RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

2003-12-10 Thread David, Andy
Did you re-install the backup agents after installing the hotfixes to all
the servers?

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From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 6:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?


Yes, Exchange Admin and System Manager from Exchange 2003 are on both of my
production backup servers AND on the Exchange 2003 server I installed BE 9.1
on. The exchange agent is also installed. 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Akerlund, Scott
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 6:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

Did you install the Exchange Admin with the same SP on the backup systems?

Scott

-Original Message-
From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

We are currently running a Ex 5.5 mixed mode environment with our First
Exchange 2003 server deployed for testing with our IT department. For the
life of me I can not get Backup Exec 9.0 4454 (with E2k3 hot fix) or 9.1 to
see and backup the private and public info stores. 

It WILL see and backup the mailboxes and public folders just fine in bricks
mode (not that I want to). It gives me no errors, but just does not show the
IS as an available item to backup. I have tried this with two different
backup servers, and by installing BE 9.1 on to the new Exchange server by
its self.

I have even created a new account for it to use to login with.

Has anyone seen this behavior before? I'd like to rule out something stupid
if I can before I spend an hour on hold with Veritas.

Thanks

Miles



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RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

2003-12-10 Thread Simon Butler
Have you got an upgraded key from Veritas?
I had this same problem with a new Exchange installation a couple of
weeks ago. Putting the existing key for Exchange gave me the mailboxes
but didn't give me the Information stores option. 
A quick call to Veritas customer support got me a new key and the
options were available. 
Simon.

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Sent: 09 December 2003 23:33
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?


Yes, Exchange Admin and System Manager from Exchange 2003 are on both of
my production backup servers AND on the Exchange 2003 server I installed
BE 9.1 on. The exchange agent is also installed. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Akerlund,
Scott
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 6:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

Did you install the Exchange Admin with the same SP on the backup
systems?

Scott

-Original Message-
From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

We are currently running a Ex 5.5 mixed mode environment with our First
Exchange 2003 server deployed for testing with our IT department. For
the life of me I can not get Backup Exec 9.0 4454 (with E2k3 hot fix) or
9.1 to see and backup the private and public info stores. 

It WILL see and backup the mailboxes and public folders just fine in
bricks mode (not that I want to). It gives me no errors, but just does
not show the IS as an available item to backup. I have tried this with
two different backup servers, and by installing BE 9.1 on to the new
Exchange server by its self.

I have even created a new account for it to use to login with.

Has anyone seen this behavior before? I'd like to rule out something
stupid if I can before I spend an hour on hold with Veritas.

Thanks

Miles



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RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

2003-12-10 Thread ml.exchange
 

-Original Message-
From: Holt, Miles 
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 9:49 AM
To: 'Exchange Discussions'
Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

Yes. In the case of the 9.1 install (no hot fixes needed), I actually migrated the two 
mailboxes on the server back to the 5.5 server, uninstalled Exchange
2003 and formatted the box before trying again with a new server name. I then 
installed Exchange 2003 on it, created a test mailbox and sent it a few
messages, and then installed BE 9.1 on the new server and rebooted. Even with a clean 
install on the server it cannot see the stores.

The reinstall attempt with BE 9.1 on the exchange server its self was my project 
yesterday trying to debug it. It makes no sense to me. It the exchange
agent can see the mailboxes and public folders for a bricks level backup (which 
appears to function) it should show the stores as well.

Miles

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 8:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

Did you re-install the backup agents after installing the hotfixes to all the servers?

-Original Message-
From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 6:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?


Yes, Exchange Admin and System Manager from Exchange 2003 are on both of my production 
backup servers AND on the Exchange 2003 server I installed BE 9.1 on.
The exchange agent is also installed. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Akerlund, Scott
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 6:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

Did you install the Exchange Admin with the same SP on the backup systems?

Scott

-Original Message-
From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

We are currently running a Ex 5.5 mixed mode environment with our First Exchange 2003 
server deployed for testing with our IT department. For the life of me
I can not get Backup Exec 9.0 4454 (with E2k3 hot fix) or 9.1 to see and backup the 
private and public info stores. 

It WILL see and backup the mailboxes and public folders just fine in bricks mode (not 
that I want to). It gives me no errors, but just does not show the IS
as an available item to backup. I have tried this with two different backup servers, 
and by installing BE 9.1 on to the new Exchange server by its self.

I have even created a new account for it to use to login with.

Has anyone seen this behavior before? I'd like to rule out something stupid if I can 
before I spend an hour on hold with Veritas.

Thanks

Miles



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RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

2003-12-10 Thread ml.exchange
I have not tried that yet as I dread waiting on hold for an hour for a tech (if you 
are forced to pay for support in the first place should you get to speak
with a tech without being on hold that long?). I guess that may be my next step but I 
have no idea why I would need a new key for it other than a weird bung
on their end.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Butler
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

Have you got an upgraded key from Veritas?
I had this same problem with a new Exchange installation a couple of weeks ago. 
Putting the existing key for Exchange gave me the mailboxes but didn't give
me the Information stores option. 
A quick call to Veritas customer support got me a new key and the options were 
available. 
Simon.

--
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Amset IT Solutions Ltd.

e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
w: www.amset-it.com
w: www.amset.info

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ml.exchange
Sent: 09 December 2003 23:33
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?


Yes, Exchange Admin and System Manager from Exchange 2003 are on both of my production 
backup servers AND on the Exchange 2003 server I installed BE 9.1 on.
The exchange agent is also installed. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Akerlund, Scott
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 6:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

Did you install the Exchange Admin with the same SP on the backup systems?

Scott

-Original Message-
From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

We are currently running a Ex 5.5 mixed mode environment with our First Exchange 2003 
server deployed for testing with our IT department. For the life of me
I can not get Backup Exec 9.0 4454 (with E2k3 hot fix) or
9.1 to see and backup the private and public info stores. 

It WILL see and backup the mailboxes and public folders just fine in bricks mode (not 
that I want to). It gives me no errors, but just does not show the IS
as an available item to backup. I have tried this with two different backup servers, 
and by installing BE 9.1 on to the new Exchange server by its self.

I have even created a new account for it to use to login with.

Has anyone seen this behavior before? I'd like to rule out something stupid if I can 
before I spend an hour on hold with Veritas.

Thanks

Miles



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RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

2003-12-10 Thread Simon Butler
I didn't call Technical, I called sales to query my license, then they
put me through to Customer Services. They read my license information
from their computer and I was away. 
The reason they told me was that it was for a different version and I
only could have it because I was under maintenance. I too thought it was
odd that I required a different key,  but that was what I was told. 

Simon.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ml.exchange
Sent: 10 December 2003 14:55
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?


I have not tried that yet as I dread waiting on hold for an hour for a
tech (if you are forced to pay for support in the first place should you
get to speak with a tech without being on hold that long?). I guess that
may be my next step but I have no idea why I would need a new key for it
other than a weird bung on their end.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Butler
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

Have you got an upgraded key from Veritas?
I had this same problem with a new Exchange installation a couple of
weeks ago. Putting the existing key for Exchange gave me the mailboxes
but didn't give me the Information stores option. 
A quick call to Veritas customer support got me a new key and the
options were available. 
Simon.

--
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Amset IT Solutions Ltd.

e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
w: www.amset-it.com
w: www.amset.info

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ml.exchange
Sent: 09 December 2003 23:33
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?


Yes, Exchange Admin and System Manager from Exchange 2003 are on both of
my production backup servers AND on the Exchange 2003 server I installed
BE 9.1 on. The exchange agent is also installed. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Akerlund,
Scott
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 6:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

Did you install the Exchange Admin with the same SP on the backup
systems?

Scott

-Original Message-
From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

We are currently running a Ex 5.5 mixed mode environment with our First
Exchange 2003 server deployed for testing with our IT department. For
the life of me I can not get Backup Exec 9.0 4454 (with E2k3 hot fix) or
9.1 to see and backup the private and public info stores. 

It WILL see and backup the mailboxes and public folders just fine in
bricks mode (not that I want to). It gives me no errors, but just does
not show the IS as an available item to backup. I have tried this with
two different backup servers, and by installing BE 9.1 on to the new
Exchange server by its self.

I have even created a new account for it to use to login with.

Has anyone seen this behavior before? I'd like to rule out something
stupid if I can before I spend an hour on hold with Veritas.

Thanks

Miles



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Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

2003-12-09 Thread ml.exchange
We are currently running a Ex 5.5 mixed mode environment with our First Exchange 2003 
server deployed for testing with our IT department. For the life of me
I can not get Backup Exec 9.0 4454 (with E2k3 hot fix) or 9.1 to see and backup the 
private and public info stores. 

It WILL see and backup the mailboxes and public folders just fine in bricks mode (not 
that I want to). It gives me no errors, but just does not show the IS
as an available item to backup. I have tried this with two different backup servers, 
and by installing BE 9.1 on to the new Exchange server by its self.

I have even created a new account for it to use to login with.

Has anyone seen this behavior before? I'd like to rule out something stupid if I can 
before I spend an hour on hold with Veritas.

Thanks

Miles



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RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

2003-12-09 Thread Akerlund, Scott
Did you install the Exchange Admin with the same SP on the backup systems?

Scott

-Original Message-
From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

We are currently running a Ex 5.5 mixed mode environment with our First
Exchange 2003 server deployed for testing with our IT department. For the life
of me
I can not get Backup Exec 9.0 4454 (with E2k3 hot fix) or 9.1 to see and backup
the private and public info stores. 

It WILL see and backup the mailboxes and public folders just fine in bricks
mode (not that I want to). It gives me no errors, but just does not show the IS
as an available item to backup. I have tried this with two different backup
servers, and by installing BE 9.1 on to the new Exchange server by its self.

I have even created a new account for it to use to login with.

Has anyone seen this behavior before? I'd like to rule out something stupid if
I can before I spend an hour on hold with Veritas.

Thanks

Miles



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RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

2003-12-09 Thread ml.exchange
Yes, Exchange Admin and System Manager from Exchange 2003 are on both of my production 
backup servers AND on the Exchange 2003 server I installed BE 9.1 on.
The exchange agent is also installed. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Akerlund, Scott
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 6:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

Did you install the Exchange Admin with the same SP on the backup systems?

Scott

-Original Message-
From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

We are currently running a Ex 5.5 mixed mode environment with our First Exchange 2003 
server deployed for testing with our IT department. For the life of me
I can not get Backup Exec 9.0 4454 (with E2k3 hot fix) or 9.1 to see and backup the 
private and public info stores. 

It WILL see and backup the mailboxes and public folders just fine in bricks mode (not 
that I want to). It gives me no errors, but just does not show the IS
as an available item to backup. I have tried this with two different backup servers, 
and by installing BE 9.1 on to the new Exchange server by its self.

I have even created a new account for it to use to login with.

Has anyone seen this behavior before? I'd like to rule out something stupid if I can 
before I spend an hour on hold with Veritas.

Thanks

Miles



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RE: exchange 5.5 private stores and purging

2003-11-17 Thread pat karr
Guys,

good news, I did the eseutil /d /priv on my exchange box and now have
regained my space back.

thanks for the help

Pat

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RE: exchange 5.5 private stores and purging

2003-11-17 Thread Couch, Nate
no prob

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 Guys,
 
 good news, I did the eseutil /d /priv on my exchange box and now have
 regained my space back.
 
 thanks for the help
 
 Pat
 
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RE: exchange 5.5 private stores and purging

2003-11-17 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
How much space?  If it wasn't a lot, then keep an eye on it because it just
might bounce back up.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

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Guys,

good news, I did the eseutil /d /priv on my exchange box and now have
regained my space back.

thanks for the help

Pat

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RE: exchange 5.5 private stores and purging

2003-11-14 Thread pat karr
Nate, Andy, and Ben,

thanks for all of your help concerning this issue.  I finally received a
1221 message from the server at 6 pm last night.  It told me I have 6509
Megabytes of space free.  Very cool.  I will be doing another eseutil /d
/priv over the weekend and another backup.

Once again THANKS for all of your help.

I'm learning eventhough I've been running this thing for 5 years or so.

Pat

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exchange 5.5 private stores and purging

2003-11-13 Thread pat karr
Hi all,

I run an Exchange 5.5 SP4 server on Win NT 4.0.  Over the weekend it
reached it 16GB threshold and I had to defrag it using the ESEUTIL. 
Afterwards, I made a backup and began clearing out over 100 accounts that
contained close to 8GB's worth of data (according to the privates stores
resources area).  After which, I went back and viewed the size of the
PRIV.EDB and it remained the same size as it was before the purging.  It
was explained to me that I needed to run another backup and did so. 
Nothing has changed on the size of the PRIV.EDB database, shows 14.7 GB's.
 I even ran the ESEUTIL once afterwards and another backup.  I am using
Brightstor Enterprise Backup.  Once again nothing changed.  Does anyone
know why this is happening and how I can recover all of the space that I
cleared?

best regards,

Pat

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RE: exchange 5.5 private stores and purging

2003-11-13 Thread Couch, Nate
My first question is on the second ESEUTIL run di you run a defrag or did
you run some other switch with it?  If you did not run a second defrag after
you cleaned out the accounts then that is your issue.  MS Exchange does
defrag automatically, but it does not compress automatically.  In order to
recoup the space you cleaned up you must run the ESEUTIL with the defrag
switch.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

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 From: pat karr
 Reply To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 8:25 AM
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  exchange 5.5 private stores and purging
 
 Hi all,
 
 I run an Exchange 5.5 SP4 server on Win NT 4.0.  Over the weekend it
 reached it 16GB threshold and I had to defrag it using the ESEUTIL. 
 Afterwards, I made a backup and began clearing out over 100 accounts that
 contained close to 8GB's worth of data (according to the privates stores
 resources area).  After which, I went back and viewed the size of the
 PRIV.EDB and it remained the same size as it was before the purging.  It
 was explained to me that I needed to run another backup and did so. 
 Nothing has changed on the size of the PRIV.EDB database, shows 14.7 GB's.
  I even ran the ESEUTIL once afterwards and another backup.  I am using
 Brightstor Enterprise Backup.  Once again nothing changed.  Does anyone
 know why this is happening and how I can recover all of the space that I
 cleared?
 
 best regards,
 
 Pat
 
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RE: exchange 5.5 private stores and purging

2003-11-13 Thread David, Andy
Set the Deleted Item Retention time for messages to 0 and IS maintenance to
always and let that puppy run for awhile. Also, check the 1221 events in
the app log and see how much space has been freed up. The 1221's will give
you the min amount you can reclaim after defragging with eseutil again. 
And of course, take another backup *after* you run eseutil  :)




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From: pat karr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 9:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: exchange 5.5 private stores and purging


Hi all,

I run an Exchange 5.5 SP4 server on Win NT 4.0.  Over the weekend it reached
it 16GB threshold and I had to defrag it using the ESEUTIL. 
Afterwards, I made a backup and began clearing out over 100 accounts that
contained close to 8GB's worth of data (according to the privates stores
resources area).  After which, I went back and viewed the size of the
PRIV.EDB and it remained the same size as it was before the purging.  It was
explained to me that I needed to run another backup and did so. 
Nothing has changed on the size of the PRIV.EDB database, shows 14.7 GB's.
I even ran the ESEUTIL once afterwards and another backup.  I am using
Brightstor Enterprise Backup.  Once again nothing changed.  Does anyone know
why this is happening and how I can recover all of the space that I cleared?

best regards,

Pat

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RE: exchange 5.5 private stores and purging

2003-11-13 Thread pat karr
I ran the util with the /d command switch.  Was this correct?

pat

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RE: exchange 5.5 private stores and purging

2003-11-13 Thread Ben Winzenz
Yes, but only if you ran it AFTER online maintenance purged the deleted
items.  Eseutil only purges the whitespace, which only gets created by
online maintenance.  Do what Andy suggested, and set maintenance to run
always, wait a while and check event 1221 to see how much whitespace you
have.  You can then run eseutil again to recover that whitespace. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


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I ran the util with the /d command switch.  Was this correct?

pat

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RE: exchange 5.5 private stores and purging

2003-11-13 Thread pat karr
Andy,

I went into the IS Maintenance and did what was requested. I also went and
set the deleted file retention to 0 and removed the check box that
relates to keeping the message until a backup is done.

In the app log I see a bunch of 1003 and 1006 messages stating that
messages and attachments are being cleaned by the background cleaning
sessions.  I have only seen 3 1221's and they deal with the
MSExchangePublic.  When should I see the one for MSExchangePriv?

When will the private store size reflect the change?  After the background
cleaning session has done its job or after I run another eseutil /d
/ispriv?

thanks,

Pat

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RE: exchange 5.5 private stores and purging

2003-11-13 Thread Ben Winzenz
It will show the 1221 event for the Private IS once it is done.  Once
you see that message, then you can run eseutil again. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
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Posted At: Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:12 PM
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Conversation: exchange 5.5 private stores and purging
Subject: RE: exchange 5.5 private stores and purging


Andy,

I went into the IS Maintenance and did what was requested. I also went
and set the deleted file retention to 0 and removed the check box that
relates to keeping the message until a backup is done.

In the app log I see a bunch of 1003 and 1006 messages stating that
messages and attachments are being cleaned by the background cleaning
sessions.  I have only seen 3 1221's and they deal with the
MSExchangePublic.  When should I see the one for MSExchangePriv?

When will the private store size reflect the change?  After the
background cleaning session has done its job or after I run another
eseutil /d /ispriv?

thanks,

Pat

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RE: exchange 5.5 private stores and purging

2003-11-13 Thread pat karr
Thanks Ben.  So far the only 1221's that are showing up are the one's for
the MSExchangePub but none for the MSExchange Private.  Will it show some
type of progress message?  All I keep seeing are the messages relating
deleting messages and attachments.

what do you think?

Pat

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RE: Can't move Mailboxes between Stores

2003-03-26 Thread Mark Dewell
Corrupted mail store? 


 -Original Message-
 From: Lloyd, D (Dave) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 26 March 2003 03:37
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Can't move Mailboxes between Stores
 
 
 OK, I have an issue which I'm hoping someone can point in the right
 direction...even if it's only to ask some questions I haven't 
 thought of
 yet.
 
 OK, first the setup:
 DC's and GC's running Win2k SP3.  We are in a child domain.
 E2K SP3 running on Win2k SP2 member servers.  There are 5 Admin groups
 though we're only concerned with one of them.
 
 The issue:
 Trying to move a mailbox fails.  Basically the server has one storage
 group, and 4 stores.  We're trying to move mailboxes from the original
 store (priv1) to one of the other 3 on the same server, and if fails
 with a mapi error indicating the IS/Exchange serevr is unavailable.
 The Event log shows 14 entries like this:
 
 Event Type:   Warning
 Event Source: MSExchangeIS Mailbox Store
 Event Category:   Access Control 
 Event ID: 1029
 Date: 25/03/2003
 Time: 8:25:28 PM
 User: N/A
 Computer: servername
 Description:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed an operation because the user did not
 have the following access rights:
 
 'Delete' 'Read Property' 'Write Property' 'Create Message' 'View Item'
 'Create Subfolder' 'Write Security Descriptor' 'Write Owner' 'Read
 Security Descriptor' 'Contact' 
 
 The distinguished name of the owning mailbox is
 /O=OrgName/OU=AdminGroup/CN=CONFIGURATION/CN=SERVERS/CN=S
ervername
 /CN=MICROSOFT SYSTEM ATTENDANT. The folder ID is in the data 
 section of
 this event. 
 
 For more information, click
 http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp. 
 Data:
 : 01 00 00 00 00 00 03 52   ...R
 
 Then followed by Antigen noticing the Store's gone off-line. And then:
 
 
 Event Type:   Error
 Event Source: MSExchangeAdmin
 Event Category:   Move Mailbox 
 Event ID: 9169
 Date: 25/03/2003
 Time: 8:26:05 PM
 User: N/A
 Computer: servername
 Description:
 Failed to copy basic mailbox information. 
 Error: The action could not be completed because the 
 Microsoft Exchange
 Information Store service is unavailable. Be sure the service 
 is running
 and you have network connectivity to the Microsoft Exchange Server
 computer. 
 
 For more information, click
 http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp. 
 
 
 Event Type:   Error
 Event Source: MSExchangeAdmin
 Event Category:   Move Mailbox 
 Event ID: 1023
 Date: 25/03/2003
 Time: 8:26:10 PM
 User: N/A
 Computer: servername
 Description:
 Unable to set a property on the message store on 'servername'. Result:
 Network problems are preventing connection to the Microsoft Exchange
 Server computer.
 An unexpected, unknown error has occurred.
 Microsoft Exchange Server Information Store
 ID no: 80040115-0514-06ba 
 
 For more information, click
 http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp. 
 
 
 
 Event Type:   Error
 Event Source: MSExchangeAdmin
 Event Category:   Move Mailbox 
 Event ID: 1008
 Date: 25/03/2003
 Time: 8:26:10 PM
 User: N/A
 Computer: servername
 Description:
 Unable to move mailbox 'User'. 
 Error: The action could not be completed because the 
 Microsoft Exchange
 Information Store service is unavailable. Be sure the service 
 is running
 and you have network connectivity to the Microsoft Exchange Server
 computer. 
 
 For more information, click
 http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp. 
 
 
 Event Type:   Error
 Event Source: MSExchangeSA
 Event Category:   MAPI Session 
 Event ID: 9175
 Date: 25/03/2003
 Time: 8:26:10 PM
 User: N/A
 Computer: servername
 Description:
 The MAPI call 'OpenMsgStore' failed with the following error: 
 The Microsoft Exchange Server computer is not available.  Either there
 are network problems or the Microsoft Exchange Server computer is down
 for maintenance.
 The MAPI provider failed.
 Microsoft Exchange Server Information Store
 ID no: 8004011d-0526- 
 
 For more information, click
 http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp. 
 
 
 
 Now the odd thing is that this is the second server set up in 
 this Admin
 group and is in the same AD site, subnet etc etc.  The first one
 exhibits no problems.  Moving a mailbox from the 1st server 
 to the priv1
 on the 2nd server works ok, but moving from the 1st server to 
 any other
 store on the 2nd server fails.
 However, if you remove a mailbox, then create a new mailbox 
 in the other
 stores, it works ok.  It is thus only the move function which 
 seems not
 to work.
 
 Whilst troubleshooting another issue over the weekend I 
 stumbled across
 an article which mentioned the system attendant accounts.  
 Unfortunately
 I can't remember how I got there to read it further but I 
 think it said
 you could delete those accounts as they aren't needed, and 
 I'm wondering
 if this has

RE: Can't move Mailboxes between Stores

2003-03-26 Thread Lloyd, D (Dave)
I deleted and re-created them to rule that out but no joy

-Original Message-
From: Mark Dewell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2003 3:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Can't move Mailboxes between Stores


Corrupted mail store? 


 -Original Message-
 From: Lloyd, D (Dave) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 26 March 2003 03:37
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Can't move Mailboxes between Stores
 
 
 OK, I have an issue which I'm hoping someone can point in the right 
 direction...even if it's only to ask some questions I haven't thought 
 of yet.
 
 OK, first the setup:
 DC's and GC's running Win2k SP3.  We are in a child domain. E2K SP3 
 running on Win2k SP2 member servers.  There are 5 Admin groups though 
 we're only concerned with one of them.
 
 The issue:
 Trying to move a mailbox fails.  Basically the server has one storage 
 group, and 4 stores.  We're trying to move mailboxes from the original

 store (priv1) to one of the other 3 on the same server, and if fails 
 with a mapi error indicating the IS/Exchange serevr is unavailable. 
 The Event log shows 14 entries like this:
 
 Event Type:   Warning
 Event Source: MSExchangeIS Mailbox Store
 Event Category:   Access Control 
 Event ID: 1029
 Date: 25/03/2003
 Time: 8:25:28 PM
 User: N/A
 Computer: servername
 Description:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed an operation because the user did not 
 have the following access rights:
 
 'Delete' 'Read Property' 'Write Property' 'Create Message' 'View Item'

 'Create Subfolder' 'Write Security Descriptor' 'Write Owner' 'Read 
 Security Descriptor' 'Contact'
 
 The distinguished name of the owning mailbox is 
 /O=OrgName/OU=AdminGroup/CN=CONFIGURATION/CN=SERVERS/CN=S
ervername
 /CN=MICROSOFT SYSTEM ATTENDANT. The folder ID is in the data
 section of
 this event. 
 
 For more information, click 
 http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp.
 Data:
 : 01 00 00 00 00 00 03 52   ...R
 
 Then followed by Antigen noticing the Store's gone off-line. And then:
 
 
 Event Type:   Error
 Event Source: MSExchangeAdmin
 Event Category:   Move Mailbox 
 Event ID: 9169
 Date: 25/03/2003
 Time: 8:26:05 PM
 User: N/A
 Computer: servername
 Description:
 Failed to copy basic mailbox information.
 Error: The action could not be completed because the 
 Microsoft Exchange
 Information Store service is unavailable. Be sure the service 
 is running
 and you have network connectivity to the Microsoft Exchange Server
 computer. 
 
 For more information, click 
 http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp.
 
 
 Event Type:   Error
 Event Source: MSExchangeAdmin
 Event Category:   Move Mailbox 
 Event ID: 1023
 Date: 25/03/2003
 Time: 8:26:10 PM
 User: N/A
 Computer: servername
 Description:
 Unable to set a property on the message store on 'servername'. Result:

 Network problems are preventing connection to the Microsoft Exchange 
 Server computer. An unexpected, unknown error has occurred.
 Microsoft Exchange Server Information Store
 ID no: 80040115-0514-06ba 
 
 For more information, click 
 http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp.
 
 
 
 Event Type:   Error
 Event Source: MSExchangeAdmin
 Event Category:   Move Mailbox 
 Event ID: 1008
 Date: 25/03/2003
 Time: 8:26:10 PM
 User: N/A
 Computer: servername
 Description:
 Unable to move mailbox 'User'.
 Error: The action could not be completed because the 
 Microsoft Exchange
 Information Store service is unavailable. Be sure the service 
 is running
 and you have network connectivity to the Microsoft Exchange Server
 computer. 
 
 For more information, click 
 http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp.
 
 
 Event Type:   Error
 Event Source: MSExchangeSA
 Event Category:   MAPI Session 
 Event ID: 9175
 Date: 25/03/2003
 Time: 8:26:10 PM
 User: N/A
 Computer: servername
 Description:
 The MAPI call 'OpenMsgStore' failed with the following error:
 The Microsoft Exchange Server computer is not available.  Either there
 are network problems or the Microsoft Exchange Server computer is down
 for maintenance.
 The MAPI provider failed.
 Microsoft Exchange Server Information Store
 ID no: 8004011d-0526- 
 
 For more information, click 
 http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp.
 
 
 
 Now the odd thing is that this is the second server set up in
 this Admin
 group and is in the same AD site, subnet etc etc.  The first one
 exhibits no problems.  Moving a mailbox from the 1st server 
 to the priv1
 on the 2nd server works ok, but moving from the 1st server to 
 any other
 store on the 2nd server fails.
 However, if you remove a mailbox, then create a new mailbox 
 in the other
 stores, it works ok.  It is thus only the move function which 
 seems not
 to work.
 
 Whilst troubleshooting another issue over the weekend I
 stumbled

Can't move Mailboxes between Stores

2003-03-25 Thread Lloyd, D (Dave)
OK, I have an issue which I'm hoping someone can point in the right
direction...even if it's only to ask some questions I haven't thought of
yet.

OK, first the setup:
DC's and GC's running Win2k SP3.  We are in a child domain.
E2K SP3 running on Win2k SP2 member servers.  There are 5 Admin groups
though we're only concerned with one of them.

The issue:
Trying to move a mailbox fails.  Basically the server has one storage
group, and 4 stores.  We're trying to move mailboxes from the original
store (priv1) to one of the other 3 on the same server, and if fails
with a mapi error indicating the IS/Exchange serevr is unavailable.
The Event log shows 14 entries like this:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source:   MSExchangeIS Mailbox Store
Event Category: Access Control 
Event ID:   1029
Date:   25/03/2003
Time:   8:25:28 PM
User:   N/A
Computer:   servername
Description:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] failed an operation because the user did not
have the following access rights:

'Delete' 'Read Property' 'Write Property' 'Create Message' 'View Item'
'Create Subfolder' 'Write Security Descriptor' 'Write Owner' 'Read
Security Descriptor' 'Contact' 

The distinguished name of the owning mailbox is
/O=OrgName/OU=AdminGroup/CN=CONFIGURATION/CN=SERVERS/CN=Servername
/CN=MICROSOFT SYSTEM ATTENDANT. The folder ID is in the data section of
this event. 

For more information, click
http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp. 
Data:
: 01 00 00 00 00 00 03 52   ...R

Then followed by Antigen noticing the Store's gone off-line. And then:


Event Type: Error
Event Source:   MSExchangeAdmin
Event Category: Move Mailbox 
Event ID:   9169
Date:   25/03/2003
Time:   8:26:05 PM
User:   N/A
Computer:   servername
Description:
Failed to copy basic mailbox information. 
Error: The action could not be completed because the Microsoft Exchange
Information Store service is unavailable. Be sure the service is running
and you have network connectivity to the Microsoft Exchange Server
computer. 

For more information, click
http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp. 


Event Type: Error
Event Source:   MSExchangeAdmin
Event Category: Move Mailbox 
Event ID:   1023
Date:   25/03/2003
Time:   8:26:10 PM
User:   N/A
Computer:   servername
Description:
Unable to set a property on the message store on 'servername'. Result:
Network problems are preventing connection to the Microsoft Exchange
Server computer.
An unexpected, unknown error has occurred.
Microsoft Exchange Server Information Store
ID no: 80040115-0514-06ba 

For more information, click
http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp. 



Event Type: Error
Event Source:   MSExchangeAdmin
Event Category: Move Mailbox 
Event ID:   1008
Date:   25/03/2003
Time:   8:26:10 PM
User:   N/A
Computer:   servername
Description:
Unable to move mailbox 'User'. 
Error: The action could not be completed because the Microsoft Exchange
Information Store service is unavailable. Be sure the service is running
and you have network connectivity to the Microsoft Exchange Server
computer. 

For more information, click
http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp. 


Event Type: Error
Event Source:   MSExchangeSA
Event Category: MAPI Session 
Event ID:   9175
Date:   25/03/2003
Time:   8:26:10 PM
User:   N/A
Computer:   servername
Description:
The MAPI call 'OpenMsgStore' failed with the following error: 
The Microsoft Exchange Server computer is not available.  Either there
are network problems or the Microsoft Exchange Server computer is down
for maintenance.
The MAPI provider failed.
Microsoft Exchange Server Information Store
ID no: 8004011d-0526- 

For more information, click
http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp. 



Now the odd thing is that this is the second server set up in this Admin
group and is in the same AD site, subnet etc etc.  The first one
exhibits no problems.  Moving a mailbox from the 1st server to the priv1
on the 2nd server works ok, but moving from the 1st server to any other
store on the 2nd server fails.
However, if you remove a mailbox, then create a new mailbox in the other
stores, it works ok.  It is thus only the move function which seems not
to work.

Whilst troubleshooting another issue over the weekend I stumbled across
an article which mentioned the system attendant accounts.  Unfortunately
I can't remember how I got there to read it further but I think it said
you could delete those accounts as they aren't needed, and I'm wondering
if this has a bearing?


Anyone experienced something similar?

Thanks

Dave


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RE: Deleting both Information Stores?

2003-02-17 Thread John Matteson
In Exchange 5.5 you need at least one store on the server, even a
connector server, so that NDR's and the like have a place to go.

John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.



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New 5.5 SP4 server, it's just going to run connectors.

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Paul Robichaux implies they can both be deleted, but when I try to do so
I get the message You cannot remove the last information store from a
server.

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Deleting both Information Stores?

2003-02-14 Thread Paul Hutchings
New 5.5 SP4 server, it's just going to run connectors.

I've deleted the Private IS, now I want to remove the Public IS.  The Paul
Robichaux implies they can both be deleted, but when I try to do so I get
the message You cannot remove the last information store from a server.

Any ideas, or can it just not be done?

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RE: Deleting both Information Stores?

2003-02-14 Thread McBee, Jim
Paul:
Yes, both of the stores can be deleted, but I have never had to
delete them both at the same time.  Just out of curiosity, why do you
want to delete both stores?  Couldn't shutting down the Information
Store service accomplish the same thing?  (Unless the services you are
running depend on the IS?)

Thanks,
Jim


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New 5.5 SP4 server, it's just going to run connectors.

I've deleted the Private IS, now I want to remove the Public IS.  The
Paul Robichaux implies they can both be deleted, but when I try to do so
I get the message You cannot remove the last information store from a
server.

Any ideas, or can it just not be done?

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Paul
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RE: Deleting both Information Stores?

2003-02-14 Thread Paul Hutchings
Misguided logic I think - if I don't need to use does it need to be there
was my theory, but playing with the IMS and the event service shows they
(appear to) need to be there even if they're empty.

regards
Paul

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Paul:
Yes, both of the stores can be deleted, but I have never had to
delete them both at the same time.  Just out of curiosity, why do you
want to delete both stores?  Couldn't shutting down the Information
Store service accomplish the same thing?  (Unless the services you are
running depend on the IS?)

Thanks,
Jim


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Subject: Deleting both Information Stores?


New 5.5 SP4 server, it's just going to run connectors.

I've deleted the Private IS, now I want to remove the Public IS.  The
Paul Robichaux implies they can both be deleted, but when I try to do so
I get the message You cannot remove the last information store from a
server.

Any ideas, or can it just not be done?

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Paul
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RE: Deleting both Information Stores?

2003-02-14 Thread Ed Crowley
The IMS requires the store.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
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Subject: RE: Deleting both Information Stores?


Misguided logic I think - if I don't need to use does it need to be
there was my theory, but playing with the IMS and the event service
shows they (appear to) need to be there even if they're empty.

regards
Paul

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From: McBee, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 February 2003 19:02
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deleting both Information Stores? [bcc]


Paul:
Yes, both of the stores can be deleted, but I have never had to
delete them both at the same time.  Just out of curiosity, why do you
want to delete both stores?  Couldn't shutting down the Information
Store service accomplish the same thing?  (Unless the services you are
running depend on the IS?)

Thanks,
Jim


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Posted At: Friday, February 14, 2003 4:14 AM
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Subject: Deleting both Information Stores?


New 5.5 SP4 server, it's just going to run connectors.

I've deleted the Private IS, now I want to remove the Public IS.  The
Paul Robichaux implies they can both be deleted, but when I try to do so
I get the message You cannot remove the last information store from a
server.

Any ideas, or can it just not be done?

regards,
Paul
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RE: Deleting both Information Stores?

2003-02-14 Thread McBee, Jim
I do follow your logic on if it ain't used, don't run it!.  I
subscribe to that myself.  Sometimes great care has to be taken when
determining which services are necessary and which are not.  I have had
a couple of interesting experiences disabling services on Exchange 2000.
:-)  

Yep, the IMS puts all inbound mail in to the private information store,
so it is required if the server is running an IMS.   

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Subject: RE: Deleting both Information Stores?


Misguided logic I think - if I don't need to use does it need to be
there was my theory, but playing with the IMS and the event service
shows they (appear to) need to be there even if they're empty.

regards
Paul

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From: McBee, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 February 2003 19:02
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deleting both Information Stores? [bcc]


Paul:
Yes, both of the stores can be deleted, but I have never had to
delete them both at the same time.  Just out of curiosity, why do you
want to delete both stores?  Couldn't shutting down the Information
Store service accomplish the same thing?  (Unless the services you are
running depend on the IS?)

Thanks,
Jim


-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, February 14, 2003 4:14 AM
Posted To: Exchange Technical Mailing List
Conversation: Deleting both Information Stores?
Subject: Deleting both Information Stores?


New 5.5 SP4 server, it's just going to run connectors.

I've deleted the Private IS, now I want to remove the Public IS.  The
Paul Robichaux implies they can both be deleted, but when I try to do so
I get the message You cannot remove the last information store from a
server.

Any ideas, or can it just not be done?

regards,
Paul
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RE: Deleting both Information Stores?

2003-02-14 Thread Paul Hutchings
Thanks Ed - I found that out the fun way :-)  Looks like the Event Service
needs the Public IS as well?

I may just remove the Event Service (as this is primarily a connector
server) and then remove the Public IS totally.

Am I right in thinking that the eventconfig public folder has to live on the
relevent server, whereas setting the Public Folder Server value on the
Private IS properties controls where new user-created public folders default
to?

regards
Paul

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Sent: 14 February 2003 19:26
To: Exchange Discussions
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The IMS requires the store.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul Hutchings
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 11:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deleting both Information Stores?


Misguided logic I think - if I don't need to use does it need to be
there was my theory, but playing with the IMS and the event service
shows they (appear to) need to be there even if they're empty.

regards
Paul

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From: McBee, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 February 2003 19:02
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deleting both Information Stores? [bcc]


Paul:
Yes, both of the stores can be deleted, but I have never had to
delete them both at the same time.  Just out of curiosity, why do you
want to delete both stores?  Couldn't shutting down the Information
Store service accomplish the same thing?  (Unless the services you are
running depend on the IS?)

Thanks,
Jim


-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, February 14, 2003 4:14 AM
Posted To: Exchange Technical Mailing List
Conversation: Deleting both Information Stores?
Subject: Deleting both Information Stores?


New 5.5 SP4 server, it's just going to run connectors.

I've deleted the Private IS, now I want to remove the Public IS.  The
Paul Robichaux implies they can both be deleted, but when I try to do so
I get the message You cannot remove the last information store from a
server.

Any ideas, or can it just not be done?

regards,
Paul
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RE: Deleting both Information Stores?

2003-02-14 Thread Ed Crowley
If you don't have an IS, you don't need the Event Service, since you
won't have anything to generate events.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 11:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deleting both Information Stores?


Thanks Ed - I found that out the fun way :-)  Looks like the Event
Service needs the Public IS as well?

I may just remove the Event Service (as this is primarily a connector
server) and then remove the Public IS totally.

Am I right in thinking that the eventconfig public folder has to live on
the relevent server, whereas setting the Public Folder Server value on
the Private IS properties controls where new user-created public folders
default to?

regards
Paul

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 February 2003 19:26
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deleting both Information Stores? [bcc]


The IMS requires the store.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul Hutchings
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 11:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deleting both Information Stores?


Misguided logic I think - if I don't need to use does it need to be
there was my theory, but playing with the IMS and the event service
shows they (appear to) need to be there even if they're empty.

regards
Paul

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From: McBee, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 February 2003 19:02
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deleting both Information Stores? [bcc]


Paul:
Yes, both of the stores can be deleted, but I have never had to
delete them both at the same time.  Just out of curiosity, why do you
want to delete both stores?  Couldn't shutting down the Information
Store service accomplish the same thing?  (Unless the services you are
running depend on the IS?)

Thanks,
Jim


-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, February 14, 2003 4:14 AM
Posted To: Exchange Technical Mailing List
Conversation: Deleting both Information Stores?
Subject: Deleting both Information Stores?


New 5.5 SP4 server, it's just going to run connectors.

I've deleted the Private IS, now I want to remove the Public IS.  The
Paul Robichaux implies they can both be deleted, but when I try to do so
I get the message You cannot remove the last information store from a
server.

Any ideas, or can it just not be done?

regards,
Paul
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RE: Deleting both Information Stores?

2003-02-14 Thread Ed Crowley
As to the philosophy of disabling services you don't need, feel free to
stop and disable the Event Service if you don't have any event scripts
installed.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul Hutchings
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 11:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deleting both Information Stores?


Thanks Ed - I found that out the fun way :-)  Looks like the Event
Service needs the Public IS as well?

I may just remove the Event Service (as this is primarily a connector
server) and then remove the Public IS totally.

Am I right in thinking that the eventconfig public folder has to live on
the relevent server, whereas setting the Public Folder Server value on
the Private IS properties controls where new user-created public folders
default to?

regards
Paul

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 February 2003 19:26
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deleting both Information Stores? [bcc]


The IMS requires the store.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul Hutchings
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 11:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deleting both Information Stores?


Misguided logic I think - if I don't need to use does it need to be
there was my theory, but playing with the IMS and the event service
shows they (appear to) need to be there even if they're empty.

regards
Paul

-Original Message-
From: McBee, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 February 2003 19:02
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Deleting both Information Stores? [bcc]


Paul:
Yes, both of the stores can be deleted, but I have never had to
delete them both at the same time.  Just out of curiosity, why do you
want to delete both stores?  Couldn't shutting down the Information
Store service accomplish the same thing?  (Unless the services you are
running depend on the IS?)

Thanks,
Jim


-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, February 14, 2003 4:14 AM
Posted To: Exchange Technical Mailing List
Conversation: Deleting both Information Stores?
Subject: Deleting both Information Stores?


New 5.5 SP4 server, it's just going to run connectors.

I've deleted the Private IS, now I want to remove the Public IS.  The
Paul Robichaux implies they can both be deleted, but when I try to do so
I get the message You cannot remove the last information store from a
server.

Any ideas, or can it just not be done?

regards,
Paul
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Stores

2002-08-19 Thread Daniel L. Miller

I've tried creating a new storage group.  After creation, it won't allow me
to add any mail stores - though it seems public stores are acceptable.
What's wrong?

What I really want to do is MOVE a store/storage group.  My primary storage
group currently resides on my system partition and I want to shift it to my
data partition.  How can I do this?


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RE: Stores

2002-08-19 Thread Mark Fugatt

Daniel

It sounds like you are running Exchange 2000 Standard and not Enterprise.

Mark Fugatt

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Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 3:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Stores


I've tried creating a new storage group.  After creation, it won't allow me
to add any mail stores - though it seems public stores are acceptable.
What's wrong?

What I really want to do is MOVE a store/storage group.  My primary storage
group currently resides on my system partition and I want to shift it to my
data partition.  How can I do this?


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RE: Stores

2002-08-19 Thread Daniel L. Miller

Correct

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Subject: RE: Stores


Daniel

It sounds like you are running Exchange 2000 Standard and not Enterprise.

Mark Fugatt

-Original Message-
From: Daniel L. Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 3:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Stores


I've tried creating a new storage group.  After creation, it won't allow me
to add any mail stores - though it seems public stores are acceptable.
What's wrong?

What I really want to do is MOVE a store/storage group.  My primary storage
group currently resides on my system partition and I want to shift it to my
data partition.  How can I do this?


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Fw: Stores

2002-08-19 Thread Missy Koslosky

Standard does not allow for multiple private information stores.
- Original Message - 
From: Daniel L. Miller 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 12:09 PM
Subject: RE: Stores


Correct

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 4:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stores


Daniel

It sounds like you are running Exchange 2000 Standard and not Enterprise.

Mark Fugatt

-Original Message-
From: Daniel L. Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 3:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Stores


I've tried creating a new storage group.  After creation, it won't allow me
to add any mail stores - though it seems public stores are acceptable.
What's wrong?

What I really want to do is MOVE a store/storage group.  My primary storage
group currently resides on my system partition and I want to shift it to my
data partition.  How can I do this?


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RE: Stores

2002-08-19 Thread Daniel L. Miller

Well, that answers question #1.

Is it possible to move/relocate the primary message store?

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Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 10:25 AM
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Subject: Fw: Stores


Standard does not allow for multiple private information stores.
- Original Message -
From: Daniel L. Miller
To: Exchange Discussions
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 12:09 PM
Subject: RE: Stores


Correct

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Fugatt
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 4:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stores


Daniel

It sounds like you are running Exchange 2000 Standard and not Enterprise.

Mark Fugatt

-Original Message-
From: Daniel L. Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 3:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Stores


I've tried creating a new storage group.  After creation, it won't allow me
to add any mail stores - though it seems public stores are acceptable.
What's wrong?

What I really want to do is MOVE a store/storage group.  My primary storage
group currently resides on my system partition and I want to shift it to my
data partition.  How can I do this?


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RE: Stores

2002-08-19 Thread Chris Levis

Yep.  Right-click the store in the Exch Manager... under one of the tabs is
the option on where to keep the store.  Just change that option, and the
store will be taken offline while it's moved.

-Original Message-
From: Daniel L. Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 1:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stores


Well, that answers question #1.

Is it possible to move/relocate the primary message store?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Missy Koslosky
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 10:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Fw: Stores


Standard does not allow for multiple private information stores.
- Original Message -
From: Daniel L. Miller
To: Exchange Discussions
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 12:09 PM
Subject: RE: Stores


Correct

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Fugatt
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 4:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stores


Daniel

It sounds like you are running Exchange 2000 Standard and not Enterprise.

Mark Fugatt

-Original Message-
From: Daniel L. Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 3:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Stores


I've tried creating a new storage group.  After creation, it won't allow me
to add any mail stores - though it seems public stores are acceptable.
What's wrong?

What I really want to do is MOVE a store/storage group.  My primary storage
group currently resides on my system partition and I want to shift it to my
data partition.  How can I do this?


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Re: Stores

2002-08-19 Thread Missy Koslosky

Absolutely.
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From: Daniel L. Miller 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 1:39 PM
Subject: RE: Stores


Well, that answers question #1.

Is it possible to move/relocate the primary message store?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Missy Koslosky
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 10:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Fw: Stores


Standard does not allow for multiple private information stores.
- Original Message -
From: Daniel L. Miller
To: Exchange Discussions
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 12:09 PM
Subject: RE: Stores


Correct

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Fugatt
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 4:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stores


Daniel

It sounds like you are running Exchange 2000 Standard and not Enterprise.

Mark Fugatt

-Original Message-
From: Daniel L. Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 3:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Stores


I've tried creating a new storage group.  After creation, it won't allow me
to add any mail stores - though it seems public stores are acceptable.
What's wrong?

What I really want to do is MOVE a store/storage group.  My primary storage
group currently resides on my system partition and I want to shift it to my
data partition.  How can I do this?


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RE: Stores

2002-08-19 Thread Charles Carerros

Try this.

Of course this is assuming you are using E2K next time you might want to
include that information when you post a question.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q257184;

chuck

-Original Message-
From: Daniel L. Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 2:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Stores


I've tried creating a new storage group.  After creation, it won't allow
me to add any mail stores - though it seems public stores are
acceptable. What's wrong?

What I really want to do is MOVE a store/storage group.  My primary
storage group currently resides on my system partition and I want to
shift it to my data partition.  How can I do this?


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Default Mailbox Stores E2K Enterprise

2002-08-16 Thread Crump, Jay

What's the official recommendation for the default stores on the Enterprise version?  
I currently have 10 enterprise exchange in production - none of which use the default 
store.  They (default stores) are pretty much all original size (minor mishaps with 
other admins inadvertently placing mbx'es in the wrong place), so I'm not concerned 
about the space I could gain back

BUT - are the default stores removable?  Safe to move the SA's mailbox to another 
store?

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 8:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: priv1.edb


The Enterprise version of Exchange allows for multiple storage groups
with multiple information stores.  

William

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marc Mearns
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 5:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: priv1.edb


William

Any chance of you expanding on your third sentence?

Regards

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 August 2002 10:39
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: priv1.edb


By having users delete content from their mailboxes and then running the
eseutil utility to remove the whitespace generated by deleting.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q192185

You can also use the mailbox management features of exchange to force
deletion of old items to create white space.

If you have enterprise, you can move the contents to priv2.edb. ;o)

William

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kim Schotanus
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 2:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: priv1.edb


Hi, 

How can I drastically reduce the size of priv1.edb on my Exch 2K?

Kim


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RE: Have Exchange Antivirus that scans stores and connector... sh ould client antivirus be installed as well?

2002-08-16 Thread Atkinson, Miles

Apologies, in case that whilst I've been un-sub'ed for vacation someone has
posted this.  But have you seen www.makeashorterlink.com?

-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey Dubyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 26 July 2002 11:21
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Have Exchange Antivirus that scans stores and connector...
should client antivirus be installed as well?


At most customer sites, we use Norton Antivirus Corporate Edition and Norton
Antivirus for MS Exchange.  They have a good doc that explains what to
Exchange directories to exclude (link is wrapped):

http://service4.symantec.com/SUPPORT/ent-security.nsf/552ba2f7636bedf088
256818006f78bf/bfaa6df92d548a2788256a220027256d?OpenDocumentprev=http:/
/search.symantec.com/custom/us/techsupp/enterprise/kb/query.html?*col=kb
%20us*st=1*nh=10*pcode=*qp=url:/ent-security.nsf/552ba2f7636bedf08825681
8006f78bf*qt=%2Bexchange%20%2Bexclude*miniver=nav_76_ce*sone=nav_76_ce_t
asks.html*stg=*prod=Norton%20AntiVirus*ver=7.6%20Corporate%20Edition*bas
e=http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/enterprise/products/nav/nav_76_ce/*ne
xt=*boolean=andsone=nav_76_ce_tasks.htmlstg=prod=Norton%20AntiVirusv
er=7.6%20Corporate%20Editionbase=http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/enter
prise/products/nav/nav_76_ce/next=src=entpcode=dtype=corpsvy=

If link doesn't work, go to the knowledgebase for NAVCE 7.6 and search for
exchange exclude .  

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RE: Have Exchange Antivirus that scans stores and connector... should client antivirus be installed as well?

2002-07-26 Thread Tom Meunier

*MAY* wrap?  LOL.  Decapitation may be hazardous to your health, too.

For future reference, you can always get a shorter link to Symantec's KB
articles by clicking on the Printer-friendly version link at the top
of the page.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jeffrey Dubyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Posted At: Friday, July 26, 2002 05:21 AM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: Have Exchange Antivirus that scans stores and 
 connector... should client antivirus be installed as well?
 Subject: RE: Have Exchange Antivirus that scans stores and 
 connector... should client antivirus be installed as well?
 
 
 At most customer sites, we use Norton Antivirus Corporate 
 Edition and Norton Antivirus for MS Exchange.  They have a 
 good doc that explains what to Exchange directories to 
 exclude (link is wrapped):
 
 http://service4.symantec.com/SUPPORT/ent-security.nsf/552ba2f7
 636bedf088
 256818006f78bf/bfaa6df92d548a2788256a220027256d?OpenDocumentp
 rev=http:/
 /search.symantec.com/custom/us/techsupp/enterprise/kb/query.ht
 ml?*col=kb
 %20us*st=1*nh=10*pcode=*qp=url:/ent-security.nsf/552ba2f7636be
 df08825681
 8006f78bf*qt=%2Bexchange%20%2Bexclude*miniver=nav_76_ce*sone=n
 av_76_ce_t
 asks.html*stg=*prod=Norton%20AntiVirus*ver=7.6%20Corporate%20E
 dition*bas
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 If link doesn't work, go to the knowledgebase for NAVCE 7.6 
 and search for exchange exclude .  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jason Brown
 Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 6:01 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Have Exchange Antivirus that scans stores and 
 connector... should client antivirus be installed as well?
 
 
 We currently have Trend Scanmail 6.0 installed on our 
 Exchange 2000 server, but this software doesn't scan the 
 drives.  Is there really a need for client antirus software?  
 I'm concerned about having 2 antivirus programs running 
 together on the same box.  Performance is a concern as well.  
 Any suggestions?
 
 TIA!
 
 -Jason
 
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Have Exchange Antivirus that scans stores and connector... should client antivirus be installed as well?

2002-07-25 Thread Jason Brown

We currently have Trend Scanmail 6.0 installed on our Exchange 2000 server, but this 
software doesn't scan the drives.  Is there really a need for client antirus software? 
 I'm concerned about having 2 antivirus programs running together on the same box.  
Performance is a concern as well.  Any suggestions?

TIA!

-Jason

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RE: Have Exchange Antivirus that scans stores and connector... should client antivirus be installed as well?

2002-07-25 Thread David Florea

You won't have any conflict if you just ensure your client program doesn't touch the 
Exchange store, drive M, or anything else to do with Exchange.  On the other hand, I 
usually don't run a client AV on my Exchange box.  You can, however, if you wish.


-Original Message-
From: Jason Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 3:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Have Exchange Antivirus that scans stores and connector...
should client antivirus be installed as well?


We currently have Trend Scanmail 6.0 installed on our Exchange 2000 server, but this 
software doesn't scan the drives.  Is there really a need for client antirus software? 
 I'm concerned about having 2 antivirus programs running together on the same box.  
Performance is a concern as well.  Any suggestions?

TIA!

-Jason

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RE: Have Exchange Antivirus that scans stores and connector... should client antivirus be installed as well?

2002-07-25 Thread David N. Precht

No.
Only install an Exchange-aware/compliant AV software.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jason Brown
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 18:01
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Have Exchange Antivirus that scans stores and connector...
should client antivirus be installed as well?


We currently have Trend Scanmail 6.0 installed on our Exchange 2000
server, but this software doesn't scan the drives.  Is there really a
need for client antirus software?  I'm concerned about having 2
antivirus programs running together on the same box.  Performance is a
concern as well.  Any suggestions?

TIA!

-Jason

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RE: Have Exchange Antivirus that scans stores and connector...sh ould client antivirus be installed as well?

2002-07-25 Thread Andy David

Some would disagree.


-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 6:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Have Exchange Antivirus that scans stores and connector...
should client antivirus be installed as well?


No.
Only install an Exchange-aware/compliant AV software.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jason Brown
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 18:01
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Have Exchange Antivirus that scans stores and connector...
should client antivirus be installed as well?


We currently have Trend Scanmail 6.0 installed on our Exchange 2000
server, but this software doesn't scan the drives.  Is there really a
need for client antirus software?  I'm concerned about having 2
antivirus programs running together on the same box.  Performance is a
concern as well.  Any suggestions?

TIA!

-Jason

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RE: Have Exchange Antivirus that scans stores and connector... sh ould client antivirus be installed as well?

2002-07-25 Thread Candee Vaglica

If your Exchange server also serves as a file server, you'll want both types
of AV.
And you'll want to exclude everything Exchange on the file level scanner.


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Have Exchange Antivirus that scans stores and connector...
sh ould client antivirus be installed as well?


Some would disagree.


-Original Message-
From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 6:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Have Exchange Antivirus that scans stores and connector...
should client antivirus be installed as well?


No.
Only install an Exchange-aware/compliant AV software.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jason Brown
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 18:01
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Have Exchange Antivirus that scans stores and connector...
should client antivirus be installed as well?


We currently have Trend Scanmail 6.0 installed on our Exchange 2000
server, but this software doesn't scan the drives.  Is there really a
need for client antirus software?  I'm concerned about having 2
antivirus programs running together on the same box.  Performance is a
concern as well.  Any suggestions?

TIA!

-Jason

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Moving exchange stores

2002-07-01 Thread MS Exchange Discussions

Good morning,
We have added a new storage box in our E2K cluster environment.  We have
relocated the Information Stores (priv, pub.edb/stm), transaction logs
and system path...  The one thing that we have not done is to move the
MTA database. According to Q259896, it's pretty much straight forward.
Has anyone done it before that runs E2K Cluster?  Are there anything
else that I need to move before I can extract the old storage box?

Thanks in advance.

~justin

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RE: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of stores

2002-05-29 Thread Webb, Andy

If I recall, you take a 100MB hit for each SG you load and another 10MB hit for each 
IS within the SG.  That's just to get the system started.  Once the dynamic buffer 
caching starts growing the allocation to hold the active data, it's more.

As Chris said, fragmentation of memory starts to become a problem.  If you ever shut 
down one of the stores or SG's for any reason on a system that fully loaded, you may 
not be able to start it back up without a full restart.

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-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 12:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number
of stores


The theoretical 90 was scaled back to 20 for RTM and even at 20 I have
doubts about the long term stability of a system which has all of them
mounted due to memory fragmentation issues Perhaps when 64 bit windows
is a common thing.

-Original Message-
From: Felicity Smith
To: Exchange Discussions
Sent: 5/22/2002 12:20 PM
Subject: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of
stores

I thought you could create 15 storage groups and 6 stores per Exchange
2000 server.

I currently have 4 storage groups and a max of five stores per storage
groups.  If I try to add another store Exchange complains saying the
Storage Group already contains the maximum number of stores allowed.

If I try to add another storage group I get a message from Exchange
complaining - This server already contains the maximum number of storage
groups allowed.

Can someone explain this to me.

TIA

--Felicity

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? about the number of storage groups per server and number of stores

2002-05-22 Thread Felicity Smith

I thought you could create 15 storage groups and 6 stores per Exchange
2000 server.

I currently have 4 storage groups and a max of five stores per storage
groups.  If I try to add another store Exchange complains saying the
Storage Group already contains the maximum number of stores allowed.

If I try to add another storage group I get a message from Exchange
complaining - This server already contains the maximum number of storage
groups allowed.

Can someone explain this to me.

TIA

--Felicity

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RE: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of stores

2002-05-22 Thread John Matteson

The underlying programming was built for 15 SG and 6 MDB's per SG, however,
practical limitations kick in with 4. All the Official MS documentation
says that Exchange 2K Enterprise version is limited to 4 SG's and 5 MDB's
per SG.

You have to remember that each SG is a separate storage engine, requiring
it's own memory space and a big slice of processor time.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981

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-Original Message-
From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 1:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of
stores


I thought you could create 15 storage groups and 6 stores per Exchange
2000 server.

I currently have 4 storage groups and a max of five stores per storage
groups.  If I try to add another store Exchange complains saying the
Storage Group already contains the maximum number of stores allowed.

If I try to add another storage group I get a message from Exchange
complaining - This server already contains the maximum number of storage
groups allowed.

Can someone explain this to me.

TIA

--Felicity

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RE: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of stores

2002-05-22 Thread Felicity Smith

Thank you very much John.  You are AMAZING!

--Felicity
 The underlying programming was built for 15 SG and 6 MDB's per SG, however,
 practical limitations kick in with 4. All the Official MS documentation
 says that Exchange 2K Enterprise version is limited to 4 SG's and 5 MDB's
 per SG.
 
 You have to remember that each SG is a separate storage engine, requiring
 it's own memory space and a big slice of processor time.
 
 John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
 Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
 (404) 239 - 2981
 
 Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has been
 accepted as a reality. To me, defeat in anything is merely temporary, and
 its punishment is but an urge for me to greater effort to achieve my goal.
 Defeat simply tells me that something is wrong in my doing; it is a path
 leading to success and truth. --Bruce Lee
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 1:20 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of
 stores
 
 
 I thought you could create 15 storage groups and 6 stores per Exchange
 2000 server.
 
 I currently have 4 storage groups and a max of five stores per storage
 groups.  If I try to add another store Exchange complains saying the
 Storage Group already contains the maximum number of stores allowed.
 
 If I try to add another storage group I get a message from Exchange
 complaining - This server already contains the maximum number of storage
 groups allowed.
 
 Can someone explain this to me.
 
 TIA
 
 --Felicity
 
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RE: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of stores

2002-05-22 Thread Chris Scharff

The theoretical 90 was scaled back to 20 for RTM and even at 20 I have
doubts about the long term stability of a system which has all of them
mounted due to memory fragmentation issues Perhaps when 64 bit windows
is a common thing.

-Original Message-
From: Felicity Smith
To: Exchange Discussions
Sent: 5/22/2002 12:20 PM
Subject: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of
stores

I thought you could create 15 storage groups and 6 stores per Exchange
2000 server.

I currently have 4 storage groups and a max of five stores per storage
groups.  If I try to add another store Exchange complains saying the
Storage Group already contains the maximum number of stores allowed.

If I try to add another storage group I get a message from Exchange
complaining - This server already contains the maximum number of storage
groups allowed.

Can someone explain this to me.

TIA

--Felicity

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RE: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of stores

2002-05-22 Thread Felicity Smith

Thank you for this clarification Chris.

-- Felicity
 The theoretical 90 was scaled back to 20 for RTM and even at 20 I have
 doubts about the long term stability of a system which has all of them
 mounted due to memory fragmentation issues Perhaps when 64 bit windows
 is a common thing.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Felicity Smith
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: 5/22/2002 12:20 PM
 Subject: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of
 stores
 
 I thought you could create 15 storage groups and 6 stores per Exchange
 2000 server.
 
 I currently have 4 storage groups and a max of five stores per storage
 groups.  If I try to add another store Exchange complains saying the
 Storage Group already contains the maximum number of stores allowed.
 
 If I try to add another storage group I get a message from Exchange
 complaining - This server already contains the maximum number of storage
 groups allowed.
 
 Can someone explain this to me.
 
 TIA
 
 --Felicity

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RE: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of stores

2002-05-22 Thread John Matteson

Not really. I finished that class two weeks ago.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981

Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has been
accepted as a reality. To me, defeat in anything is merely temporary, and
its punishment is but an urge for me to greater effort to achieve my goal.
Defeat simply tells me that something is wrong in my doing; it is a path
leading to success and truth. --Bruce Lee



-Original Message-
From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 1:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number
of stores


Thank you very much John.  You are AMAZING!

--Felicity
 The underlying programming was built for 15 SG and 6 MDB's per SG,
however,
 practical limitations kick in with 4. All the Official MS documentation
 says that Exchange 2K Enterprise version is limited to 4 SG's and 5 MDB's
 per SG.
 
 You have to remember that each SG is a separate storage engine, requiring
 it's own memory space and a big slice of processor time.
 
 John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
 Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
 (404) 239 - 2981
 
 Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has been
 accepted as a reality. To me, defeat in anything is merely temporary, and
 its punishment is but an urge for me to greater effort to achieve my goal.
 Defeat simply tells me that something is wrong in my doing; it is a path
 leading to success and truth. --Bruce Lee
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 1:20 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of
 stores
 
 
 I thought you could create 15 storage groups and 6 stores per Exchange
 2000 server.
 
 I currently have 4 storage groups and a max of five stores per storage
 groups.  If I try to add another store Exchange complains saying the
 Storage Group already contains the maximum number of stores allowed.
 
 If I try to add another storage group I get a message from Exchange
 complaining - This server already contains the maximum number of storage
 groups allowed.
 
 Can someone explain this to me.
 
 TIA
 
 --Felicity
 
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Move of E2K Stores to SAN

2002-05-14 Thread Pennell, Ronald B.

Is there any special provisions for moving the individual stores from the
local system to a SAN?  Planning on 16
stores for the company all sharing a large chuck of SAN storage.  

Ron

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RE: Move of E2K Stores to SAN

2002-05-14 Thread Ryan Finnesey

Nope the box looks at the SAN storage has if the LUNs are local to the
box.  The only problem I have had is with the SCISI time out setting on
some SANs.  What type of SAN are you moving to?







Ryan,


-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 10:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Move of E2K Stores to SAN

Is there any special provisions for moving the individual stores from
the
local system to a SAN?  Planning on 16
stores for the company all sharing a large chuck of SAN storage.  

Ron

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Info stores

2002-05-10 Thread Woodruff, Michael

Exch2k SP2.  Quick question.  Probably a stupid one.  My priv info store
says it is 6.5 gig, but the users only add up to about 2 gig or so.  My pub
is 7 gig.  Why is it so big?  Thanks.

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RE: Info stores

2002-05-10 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

Bloated

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Info stores


Exch2k SP2.  Quick question.  Probably a stupid one.  My priv info store
says it is 6.5 gig, but the users only add up to about 2 gig or so.  My pub
is 7 gig.  Why is it so big?  Thanks.

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Re: Info stores

2002-05-10 Thread missy koslosky

Check your event logs for 1221 information events.  You have mucho white
space - no biggie.
- Original Message -
From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:46 PM
Subject: Info stores


Exch2k SP2.  Quick question.  Probably a stupid one.  My priv info store
says it is 6.5 gig, but the users only add up to about 2 gig or so.  My
pub
is 7 gig.  Why is it so big?  Thanks.

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Message Stores

2002-01-07 Thread Michael Anderson

Hello,

If we are hosting multiple domains, and it's critical to separate
the data from one company to the other for security reasons, would 
we need to create a message store for each and every virtual domain
that we create?

Thanks,

Mike


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RE: Message Stores

2002-01-07 Thread Thomas Di Nardo

Have you looked at the ASP hosting documentation out at Microsoft.com? I
believe there are a number of good white papers on hosting Exchange
which cover this in good detail.
 
Tom


-Original Message-
From: Michael Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 11:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Message Stores

Hello,

If we are hosting multiple domains, and it's critical to separate
the data from one company to the other for security reasons, would 
we need to create a message store for each and every virtual domain
that we create?

Thanks,

Mike


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RE: Message Stores

2002-01-07 Thread Chris Scharff

If you really need true data separation, you need separate servers in
separate Exchange organizations IMHO.  

Chris
-- 
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Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:07 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Message Stores
 
 
 Hello,
 
 If we are hosting multiple domains, and it's critical to 
 separate the data from one company to the other for security 
 reasons, would 
 we need to create a message store for each and every virtual 
 domain that we create?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Mike
 
 
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RE: Exchange 2000 - unable to mount mail stores

2001-12-18 Thread Rob Yeldon

Thanks  Wilson

We did lose SI of all attachments, but that did not explain size.  Size
also changed some 2 weeks after Exchange 2000 set up, following serious
degradation in performance especially noticeable in one Public Folder
contact folder which eventually did not restore form the backup.  (see
response to /Peter).

Agree with circular logging comment thanks.

Regards

Rob

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Exchange 2000 - unable to mount mail stores

2001-12-17 Thread Rob Yeldon

Following what seems to be a large number of (5MB)log files, our Exchaneg
server was playing up.

We moved the log files to another location and things went back to normal.
 The same thing repeated itself 1 week later.  Moved the log files again
and since then all the services start up without a problem, however the
mail stores will not mount.

Public mail store is abnormally large - 6GB - was 50MB under Exchange 5.5.

Thanks for any assistance.

Regards

Rob

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Re: Exchange 2000 - unable to mount mail stores

2001-12-17 Thread Peter Szabo

Rob,

You HAD a mail loop,  50 MB Priv. store? My server at home has a priv.edb
biger than 1GB.
BTW: walk away from the server, get a professional to fix it and get
yourself a good exchange book. Read it, read it again and then maybe you are
alowed back to the server.

/Peter

- Original Message -
From: Rob Yeldon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 7:13 PM
Subject: Exchange 2000 - unable to mount mail stores


 Following what seems to be a large number of (5MB)log files, our Exchaneg
 server was playing up.

 We moved the log files to another location and things went back to normal.
  The same thing repeated itself 1 week later.  Moved the log files again
 and since then all the services start up without a problem, however the
 mail stores will not mount.

 Public mail store is abnormally large - 6GB - was 50MB under Exchange 5.5.

 Thanks for any assistance.

 Regards

 Rob

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Re: Exchange 2000 - unable to mount mail stores

2001-12-17 Thread Peter Szabo

You do have backups, right?

/P
- Original Message -
From: Rob Yeldon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 7:13 PM
Subject: Exchange 2000 - unable to mount mail stores


 Following what seems to be a large number of (5MB)log files, our Exchaneg
 server was playing up.

 We moved the log files to another location and things went back to normal.
  The same thing repeated itself 1 week later.  Moved the log files again
 and since then all the services start up without a problem, however the
 mail stores will not mount.

 Public mail store is abnormally large - 6GB - was 50MB under Exchange 5.5.

 Thanks for any assistance.

 Regards

 Rob

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RE: Exchange 2000 - unable to mount mail stores

2001-12-17 Thread Varghese, Wilson

If you moved mailboxes from your 5.5 to 2000, then you probably lost your
single instance of all the attachments.. that could be a reason for your
increase in DB size.  Also during mailbox moves, a lot of log files are
created, I turned on circular logging during the mailbox move process so it
wouldn't create so many log files.  Then turned circular logging off after I
was done.  

As for not being able to mount your store.. There can be 100 reasons, check
all the event errors and see if any of them point you in the right
direction.

Wilson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From:   Rob Yeldon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Sunday, December 16, 2001 4:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:Exchange 2000 - unable to mount mail stores

Following what seems to be a large number of (5MB)log files, our Exchaneg
server was playing up.

We moved the log files to another location and things went back to normal.
 The same thing repeated itself 1 week later.  Moved the log files again
and since then all the services start up without a problem, however the
mail stores will not mount.

Public mail store is abnormally large - 6GB - was 50MB under Exchange 5.5.

Thanks for any assistance.

Regards

Rob

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Re: Exchange 2000 - unable to mount mail stores

2001-12-17 Thread Peter Szabo

Wilson,

He would have the highest SIS in history. Greater than 1:100 G

/P
- Original Message -
From: Varghese, Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:02 PM
Subject: RE: Exchange 2000 - unable to mount mail stores


 If you moved mailboxes from your 5.5 to 2000, then you probably lost your
 single instance of all the attachments.. that could be a reason for your
 increase in DB size.  Also during mailbox moves, a lot of log files are
 created, I turned on circular logging during the mailbox move process so
it
 wouldn't create so many log files.  Then turned circular logging off after
I
 was done.

 As for not being able to mount your store.. There can be 100 reasons,
check
 all the event errors and see if any of them point you in the right
 direction.

 Wilson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Yeldon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 4:14 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Exchange 2000 - unable to mount mail stores

 Following what seems to be a large number of (5MB)log files, our Exchaneg
 server was playing up.

 We moved the log files to another location and things went back to normal.
  The same thing repeated itself 1 week later.  Moved the log files again
 and since then all the services start up without a problem, however the
 mail stores will not mount.

 Public mail store is abnormally large - 6GB - was 50MB under Exchange 5.5.

 Thanks for any assistance.

 Regards

 Rob

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RE: Storage Groups vs Mailbox Stores

2001-12-02 Thread Duane Purcell

Thanks everyone for the input.

Regards

-Original Message-
From: Robert Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2001 7:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Storage Groups vs Mailbox Stores


We have specified multiple stores in storage groups for our 2000
deployment,
but as yet, we haven't decided who will go where.

If you put all the payroll users on one store, you may get quite a good
single instance ratio, and can set policies for those users, etc, which
is
good.

However, if you have a problem with that store, you have the whole of
payroll to contend with.

We are also looking at 'users created/migrated this week go on store 1,
next
week on store 2, the week after on store 3, then back to store 1, etc'

Regards,

Rob Ellis
Messaging Consultant
Service Delivery Solutions  Programmes
IBM Global Services
DDI: 01256 752845
Mobile: 07974 111867
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Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 2:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Storage Groups vs Mailbox Stores

Mounting the first mailbox store in a storage group takes more resources
that mounting additional stores in a single storage group. So, from a
pure
resources point of view, there may be some advantages to multiple stores
in
fewer storage groups. All other things being equal, I think I generally
prefer it that way as well, although I personally don't have enough
practical experience with disaster recovery under a multitude of
scenarios
with E2K (thank $deity), so there are some parts of the 'optimal' E2K
design
which are still a bit theoretical in my mind.

Chris
-- 
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: Duane Purcell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:26 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Storage Groups vs Mailbox Stores
 
 
 Basically we want to move away from the large single IS 
 database and have several smaller ones which are more 
 managable (in event of disaster recovery, backup/restore, 
 offline maintanence, applying different mailbox limits, etc). 
  Also, assuming there is only a problem with one IS, we don't 
 this problem affecting all other users.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2001 10:39 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Storage Groups vs Mailbox Stores
 
 
 It's best to not let external hierarchies dictate how 
 technological solutions are developed.
 
 What is the point of this exercise? What do you hope to gain? 
 Is there a desired end result towards which you are working? 
 What are the perceived business benefits?
 
 Answer those first.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Duane Purcell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 5:26 PM
 Subject: Storage Groups vs Mailbox Stores
 
 
 I want to split up my staff mailboxes into relevant units eg, 
 payroll, managers, etc, on my E2k Enterprise server.  Is it 
 best to create mutiple Mailbox Stores under one Storage 
 Group, OR, just have several Storage Groups with the single 
 Mailbox Store.
 
 Is there any advantage going one way or the other?

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RE: Storage Groups vs Mailbox Stores

2001-11-28 Thread Robert Ellis

We have specified multiple stores in storage groups for our 2000 deployment,
but as yet, we haven't decided who will go where.

If you put all the payroll users on one store, you may get quite a good
single instance ratio, and can set policies for those users, etc, which is
good.

However, if you have a problem with that store, you have the whole of
payroll to contend with.

We are also looking at 'users created/migrated this week go on store 1, next
week on store 2, the week after on store 3, then back to store 1, etc'

Regards,

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-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 2:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Storage Groups vs Mailbox Stores

Mounting the first mailbox store in a storage group takes more resources
that mounting additional stores in a single storage group. So, from a pure
resources point of view, there may be some advantages to multiple stores in
fewer storage groups. All other things being equal, I think I generally
prefer it that way as well, although I personally don't have enough
practical experience with disaster recovery under a multitude of scenarios
with E2K (thank $deity), so there are some parts of the 'optimal' E2K design
which are still a bit theoretical in my mind.

Chris
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 -Original Message-
 From: Duane Purcell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:26 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Storage Groups vs Mailbox Stores
 
 
 Basically we want to move away from the large single IS 
 database and have several smaller ones which are more 
 managable (in event of disaster recovery, backup/restore, 
 offline maintanence, applying different mailbox limits, etc). 
  Also, assuming there is only a problem with one IS, we don't 
 this problem affecting all other users.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2001 10:39 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Storage Groups vs Mailbox Stores
 
 
 It's best to not let external hierarchies dictate how 
 technological solutions are developed.
 
 What is the point of this exercise? What do you hope to gain? 
 Is there a desired end result towards which you are working? 
 What are the perceived business benefits?
 
 Answer those first.
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 5:26 PM
 Subject: Storage Groups vs Mailbox Stores
 
 
 I want to split up my staff mailboxes into relevant units eg, 
 payroll, managers, etc, on my E2k Enterprise server.  Is it 
 best to create mutiple Mailbox Stores under one Storage 
 Group, OR, just have several Storage Groups with the single 
 Mailbox Store.
 
 Is there any advantage going one way or the other?

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Storage Groups vs Mailbox Stores

2001-11-27 Thread Duane Purcell

I want to split up my staff mailboxes into relevant units eg, payroll,
managers, etc, on my E2k Enterprise server.  Is it best to create
mutiple Mailbox Stores under one Storage Group, OR, just have several
Storage Groups with the single Mailbox Store.

Is there any advantage going one way or the other?

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RE: 2 Information Stores in Exchange 5.5

2001-08-29 Thread Ed Crowley

On two separate servers you can.

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Subject: 2 Information Stores in Exchange 5.5


Quick question for the list:

Is it possible to have 2 separate information stores when running Exchange
5.5 or is this only possible to do in Exchange 2000.

Thanks for your help.

James J. Casstevens
Network Administrator
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RE: 2 information Stores

2001-08-28 Thread Bill Hankins

Only with E2K

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Quick question for the list:

Is it possible to have 2 separate information stores when running
Exchange
5.5 or is this only possible to do in Exchange 2000.

Thanks for your help.

James J. Casstevens
Network Administrator
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2 Information Stores in Exchange 5.5

2001-08-28 Thread James Casstevens

Quick question for the list:

Is it possible to have 2 separate information stores when running Exchange
5.5 or is this only possible to do in Exchange 2000.

Thanks for your help.

James J. Casstevens
Network Administrator
Napa Valley Unified School District
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RE: 2 information Stores

2001-08-28 Thread Martin Blackstone

Not with 5.5 unless you install Exch on two servers then split the users

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Quick question for the list:

Is it possible to have 2 separate information stores when running
Exchange 5.5 or is this only possible to do in Exchange 2000.

Thanks for your help.

James J. Casstevens
Network Administrator
Napa Valley Unified School District
Napa, California  94558
 

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RE: 2 Information Stores in Exchange 5.5

2001-08-28 Thread Erik Sojka

The answer is still E2K only.

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 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 12:47 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: 2 Information Stores in Exchange 5.5
 
 
 Quick question for the list:
 
 Is it possible to have 2 separate information stores when 
 running Exchange
 5.5 or is this only possible to do in Exchange 2000.
 
 Thanks for your help.
 
 James J. Casstevens
 Network Administrator
 Napa Valley Unified School District
 Napa, California  94558
 
 
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Re: 2 information Stores

2001-08-28 Thread Daniel Chenault

Ex5.5 already has two information stores; one for mailboxes, one for public
folders. But that is all it has; you need Ex2K to get more.

- Original Message -
From: James Casstevens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: 2 information Stores


 Quick question for the list:

 Is it possible to have 2 separate information stores when running Exchange
 5.5 or is this only possible to do in Exchange 2000.

 Thanks for your help.

 James J. Casstevens
 Network Administrator
 Napa Valley Unified School District
 Napa, California  94558


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