RE: MaxMessagesPerConnection - Exchange 2007

2009-07-01 Thread Sobey, Richard A
Hi Don,



It is our smart host. We have discussed several workarounds to resolve the 
issue (including installing additional HT servers to minimise the frequency at 
which Exchange sends through 10 messages at once) but ideally we'd like to 
fix Exchange to the 2003 behaviour.



Cheers



Richard



From: bounce-8583005-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
[mailto:bounce-8583005-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Don 
Andrews
Sent: 30 June 2009 17:19
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MaxMessagesPerConnection - Exchange 2007



Can your smart host's configuration be modified?  or is it your ISP's server?



  _

From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 6:26 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: MaxMessagesPerConnection - Exchange 2007



Hi all



Since I have updated our send connectors on Exchange 2007 to use our HT servers 
to route mail to our smart host, it seems to be sending through too many  
messages per connection. The smart host is thus delaying delivery of those 
message by up to 15 minutes as it thinks it's bulk mail (for info, it rejects 
mail after 10 messages in any single connection).



On Exchange 2003, there was a nice setting called Maximum messages per 
connection on the SMTP virtual server tab which now, unfortunately, seems to 
be absent.



Does anyone know



a)  How many messages per connection Exchange 2007 can submit, and if that 
value can be changed;

b)  If not, a creative solution of how to get around this, bar accepting 
the 15 minute delay, or making unwanted changes elsewhere?



Cheers



Richard







Freebusy folder replication

2009-07-01 Thread Peter Johnson
Hi guys

I just wanted a quick opinion . Is it worth replicating the free busy folder to 
the 3 exchange servers public folder stores I have. I assume this would speed 
up the viewing of the information  when people are booking meetings across the 
servers?

Regards
Peter Johnson



Exchange 2003 message tracking

2009-07-01 Thread Ellis, John P.
Is it possible to track messages using the message tracking function
that have been CC'd to someone?
We have a user that says hes not getting emails if hes on the CC line.

Clients are Outlook 2003.

Thanks
John

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RE: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

2009-07-01 Thread Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)
They may be dirt cheap now, but shortly our Dear Leader in the US is going 
to institute about a 90% increase in the cost of gas with his cap and trade 
carbon tax.

Some things just make me glad that I'm out here in the sandbox.

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From: Rob Hagman [mailto:r...@hagman.demon.nl] On Behalf Of 
li...@hagman.demon.nl
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

Don't know why your are complaining about your dirt cheap fuel prices

Average price for Jun 30 source:
http://www.unitedconsumers.com/link.asp?m=tc=waartankenbanner.asp?regio=8c
t=as=0

For the most common types of fuel, converted to $/US Gal. from Euro/ltr

Euro95 Regulair $7.76
Ultimate 98 Super/Premium $8.09
Diesel $5.78
LPG $3.10

Most expensive:
Texaco Super MLV $8.19

Small Diesels and LPG fueled cars are quite popular here in the Netherlands

Rob.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Brian Dwyer [mailto:bdw...@bne.catholic.edu.au]
Verzonden: dinsdag 30 juni 2009 6:55
Aan: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Onderwerp: RE: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

Shessh - paid $AU 1.12 ltr this morning,(cheapest day of the week for petrol in 
Brisbane) there's about 3.8 ltr to the US Gal which is about $AU 4.59  US Gal. 
Taking the current exchange rate $US 1 = $AU 1.23 into consideration means I 
paid the equivalent of about $US 5.64 a gal.  

For good measure the state government is introducing a new 8c ltr state tax 
tomorrow !!!

Diesel is approx 3 - 5c a litre dearer than unleaded !!

Local Ford Fairmont Ghia 6 cyl 4 ltr sedan gets about 11.5L/100k or
2.5Gal/62 miles (26.2 mpg) around town

My math is not real great but I think you get the idea !

Brian

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From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 June 2009 1:50 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

Mini cooper _DIESEL_??

I wish the US would get it's act together for mid-size and small diesel.

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk]
 Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:41 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)
 
 Makes me so proud of my ~60MPG @ 70MPH in my new Mini Cooper Diesel 
 (and ~40MPG @ 105MPH, but I never did that, honestly).
 
 /loves fuel bill.
 
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 From: bounce-8579465-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
 [mailto:bounce- 8579465-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf 
 Of Ben Scott
 Sent: 26 June 2009 16:47
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)
 
 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben Scottmailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
  Amazingly enough, doing 80 MPH in 5th gear yields lower MPG than 
  doing 65 MPH in 5th gear.  :-)
 
 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Micheal Espinola 
 Jrmichealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
  I believe it.  I've def. had cars that had lower MPG at 75+.  I've 
  never seen savings at 55.
 
   Gah, I'm an idiot. I  reversed the intended sense in my statement.
 I was trying to be sarcastic with the Amazingly, and so reinforced 
 the confusion.
 
   MPG is better at 65 MPH than 80 MPH.  How much, I'm not sure, but I 
 know I can use less gas if I drive less aggressively.
 
 I do tend to drive aggressively.  I also haven't had the plugs 
 changed in too long.  And I'm an AC junky.  So I typically get between
 21 and 25 MPG in my 9-year-old Forrester.  On all-highway trips when 
 it was new, 28 to 30 MPG, easily.
 
   80 MPH is pushing the engine a bit, I think.  Not oh my God it's 
 going to explode, but it's starting to whine a little.  I got it up 
 to just over 90 MPH once, then concern for both road safety and the 
 engine won over and I backed off.  The speedometer goes up to 120 MPH 
 but I think that's being optimistic.  90 was already getting close to 
 redline, and the engine sounded like a blender on puree.  This is on 
 the 4-cylinder base engine.  They have an H6 on some models that's 
 considerably beefier, or so I've read.
 
   It's interesting to hear that some cars get lower MPG at higher 
 speeds.  I wouldn't have expected that.
 
 -- Ben
 
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Removing Exchange Server

2009-07-01 Thread Richard Sice
Quick question...I've got an issue where I'm looking to remove an additional 
E2003 Server from our Exchange Admin Group.

I went through MS's KB on doing this but for some reason when trying to finally 
remove the server from AD (via Exchange System Manager) I get the error message 
An invalid ADSI pathname was passed and Error ID c103fc97. MS KBs talk about 
the ability to remove the server thro ADSIedit. However when I look to do this 
the server is not shown in the list of Exchange Servers, even though the server 
name is still shown within Exchange System Manager.

Any ideas on how to remove it from the Admin Group would be very welcome.


RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-07-01 Thread Murray Freeman
Well, my testing over the last 2 days confirms that the problem is
caused by users trying to open Outlook following log on and thus the
workstations are still busy doing housekeeping. If they wait about 5
minutes or so, the Outlook client opens within 10 seconds. Thanks for
all the suggestions. 


Murray






Server Updates

2009-07-01 Thread mqcarp
How you do you prefer to handle server OS updates?

We are debating not using WSUS due to internal policy and reboot
issues but could adjust the server policy to not allow the reboot.
Does anyone allow the server to get updates directly? The issue I have
with that is the administrative rights needed to apply the patches and
or/access them.



Outlook 2k3 Nickname file disappearing

2009-07-01 Thread King's Kid
Hi all,

I know that this isn't strickly an Exchange question.

I have two clients that their nickname files keep disappearing.  Initially I 
thought it was user error since one of the users is not very technical.  But it 
has started happening with another user.  I've checked all the settings on both 
machines and can't see anything out of ordinary.  I've Goggled and also check 
KB article on Microsoft's website and can't seem to find anything specific.

Has anyone had this happen, other than the user deleting the file?
 BJ 


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RE: Server Updates

2009-07-01 Thread Randal, Phil
Just remember that malware doesn't have to ask your boss for permission
and doesn't give a hoot about your internal policies or whether it
should have administrative rights or not.

Too much bureaucracy aids the malware purveyors.

Cheers,

Phil

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From: mqcarp [mailto:mqcarpen...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 01 July 2009 16:08
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Server Updates

How you do you prefer to handle server OS updates?

We are debating not using WSUS due to internal policy and reboot issues
but could adjust the server policy to not allow the reboot.
Does anyone allow the server to get updates directly? The issue I have
with that is the administrative rights needed to apply the patches and
or/access them.





Delays on Outlook synchronization of offline address book

2009-07-01 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Running Exchange 2K3 with Outlook 2K3 client.  Our laptop users are
typically set up to sync their offline folders when Outlook exits.  We
have one user that during this synchronization Outlook seems to take
forever during decompressing offline address book files.  I did some
Googling and found where someone suggested going to Send/Recieve and
downloading the address first without details and then with details.
This seemed to work for one day and then it started happening again.
Another suggestion on the web was to simply turn off synchronization (or
at least turn off full details).  I see that as a band-aid without
actually fixing the problem.  Today I deleted the *.oab files, and
downloaded the OAB which recreated them.  Outlook is now closing down
just fine.  I'm waiting to see what happens tomorrow.  Has anyone else
seen this?  What was your solution?
 
 
If people concentrated on the really important things in life, there'd
be a shortage of fishing poles. - Doug Larson 
 


Paul




RE: Server Updates

2009-07-01 Thread Kennedy, Jim
Not sure how WSUS is the issue here. Set it to download only, then manually 
install and manually reboot. Or download, auto install and disable automatic 
reboot and just do the reboot manually.

Unless I am reading your question wrong that gets you where you want to be?


 -Original Message-
 From: mqcarp [mailto:mqcarpen...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:08 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Server Updates
 
 How you do you prefer to handle server OS updates?
 
 We are debating not using WSUS due to internal policy and reboot
 issues but could adjust the server policy to not allow the reboot.
 Does anyone allow the server to get updates directly? The issue I have
 with that is the administrative rights needed to apply the patches and
 or/access them.





Major goof when migrating OAB to E2K7

2009-07-01 Thread Russ Patterson
Hi  - I think I just made the biggest mistake I've ever done in Exchange.
When I moved OAB generation from E2k3 to E2k7, I pointed to an E2k7 server
that did not have a Public Folder store. Geesh.

I've since created one, and used PFDAVAdmin to set up replication, but I'm
still having lots of issues with the System Folders.

Main issue is no OAB getting created with these two errors:

Log Name:  Application
Source:MSExchangeSA
Date:  7/1/2009 10:14:53 AM
Event ID:  9331
Task Category: OAL Generator
Level: Error
Keywords:  Classic
User:  N/A
Computer:  CLTEXCH0332.ds1.ltcorp.tree
Description:
OALGen encountered error 80070005 (internal ID 50103b4) accessing the public
folder store while generating the offline address list for address list '/'.

- Default Offline Address List


Log Name:  Application
Source:MSExchangeSA
Date:  7/1/2009 10:14:53 AM
Event ID:  9335
Task Category: OAL Generator
Level: Error
Keywords:  Classic
User:  N/A
Computer:  CLTEXCH0332.ds1.ltcorp.tree
Description:
OALGen encountered error 80070005 while cleaning the offline address list
public folders under /o=LendingTree/cn=addrlists/cn=oabs/cn=Default Offline
Address List.  Please make sure the public folder store is mounted and
replicas exist of the offline address list folders.  No offline address
lists have been generated.  Please check the event log for more information.

- Default Offline Address List

I've turned up logging for MSExchangeSA\OAL Generator to medium, those are
the only errors given.

Any suggestions? It's easy to dismount the PF store (which I've done,) but
there are end-users mailboxes on this server, so I could only restart the IS
at night. I also see that the siteFolderServer attribute in ADSIEdit still
points to our E2k3 server.

Help greatly appreciated.


Exchange Cluster

2009-07-01 Thread Paul Cookman

Does anyone know of a good paper/site showing step by step setting up exchange 
2007 in a cluster?



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RE: MaxMessagesPerConnection - Exchange 2007

2009-07-01 Thread Don Andrews
I was just thinking that 10 messages per connection seems a bit low for
a threshold - our smarthost (actually an appliance) has 25 connections
or 500 messages in a 5 minute window as the thresholds for DOS attacks
at which point it implements throttling for an hour - of course, it only
applies this check in inbound connections - internal servers are
presumed to not be the source of poor behavior.

 

Do you have a way to exclude your HT server(s) from this check?

 



From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MaxMessagesPerConnection - Exchange 2007

 

Hi Don,

 

It is our smart host. We have discussed several workarounds to resolve
the issue (including installing additional HT servers to minimise the
frequency at which Exchange sends through 10 messages at once) but
ideally we'd like to fix Exchange to the 2003 behaviour.

 

Cheers

 

Richard

 

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[mailto:bounce-8583005-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of
Don Andrews
Sent: 30 June 2009 17:19
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MaxMessagesPerConnection - Exchange 2007

 

Can your smart host's configuration be modified?  or is it your ISP's
server?

 



From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 6:26 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: MaxMessagesPerConnection - Exchange 2007

 

Hi all

 

Since I have updated our send connectors on Exchange 2007 to use our HT
servers to route mail to our smart host, it seems to be sending through
too many  messages per connection. The smart host is thus delaying
delivery of those message by up to 15 minutes as it thinks it's bulk
mail (for info, it rejects mail after 10 messages in any single
connection).

 

On Exchange 2003, there was a nice setting called Maximum messages per
connection on the SMTP virtual server tab which now, unfortunately,
seems to be absent.

 

Does anyone know

 

a)  How many messages per connection Exchange 2007 can submit, and
if that value can be changed;

b)  If not, a creative solution of how to get around this, bar
accepting the 15 minute delay, or making unwanted changes elsewhere?

 

Cheers

 

Richard

 

 



RE: Exchange 2003 message tracking

2009-07-01 Thread Don Andrews
I would check for a rule - or have the sender request delivery receipts.

-Original Message-
From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2003 message tracking

Is it possible to track messages using the message tracking function
that have been CC'd to someone?
We have a user that says hes not getting emails if hes on the CC line.

Clients are Outlook 2003.

Thanks
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RE: Outlook 2k3 Nickname file disappearing

2009-07-01 Thread Miller Bonnie L .
Are you using roaming profiles?  If so, they might not be loading/unloading 
properly.

From: King's Kid [mailto:kingskid1002...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 8:10 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook 2k3 Nickname file disappearing

Hi all,

I know that this isn't strickly an Exchange question.

I have two clients that their nickname files keep disappearing.  Initially I 
thought it was user error since one of the users is not very technical.  But it 
has started happening with another user.  I've checked all the settings on both 
machines and can't see anything out of ordinary.  I've Goggled and also check 
KB article on Microsoft's website and can't seem to find anything specific.

Has anyone had this happen, other than the user deleting the file?

BJ

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electrons were terribly inconvenienced.



RE: Server Updates

2009-07-01 Thread Jason Gurtz
 How you do you prefer to handle server OS updates?
 
[snip]Lovely Bureaucracy[/snip]

We use WSUS...it's just the best free way.  You could use Config mgr or
shavlik but $ 

Here's how we do it:

There's a scheduled maintenance window after hours (a maintenance window
is a must, keep pushing until you get one); on top of that we manually
call and notify affected personnel so we can wait for the operations to be
done and affect people as little as possible.  Our group policy is set so
nothing in theory[1] auto-reboots as a result of wuauclt.  The policy is
also set to pop-up the reboot needed every 5 minutes to the logged on
user.  We don't have a great number of always mobile users and so get away
with just one policy.  Other places would have to define different
policies to different containers so that laptops, etc... will reboot
themselves.

So, in WSUS we have set up various groups representing not just clients
and servers, but also test versions of those and some other groups for
more critical servers.  Patches are rolled out first to test groups and
trickle down to the others by a schedule.  Using groups makes it easy to
control what machines will download a patch so updates can be tested
before they bring down a production application (that's *very* rare these
days) yet minimize the vulnerability window across the greatest number of
machines as is possible.  We use Mr. Dunn's updatehf.vbs script via psexec
and .cmd files to more finely control when machines download and patch
themselves.  Then psshutdown...

Using this process allow all machines to be updated in about 4 admin-hours
per month with basically no effect on our LOB.  A pain point is with
multi-tier app dependencies where services on one machine depend on
services on another machine; thankfully not too many of those here. :) The
biggest time waster we see is with the actual clients where an update
fails to install and also some lack of full error handling problems in
updatehf which generally requires resetting the whole windows update stack
on that client.

If zero downtime is a requirement, then some type of clustering would be
required if you have to stay on the windows platform.

~JasonG

[1]  In theory, theory is the same as practice; in practice... Keep WELL
in mind: There's a bug in at least XP/2003 where if the logged in console
user logs off via start-log off... the machine will reboot instead of
logging off in some instances when wuauclt is reporting a needed reboot.
Work around is to never log off in that scenario; can't wait for that to
be fixed!




RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-07-01 Thread Jason Gurtz
 Hosting said .pst files on a share makes all of the above about 10x
 worse.

and completely unsupported!

~JasonG



RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-07-01 Thread Steven M. Caesare
I keep telling the management that here...

:(

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:01 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING
 
  Hosting said .pst files on a share makes all of the above about 10x
  worse.
 
 and completely unsupported!
 
 ~JasonG




RE: Exchange Cluster

2009-07-01 Thread Neil Hobson
http://www.msexchange.org/articles_tutorials/exchange-server-2007/high-avail
ability-recovery/deploying-exchange-2007-sp1-ccr-cluster-windows-server-2008
-failover-cluster-part1.html

 

 

From: Paul Cookman [mailto:paul.cook...@selection.co.uk] 
Sent: 01 July 2009 16:43
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange Cluster

 

 


Does anyone know of a good paper/site showing step by step setting up
exchange 2007 in a cluster?

 


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RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-07-01 Thread Jason Gurtz
 Well, my testing over the last 2 days confirms that the problem is
 caused by users trying to open Outlook following log on and thus the
 workstations are still busy doing housekeeping.

It might make the lusers happier if some sleep statements are inserted in
the logon scripting, delaying the non-time critical housekeeping...  I
would go ballistic if it took my PC 5 min to be usable (and I'm one who
understands that things need to be done)!

~JasonG



RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING

2009-07-01 Thread Jason Gurtz
Apparently a worst case scenario is when NTFS compression is enabled on
that server...yikes!

~JasonG

 I keep telling the management that here...
 
 :(
 
 -sc
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:01 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: OUTLOOK 2003 VERY SLOW OPENING
 
   Hosting said .pst files on a share makes all of the above about 10x
   worse.
 
  and completely unsupported!
 
  ~JasonG
 




Re: Outlook 2k3 Nickname file disappearing

2009-07-01 Thread King's Kid
Bonnie,

No, we're not using roaming profiles and I checked to make sure that they 
weren't in cached mode.
 BJ 


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From: Miller Bonnie L. mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 10:57:27 AM
Subject: RE: Outlook 2k3 Nickname file disappearing


Are you using roaming profiles?  If so, they might not be loading/unloading 
properly.
 
From:King's Kid [mailto:kingskid1002...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 8:10 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook 2k3 Nickname file disappearing
 
Hi all,
 
I know that this isn't strickly an Exchange question.
 
I have two clients that their nickname files keep disappearing.  Initially I 
thought it was user error since one of the users is not very technical.  But it 
has started happening with another user.  I've checked all the settings on both 
machines and can't see anything out of ordinary.  I've Goggled and also check 
KB article on Microsoft's website and can't seem to find anything specific.
 
Has anyone had this happen, other than the user deleting the file?
 
BJ 
 
No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of 
electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 


  

RE: Delays on Outlook synchronization of offline address book

2009-07-01 Thread Maglinger, Paul
On a single user?  Possible I guess.  I'd hate to turn it off for a day
to confirm.



From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:38 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Delays on Outlook synchronization of offline address book


I'd be curious if you your AV solution on this desktop is attempting to
access the file while it's downloading and corrupting it. 


On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com
wrote:


Running Exchange 2K3 with Outlook 2K3 client.  Our laptop users
are
typically set up to sync their offline folders when Outlook
exits.  We
have one user that during this synchronization Outlook seems to
take
forever during decompressing offline address book files.  I
did some
Googling and found where someone suggested going to Send/Recieve
and
downloading the address first without details and then with
details.
This seemed to work for one day and then it started happening
again.
Another suggestion on the web was to simply turn off
synchronization (or
at least turn off full details).  I see that as a band-aid
without
actually fixing the problem.  Today I deleted the *.oab files,
and
downloaded the OAB which recreated them.  Outlook is now closing
down
just fine.  I'm waiting to see what happens tomorrow.  Has
anyone else
seen this?  What was your solution?


If people concentrated on the really important things in life,
there'd
be a shortage of fishing poles. - Doug Larson



Paul







RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Andy Shook
Why not just setup a distribution group and handle that way.  A list-serve for 
10 people is overkill, imo...

Shook

From: Derik Peek [mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Listserv on Exchange

Quick Question...
We are trying to set up an internal listserv on our Exchange 2007 server.  It 
will be small (about 10 users) and it will be strictly internal.  Is this 
possible through exchange without using any add-ons? (or any expensive add-ons) 
 And if so can anyone point me in the right direction as I have been searching 
for an answer to this for most of the day.  Thank you




If you have any questions about this please email or call me.  Thank you

Derik R. Peek
IT Technician
SC Telco Federal Credit Union
ph : 864.232.5588, ext 2381
fax: 864.271.6264
dp...@sctelcofcu.orgmailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org



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RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Kretche, Peter
Why not use a Distribution Group?  If you need subscribe functionality you 
could use Active Subscriber http://www.ikakura.com/.

For self service Distribution Group add/drop you'll have to wait for Exchange 
2010.  (Did I let the cat out of the bag on that one?)

-
Thank you,
Pete Kretche
MCP, A+, HP APS
Senior Network/Systems Administrator
E-mail Administrator
UW - Green Bay
Voice: 920.465.5014
Fax: 920.465.2864
kretc...@uwgb.edumailto:kretc...@uwgb.edu

Don't become a phishing victim!!  UW Green Bay and other reputable 
organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your 
password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.

From: Derik Peek [mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Listserv on Exchange

Quick Question...
We are trying to set up an internal listserv on our Exchange 2007 server.  It 
will be small (about 10 users) and it will be strictly internal.  Is this 
possible through exchange without using any add-ons? (or any expensive add-ons) 
 And if so can anyone point me in the right direction as I have been searching 
for an answer to this for most of the day.  Thank you




If you have any questions about this please email or call me.  Thank you

Derik R. Peek
IT Technician
SC Telco Federal Credit Union
ph : 864.232.5588, ext 2381
fax: 864.271.6264
dp...@sctelcofcu.orgmailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org



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RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Actual list-serv functionality? No.

 

Options:

 

-  List-serv lite from L-Soft, Mailman on Unix, etc... (free),
but not exchange integrated

-  Whore-out a public folder and have it forward to a DL to get
the Reply-to re-written (no  member self-service, and the messages have
header info as a result of the forwards

-  Buy Ikakura List Server, (only provides the DL self service
part, still need a way to re-write the reply to addresses)

 

I'm doing the 2nd for about 5 lists I run on my personal Exchange
server... crude but workable and cheap (like me!).

 

-sc

 

From: Derik Peek [mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Listserv on Exchange

 

Quick Question...

We are trying to set up an internal listserv on our Exchange 2007
server.  It will be small (about 10 users) and it will be strictly
internal.  Is this possible through exchange without using any add-ons?
(or any expensive add-ons)  And if so can anyone point me in the right
direction as I have been searching for an answer to this for most of the
day.  Thank you

 

 

 

 

If you have any questions about this please email or call me.  Thank you

 

Derik R. Peek

IT Technician

SC Telco Federal Credit Union

ph : 864.232.5588, ext 2381

fax: 864.271.6264

dp...@sctelcofcu.org mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org 

 

 



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Union cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from
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RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Getting the reply-to to go to the DL is the trick.

 

-sc

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:45 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

 

Why not just setup a distribution group and handle that way.  A
list-serve for 10 people is overkill, imo...

 

Shook

 

From: Derik Peek [mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Listserv on Exchange

 

Quick Question...

We are trying to set up an internal listserv on our Exchange 2007
server.  It will be small (about 10 users) and it will be strictly
internal.  Is this possible through exchange without using any add-ons?
(or any expensive add-ons)  And if so can anyone point me in the right
direction as I have been searching for an answer to this for most of the
day.  Thank you

 

 

 

 

If you have any questions about this please email or call me.  Thank you

 

Derik R. Peek

IT Technician

SC Telco Federal Credit Union

ph : 864.232.5588, ext 2381

fax: 864.271.6264

dp...@sctelcofcu.org mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org 

 

 



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RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Steven M. Caesare
[rant]

 

They really mis-represent that product. I DL'ed a demo and went thru all
the installation only to find out that  _THE_ significant feature of a
list-server: rewriting the reply-to address such that the replies come
back to the LIST and not THE SENDER is not part of the product.

 

It's a DL member self-service product, not a list server.

 

[/rant]

 

-sc

 

From: Kretche, Peter [mailto:kretc...@uwgb.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

 

Why not use a Distribution Group?  If you need subscribe functionality
you could use Active Subscriber http://www.ikakura.com/.

 

For self service Distribution Group add/drop you'll have to wait for
Exchange 2010.  (Did I let the cat out of the bag on that one?)

 

-
Thank you,
Pete Kretche
MCP, A+, HP APS
Senior Network/Systems Administrator

E-mail Administrator
UW - Green Bay
Voice: 920.465.5014
Fax: 920.465.2864
kretc...@uwgb.edu

 

Don't become a phishing victim!!  UW Green Bay and other reputable
organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your
password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.

 

From: Derik Peek [mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Listserv on Exchange

 

Quick Question...

We are trying to set up an internal listserv on our Exchange 2007
server.  It will be small (about 10 users) and it will be strictly
internal.  Is this possible through exchange without using any add-ons?
(or any expensive add-ons)  And if so can anyone point me in the right
direction as I have been searching for an answer to this for most of the
day.  Thank you

 

 

 

 

If you have any questions about this please email or call me.  Thank you

 

Derik R. Peek

IT Technician

SC Telco Federal Credit Union

ph : 864.232.5588, ext 2381

fax: 864.271.6264

dp...@sctelcofcu.org mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org 

 

 



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Union cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from
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RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Derik Peek
My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask the people 
in the group to hit reply to all and wanted it set up this way.


I found ikakura online but the cheapest product I found was $750 and it said it 
only supported up to Exchange 2003

Derik

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:45 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

Why not just setup a distribution group and handle that way.  A list-serve for 
10 people is overkill, imo...

Shook

From: Derik Peek [mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Listserv on Exchange

Quick Question...
We are trying to set up an internal listserv on our Exchange 2007 server.  It 
will be small (about 10 users) and it will be strictly internal.  Is this 
possible through exchange without using any add-ons? (or any expensive add-ons) 
 And if so can anyone point me in the right direction as I have been searching 
for an answer to this for most of the day.  Thank you




If you have any questions about this please email or call me.  Thank you

Derik R. Peek
IT Technician
SC Telco Federal Credit Union
ph : 864.232.5588, ext 2381
fax: 864.271.6264
dp...@sctelcofcu.orgmailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org



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the Credit Union has taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are 
present in this email, the Credit Union cannot accept responsibility for any 
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your cooperation.


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RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Exchange (Sunbelt)
GFI Mail Security incorporates a free listserv and it keeps working when the 
demo of ME runs out

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

Actual list-serv functionality? No.

Options:


-  List-serv lite from L-Soft, Mailman on Unix, etc... (free), but not 
exchange integrated

-  Whore-out a public folder and have it forward to a DL to get the 
Reply-to re-written (no  member self-service, and the messages have header 
info as a result of the forwards

-  Buy Ikakura List Server, (only provides the DL self service part, 
still need a way to re-write the reply to addresses)

I'm doing the 2nd for about 5 lists I run on my personal Exchange server... 
crude but workable and cheap (like me!).

-sc

From: Derik Peek [mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Listserv on Exchange

Quick Question...
We are trying to set up an internal listserv on our Exchange 2007 server.  It 
will be small (about 10 users) and it will be strictly internal.  Is this 
possible through exchange without using any add-ons? (or any expensive add-ons) 
 And if so can anyone point me in the right direction as I have been searching 
for an answer to this for most of the day.  Thank you




If you have any questions about this please email or call me.  Thank you

Derik R. Peek
IT Technician
SC Telco Federal Credit Union
ph : 864.232.5588, ext 2381
fax: 864.271.6264
dp...@sctelcofcu.orgmailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org



This email and any files transmitted with it are property of SC Telco Federal 
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present in this email, the Credit Union cannot accept responsibility for any 
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RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Oh that's right they do:

 

The newest demo (v14) will stop accepting/delivering mail via SMTP when
the demo runs out (although MAPI seems to continue to work). Also, it
seems to strip attachments. Their support line is almost completely
nonresponsive and for them the mail-list functionality seems like an
afterthought.

 

-sc

From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange
(Sunbelt)
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:04 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

 

GFI Mail Security incorporates a free listserv and it keeps working when
the demo of ME runs out

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

 

Actual list-serv functionality? No.

 

Options:

 

-  List-serv lite from L-Soft, Mailman on Unix, etc... (free),
but not exchange integrated

-  Whore-out a public folder and have it forward to a DL to get
the Reply-to re-written (no  member self-service, and the messages have
header info as a result of the forwards

-  Buy Ikakura List Server, (only provides the DL self service
part, still need a way to re-write the reply to addresses)

 

I'm doing the 2nd for about 5 lists I run on my personal Exchange
server... crude but workable and cheap (like me!).

 

-sc

 

From: Derik Peek [mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Listserv on Exchange

 

Quick Question...

We are trying to set up an internal listserv on our Exchange 2007
server.  It will be small (about 10 users) and it will be strictly
internal.  Is this possible through exchange without using any add-ons?
(or any expensive add-ons)  And if so can anyone point me in the right
direction as I have been searching for an answer to this for most of the
day.  Thank you

 

 

 

 

If you have any questions about this please email or call me.  Thank you

 

Derik R. Peek

IT Technician

SC Telco Federal Credit Union

ph : 864.232.5588, ext 2381

fax: 864.271.6264

dp...@sctelcofcu.org mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org 

 

 



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Federal Credit Union, are confidential, and are intended solely for the
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RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Exchange (Sunbelt)
The mail list is a freebie, which is why the support for it in non existent...

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

Oh that's right they do:

The newest demo (v14) will stop accepting/delivering mail via SMTP when the 
demo runs out (although MAPI seems to continue to work). Also, it seems to 
strip attachments. Their support line is almost completely nonresponsive and 
for them the mail-list functionality seems like an afterthought.

-sc
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt)
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:04 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

GFI Mail Security incorporates a free listserv and it keeps working when the 
demo of ME runs out

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

Actual list-serv functionality? No.

Options:


-  List-serv lite from L-Soft, Mailman on Unix, etc... (free), but not 
exchange integrated

-  Whore-out a public folder and have it forward to a DL to get the 
Reply-to re-written (no  member self-service, and the messages have header 
info as a result of the forwards

-  Buy Ikakura List Server, (only provides the DL self service part, 
still need a way to re-write the reply to addresses)

I'm doing the 2nd for about 5 lists I run on my personal Exchange server... 
crude but workable and cheap (like me!).

-sc

From: Derik Peek [mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Listserv on Exchange

Quick Question...
We are trying to set up an internal listserv on our Exchange 2007 server.  It 
will be small (about 10 users) and it will be strictly internal.  Is this 
possible through exchange without using any add-ons? (or any expensive add-ons) 
 And if so can anyone point me in the right direction as I have been searching 
for an answer to this for most of the day.  Thank you




If you have any questions about this please email or call me.  Thank you

Derik R. Peek
IT Technician
SC Telco Federal Credit Union
ph : 864.232.5588, ext 2381
fax: 864.271.6264
dp...@sctelcofcu.orgmailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org



This email and any files transmitted with it are property of SC Telco Federal 
Credit Union, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the 
individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not one of 
the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason to believe that you have 
received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this 
message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention, 
dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly 
prohibited. Warning: Computer viruses can be transmitted via email. Although 
the Credit Union has taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are 
present in this email, the Credit Union cannot accept responsibility for any 
loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. Thank you for 
your cooperation.


RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Steven M. Caesare
It is?

 

It's part of the MailEssentials suite which is for-purchase only AFAIK.

 

-sc

 

From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange
(Sunbelt)
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

 

The mail list is a freebie, which is why the support for it in non
existent...

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

 

Oh that's right they do:

 

The newest demo (v14) will stop accepting/delivering mail via SMTP when
the demo runs out (although MAPI seems to continue to work). Also, it
seems to strip attachments. Their support line is almost completely
nonresponsive and for them the mail-list functionality seems like an
afterthought.

 

-sc

From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange
(Sunbelt)
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:04 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

 

GFI Mail Security incorporates a free listserv and it keeps working when
the demo of ME runs out

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

 

Actual list-serv functionality? No.

 

Options:

 

-  List-serv lite from L-Soft, Mailman on Unix, etc... (free),
but not exchange integrated

-  Whore-out a public folder and have it forward to a DL to get
the Reply-to re-written (no  member self-service, and the messages have
header info as a result of the forwards

-  Buy Ikakura List Server, (only provides the DL self service
part, still need a way to re-write the reply to addresses)

 

I'm doing the 2nd for about 5 lists I run on my personal Exchange
server... crude but workable and cheap (like me!).

 

-sc

 

From: Derik Peek [mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Listserv on Exchange

 

Quick Question...

We are trying to set up an internal listserv on our Exchange 2007
server.  It will be small (about 10 users) and it will be strictly
internal.  Is this possible through exchange without using any add-ons?
(or any expensive add-ons)  And if so can anyone point me in the right
direction as I have been searching for an answer to this for most of the
day.  Thank you

 

 

 

 

If you have any questions about this please email or call me.  Thank you

 

Derik R. Peek

IT Technician

SC Telco Federal Credit Union

ph : 864.232.5588, ext 2381

fax: 864.271.6264

dp...@sctelcofcu.org mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org 

 

 



This email and any files transmitted with it are property of SC Telco
Federal Credit Union, are confidential, and are intended solely for the
use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you
are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason to
believe that you have received this message in error, please notify the
sender and delete this message immediately from your computer. Any other
use, retention, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this
email is strictly prohibited. Warning: Computer viruses can be
transmitted via email. Although the Credit Union has taken reasonable
precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this email, the Credit
Union cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from
the use of this email or attachments. Thank you for your cooperation.



RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Jason Gurtz
 My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask the
 people in the group to hit “reply to all” and wanted it set up this way.

This makes me wonder how hard it would be (if all you wanted was reply-to:
munging and no other functionality) to write an event sink that would do 
this?  That should be workable with either dist. groups or mail enabled 
public folder.

Pseudo code:

if(msgObj.sentTo == myList) {
msgObj.replyTo = myList;
}

~JasonG



RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Kretche, Peter
If munging is the goal, create a mail-enabled Public Folder with the email 
address desired.  Then have it forward email to the distribution list.  All 
replies will go to the Public Folder which in turn will go back to the list.  I 
did this with Ikakura to achieve listserv functionality.  Initially I just 
wanted auto-DL type management that Ikakura provided.

-
Thank you,
Pete Kretche
MCP, A+, HP APS
Senior Network/Systems Administrator
E-mail Administrator
UW - Green Bay
Voice: 920.465.5014
Fax: 920.465.2864
kretc...@uwgb.edu

Don't become a phishing victim!!  UW Green Bay and other reputable 
organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your 
password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.


-Original Message-
From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

 My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask the
 people in the group to hit “reply to all” and wanted it set up this way.

This makes me wonder how hard it would be (if all you wanted was reply-to:
munging and no other functionality) to write an event sink that would do 
this?  That should be workable with either dist. groups or mail enabled 
public folder.

Pseudo code:

if(msgObj.sentTo == myList) {
msgObj.replyTo = myList;
}

~JasonG




RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Exchange (Sunbelt)
GFI Mail Security incorporates a free listserv and it keeps working when the 
demo of ME runs out

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

It is?

It's part of the MailEssentials suite which is for-purchase only AFAIK.

-sc

From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt)
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

The mail list is a freebie, which is why the support for it in non existent...

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

Oh that's right they do:

The newest demo (v14) will stop accepting/delivering mail via SMTP when the 
demo runs out (although MAPI seems to continue to work). Also, it seems to 
strip attachments. Their support line is almost completely nonresponsive and 
for them the mail-list functionality seems like an afterthought.

-sc
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt)
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:04 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

GFI Mail Security incorporates a free listserv and it keeps working when the 
demo of ME runs out

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

Actual list-serv functionality? No.

Options:


-  List-serv lite from L-Soft, Mailman on Unix, etc... (free), but not 
exchange integrated

-  Whore-out a public folder and have it forward to a DL to get the 
Reply-to re-written (no  member self-service, and the messages have header 
info as a result of the forwards

-  Buy Ikakura List Server, (only provides the DL self service part, 
still need a way to re-write the reply to addresses)

I'm doing the 2nd for about 5 lists I run on my personal Exchange server... 
crude but workable and cheap (like me!).

-sc

From: Derik Peek [mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Listserv on Exchange

Quick Question...
We are trying to set up an internal listserv on our Exchange 2007 server.  It 
will be small (about 10 users) and it will be strictly internal.  Is this 
possible through exchange without using any add-ons? (or any expensive add-ons) 
 And if so can anyone point me in the right direction as I have been searching 
for an answer to this for most of the day.  Thank you




If you have any questions about this please email or call me.  Thank you

Derik R. Peek
IT Technician
SC Telco Federal Credit Union
ph : 864.232.5588, ext 2381
fax: 864.271.6264
dp...@sctelcofcu.orgmailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org



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Re: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Harry Singh
Is then the forwarding from the PF to the DL done with outlook rules ?



On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Kretche, Peter kretc...@uwgb.edu wrote:

 If munging is the goal, create a mail-enabled Public Folder with the email
 address desired.  Then have it forward email to the distribution list.  All
 replies will go to the Public Folder which in turn will go back to the list.
  I did this with Ikakura to achieve listserv functionality.  Initially I
 just wanted auto-DL type management that Ikakura provided.

 -
 Thank you,
 Pete Kretche
 MCP, A+-, HP APS
 Senior Network/Systems Administrator
 E-mail Administrator
 UW - Green Bay
 Voice: 920.465.5014
 Fax: 920.465.2864
 kretchep+AEA-uwgb.edu

 Don't become a phishing victim+ACEAIQ-  UW Green Bay and other reputable
 organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your
 password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.


 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Gurtz 
 +AFs-mailto:jasongurtz+AEA-npumail.com+AF0-jasongurtz%2BAEA-npumail.com%2BAF0-
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:22 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

 +AD4- My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask
 the
 +AD4- people in the group to hit +IBw-reply to all+IB0- and wanted it set
 up this way.

 This makes me wonder how hard it would be (if all you wanted was reply-to:
 munging and no other functionality) to write an event sink that would do
 this?  That should be workable with either dist. groups or mail enabled
 public folder.

 Pseudo code:

 if(msgObj.sentTo +AD0APQ- myList) +AHs-
msgObj.replyTo +AD0- myList+ADs-
 +AH0-

 +AH4-JasonG





RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Steven M. Caesare
It's what I do too... now if only the public folder assistant wouldn’t insert 
the Forwarded from... header garbage in the body of the message.

I asked the list about customizing this form/behavior a while back to no 
avail...

:(

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: Kretche, Peter [mailto:kretc...@uwgb.edu]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:27 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange
 
 If munging is the goal, create a mail-enabled Public Folder with the
 email address desired.  Then have it forward email to the distribution
 list.  All replies will go to the Public Folder which in turn will go
 back to the list.  I did this with Ikakura to achieve listserv
 functionality.  Initially I just wanted auto-DL type management that
 Ikakura provided.
 
 -
 Thank you,
 Pete Kretche
 MCP, A+, HP APS
 Senior Network/Systems Administrator
 E-mail Administrator
 UW - Green Bay
 Voice: 920.465.5014
 Fax: 920.465.2864
 kretc...@uwgb.edu
 
 Don't become a phishing victim!!  UW Green Bay and other reputable
 organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your
 password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:22 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange
 
  My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask
 the
  people in the group to hit “reply to all” and wanted it set up this
 way.
 
 This makes me wonder how hard it would be (if all you wanted was reply-
 to:
 munging and no other functionality) to write an event sink that would
 do
 this?  That should be workable with either dist. groups or mail enabled
 public folder.
 
 Pseudo code:
 
 if(msgObj.sentTo == myList) {
 msgObj.replyTo = myList;
 }
 
 ~JasonG
 




RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Kretche, Peter
Go into the properties of the Public Folder, Administration tab.  There Folder 
Assistant rules could be set up.  These will fire at the server, Outlook does 
not need to be open for them to work.

Another reason why SharePoint does not fill the Public Folder void.  IMO.

-
Thank you,
Pete Kretche
MCP, A+, HP APS
Senior Network/Systems Administrator
E-mail Administrator
UW - Green Bay
Voice: 920.465.5014
Fax: 920.465.2864
kretc...@uwgb.edumailto:kretc...@uwgb.edu

Don't become a phishing victim!!  UW Green Bay and other reputable 
organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your 
password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.

From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Listserv on Exchange

Is then the forwarding from the PF to the DL done with outlook rules ?


On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Kretche, Peter 
kretc...@uwgb.edumailto:kretc...@uwgb.edu wrote:
If munging is the goal, create a mail-enabled Public Folder with the email 
address desired.  Then have it forward email to the distribution list.  All 
replies will go to the Public Folder which in turn will go back to the list.  I 
did this with Ikakura to achieve listserv functionality.  Initially I just 
wanted auto-DL type management that Ikakura provided.

-
Thank you,
Pete Kretche
MCP, A+-, HP APS
Senior Network/Systems Administrator
E-mail Administrator
UW - Green Bay
Voice: 920.465.5014
Fax: 920.465.2864
kretchep+AEA-uwgb.edu

Don't become a phishing victim+ACEAIQ-  UW Green Bay and other reputable 
organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your 
password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.


-Original Message-
From: Jason Gurtz 
+AFs-mailto:jasongurtz+AEA-npumail.com+AF0-mailto:jasongurtz%2BAEA-npumail.com%2BAF0-
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange
+AD4- My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask the
+AD4- people in the group to hit +IBw-reply to all+IB0- and wanted it set up 
this way.

This makes me wonder how hard it would be (if all you wanted was reply-to:
munging and no other functionality) to write an event sink that would do
this?  That should be workable with either dist. groups or mail enabled
public folder.

Pseudo code:

if(msgObj.sentTo +AD0APQ- myList) +AHs-
   msgObj.replyTo +AD0- myList+ADs-
+AH0-

+AH4-JasonG





RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Public Folder assistant button in the propertied for the PF.

 

-sc

 

From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Listserv on Exchange

 

Is then the forwarding from the PF to the DL done with outlook rules ?




On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Kretche, Peter kretc...@uwgb.edu wrote:

If munging is the goal, create a mail-enabled Public Folder with the email 
address desired.  Then have it forward email to the distribution list.  All 
replies will go to the Public Folder which in turn will go back to the list.  I 
did this with Ikakura to achieve listserv functionality.  Initially I just 
wanted auto-DL type management that Ikakura provided.


-
Thank you,
Pete Kretche
MCP, A+-, HP APS
Senior Network/Systems Administrator
E-mail Administrator
UW - Green Bay
Voice: 920.465.5014
Fax: 920.465.2864

kretchep+AEA-uwgb.edu

Don't become a phishing victim+ACEAIQ-  UW Green Bay and other reputable 
organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your 
password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.



-Original Message-
From: Jason Gurtz +AFs-mailto:jasongurtz+AEA-npumail.com+AF0- 
mailto:jasongurtz%2BAEA-npumail.com%2BAF0- 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

+AD4- My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask the
+AD4- people in the group to hit +IBw-reply to all+IB0- and wanted it set up 
this way.

This makes me wonder how hard it would be (if all you wanted was reply-to:
munging and no other functionality) to write an event sink that would do
this?  That should be workable with either dist. groups or mail enabled
public folder.

Pseudo code:

if(msgObj.sentTo +AD0APQ- myList) +AHs-
   msgObj.replyTo +AD0- myList+ADs-
+AH0-

+AH4-JasonG



 




Re: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Harry Singh
Ahh, i see. I never had a request like this come through me before, but it
sounds like it will.

I thought that PF's were all but dead in exchange 2007 ? I can imagine in
2010 they would be completely done.



On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Kretche, Peter kretc...@uwgb.edu wrote:

  Go into the properties of the Public Folder, Administration taÿÿÂ  There
 Folder Assistant rules could be set uÿÿÂ  These will fire at the server,
 Outlook does not need to be open for them to work.



 Another reason why SharePoint does not fill the Public Folder voidÿÿÂ IMO.



 -
 Thank you,
 Pete Kretche
 MCP, A+, HP APS
 Senior Network/Systems Administrator

 E-mail Administrator
 UW - Green Bay
 Voice: 920.465.5014
 Fax: 920.465.2864
 kretc...@uwgb.edu



 Don't become a phishing victimÿÿÂ  UW Green Bay and other reputable
 organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your
 password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.



 *From:* Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:32 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Listserv on Exchange



 Is then the forwarding from the PF to the DL done with outlook rules ?


  On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Kretche, Peter kretc...@uwgb.edu wrote:

 If munging is the goal, create a mail-enabled Public Folder with the email
 address desired.  Then have it forward email to the distribution list.  All
 replies will go to the Public Folder which in turn will go back to the list.
  I did this with Ikakura to achieve listserv functionality.  Initially I
 just wanted auto-DL type management that Ikakura provided.


 -
 Thank you,
 Pete Kretche
 MCP, A+-, HP APS
 Senior Network/Systems Administrator
 E-mail Administrator
 UW - Green Bay
 Voice: 920.465.5014
 Fax: 920.465.2864

 kretchep+AEA-uwgb.edu

 Don't become a phishing victim+ACEAIQ-  UW Green Bay and other reputable
 organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your
 password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.



 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Gurtz 
 +AFs-mailto:jasongurtz+AEA-npumail.com+AF0-jasongurtz%2BAEA-npumail.com%2BAF0-
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:22 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

 +AD4- My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask
 the
 +AD4- people in the group to hit +IBw-reply to all+IB0- and wanted it set
 up this way.

 This makes me wonder how hard it would be (if all you wanted was reply-to:
 munging and no other functionality) to write an event sink that would do
 this?  That should be workable with either dist. groups or mail enabled
 public folder.

 Pseudo code:

 if(msgObj.sentTo +AD0APQ- myList) +AHs-
msgObj.replyTo +AD0- myList+ADs-
 +AH0-

 +AH4-JasonG





Re: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread PRamatowski
Yeah, I played with it for a while with no luck...  Sorry I misunderstood your 
original question, I got it backwards;(

Blackberry

- Original Message -
From: Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Wed Jul 01 14:35:54 2009
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

It's what I do too... now if only the public folder assistant wouldn���t insert 
the Forwarded from... header garbage in the body of the message.

I asked the list about customizing this form/behavior a while back to no 
avail...

:(

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: Kretche, Peter [mailto:kretc...@uwgb.edu]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:27 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange
 
 If munging is the goal, create a mail-enabled Public Folder with the
 email address desired.  Then have it forward email to the distribution
 list.  All replies will go to the Public Folder which in turn will go
 back to the list.  I did this with Ikakura to achieve listserv
 functionality.  Initially I just wanted auto-DL type management that
 Ikakura provided.
 
 -
 Thank you,
 Pete Kretche
 MCP, A+, HP APS
 Senior Network/Systems Administrator
 E-mail Administrator
 UW - Green Bay
 Voice: 920.465.5014
 Fax: 920.465.2864
 kretc...@uwgb.edu
 
 Don't become a phishing victim!!  UW Green Bay and other reputable
 organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your
 password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:22 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange
 
  My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask
 the
  people in the group to hit ���reply to all��� and wanted it set up this
 way.
 
 This makes me wonder how hard it would be (if all you wanted was reply-
 to:
 munging and no other functionality) to write an event sink that would
 do
 this?  That should be workable with either dist. groups or mail enabled
 public folder.
 
 Pseudo code:
 
 if(msgObj.sentTo == myList) {
 msgObj.replyTo = myList;
 }
 
 ~JasonG
 





RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Steven M. Caesare
ve wondered that too, but know nothing about writing them. ve googled 
for a ���header munge��� event sink doo-dad to no avai.

 

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:22 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

  My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask
 the
  people in the group to hit reply to all and wanted it set up this
 way.

 This makes me wonder how hard it would be (if all you wanted was reply-
 to:
 munging and no other functionality) to write an event sink that would
 do
 this?  That should be workable with either dist. groups or mail enabled
 public folder.

 Pseudo code:

 if(msgObj.sentTo == myList) {
 msgObj.replyTo = myList;
 }

 ~JasonG







RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Well that was o� what I had attempted to respond with (and is even present 
in my Sent Items folder) was:

 

���ve wondered that too, but know nothing about writing them. ve 
googled for a ���header munge��� event sink doo-dad to no avai

 

-sc

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

 

 

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:22 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

  My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask
 the
  people in the group to hit reply to all and wanted it set up this
 way.

 This makes me wonder how hard it would be (if all you wanted was reply-
 to:
 munging and no other functionality) to write an event sink that would
 do
 this?  That should be workable with either dist. groups or mail enabled
 public folder.

 Pseudo code:

 if(msgObj.sentTo == myList) {
 msgObj.replyTo = myList;
 }

 ~JasonG





Happy Canada Day

2009-07-01 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
Happy Canada Day to all you Canucks on the lists.  Although I hope you're
not having to work today!!

-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke


RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Kretche, Peter
To get rid of the Forwarded From: garbage set the Method in the rule to 
Leave Message Intact

-
Thank you,
Pete Kretche
MCP, A+, HP APS
Senior Network/Systems Administrator
E-mail Administrator
UW - Green Bay
Voice: 920.465.5014
Fax: 920.465.2864
kretc...@uwgb.edu

Don't become a phishing victim!!  UW Green Bay and other reputable 
organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your 
password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.


-Original Message-
From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

It's what I do too... now if only the public folder assistant wouldn’t insert 
the Forwarded from... header garbage in the body of the message.

I asked the list about customizing this form/behavior a while back to no 
avail...

:(

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: Kretche, Peter [mailto:kretc...@uwgb.edu]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:27 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange
 
 If munging is the goal, create a mail-enabled Public Folder with the
 email address desired.  Then have it forward email to the distribution
 list.  All replies will go to the Public Folder which in turn will go
 back to the list.  I did this with Ikakura to achieve listserv
 functionality.  Initially I just wanted auto-DL type management that
 Ikakura provided.
 
 -
 Thank you,
 Pete Kretche
 MCP, A+, HP APS
 Senior Network/Systems Administrator
 E-mail Administrator
 UW - Green Bay
 Voice: 920.465.5014
 Fax: 920.465.2864
 kretc...@uwgb.edu
 
 Don't become a phishing victim!!  UW Green Bay and other reputable
 organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your
 password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:22 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange
 
  My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask
 the
  people in the group to hit “reply to all” and wanted it set up this
 way.
 
 This makes me wonder how hard it would be (if all you wanted was reply-
 to:
 munging and no other functionality) to write an event sink that would
 do
 this?  That should be workable with either dist. groups or mail enabled
 public folder.
 
 Pseudo code:
 
 if(msgObj.sentTo == myList) {
 msgObj.replyTo = myList;
 }
 
 ~JasonG
 





Re: Happy Canada Day

2009-07-01 Thread Steve Ens
Thanks!  Not working, but relaxing...

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.comwrote:

 Happy Canada Day to all you Canucks on the lists.  Although I hope you're
 not having to work today!!

 --
 Sherry Abercrombie

 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
 Arthur C. Clarke



RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Then it screws up the reply-to.

-sc


 -Original Message-
 From: Kretche, Peter [mailto:kretc...@uwgb.edu]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:00 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange
 
 To get rid of the Forwarded From: garbage set the Method in the rule
 to Leave Message Intact
 
 -
 Thank you,
 Pete Kretche
 MCP, A+, HP APS
 Senior Network/Systems Administrator
 E-mail Administrator
 UW - Green Bay
 Voice: 920.465.5014
 Fax: 920.465.2864
 kretc...@uwgb.edu
 
 Don't become a phishing victim!!  UW Green Bay and other reputable
 organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your
 password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:36 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange
 
 It's what I do too... now if only the public folder assistant wouldn’t
 insert the Forwarded from... header garbage in the body of the
 message.
 
 I asked the list about customizing this form/behavior a while back to
 no avail...
 
 :(
 
 -sc
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kretche, Peter [mailto:kretc...@uwgb.edu]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:27 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange
 
  If munging is the goal, create a mail-enabled Public Folder with the
  email address desired.  Then have it forward email to the
 distribution
  list.  All replies will go to the Public Folder which in turn will go
  back to the list.  I did this with Ikakura to achieve listserv
  functionality.  Initially I just wanted auto-DL type management that
  Ikakura provided.
 
  -
  Thank you,
  Pete Kretche
  MCP, A+, HP APS
  Senior Network/Systems Administrator
  E-mail Administrator
  UW - Green Bay
  Voice: 920.465.5014
  Fax: 920.465.2864
  kretc...@uwgb.edu
 
  Don't become a phishing victim!!  UW Green Bay and other reputable
  organizations will never use email to request that you reply with
 your
  password, Social Security number or confidential personal
 information.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:22 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange
 
   My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask
  the
   people in the group to hit “reply to all” and wanted it set up this
  way.
 
  This makes me wonder how hard it would be (if all you wanted was
 reply-
  to:
  munging and no other functionality) to write an event sink that would
  do
  this?  That should be workable with either dist. groups or mail
 enabled
  public folder.
 
  Pseudo code:
 
  if(msgObj.sentTo == myList) {
  msgObj.replyTo = myList;
  }
 
  ~JasonG
 
 
 




RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Don Andrews
I think reports of their death were somewhat premature.

 



From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:43 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Listserv on Exchange

 

Ahh, i see. I never had a request like this come through me before, but it 
sounds like it will.

I thought that PF's were all but dead in exchange 2007 ? I can imagine in 2010 
they would be completely done.




On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Kretche, Peter kretc...@uwgb.edu wrote:

Go into the properties of the Public Folder, Administration taÿÿÂ  There Folder 
Assistant rules could be set uÿÿÂ  These will fire at the server, Outlook does 
not need to be open for them to work.

 

Another reason why SharePoint does not fill the Public Folder voidÿÿÂ IMO.

 

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From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Listserv on Exchange

 

Is then the forwarding from the PF to the DL done with outlook rules ?



On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Kretche, Peter kretc...@uwgb.edu wrote:

If munging is the goal, create a mail-enabled Public Folder with the email 
address desired.  Then have it forward email to the distribution list.  All 
replies will go to the Public Folder which in turn will go back to the list.  I 
did this with Ikakura to achieve listserv functionality.  Initially I just 
wanted auto-DL type management that Ikakura provided.


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Thank you,
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Senior Network/Systems Administrator
E-mail Administrator
UW - Green Bay
Voice: 920.465.5014
Fax: 920.465.2864

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-Original Message-
From: Jason Gurtz +AFs-mailto:jasongurtz+AEA-npumail.com+AF0- 
mailto:jasongurtz%2BAEA-npumail.com%2BAF0- 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

+AD4- My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask the
+AD4- people in the group to hit +IBw-reply to all+IB0- and wanted it set up 
this way.

This makes me wonder how hard it would be (if all you wanted was reply-to:
munging and no other functionality) to write an event sink that would do
this?  That should be workable with either dist. groups or mail enabled
public folder.

Pseudo code:

if(msgObj.sentTo +AD0APQ- myList) +AHs-
   msgObj.replyTo +AD0- myList+ADs-
+AH0-

+AH4-JasonG

 

 



RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Kretche, Peter
Public Folders are alive and well in Exchange 2010.  I was just editorializing 
on how MS has been more-or-less trying to kill them off.

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Thank you,
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Senior Network/Systems Administrator
E-mail Administrator
UW - Green Bay
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Fax: 920.465.2864
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From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

I think reports of their death were somewhat premature.


From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:43 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Listserv on Exchange

Ahh, i see. I never had a request like this come through me before, but it 
sounds like it will.

I thought that PF's were all but dead in exchange 2007 ? I can imagine in 2010 
they would be completely done.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Kretche, Peter 
kretc...@uwgb.edumailto:kretc...@uwgb.edu wrote:

Go into the properties of the Public Folder, Administration taÿÿÂ  There Folder 
Assistant rules could be set uÿÿÂ  These will fire at the server, Outlook does 
not need to be open for them to work.



Another reason why SharePoint does not fill the Public Folder voidÿÿÂ IMO.



-
Thank you,
Pete Kretche
MCP, A+, HP APS
Senior Network/Systems Administrator
E-mail Administrator
UW - Green Bay
Voice: 920.465.5014
Fax: 920.465.2864
kretc...@uwgb.edumailto:kretc...@uwgb.edu



Don't become a phishing victimÿÿÂ  UW Green Bay and other reputable 
organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your 
password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.



From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.commailto:hbo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Listserv on Exchange



Is then the forwarding from the PF to the DL done with outlook rules ?

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Kretche, Peter 
kretc...@uwgb.edumailto:kretc...@uwgb.edu wrote:

If munging is the goal, create a mail-enabled Public Folder with the email 
address desired.  Then have it forward email to the distribution list.  All 
replies will go to the Public Folder which in turn will go back to the list.  I 
did this with Ikakura to achieve listserv functionality.  Initially I just 
wanted auto-DL type management that Ikakura provided.

-
Thank you,
Pete Kretche
MCP, A+-, HP APS
Senior Network/Systems Administrator
E-mail Administrator
UW - Green Bay
Voice: 920.465.5014
Fax: 920.465.2864

kretchep+AEA-uwgb.edu

Don't become a phishing victim+ACEAIQ-  UW Green Bay and other reputable 
organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your 
password, Social Security number or confidential personal information.


-Original Message-
From: Jason Gurtz 
+AFs-mailto:jasongurtz+AEA-npumail.com+AF0-mailto:jasongurtz%2BAEA-npumail.com%2BAF0-
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Listserv on Exchange

+AD4- My same thought but higher ups thought it would be too much to ask the
+AD4- people in the group to hit +IBw-reply to all+IB0- and wanted it set up 
this way.

This makes me wonder how hard it would be (if all you wanted was reply-to:
munging and no other functionality) to write an event sink that would do
this?  That should be workable with either dist. groups or mail enabled
public folder.

Pseudo code:

if(msgObj.sentTo +AD0APQ- myList) +AHs-
   msgObj.replyTo +AD0- myList+ADs-
+AH0-

+AH4-JasonG





Re: Removing Exchange Server

2009-07-01 Thread Alex Fontana
If its not showing up via ADSI then I gotta ask...did you refresh ESM or
restart it?  Did you uninstall Exchange 2003 from the box using add/remove,
and was that successful?

-alex

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 3:41 AM, Richard Sice rs...@g-h.co.uk wrote:

 Quick question...I've got an issue where I'm looking to remove an
 additional E2003 Server from our Exchange Admin Group.

 I went through MS's KB on doing this but for some reason when trying to
 finally remove the server from AD (via Exchange System Manager) I get the
 error message An invalid ADSI pathname was passed and Error ID c103fc97.
 MS KBs talk about the ability to remove the server thro ADSIedit. However
 when I look to do this the server is not shown in the list of Exchange
 Servers, even though the server name is still shown within Exchange System
 Manager.

 Any ideas on how to remove it from the Admin Group would be very welcome.



Free/busy question...

2009-07-01 Thread Alex Fontana
Exchange 2007 SP1, OLK 2003, 2007 and OWA

Have an availability address space of sub.domain.com with an access method
of public folder.  We have a recipient of type mailUser with an external
SMTP address of u...@sub.domain.com.  The free/busy data for this user is
perfectly visible from OLK2007 and OWA, but not from OLK2003.

Seems I'm missing something here...if the access method is public folder
aren't OLK (both versions) and OWA going to \non_ipm_subtree\schedule+ free
busy\EX:/O=org/OU=AG/cn=recipients/cn=user.eml for free/busy?  This users
legacyExchangeDN is /o=org/ou=ag/cn=recipients/cn=user

Thanks,
alex


RE: Listserv on Exchange

2009-07-01 Thread Alex Eckelberry
IMHO, just get a cheap Linux box and run Mailman (free and excellent).
Once people see how awesomely useful Listservs can be, you'll get
requests for more of them to be setup anyway.  
 
Alex
 



From: Derik Peek [mailto:dp...@sctelcofcu.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Listserv on Exchange



Quick Question...

We are trying to set up an internal listserv on our Exchange 2007
server.  It will be small (about 10 users) and it will be strictly
internal.  Is this possible through exchange without using any add-ons?
(or any expensive add-ons)  And if so can anyone point me in the right
direction as I have been searching for an answer to this for most of the
day.  Thank you

 

 

 

 

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Re: Major goof when migrating OAB to E2K7

2009-07-01 Thread Russ Patterson
Hi Alex - thanks for taking this on. BTW, the errors are from the 07 srvr
(in that server name in the eventID the 03 is the rack number and the 32 is
the row number)

We think the replicas were finished today after  update-OfflineAddressBook
and a Update-FileDistributionService were issued. A few hours after they
were issued, we saw the mailboxes we had been missing in the OAB. We've
created another test account to see if it appears during the regularly
scheduled OAB build at 5 am tomorrow. (Plus, we'll be checking for the event
I listed at the beginning of this thread.

I'll keep you posted. Again - Thanks! My next question may well be:
Shouldn't ADSIEdit show these two attributes as the same server? ::
offlineabserver sitefolderserver - one is still the old, E2k3 server that we
want to retire, and the other is set to the  troubled  E2k7 server we've
been talking about.

Russ



On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Alex Fontana afontana...@gmail.com wrote:

   Are the events below from the 03 or 07 server?

 You've set up replicas, but have they actually replicated over yet?  You
 can try checking via ESM if the '07 server has the instances of the OAB.

 On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Russ Patterson rus...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi  - I think I just made the biggest mistake I've ever done in Exchange.
 When I moved OAB generation from E2k3 to E2k7, I pointed to an E2k7 server
 that did not have a Public Folder store. Geesh.

 I've since created one, and used PFDAVAdmin to set up replication, but I'm
 still having lots of issues with the System Folders.

 Main issue is no OAB getting created with these two errors:

 Log Name:  Application
 Source:MSExchangeSA
 Date:  7/1/2009 10:14:53 AM
 Event ID:  9331
 Task Category: OAL Generator
 Level: Error
 Keywords:  Classic
 User:  N/A
 Computer:  CLTEXCH0332.ds1.ltcorp.tree
 Description:
 OALGen encountered error 80070005 (internal ID 50103b4) accessing the
 public folder store while generating the offline address list for address
 list '/'.
 - Default Offline Address List


 Log Name:  Application
 Source:MSExchangeSA
 Date:  7/1/2009 10:14:53 AM
 Event ID:  9335
 Task Category: OAL Generator
 Level: Error
 Keywords:  Classic
 User:  N/A
 Computer:  CLTEXCH0332.ds1.ltcorp.tree
 Description:
 OALGen encountered error 80070005 while cleaning the offline address list
 public folders under /o=LendingTree/cn=addrlists/cn=oabs/cn=Default Offline
 Address List.  Please make sure the public folder store is mounted and
 replicas exist of the offline address list folders.  No offline address
 lists have been generated.  Please check the event log for more information.

 - Default Offline Address List

 I've turned up logging for MSExchangeSA\OAL Generator to medium, those are
 the only errors given.

 Any suggestions? It's easy to dismount the PF store (which I've done,) but
 there are end-users mailboxes on this server, so I could only restart the IS
 at night. I also see that the siteFolderServer attribute in ADSIEdit still
 points to our E2k3 server.

 Help greatly appreciated.