what a dork!)

I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much.  I think
you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself by being
the best at a computer software.

Get a life.looser boy!!!


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time.

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.

Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still am,
sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like you.
You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and I'll be
nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with a complete
expectation that someone else is going to do even the most basic research
for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone like me pissed at you.

You don't like it?  Tough.  Like you said in one of your last pieces of
drivel, don't read it.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was for
questions.  Maybe the questions asked by 

RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Bowles, John (OIG/OMP)
That's pretty funny.  This is good comic relief now.

_
John Bowles
Exchange Engineer
OIG/HHS
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



Who started this anyways?


From: Bob Sadler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 10:47:58 -0500

You know, for just a minute, just a fleeting minute, I sympathized with
you Sam.

You original comeback to Gary was thought out well, communicated well,
and tugged at my heart.

Of course now, you have gone and called people names and are doing to
Gary the same thing that Gary did to you, which was upsetting to you.

Is this what you teach your Special Ed children?  That getting angry and
saying mean and nasty things about a person is ok if they did it to you
first?

Hey, I totally understand your frustration.  Someone's breathing down
you neck, expecting you to get this server up and running.  I understand
you wear many different Hats, most people on this list do.  But, I don't
understand how you choose to do the same thing to Gary, that has
inflicted you with such pain; you should know better.

I honestly wish I could answer your question for you, but I'm afraid I'm
not sure what the question was now, but I doubt I could, as you were
asking something fairly advanced.  I suggest you do one of the following
three things at this point:

1).  Go to www.microsoft.com and research.  Search through the Knowledge
Base on pertinent keywords to your problem.  Try many different words
though, as MS may have your problem filed in a strange and weird way.

2).  Call PSS.  This will cost you about $300 I believe.  But those
people will be extremely helpful (and nice) and will be able to tell you
how to accomplish what you need to.

3).  Go to your boss, tell him/her that you cannot do the Exchange Admin
job and suggest they hire a Contractor for the problems.  You may even
find a Contractor that will donate his time to your non-profit
organization, if you promise to give him a letter detailing the amount
of time he has spent working on your problems for the time you employ
him.  This way he can take that as a tax deductible item in his filings
next year.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you
know Exchange??  (what a dork!)

I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much.  I
think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself
by being the best at a computer software.

Get a life.looser boy!!!


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time.

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.

Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still
am, sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like
you. You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and
I'll be nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with
a complete expectation that someone else is going to do even the most
basic research for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone
like me pissed at you.

You don't like it?  Tough.  Like you said in one of your last pieces of
drivel, don't read it.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care 

RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Scott Force
full circle

So what is the M: drive?

/full circle

Sorry, I couldn't resist.  


 Who started this anyways?
 
 
 From: Bob Sadler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 10:47:58 -0500
 
 You know, for just a minute, just a fleeting minute, I sympathized with
 you Sam.
 
 You original comeback to Gary was thought out well, communicated well,
 and tugged at my heart.
 
 Of course now, you have gone and called people names and are doing to
 Gary the same thing that Gary did to you, which was upsetting to you.
 
 Is this what you teach your Special Ed children?  That getting angry and
 saying mean and nasty things about a person is ok if they did it to you
 first?
 
 Hey, I totally understand your frustration.  Someone's breathing down
 you neck, expecting you to get this server up and running.  I understand
 you wear many different Hats, most people on this list do.  But, I don't
 understand how you choose to do the same thing to Gary, that has
 inflicted you with such pain; you should know better.
 
 I honestly wish I could answer your question for you, but I'm afraid I'm
 not sure what the question was now, but I doubt I could, as you were
 asking something fairly advanced.  I suggest you do one of the following
 three things at this point:
 
 1).  Go to www.microsoft.com and research.  Search through the Knowledge
 Base on pertinent keywords to your problem.  Try many different words
 though, as MS may have your problem filed in a strange and weird way.
 
 2).  Call PSS.  This will cost you about $300 I believe.  But those
 people will be extremely helpful (and nice) and will be able to tell you
 how to accomplish what you need to.
 
 3).  Go to your boss, tell him/her that you cannot do the Exchange Admin
 job and suggest they hire a Contractor for the problems.  You may even
 find a Contractor that will donate his time to your non-profit
 organization, if you promise to give him a letter detailing the amount
 of time he has spent working on your problems for the time you employ
 him.  This way he can take that as a tax deductible item in his filings
 next year.
 
 
 
 Bob Sadler
 City of Leawood, KS, USA
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:39 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
 
 
 Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you
 know Exchange??  (what a dork!)
 
 I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much.  I
 think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself
 by being the best at a computer software.
 
 Get a life.looser boy!!!
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
 
 
 We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time.
 
 I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
 messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
 offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
 sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
 technical arena know what I know and/or can do.
 
 Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still
 am, sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like
 you. You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and
 I'll be nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with
 a complete expectation that someone else is going to do even the most
 basic research for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone
 like me pissed at you.
 
 You don't like it?  Tough.  Like you said in one of your last pieces of
 drivel, don't read it.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
 
 
 See, this is what I am talking about.
 
 You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!
 
 LOL
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
 
 
 We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
 
 
 Thanks Tony for your advice.
 
 Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was
 for questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem
 stupid to you, 

RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Bowles, John (OIG/OMP)
Chris, that's a great picture.  Maybe we all should take a look at that one and see 
how retarded we actually are.

_
John Bowles
Exchange Engineer
OIG/HHS
W. 202.690.6342
C.  202.359.7159
F.  202.690.7446
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Everyone, it's time for this picture:
http://www.noghri.net/drunkenforums/imagemacros/retardarguing.jpg 
(Work safe)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You know, for just a minute, just a fleeting minute, I sympathized with
you Sam.

You original comeback to Gary was thought out well, communicated well,
and tugged at my heart.

Of course now, you have gone and called people names and are doing to
Gary the same thing that Gary did to you, which was upsetting to you.

Is this what you teach your Special Ed children?  That getting angry and
saying mean and nasty things about a person is ok if they did it to you
first?

Hey, I totally understand your frustration.  Someone's breathing down
you neck, expecting you to get this server up and running.  I understand
you wear many different Hats, most people on this list do.  But, I don't
understand how you choose to do the same thing to Gary, that has
inflicted you with such pain; you should know better.

I honestly wish I could answer your question for you, but I'm afraid I'm
not sure what the question was now, but I doubt I could, as you were
asking something fairly advanced.  I suggest you do one of the following
three things at this point:

1).  Go to www.microsoft.com and research.  Search through the Knowledge
Base on pertinent keywords to your problem.  Try many different words
though, as MS may have your problem filed in a strange and weird way.

2).  Call PSS.  This will cost you about $300 I believe.  But those
people will be extremely helpful (and nice) and will be able to tell you
how to accomplish what you need to.

3).  Go to your boss, tell him/her that you cannot do the Exchange Admin
job and suggest they hire a Contractor for the problems.  You may even
find a Contractor that will donate his time to your non-profit
organization, if you promise to give him a letter detailing the amount
of time he has spent working on your problems for the time you employ
him.  This way he can take that as a tax deductible item in his filings
next year.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you
know Exchange??  (what a dork!)

I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much.  I
think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself
by being the best at a computer software.  

Get a life.looser boy!!!


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time.  

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.  

Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still
am, sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like
you. You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and
I'll be nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with
a complete expectation that someone else is going to do even the most
basic research for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone
like me pissed at you.

You don't like it?  Tough.  Like you said in one of your last pieces of
drivel, don't read it.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original 

RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Thakkar, Nick
That's harsh..

Nick Thakkar
 

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Everyone, it's time for this picture:
http://www.noghri.net/drunkenforums/imagemacros/retardarguing.jpg 
(Work safe)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You know, for just a minute, just a fleeting minute, I sympathized with
you Sam.

You original comeback to Gary was thought out well, communicated well,
and tugged at my heart.

Of course now, you have gone and called people names and are doing to
Gary the same thing that Gary did to you, which was upsetting to you.

Is this what you teach your Special Ed children?  That getting angry and
saying mean and nasty things about a person is ok if they did it to you
first?

Hey, I totally understand your frustration.  Someone's breathing down
you neck, expecting you to get this server up and running.  I understand
you wear many different Hats, most people on this list do.  But, I don't
understand how you choose to do the same thing to Gary, that has
inflicted you with such pain; you should know better.

I honestly wish I could answer your question for you, but I'm afraid I'm
not sure what the question was now, but I doubt I could, as you were
asking something fairly advanced.  I suggest you do one of the following
three things at this point:

1).  Go to www.microsoft.com and research.  Search through the Knowledge
Base on pertinent keywords to your problem.  Try many different words
though, as MS may have your problem filed in a strange and weird way.

2).  Call PSS.  This will cost you about $300 I believe.  But those
people will be extremely helpful (and nice) and will be able to tell you
how to accomplish what you need to.

3).  Go to your boss, tell him/her that you cannot do the Exchange Admin
job and suggest they hire a Contractor for the problems.  You may even
find a Contractor that will donate his time to your non-profit
organization, if you promise to give him a letter detailing the amount
of time he has spent working on your problems for the time you employ
him.  This way he can take that as a tax deductible item in his filings
next year.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you
know Exchange??  (what a dork!)

I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much.  I
think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself
by being the best at a computer software.  

Get a life.looser boy!!!


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time.  

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.  

Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still
am, sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like
you. You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and
I'll be nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with
a complete expectation that someone else is going to do even the most
basic research for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone
like me pissed at you.

You don't like it?  Tough.  Like you said in one of your last pieces of
drivel, don't read it.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this 

RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Christopher Hummert
But it's very true

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thakkar, Nick
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


That's harsh..

Nick Thakkar
 

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Everyone, it's time for this picture:
http://www.noghri.net/drunkenforums/imagemacros/retardarguing.jpg 
(Work safe)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You know, for just a minute, just a fleeting minute, I sympathized with
you Sam.

You original comeback to Gary was thought out well, communicated well,
and tugged at my heart.

Of course now, you have gone and called people names and are doing to
Gary the same thing that Gary did to you, which was upsetting to you.

Is this what you teach your Special Ed children?  That getting angry and
saying mean and nasty things about a person is ok if they did it to you
first?

Hey, I totally understand your frustration.  Someone's breathing down
you neck, expecting you to get this server up and running.  I understand
you wear many different Hats, most people on this list do.  But, I don't
understand how you choose to do the same thing to Gary, that has
inflicted you with such pain; you should know better.

I honestly wish I could answer your question for you, but I'm afraid I'm
not sure what the question was now, but I doubt I could, as you were
asking something fairly advanced.  I suggest you do one of the following
three things at this point:

1).  Go to www.microsoft.com and research.  Search through the Knowledge
Base on pertinent keywords to your problem.  Try many different words
though, as MS may have your problem filed in a strange and weird way.

2).  Call PSS.  This will cost you about $300 I believe.  But those
people will be extremely helpful (and nice) and will be able to tell you
how to accomplish what you need to.

3).  Go to your boss, tell him/her that you cannot do the Exchange Admin
job and suggest they hire a Contractor for the problems.  You may even
find a Contractor that will donate his time to your non-profit
organization, if you promise to give him a letter detailing the amount
of time he has spent working on your problems for the time you employ
him.  This way he can take that as a tax deductible item in his filings
next year.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you
know Exchange??  (what a dork!)

I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much.  I
think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself
by being the best at a computer software.  

Get a life.looser boy!!!


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time.  

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.  

Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still
am, sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like
you. You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and
I'll be nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with
a complete expectation that someone else is going to do even the most
basic research for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone
like me pissed at you.

You don't like it?  Tough.  Like you said in one of your last pieces of
drivel, don't read it.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.


RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Bridges, Samantha
Sorry Bobyou are absolutely right.  I promise to remain calmpeople picking on 
less educated and less fortunate people always gets to me.

Thanks for making me see the light.

Sam

-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You know, for just a minute, just a fleeting minute, I sympathized with
you Sam.

You original comeback to Gary was thought out well, communicated well,
and tugged at my heart.

Of course now, you have gone and called people names and are doing to
Gary the same thing that Gary did to you, which was upsetting to you.

Is this what you teach your Special Ed children?  That getting angry and
saying mean and nasty things about a person is ok if they did it to you
first?

Hey, I totally understand your frustration.  Someone's breathing down
you neck, expecting you to get this server up and running.  I understand
you wear many different Hats, most people on this list do.  But, I don't
understand how you choose to do the same thing to Gary, that has
inflicted you with such pain; you should know better.

I honestly wish I could answer your question for you, but I'm afraid I'm
not sure what the question was now, but I doubt I could, as you were
asking something fairly advanced.  I suggest you do one of the following
three things at this point:

1).  Go to www.microsoft.com and research.  Search through the Knowledge
Base on pertinent keywords to your problem.  Try many different words
though, as MS may have your problem filed in a strange and weird way.

2).  Call PSS.  This will cost you about $300 I believe.  But those
people will be extremely helpful (and nice) and will be able to tell you
how to accomplish what you need to.

3).  Go to your boss, tell him/her that you cannot do the Exchange Admin
job and suggest they hire a Contractor for the problems.  You may even
find a Contractor that will donate his time to your non-profit
organization, if you promise to give him a letter detailing the amount
of time he has spent working on your problems for the time you employ
him.  This way he can take that as a tax deductible item in his filings
next year.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you
know Exchange??  (what a dork!)

I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much.  I
think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself
by being the best at a computer software.  

Get a life.looser boy!!!


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time.  

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.  

Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still
am, sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like
you. You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and
I'll be nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with
a complete expectation that someone else is going to do even the most
basic research for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone
like me pissed at you.

You don't like it?  Tough.  Like you said in one of your last pieces of
drivel, don't read it.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was
for questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem
stupid to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what
questions are good/helpful 

RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Edgington, Jeff
But the real question is... Did you go and research the M drive and get
the answer to your question... if you didn't, then you've REALLY wasted
time.  :)




-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Sorry Bobyou are absolutely right.  I promise to remain
calmpeople picking on less educated and less fortunate people always
gets to me.

Thanks for making me see the light.

Sam

-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You know, for just a minute, just a fleeting minute, I sympathized with
you Sam.

You original comeback to Gary was thought out well, communicated well,
and tugged at my heart.

Of course now, you have gone and called people names and are doing to
Gary the same thing that Gary did to you, which was upsetting to you.

Is this what you teach your Special Ed children?  That getting angry and
saying mean and nasty things about a person is ok if they did it to you
first?

Hey, I totally understand your frustration.  Someone's breathing down
you neck, expecting you to get this server up and running.  I understand
you wear many different Hats, most people on this list do.  But, I don't
understand how you choose to do the same thing to Gary, that has
inflicted you with such pain; you should know better.

I honestly wish I could answer your question for you, but I'm afraid I'm
not sure what the question was now, but I doubt I could, as you were
asking something fairly advanced.  I suggest you do one of the following
three things at this point:

1).  Go to www.microsoft.com and research.  Search through the Knowledge
Base on pertinent keywords to your problem.  Try many different words
though, as MS may have your problem filed in a strange and weird way.

2).  Call PSS.  This will cost you about $300 I believe.  But those
people will be extremely helpful (and nice) and will be able to tell you
how to accomplish what you need to.

3).  Go to your boss, tell him/her that you cannot do the Exchange Admin
job and suggest they hire a Contractor for the problems.  You may even
find a Contractor that will donate his time to your non-profit
organization, if you promise to give him a letter detailing the amount
of time he has spent working on your problems for the time you employ
him.  This way he can take that as a tax deductible item in his filings
next year.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you
know Exchange??  (what a dork!)

I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much.  I
think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself
by being the best at a computer software.  

Get a life.looser boy!!!


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time.  

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.  

Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still
am, sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like
you. You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and
I'll be nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with
a complete expectation that someone else is going to do even the most
basic research for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone
like me pissed at you.

You don't like it?  Tough.  Like you said in one of your last pieces of
drivel, don't read it.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 

Netdiag kerberos ticket error

2003-08-18 Thread Woodruff, Michael
Aside from Samanthas problem, I am running netdiag form my soon to be
Exchange 2k3 box.  Its running Win2k3.  All tests pass except the
Kerberos Test.  Here is the error...


Kerberos test. . . . . . . . . . . : Failed
Found DC 'Domain Controller' in domain 'Domain'.
[FATAL] Kerberos does not have a ticket for
host/servername.domain.com.

The articles on KB do not reflect my problem.  I do not have any event
entries or errors anywhere.  I seen from a post on Google that the
problem was a bug with netdiag and I seen the Q244474 article on KB, but
it also states other errors which I do not receive so I am weary about
making those changes.  Thanks.

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Bridges, Samantha
No I did not get an answer regarding the M: drive.  And Yes this has been a waste of 
my time and many others.  

Bye, bye.



-Original Message-
From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


But the real question is... Did you go and research the M drive and get
the answer to your question... if you didn't, then you've REALLY wasted
time.  :)




-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Sorry Bobyou are absolutely right.  I promise to remain
calmpeople picking on less educated and less fortunate people always
gets to me.

Thanks for making me see the light.

Sam

-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You know, for just a minute, just a fleeting minute, I sympathized with
you Sam.

You original comeback to Gary was thought out well, communicated well,
and tugged at my heart.

Of course now, you have gone and called people names and are doing to
Gary the same thing that Gary did to you, which was upsetting to you.

Is this what you teach your Special Ed children?  That getting angry and
saying mean and nasty things about a person is ok if they did it to you
first?

Hey, I totally understand your frustration.  Someone's breathing down
you neck, expecting you to get this server up and running.  I understand
you wear many different Hats, most people on this list do.  But, I don't
understand how you choose to do the same thing to Gary, that has
inflicted you with such pain; you should know better.

I honestly wish I could answer your question for you, but I'm afraid I'm
not sure what the question was now, but I doubt I could, as you were
asking something fairly advanced.  I suggest you do one of the following
three things at this point:

1).  Go to www.microsoft.com and research.  Search through the Knowledge
Base on pertinent keywords to your problem.  Try many different words
though, as MS may have your problem filed in a strange and weird way.

2).  Call PSS.  This will cost you about $300 I believe.  But those
people will be extremely helpful (and nice) and will be able to tell you
how to accomplish what you need to.

3).  Go to your boss, tell him/her that you cannot do the Exchange Admin
job and suggest they hire a Contractor for the problems.  You may even
find a Contractor that will donate his time to your non-profit
organization, if you promise to give him a letter detailing the amount
of time he has spent working on your problems for the time you employ
him.  This way he can take that as a tax deductible item in his filings
next year.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you
know Exchange??  (what a dork!)

I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much.  I
think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself
by being the best at a computer software.  

Get a life.looser boy!!!


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time.  

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.  

Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still
am, sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like
you. You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and
I'll be nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with
a complete expectation that someone else is going to do even the most
basic research for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone
like me pissed at you.

You don't like it?  Tough.  Like you said in one of your last pieces of
drivel, don't read it.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-

RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Slinger, Gary
You're missing the point - Jeff didn't just ask if you'd got an answer, he
asked if you'd gone and done research.  The answer HAS already been given in
this thread, anyways.

Read this:

http://www.swinc.com/resource/e2kfaq_appxc.htm 

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 12:05
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

No I did not get an answer regarding the M: drive.  And Yes this has been a
waste of my time and many others.  

Bye, bye.



-Original Message-
From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


But the real question is... Did you go and research the M drive and get the
answer to your question... if you didn't, then you've REALLY wasted time.
:)




-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Sorry Bobyou are absolutely right.  I promise to remain
calmpeople picking on less educated and less fortunate people always
gets to me.

Thanks for making me see the light.

Sam

-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You know, for just a minute, just a fleeting minute, I sympathized with
you Sam.

You original comeback to Gary was thought out well, communicated well,
and tugged at my heart.

Of course now, you have gone and called people names and are doing to
Gary the same thing that Gary did to you, which was upsetting to you.

Is this what you teach your Special Ed children?  That getting angry and
saying mean and nasty things about a person is ok if they did it to you
first?

Hey, I totally understand your frustration.  Someone's breathing down
you neck, expecting you to get this server up and running.  I understand
you wear many different Hats, most people on this list do.  But, I don't
understand how you choose to do the same thing to Gary, that has
inflicted you with such pain; you should know better.

I honestly wish I could answer your question for you, but I'm afraid I'm
not sure what the question was now, but I doubt I could, as you were
asking something fairly advanced.  I suggest you do one of the following
three things at this point:

1).  Go to www.microsoft.com and research.  Search through the Knowledge
Base on pertinent keywords to your problem.  Try many different words
though, as MS may have your problem filed in a strange and weird way.

2).  Call PSS.  This will cost you about $300 I believe.  But those
people will be extremely helpful (and nice) and will be able to tell you
how to accomplish what you need to.

3).  Go to your boss, tell him/her that you cannot do the Exchange Admin
job and suggest they hire a Contractor for the problems.  You may even
find a Contractor that will donate his time to your non-profit
organization, if you promise to give him a letter detailing the amount
of time he has spent working on your problems for the time you employ
him.  This way he can take that as a tax deductible item in his filings
next year.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you
know Exchange??  (what a dork!)

I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much.  I
think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself
by being the best at a computer software.  

Get a life.looser boy!!!


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time.  

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.  

Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still
am, sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like
you. You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and
I'll be nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with
a complete expectation that someone else is going to do even the most
basic research for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone
like me pissed at you.

You 

RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Vincent Paul Wilton

Perhaps he's an experienced admin who doesn't understand why people
simply don't try and find answers. Next you'll be asking how do I start
my coffee maker. How many times do you complain at your network users
for not bothering to follow simple procedures like my PC is broken,
reboot it, still got the problem, ok, we'll look it it, yet you deploy
the same level of cluelessness here.

If you want these sorts of questions answered and/or expect/demand
replies, go pay someone.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 August 2003 15:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was
for questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem
stupid to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what
questions are good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good
for the questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I
wear many hats here in the name of special education children and I
don't have time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read
books on Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past
few weeks and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this
list.I wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like
yourself, I will look to people like yourself who know this stuff
backwards and forwards to give some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and
am doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social
event for buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books
on 
it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would
M:icrosoft

put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
From: PF: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What   is
that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Chris Scharff
Yes, you did get an answer on the M: drive. There isn't one. Ignore it.
There's absolutely nothing useful you could do or learn from it with
regards to troubleshooting. The only things you could do with the M:
drive would be to break things even further. 

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:05 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

No I did not get an answer regarding the M: drive.  And Yes this has
been a waste of my time and many others.  

Bye, bye.



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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Ely, Don
I like breaking things!!!  :P 

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 12:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Yes, you did get an answer on the M: drive. There isn't one. Ignore it.
There's absolutely nothing useful you could do or learn from it with regards
to troubleshooting. The only things you could do with the M:
drive would be to break things even further. 

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Monday, August
18, 2003 11:05 AM Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

No I did not get an answer regarding the M: drive.  And Yes this has been a
waste of my time and many others.  

Bye, bye.



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RE: PST version - revisited

2003-08-18 Thread Tony Hlabse
scanpst not working very well. What did it indicate?

From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:43:12 -0400
Ok not quite figured out.

PST's are on cd.

Copied to hdd, yes I remembered to uncheck RO.

Still not able to access them.

Tried scanpst.  Not working very well.

Any other ideas?

TIA,
Ali
-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT)
Posted At: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:48 AM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version
Subject: RE: PST version
Actually, I figured it out... I had opened them with ol2003beta a while 
back.

I'll just wait til the audit is over and re-install officexp.

b

thanks...

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:31 AM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version
Subject: Re: PST version
Maybe it isn't? Did you try running scanpst against it.

From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PST version
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 09:03:23 -0400
Had to rebuild... had office XP, now have office2k.

Trying to open my .PST.  When I try to add it to the service, a pop-up so
thoughtfully informs me:
Exchange.PST is not a personal folders store.
No, it is not checked read-only.

Ideas?

TIA,
Ali
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Re: move mailbox - strip off group permissions?

2003-08-18 Thread Tony Hlabse
Maybe they were logged in at the time you moved them

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Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:00:47 -0400
I am seeing some weird stuff. We moved a bunch of mailboxes from one
Exchange 2000 server to another Exchange 2000 server (within the same
org, within the same Admin group).
All of a sudden we are getting calls that users can't access some common
mailboxes. These users are members of special groups that were given
full mailbox access permission to those common mailboxes. For some
reason these group permissions were stripped off during the mailbox
move. I could never imagine something like this. How is it possible?
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RE: PST version - revisited

2003-08-18 Thread Ben Winzenz
Remember that OL2003 creates a different type of PST (Unicode format)
that cannot be read by other versions of Outlook.  Could it be that when
you opened the PST originally from within OL2003, you chose to change
the format?  If so, you will have to open it with OL2003 again.  If OLXP
will not open it, I would try that next (open with OL2003 Beta) 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:43 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: PST version
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


Ok not quite figured out.

PST's are on cd.

Copied to hdd, yes I remembered to uncheck RO.

Still not able to access them.

Tried scanpst.  Not working very well.

Any other ideas?

TIA,
Ali

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT)
Posted At: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:48 AM Posted To: List - Exchange
Server List
Conversation: PST version
Subject: RE: PST version


Actually, I figured it out... I had opened them with ol2003beta a while
back.

I'll just wait til the audit is over and re-install officexp.

b

thanks...

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:31 AM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version
Subject: Re: PST version


Maybe it isn't? Did you try running scanpst against it.


From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PST version
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 09:03:23 -0400

Had to rebuild... had office XP, now have office2k.

Trying to open my .PST.  When I try to add it to the service, a pop-up
so 
thoughtfully informs me:
Exchange.PST is not a personal folders store.

No, it is not checked read-only.

Ideas?

TIA,
Ali

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RE: Help. Exchange 2000 and New Child Domain

2003-08-18 Thread Ray Beckwith
Thanks again Ed for the prompt response. It seems the RUS was the solution. By Monday 
morning when we tried again, everything was working as expected. 



Thanks...Ray

Thought for the day:
A good rule of thumb is if you've made it to thirty-five and your job still requires 
you to wear a name tag, you've made a serious vocational error.
--Dennis Miller 



-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Help. Exchange 2000 and New Child Domain


Without the RUS, objects don't get properly stamped with necessary mail
attributes.  I can't say how long you should wait.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Beckwith
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Help. Exchange 2000 and New Child Domain

Yes to both, although only about 20 minutes ago on the Recipient update
service. Am I now dealing with replication delay?



Thanks...Ray

Thought for the day:
A good rule of thumb is if you've made it to thirty-five and your job still
requires you to wear a name tag, you've made a serious vocational error.
--Dennis Miller 



-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Help. Exchange 2000 and New Child Domain


Also, did you create a recipient update service for that new domain?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Beckwith
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Help. Exchange 2000 and New Child Domain

I didn't have any luck in the archives or MSKB and I know this is probably a
simple question so, flame away if you must; I'm short on time and resources
and I hope someone will look kindly on me and offer some help or advice.

My situation: In order to support a new subsidiary company, we have created
a new child domain under our single domain forest which also contains our
Exchange 2000 organization. Everything is running in Exchange 2000 SP3
except the domain controllers which are all running SP4. 

My Problem: I can create users in the new domain in AD Users and Computers
including  creating the mailbox and configuring the mailbox properties. But
when I attempt to log that user in to Exchange with Outlook, I get The name
could not be resolved. The name could not be matched to a name in the
address list. Also, when I look in the GAL I don't see this user (we're
using the same GAL for now) and I don't see a mailbox in ESM in our
information store. 

Please if anyone can offer assistance, we would be extremely thankful.



Thanks...Ray

Thought for the day:
A good rule of thumb is if you've made it to thirty-five and your job still
requires you to wear a name tag, you've made a serious vocational error.
--Dennis Miller 



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RE: PST version - revisited

2003-08-18 Thread Ali Wilkes (IT)
The first time I ran it- that there were errors.  Ran it again on same pst - says 
there are 4 folders (not even close...).

Then I am able to open it, and there is one folder, Deleted Items.  *sigh*

I'm guessing what's in the log means from a scanpst perspective, I'm screwed.

Scanpst log file:
**Beginning NDB recovery

  **Attempting to open database

  **Attempting to validate header

!!Header NDB magic incorrect (read=, expected=4E444221)

  **Attempting to validate AMap

!!PMap page @17920: PTYPE mismatch (read 00, expected 83)
!!PMap page @17920: BID mismatch (read 0, expected 4600)
[...]
 **Attempting to rebuild BBT

**Attempting to scavenge for blocks

  **Attempting to rebuild NBT

**Attempting to scavenge for nodes

  **Attempting to validate BBT refcounts

  **Attempting to validate header NID high-water marks

**Beginning PST/OST recovery

  **Attempting to recover all top-level objects

  !!Message store missing PR_PST_PASSWORD
  !!Message store missing or invalid PR_RECORD_KEY
  !!Message store missing PR_DISPLAY_NAME
  !!Message store missing PR_IPM_SUBTREE_ENTRYID

  !!Receive folder table missing
  !!Receive folder table missing default message class

  !!Name-to-id map missing

  !!Search folder (nid=1E1) missing update queue

  !!Search activity list missing

  !!Missing template (nid=60D)

  !!Missing template (nid=60E)

  !!Missing template (nid=60F)

  !!Missing template (nid=610)

  !!Missing template (nid=692)

  !!Missing template (nid=671)

  !!Missing the outgoing queue

  !!Missing root folder

  !!Missing IPM_SUBTREE

  **Attempting to walk all folders

  **Attempting to locate any orphaned folders/messages

!!Adding folder (nid=8022) back to the database

  **Attempting to check top-level objects for consistency

  ??Deleting SDO

  **Updating folder hierarchy

**Attempting to fix original file

  **Attempting to copy back BBT

  **Attempting to copy back NBT


Microsoft (R) Inbox Repair Tool
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1995-1996. All rights reserved.

**Beginning NDB recovery

  **Attempting to open database

  **Attempting to validate header

  **Attempting to validate AMap

  **Attempting to validate BBT

  **Attempting to validate NBT

  **Attempting to validate BBT refcounts

  **Attempting to validate header NID high-water marks

**Beginning PST/OST recovery

  **Attempting to recover all top-level objects

  **Attempting to walk all folders

  **Attempting to locate any orphaned folders/messages

  **Attempting to check top-level objects for consistency

  **Updating folder hierarchy


Microsoft (R) Inbox Repair Tool
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1995-1996. All rights reserved.

  **Beginning NDB recovery

  **Attempting to open database

  **Attempting to validate header

  **Attempting to validate AMap

  **Attempting to validate BBT

  **Attempting to validate NBT

  **Attempting to validate BBT refcounts

  **Attempting to validate header NID high-water marks

**Beginning PST/OST recovery

  **Attempting to recover all top-level objects

  **Attempting to walk all folders

  **Attempting to locate any orphaned folders/messages

  **Attempting to check top-level objects for consistency

  **Updating folder hierarchy




-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 12:37 PM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


scanpst not working very well. What did it indicate?


From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:43:12 -0400

Ok not quite figured out.

PST's are on cd.

Copied to hdd, yes I remembered to uncheck RO.

Still not able to access them.

Tried scanpst.  Not working very well.

Any other ideas?

TIA,
Ali

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT)
Posted At: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:48 AM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version
Subject: RE: PST version


Actually, I figured it out... I had opened them with ol2003beta a while 
back.

I'll just wait til the audit is over and re-install officexp.

 b

thanks...

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:31 AM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version
Subject: Re: PST version


Maybe it isn't? Did you try running scanpst against it.


From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PST version
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 09:03:23 -0400

Had to rebuild... had office XP, now have office2k.

Trying to open my .PST.  When I try to add it to the service, a pop-up so
thoughtfully informs me:
Exchange.PST is not a personal 

RE: PST version - revisited

2003-08-18 Thread Ali Wilkes (IT)
Actually, I'm not so sure on that one anymore.  I had them open in office XP long 
after using the beta.  Burned them to cd, have tried opening them in ol2k and olxp, 
getting ... is not a personal store.

See other reply for text of scanpst log.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 12:45 PM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


Remember that OL2003 creates a different type of PST (Unicode format)
that cannot be read by other versions of Outlook.  Could it be that when
you opened the PST originally from within OL2003, you chose to change
the format?  If so, you will have to open it with OL2003 again.  If OLXP
will not open it, I would try that next (open with OL2003 Beta) 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:43 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: PST version
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


Ok not quite figured out.

PST's are on cd.

Copied to hdd, yes I remembered to uncheck RO.

Still not able to access them.

Tried scanpst.  Not working very well.

Any other ideas?

TIA,
Ali

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT)
Posted At: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:48 AM Posted To: List - Exchange
Server List
Conversation: PST version
Subject: RE: PST version


Actually, I figured it out... I had opened them with ol2003beta a while
back.

I'll just wait til the audit is over and re-install officexp.

b

thanks...

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:31 AM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version
Subject: Re: PST version


Maybe it isn't? Did you try running scanpst against it.


From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PST version
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 09:03:23 -0400

Had to rebuild... had office XP, now have office2k.

Trying to open my .PST.  When I try to add it to the service, a pop-up
so 
thoughtfully informs me:
Exchange.PST is not a personal folders store.

No, it is not checked read-only.

Ideas?

TIA,
Ali

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Hutchins, Mike
Yeah, like lance hasn't got better..lmao 

-Original Message-
From: Thakkar, Nick 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

That's harsh..

Nick Thakkar
 

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Everyone, it's time for this picture:
http://www.noghri.net/drunkenforums/imagemacros/retardarguing.jpg
(Work safe)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You know, for just a minute, just a fleeting minute, I sympathized with
you Sam.

You original comeback to Gary was thought out well, communicated well,
and tugged at my heart.

Of course now, you have gone and called people names and are doing to
Gary the same thing that Gary did to you, which was upsetting to you.

Is this what you teach your Special Ed children?  That getting angry and
saying mean and nasty things about a person is ok if they did it to you
first?

Hey, I totally understand your frustration.  Someone's breathing down
you neck, expecting you to get this server up and running.  I understand
you wear many different Hats, most people on this list do.  But, I don't
understand how you choose to do the same thing to Gary, that has
inflicted you with such pain; you should know better.

I honestly wish I could answer your question for you, but I'm afraid I'm
not sure what the question was now, but I doubt I could, as you were
asking something fairly advanced.  I suggest you do one of the following
three things at this point:

1).  Go to www.microsoft.com and research.  Search through the Knowledge
Base on pertinent keywords to your problem.  Try many different words
though, as MS may have your problem filed in a strange and weird way.

2).  Call PSS.  This will cost you about $300 I believe.  But those
people will be extremely helpful (and nice) and will be able to tell you
how to accomplish what you need to.

3).  Go to your boss, tell him/her that you cannot do the Exchange Admin
job and suggest they hire a Contractor for the problems.  You may even
find a Contractor that will donate his time to your non-profit
organization, if you promise to give him a letter detailing the amount
of time he has spent working on your problems for the time you employ
him.  This way he can take that as a tax deductible item in his filings
next year.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you
know Exchange??  (what a dork!)

I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much.  I
think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself
by being the best at a computer software.  

Get a life.looser boy!!!


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time.  

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.  

Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still
am, sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like
you. You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and
I'll be nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with
a complete expectation that someone else is going to do even the most
basic research for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone
like me pissed at you.

You don't like it?  Tough.  Like you said in one of your last pieces of
drivel, don't read it.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, 

RE: PST version - revisited

2003-08-18 Thread Ben Winzenz
Might also try running the pst19upg tool.  If it was an old file, this
upgrades it to a newer format.  Might help, might not.  A Google search
ought to give you some places to download it. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:50 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


The first time I ran it- that there were errors.  Ran it again on same
pst - says there are 4 folders (not even close...).

Then I am able to open it, and there is one folder, Deleted Items.
*sigh*

I'm guessing what's in the log means from a scanpst perspective, I'm
screwed.

Scanpst log file:
**Beginning NDB recovery

  **Attempting to open database

  **Attempting to validate header

!!Header NDB magic incorrect (read=, expected=4E444221)

  **Attempting to validate AMap

!!PMap page @17920: PTYPE mismatch (read 00, expected 83)
!!PMap page @17920: BID mismatch (read 0, expected 4600) [...]
**Attempting to rebuild BBT

**Attempting to scavenge for blocks

  **Attempting to rebuild NBT

**Attempting to scavenge for nodes

  **Attempting to validate BBT refcounts

  **Attempting to validate header NID high-water marks

**Beginning PST/OST recovery

  **Attempting to recover all top-level objects

  !!Message store missing PR_PST_PASSWORD
  !!Message store missing or invalid PR_RECORD_KEY
  !!Message store missing PR_DISPLAY_NAME
  !!Message store missing PR_IPM_SUBTREE_ENTRYID

  !!Receive folder table missing
  !!Receive folder table missing default message class

  !!Name-to-id map missing

  !!Search folder (nid=1E1) missing update queue

  !!Search activity list missing

  !!Missing template (nid=60D)

  !!Missing template (nid=60E)

  !!Missing template (nid=60F)

  !!Missing template (nid=610)

  !!Missing template (nid=692)

  !!Missing template (nid=671)

  !!Missing the outgoing queue

  !!Missing root folder

  !!Missing IPM_SUBTREE

  **Attempting to walk all folders

  **Attempting to locate any orphaned folders/messages

!!Adding folder (nid=8022) back to the database

  **Attempting to check top-level objects for consistency

  ??Deleting SDO

  **Updating folder hierarchy

**Attempting to fix original file

  **Attempting to copy back BBT

  **Attempting to copy back NBT


Microsoft (R) Inbox Repair Tool
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1995-1996. All rights reserved.

**Beginning NDB recovery

  **Attempting to open database

  **Attempting to validate header

  **Attempting to validate AMap

  **Attempting to validate BBT

  **Attempting to validate NBT

  **Attempting to validate BBT refcounts

  **Attempting to validate header NID high-water marks

**Beginning PST/OST recovery

  **Attempting to recover all top-level objects

  **Attempting to walk all folders

  **Attempting to locate any orphaned folders/messages

  **Attempting to check top-level objects for consistency

  **Updating folder hierarchy


Microsoft (R) Inbox Repair Tool
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1995-1996. All rights reserved.

  **Beginning NDB recovery

  **Attempting to open database

  **Attempting to validate header

  **Attempting to validate AMap

  **Attempting to validate BBT

  **Attempting to validate NBT

  **Attempting to validate BBT refcounts

  **Attempting to validate header NID high-water marks

**Beginning PST/OST recovery

  **Attempting to recover all top-level objects

  **Attempting to walk all folders

  **Attempting to locate any orphaned folders/messages

  **Attempting to check top-level objects for consistency

  **Updating folder hierarchy




-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Monday, August
18, 2003 12:37 PM Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


scanpst not working very well. What did it indicate?


From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:43:12 -0400

Ok not quite figured out.

PST's are on cd.

Copied to hdd, yes I remembered to uncheck RO.

Still not able to access them.

Tried scanpst.  Not working very well.

Any other ideas?

TIA,
Ali

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT)
Posted At: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:48 AM Posted To: List - Exchange
Server List
Conversation: PST version
Subject: RE: PST version


Actually, I figured it out... I had opened them with ol2003beta a while
back.

I'll just wait til the audit is over and re-install officexp.

 b

thanks...

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday,
August 14, 2003 9:31 AM Posted To: List - Exchange Server List

RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Thakkar, Nick
Lance is much worse...LOL

-Original Message-
From: Hutchins, Mike 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Yeah, like lance hasn't got better..lmao 

-Original Message-
From: Thakkar, Nick 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

That's harsh..

Nick Thakkar
 

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Everyone, it's time for this picture:
http://www.noghri.net/drunkenforums/imagemacros/retardarguing.jpg
(Work safe)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You know, for just a minute, just a fleeting minute, I sympathized with
you Sam.

You original comeback to Gary was thought out well, communicated well,
and tugged at my heart.

Of course now, you have gone and called people names and are doing to
Gary the same thing that Gary did to you, which was upsetting to you.

Is this what you teach your Special Ed children?  That getting angry and
saying mean and nasty things about a person is ok if they did it to you
first?

Hey, I totally understand your frustration.  Someone's breathing down
you neck, expecting you to get this server up and running.  I understand
you wear many different Hats, most people on this list do.  But, I don't
understand how you choose to do the same thing to Gary, that has
inflicted you with such pain; you should know better.

I honestly wish I could answer your question for you, but I'm afraid I'm
not sure what the question was now, but I doubt I could, as you were
asking something fairly advanced.  I suggest you do one of the following
three things at this point:

1).  Go to www.microsoft.com and research.  Search through the Knowledge
Base on pertinent keywords to your problem.  Try many different words
though, as MS may have your problem filed in a strange and weird way.

2).  Call PSS.  This will cost you about $300 I believe.  But those
people will be extremely helpful (and nice) and will be able to tell you
how to accomplish what you need to.

3).  Go to your boss, tell him/her that you cannot do the Exchange Admin
job and suggest they hire a Contractor for the problems.  You may even
find a Contractor that will donate his time to your non-profit
organization, if you promise to give him a letter detailing the amount
of time he has spent working on your problems for the time you employ
him.  This way he can take that as a tax deductible item in his filings
next year.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you
know Exchange??  (what a dork!)

I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much.  I
think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself
by being the best at a computer software.  

Get a life.looser boy!!!


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time.  

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.  

Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still
am, sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like
you. You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and
I'll be nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with
a complete expectation that someone else is going to do even the most
basic research for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone
like me pissed at you.

You don't like it?  Tough.  Like you said in one of your last pieces of
drivel, don't read it.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 

RE: PST version - revisited

2003-08-18 Thread Ali Wilkes (IT)
pst19upg fails instantly.  *sigh*.

Thanks tho... 

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 12:56 PM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


Might also try running the pst19upg tool.  If it was an old file, this
upgrades it to a newer format.  Might help, might not.  A Google search
ought to give you some places to download it. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:50 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


The first time I ran it- that there were errors.  Ran it again on same
pst - says there are 4 folders (not even close...).

Then I am able to open it, and there is one folder, Deleted Items.
*sigh*

I'm guessing what's in the log means from a scanpst perspective, I'm
screwed.

Scanpst log file:
**Beginning NDB recovery

  **Attempting to open database

  **Attempting to validate header

!!Header NDB magic incorrect (read=, expected=4E444221)

  **Attempting to validate AMap

!!PMap page @17920: PTYPE mismatch (read 00, expected 83)
!!PMap page @17920: BID mismatch (read 0, expected 4600) [...]
**Attempting to rebuild BBT

**Attempting to scavenge for blocks

  **Attempting to rebuild NBT

**Attempting to scavenge for nodes

  **Attempting to validate BBT refcounts

  **Attempting to validate header NID high-water marks

**Beginning PST/OST recovery

  **Attempting to recover all top-level objects

  !!Message store missing PR_PST_PASSWORD
  !!Message store missing or invalid PR_RECORD_KEY
  !!Message store missing PR_DISPLAY_NAME
  !!Message store missing PR_IPM_SUBTREE_ENTRYID

  !!Receive folder table missing
  !!Receive folder table missing default message class

  !!Name-to-id map missing

  !!Search folder (nid=1E1) missing update queue

  !!Search activity list missing

  !!Missing template (nid=60D)

  !!Missing template (nid=60E)

  !!Missing template (nid=60F)

  !!Missing template (nid=610)

  !!Missing template (nid=692)

  !!Missing template (nid=671)

  !!Missing the outgoing queue

  !!Missing root folder

  !!Missing IPM_SUBTREE

  **Attempting to walk all folders

  **Attempting to locate any orphaned folders/messages

!!Adding folder (nid=8022) back to the database

  **Attempting to check top-level objects for consistency

  ??Deleting SDO

  **Updating folder hierarchy

**Attempting to fix original file

  **Attempting to copy back BBT

  **Attempting to copy back NBT


Microsoft (R) Inbox Repair Tool
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1995-1996. All rights reserved.

**Beginning NDB recovery

  **Attempting to open database

  **Attempting to validate header

  **Attempting to validate AMap

  **Attempting to validate BBT

  **Attempting to validate NBT

  **Attempting to validate BBT refcounts

  **Attempting to validate header NID high-water marks

**Beginning PST/OST recovery

  **Attempting to recover all top-level objects

  **Attempting to walk all folders

  **Attempting to locate any orphaned folders/messages

  **Attempting to check top-level objects for consistency

  **Updating folder hierarchy


Microsoft (R) Inbox Repair Tool
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1995-1996. All rights reserved.

  **Beginning NDB recovery

  **Attempting to open database

  **Attempting to validate header

  **Attempting to validate AMap

  **Attempting to validate BBT

  **Attempting to validate NBT

  **Attempting to validate BBT refcounts

  **Attempting to validate header NID high-water marks

**Beginning PST/OST recovery

  **Attempting to recover all top-level objects

  **Attempting to walk all folders

  **Attempting to locate any orphaned folders/messages

  **Attempting to check top-level objects for consistency

  **Updating folder hierarchy




-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Monday, August
18, 2003 12:37 PM Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


scanpst not working very well. What did it indicate?


From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:43:12 -0400

Ok not quite figured out.

PST's are on cd.

Copied to hdd, yes I remembered to uncheck RO.

Still not able to access them.

Tried scanpst.  Not working very well.

Any other ideas?

TIA,
Ali

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT)
Posted At: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:48 AM Posted To: List - Exchange
Server List
Conversation: PST version
Subject: RE: PST version


Actually, I figured it out... I 

RE: PST version - revisited

2003-08-18 Thread Dryden, Karen
I know this sounds crazy, but clear the archive bit before you do the
copy.  There was some version of the pst that could not be opened unless
you did that prior to copying it.  That was documented, but it was
awhile ago.

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


pst19upg fails instantly.  *sigh*.

Thanks tho... 

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 12:56 PM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


Might also try running the pst19upg tool.  If it was an old file, this
upgrades it to a newer format.  Might help, might not.  A Google search
ought to give you some places to download it. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:50 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


The first time I ran it- that there were errors.  Ran it again on same
pst - says there are 4 folders (not even close...).

Then I am able to open it, and there is one folder, Deleted Items.
*sigh*

I'm guessing what's in the log means from a scanpst perspective, I'm
screwed.

Scanpst log file:
**Beginning NDB recovery

  **Attempting to open database

  **Attempting to validate header

!!Header NDB magic incorrect (read=, expected=4E444221)

  **Attempting to validate AMap

!!PMap page @17920: PTYPE mismatch (read 00, expected 83)
!!PMap page @17920: BID mismatch (read 0, expected 4600) [...]
**Attempting to rebuild BBT

**Attempting to scavenge for blocks

  **Attempting to rebuild NBT

**Attempting to scavenge for nodes

  **Attempting to validate BBT refcounts

  **Attempting to validate header NID high-water marks

**Beginning PST/OST recovery

  **Attempting to recover all top-level objects

  !!Message store missing PR_PST_PASSWORD
  !!Message store missing or invalid PR_RECORD_KEY
  !!Message store missing PR_DISPLAY_NAME
  !!Message store missing PR_IPM_SUBTREE_ENTRYID

  !!Receive folder table missing
  !!Receive folder table missing default message class

  !!Name-to-id map missing

  !!Search folder (nid=1E1) missing update queue

  !!Search activity list missing

  !!Missing template (nid=60D)

  !!Missing template (nid=60E)

  !!Missing template (nid=60F)

  !!Missing template (nid=610)

  !!Missing template (nid=692)

  !!Missing template (nid=671)

  !!Missing the outgoing queue

  !!Missing root folder

  !!Missing IPM_SUBTREE

  **Attempting to walk all folders

  **Attempting to locate any orphaned folders/messages

!!Adding folder (nid=8022) back to the database

  **Attempting to check top-level objects for consistency

  ??Deleting SDO

  **Updating folder hierarchy

**Attempting to fix original file

  **Attempting to copy back BBT

  **Attempting to copy back NBT


Microsoft (R) Inbox Repair Tool
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1995-1996. All rights reserved.

**Beginning NDB recovery

  **Attempting to open database

  **Attempting to validate header

  **Attempting to validate AMap

  **Attempting to validate BBT

  **Attempting to validate NBT

  **Attempting to validate BBT refcounts

  **Attempting to validate header NID high-water marks

**Beginning PST/OST recovery

  **Attempting to recover all top-level objects

  **Attempting to walk all folders

  **Attempting to locate any orphaned folders/messages

  **Attempting to check top-level objects for consistency

  **Updating folder hierarchy


Microsoft (R) Inbox Repair Tool
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1995-1996. All rights reserved.

  **Beginning NDB recovery

  **Attempting to open database

  **Attempting to validate header

  **Attempting to validate AMap

  **Attempting to validate BBT

  **Attempting to validate NBT

  **Attempting to validate BBT refcounts

  **Attempting to validate header NID high-water marks

**Beginning PST/OST recovery

  **Attempting to recover all top-level objects

  **Attempting to walk all folders

  **Attempting to locate any orphaned folders/messages

  **Attempting to check top-level objects for consistency

  **Updating folder hierarchy




-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Monday, August
18, 2003 12:37 PM Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


scanpst not working very well. What did it indicate?


From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:43:12 -0400

Ok not 

RE: PST version - revisited

2003-08-18 Thread Ali Wilkes (IT)
Hm... before copying would be rather difficult, as this is from a CD.

Tried removing the A after copying, didn't seem to help.

-Original Message-
From: Dryden, Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:11 PM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


I know this sounds crazy, but clear the archive bit before you do the
copy.  There was some version of the pst that could not be opened unless
you did that prior to copying it.  That was documented, but it was
awhile ago.

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


pst19upg fails instantly.  *sigh*.

Thanks tho... 

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 12:56 PM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


Might also try running the pst19upg tool.  If it was an old file, this
upgrades it to a newer format.  Might help, might not.  A Google search
ought to give you some places to download it. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:50 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


The first time I ran it- that there were errors.  Ran it again on same
pst - says there are 4 folders (not even close...).

Then I am able to open it, and there is one folder, Deleted Items.
*sigh*

I'm guessing what's in the log means from a scanpst perspective, I'm
screwed.

Scanpst log file:
**Beginning NDB recovery

  **Attempting to open database

  **Attempting to validate header

!!Header NDB magic incorrect (read=, expected=4E444221)

  **Attempting to validate AMap

!!PMap page @17920: PTYPE mismatch (read 00, expected 83)
!!PMap page @17920: BID mismatch (read 0, expected 4600) [...]
**Attempting to rebuild BBT

**Attempting to scavenge for blocks

  **Attempting to rebuild NBT

**Attempting to scavenge for nodes

  **Attempting to validate BBT refcounts

  **Attempting to validate header NID high-water marks

**Beginning PST/OST recovery

  **Attempting to recover all top-level objects

  !!Message store missing PR_PST_PASSWORD
  !!Message store missing or invalid PR_RECORD_KEY
  !!Message store missing PR_DISPLAY_NAME
  !!Message store missing PR_IPM_SUBTREE_ENTRYID

  !!Receive folder table missing
  !!Receive folder table missing default message class

  !!Name-to-id map missing

  !!Search folder (nid=1E1) missing update queue

  !!Search activity list missing

  !!Missing template (nid=60D)

  !!Missing template (nid=60E)

  !!Missing template (nid=60F)

  !!Missing template (nid=610)

  !!Missing template (nid=692)

  !!Missing template (nid=671)

  !!Missing the outgoing queue

  !!Missing root folder

  !!Missing IPM_SUBTREE

  **Attempting to walk all folders

  **Attempting to locate any orphaned folders/messages

!!Adding folder (nid=8022) back to the database

  **Attempting to check top-level objects for consistency

  ??Deleting SDO

  **Updating folder hierarchy

**Attempting to fix original file

  **Attempting to copy back BBT

  **Attempting to copy back NBT


Microsoft (R) Inbox Repair Tool
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1995-1996. All rights reserved.

**Beginning NDB recovery

  **Attempting to open database

  **Attempting to validate header

  **Attempting to validate AMap

  **Attempting to validate BBT

  **Attempting to validate NBT

  **Attempting to validate BBT refcounts

  **Attempting to validate header NID high-water marks

**Beginning PST/OST recovery

  **Attempting to recover all top-level objects

  **Attempting to walk all folders

  **Attempting to locate any orphaned folders/messages

  **Attempting to check top-level objects for consistency

  **Updating folder hierarchy


Microsoft (R) Inbox Repair Tool
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1995-1996. All rights reserved.

  **Beginning NDB recovery

  **Attempting to open database

  **Attempting to validate header

  **Attempting to validate AMap

  **Attempting to validate BBT

  **Attempting to validate NBT

  **Attempting to validate BBT refcounts

  **Attempting to validate header NID high-water marks

**Beginning PST/OST recovery

  **Attempting to recover all top-level objects

  **Attempting to walk all folders

  **Attempting to locate any orphaned folders/messages

  **Attempting to check top-level objects for consistency

  **Updating folder hierarchy




-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Monday, August
18, 2003 12:37 PM Posted To: List - Exchange 

RE: PST version - revisited

2003-08-18 Thread Martin Blackstone
Did you remove the R?  

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited

Hm... before copying would be rather difficult, as this is from a CD.

Tried removing the A after copying, didn't seem to help.

-Original Message-
From: Dryden, Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:11 PM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


I know this sounds crazy, but clear the archive bit before you do the
copy.  There was some version of the pst that could not be opened unless
you did that prior to copying it.  That was documented, but it was
awhile ago.

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


pst19upg fails instantly.  *sigh*.

Thanks tho... 

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 12:56 PM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


Might also try running the pst19upg tool.  If it was an old file, this
upgrades it to a newer format.  Might help, might not.  A Google search
ought to give you some places to download it. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:50 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


The first time I ran it- that there were errors.  Ran it again on same
pst - says there are 4 folders (not even close...).

Then I am able to open it, and there is one folder, Deleted Items.
*sigh*

I'm guessing what's in the log means from a scanpst perspective, I'm
screwed.

Scanpst log file:
**Beginning NDB recovery

  **Attempting to open database

  **Attempting to validate header

!!Header NDB magic incorrect (read=, expected=4E444221)

  **Attempting to validate AMap

!!PMap page @17920: PTYPE mismatch (read 00, expected 83)
!!PMap page @17920: BID mismatch (read 0, expected 4600) [...]
**Attempting to rebuild BBT

**Attempting to scavenge for blocks

  **Attempting to rebuild NBT

**Attempting to scavenge for nodes

  **Attempting to validate BBT refcounts

  **Attempting to validate header NID high-water marks

**Beginning PST/OST recovery

  **Attempting to recover all top-level objects

  !!Message store missing PR_PST_PASSWORD
  !!Message store missing or invalid PR_RECORD_KEY
  !!Message store missing PR_DISPLAY_NAME
  !!Message store missing PR_IPM_SUBTREE_ENTRYID

  !!Receive folder table missing
  !!Receive folder table missing default message class

  !!Name-to-id map missing

  !!Search folder (nid=1E1) missing update queue

  !!Search activity list missing

  !!Missing template (nid=60D)

  !!Missing template (nid=60E)

  !!Missing template (nid=60F)

  !!Missing template (nid=610)

  !!Missing template (nid=692)

  !!Missing template (nid=671)

  !!Missing the outgoing queue

  !!Missing root folder

  !!Missing IPM_SUBTREE

  **Attempting to walk all folders

  **Attempting to locate any orphaned folders/messages

!!Adding folder (nid=8022) back to the database

  **Attempting to check top-level objects for consistency

  ??Deleting SDO

  **Updating folder hierarchy

**Attempting to fix original file

  **Attempting to copy back BBT

  **Attempting to copy back NBT


Microsoft (R) Inbox Repair Tool
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1995-1996. All rights reserved.

**Beginning NDB recovery

  **Attempting to open database

  **Attempting to validate header

  **Attempting to validate AMap

  **Attempting to validate BBT

  **Attempting to validate NBT

  **Attempting to validate BBT refcounts

  **Attempting to validate header NID high-water marks

**Beginning PST/OST recovery

  **Attempting to recover all top-level objects

  **Attempting to walk all folders

  **Attempting to locate any orphaned folders/messages

  **Attempting to check top-level objects for consistency

  **Updating folder hierarchy


Microsoft (R) Inbox Repair Tool
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1995-1996. All rights reserved.

  **Beginning NDB recovery

  **Attempting to open database

  **Attempting to validate header

  **Attempting to validate AMap

  **Attempting to validate BBT

  **Attempting to validate NBT

  **Attempting to validate BBT refcounts

  **Attempting to validate header NID high-water marks

**Beginning PST/OST recovery

  **Attempting to recover all top-level objects

  **Attempting to walk all folders

  **Attempting to locate any orphaned folders/messages

  **Attempting to check top-level 

RE: PST version - revisited

2003-08-18 Thread Ali Wilkes (IT)
Yep.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:28 PM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


Did you remove the R?  

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited

Hm... before copying would be rather difficult, as this is from a CD.

Tried removing the A after copying, didn't seem to help.

-Original Message-
From: Dryden, Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:11 PM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


I know this sounds crazy, but clear the archive bit before you do the
copy.  There was some version of the pst that could not be opened unless
you did that prior to copying it.  That was documented, but it was
awhile ago.

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


pst19upg fails instantly.  *sigh*.

Thanks tho... 

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 12:56 PM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


Might also try running the pst19upg tool.  If it was an old file, this
upgrades it to a newer format.  Might help, might not.  A Google search
ought to give you some places to download it. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:50 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


The first time I ran it- that there were errors.  Ran it again on same
pst - says there are 4 folders (not even close...).

Then I am able to open it, and there is one folder, Deleted Items.
*sigh*

I'm guessing what's in the log means from a scanpst perspective, I'm
screwed.

Scanpst log file:
**Beginning NDB recovery

  **Attempting to open database

  **Attempting to validate header

!!Header NDB magic incorrect (read=, expected=4E444221)

  **Attempting to validate AMap

!!PMap page @17920: PTYPE mismatch (read 00, expected 83)
!!PMap page @17920: BID mismatch (read 0, expected 4600) [...]
**Attempting to rebuild BBT

**Attempting to scavenge for blocks

  **Attempting to rebuild NBT

**Attempting to scavenge for nodes

  **Attempting to validate BBT refcounts

  **Attempting to validate header NID high-water marks

**Beginning PST/OST recovery

  **Attempting to recover all top-level objects

  !!Message store missing PR_PST_PASSWORD
  !!Message store missing or invalid PR_RECORD_KEY
  !!Message store missing PR_DISPLAY_NAME
  !!Message store missing PR_IPM_SUBTREE_ENTRYID

  !!Receive folder table missing
  !!Receive folder table missing default message class

  !!Name-to-id map missing

  !!Search folder (nid=1E1) missing update queue

  !!Search activity list missing

  !!Missing template (nid=60D)

  !!Missing template (nid=60E)

  !!Missing template (nid=60F)

  !!Missing template (nid=610)

  !!Missing template (nid=692)

  !!Missing template (nid=671)

  !!Missing the outgoing queue

  !!Missing root folder

  !!Missing IPM_SUBTREE

  **Attempting to walk all folders

  **Attempting to locate any orphaned folders/messages

!!Adding folder (nid=8022) back to the database

  **Attempting to check top-level objects for consistency

  ??Deleting SDO

  **Updating folder hierarchy

**Attempting to fix original file

  **Attempting to copy back BBT

  **Attempting to copy back NBT


Microsoft (R) Inbox Repair Tool
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1995-1996. All rights reserved.

**Beginning NDB recovery

  **Attempting to open database

  **Attempting to validate header

  **Attempting to validate AMap

  **Attempting to validate BBT

  **Attempting to validate NBT

  **Attempting to validate BBT refcounts

  **Attempting to validate header NID high-water marks

**Beginning PST/OST recovery

  **Attempting to recover all top-level objects

  **Attempting to walk all folders

  **Attempting to locate any orphaned folders/messages

  **Attempting to check top-level objects for consistency

  **Updating folder hierarchy


Microsoft (R) Inbox Repair Tool
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1995-1996. All rights reserved.

  **Beginning NDB recovery

  **Attempting to open database

  **Attempting to validate header

  **Attempting to validate AMap

  **Attempting to validate BBT

  **Attempting to validate NBT

  **Attempting to validate BBT refcounts

  **Attempting to 

Re: PST version - revisited

2003-08-18 Thread Andy David
Did you bang your head against your desk?

- Original Message - 
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:31 PM
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


Yep.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:28 PM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


Did you remove the R?

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited

Hm... before copying would be rather difficult, as this is from a CD.

Tried removing the A after copying, didn't seem to help.

-Original Message-
From: Dryden, Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:11 PM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


I know this sounds crazy, but clear the archive bit before you do the
copy.  There was some version of the pst that could not be opened unless
you did that prior to copying it.  That was documented, but it was
awhile ago.

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


pst19upg fails instantly.  *sigh*.

Thanks tho...

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 12:56 PM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


Might also try running the pst19upg tool.  If it was an old file, this
upgrades it to a newer format.  Might help, might not.  A Google search
ought to give you some places to download it.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:50 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


The first time I ran it- that there were errors.  Ran it again on same
pst - says there are 4 folders (not even close...).

Then I am able to open it, and there is one folder, Deleted Items.
*sigh*

I'm guessing what's in the log means from a scanpst perspective, I'm
screwed.

Scanpst log file:
**Beginning NDB recovery

  **Attempting to open database

  **Attempting to validate header

!!Header NDB magic incorrect (read=, expected=4E444221)

  **Attempting to validate AMap

!!PMap page @17920: PTYPE mismatch (read 00, expected 83)
!!PMap page @17920: BID mismatch (read 0, expected 4600) [...]
**Attempting to rebuild BBT

**Attempting to scavenge for blocks

  **Attempting to rebuild NBT

**Attempting to scavenge for nodes

  **Attempting to validate BBT refcounts

  **Attempting to validate header NID high-water marks

**Beginning PST/OST recovery

  **Attempting to recover all top-level objects

  !!Message store missing PR_PST_PASSWORD
  !!Message store missing or invalid PR_RECORD_KEY
  !!Message store missing PR_DISPLAY_NAME
  !!Message store missing PR_IPM_SUBTREE_ENTRYID

  !!Receive folder table missing
  !!Receive folder table missing default message class

  !!Name-to-id map missing

  !!Search folder (nid=1E1) missing update queue

  !!Search activity list missing

  !!Missing template (nid=60D)

  !!Missing template (nid=60E)

  !!Missing template (nid=60F)

  !!Missing template (nid=610)

  !!Missing template (nid=692)

  !!Missing template (nid=671)

  !!Missing the outgoing queue

  !!Missing root folder

  !!Missing IPM_SUBTREE

  **Attempting to walk all folders

  **Attempting to locate any orphaned folders/messages

!!Adding folder (nid=8022) back to the database

  **Attempting to check top-level objects for consistency

  ??Deleting SDO

  **Updating folder hierarchy

**Attempting to fix original file

  **Attempting to copy back BBT

  **Attempting to copy back NBT


Microsoft (R) Inbox Repair Tool
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1995-1996. All rights reserved.

**Beginning NDB recovery

  **Attempting to open database

  **Attempting to validate header

  **Attempting to validate AMap

  **Attempting to validate BBT

  **Attempting to validate NBT

  **Attempting to validate BBT refcounts

  **Attempting to validate header NID high-water marks

**Beginning PST/OST recovery

  **Attempting to recover all top-level objects

  **Attempting to walk all folders

  **Attempting to locate any orphaned folders/messages

  **Attempting to check top-level objects for consistency

  **Updating folder hierarchy


Microsoft (R) Inbox Repair Tool
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1995-1996. All rights reserved.

  **Beginning NDB recovery


RE: PST version - revisited

2003-08-18 Thread Ali Wilkes (IT)
Yep.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:36 PM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: Re: PST version - revisited


Did you bang your head against your desk?

- Original Message - 
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:31 PM
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


Yep.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:28 PM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


Did you remove the R?

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited

Hm... before copying would be rather difficult, as this is from a CD.

Tried removing the A after copying, didn't seem to help.

-Original Message-
From: Dryden, Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:11 PM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


I know this sounds crazy, but clear the archive bit before you do the
copy.  There was some version of the pst that could not be opened unless
you did that prior to copying it.  That was documented, but it was
awhile ago.

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


pst19upg fails instantly.  *sigh*.

Thanks tho...

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 12:56 PM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


Might also try running the pst19upg tool.  If it was an old file, this
upgrades it to a newer format.  Might help, might not.  A Google search
ought to give you some places to download it.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:50 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


The first time I ran it- that there were errors.  Ran it again on same
pst - says there are 4 folders (not even close...).

Then I am able to open it, and there is one folder, Deleted Items.
*sigh*

I'm guessing what's in the log means from a scanpst perspective, I'm
screwed.

Scanpst log file:
**Beginning NDB recovery

  **Attempting to open database

  **Attempting to validate header

!!Header NDB magic incorrect (read=, expected=4E444221)

  **Attempting to validate AMap

!!PMap page @17920: PTYPE mismatch (read 00, expected 83)
!!PMap page @17920: BID mismatch (read 0, expected 4600) [...]
**Attempting to rebuild BBT

**Attempting to scavenge for blocks

  **Attempting to rebuild NBT

**Attempting to scavenge for nodes

  **Attempting to validate BBT refcounts

  **Attempting to validate header NID high-water marks

**Beginning PST/OST recovery

  **Attempting to recover all top-level objects

  !!Message store missing PR_PST_PASSWORD
  !!Message store missing or invalid PR_RECORD_KEY
  !!Message store missing PR_DISPLAY_NAME
  !!Message store missing PR_IPM_SUBTREE_ENTRYID

  !!Receive folder table missing
  !!Receive folder table missing default message class

  !!Name-to-id map missing

  !!Search folder (nid=1E1) missing update queue

  !!Search activity list missing

  !!Missing template (nid=60D)

  !!Missing template (nid=60E)

  !!Missing template (nid=60F)

  !!Missing template (nid=610)

  !!Missing template (nid=692)

  !!Missing template (nid=671)

  !!Missing the outgoing queue

  !!Missing root folder

  !!Missing IPM_SUBTREE

  **Attempting to walk all folders

  **Attempting to locate any orphaned folders/messages

!!Adding folder (nid=8022) back to the database

  **Attempting to check top-level objects for consistency

  ??Deleting SDO

  **Updating folder hierarchy

**Attempting to fix original file

  **Attempting to copy back BBT

  **Attempting to copy back NBT


Microsoft (R) Inbox Repair Tool
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1995-1996. All rights reserved.

**Beginning NDB recovery

  **Attempting to open database

  **Attempting to validate header

  **Attempting to validate AMap

  **Attempting to validate BBT

  **Attempting to validate NBT

  **Attempting to validate BBT refcounts

  **Attempting to validate header NID high-water marks

**Beginning PST/OST recovery

  **Attempting to recover all top-level objects

  **Attempting to walk all folders

  **Attempting to locate any 

RE: PST version - revisited

2003-08-18 Thread Martin Blackstone
What SP level was the desk at? 

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited

Yep.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:36 PM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: Re: PST version - revisited


Did you bang your head against your desk?

- Original Message - 
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:31 PM
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


Yep.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:28 PM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


Did you remove the R?

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited

Hm... before copying would be rather difficult, as this is from a CD.

Tried removing the A after copying, didn't seem to help.

-Original Message-
From: Dryden, Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:11 PM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


I know this sounds crazy, but clear the archive bit before you do the
copy.  There was some version of the pst that could not be opened unless
you did that prior to copying it.  That was documented, but it was
awhile ago.

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


pst19upg fails instantly.  *sigh*.

Thanks tho...

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 12:56 PM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


Might also try running the pst19upg tool.  If it was an old file, this
upgrades it to a newer format.  Might help, might not.  A Google search
ought to give you some places to download it.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:50 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


The first time I ran it- that there were errors.  Ran it again on same
pst - says there are 4 folders (not even close...).

Then I am able to open it, and there is one folder, Deleted Items.
*sigh*

I'm guessing what's in the log means from a scanpst perspective, I'm
screwed.

Scanpst log file:
**Beginning NDB recovery

  **Attempting to open database

  **Attempting to validate header

!!Header NDB magic incorrect (read=, expected=4E444221)

  **Attempting to validate AMap

!!PMap page @17920: PTYPE mismatch (read 00, expected 83)
!!PMap page @17920: BID mismatch (read 0, expected 4600) [...]
**Attempting to rebuild BBT

**Attempting to scavenge for blocks

  **Attempting to rebuild NBT

**Attempting to scavenge for nodes

  **Attempting to validate BBT refcounts

  **Attempting to validate header NID high-water marks

**Beginning PST/OST recovery

  **Attempting to recover all top-level objects

  !!Message store missing PR_PST_PASSWORD
  !!Message store missing or invalid PR_RECORD_KEY
  !!Message store missing PR_DISPLAY_NAME
  !!Message store missing PR_IPM_SUBTREE_ENTRYID

  !!Receive folder table missing
  !!Receive folder table missing default message class

  !!Name-to-id map missing

  !!Search folder (nid=1E1) missing update queue

  !!Search activity list missing

  !!Missing template (nid=60D)

  !!Missing template (nid=60E)

  !!Missing template (nid=60F)

  !!Missing template (nid=610)

  !!Missing template (nid=692)

  !!Missing template (nid=671)

  !!Missing the outgoing queue

  !!Missing root folder

  !!Missing IPM_SUBTREE

  **Attempting to walk all folders

  **Attempting to locate any orphaned folders/messages

!!Adding folder (nid=8022) back to the database

  **Attempting to check top-level objects for consistency

  ??Deleting SDO

  **Updating folder hierarchy

**Attempting to fix original file

  **Attempting to copy back BBT

  **Attempting to copy back NBT


Microsoft (R) Inbox Repair Tool
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1995-1996. All rights reserved.

**Beginning NDB recovery

  **Attempting to open database

  **Attempting to validate header

  **Attempting to validate AMap

  **Attempting to validate BBT

  **Attempting to validate NBT

  **Attempting to validate BBT 

RE: PST version - revisited

2003-08-18 Thread Ali Wilkes (IT)
WinXP, sp2?
OLXP, sp2

I tried recovering onto an xp box w/olxp, and it didn't seem to help... I can try 
later to match service packs...

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:40 PM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


What SP level was the desk at? 

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited

Yep.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:36 PM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: Re: PST version - revisited


Did you bang your head against your desk?

- Original Message - 
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:31 PM
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


Yep.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:28 PM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


Did you remove the R?

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited

Hm... before copying would be rather difficult, as this is from a CD.

Tried removing the A after copying, didn't seem to help.

-Original Message-
From: Dryden, Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:11 PM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


I know this sounds crazy, but clear the archive bit before you do the
copy.  There was some version of the pst that could not be opened unless
you did that prior to copying it.  That was documented, but it was
awhile ago.

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


pst19upg fails instantly.  *sigh*.

Thanks tho...

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 12:56 PM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


Might also try running the pst19upg tool.  If it was an old file, this
upgrades it to a newer format.  Might help, might not.  A Google search
ought to give you some places to download it.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:50 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: PST version - revisited
Subject: RE: PST version - revisited


The first time I ran it- that there were errors.  Ran it again on same
pst - says there are 4 folders (not even close...).

Then I am able to open it, and there is one folder, Deleted Items.
*sigh*

I'm guessing what's in the log means from a scanpst perspective, I'm
screwed.

Scanpst log file:
**Beginning NDB recovery

  **Attempting to open database

  **Attempting to validate header

!!Header NDB magic incorrect (read=, expected=4E444221)

  **Attempting to validate AMap

!!PMap page @17920: PTYPE mismatch (read 00, expected 83)
!!PMap page @17920: BID mismatch (read 0, expected 4600) [...]
**Attempting to rebuild BBT

**Attempting to scavenge for blocks

  **Attempting to rebuild NBT

**Attempting to scavenge for nodes

  **Attempting to validate BBT refcounts

  **Attempting to validate header NID high-water marks

**Beginning PST/OST recovery

  **Attempting to recover all top-level objects

  !!Message store missing PR_PST_PASSWORD
  !!Message store missing or invalid PR_RECORD_KEY
  !!Message store missing PR_DISPLAY_NAME
  !!Message store missing PR_IPM_SUBTREE_ENTRYID

  !!Receive folder table missing
  !!Receive folder table missing default message class

  !!Name-to-id map missing

  !!Search folder (nid=1E1) missing update queue

  !!Search activity list missing

  !!Missing template (nid=60D)

  !!Missing template (nid=60E)

  !!Missing template (nid=60F)

  !!Missing template (nid=610)

  !!Missing template (nid=692)

  !!Missing template (nid=671)

  !!Missing the outgoing queue

  !!Missing root folder

  !!Missing IPM_SUBTREE

  **Attempting to walk all folders

  **Attempting to locate any orphaned folders/messages

!!Adding folder (nid=8022) back to the database

  **Attempting to check top-level objects for consistency

  ??Deleting SDO

  **Updating folder hierarchy

**Attempting to fix original file

  

RE: 3rd Party SPAM block companies besides edoxs (Brightmail)

2003-08-18 Thread Etts, Russell
There are two that I like:

Singlefin
Postini

Both seem to work rather well.  

HTH

Russell 

-Original Message-
From: Orin Rehorst [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 10:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: 3rd Party SPAM block companies besides edoxs (Brightmail)


Do you know of any good 3rd Party SPAM block companies besides edoxs (
they use Brightmail)?
TIA
Regards,
Orin
Orin Rehorst 



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Use of DS/IS Consistency Adjuster

2003-08-18 Thread Dave Vantine
In setting up a lab environment to test upgrading from 5.5 to 2000, I came
across some issues with the IS that I did not expect to see. Over the last
few years we have removed users from both the NT Sam and the Exchange DS.
When a Recipient was removed from the DS, it removed the mailbox from the IS
but it appears that any permissions that referenced that recipient (e.g.
/O=CREATIVE COMPUTING, INC./OU=CREATCOMP/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=RLB) in both the
Public Folders and/or other users folders become orphaned. As case in
point, the above recipient was given explicit access to a number of folders
in my Inbox and now that he has been removed, I now have these orphaned
permissions.

I have used the DS/IS Adjuster when using a recovery server to restore an
individual mailbox to create the DS entries. In this case however I do not
wish to create any missing entries but hope that I can use it to Remove
unknown user accounts from mailbox permissions and Remove unknown user
accounts from public folder permissions 

I have researched MS knowledge base and reviewed both Robichaux's and
McBee's Exch 5.5 books and don't really see any prertinent information that
indicates whether this is an appropriate use for it. Robichaux does indicate
that this is a dangerous feature so thought I would seek the opinion of
others.

I could manually go through all of my folders and remove the permissions but
I would have to also have everyone else in the organization perform this as
well and thought this may be an automated way to remove these orphaned
permissions. It seems that this would be a good step before trying to
migrate.

As a side question, is there a particular reason that the deletion of a
recipient does not remove all references to them in the IS and not just
their mailbox?

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Re: Use of DS/IS Consistency Adjuster

2003-08-18 Thread Tony Hlabse
try PFadmin

From: Dave Vantine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Use of DS/IS Consistency Adjuster
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:14:18 -0400
In setting up a lab environment to test upgrading from 5.5 to 2000, I came
across some issues with the IS that I did not expect to see. Over the last
few years we have removed users from both the NT Sam and the Exchange DS.
When a Recipient was removed from the DS, it removed the mailbox from the IS
but it appears that any permissions that referenced that recipient (e.g.
/O=CREATIVE COMPUTING, INC./OU=CREATCOMP/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=RLB) in both the
Public Folders and/or other users folders become orphaned. As case in
point, the above recipient was given explicit access to a number of folders
in my Inbox and now that he has been removed, I now have these orphaned
permissions.
I have used the DS/IS Adjuster when using a recovery server to restore an
individual mailbox to create the DS entries. In this case however I do not
wish to create any missing entries but hope that I can use it to Remove
unknown user accounts from mailbox permissions and Remove unknown user
accounts from public folder permissions
I have researched MS knowledge base and reviewed both Robichaux's and
McBee's Exch 5.5 books and don't really see any prertinent information that
indicates whether this is an appropriate use for it. Robichaux does indicate
that this is a dangerous feature so thought I would seek the opinion of
others.
I could manually go through all of my folders and remove the permissions but
I would have to also have everyone else in the organization perform this as
well and thought this may be an automated way to remove these orphaned
permissions. It seems that this would be a good step before trying to
migrate.
As a side question, is there a particular reason that the deletion of a
recipient does not remove all references to them in the IS and not just
their mailbox?
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problem w/ an incremental backup

2003-08-18 Thread Greg S
EventID: 0x01CB (459) - Information Store (2904)
ad3211d5-ed90-4257-a9e2-3b544a46ca01: The file F:\Sandbox-logs\E02004F5.log
is missing and could not be backed-up.

win2k Advanced SP3
exchange 2k sp3 ent.

a customer of mine gets this error - not every backup - just on occasion on
1 storage group - doing an incremental backup.   I don't have the exact clip
of the event, this is what HP OpenView snagged on thurs when it last
happened, but the appl. log has rolled over since.

any insight into this?   not a major problem as its a secondary storage
group set up for a few test mailboxes, yet it still needs to be addressed.

thanks in advance.


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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Ed Crowley
We all are.  But that's not the point.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bridges, Samantha
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 7:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was for
questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem stupid
to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are
good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good for the questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I wear
many hats here in the name of special education children and I don't have
time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read books on
Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past few weeks
and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this list.I
wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like yourself, I will look
to people like yourself who know this stuff backwards and forwards to give
some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and am
doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social event for
buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books on
it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 -0400

Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would M:icrosoft

put that there?

Thanks

Sam

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Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



  Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What
  is that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

2003-08-18 Thread Ed Crowley
That would be you're.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bridges, Samantha
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Can't spell when your upset.

I don't want to argue anymore.  I have work to do.

-Original Message-
From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Loser boy. If you are gonna call people names, please at least spell the
name correctly. :-) 

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you know
Exchange??  (what a dork!)

I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much.  I think
you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself by being
the best at a computer software.  

Get a life.looser boy!!!


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time.  

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.  

Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still am,
sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like you.
You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and I'll be
nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with a complete
expectation that someone else is going to do even the most basic research
for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone like me pissed at you.

You don't like it?  Tough.  Like you said in one of your last pieces of
drivel, don't read it.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was for
questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem stupid
to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what questions are
good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good for the questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I wear
many hats here in the name of special education children and I don't have
time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read books on
Exchange server.  I have picked up a few good books in the past few weeks
and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this list.I
wish for nothing more.  But until I become a pro like yourself, I will look
to people like yourself who know this stuff backwards and forwards to give
some direction.  

I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could
remember the days when you were learning.  I was given this project and am
doing the best I can.  This list is for getting help, not a social event for
buddies.

It is a shame that you are not more patient.

Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past.

Samantha



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You really really need to get trained on Exchange or start reading books on
it as oppossed to asking this list for every thing you do.


From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:45:35 

RE: problem w/ an incremental backup

2003-08-18 Thread Ed Crowley
So, is that log file missing?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg S
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: problem w/ an incremental backup

EventID: 0x01CB (459) - Information Store (2904)
ad3211d5-ed90-4257-a9e2-3b544a46ca01: The file F:\Sandbox-logs\E02004F5.log
is missing and could not be backed-up.

win2k Advanced SP3
exchange 2k sp3 ent.

a customer of mine gets this error - not every backup - just on occasion on
1 storage group - doing an incremental backup.   I don't have the exact clip
of the event, this is what HP OpenView snagged on thurs when it last
happened, but the appl. log has rolled over since.

any insight into this?   not a major problem as its a secondary storage
group set up for a few test mailboxes, yet it still needs to be addressed.

thanks in advance.


--- 

Greg Sachs

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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